NASDAQ:NPCE NeuroPace Q2 2023 Earnings Report $12.15 +0.46 (+3.93%) As of 01:49 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast NeuroPace EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.36Consensus EPS -$0.47Beat/MissBeat by +$0.11One Year Ago EPSN/ANeuroPace Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$16.51 millionExpected Revenue$12.74 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$3.77 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ANeuroPace Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/8/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, August 8, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsNeuroPace's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 14, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by NeuroPace Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 8, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, and welcome to Neuropace's Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Irina Ridley, Chief Legal Officer and Head of Investor Relations for a few introductory comments. Speaker 100:00:19Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us for Neurocase's Q2 2023 Financial and Operating Results Conference Call. On today's call, we will hear from Joel Becker, Chief Executive Officer and Rebecca Coon, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier today, Neurocase released financial results for the Q2 ended June 30, 2023. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website at neurocase.com. Speaker 100:00:48Before we begin, I would like to remind you that throughout this call, We will make statements that include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws, which are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the All forward looking statements, including those around Neuropace's projections, business opportunities, commercial expansion, Market conditions, clinical trials and those relating to our operating trends and future financial performance, The impact of COVID-nineteen on our business and prospects for recovery, expense management, estimates of market Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these statements. For more detailed descriptions of the risks and uncertainties associated with our business, Please refer to the Risk Factors section of our public filings with the SEC, including our annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2022 filed with the SEC on March 2, 2023, our quarterly report on Form 10 Q for the period ended March 31, 2023 filed with the SEC on May 4, 2023 and our quarterly report on Form 10 Q for the This conference call contains time sensitive information, which we believe is accurate only as of this live broadcast on August 8, 2023. NeuroPACE disclaims any intention or obligation, except as required by law, to update or revise any financial projections or forward looking statements, whether because of new information, future events or otherwise. Speaker 100:03:10And with that, I will now turn the call over to Neurocase's Chief Executive Officer, Joel Becker. Joel? Speaker 200:03:18Thank you, Irina, Good afternoon, everyone. It is my pleasure to be here with you today on my first quarterly earnings call with NeuroPace. I'm excited about and committed to advancing our company's mission to transform the lives of people living with epilepsy with RNS Therapy. I'm pleased with what I've seen in the solid underlying fundamentals of the business, excited by the opportunities that lie ahead Committed to leading NeuroPACE to deliver on our commitments of consistent revenue growth, operating discipline And effective cash management. I'm also very thankful for the opportunity to lead the talented and experienced At NeuroPace, on today's call, I will provide highlights from the Q2 of 2023 and review our key business priorities for the remainder of the year. Speaker 200:04:14I will then turn the call over to our CFO, Rebecca Kuhn, to I'm pleased to report total revenue was $16,500,000 representing growth of 62% compared to the prior year period and 14% compared to the Q1 of 2023. The strong performance was primarily driven By increased utilization of the RNS system within comprehensive epilepsy centers or CECs, Revenue contribution from our partnership with Dixie Medical to distribute their SEEG electrodes in the United States and implants of our RNS system in the Nautilus study. As we previously communicated, replacement implant revenue continues to decline As we complete our transition to our 2nd generation device with a longer lasting battery, it now represents approximately 5% of total Revenue and is expected to decline further in the second half of twenty twenty three. Given the strong underlying fundamentals of the business, We are raising full year 2023 revenue guidance to range between $59,000,000 and $61,000,000 up from $52,000,000 to $54,000,000 and from our original expectations of $50,000,000 to $52,000,000 at the start of the year. I am committed to delivering consistent and repeatable operating results, and I look forward to updating you on our progress. Speaker 200:06:04Through a disciplined and focused effort on expense management, cash burn has been significantly reduced from 9,800,000 In the Q1 of 2023 to $4,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023 without compromising revenue growth. Cash burn improvement was primarily driven by 3 components: Revenue growth, gross margin improvement and expense management, all of which will be key areas of focus as we continue to grow and scale the business. We remain committed to ongoing financial discipline with a focus on appropriate resource allocation and expense management. I now want to update you on the core elements of our business that comprise of the rationale for our changing guidance before providing some initial thoughts on where I will be focused As I continue to dive deeper into the business, our commercial strategy is focused on closing the treatment gap for drug resistant epilepsy patients By expanding access to RNS Therapy. Expanding access to RNS Therapy is comprised of expanding patient access to And treatment within CECs, expanding patient indications for the RNS system and expanding the number of clinicians and centers with access to RNS Therapy. Speaker 200:07:28With regard to CECs and Currently indicated patients, the number of new RNS system implants in the second quarter demonstrates that recognition of our RNS distinct features and benefits continues to grow despite our belief that patient volumes in the epilepsy monitoring units or EMUs Have not yet entirely returned to 2019 levels and corresponding growth rates. We believe that patient volumes We'll continue to improve providing an even greater funnel of patients that could benefit from our RNS system. We have recently made changes to our sales leadership and as previously communicated have accelerated the growth of our commercial field organization. The new members of our field organization are now moving through their training cycle and are beginning to be able to more fully contribute to our commercial efforts. We look forward to demonstrating the impact to expanding RNS Therapy access that this expanded team can make over time. Speaker 200:08:26Through our partnership with Dixie Medical, we are identifying and educating additional prospective RNS patients earlier in their treatment journey. Additionally, our nurse navigators and patient ambassadors are working with patients that come into our funnel either through referral Dixie Medical or through our direct to We believe that our clinician and patient education efforts as well as our marketing programs are contributing to the growth in initial implants and will lead to more patients being able to benefit from our RNS system. We have continued to be encouraged by the ongoing durability of our results. As we have previously communicated, not only has RNS Therapy demonstrated Exceptional results in our regulatory clinical studies, RNS patient real world outcomes were even better than those seen in the pivotal trial, With patients achieving 82% median seizure frequency reductions at 3 years. This seizure frequency reduction rate has not been Substantially worse outcomes in real world patient populations and routine clinical practice than had been observed in their controlled clinical trial and reinforced concerns related to side effects of non responsive stimulation such as memory impairment and depression. Speaker 200:10:06We are also working to simplify and make the delivery of RNS Therapy more efficient. In line with those efforts, We are excited to launch in the Q3 our updated Nsight software tool designed to improve patient care by enhancing efficiency of case and patient data management. As an important part of our efforts to expand the populations of patients into generalized epilepsy and expect to complete enrollment in our Nautilus trial in the Q1 of 2024. We are also pleased to announce that we have completed implanting our first cohort of patients in our groundbreaking NIH funded feasibility study in Lennox Gastaut Syndrome or LGS, a type of symptomatic generalized Epilepsy. As a reminder, approximately 40% of drug resistant epilepsy patients have generalized epilepsy. Speaker 200:11:14Given that localization is not necessary, diagnosis is typically easier and faster than for focal epilepsy. Few treatment options exist for patients with drug resistant generalized epilepsy as resection and ablation are not appropriate for this cohort of patients And there are currently no neuromodulation therapies approved for this indication. We believe that expanding into generalized epilepsy will be meaningful to both our business and our mission. With regard to expanding clinician and site access to RNS Therapy, In my 1st 4 weeks, I've identified what I believe to be a significant opportunity that will be an important part of our strategy and our market development efforts Going forward, as a result of a PMAS approval from the FDA that has expanded RNS Therapy site And clinician qualification requirements, neuropace will now have the opportunity to target the additional approximately 1800 epileptologists outside of Level 4 CECs and the entire population of functional neurosurgeons, Empowering them to provide the RNS system as a much needed treatment option for their patients. We believe that with this program qualification expansion, we now have an opportunity to help a significant number of epilepsy patients Who would not have been referred to Level 4 CECs to access RNS Therapy in the community setting as well as enabling the potential for increased referrals to level 4 CECs. Speaker 200:12:53A fully developed strategy will take time and will be the topic of additional future commentary. But we have already begun Accelerating our initial market development efforts around this opportunity and are currently working through the targeting and qualification process with a number of pilot sites. I'm excited about this opportunity to offer our RNS system through a significantly expanded Group of epileptologists and functional neurosurgeons and expect this to be a core area of focus for neuropace expansion strategy and want to reiterate my commitment to executing on our plans of consistent revenue growth, operating discipline And cash management. Finally, before we review our financial performance over the last quarter in detail, I would like to recognize the many contributions from Mike Fabbitt over the past 4 years. His execution with the team Has brought NeuroPACE to the position of solid footing on which we find ourselves today. Speaker 200:14:05And I, along with the rest of the management team, the Board and All of NeuroPace's employees thank him for his efforts. With that, I will now turn the call over to Rebecca To review our strong second quarter financial results. Rebecca? Speaker 300:14:24Thank you, Joel. And once again, thank you, Mike. NeuroPACE's revenue for the Q2 of 2023 was $15,500,000 representing growth of 62% compared to $10,200,000 For the Q2 of 2022 and 14% sequentially compared to $14,500,000 In the Q1 of 2023, our strong performance was primarily driven by increased utilization of our which was higher than we anticipated previously. Replacement implant revenue continued to decline again this quarter as and was approximately 5% of total revenue. Gross margin for the 2nd Quarter of 2023 was 72.5% compared to 73.2% In the Q2 of 2022 71.7 percent in the Q1 of 2023, The decline in gross margin relative to the prior year period was primarily due to a change in product mix With the inclusion of Dixie Medical Products, which have a lower gross margin than our core RNS products, Over time, we expect our gross margin will generally increase as R and S volumes increase and fixed overhead is allocated over more units. Speaker 300:16:12Total operating expenses in the Q2 of 2023 were $19,800,000 compared with $18,400,000 in the same period of the prior year. In the Q2 of 2023, operating expenses as a percentage of revenue were lower for both R and D and SG This was the result of our continued focus on appropriate resource allocation and cash management. And as Joel said, we plan to continue focusing on effectively managing our operating expenses going forward. R and D expense in the Q2 of 2023 was $5,300,000 compared with $5,700,000 in the same period of 2022. The decrease in R and D expense included reductions in outside services for product development and clinical studies, largely resulting from our increased focus and prioritization of key projects in these areas. Speaker 300:17:26SG and A expense in the Q2 of 2023 was $14,500,000 compared with $12,800,000 in the prior year period. The increase in SG and A was primarily driven by personnel related expenses, including an increase in sales based compensation and expenses related to our CEO transition as well as expenses associated with distributing Dixie Medical products. These increases were partially offset by reduced general and administrative expenses, primarily outside services And insurance, loss from operations was $7,900,000 In the Q2 of 2023 compared with $11,000,000 in the prior year period, We recorded $2,100,000 in interest expense in the 2nd quarter compared to $1,900,000 in the prior year period. Net loss was $9,100,000 for the Q2 of 2023 compared with $12,700,000 in the Q2 of 2022. Our cash and short term investments balance as of June 30, 2023 was 63.6 $1,000,000 Our long term borrowings totaled $54,900,000 as of June 30, 2023, with the full principal due on September 30, 2025. Speaker 300:19:09Now turning to our outlook for the remainder of 2023. We are increasing our revenue guidance and now expect Total revenue for 2023 to range between $59,000,000 $61,000,000 Up from $52,000,000 to $54,000,000 We expect that revenue growth will mainly be driven by increases in initial implants And revenue from the sale of Dixie Medical Products. We continue to expect that we will complete the replacement With more replacement implants than anticipated in the Q2, replacement revenue is expected to decline sequentially at a rate slightly faster than we anticipated earlier in the year. Replacement implant We are increasing our gross margin guidance And now expect our gross margin for 2023 will be between 70% 72%, up from 69% to 71%. Our quarterly gross margins may experience small variability due to fluctuations in the proportion of Dixie Medical revenue to overall revenue and other factors. Speaker 300:20:53We continue to expect operating expenses for 2023 to range between $75,000,000 And $77,000,000 including $9,000,000 to $10,000,000 in non cash expenses. Our cash burn in the Q2 of 2023 was $4,000,000 A substantial reduction from our cash burn of $9,800,000 in the Q1 of 2023. Based on our current cash burn rate, we believe that we have I would now like to turn the call back over to Joel for closing remarks. Speaker 200:21:45Joel? Thank you, Rebecca. Overall, the first half of the year results We've been strong with CECs continuing to expand initial implant volume, our distribution partnership with Dixie Medical contributing nicely to those efforts And our clinical development program with Nautilus in the generalized epilepsy population is advancing as planned with Tremendous opportunity and potential on the horizon. Building on the momentum with our core CEC customer group, I'm also very excited about the prospect of expanding drug resistant epilepsy patient access to RNS Therapy through an expanded group of epileptologists and neurosurgeons in the community setting and look forward to keeping you updated on those efforts. Cash reserves remain strong and spending well managed. Speaker 200:22:34We believe that we have sufficient capital to take us to mid 2025. All of these factors position NeuroPace well for the remainder of 2023 into 2024 and beyond. This concludes our prepared remarks. I would now like to turn the call over to the operator, who will open the call for questions. Operator? Operator00:22:57Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from Frank Tantan with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:23:30Great. Thanks for taking my questions and great quarter. Congratulations, Joel, on the appointment and I'll also extend my gratitude to Mike. I was hoping we could start with 1 around the guide. Obviously, a great quarter you guys had here, even after backing out the 5% contribution From replacements, it feels like the back half of you guys have done a nice job of staying conservative and prudent with the forward outlook. Speaker 400:23:53But maybe talk a little bit about What needs to occur to achieve the guidance that you guys have laid out for 2023? And what could be sources Speaker 200:24:10Thank you, Frank, and thanks on behalf of the team. So thanks for the question. When we talk about guidance for the rest of the year, I think it bears mentioning that We're raising guidance by the amount of the beat in Q2 plus nearly that much again for the rest of the full year. And That puts us in a position to having raised by $7,000,000 which is again nearly that beat plus the 3,000,000 And that's in addition to the guide that we raised by $2,000,000 in the first quarter, putting us Up now $9,000,000 in guidance for from how we were thinking about the business at the start of the year. So, as we mentioned, we do think it bears consideration as well as you mentioned that we do expect replacement Implants and revenue to be down somewhat in the second half of the year, but our guidance here for the rest of the year Really takes into account what we've seen in the business in terms of the growth in initial implants and RNS, the Good growth contribution that we've seen from Dixie and the dynamics that I mentioned around the replacement implants. Speaker 200:25:29So it's really those factors that are driving the second half of the year guidance and that's what we're focused on. Speaker 400:25:39Okay. That's helpful. Maybe shifting over to 1 on initial implants. I realize you guys are intentionally not breaking that out. But can you Put some goalposts around just where that number came in, trying to understand just the source of outperformance. Speaker 400:25:56I mean, I think it's looking at my model and making some estimates, so you can say a plus 30% initial implant number is probably rather conservative for the quarter. But Any further clarity you can provide to break out the performance between initial implants and Dixie? Speaker 200:26:14Yes. I think as we've talked about, we're not breaking out revenue by different product lines. But what I would say is that we had strength in revenue performance across the different product lines. The initial implant contribution primarily was driven by utilization within existing centers. And so it was primarily existing centers driving that increase in initial RNS implants. Speaker 200:26:47But, good contributions really across the business with some accelerated strength in replacement implants as we mentioned. Speaker 400:26:58Okay, perfect. And then maybe just for my last one, I was hoping to have a follow-up on the qualification Requirement downgrade, if we can call it that to an epileptologist, not at a level 4 CEC. Maybe just take us a little bit deeper into how Just how impactful that can be and if you've already started to maybe see some impact from that change? Speaker 200:27:21Great. Thanks for that question as well, Frank. We're excited about the opportunity here for site expansion, really For the role that we see it playing in advancing NeuroPACE's mission, our focus is transforming the lives Patients and people who are suffering from epilepsy and you would know, but there are 1,200,000 people in the United States living with drug resistant epilepsy. About 50 patients in associated centers to a significant fraction of epileptologists and An additional 1800 epileptologists from the 1200 that are associated with Level 4 centers and then really Expanding to the entire population of stereotactically trained functional neurosurgeons. So, we see that opening up The community setting, where we think an enlarged group of both clinicians as well as then as RNS Therapy gets more broadly visible in the epilepsy community, patients as well And the ability to build stronger referral pathways even back into the CECs as well. Speaker 200:28:35So when you think about that in the past where we've really been limited and focused on those level 4 CECs, This opens up our ability to take out to eligible clinicians and centers RNS Therapy to patients who may be who would not have had access to it before. And we think that's really exciting. We'll talk more about we're right at the start of this. And so we'll talk more about modeling the opportunity and how we see All that in future calls. But again, with the expansion in clinician Requirements and center requirements that we see here, we think this lines up very nicely with our overall commercial strategy is To increase therapy access in CECs for patients that are in comprehensive epilepsy centers, Expand indications for patients for RNS Therapy like through the work that we're doing with the Nautilus trial. Speaker 200:29:42And then thirdly, expand clinician and site access. And we think this Regulatory approval and the change in qualification criteria lines up very nicely with that 3rd prong of that overall market development strategy. Speaker 400:30:02Great. I'll stop there. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on a really strong start to the first half. Speaker 200:30:07Thank you, Frank. Operator00:30:10Your next question comes from Robbie Marcus with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:30:16Hi, this is Alan on for Ravi. Just to check, can you hear me okay? Speaker 200:30:21We can, Alan. Thank you. Speaker 500:30:23Got it. Yes, I've been just having some connectivity issues. I want to make sure that's not affecting it. But congrats on the good quarter. I think When we look back to some of the conservatism you had after the strong Q1, you talked about how the EMU The procedural environment hadn't exactly returned to pre pandemic levels due to staffing. Speaker 500:30:43But clearly, it looks like trends have continued to improve in the second quarter. So when we look out to Q3, Q4, should we think about it as basically being a fairly normal operating environment? Or was there maybe some one time catch I checked in the quarter that really drove the strength. Speaker 200:31:00Yes. So I think so Alan, thank you for the question and Congratulations on behalf of the team. So when we look at volumes, Again, we saw we really saw strength across the different pieces of the business, and really that strength coming from initial implants as well as From the contributions from Dixie, we do see that patient volumes, we believe going through the epilepsy monitoring units have strengthened And they've strengthened our pipeline. And while we don't know yet whether the volume in those comprehensive CC centers has consistently fully returned. We believe that we have seen strengthening. Speaker 200:31:47Yes. Does that answer your question? Speaker 500:31:51Yes. That's helpful. And then I guess, one on the I guess, the expanded criteria, When we think about what's needed to really target opportunity, I know you said that you're kind of still going through the planning yourself. But when I think about the potential need for additional Costs, especially since you're reiterating that your cash and you can get you out in mid-twenty 25. Do you see the potential need for additional Speaker 200:32:24Thanks again, Alan. It's a great question. As you state, we are in the early stages here to really fully understand the scope Of the opportunity. That said, I would remind us that This remains within our currently indicated patient population. These are customers and by that I mean epileptologists and functional neurosurgeons That are the functional specialties that we call on today. Speaker 200:32:53It is our current technology and our commercial field team. While these are type of procedure and customer and patient and technology, So we see that there will be customer training and education that will be we needed certainly and we're working on evaluating the scope there. But we will be thoughtful about how we invest and make sure that we're doing so responsibly, Operator00:33:48Your next question comes from Paige Chamberlain with Wolfe Research. Go ahead. Speaker 600:33:54Hi, guys. Thank you for taking the questions. I have one on Dixie. We understand there's Several strategic reasons behind that partnership, one being more visibility into the patient funnel. So I guess Just curious, now that you guys are about 9 months into this agreement, what have you been learning? Speaker 600:34:14And is this partnership helping you identify more patients On the front end and manage the patient funnel any better? Speaker 200:34:24Hi, Paige. Thank you for your question. It's a great question. As you say, we are a few months into this, but it is Relatively early as we think about the sales integration process and how the Collaboration is integrating with both our current customer base as well as potential new customers. I would say that we are pleased to get visibility further up the pipeline. Speaker 200:35:06And we're continuing to work closely with both Dixie as well as with our field team in further defining and executing on those both current opportunities as well as customer expansion opportunities. So, we're pleased with what we've seen so far. We're pleased with the Tribution that we've seen to the current business as well as, how it's helping us, look into the pipeline deeper, But it's also still relatively early in our overall integration efforts. Speaker 600:35:39Got it. Thank you. And then one more kind of jumping off that You guys mentioned there were some changes to the sales force in the quarter. So I guess just kind of on an overall level, how are you feeling about the field team? Maybe if you could share any motivations behind some of those changes and what the changes will look like in practice? Speaker 600:35:57And then just for How is the Dixie partnership at all changing the sales strategy? Obviously, it's helpful to have another lever to Hold up, but what is that looking like in the field? Speaker 700:36:11Paige, this is Rebecca. I'll comment on Changes in the sales team, there may have been a bit of confusion about that. We had a change in our sales Leadership this quarter with the new VP of Sales, which we announced about 2 months ago. Other than that, we have not had changes in the sales As you may recall, we accelerated growth in our sales team earlier in 2022. But other than the change in sales leadership, There were not changes this quarter. Speaker 700:36:57Our field commercial organization remains About the same size that it has been for the full year. Speaker 300:37:08All right. Thank you. Operator00:37:14There are no further questions at this time. Please proceed. Speaker 200:37:19Thank you. And I'd like to say thank you to all who were on the call today and for your interest in NeuroPACE. We're pleased with the 1st 2 quarters of 2023. We're focused on execution throughout the rest of the year And we're excited about both the recent progress on and the future opportunities with our site expansion and clinical study work to expand patient indications In the drug refractory generalized epilepsy population with the Nautilus study, all of that with a focus on furthering neuropace's mission to transform the lives of people suffering from epilepsy. Thank you, operator. Speaker 200:37:59With that, we'll conclude today's call. Operator00:38:03Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, and welcome to Neuropace's Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Irina Ridley, Chief Legal Officer and Head of Investor Relations for a few introductory comments. Speaker 100:00:19Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us for Neurocase's Q2 2023 Financial and Operating Results Conference Call. On today's call, we will hear from Joel Becker, Chief Executive Officer and Rebecca Coon, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier today, Neurocase released financial results for the Q2 ended June 30, 2023. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website at neurocase.com. Speaker 100:00:48Before we begin, I would like to remind you that throughout this call, We will make statements that include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws, which are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the All forward looking statements, including those around Neuropace's projections, business opportunities, commercial expansion, Market conditions, clinical trials and those relating to our operating trends and future financial performance, The impact of COVID-nineteen on our business and prospects for recovery, expense management, estimates of market Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these statements. For more detailed descriptions of the risks and uncertainties associated with our business, Please refer to the Risk Factors section of our public filings with the SEC, including our annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2022 filed with the SEC on March 2, 2023, our quarterly report on Form 10 Q for the period ended March 31, 2023 filed with the SEC on May 4, 2023 and our quarterly report on Form 10 Q for the This conference call contains time sensitive information, which we believe is accurate only as of this live broadcast on August 8, 2023. NeuroPACE disclaims any intention or obligation, except as required by law, to update or revise any financial projections or forward looking statements, whether because of new information, future events or otherwise. Speaker 100:03:10And with that, I will now turn the call over to Neurocase's Chief Executive Officer, Joel Becker. Joel? Speaker 200:03:18Thank you, Irina, Good afternoon, everyone. It is my pleasure to be here with you today on my first quarterly earnings call with NeuroPace. I'm excited about and committed to advancing our company's mission to transform the lives of people living with epilepsy with RNS Therapy. I'm pleased with what I've seen in the solid underlying fundamentals of the business, excited by the opportunities that lie ahead Committed to leading NeuroPACE to deliver on our commitments of consistent revenue growth, operating discipline And effective cash management. I'm also very thankful for the opportunity to lead the talented and experienced At NeuroPace, on today's call, I will provide highlights from the Q2 of 2023 and review our key business priorities for the remainder of the year. Speaker 200:04:14I will then turn the call over to our CFO, Rebecca Kuhn, to I'm pleased to report total revenue was $16,500,000 representing growth of 62% compared to the prior year period and 14% compared to the Q1 of 2023. The strong performance was primarily driven By increased utilization of the RNS system within comprehensive epilepsy centers or CECs, Revenue contribution from our partnership with Dixie Medical to distribute their SEEG electrodes in the United States and implants of our RNS system in the Nautilus study. As we previously communicated, replacement implant revenue continues to decline As we complete our transition to our 2nd generation device with a longer lasting battery, it now represents approximately 5% of total Revenue and is expected to decline further in the second half of twenty twenty three. Given the strong underlying fundamentals of the business, We are raising full year 2023 revenue guidance to range between $59,000,000 and $61,000,000 up from $52,000,000 to $54,000,000 and from our original expectations of $50,000,000 to $52,000,000 at the start of the year. I am committed to delivering consistent and repeatable operating results, and I look forward to updating you on our progress. Speaker 200:06:04Through a disciplined and focused effort on expense management, cash burn has been significantly reduced from 9,800,000 In the Q1 of 2023 to $4,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023 without compromising revenue growth. Cash burn improvement was primarily driven by 3 components: Revenue growth, gross margin improvement and expense management, all of which will be key areas of focus as we continue to grow and scale the business. We remain committed to ongoing financial discipline with a focus on appropriate resource allocation and expense management. I now want to update you on the core elements of our business that comprise of the rationale for our changing guidance before providing some initial thoughts on where I will be focused As I continue to dive deeper into the business, our commercial strategy is focused on closing the treatment gap for drug resistant epilepsy patients By expanding access to RNS Therapy. Expanding access to RNS Therapy is comprised of expanding patient access to And treatment within CECs, expanding patient indications for the RNS system and expanding the number of clinicians and centers with access to RNS Therapy. Speaker 200:07:28With regard to CECs and Currently indicated patients, the number of new RNS system implants in the second quarter demonstrates that recognition of our RNS distinct features and benefits continues to grow despite our belief that patient volumes in the epilepsy monitoring units or EMUs Have not yet entirely returned to 2019 levels and corresponding growth rates. We believe that patient volumes We'll continue to improve providing an even greater funnel of patients that could benefit from our RNS system. We have recently made changes to our sales leadership and as previously communicated have accelerated the growth of our commercial field organization. The new members of our field organization are now moving through their training cycle and are beginning to be able to more fully contribute to our commercial efforts. We look forward to demonstrating the impact to expanding RNS Therapy access that this expanded team can make over time. Speaker 200:08:26Through our partnership with Dixie Medical, we are identifying and educating additional prospective RNS patients earlier in their treatment journey. Additionally, our nurse navigators and patient ambassadors are working with patients that come into our funnel either through referral Dixie Medical or through our direct to We believe that our clinician and patient education efforts as well as our marketing programs are contributing to the growth in initial implants and will lead to more patients being able to benefit from our RNS system. We have continued to be encouraged by the ongoing durability of our results. As we have previously communicated, not only has RNS Therapy demonstrated Exceptional results in our regulatory clinical studies, RNS patient real world outcomes were even better than those seen in the pivotal trial, With patients achieving 82% median seizure frequency reductions at 3 years. This seizure frequency reduction rate has not been Substantially worse outcomes in real world patient populations and routine clinical practice than had been observed in their controlled clinical trial and reinforced concerns related to side effects of non responsive stimulation such as memory impairment and depression. Speaker 200:10:06We are also working to simplify and make the delivery of RNS Therapy more efficient. In line with those efforts, We are excited to launch in the Q3 our updated Nsight software tool designed to improve patient care by enhancing efficiency of case and patient data management. As an important part of our efforts to expand the populations of patients into generalized epilepsy and expect to complete enrollment in our Nautilus trial in the Q1 of 2024. We are also pleased to announce that we have completed implanting our first cohort of patients in our groundbreaking NIH funded feasibility study in Lennox Gastaut Syndrome or LGS, a type of symptomatic generalized Epilepsy. As a reminder, approximately 40% of drug resistant epilepsy patients have generalized epilepsy. Speaker 200:11:14Given that localization is not necessary, diagnosis is typically easier and faster than for focal epilepsy. Few treatment options exist for patients with drug resistant generalized epilepsy as resection and ablation are not appropriate for this cohort of patients And there are currently no neuromodulation therapies approved for this indication. We believe that expanding into generalized epilepsy will be meaningful to both our business and our mission. With regard to expanding clinician and site access to RNS Therapy, In my 1st 4 weeks, I've identified what I believe to be a significant opportunity that will be an important part of our strategy and our market development efforts Going forward, as a result of a PMAS approval from the FDA that has expanded RNS Therapy site And clinician qualification requirements, neuropace will now have the opportunity to target the additional approximately 1800 epileptologists outside of Level 4 CECs and the entire population of functional neurosurgeons, Empowering them to provide the RNS system as a much needed treatment option for their patients. We believe that with this program qualification expansion, we now have an opportunity to help a significant number of epilepsy patients Who would not have been referred to Level 4 CECs to access RNS Therapy in the community setting as well as enabling the potential for increased referrals to level 4 CECs. Speaker 200:12:53A fully developed strategy will take time and will be the topic of additional future commentary. But we have already begun Accelerating our initial market development efforts around this opportunity and are currently working through the targeting and qualification process with a number of pilot sites. I'm excited about this opportunity to offer our RNS system through a significantly expanded Group of epileptologists and functional neurosurgeons and expect this to be a core area of focus for neuropace expansion strategy and want to reiterate my commitment to executing on our plans of consistent revenue growth, operating discipline And cash management. Finally, before we review our financial performance over the last quarter in detail, I would like to recognize the many contributions from Mike Fabbitt over the past 4 years. His execution with the team Has brought NeuroPACE to the position of solid footing on which we find ourselves today. Speaker 200:14:05And I, along with the rest of the management team, the Board and All of NeuroPace's employees thank him for his efforts. With that, I will now turn the call over to Rebecca To review our strong second quarter financial results. Rebecca? Speaker 300:14:24Thank you, Joel. And once again, thank you, Mike. NeuroPACE's revenue for the Q2 of 2023 was $15,500,000 representing growth of 62% compared to $10,200,000 For the Q2 of 2022 and 14% sequentially compared to $14,500,000 In the Q1 of 2023, our strong performance was primarily driven by increased utilization of our which was higher than we anticipated previously. Replacement implant revenue continued to decline again this quarter as and was approximately 5% of total revenue. Gross margin for the 2nd Quarter of 2023 was 72.5% compared to 73.2% In the Q2 of 2022 71.7 percent in the Q1 of 2023, The decline in gross margin relative to the prior year period was primarily due to a change in product mix With the inclusion of Dixie Medical Products, which have a lower gross margin than our core RNS products, Over time, we expect our gross margin will generally increase as R and S volumes increase and fixed overhead is allocated over more units. Speaker 300:16:12Total operating expenses in the Q2 of 2023 were $19,800,000 compared with $18,400,000 in the same period of the prior year. In the Q2 of 2023, operating expenses as a percentage of revenue were lower for both R and D and SG This was the result of our continued focus on appropriate resource allocation and cash management. And as Joel said, we plan to continue focusing on effectively managing our operating expenses going forward. R and D expense in the Q2 of 2023 was $5,300,000 compared with $5,700,000 in the same period of 2022. The decrease in R and D expense included reductions in outside services for product development and clinical studies, largely resulting from our increased focus and prioritization of key projects in these areas. Speaker 300:17:26SG and A expense in the Q2 of 2023 was $14,500,000 compared with $12,800,000 in the prior year period. The increase in SG and A was primarily driven by personnel related expenses, including an increase in sales based compensation and expenses related to our CEO transition as well as expenses associated with distributing Dixie Medical products. These increases were partially offset by reduced general and administrative expenses, primarily outside services And insurance, loss from operations was $7,900,000 In the Q2 of 2023 compared with $11,000,000 in the prior year period, We recorded $2,100,000 in interest expense in the 2nd quarter compared to $1,900,000 in the prior year period. Net loss was $9,100,000 for the Q2 of 2023 compared with $12,700,000 in the Q2 of 2022. Our cash and short term investments balance as of June 30, 2023 was 63.6 $1,000,000 Our long term borrowings totaled $54,900,000 as of June 30, 2023, with the full principal due on September 30, 2025. Speaker 300:19:09Now turning to our outlook for the remainder of 2023. We are increasing our revenue guidance and now expect Total revenue for 2023 to range between $59,000,000 $61,000,000 Up from $52,000,000 to $54,000,000 We expect that revenue growth will mainly be driven by increases in initial implants And revenue from the sale of Dixie Medical Products. We continue to expect that we will complete the replacement With more replacement implants than anticipated in the Q2, replacement revenue is expected to decline sequentially at a rate slightly faster than we anticipated earlier in the year. Replacement implant We are increasing our gross margin guidance And now expect our gross margin for 2023 will be between 70% 72%, up from 69% to 71%. Our quarterly gross margins may experience small variability due to fluctuations in the proportion of Dixie Medical revenue to overall revenue and other factors. Speaker 300:20:53We continue to expect operating expenses for 2023 to range between $75,000,000 And $77,000,000 including $9,000,000 to $10,000,000 in non cash expenses. Our cash burn in the Q2 of 2023 was $4,000,000 A substantial reduction from our cash burn of $9,800,000 in the Q1 of 2023. Based on our current cash burn rate, we believe that we have I would now like to turn the call back over to Joel for closing remarks. Speaker 200:21:45Joel? Thank you, Rebecca. Overall, the first half of the year results We've been strong with CECs continuing to expand initial implant volume, our distribution partnership with Dixie Medical contributing nicely to those efforts And our clinical development program with Nautilus in the generalized epilepsy population is advancing as planned with Tremendous opportunity and potential on the horizon. Building on the momentum with our core CEC customer group, I'm also very excited about the prospect of expanding drug resistant epilepsy patient access to RNS Therapy through an expanded group of epileptologists and neurosurgeons in the community setting and look forward to keeping you updated on those efforts. Cash reserves remain strong and spending well managed. Speaker 200:22:34We believe that we have sufficient capital to take us to mid 2025. All of these factors position NeuroPace well for the remainder of 2023 into 2024 and beyond. This concludes our prepared remarks. I would now like to turn the call over to the operator, who will open the call for questions. Operator? Operator00:22:57Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from Frank Tantan with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:23:30Great. Thanks for taking my questions and great quarter. Congratulations, Joel, on the appointment and I'll also extend my gratitude to Mike. I was hoping we could start with 1 around the guide. Obviously, a great quarter you guys had here, even after backing out the 5% contribution From replacements, it feels like the back half of you guys have done a nice job of staying conservative and prudent with the forward outlook. Speaker 400:23:53But maybe talk a little bit about What needs to occur to achieve the guidance that you guys have laid out for 2023? And what could be sources Speaker 200:24:10Thank you, Frank, and thanks on behalf of the team. So thanks for the question. When we talk about guidance for the rest of the year, I think it bears mentioning that We're raising guidance by the amount of the beat in Q2 plus nearly that much again for the rest of the full year. And That puts us in a position to having raised by $7,000,000 which is again nearly that beat plus the 3,000,000 And that's in addition to the guide that we raised by $2,000,000 in the first quarter, putting us Up now $9,000,000 in guidance for from how we were thinking about the business at the start of the year. So, as we mentioned, we do think it bears consideration as well as you mentioned that we do expect replacement Implants and revenue to be down somewhat in the second half of the year, but our guidance here for the rest of the year Really takes into account what we've seen in the business in terms of the growth in initial implants and RNS, the Good growth contribution that we've seen from Dixie and the dynamics that I mentioned around the replacement implants. Speaker 200:25:29So it's really those factors that are driving the second half of the year guidance and that's what we're focused on. Speaker 400:25:39Okay. That's helpful. Maybe shifting over to 1 on initial implants. I realize you guys are intentionally not breaking that out. But can you Put some goalposts around just where that number came in, trying to understand just the source of outperformance. Speaker 400:25:56I mean, I think it's looking at my model and making some estimates, so you can say a plus 30% initial implant number is probably rather conservative for the quarter. But Any further clarity you can provide to break out the performance between initial implants and Dixie? Speaker 200:26:14Yes. I think as we've talked about, we're not breaking out revenue by different product lines. But what I would say is that we had strength in revenue performance across the different product lines. The initial implant contribution primarily was driven by utilization within existing centers. And so it was primarily existing centers driving that increase in initial RNS implants. Speaker 200:26:47But, good contributions really across the business with some accelerated strength in replacement implants as we mentioned. Speaker 400:26:58Okay, perfect. And then maybe just for my last one, I was hoping to have a follow-up on the qualification Requirement downgrade, if we can call it that to an epileptologist, not at a level 4 CEC. Maybe just take us a little bit deeper into how Just how impactful that can be and if you've already started to maybe see some impact from that change? Speaker 200:27:21Great. Thanks for that question as well, Frank. We're excited about the opportunity here for site expansion, really For the role that we see it playing in advancing NeuroPACE's mission, our focus is transforming the lives Patients and people who are suffering from epilepsy and you would know, but there are 1,200,000 people in the United States living with drug resistant epilepsy. About 50 patients in associated centers to a significant fraction of epileptologists and An additional 1800 epileptologists from the 1200 that are associated with Level 4 centers and then really Expanding to the entire population of stereotactically trained functional neurosurgeons. So, we see that opening up The community setting, where we think an enlarged group of both clinicians as well as then as RNS Therapy gets more broadly visible in the epilepsy community, patients as well And the ability to build stronger referral pathways even back into the CECs as well. Speaker 200:28:35So when you think about that in the past where we've really been limited and focused on those level 4 CECs, This opens up our ability to take out to eligible clinicians and centers RNS Therapy to patients who may be who would not have had access to it before. And we think that's really exciting. We'll talk more about we're right at the start of this. And so we'll talk more about modeling the opportunity and how we see All that in future calls. But again, with the expansion in clinician Requirements and center requirements that we see here, we think this lines up very nicely with our overall commercial strategy is To increase therapy access in CECs for patients that are in comprehensive epilepsy centers, Expand indications for patients for RNS Therapy like through the work that we're doing with the Nautilus trial. Speaker 200:29:42And then thirdly, expand clinician and site access. And we think this Regulatory approval and the change in qualification criteria lines up very nicely with that 3rd prong of that overall market development strategy. Speaker 400:30:02Great. I'll stop there. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on a really strong start to the first half. Speaker 200:30:07Thank you, Frank. Operator00:30:10Your next question comes from Robbie Marcus with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:30:16Hi, this is Alan on for Ravi. Just to check, can you hear me okay? Speaker 200:30:21We can, Alan. Thank you. Speaker 500:30:23Got it. Yes, I've been just having some connectivity issues. I want to make sure that's not affecting it. But congrats on the good quarter. I think When we look back to some of the conservatism you had after the strong Q1, you talked about how the EMU The procedural environment hadn't exactly returned to pre pandemic levels due to staffing. Speaker 500:30:43But clearly, it looks like trends have continued to improve in the second quarter. So when we look out to Q3, Q4, should we think about it as basically being a fairly normal operating environment? Or was there maybe some one time catch I checked in the quarter that really drove the strength. Speaker 200:31:00Yes. So I think so Alan, thank you for the question and Congratulations on behalf of the team. So when we look at volumes, Again, we saw we really saw strength across the different pieces of the business, and really that strength coming from initial implants as well as From the contributions from Dixie, we do see that patient volumes, we believe going through the epilepsy monitoring units have strengthened And they've strengthened our pipeline. And while we don't know yet whether the volume in those comprehensive CC centers has consistently fully returned. We believe that we have seen strengthening. Speaker 200:31:47Yes. Does that answer your question? Speaker 500:31:51Yes. That's helpful. And then I guess, one on the I guess, the expanded criteria, When we think about what's needed to really target opportunity, I know you said that you're kind of still going through the planning yourself. But when I think about the potential need for additional Costs, especially since you're reiterating that your cash and you can get you out in mid-twenty 25. Do you see the potential need for additional Speaker 200:32:24Thanks again, Alan. It's a great question. As you state, we are in the early stages here to really fully understand the scope Of the opportunity. That said, I would remind us that This remains within our currently indicated patient population. These are customers and by that I mean epileptologists and functional neurosurgeons That are the functional specialties that we call on today. Speaker 200:32:53It is our current technology and our commercial field team. While these are type of procedure and customer and patient and technology, So we see that there will be customer training and education that will be we needed certainly and we're working on evaluating the scope there. But we will be thoughtful about how we invest and make sure that we're doing so responsibly, Operator00:33:48Your next question comes from Paige Chamberlain with Wolfe Research. Go ahead. Speaker 600:33:54Hi, guys. Thank you for taking the questions. I have one on Dixie. We understand there's Several strategic reasons behind that partnership, one being more visibility into the patient funnel. So I guess Just curious, now that you guys are about 9 months into this agreement, what have you been learning? Speaker 600:34:14And is this partnership helping you identify more patients On the front end and manage the patient funnel any better? Speaker 200:34:24Hi, Paige. Thank you for your question. It's a great question. As you say, we are a few months into this, but it is Relatively early as we think about the sales integration process and how the Collaboration is integrating with both our current customer base as well as potential new customers. I would say that we are pleased to get visibility further up the pipeline. Speaker 200:35:06And we're continuing to work closely with both Dixie as well as with our field team in further defining and executing on those both current opportunities as well as customer expansion opportunities. So, we're pleased with what we've seen so far. We're pleased with the Tribution that we've seen to the current business as well as, how it's helping us, look into the pipeline deeper, But it's also still relatively early in our overall integration efforts. Speaker 600:35:39Got it. Thank you. And then one more kind of jumping off that You guys mentioned there were some changes to the sales force in the quarter. So I guess just kind of on an overall level, how are you feeling about the field team? Maybe if you could share any motivations behind some of those changes and what the changes will look like in practice? Speaker 600:35:57And then just for How is the Dixie partnership at all changing the sales strategy? Obviously, it's helpful to have another lever to Hold up, but what is that looking like in the field? Speaker 700:36:11Paige, this is Rebecca. I'll comment on Changes in the sales team, there may have been a bit of confusion about that. We had a change in our sales Leadership this quarter with the new VP of Sales, which we announced about 2 months ago. Other than that, we have not had changes in the sales As you may recall, we accelerated growth in our sales team earlier in 2022. But other than the change in sales leadership, There were not changes this quarter. Speaker 700:36:57Our field commercial organization remains About the same size that it has been for the full year. Speaker 300:37:08All right. Thank you. Operator00:37:14There are no further questions at this time. Please proceed. Speaker 200:37:19Thank you. And I'd like to say thank you to all who were on the call today and for your interest in NeuroPACE. We're pleased with the 1st 2 quarters of 2023. We're focused on execution throughout the rest of the year And we're excited about both the recent progress on and the future opportunities with our site expansion and clinical study work to expand patient indications In the drug refractory generalized epilepsy population with the Nautilus study, all of that with a focus on furthering neuropace's mission to transform the lives of people suffering from epilepsy. Thank you, operator. Speaker 200:37:59With that, we'll conclude today's call. Operator00:38:03Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating inRead morePowered by