NYSE:TUYA Tuya Q2 2023 Earnings Report $2.35 -0.05 (-1.88%) As of 12:51 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings History Tuya EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.03Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ATuya Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$57.00 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ATuya Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/23/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, August 23, 2023Conference Call Time8:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsTuya's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, May 19, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Tuya Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 23, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Okay. Good morning. Thank you. Hello, everyone. Welcome to our Q2 2023 Earnings call. Operator00:00:08Joining us today are Founder and CEO of Suya, Mr. Jerry Wang and our CFO, Mr. Jessie Liu. The Q2 2020 3 financial results and webcast of this conference call are available at ir.tuya.com. A replay of this call will also be available on our website in a few hours. Operator00:00:29Before we continue, I refer you to our safe harbor statement in our earnings press release, which applies to the score as we will make forward looking statements. With that, I will now turn the call to our Founder and CEO, Mr. Jerry Wang. Jerry will deliver his remarks in Chinese, which will be followed by corresponding English translations. Speaker 100:02:02The Q2 of 2023 marked a a significant milestone for NOS. For the first time in our company's history, we achieved a quarterly breakeven and recorded margin of around 2.7%. Moreover, we achieved the positive operational cash flow for the quarter, bringing in about $7,500,000 The moving to positive non GAAP profitability and the expansion of positive operating cash flow both marked the signifies our growing capacity to generate value and potential responsibility for any enterprise and these business operations. Undoubtedly, these accomplishments attest to the dedication of our team and the strategic operational adjustments implemented over the last 2 years. Each member of our organization has played a crucial role in this milestone. Speaker 100:03:07Going forward, we remain firmly committed to focusing on further refining our operations, both structurally and functionally, taking enhance efficiency and reduce costs. Our aim is to ensure consistent financial performance and progress towards achieving breakeven at the non GAAP operating level. In the Q2 of 2023, our total revenue reached approximately $57,000,000 representing a sequential growth of around 20%. This marks the 3rd consecutive quarter of sequential growth. Comparing year over year, there was an 8.9% decline in our total revenue. Speaker 100:05:02A factor in this was the currency fluctuation, particularly the weakening of the RMB against the U. S. Dollar, which accounted for around 5.6 percentage points of the year over year decline. Excluding the impact of the current currency fluctuations, our total revenue was close to flat year over year. It's worth noting that the resurgence in consumer demand has not yet reached its full potential and the cautious operating strategies adopted by downstream business during destocking cycle persists, thereby impacting this quarter's results. Speaker 100:05:39Our overall gross margin evolved to 46.7 percent. With Bingo's figure, the gross margin for IoT Pass climbed back to 44.2 percent. Meanwhile, thanks to the successful implementation of IoT device solution strategy, the gross margin of our smart device distribution segments drove gross to 23%. Our software and value added services maintained a steady gross margin of 74.5%. Of particular note, our cloud storage services have been consistently generating solid cash flows and stable revenues, marking this transition into a period of scalable growth. Speaker 100:06:40Regarding our corporate operational management, our non GAAP operating expenses for this quarter showed a sequential decrease, a testament to our stringent cost of bargaining across all departments. When we speak of efficiency, our revenue supported by Hatcom and gross profit supported by headcount reached historical highs in this Q2, following several quarters of continued improvement. Now let's dive into some business updates from the Q2. In terms of our business strategies, our focus remains on 3 key areas: executing our customer focused strategy, improving our IoT developer platform and continual product enhancement. The value of the Zuora IoT platform continues to be favored by top tier customers. Speaker 100:08:54In early June, we held a sign in ceremony in collaboration with our customer, Haier Group's new energy brand, Nahui New Energy Technology. Together, we aim to jointly develop smart devices for home energy management, including PV, storage, charging devices and the heat pumps and to establish a smart home energy management platform. We initiated services for a prominent company with a market cap close to RMB100 1,000,000,000 and the leading player in the electrical and home appliance industry. Toei will provide them with the residential energy storage EMS management system combined with the smart communication stick solution, we have secured a partnership with the leading Swedish retailer, whose distribution channel extensively cover the Nordic region and whose business focuses on DIY and home products. All smart home brands under their umbrella were utilized to our platform. Speaker 100:09:58Additionally, we have newly acquired a renowned global brand specializing in engineering joint products and irrigation equipment, which is also a subsidiary of a European listing leading company in engineering joint technology. They predominantly cover market in North America, Europe and Australia and have already made payment to commence preliminary preparation related to their IoT app in that Qub's smart private cloud product also continued to help us acquire top customers. We recently put an agreement with the subsidiary of a leading real estate estate conglomerate in Thailand, marking our 3rd private cloud collaboration in the country. 2o's growing presence and and the top real estate groups. The insights and experience garnered from our ventures in the Thai market will serve as the strategic roadmap for our expansion into other countries. Speaker 100:12:15As we continue to enhance the IoT developer experience, we are now also exploring opportunities and value beyond consumer electronics with developers and enterprises. For example, the energy saving sector with its practical and sustainable nature garnered a significant attention from global corporate customers. In light of this, we showcased the 2 hour residential PV Energy Storage solution at AWE. Additionally, these modular proficiencies have been seamlessly integrated into our SaaS offerings. A case in point is Tuya's SMB Bluetooth smashed lighting control solution, empowering more and medium sized business to easily achieve a green energy efficient indoor environment. Speaker 100:13:38Our smart device distribution business at the integral component of our software and hardware enrichment strategy as mainly originated from new customers we acquired since our strategic realignment in the middle of last year. The gross profit of this segment in Q2 was approximately 1.49 $1,000,000 marking a sequential growth of around 30.8 percent and a year over year increase of around 58.2 The overall gross margin was 23%. Our flagship product solutions such as big gateways and central control screens as part of the IoT solution model contributed to the healthy comprehensive smart device gross profit. Regarding our product lines, in Q2, the comprehensive revenue from our voice central control product line, we just did a year over year growth passing 50% with the smart device solution model seeing an impressive year over year surge of approximately industry standpoint, central control products act at the entrance for IoT interaction, possessing the capability to replace traditional panel switches in a variety of settings, indicating a dynamic and swift growth trajectory. 3rd boasts robust competitiveness in this sector. Speaker 100:16:01Our essential control product solution encompass a diverse area of operating systems, panel firmware. This also extends to software service feature like multimedia, visual intercom, gateway, communication protocols and integration with popular controller ICs, meeting the product requirements of mainstream brands worldwide. The door model of IoT Pass and Smart Device solution underpinned by our software and the hardware enhancement strategy has provided our customers with a broad spectrum of choices. For instance, KA customers can leverage the IoT PaaS model incorporating OS, cloud and app SDK in accordance with their unique business needs and organizational characteristics, enabling them to foster a more autonomous business development At the same time, some cross sector multinational corporations, self-service providers and integrators can choose smart device solution for a streamlined and appetite market entry, which in turn further drive the generation of software revenue. Our SaaS and other segment reported year over year revenue growth of 30.2% as Q2 revenue reached 9,400,000. Speaker 100:18:54Breaking this down to key products, as previously mentioned, our cloud storage value added services consistently demonstrated strong revenue characteristics. Amid the steady growth in device scale, these services have continuously delivered high quality revenues in the 1,000,000 of dollars level, more than doubling year over year. As for SaaS, sectors such as hotel, rental and the real estate achieved the moderate year over year growth despite the soft economic cycle. Conversely, commercial lighting falling within the broader light industry, which is the year over year decline attributable to microeconomic challenges. I also want to highlight another milestone we achieved in May 2023. Speaker 100:20:25Tuya officially became the world's only company to offer support for both vendor identification, the VID and non VID scoped product attestation authority, the PAA. Within the MatterFold stack solution, this allows us to sign product adaptation intermediates for BID to meet the requirements of any eligible alliance member. As a result, Tuya is capable of not only reducing the cost of matter device certification for developers, but also an honest and controllable authentication process, allowing developers to advertise their products come to market. Moreover, Duo can also provide comprehensive lifecycle management for PAA certification, enabling developers to focus on device development, while enjoying a similar experience. Overall, during Q2 and the first half of twenty twenty three, the consumer electronics segment continued to face the residential pressures of high inflation and the associated inventory implications. Speaker 100:22:21However, there are encouraging signs globally. For example, inflation rates in Europe and the United States have descended to their lowest level in over 2 years. Anticipated sales for several IoT smart device categories are trending towards positive year over year growth. Drawing from these external trends and our internal metrics, we believe that we have navigated through the toughest times and we expect to return to year over year round growth in the second half of the year. Our leaner and more streamlined operational structure also give us the confidence to pursue ongoing improvements in our financial performance. Speaker 100:23:01As we look ahead, we are looking forward to a future of sustained and steady growth. With that, I will now turn the call over to our CFO, Jesse, to provide everyone with a closer look at our financial performance. Speaker 200:23:20That concludes the remarks by Jerry. As I review our results, please note that all amounts are in U. S. Dollars and all comparisons are on a year over year basis unless otherwise stated. In the Q2 of 2023, our total revenue reached RMB 57 1,000,000 and our gross profit was RMB 26,600,000. Speaker 200:23:46Both metrics have shown sequential improvements over the past 3 consecutive quarters. However, both metrics recorded a decline on a year over year basis. When we excluded the impact of the depreciation of RMB against the USD, which now has an exchange rate surpassing 7.2, our revenue essentially remained stable compared to the same period last year, while our gross margin showed a 6% increase from the same period last year, considering the currency rates we anticipate facing ongoing challenges related to currency exchange in the Q3. Global consumer electronics sector is grappling with the pervasive impact of heightened inflation. However, our forward thinking and strategic interventions have yielded encouraging results. Speaker 200:24:41By adopting a customer focused strategy, our average revenue per customer increased sequentially. Additionally, we've recorded a significant the gross profit on a per employee basis and have noted a more equitable distribution in geography revenue contribution, fortifying our position against the market headwinds. Our blended gross margin for the 2nd quarter expanded to 46.7 percent from 42.8 percent, achieving a historically high level since our inception. I'd like to emphasize the gross margin is pivotal for the long term sustainable growth of the company, reflecting the value of our services and the products bring to customers and securing our profitability. This margin is a testament to our value proposition, the efficiency of our operations and our balanced approach between profitability and growth. Speaker 200:25:43Let's break down. In the Q2, our IoT PAS gross margin increased to 44.2 percent from 42.5% in the same period last year. This uplift contributed 1.2% points to the year over year expansion of our blended gross margin for the quarter and represented a significant rebound of 3.7 percentage points from the Q1. We are always confident in the value proposition of our IoT Pass products distinguished by our unique software capabilities, leading IoT functions as well as effective pricing strategies and management. However, given the macroeconomic downturn and inventory backlog leading to slow moving issues across many enterprises, our holding in IoT chips was not exempt from this pressure. Speaker 200:26:37To adjust this, we have refined our inventory management strategy, prudent control over chip inventory levels and strategic purchasing decisions. Furthermore, we've been guiding our customers in their IoT solution selections and when necessary utilizing specific pricing strategies to facilitate inventory reductions, therefore alleviating the financial impact of inventory allowance. In the Q2, we have effectively minimized the impact of these allowances. While it's essential to recognize that inventory management and potential write downs are dynamic areas influenced by market conditions, we remain confident in our ability to maintain them within reasonable levels. So overall, as our core business, we believe that IoT Pass will continue to be a stable and robust contributor to our profitability. Speaker 200:27:31The gross margin for our smart device distribution segment in the quarter reached 23%. This segment has evolved from initially facilitating customers in acquiring smart device quickly and easily and cost effectively to providing logistics value and support for clients with IoT solutions, aiding them in expanding product categories and penetrating new markets. In the Q2, the smart device distribution segment contributed 1.3% point to the year over year growth of our blended gross margin. Gross margin of our SaaS and Other segment was at 74.5% in the 2nd quarter, characterized by its diverse composition, including SaaS to BN2C value added services, apps and various customer developments and smart private cloud projects. Notably, as our cloud storage revenue continues to grow, its profit contribution has become even more significant, accounting for approximately 1.8% points of year over year growth of our blended gross margin in the quarter. Speaker 200:28:52The consistent financial this high value software value added services coupled with expansion of our device ecosystem further affirmed our strategic direction and confidence for the future. So I've just detailed profitability of our core business segments for the quarter. We believe that maintaining solid margins at the business segment level is crucial to ensuring the overall margin profit of our company. Moving on to our operating activities and related expenses. We are presenting our operating expenses on a non GAAP basis by excluding share based compensation expenses and the credit related impairment loss from our GAAP numbers. Speaker 200:29:34This credit related impairment losses stem from our strategic investments in certain IoT related private companies. Some of these companies have encountered operational difficulties after facing 2 years of headwinds, leading us to provision for impairments. However, this has no material impact on our operations and the business. Therefore, we've excluded from our GAAP numbers. We believe this provides better clarity on the trend of our operating expenses aligning with how our management team reviews our performance. Speaker 200:30:09In the Q2 of 2023, our non GAAP total operating expenses decreased by 32.7 percent to RMB33 1,000,000 from RMB49.1 million in the same period last year. I will break down our costs and expenses to provide additional clarity. Our employee related costs, excluding share based compensation, declined by 33.2% year over year in Q2 and the costs related to office and property leasing concurrently decreased by 51.6 percent. Combined, this cost represented about 75% of our total non GAAP operating expenses in Q2. Of now, our team size has been further streamlined to around 1500 employees. Speaker 200:30:55We continue to explore opportunities for further optimization in both our business and organizational structure. Marketing and promotion expenses decreased by 70.1% year over year, highlighting our commitment to budget control. Travel related expenses were nearly flat over year and decreased sequentially. Cloud infrastructure costs now remained at a stable level, flat year over year. Our team remains committed to striking a balance between driving innovation, enhancing our cloud platform and maintaining a large stable global operation system, all while focusing on our cost efficiency. Speaker 200:31:36Professional fee and the G and A expenses dropped by 23.4% from that of Q1, following our annual reporting activities in the U. S. And Hong Kong. Year over year professional fees were down 30.7% compared to the same quarter last year. We are pleased to report that these overheads are now consistently managed and well contained. Speaker 200:31:59The company remains dedicated to ensuring quality corporate compliance and professional services at a cost effective rate. Next on the income statement is the financial income section. During Q2, we generated approximately deposit interest income because of our conservative capital strategy. The income was recorded as our financial income for the quarter. We'll not elaborate on the remaining types of detailed expenses or income as they are not as significant to our overall financial performance. Speaker 200:32:34As a result of our consistent efforts over several quarters, our non GAAP net loss has been steadily narrowing in the past quarters. In Q2, we achieved profitability by reporting a non GAAP net profit of CNY1.5 million translating to a GAAP net profit margin of 2.7%. This transition from a loss to a profit is a significant milestone for us, with encouraging indications from our business evident from stable gross margins and our disciplined approach to expense management, we remain optimistic about sustaining and progressing our financial trajectory. Moving on to cash. As of June 30, 2023, our cash balance, comparison cash and cash equivalents as well as short term investment reached RMB942.3 million. Speaker 200:33:25This represents a slight increase from the end of Q1, primarily due to an expansion of operating cash flow of RMB7.5 million. While cash flow is nominally subject to fluctuations in working capital changes and payment terms, Our operating cash flow now stays at a much better level compared to a year ago. Furthermore, our financial position remains strong. Our accounts receivable turnover is less than a month with the majority of our business collaborations requiring prepayments from customers. Our liability to asset ratio has consistently remained at or below 10% since 2021 and we have always been free from any interest bearing liabilities or long term capital commitments. Speaker 200:34:12Finally, as articulated in Jerry's strategic outlook, we remain confident in the long term prospectus of our company. With that, operator, we are now ready to take questions. Thank you. Speaker 300:34:27Thank you. Our first question comes from Ying Liu of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:36:13In recent few months, we observed the export data in China is pretty weak. And I would like to ask based on 2 years communication with downstream, for example, the OEM based in China, how about their customers' demand outlook and whether it was also impacted by the weak export number? And the second question is customer inventory. We are happy to see that management expects the Q2 year on year revenue growth to turn positive. Is it due to the inventory digestion of the customer side is close to the end and they're about to restocking the trade? Speaker 400:37:04Thank you. Speaker 200:37:07Okay. Thank you for Liu Yang's question. About demand, to start with the conclusion, over the past few months, we actually observed an ongoing improvement in inflation in Europe and the U. S. The total sellout of IoT products for all our brand customers during the first half of this year showed a modest year over year growth. Speaker 200:37:32So despite we do noticed a recent export number weakness in China, we hold a cautiously optimistic view towards the future demand for under consumer IoT electronic products. And first from a macroeconomic perspective, there's been a notably easing inflation. As of July 2023, the inflation rate in the European Union has dropped to 5%, while the U. S. Has saw a slight rebound to 3.2% in July following a decrease to 3% in June. Speaker 200:38:09Since peaking in the mid to late last year, the decline has been pronounced, especially in the first half of this year. However, both from the CPI figures and core CPI indicators, most views suggest that the risks associated with inflation are not completely eliminated and the price of some consumer goods remain high, requiring continuous observation by companies in this sector. In China, after a first half year resurgence in travel related spending, retail sales of consumer goods in the middle of the year dropped to a lower single digit year over year growth rate, but stabilized in July. Regionally speaking, our perception is that the overall trend is similar across the regions, but with differences in details. For example, in the United States, even though the overall consumer electronics market was sluggish in Q2, there was still decent demand for home appliances followed by a relatively stable year over year growth for 60 products and an improving situation for electrical products. Speaker 200:39:21In Europe, primary countries remained a good rebound in consumer spending with the strong demand for energy efficiency related products. We've observed a strong resurgence in categories like gateway controls, safety sensors and some home appliances, electrical products. In China, based on official data, given the remaining spending on travel, tourism and the food during the first half of the year, Consumer electronics like cell phones exhibited weak performance. However, Echo in Europe, due to people's demand for safety and energy efficiency, certain categories stood out even amidst overall weak electronic demand. Other emerging global markets for smart products such as Southeast Asia, Middle East, Latin America have rebounded pretty well. Speaker 200:40:20However, the lighting segment continues to face substantial pressure as seen from the performance of leading global lighting companies that have reported their result. Overall, we believe the long term development trend for the IoT consumer electronics sector should be steady and consistent. Both enterprises and the consumers will continue to explore and focus on realizing the value of IoT. Against the backdrop as the world's leading IoT cloud platform with a high market value, the overall growth pattern should align with overall brands and the user sellout growth trend in the industry. And then come to the inventory question from Lioyang. Speaker 200:41:08By the middle of this year, we observed our downstream inventory has markedly improved and we expect it will return to a healthy level by the end of this year. At the end of last year, we devised a method to estimate downstream inventory levels by comparing the total IoT devices activation with our sales. This downstream includes OEMs, brands, retail channels and all other entities between us and the consumer. We previously anticipated that downstream inventory would continue to be digested throughout 2023 and by the end of this year. It would return to healthy levels same in 2019 to 2020. Speaker 200:41:55Current downstream inventory progress aligns with our expectations. Our recent surveys of top customers worldwide also indicate varying paces due to individual business plan or strategies. However, the general feedback suggests that inventory management has returned to a controllable state. 2 years ago, the consumer electronics supply chain built excessive inventory during 2 to 3 quarters due to chip shortages and the price hikes. This was followed by an almost 2 years inventory destocking cycle. Speaker 200:42:32We believe that moving forward, business on the value chain of consumer electronics will plan and trend and nearing the end of a 2 years inventory trend and nearing the end of a 2 years inventory destocking inventory cycle, we are confident that a lieu of 6 quarters, our revenue will show a year over year growth in the second half of the year. So this is my answer to the questions. Operator, can go to next question. Speaker 300:43:12Thank you. We now have our next question from Timothy Zhou of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:44:06Congrats on the strong results. I have two questions. One is on the gross margin trend into second half of this year as you already guided that the revenue will improve on a year on year basis. And secondly, it's regarding the 20 gigabyte AI topic. I do notice that I think you already lost certain products and shared service strategies a few months ago. Speaker 500:44:29Could management share further color on your thoughts on how to meet the generative AI demand and how that will impact your business model? Thank you. Speaker 200:44:39Okay. Thanks for Timothy's question. Firstly, let me address the question about gross margin. So beyond promising signals in revenue, we are particularly inspired by our gross margin. Since Q1 of 2019, our gross margin has consistently improved from initial 24% to almost 47% this quarter. Speaker 200:45:05Despite challenges like the pandemic, inflation and inventory issues. Several reasons contribute to this steady improvement of gross margin. Firstly, the proportion of high margin products in IoT PaaS business has been increasing. Secondly, the overall high margin SaaS sectors, the revenue contribution to the total revenue has been continuously grow reaching to about 16% in 2023 Q2. Lastly, the transformation of the business model the smart device distribution business has made pretty big improvement to the gross margin. Speaker 200:45:47That segment, the gross margin improved from about 10% to now 23%. Looking forward, our expectation, we are likely to maintain a steady gross margin. We are now also focused on the growth of the company. We are looking for new directions of growth and with some new business try out initially, usually we will make the gross margin more aggressive to attract new customers. So balance that, we expect a steady gross margin for the near future. Speaker 200:46:32And then come to Timo's second question about AI. In the midst of the AI boom during Q1 this year, we shared our insights the direction. We are optimistic about upgrades and efficiency that AI and AIGC can bring to IoT developers end users. Our perspective remains consistent and we are currently working on various AIGC related projects. Firstly, a common approach in IoT industry is the utilization of AI in customer services. Speaker 200:47:14We are leveraging AI to empower Twia's customer support, enabling more intelligent and flexible conversations with users, thereby providing more personalized and high quality services. Additionally, by training on TUYA's documentation, we can pinpoint end users user issues with more precision and automated responses and interactions. This not only enhances the user experiences, but also significantly boosts efficiency for end users, enterprise developers and the Tuya's internal R and D team. The second direction is to empower developers. For instance, Tuya's SaaS development framework now allows for the auto generation of general service codes based on described requirements, such as device inquiries, scenario inquiries. Speaker 200:48:06This ensures that developers when creating their IoT device management platforms or similar needs can significantly improve efficiency, reduce development costs and entry barriers and maintain code quality and the consistency. It enables developers to concentrate more on the development and innovation of business logic. The 3rd direction is AI assistant. We're not referring to speakers, but mobile apps or central control panels with interactive screens. This AI assistance enable end users to seamlessly set up and enjoy IoT scenario setting, bridging the gap between various fragmented intermediate links. Speaker 200:48:52For example, when a user says, how many analyze energy consumption from August 3 to 12, they can instantly view the corresponding analysis result on the AI assistant interface followed by personalized recommendations for energy saving or other usage scenarios and so forth. Besides the broader directions just mentioned, let's delve into a specific case related to enterprise level projects. We assisted clients in generating device management strategies using AI. Specifically, we begin by customer training several popular language models based on verticals, creating professionals models that understand device operation and energy saving requirements. Users can then state their needs such as maximum energy saving or utmost comfort in the model considering historical data predicts device usage under different strategies. Speaker 200:49:50It weighs that cost and impact of strategy implementation presenting users with several optimization options. The entire process eliminates the need for intricate parameter configurations and is carried out through interactive dialogues with the primary goal being to enhance user energy efficiency and comfort. Finally, it's crucial to emphasize that one of AIG's most notable features is to transformation of human machine interaction methods, whether the output results meet Speaker 400:50:24expectations, whether Speaker 200:50:24they are commercially viable and how cost ticket industry wide Speaker 300:50:50Our next question comes from Mingren Li of CICC. Please go ahead. Let me translate myself. Thanks for taking my questions. My first question is that what kind of projects in the past and which downstream scenario seems that you're saying will be more resilient to support our full year growth on your relatively weak demand? Speaker 300:51:52And my second question is that we see this quarter is the first time that you achieved breakeven profitability on non GAAP net income faster than our expectation. So could you please give us more color about the future trends of breakeven? Thanks. Speaker 200:52:16Okay. Thank you for the CICC's question. Let me first address the growth patterns of different categories. So differences in our different categories business are quite noticeable. Our performance aligns well with the trends highlighted earlier for each region. Speaker 200:52:38However, between Tuyas and the final consumer, the business operations and the decisions of downstream companies also play a significant role. So this quarter, our performance was significantly hampered by the lighting sector, but most non lighting sectors have already achieved a modest year over year growth. For example, the safety sensors sector this quarter has almost leveled year on year. This can be attributed to the fact that during a volatile period, the fundamental demand for safety and protection remains stable. Has shown year over year growth since the Q1 of last year, with an impressive growth exceeding 20% of this Q2 quarter. Speaker 200:53:26It's a very positive sign. Furthermore, we remain bullish on the renewable energy segment itself as well as the value generated from integrating renewable devices with other IoT home devices. While we're just starting, we believe we are among the global competitive enterprises when it comes to integrating home alliance IoT with new energy products. Our residential PV energy storage IoT solution displayed at AWE this year not only manage traditional household electricity consumption, but also visualizes real time energy flow from solar power generation, the energy storage batteries, distribution and the consumptions to electrical vehicle charging. It can optimize energy usage strategies and assist homeowners in managing household energy efficiently in especially like Europe, Australia. Speaker 200:54:28In terms of SaaS and other segments and end smart scenarios, we've discussed scenarios like cloud storage and intelligent business areas earlier. There are distinct differences in business models and products. For instance, software services addressing end user rigid demands have a more pronounced advantage. SaaS being a direct B2B offering is greatly influenced by corporate budget decisions and business development efforts. However, we remain resilient in this area. Speaker 200:55:03The pandemic disrupted our global promotion of SaaS offerings years ago. But as restrictions eased toward end of last year, we restarted our efforts, focusing mainly on China market and Southeast Asia regions. We have been making steady progress. In Thailand, we secured a project with real estate groups. Furthermore, replicating our benchmark projects in Spanish student apartments, we secured another project in the U. Speaker 200:55:30K. And now we go to the second question about the profitability. So we will continue to prioritize achieving a non GAAP operating breakeven as a TIGO, while maintaining quality business operations, we will explore new avenue for growth. Our main operation focuses include: first, we will rigorously maintain an efficient organizational scale and continue to seek areas for adjustments and optimization. 2nd, we will persistently identify methods to reduce cost and improve efficiency within our operations, including refining our business models. Speaker 200:56:17Thirdly, as we explore new growth directions, we will remain rational in our capital expenditure, always keeping an eye on the return on investments. So in summary, we are committed to pushing our top line revenue return to a growth trend. Furthermore, to but at the basis of sustain our gross profit margin. Furthermore, we aim to maintain or reduce non operating non GAAP operating expenses. We hope to achieve our non GAAP operating breakeven within the next few quarters. Speaker 200:57:01And we aim to maintain non GAAP net profit in the future. So that's all my answers. Thank you. Speaker 300:57:13Thank you. There are no additional questions at this time. I'll now hand back to the management team for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:57:21Okay. So thank you all again for joining our call. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact us or request through our IR website. We look forward to speaking with everyone in our next earnings calls. 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Sign up for Earnings360's daily newsletter to receive timely earnings updates on Tuya and other key companies, straight to your email. Email Address About TuyaTuya (NYSE:TUYA) offers purpose-built Internet of Things (IoT) cloud development platform in the People's Republic of China and internationally. The company provides platform-as-a-service that enables business, original equipment manufacturers, brands, and developers to develop, launch, manage, and monetize software-enabled smart devices and services; and industry software-as-a-service, which enables businesses to deploy, connect, and manage various types of smart devices. It also offers cloud-based software value-added services that provides end users with smart features, such as cloud storage; and Cube Smart Private Cloud Solution which enables conglomerates to build their own autonomous and controllable IoT platforms; and could-based services to businesses, developers, and end users to develop and manage IoT experiences. In addition, the company provides smart solutions for IoT devices that integrates software capabilities; and enables developers to activate an IoT ecosystem of brands, OEMs, partners, and end users to engage and communicate through a range of smart devices, as well as sells finished smart devices. It offers its solutions to smart home, smart business, renewable energy, education, agriculture, outdoors and sport, and entertainment industries. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Okay. Good morning. Thank you. Hello, everyone. Welcome to our Q2 2023 Earnings call. Operator00:00:08Joining us today are Founder and CEO of Suya, Mr. Jerry Wang and our CFO, Mr. Jessie Liu. The Q2 2020 3 financial results and webcast of this conference call are available at ir.tuya.com. A replay of this call will also be available on our website in a few hours. Operator00:00:29Before we continue, I refer you to our safe harbor statement in our earnings press release, which applies to the score as we will make forward looking statements. With that, I will now turn the call to our Founder and CEO, Mr. Jerry Wang. Jerry will deliver his remarks in Chinese, which will be followed by corresponding English translations. Speaker 100:02:02The Q2 of 2023 marked a a significant milestone for NOS. For the first time in our company's history, we achieved a quarterly breakeven and recorded margin of around 2.7%. Moreover, we achieved the positive operational cash flow for the quarter, bringing in about $7,500,000 The moving to positive non GAAP profitability and the expansion of positive operating cash flow both marked the signifies our growing capacity to generate value and potential responsibility for any enterprise and these business operations. Undoubtedly, these accomplishments attest to the dedication of our team and the strategic operational adjustments implemented over the last 2 years. Each member of our organization has played a crucial role in this milestone. Speaker 100:03:07Going forward, we remain firmly committed to focusing on further refining our operations, both structurally and functionally, taking enhance efficiency and reduce costs. Our aim is to ensure consistent financial performance and progress towards achieving breakeven at the non GAAP operating level. In the Q2 of 2023, our total revenue reached approximately $57,000,000 representing a sequential growth of around 20%. This marks the 3rd consecutive quarter of sequential growth. Comparing year over year, there was an 8.9% decline in our total revenue. Speaker 100:05:02A factor in this was the currency fluctuation, particularly the weakening of the RMB against the U. S. Dollar, which accounted for around 5.6 percentage points of the year over year decline. Excluding the impact of the current currency fluctuations, our total revenue was close to flat year over year. It's worth noting that the resurgence in consumer demand has not yet reached its full potential and the cautious operating strategies adopted by downstream business during destocking cycle persists, thereby impacting this quarter's results. Speaker 100:05:39Our overall gross margin evolved to 46.7 percent. With Bingo's figure, the gross margin for IoT Pass climbed back to 44.2 percent. Meanwhile, thanks to the successful implementation of IoT device solution strategy, the gross margin of our smart device distribution segments drove gross to 23%. Our software and value added services maintained a steady gross margin of 74.5%. Of particular note, our cloud storage services have been consistently generating solid cash flows and stable revenues, marking this transition into a period of scalable growth. Speaker 100:06:40Regarding our corporate operational management, our non GAAP operating expenses for this quarter showed a sequential decrease, a testament to our stringent cost of bargaining across all departments. When we speak of efficiency, our revenue supported by Hatcom and gross profit supported by headcount reached historical highs in this Q2, following several quarters of continued improvement. Now let's dive into some business updates from the Q2. In terms of our business strategies, our focus remains on 3 key areas: executing our customer focused strategy, improving our IoT developer platform and continual product enhancement. The value of the Zuora IoT platform continues to be favored by top tier customers. Speaker 100:08:54In early June, we held a sign in ceremony in collaboration with our customer, Haier Group's new energy brand, Nahui New Energy Technology. Together, we aim to jointly develop smart devices for home energy management, including PV, storage, charging devices and the heat pumps and to establish a smart home energy management platform. We initiated services for a prominent company with a market cap close to RMB100 1,000,000,000 and the leading player in the electrical and home appliance industry. Toei will provide them with the residential energy storage EMS management system combined with the smart communication stick solution, we have secured a partnership with the leading Swedish retailer, whose distribution channel extensively cover the Nordic region and whose business focuses on DIY and home products. All smart home brands under their umbrella were utilized to our platform. Speaker 100:09:58Additionally, we have newly acquired a renowned global brand specializing in engineering joint products and irrigation equipment, which is also a subsidiary of a European listing leading company in engineering joint technology. They predominantly cover market in North America, Europe and Australia and have already made payment to commence preliminary preparation related to their IoT app in that Qub's smart private cloud product also continued to help us acquire top customers. We recently put an agreement with the subsidiary of a leading real estate estate conglomerate in Thailand, marking our 3rd private cloud collaboration in the country. 2o's growing presence and and the top real estate groups. The insights and experience garnered from our ventures in the Thai market will serve as the strategic roadmap for our expansion into other countries. Speaker 100:12:15As we continue to enhance the IoT developer experience, we are now also exploring opportunities and value beyond consumer electronics with developers and enterprises. For example, the energy saving sector with its practical and sustainable nature garnered a significant attention from global corporate customers. In light of this, we showcased the 2 hour residential PV Energy Storage solution at AWE. Additionally, these modular proficiencies have been seamlessly integrated into our SaaS offerings. A case in point is Tuya's SMB Bluetooth smashed lighting control solution, empowering more and medium sized business to easily achieve a green energy efficient indoor environment. Speaker 100:13:38Our smart device distribution business at the integral component of our software and hardware enrichment strategy as mainly originated from new customers we acquired since our strategic realignment in the middle of last year. The gross profit of this segment in Q2 was approximately 1.49 $1,000,000 marking a sequential growth of around 30.8 percent and a year over year increase of around 58.2 The overall gross margin was 23%. Our flagship product solutions such as big gateways and central control screens as part of the IoT solution model contributed to the healthy comprehensive smart device gross profit. Regarding our product lines, in Q2, the comprehensive revenue from our voice central control product line, we just did a year over year growth passing 50% with the smart device solution model seeing an impressive year over year surge of approximately industry standpoint, central control products act at the entrance for IoT interaction, possessing the capability to replace traditional panel switches in a variety of settings, indicating a dynamic and swift growth trajectory. 3rd boasts robust competitiveness in this sector. Speaker 100:16:01Our essential control product solution encompass a diverse area of operating systems, panel firmware. This also extends to software service feature like multimedia, visual intercom, gateway, communication protocols and integration with popular controller ICs, meeting the product requirements of mainstream brands worldwide. The door model of IoT Pass and Smart Device solution underpinned by our software and the hardware enhancement strategy has provided our customers with a broad spectrum of choices. For instance, KA customers can leverage the IoT PaaS model incorporating OS, cloud and app SDK in accordance with their unique business needs and organizational characteristics, enabling them to foster a more autonomous business development At the same time, some cross sector multinational corporations, self-service providers and integrators can choose smart device solution for a streamlined and appetite market entry, which in turn further drive the generation of software revenue. Our SaaS and other segment reported year over year revenue growth of 30.2% as Q2 revenue reached 9,400,000. Speaker 100:18:54Breaking this down to key products, as previously mentioned, our cloud storage value added services consistently demonstrated strong revenue characteristics. Amid the steady growth in device scale, these services have continuously delivered high quality revenues in the 1,000,000 of dollars level, more than doubling year over year. As for SaaS, sectors such as hotel, rental and the real estate achieved the moderate year over year growth despite the soft economic cycle. Conversely, commercial lighting falling within the broader light industry, which is the year over year decline attributable to microeconomic challenges. I also want to highlight another milestone we achieved in May 2023. Speaker 100:20:25Tuya officially became the world's only company to offer support for both vendor identification, the VID and non VID scoped product attestation authority, the PAA. Within the MatterFold stack solution, this allows us to sign product adaptation intermediates for BID to meet the requirements of any eligible alliance member. As a result, Tuya is capable of not only reducing the cost of matter device certification for developers, but also an honest and controllable authentication process, allowing developers to advertise their products come to market. Moreover, Duo can also provide comprehensive lifecycle management for PAA certification, enabling developers to focus on device development, while enjoying a similar experience. Overall, during Q2 and the first half of twenty twenty three, the consumer electronics segment continued to face the residential pressures of high inflation and the associated inventory implications. Speaker 100:22:21However, there are encouraging signs globally. For example, inflation rates in Europe and the United States have descended to their lowest level in over 2 years. Anticipated sales for several IoT smart device categories are trending towards positive year over year growth. Drawing from these external trends and our internal metrics, we believe that we have navigated through the toughest times and we expect to return to year over year round growth in the second half of the year. Our leaner and more streamlined operational structure also give us the confidence to pursue ongoing improvements in our financial performance. Speaker 100:23:01As we look ahead, we are looking forward to a future of sustained and steady growth. With that, I will now turn the call over to our CFO, Jesse, to provide everyone with a closer look at our financial performance. Speaker 200:23:20That concludes the remarks by Jerry. As I review our results, please note that all amounts are in U. S. Dollars and all comparisons are on a year over year basis unless otherwise stated. In the Q2 of 2023, our total revenue reached RMB 57 1,000,000 and our gross profit was RMB 26,600,000. Speaker 200:23:46Both metrics have shown sequential improvements over the past 3 consecutive quarters. However, both metrics recorded a decline on a year over year basis. When we excluded the impact of the depreciation of RMB against the USD, which now has an exchange rate surpassing 7.2, our revenue essentially remained stable compared to the same period last year, while our gross margin showed a 6% increase from the same period last year, considering the currency rates we anticipate facing ongoing challenges related to currency exchange in the Q3. Global consumer electronics sector is grappling with the pervasive impact of heightened inflation. However, our forward thinking and strategic interventions have yielded encouraging results. Speaker 200:24:41By adopting a customer focused strategy, our average revenue per customer increased sequentially. Additionally, we've recorded a significant the gross profit on a per employee basis and have noted a more equitable distribution in geography revenue contribution, fortifying our position against the market headwinds. Our blended gross margin for the 2nd quarter expanded to 46.7 percent from 42.8 percent, achieving a historically high level since our inception. I'd like to emphasize the gross margin is pivotal for the long term sustainable growth of the company, reflecting the value of our services and the products bring to customers and securing our profitability. This margin is a testament to our value proposition, the efficiency of our operations and our balanced approach between profitability and growth. Speaker 200:25:43Let's break down. In the Q2, our IoT PAS gross margin increased to 44.2 percent from 42.5% in the same period last year. This uplift contributed 1.2% points to the year over year expansion of our blended gross margin for the quarter and represented a significant rebound of 3.7 percentage points from the Q1. We are always confident in the value proposition of our IoT Pass products distinguished by our unique software capabilities, leading IoT functions as well as effective pricing strategies and management. However, given the macroeconomic downturn and inventory backlog leading to slow moving issues across many enterprises, our holding in IoT chips was not exempt from this pressure. Speaker 200:26:37To adjust this, we have refined our inventory management strategy, prudent control over chip inventory levels and strategic purchasing decisions. Furthermore, we've been guiding our customers in their IoT solution selections and when necessary utilizing specific pricing strategies to facilitate inventory reductions, therefore alleviating the financial impact of inventory allowance. In the Q2, we have effectively minimized the impact of these allowances. While it's essential to recognize that inventory management and potential write downs are dynamic areas influenced by market conditions, we remain confident in our ability to maintain them within reasonable levels. So overall, as our core business, we believe that IoT Pass will continue to be a stable and robust contributor to our profitability. Speaker 200:27:31The gross margin for our smart device distribution segment in the quarter reached 23%. This segment has evolved from initially facilitating customers in acquiring smart device quickly and easily and cost effectively to providing logistics value and support for clients with IoT solutions, aiding them in expanding product categories and penetrating new markets. In the Q2, the smart device distribution segment contributed 1.3% point to the year over year growth of our blended gross margin. Gross margin of our SaaS and Other segment was at 74.5% in the 2nd quarter, characterized by its diverse composition, including SaaS to BN2C value added services, apps and various customer developments and smart private cloud projects. Notably, as our cloud storage revenue continues to grow, its profit contribution has become even more significant, accounting for approximately 1.8% points of year over year growth of our blended gross margin in the quarter. Speaker 200:28:52The consistent financial this high value software value added services coupled with expansion of our device ecosystem further affirmed our strategic direction and confidence for the future. So I've just detailed profitability of our core business segments for the quarter. We believe that maintaining solid margins at the business segment level is crucial to ensuring the overall margin profit of our company. Moving on to our operating activities and related expenses. We are presenting our operating expenses on a non GAAP basis by excluding share based compensation expenses and the credit related impairment loss from our GAAP numbers. Speaker 200:29:34This credit related impairment losses stem from our strategic investments in certain IoT related private companies. Some of these companies have encountered operational difficulties after facing 2 years of headwinds, leading us to provision for impairments. However, this has no material impact on our operations and the business. Therefore, we've excluded from our GAAP numbers. We believe this provides better clarity on the trend of our operating expenses aligning with how our management team reviews our performance. Speaker 200:30:09In the Q2 of 2023, our non GAAP total operating expenses decreased by 32.7 percent to RMB33 1,000,000 from RMB49.1 million in the same period last year. I will break down our costs and expenses to provide additional clarity. Our employee related costs, excluding share based compensation, declined by 33.2% year over year in Q2 and the costs related to office and property leasing concurrently decreased by 51.6 percent. Combined, this cost represented about 75% of our total non GAAP operating expenses in Q2. Of now, our team size has been further streamlined to around 1500 employees. Speaker 200:30:55We continue to explore opportunities for further optimization in both our business and organizational structure. Marketing and promotion expenses decreased by 70.1% year over year, highlighting our commitment to budget control. Travel related expenses were nearly flat over year and decreased sequentially. Cloud infrastructure costs now remained at a stable level, flat year over year. Our team remains committed to striking a balance between driving innovation, enhancing our cloud platform and maintaining a large stable global operation system, all while focusing on our cost efficiency. Speaker 200:31:36Professional fee and the G and A expenses dropped by 23.4% from that of Q1, following our annual reporting activities in the U. S. And Hong Kong. Year over year professional fees were down 30.7% compared to the same quarter last year. We are pleased to report that these overheads are now consistently managed and well contained. Speaker 200:31:59The company remains dedicated to ensuring quality corporate compliance and professional services at a cost effective rate. Next on the income statement is the financial income section. During Q2, we generated approximately deposit interest income because of our conservative capital strategy. The income was recorded as our financial income for the quarter. We'll not elaborate on the remaining types of detailed expenses or income as they are not as significant to our overall financial performance. Speaker 200:32:34As a result of our consistent efforts over several quarters, our non GAAP net loss has been steadily narrowing in the past quarters. In Q2, we achieved profitability by reporting a non GAAP net profit of CNY1.5 million translating to a GAAP net profit margin of 2.7%. This transition from a loss to a profit is a significant milestone for us, with encouraging indications from our business evident from stable gross margins and our disciplined approach to expense management, we remain optimistic about sustaining and progressing our financial trajectory. Moving on to cash. As of June 30, 2023, our cash balance, comparison cash and cash equivalents as well as short term investment reached RMB942.3 million. Speaker 200:33:25This represents a slight increase from the end of Q1, primarily due to an expansion of operating cash flow of RMB7.5 million. While cash flow is nominally subject to fluctuations in working capital changes and payment terms, Our operating cash flow now stays at a much better level compared to a year ago. Furthermore, our financial position remains strong. Our accounts receivable turnover is less than a month with the majority of our business collaborations requiring prepayments from customers. Our liability to asset ratio has consistently remained at or below 10% since 2021 and we have always been free from any interest bearing liabilities or long term capital commitments. Speaker 200:34:12Finally, as articulated in Jerry's strategic outlook, we remain confident in the long term prospectus of our company. With that, operator, we are now ready to take questions. Thank you. Speaker 300:34:27Thank you. Our first question comes from Ying Liu of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:36:13In recent few months, we observed the export data in China is pretty weak. And I would like to ask based on 2 years communication with downstream, for example, the OEM based in China, how about their customers' demand outlook and whether it was also impacted by the weak export number? And the second question is customer inventory. We are happy to see that management expects the Q2 year on year revenue growth to turn positive. Is it due to the inventory digestion of the customer side is close to the end and they're about to restocking the trade? Speaker 400:37:04Thank you. Speaker 200:37:07Okay. Thank you for Liu Yang's question. About demand, to start with the conclusion, over the past few months, we actually observed an ongoing improvement in inflation in Europe and the U. S. The total sellout of IoT products for all our brand customers during the first half of this year showed a modest year over year growth. Speaker 200:37:32So despite we do noticed a recent export number weakness in China, we hold a cautiously optimistic view towards the future demand for under consumer IoT electronic products. And first from a macroeconomic perspective, there's been a notably easing inflation. As of July 2023, the inflation rate in the European Union has dropped to 5%, while the U. S. Has saw a slight rebound to 3.2% in July following a decrease to 3% in June. Speaker 200:38:09Since peaking in the mid to late last year, the decline has been pronounced, especially in the first half of this year. However, both from the CPI figures and core CPI indicators, most views suggest that the risks associated with inflation are not completely eliminated and the price of some consumer goods remain high, requiring continuous observation by companies in this sector. In China, after a first half year resurgence in travel related spending, retail sales of consumer goods in the middle of the year dropped to a lower single digit year over year growth rate, but stabilized in July. Regionally speaking, our perception is that the overall trend is similar across the regions, but with differences in details. For example, in the United States, even though the overall consumer electronics market was sluggish in Q2, there was still decent demand for home appliances followed by a relatively stable year over year growth for 60 products and an improving situation for electrical products. Speaker 200:39:21In Europe, primary countries remained a good rebound in consumer spending with the strong demand for energy efficiency related products. We've observed a strong resurgence in categories like gateway controls, safety sensors and some home appliances, electrical products. In China, based on official data, given the remaining spending on travel, tourism and the food during the first half of the year, Consumer electronics like cell phones exhibited weak performance. However, Echo in Europe, due to people's demand for safety and energy efficiency, certain categories stood out even amidst overall weak electronic demand. Other emerging global markets for smart products such as Southeast Asia, Middle East, Latin America have rebounded pretty well. Speaker 200:40:20However, the lighting segment continues to face substantial pressure as seen from the performance of leading global lighting companies that have reported their result. Overall, we believe the long term development trend for the IoT consumer electronics sector should be steady and consistent. Both enterprises and the consumers will continue to explore and focus on realizing the value of IoT. Against the backdrop as the world's leading IoT cloud platform with a high market value, the overall growth pattern should align with overall brands and the user sellout growth trend in the industry. And then come to the inventory question from Lioyang. Speaker 200:41:08By the middle of this year, we observed our downstream inventory has markedly improved and we expect it will return to a healthy level by the end of this year. At the end of last year, we devised a method to estimate downstream inventory levels by comparing the total IoT devices activation with our sales. This downstream includes OEMs, brands, retail channels and all other entities between us and the consumer. We previously anticipated that downstream inventory would continue to be digested throughout 2023 and by the end of this year. It would return to healthy levels same in 2019 to 2020. Speaker 200:41:55Current downstream inventory progress aligns with our expectations. Our recent surveys of top customers worldwide also indicate varying paces due to individual business plan or strategies. However, the general feedback suggests that inventory management has returned to a controllable state. 2 years ago, the consumer electronics supply chain built excessive inventory during 2 to 3 quarters due to chip shortages and the price hikes. This was followed by an almost 2 years inventory destocking cycle. Speaker 200:42:32We believe that moving forward, business on the value chain of consumer electronics will plan and trend and nearing the end of a 2 years inventory trend and nearing the end of a 2 years inventory destocking inventory cycle, we are confident that a lieu of 6 quarters, our revenue will show a year over year growth in the second half of the year. So this is my answer to the questions. Operator, can go to next question. Speaker 300:43:12Thank you. We now have our next question from Timothy Zhou of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:44:06Congrats on the strong results. I have two questions. One is on the gross margin trend into second half of this year as you already guided that the revenue will improve on a year on year basis. And secondly, it's regarding the 20 gigabyte AI topic. I do notice that I think you already lost certain products and shared service strategies a few months ago. Speaker 500:44:29Could management share further color on your thoughts on how to meet the generative AI demand and how that will impact your business model? Thank you. Speaker 200:44:39Okay. Thanks for Timothy's question. Firstly, let me address the question about gross margin. So beyond promising signals in revenue, we are particularly inspired by our gross margin. Since Q1 of 2019, our gross margin has consistently improved from initial 24% to almost 47% this quarter. Speaker 200:45:05Despite challenges like the pandemic, inflation and inventory issues. Several reasons contribute to this steady improvement of gross margin. Firstly, the proportion of high margin products in IoT PaaS business has been increasing. Secondly, the overall high margin SaaS sectors, the revenue contribution to the total revenue has been continuously grow reaching to about 16% in 2023 Q2. Lastly, the transformation of the business model the smart device distribution business has made pretty big improvement to the gross margin. Speaker 200:45:47That segment, the gross margin improved from about 10% to now 23%. Looking forward, our expectation, we are likely to maintain a steady gross margin. We are now also focused on the growth of the company. We are looking for new directions of growth and with some new business try out initially, usually we will make the gross margin more aggressive to attract new customers. So balance that, we expect a steady gross margin for the near future. Speaker 200:46:32And then come to Timo's second question about AI. In the midst of the AI boom during Q1 this year, we shared our insights the direction. We are optimistic about upgrades and efficiency that AI and AIGC can bring to IoT developers end users. Our perspective remains consistent and we are currently working on various AIGC related projects. Firstly, a common approach in IoT industry is the utilization of AI in customer services. Speaker 200:47:14We are leveraging AI to empower Twia's customer support, enabling more intelligent and flexible conversations with users, thereby providing more personalized and high quality services. Additionally, by training on TUYA's documentation, we can pinpoint end users user issues with more precision and automated responses and interactions. This not only enhances the user experiences, but also significantly boosts efficiency for end users, enterprise developers and the Tuya's internal R and D team. The second direction is to empower developers. For instance, Tuya's SaaS development framework now allows for the auto generation of general service codes based on described requirements, such as device inquiries, scenario inquiries. Speaker 200:48:06This ensures that developers when creating their IoT device management platforms or similar needs can significantly improve efficiency, reduce development costs and entry barriers and maintain code quality and the consistency. It enables developers to concentrate more on the development and innovation of business logic. The 3rd direction is AI assistant. We're not referring to speakers, but mobile apps or central control panels with interactive screens. This AI assistance enable end users to seamlessly set up and enjoy IoT scenario setting, bridging the gap between various fragmented intermediate links. Speaker 200:48:52For example, when a user says, how many analyze energy consumption from August 3 to 12, they can instantly view the corresponding analysis result on the AI assistant interface followed by personalized recommendations for energy saving or other usage scenarios and so forth. Besides the broader directions just mentioned, let's delve into a specific case related to enterprise level projects. We assisted clients in generating device management strategies using AI. Specifically, we begin by customer training several popular language models based on verticals, creating professionals models that understand device operation and energy saving requirements. Users can then state their needs such as maximum energy saving or utmost comfort in the model considering historical data predicts device usage under different strategies. Speaker 200:49:50It weighs that cost and impact of strategy implementation presenting users with several optimization options. The entire process eliminates the need for intricate parameter configurations and is carried out through interactive dialogues with the primary goal being to enhance user energy efficiency and comfort. Finally, it's crucial to emphasize that one of AIG's most notable features is to transformation of human machine interaction methods, whether the output results meet Speaker 400:50:24expectations, whether Speaker 200:50:24they are commercially viable and how cost ticket industry wide Speaker 300:50:50Our next question comes from Mingren Li of CICC. Please go ahead. Let me translate myself. Thanks for taking my questions. My first question is that what kind of projects in the past and which downstream scenario seems that you're saying will be more resilient to support our full year growth on your relatively weak demand? Speaker 300:51:52And my second question is that we see this quarter is the first time that you achieved breakeven profitability on non GAAP net income faster than our expectation. So could you please give us more color about the future trends of breakeven? Thanks. Speaker 200:52:16Okay. Thank you for the CICC's question. Let me first address the growth patterns of different categories. So differences in our different categories business are quite noticeable. Our performance aligns well with the trends highlighted earlier for each region. Speaker 200:52:38However, between Tuyas and the final consumer, the business operations and the decisions of downstream companies also play a significant role. So this quarter, our performance was significantly hampered by the lighting sector, but most non lighting sectors have already achieved a modest year over year growth. For example, the safety sensors sector this quarter has almost leveled year on year. This can be attributed to the fact that during a volatile period, the fundamental demand for safety and protection remains stable. Has shown year over year growth since the Q1 of last year, with an impressive growth exceeding 20% of this Q2 quarter. Speaker 200:53:26It's a very positive sign. Furthermore, we remain bullish on the renewable energy segment itself as well as the value generated from integrating renewable devices with other IoT home devices. While we're just starting, we believe we are among the global competitive enterprises when it comes to integrating home alliance IoT with new energy products. Our residential PV energy storage IoT solution displayed at AWE this year not only manage traditional household electricity consumption, but also visualizes real time energy flow from solar power generation, the energy storage batteries, distribution and the consumptions to electrical vehicle charging. It can optimize energy usage strategies and assist homeowners in managing household energy efficiently in especially like Europe, Australia. Speaker 200:54:28In terms of SaaS and other segments and end smart scenarios, we've discussed scenarios like cloud storage and intelligent business areas earlier. There are distinct differences in business models and products. For instance, software services addressing end user rigid demands have a more pronounced advantage. SaaS being a direct B2B offering is greatly influenced by corporate budget decisions and business development efforts. However, we remain resilient in this area. Speaker 200:55:03The pandemic disrupted our global promotion of SaaS offerings years ago. But as restrictions eased toward end of last year, we restarted our efforts, focusing mainly on China market and Southeast Asia regions. We have been making steady progress. In Thailand, we secured a project with real estate groups. Furthermore, replicating our benchmark projects in Spanish student apartments, we secured another project in the U. Speaker 200:55:30K. And now we go to the second question about the profitability. So we will continue to prioritize achieving a non GAAP operating breakeven as a TIGO, while maintaining quality business operations, we will explore new avenue for growth. Our main operation focuses include: first, we will rigorously maintain an efficient organizational scale and continue to seek areas for adjustments and optimization. 2nd, we will persistently identify methods to reduce cost and improve efficiency within our operations, including refining our business models. Speaker 200:56:17Thirdly, as we explore new growth directions, we will remain rational in our capital expenditure, always keeping an eye on the return on investments. So in summary, we are committed to pushing our top line revenue return to a growth trend. Furthermore, to but at the basis of sustain our gross profit margin. Furthermore, we aim to maintain or reduce non operating non GAAP operating expenses. We hope to achieve our non GAAP operating breakeven within the next few quarters. Speaker 200:57:01And we aim to maintain non GAAP net profit in the future. So that's all my answers. Thank you. Speaker 300:57:13Thank you. There are no additional questions at this time. I'll now hand back to the management team for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:57:21Okay. So thank you all again for joining our call. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact us or request through our IR website. We look forward to speaking with everyone in our next earnings calls. Have a good day.Read morePowered by