NYSE:ATO Atmos Energy Q3 2023 Earnings Report $162.13 +0.73 (+0.45%) Closing price 05/6/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$161.91 -0.22 (-0.13%) As of 05/6/2025 07:20 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Atmos Energy EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.94Consensus EPS $0.97Beat/MissMissed by -$0.03One Year Ago EPS$0.92Atmos Energy Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$662.73 millionExpected Revenue$959.54 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$296.81 millionYoY Revenue Growth-18.80%Atmos Energy Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date8/3/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 3, 2023Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsAtmos Energy's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, May 8, 2025 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Atmos Energy Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 3, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Aaron, and I will be your conference operator for today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Atmos Energy Corporation Fiscal Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. There will be a question and answer session. Followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Operator00:00:33Thank you. Quarter. I would now like to turn our call over to Dan Mazir. Dan, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:39Great. Thank you, Aaron. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our fiscal 2023 Q3 earnings call. With me today are Kevin Akers, President and Chief Executive Officer and Chris Forsythe, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings release and conference call slide presentation, which we will reference in our prepared remarks, 13 are available at atmosenergy.com under the Investor Relations tab. Speaker 100:01:07As we review these financial results and discuss future expectations, quarter. Please keep in mind that some of our discussion might contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act and the Securities Exchange Act. Quarter. Our forward looking statements and projections could differ materially from actual results. The factors that could cause us material differences are outlined on Slide 34 and are more fully described in our SEC filings. Speaker 100:01:35With that, I will turn the call over to Chris Forsyth, our 13 year, Vice President and CFO. Chris? Thank you, Dan, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us and your interest in Natas Energy. Quarter. Speaker 100:01:46Yesterday, we announced fiscal year to date diluted earnings per share of $5.33 compared to $5.12 per diluted share in the prior year period. Quarter fiscal year to date financial results were in line with our expectations and continue to be driven by 3 key themes: regulatory outcomes reflecting increased safety and reliability spending, continued strong customer growth and higher O and M spending. 2022 and 2023 regulatory outcomes in both of our segments increased operating income by approximately $204,000,000 and higher consumption, residential customer growth and rising industrial load in our distribution segment increased operating income by an additional $27,000,000 quarter. These increases were partially offset by $70,000,000 increase in consolidated O and M. Year to date, distribution O and M increased $48,000,000 or 12.6 percent. Speaker 100:02:39However, during the 3rd fiscal quarter, the rate of O and M increase in this segment moderated somewhat with O and M quarter, increasing approximately 3.5 percent quarter over quarter. The higher level of O and M spending continues to be largely driven by higher levels of service orders to support our growing service territory, primarily in Texas. Fiscal year to date, we experienced an 8% increase in the number of line locations in Texas quarter. And we continue to see higher labor costs for these 3rd party services. Additionally, service orders increased 10%, largely driven by customer growth increase in customer collection activities. Speaker 100:03:15The remaining $22,000,000 in fiscal year to date increase in consolidated O and M incurred in our pipeline and storage segment, quarter primarily driven by the timing of inbound inspection work for this segment. In the prior fiscal year, most of that work was concentrated in 4th quarter. Quarter. In this fiscal year, this work was incurred more ratably throughout the fiscal year. Consolidated capital spending increased 21% or $358,000,000 $2,100,000,000 with 86% dedicated to improving the safety and reliability of our system. Speaker 100:03:46This increase primarily reflects higher spending at APT for our Line S2 2 in line PC projects designed to enhance the safety, reliability, versatility and supply diversification of our system. Quarter. Our distribution segment has increased due to higher safety and reliability spending and higher spending to support customer growth. During our 3rd fiscal quarter, we implemented $122,000,000 in annualized regulatory outcomes. Quarter. Speaker 100:04:13Year to date, we have now completed $263,000,000 in annualized regulatory outcomes and we currently have an additional $263,000,000 in annualized quarter in progress, including $107,000,000 related to our APT general rate case that we filed in May of this year. Quarter. We currently expect to finalize that case in December of 2023. Our financial position continues to remain strong. We finished our 3rd fiscal quarter with an equity capitalization of 61.8 percent and approximately $3,100,000,000 of liquidity. Speaker 100:04:45Quarter. This amount includes $590,000,000 of net proceeds available under existing forward sale agreements that will fully satisfy our anticipated fiscal 'twenty three equity needs and a significant portion of our anticipated fiscal 2024 needs. Additionally, during our 3rd fiscal quarter, we completed our $95,000,000 securitization process in Kansas quarter and began including securitization charge on customer bills effective July 1. As I previously mentioned, our Q3 fiscal year to date results quarter in line with our expectations, which gives us the confidence to reaffirm our fiscal 'twenty three guidance in the range of $6 to $6.10 quarter. Additionally, we now expect capital spending to approximately $2,800,000,000 largely reflecting higher spending for system expansion in our distribution segment. Speaker 100:05:30Quarter. Thank you for your time today. And I will turn the call over to Kevin for his update and some closing remarks. Kevin? Speaker 200:05:36Thank you, Chris. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Quarter. Our fiscal year performance reflects the continued dedication of our 4,800 Atmos Energy employees in executing our proven safety and reliability investment strategy. Through their commitment, focus and effort, we are modernizing our natural gas distribution, transmission and storage systems, quarter, while safely providing reliable natural gas service to our 3,400,000 customers in 1400 communities across our 8 states. Speaker 200:06:08We continue to experience strong customer growth driven by robust employment trend, particularly in Texas. For the 12 months ended June 30, quarter. We added nearly 64,000 new customers with just over 48,000 of those new customers located here in Texas. Quarter. And according to the Texas Workforce Commission, the state continued its streak of record employment. Speaker 200:06:32For the 12 months ended May 31, quarter. The number of employed reached a new record high at nearly 14,400,000, leading the country in number and percentage of jobs added. Quarter. Additionally, according to a study by Site Selection Group, the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex is projected to add 1,000,000 people by 2028 to reach nearly 8,500,000 people here in the metro play. Industrial demand for natural gas in our service territories also remains strong. Speaker 200:07:06During the Q3, we added 10 new industrial customers with an anticipated annual load of approximately 8 Bcf once they are fully operational. Fiscal year to date, we've added 41 new industrial customers with an anticipated annual load of approximately 16 Bcf quarter once they are fully operational. On a volumetric basis, that 16 Bcf of anticipated low is equivalent to adding nearly 294,000 residential customers. Finally, we continued our outreach efforts to energy 3rd. During the 1st 9 months of the fiscal year, our customer advocacy team and customer support agents quarter. Speaker 200:08:00Our continued focus on long term sustainability combined with executing our proven investment, regulatory and financing strategy has us positioned well for another successful year in fiscal 2023 and reflects the vital role we play in every community providing safe, reliable and efficient natural gas service to homes, businesses and industries to fuel our energy needs now and in the future. We appreciate your time this morning and we'll now open the call to questions. Operator00:08:513rd. And our first question is going to come from the line of Richard Sunderland with JPMorgan. Richard, please go ahead. Speaker 300:08:59Hi, good morning. Can you hear me? Speaker 100:09:01Quarter. Yes, good morning. Go ahead. Speaker 300:09:03Great. Thank you. Starting with the O and M trends, can you speak to the year to date trends relative to the implied 4Q outlook here. There's certainly a pretty stark reversal kind of embedded in the numbers. I know you referenced inspection work, but just curious if there are other timing factors at play. Speaker 300:09:20Also if you've done work to derisk 24 and that's part of the outlook for the balance of the year as well. Speaker 100:09:27Yes. Thank you, Rich. We'll start with 2023. Again, a lot of the timing is related to the APT and line inspection work that I referenced just a couple of minutes ago. Quarter. Speaker 100:09:37And we again, more of that work was ratable this year in the first half of the year the fiscal year primarily compared to last year, it was more concentrated in the 4th quarter. As we look forward into fiscal 2024, we're still pulling together that 5 year plan, but we are looking for opportunities to derisk that a little bit in terms of particularly in the distribution side, looking at how we might approach line low case, the strategy there, as well as just trying to lock in some longer term contracts and some of our service contracts that are 3rd party by design. And so those are some things that we're looking at to try to mitigate some increases going forward. Speaker 300:10:16Got it. Very helpful color there. And then shifting to the APT rate case, curious on the early thoughts on stakeholder engagement, what you're hearing locally. What is the timing for settlement discussions just procedurally in that case and any expectations around your ability to reach the settlement? Speaker 200:10:36Yes, Richard, this is Kevin. I'll start out. We're right on pace with the procedural schedule as it's outlined there. We're still continuing to get data requests. We're responding to those. Speaker 200:10:48So at this point, if you look at the procedural schedule, we feel like we're on track To get an order sometime toward the end of the calendar year in that December timeframe. Speaker 300:11:01And then just high level thoughts on ability to reach a settlement here. Is that something that's embedded in the plan? Anything you could say on that front would be helpful. Speaker 200:11:10No, again, we're still continuing to answer questions at this point. We'll see how we progress over the next few weeks or so. But at this point, again, I think we're on track with the outline procedural schedule. Speaker 300:11:23Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you for the time today. Speaker 100:11:26Thank you. Thank you. Operator00:11:55Quarter. Our next question is from Ryan Levine with Citi. Ryan, please go ahead. Speaker 400:12:03Quarter. Hi, everybody. I guess a couple on O and M costs. I appreciate the comments already made. But as we on a go forward basis, Should we be expecting the seasonality of operating costs to be more like this year or prior years? Speaker 400:12:203rd? And kind of what's driving some of the change in cadence? Speaker 200:12:26Yes. Ryan, I I think as you think about on a go forward, we certainly had anticipated going into 2023 some of the inflationary costs. We knew we were going to have some growth, Which if you look at the O and M was driven on a line locating as Chris mentioned before. I would certainly anticipate that to continue. So I think we've got a good outlook on that now on where we stand on number of low case, type of other O and M expenses, As Chris said, as we move to finalize our 2024 plan and look forward from there. Speaker 100:13:00Yes. The other thing too, Ron, I'll add is that a lot of this timing is Just based upon the availability of the contractors to do the work. So we kind of talked about a little bit with the APT work last year. We've done a lot of work in the Q4 because contractors are on-site. They are working with us. Speaker 100:13:16We decided to go ahead and move into the 1st and second quarter since they were already engaged bus rather than releasing them and have them come back 6 months later. So we also have to just work around the needs of the system, the timing of the system. It depends on what we might be doing construction work on certain segments of the system, which could influence timing. I've also referenced service orders. A lot of those are difficult to forecast, but service orders generally related to particularly this last year, more Calling into the customer contact center because of high bills, given the higher prices we experienced back in the winter heating season, difficult to predict that that will reoccur in the first quarter, as well as just some of our disconnection activities. Speaker 100:14:00But that's why we managed to a full fiscal year in terms of guidance, Yes, because some of those operating conditions are difficult to predict and we're just responding to the needs of the business with an eye towards accomplishing our fiscal year earnings per share targets. Speaker 200:14:17Yes. And I think that's the other point, Ryan, here. As our communities, as you've heard us say, are growing, expanding out, Where we're working with them on timing of their projects, whether their infrastructure projects are occurring water, sewer, you have fiber optic projects out there, you've got road Relocations, new road construction, that sort of thing going on. So some of this does cycle throughout the full fiscal year period. Speaker 400:14:43And how much is this change in seasonality of costs is to that was embedded in that response Is really related to the spiking gas prices during this most recent winter as opposed to some of the other drivers that you highlighted? Speaker 200:15:03Yes. I don't know that I would make that kind of direct correlation. I think what Chris was alluding to some orders for reREIT that sort of thing based on bills, but I don't think it's a meaningful percentage Of the rest of the overall operational O and M per se. Speaker 400:15:23Okay. And then one, I noticed in 3rd. Your guidance for the year, you're approaching year end, at least your fiscal year end and the effective tax rate this year is supposed to be higher than last year. Is that from a longer term planning perspective, are you anticipating that the current effective tax rate is appropriate for future time periods or any color you could share on how you're thinking about your tax position? Speaker 100:15:53Yes, Ryan. The effective tax rate that you 13%. Is roughly 11%. That's heavily influenced by the excess of the refund of excess deferred tax liabilities from the TCJA. We're amortizing those over a 3 to 5 year period. Speaker 100:16:08So that's why we've included in our deck, kind of the marginal effective tax rate of roughly 22.5% to 23.5%, so that you have an idea of really what true tax impacts are If you're modeling your O and M or other types of expenses or revenues, but we do anticipate the GAAP effective tax rate to increase as the excess deferred taxes wind down here over the next couple of years and revert back to that more traditional 22% to 23.5%. Speaker 400:16:38Okay, great. Thank Operator00:17:10quarter. And at this point, it does look like we are good on the questions. Dan, would you like me to turn it back over to you for closing remarks? Speaker 100:17:20Quarter. Sure. We appreciate your interest in Atmos Energy and thank you for joining us. A recording of this call is available for replay on our website through September 30th. Have a great day. Speaker 100:17:33Thanks. Operator00:17:34Quarter. Thank you, Dan. And ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's call. 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There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Aaron, and I will be your conference operator for today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Atmos Energy Corporation Fiscal Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. There will be a question and answer session. Followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Operator00:00:33Thank you. Quarter. I would now like to turn our call over to Dan Mazir. Dan, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:39Great. Thank you, Aaron. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our fiscal 2023 Q3 earnings call. With me today are Kevin Akers, President and Chief Executive Officer and Chris Forsythe, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings release and conference call slide presentation, which we will reference in our prepared remarks, 13 are available at atmosenergy.com under the Investor Relations tab. Speaker 100:01:07As we review these financial results and discuss future expectations, quarter. Please keep in mind that some of our discussion might contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act and the Securities Exchange Act. Quarter. Our forward looking statements and projections could differ materially from actual results. The factors that could cause us material differences are outlined on Slide 34 and are more fully described in our SEC filings. Speaker 100:01:35With that, I will turn the call over to Chris Forsyth, our 13 year, Vice President and CFO. Chris? Thank you, Dan, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us and your interest in Natas Energy. Quarter. Speaker 100:01:46Yesterday, we announced fiscal year to date diluted earnings per share of $5.33 compared to $5.12 per diluted share in the prior year period. Quarter fiscal year to date financial results were in line with our expectations and continue to be driven by 3 key themes: regulatory outcomes reflecting increased safety and reliability spending, continued strong customer growth and higher O and M spending. 2022 and 2023 regulatory outcomes in both of our segments increased operating income by approximately $204,000,000 and higher consumption, residential customer growth and rising industrial load in our distribution segment increased operating income by an additional $27,000,000 quarter. These increases were partially offset by $70,000,000 increase in consolidated O and M. Year to date, distribution O and M increased $48,000,000 or 12.6 percent. Speaker 100:02:39However, during the 3rd fiscal quarter, the rate of O and M increase in this segment moderated somewhat with O and M quarter, increasing approximately 3.5 percent quarter over quarter. The higher level of O and M spending continues to be largely driven by higher levels of service orders to support our growing service territory, primarily in Texas. Fiscal year to date, we experienced an 8% increase in the number of line locations in Texas quarter. And we continue to see higher labor costs for these 3rd party services. Additionally, service orders increased 10%, largely driven by customer growth increase in customer collection activities. Speaker 100:03:15The remaining $22,000,000 in fiscal year to date increase in consolidated O and M incurred in our pipeline and storage segment, quarter primarily driven by the timing of inbound inspection work for this segment. In the prior fiscal year, most of that work was concentrated in 4th quarter. Quarter. In this fiscal year, this work was incurred more ratably throughout the fiscal year. Consolidated capital spending increased 21% or $358,000,000 $2,100,000,000 with 86% dedicated to improving the safety and reliability of our system. Speaker 100:03:46This increase primarily reflects higher spending at APT for our Line S2 2 in line PC projects designed to enhance the safety, reliability, versatility and supply diversification of our system. Quarter. Our distribution segment has increased due to higher safety and reliability spending and higher spending to support customer growth. During our 3rd fiscal quarter, we implemented $122,000,000 in annualized regulatory outcomes. Quarter. Speaker 100:04:13Year to date, we have now completed $263,000,000 in annualized regulatory outcomes and we currently have an additional $263,000,000 in annualized quarter in progress, including $107,000,000 related to our APT general rate case that we filed in May of this year. Quarter. We currently expect to finalize that case in December of 2023. Our financial position continues to remain strong. We finished our 3rd fiscal quarter with an equity capitalization of 61.8 percent and approximately $3,100,000,000 of liquidity. Speaker 100:04:45Quarter. This amount includes $590,000,000 of net proceeds available under existing forward sale agreements that will fully satisfy our anticipated fiscal 'twenty three equity needs and a significant portion of our anticipated fiscal 2024 needs. Additionally, during our 3rd fiscal quarter, we completed our $95,000,000 securitization process in Kansas quarter and began including securitization charge on customer bills effective July 1. As I previously mentioned, our Q3 fiscal year to date results quarter in line with our expectations, which gives us the confidence to reaffirm our fiscal 'twenty three guidance in the range of $6 to $6.10 quarter. Additionally, we now expect capital spending to approximately $2,800,000,000 largely reflecting higher spending for system expansion in our distribution segment. Speaker 100:05:30Quarter. Thank you for your time today. And I will turn the call over to Kevin for his update and some closing remarks. Kevin? Speaker 200:05:36Thank you, Chris. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Quarter. Our fiscal year performance reflects the continued dedication of our 4,800 Atmos Energy employees in executing our proven safety and reliability investment strategy. Through their commitment, focus and effort, we are modernizing our natural gas distribution, transmission and storage systems, quarter, while safely providing reliable natural gas service to our 3,400,000 customers in 1400 communities across our 8 states. Speaker 200:06:08We continue to experience strong customer growth driven by robust employment trend, particularly in Texas. For the 12 months ended June 30, quarter. We added nearly 64,000 new customers with just over 48,000 of those new customers located here in Texas. Quarter. And according to the Texas Workforce Commission, the state continued its streak of record employment. Speaker 200:06:32For the 12 months ended May 31, quarter. The number of employed reached a new record high at nearly 14,400,000, leading the country in number and percentage of jobs added. Quarter. Additionally, according to a study by Site Selection Group, the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex is projected to add 1,000,000 people by 2028 to reach nearly 8,500,000 people here in the metro play. Industrial demand for natural gas in our service territories also remains strong. Speaker 200:07:06During the Q3, we added 10 new industrial customers with an anticipated annual load of approximately 8 Bcf once they are fully operational. Fiscal year to date, we've added 41 new industrial customers with an anticipated annual load of approximately 16 Bcf quarter once they are fully operational. On a volumetric basis, that 16 Bcf of anticipated low is equivalent to adding nearly 294,000 residential customers. Finally, we continued our outreach efforts to energy 3rd. During the 1st 9 months of the fiscal year, our customer advocacy team and customer support agents quarter. Speaker 200:08:00Our continued focus on long term sustainability combined with executing our proven investment, regulatory and financing strategy has us positioned well for another successful year in fiscal 2023 and reflects the vital role we play in every community providing safe, reliable and efficient natural gas service to homes, businesses and industries to fuel our energy needs now and in the future. We appreciate your time this morning and we'll now open the call to questions. Operator00:08:513rd. And our first question is going to come from the line of Richard Sunderland with JPMorgan. Richard, please go ahead. Speaker 300:08:59Hi, good morning. Can you hear me? Speaker 100:09:01Quarter. Yes, good morning. Go ahead. Speaker 300:09:03Great. Thank you. Starting with the O and M trends, can you speak to the year to date trends relative to the implied 4Q outlook here. There's certainly a pretty stark reversal kind of embedded in the numbers. I know you referenced inspection work, but just curious if there are other timing factors at play. Speaker 300:09:20Also if you've done work to derisk 24 and that's part of the outlook for the balance of the year as well. Speaker 100:09:27Yes. Thank you, Rich. We'll start with 2023. Again, a lot of the timing is related to the APT and line inspection work that I referenced just a couple of minutes ago. Quarter. Speaker 100:09:37And we again, more of that work was ratable this year in the first half of the year the fiscal year primarily compared to last year, it was more concentrated in the 4th quarter. As we look forward into fiscal 2024, we're still pulling together that 5 year plan, but we are looking for opportunities to derisk that a little bit in terms of particularly in the distribution side, looking at how we might approach line low case, the strategy there, as well as just trying to lock in some longer term contracts and some of our service contracts that are 3rd party by design. And so those are some things that we're looking at to try to mitigate some increases going forward. Speaker 300:10:16Got it. Very helpful color there. And then shifting to the APT rate case, curious on the early thoughts on stakeholder engagement, what you're hearing locally. What is the timing for settlement discussions just procedurally in that case and any expectations around your ability to reach the settlement? Speaker 200:10:36Yes, Richard, this is Kevin. I'll start out. We're right on pace with the procedural schedule as it's outlined there. We're still continuing to get data requests. We're responding to those. Speaker 200:10:48So at this point, if you look at the procedural schedule, we feel like we're on track To get an order sometime toward the end of the calendar year in that December timeframe. Speaker 300:11:01And then just high level thoughts on ability to reach a settlement here. Is that something that's embedded in the plan? Anything you could say on that front would be helpful. Speaker 200:11:10No, again, we're still continuing to answer questions at this point. We'll see how we progress over the next few weeks or so. But at this point, again, I think we're on track with the outline procedural schedule. Speaker 300:11:23Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you for the time today. Speaker 100:11:26Thank you. Thank you. Operator00:11:55Quarter. Our next question is from Ryan Levine with Citi. Ryan, please go ahead. Speaker 400:12:03Quarter. Hi, everybody. I guess a couple on O and M costs. I appreciate the comments already made. But as we on a go forward basis, Should we be expecting the seasonality of operating costs to be more like this year or prior years? Speaker 400:12:203rd? And kind of what's driving some of the change in cadence? Speaker 200:12:26Yes. Ryan, I I think as you think about on a go forward, we certainly had anticipated going into 2023 some of the inflationary costs. We knew we were going to have some growth, Which if you look at the O and M was driven on a line locating as Chris mentioned before. I would certainly anticipate that to continue. So I think we've got a good outlook on that now on where we stand on number of low case, type of other O and M expenses, As Chris said, as we move to finalize our 2024 plan and look forward from there. Speaker 100:13:00Yes. The other thing too, Ron, I'll add is that a lot of this timing is Just based upon the availability of the contractors to do the work. So we kind of talked about a little bit with the APT work last year. We've done a lot of work in the Q4 because contractors are on-site. They are working with us. Speaker 100:13:16We decided to go ahead and move into the 1st and second quarter since they were already engaged bus rather than releasing them and have them come back 6 months later. So we also have to just work around the needs of the system, the timing of the system. It depends on what we might be doing construction work on certain segments of the system, which could influence timing. I've also referenced service orders. A lot of those are difficult to forecast, but service orders generally related to particularly this last year, more Calling into the customer contact center because of high bills, given the higher prices we experienced back in the winter heating season, difficult to predict that that will reoccur in the first quarter, as well as just some of our disconnection activities. Speaker 100:14:00But that's why we managed to a full fiscal year in terms of guidance, Yes, because some of those operating conditions are difficult to predict and we're just responding to the needs of the business with an eye towards accomplishing our fiscal year earnings per share targets. Speaker 200:14:17Yes. And I think that's the other point, Ryan, here. As our communities, as you've heard us say, are growing, expanding out, Where we're working with them on timing of their projects, whether their infrastructure projects are occurring water, sewer, you have fiber optic projects out there, you've got road Relocations, new road construction, that sort of thing going on. So some of this does cycle throughout the full fiscal year period. Speaker 400:14:43And how much is this change in seasonality of costs is to that was embedded in that response Is really related to the spiking gas prices during this most recent winter as opposed to some of the other drivers that you highlighted? Speaker 200:15:03Yes. I don't know that I would make that kind of direct correlation. I think what Chris was alluding to some orders for reREIT that sort of thing based on bills, but I don't think it's a meaningful percentage Of the rest of the overall operational O and M per se. Speaker 400:15:23Okay. And then one, I noticed in 3rd. Your guidance for the year, you're approaching year end, at least your fiscal year end and the effective tax rate this year is supposed to be higher than last year. Is that from a longer term planning perspective, are you anticipating that the current effective tax rate is appropriate for future time periods or any color you could share on how you're thinking about your tax position? Speaker 100:15:53Yes, Ryan. The effective tax rate that you 13%. Is roughly 11%. That's heavily influenced by the excess of the refund of excess deferred tax liabilities from the TCJA. We're amortizing those over a 3 to 5 year period. Speaker 100:16:08So that's why we've included in our deck, kind of the marginal effective tax rate of roughly 22.5% to 23.5%, so that you have an idea of really what true tax impacts are If you're modeling your O and M or other types of expenses or revenues, but we do anticipate the GAAP effective tax rate to increase as the excess deferred taxes wind down here over the next couple of years and revert back to that more traditional 22% to 23.5%. Speaker 400:16:38Okay, great. Thank Operator00:17:10quarter. And at this point, it does look like we are good on the questions. Dan, would you like me to turn it back over to you for closing remarks? Speaker 100:17:20Quarter. Sure. We appreciate your interest in Atmos Energy and thank you for joining us. A recording of this call is available for replay on our website through September 30th. Have a great day. Speaker 100:17:33Thanks. Operator00:17:34Quarter. Thank you, Dan. And ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's call. 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