NASDAQ:TELA TELA Bio Q2 2023 Earnings Report $1.02 +0.02 (+2.00%) Closing price 05/2/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$1.06 +0.04 (+3.92%) As of 05/2/2025 07:45 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast TELA Bio EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.46Consensus EPS -$0.58Beat/MissBeat by +$0.12One Year Ago EPSN/ATELA Bio Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$14.49 millionExpected Revenue$14.60 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$110.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/ATELA Bio Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/9/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, August 9, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsTELA Bio's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by TELA Bio Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 9, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the TeleBio Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. And I would now like to turn the conference over to Louisa Smith from the Gilmartin Group. Speaker 100:00:24Thank you, Chris, and good afternoon, everyone. Earlier today, TeleBio released financial results for the Q2 2023. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website. Joining me on today's call are Tony Kotlush, President and Chief Executive Officer and Roberto Cuca, Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that during this conference call, the company may make projections and forward looking statements regarding future events. Speaker 100:00:56We encourage you to review the company's past and future filings with the SEC, including without limitation, The company's annual report on Form 10 ks and quarterly reports on Form 10 Qs, which identify the These factors may include, without limitation, statements regarding product development and pipeline opportunities, Product potential, the impact of various macroeconomic conditions, including the COVID-nineteen pandemic, recessionary concerns, banking instability and inflationary pressures, the regulatory environment, sales and marketing strategies, capital resources or operating performance. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Tony. Speaker 200:01:47Thank you, Louisa. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us today for our Q2 2023 earnings call. We are pleased to report another quarter of strong financial results and operational execution. As you will hear, we continue to deliver on our financial goals and advance our key initiatives. Total revenue for the Q2 was $14,500,000 representing growth of 39% year over year, which significantly outpaced the growth of the markets in which we sell. Speaker 200:02:20I am happy to report we are seeing an improving sales environment As procedure volume and elective surgery demand is up. In the second quarter, we saw strong hernia sales, which may reflect the first steps towards addressing the tens of thousands of procedures delayed during the COVID-nineteen pandemic. If so, that bodes well for a solid second half of continued high growth. On this afternoon's call, as always, I'll provide an update on the progress we are making with the key drivers of revenue and revenue growth that we refer to as the 5 factors. Then I'll ask Roberto to provide further color on our financial results before we open the line for your questions. Speaker 200:03:05Let me begin with GPO Access. Tela now has contracts with 3 national group purchasing organizations. These agreements streamline the process by which a surgeon can choose to use our OVATEX products by providing access right off the supply room shelf Rather than the surgeons having to go through an administratively burdensome utilization committee process, We recently entered into a 4 year contract extension with HealthTrust, which as you may recall was our first GPO. The original term of 3 years began in 2020, just as COVID-nineteen pandemic began impacting the healthcare system. Notwithstanding the significant headwinds, we were able to demonstrate the value of our products to the hospitals served by HealthTrust, which led to the extended contract term of this renewal. Speaker 200:03:59Our second GPO contract was with Premier, which became effective On October 1, 2022, as the 2nd largest GPO in the country, it granted us access to over 4,400 hospitals. We are pleased with the progress we've made ramping up Premier in Q2, and it is already an important contributor to our revenue performance. Our most recently signed 3rd GPO is structured as a dual source contract in the biosynthetic category. This means that we compete with only a single alternative supplier in this system, which is highly compliant with the contractual product offerings. These 3 GPO contracts together cover over 6,000 hospitals, providing significant access to our sales representatives. Speaker 200:04:46This leads us to 2 more of our revenue driving factors, sales force size and sales force productivity. GPO contracts give us access to hospitals across the country, but we can only convert this access into sales via representatives who can call on and educate the physicians in those hospitals. In order to capitalize on the figurative hunting license that contracts represent, We've been meaningfully expanding the size of our sales force we have in the field targeting those geographies with the greatest GPO opportunity. As of today, we have 75 sales reps on board against the year end target of 75 to 80 reps. We have continued to invest in the training of our sales force through our Playbook 90 program, so that they are comfortable representing all of our products in our portfolio. Speaker 200:05:36We continue to revise and improve our training system with the result that our most recent cohorts of hires have reached breakeven profitability in 6 Another important factor underlying revenues and their growth is our continued development of clinical data. The compelling results of our studies of Ovitex have played an important role in our ability to take share from older technologies. Surgeons are impressed with the exceptionally low recurrence rate of 2.6% that Ovitex exhibited in our BRAVO study compared to the double digit figures that competitive products show. We're continuously growing our data set and initiating studies to support physicians and patients in their consideration of OVA text. We also continue to enroll patients in our BRAVO-two study, which captures data on the effectiveness of OVA text when used in robotic procedures. Speaker 200:06:30As the use of surgical robotic systems in general surgery continues to grow And with 45% of Ovatek's herniated implanted robotically in the most recent quarter for which data are available, we expect That results from BRAVO-two study will be of great use to physicians and patients in making treatment decisions. In addition to collecting clinical data, we also study consumer behavior and interest in hernia treatment matters. In a study among consumers that we recently conducted, we found that there was significant concern over using permanent synthetic mesh and a strong desire for surgeon expertise in innovative more natural solutions. A highlight of the study showed that 77% of consumers who had a permanent plastic mesh repair would prefer a more natural repair option for subsequent hernia requiring surgery. Additionally, 95% of all respondents considered Important or very important for their doctor or surgeon to be current with top innovations in medical care. Speaker 200:07:37The results of this study are indicative of the critical role that patients serve in their health care decisions and are at the heart of TELUS' mission to optimize soft tissue restoration and preservation. The impressive set of data we've collected supports both patients' desire for a more natural repair product and encourages surgeon confidence to choose OvaTax in future surgeries. The last factor is our product portfolio. We strive to assemble a range of products that leverages our current call points to drive expansion in the soft tissue market. We do this through our internal R and D efforts and through external business development activities. Speaker 200:08:16We've already announced several new products in 2023, including 2 larger configurations of the OVATEX LTR products for use on ventral and incisional hernias and minimally invasive surgeries and 510 clearance for OVATEK's long term resorbable or LTR in plastic and reconstructive surgery. Tela is Committed to creating a broad portfolio that delivers next generation soft tissue preservation and restoration solutions and meets the varying needs of surgeons and patients. We look forward to announcing future portfolio offerings and developments as they become ready for commercialization. Continued execution of these five factors will drive meaningful sales growth and create value for the company and its owners, particularly and an improving procedure environment. We are highly optimistic about delivering a strong second half given where we are today. Speaker 200:09:11With that, I'll turn the call over to Roberto for more details on our Q3 financial results. Thanks, Tony. As Tony mentioned earlier, revenue for the Q2 increased 39% year over year and 22% sequentially over the 1st quarter to $14,500,000 During the Q2, OVERTEX revenue grew 43% year over year and PRS grew 31%. Gross margin was 70% for the Q2 and was driven by the cost of goods of product actually sold within the quarter as well as amounts reserved for expiration of inventory purchased within the quarter, whether or not sold within the quarter. This strong showing was driven by slightly lower than expected inventory purchases in the Q2 as well as our ongoing inventory management and dynamic inventory redeployment efforts. Speaker 200:10:02Sales and marketing expense was $14,600,000 in the Q2 of 2023 compared to $11,100,000 in the same period in 2022. The increase was mainly due to higher compensation costs as a result of the expansion of our commercial organization, higher travel and consulting General and administrative expense was $3,500,000 in the Q2 of 2023 compared to $3,600,000 in the same period in 2022. R and D expense was $2,500,000 in the Q2 of 2023 compared to $2,100,000 in the same period last year. Loss from operations was $10,400,000 in the Q2 of 2023 compared to $10,200,000 in the prior year period. Net loss was $10,800,000 in the Q2 of 2023 compared to $12,700,000 in the same period in 2022. Speaker 200:11:02We ended the Q2 with $65,300,000 in cash and cash equivalents after conducting a public offering in mid April. Regarding the remainder of 2023, we continue to expect full year revenues to be in the range of $60,000,000 to $65,000,000 representing growth of 45% I'll now turn the call back to Tony for closing remarks. Thanks, Roberto. First, I'd like to thank all on the Tele team who helped deliver another excellent quarter. We are thrilled with the strong start to 2023 and believe that our momentum will continue for the remainder of the year. Speaker 200:11:42The synergies of all five factors coming together lends itself to some exciting catalysts in the coming periods, and we believe we're in a position to drive top line growth, capture competitive market share and expand our portfolio with new soft tissue preservation and restoration technologies. As a result of the offering in April, our balance sheet is well suited to support our dynamic growth and strategic initiatives. I'll finish by simply saying we are still in the early days of a $1,000,000,000 plus market opportunity, but Operator00:12:34One moment please for our first question. And our first question will come from Michael Sarcone of Jefferies. Your line is open. Speaker 300:12:45Good afternoon and thanks for taking the question. Just to start, you talked about strong hernia sales And you mentioned that this could be the first step in addressing the backlog of procedures. So I guess, can you just give us an update on Where that backlog stands, maybe how you size it and the potential for that conversion to drive growth and maybe also comment on what kind of visibility You have there? Speaker 200:13:12Sure, Michael. This is Roberto. So the way we have calculated or estimated the backlog is we Have used market data on the total number of hernia procedures per period. So by quarter or month Pre COVID-nineteen, we mapped out the expected trajectory given that this is a population based Procedures, so there really shouldn't be much growth beyond the growth of population. And then we looked at the actual reported procedures Post the beginning of COVID-nineteen and essentially calculated the area between those two curves to estimate the backlog. Speaker 200:13:51We then checked our thinking and approach with a couple of hospital industry executives that we know and consult with on occasion Who said that they estimated things the same way, roughly 100,000 procedures. And as we've said in the past, you don't dig into or Cut down that backlog unless you're doing procedures at a rate higher than the pre COVID-nineteen procedure rate. So we don't think we're there yet, But we think that the procedure rate has gone up over more recent period. It's sort of the most recent couple of quarters We're beginning to at least slow down the rate of accretion into that backlog. Yes, Michael, our penetration is so low This is plenty of market for us to grow into, which we've demonstrated, our ability to do so, over the last couple of years In the COVID period, so increasing procedure volume will do nothing but help us and it's actually a benefit if this Backlog unwinds over a long period of time. Speaker 200:14:54It allows us to harvest that for the next couple of years, Which is advantageous for us. Speaker 300:15:03Thanks. And I guess just a quick follow-up on that one. Where do procedures stand today versus pre COVID level? Speaker 200:15:15So we estimated that about a year ago procedures were around 85% to pre COVID. We're guessing there's somewhere between 90% 95% of pre COVID levels now. Speaker 300:15:30Okay, thanks. And just one more for me and Operator00:15:32I'll hop back in the queue. Speaker 300:15:33So one of your competitors is working through some disruption. Can you talk about your ability to capitalize on this? And are you seeing more competitive account wins or more Vergen, given the disruption? Speaker 400:15:49Sure. Speaker 200:15:50Yes, I'll take that one, Michael. So, the product in question It's been around for a long time. It's what I would consider an old school, 1st generation biologic material. And I think most of the user base tends to skew a bit older. That's not to say it's 100%, but a bit older. Speaker 200:16:13And in terms of hernia procedures, the product is pretty much niched in the most complicated ab wall reconstructions. And then it's certainly used in plastic and reconstructive procedures as well. So the accounts We have found our spread across the U. S. And are quite patchy. Speaker 200:16:37So although The revenue volume is estimated to be about $40,000,000 between those two procedures. It is patchy and infrequent, right, when So we've benefited a little bit, I think, from the situation, but not all that much. On the hernia side, I think our product has the reputation of being a universal Hernia product, right. It's reinforced with a little bit of polymer suture, whether permanent or resorbable for reinforcement. 46% of our procedures are being done robotically right now, and 60% of our procedures are being done both robotically and laparoscopically. Speaker 200:17:26So we're being used across inguinals, hiatals, simple ventrals and complex ab wall. And I think these older generation surgeons that are more tied to 1st generation biologics, probably will reach For another pure biologic product that's older, before they reach for our product, given that our product is being known as a more broadly used Technology. So yes, we are picking up some here and there, but it's not going to be a big conversion. I We are actually marketing and functioning in a much wider piece of the market. So I think that's where we want to be. Speaker 200:18:08And the trade off of directing our reps to chase these other procedures versus sticking to our knitting and sticking to our plan It's a trade off that we evaluate in every territory as the situation comes up. Most of the time, our preference is to grow our business for the long haul for durability. And then keep in mind as well that when we get a situation where the product That's recalled is needed replacement. There has to be a match up that we have a contract, we have access and we have a rep there. And that just doesn't happen all the time given the size of our footprint right now. Speaker 200:18:46And again, chasing versus executing It is the way we think about it, Michael. Speaker 300:18:54Got it. That's really helpful. Thank you. Operator00:18:58Thank you. And one moment please for our next question. Our next question will come from Frank Pekkanen of Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 500:19:14Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I was hoping to start with 1 on GPOs. I think in previous calls you've talked about HealthTrust specific composition of revenue, I'm understanding it's going to be a little bit more challenging, but I was hoping you could talk about what kind of growth was driven from the 3 GPOs in aggregate versus growth outside of GPOs? Speaker 400:19:37Yes. So, Speaker 200:19:41I think from a percent of revenue perspective, we went from mid to high 30 from these GPOs. So the growth is stronger within the GPO footprint, Also approaching about 60%, I would say. But the real story is that we are executing across The entire universe, right. So our first priority is implementation into the new GPOs And really they're all 3 new at this point given the HealthTrust renewal. But we also have a really strong system and process for getting into non GPO IDNs and systems. Speaker 200:20:32So, we are active and doing very well in both sectors. I think we're going to see a pickup within this GPO organization since we're really early days in all three. And I think these implementations are going to take us through the rest of this year and maybe through the rest of next year and beyond. These are big systems. They're bureaucratic and the opportunity is quite large. Speaker 200:20:59So there's a lot for us to harvest here for the long haul as one of our five factors. But we've grown significantly from the 1 GPO just As measured from about a year ago to now. Speaker 500:21:16Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe in the back half of the year, growth expectations In the hernia versus PRS, I know that PRS had been outpacing hernia for a little bit, but it sounds like hernia has been a little bit stronger As of recently, so just trying to understand how you guys are thinking about growth from hernia versus PRS as you close out the year? Speaker 200:21:38Sure. So, OVAX grew 43% year over year, PRS grew 31% year over year. A lot of that though that's lower growth number from PRS had to do with last year's Q2. So, 2nd quarter revenues for PRS last year were $3,400,000 which was the highest PRS quarter of the year, Just for ins and outs reasons. So it was a tough comp on the growth perspective. Speaker 200:22:08So we do expect that notwithstanding that, that it's likely that PRS will return to being larger grower certainly for the year overall And likely for the second half. Both and then last one. Speaker 500:22:24Sorry, go ahead, Tony. Speaker 200:22:26I actually said both are going to be strong, just to put a point on it. Speaker 500:22:31Perfect. And then last one for me, on the gross margin, good to see that hit 70%, how should we be thinking about gross margin profile for the back half of the year? Speaker 200:22:39So, as we pointed out, gross margin will bump around So when we build inventory, when we buy any inventory actually, we take a charge reserve For that purchased inventory in the quarter in which we buy it for all potential expiration or destruction of the product subsequent to that quarter. So the 2 quarters of this year have been a little bit smoother as far as the amount of inventory that we ordered as between them, But we do expect some bumping up and down. So it's going to be somewhere between the 66% that we saw in the Q1 and the 70% that we achieved in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 500:23:22Okay, sounds good. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on all the progress. Operator00:23:27Thank you. One moment please for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Matt O'Brien of Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Speaker 600:23:41Hey, this is Phil on for Mac. Congrats on the great quarter and thanks for taking our questions. For starters, I guess as it relates to guidance, Can you help us understand the decision to keep the range this wide? I think it implies growth of 47% to about 70% in the back half. So just help us understand what gives you gets you to the top and bottom of that range? Speaker 500:24:04Sure. Speaker 200:24:07It is a wider range for half the year, but there is still some uncertainty around the COVID-nineteen and its impact on the quarters, and frankly the steps up that we'll be taking in the 3rd and 4th quarters to achieve that 60 to 65 range Reasonably large, and you could see some lagging over from the 3rd to the 4th quarter or some acceleration for the 4th to the 3rd. So, to give ourselves room, we've just kept it at the same range. Speaker 600:24:36That's helpful. And I guess a multi partner here on GTO that As I think about HealthTrust and how COVID impacted your ability to penetrate into that account during that first contract with them versus where you With that account now, where do you think penetration currently stands and where do you think it can get to? Is that going to be a meaningful tailwind still Just on that first GPO and then any color on the 3rd GPO, which I believe started April 1. Speaker 200:25:06So, Phil, I would say we're very early days in terms of penetration even with HealthTrust, right. So During the COVID period, we probably only had, I don't know, 16, 18 months of implementation time, Given the ups and downs with the pandemic and we still got to about 30% and 35%, thirty 6% of revenue coming out of HealthTrust. HealthTrust is made up of a whole bunch of systems known as shareholders. We have really only implemented partially into the HCA component of HealthTrust. There are many other shareholders and systems under HealthTrust that we haven't really touched yet. Speaker 200:25:54So I think with a 4 year run, there's a heck of a lot of ceiling for us to work with there, not just In HCA component of HealthTrust, but in all the others as well, whether it's Tennant, Steward, All the rest of the bigs that are a part of HealthTrust. So I feel like that's going to be a great source of growth for us. The 3rd GPO has essentially gone from nothing to triple roughly in terms of raw dollars And we really didn't start implementing there until April or so, which was by their instruction and design. So there is a heck of a lot of room for us to grow in the 3rd GPO as well. We are just starting out there. Speaker 200:26:43And then on the Premier side, that's already become our 2nd largest source of revenue. And that's coming along very nicely and we're in the very early stages. We are very underpenetrated in Premier, but that's grown very, very well since the end of last year. So I think we're very early days on all fronts And you're going to see the GPO contribution in raw dollars shoot up. It may shoot up A little slower than the growth rate perhaps given the fact that we're really good at executing at IDNs and systems that aren't part of GPOs. Speaker 200:27:26But It's a lot for us to work with and we're very bullish and optimistic that that's a strong piece of what we're going to do here and we're putting reps in the right places Operator00:27:46One moment please for our next question. Our next question will come from David Turkaly of JMP Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 300:28:00Hey, good evening. Speaker 400:28:03Tony, I just wonder if you might make a comment on trends you've seen in the pricing ASPs on either side of the business And or mix from either larger sheets or anything like that that might have contributed to the hernia side being as strong as it was? Speaker 200:28:21Yes. Hernie aside was volume. We have not taken a price increase since we've rolled these products out. Our strategy is to offer a tremendous value proposition with superb clinical data and performance for patients and a good value for systems. We believe this is the right pathway until we have a very complete array of GPOs. Speaker 200:28:47There's some more that we want to engage with and win contracts. So we're going to keep our pricing pretty much where it is. And then the discounting that we're showing at the GPOs isn't crippling either. We've priced the product very fair from a list price level and cost savings that are doable by the GPO I do not require huge discounting and everyone's happy. So we're going to stick with that for now. Speaker 200:29:18I think for us it's top line growth. It's getting access, it's validating our technology and it's a lot and it's driving the clinical data into situations where people are anxious to listen to us. We think that's the best approach for now. It doesn't mean we might not take some price increase in the future, but for now our ASPs have been Pretty steady. And we're still hovering around $3,000 plus or minus a little bit on hernia And about $5,000 plus or minus a little bit on PRS. Speaker 200:29:53So nothing really has changed from an ASP Which implies just raw growth across the spectrum. It's not just big pieces or it's not just a thing here or there that's making this go. It's Speaker 400:30:10Great. Thanks for that. And I know you're aware that there's competitor out there that's looking for PMA labeling for specifically breast. So I'm just curious, what are your thoughts on PRS in that landscape? Do you think that occurs? Speaker 400:30:30How do you view that if that is coming in the next couple of years? Speaker 200:30:35We have our own program going, right. So We're in the process of completing some large animal models that are designed to get us into the IDE game. We are collecting a solid good sized amount of retrospective clinical data, which will allow us to retrofit or curve fit into whatever the situation that emerges with an FDA decision one way or the other. And we have a wide array of programs after that that include Anything from continued retrospective collection of data, surgeon engaged studies and IDE study. So we're in the game, Dave, and we intend to be part of that dialogue over time. Speaker 200:31:25Right now, we feel like it makes sense given the chaotic nature of this to figure out exactly what the best pathway is Based on how it breaks with an FDA decision, and what we've chosen to do is have all those Activities moving forward so that we can pick and choose from our menu whatever best fits what happens With the decision. Speaker 400:31:54Great. Thank you. Operator00:31:56Dave. Thank you. One moment please for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Kyle Rose of Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open. Speaker 700:32:14Hey, this is George on for Kyle. I have a couple of questions. So the first one concerning reps. So you noted that you have about 75 reps Currently, what how should we think about cadence in terms of rep adds towards the back half of 2023? And then maybe a little bit on like what territories you're looking to expand into? Speaker 200:32:40Sure. Thanks, George. This is Roberto here. So we as we said at the beginning of the year, our goal is to get to 75 to 80 reps by the end of the year. Obviously being at 75 reps today, it should not be that difficult for us to get to 80. Speaker 200:32:54Although, I will point out that As we bring in new reps, some of them will exit. So it's not just 5 that we may be needing to recruit to get to that 80. We've also talked about the fact that if we identify more than 80 reps that we feel like would be good fits here, we would be willing to go beyond the 80. So, we'll continue hiring at the same rate that we have so far, and could get beyond that 80 Before the end of the year, but we feel pretty confident about getting to pretty close to 80, if not a bit over. Yes. Speaker 200:33:29What I'll add to that too, George, is that of the 75 that we have now, I think approximately 7 or so have just been hired in the last week or so. So we were in the high 60s really for the bulk of the quarter And I think that speaks very strongly to the productivity that's capable here. And we very much look forward to having the 75 reps Be more impactful in the second half of the year. And as Roberto said, maybe even beyond, we're not going to really lay out where we're hiring the reps for competitive reasons. But it's generally where the 3 GPOs have strong footprints. Speaker 200:34:09It's almost all over the country at this point. So we're very optimistic that of the five factors, both rep productivity and the headcount are heading in the right direction Speaker 700:34:25Great. Awesome. And then just my other question would be on the long term Just kind of where are you at in terms of the rollout of that product? And then Because of the OVATEK based product, is that included in the current GPO distribution strategy or is that something that will help to be negotiated later? Speaker 200:34:49We've done a nice job of updating the contracts After we got the 510 clearance, we are in the process Rolling out the product to about 50 early users. We're about 2 weeks into that process And we really like what we're seeing so far. I think it's going to be a great contributor in the second half and beyond. And we should be in a position from an inventory perspective and an experience perspective to turn this wide open at some point in the Q3. So we look forward to strong contribution from PRS LTR almost immediately I would say. Operator00:35:45Thank you. George. One moment please for our next question. And we have a follow-up from Michael Sarcone of Jefferies. Your line is open. Speaker 300:36:02Hey, thanks for taking the follow-up. Just one last one for me. Really a question about 2024. So you mentioned it's still very early days on all fronts in the GPO contract, plus you're rolling out new products through 2023, plus you're building out your rep base through 2023. So when I look to 2024, you'll have the benefit of a full year of all 3 GPOs, a full year of that Larger rep base and then a full year of new product. Speaker 300:36:32So for 2023, your guidance implies $20,000,000 to $25,000,000 Of absolute dollar increase versus the prior year, is there any reason why 2024 shouldn't be higher than that On an absolute dollar increase basis, higher than that $20,000,000 to $25,000,000 you're expecting in 2023? Speaker 200:36:52So we haven't provided guidance on 2024 yet, but what I would add to what you described for the effects of 2024 Is that we may continue to hire reps in 2024 as well. So we'll continue to feel the growth From those reps that annualized in 2024, but also potential additional growth from new reps in 2024. So we think there's a lot of opportunity. We Talk about us being in the low single digits as far as new unit share for these markets. So there's a lot of possibility for us. Speaker 300:37:31Okay. Thank you. Operator00:37:35Thank you. And this will end the Q and A session for today's call. 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The company provides a portfolio of OviTex Reinforced Tissue Matrix (OviTex) products for hernia repair and abdominal wall reconstruction; and OviTex PRS Reinforced Tissue Matrix products to address the unmet needs in plastic and reconstructive surgery, as well as OviTex for Laparoscopic and Robotic Procedures, a sterile reinforced tissue matrix derived from ovine rumen with polypropylene fiber intended to be used in laparoscopic and robotic-assisted hernia surgical repairs. It markets its products through a single direct sales force, principally in the United States. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the TeleBio Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. And I would now like to turn the conference over to Louisa Smith from the Gilmartin Group. Speaker 100:00:24Thank you, Chris, and good afternoon, everyone. Earlier today, TeleBio released financial results for the Q2 2023. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website. Joining me on today's call are Tony Kotlush, President and Chief Executive Officer and Roberto Cuca, Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that during this conference call, the company may make projections and forward looking statements regarding future events. Speaker 100:00:56We encourage you to review the company's past and future filings with the SEC, including without limitation, The company's annual report on Form 10 ks and quarterly reports on Form 10 Qs, which identify the These factors may include, without limitation, statements regarding product development and pipeline opportunities, Product potential, the impact of various macroeconomic conditions, including the COVID-nineteen pandemic, recessionary concerns, banking instability and inflationary pressures, the regulatory environment, sales and marketing strategies, capital resources or operating performance. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Tony. Speaker 200:01:47Thank you, Louisa. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us today for our Q2 2023 earnings call. We are pleased to report another quarter of strong financial results and operational execution. As you will hear, we continue to deliver on our financial goals and advance our key initiatives. Total revenue for the Q2 was $14,500,000 representing growth of 39% year over year, which significantly outpaced the growth of the markets in which we sell. Speaker 200:02:20I am happy to report we are seeing an improving sales environment As procedure volume and elective surgery demand is up. In the second quarter, we saw strong hernia sales, which may reflect the first steps towards addressing the tens of thousands of procedures delayed during the COVID-nineteen pandemic. If so, that bodes well for a solid second half of continued high growth. On this afternoon's call, as always, I'll provide an update on the progress we are making with the key drivers of revenue and revenue growth that we refer to as the 5 factors. Then I'll ask Roberto to provide further color on our financial results before we open the line for your questions. Speaker 200:03:05Let me begin with GPO Access. Tela now has contracts with 3 national group purchasing organizations. These agreements streamline the process by which a surgeon can choose to use our OVATEX products by providing access right off the supply room shelf Rather than the surgeons having to go through an administratively burdensome utilization committee process, We recently entered into a 4 year contract extension with HealthTrust, which as you may recall was our first GPO. The original term of 3 years began in 2020, just as COVID-nineteen pandemic began impacting the healthcare system. Notwithstanding the significant headwinds, we were able to demonstrate the value of our products to the hospitals served by HealthTrust, which led to the extended contract term of this renewal. Speaker 200:03:59Our second GPO contract was with Premier, which became effective On October 1, 2022, as the 2nd largest GPO in the country, it granted us access to over 4,400 hospitals. We are pleased with the progress we've made ramping up Premier in Q2, and it is already an important contributor to our revenue performance. Our most recently signed 3rd GPO is structured as a dual source contract in the biosynthetic category. This means that we compete with only a single alternative supplier in this system, which is highly compliant with the contractual product offerings. These 3 GPO contracts together cover over 6,000 hospitals, providing significant access to our sales representatives. Speaker 200:04:46This leads us to 2 more of our revenue driving factors, sales force size and sales force productivity. GPO contracts give us access to hospitals across the country, but we can only convert this access into sales via representatives who can call on and educate the physicians in those hospitals. In order to capitalize on the figurative hunting license that contracts represent, We've been meaningfully expanding the size of our sales force we have in the field targeting those geographies with the greatest GPO opportunity. As of today, we have 75 sales reps on board against the year end target of 75 to 80 reps. We have continued to invest in the training of our sales force through our Playbook 90 program, so that they are comfortable representing all of our products in our portfolio. Speaker 200:05:36We continue to revise and improve our training system with the result that our most recent cohorts of hires have reached breakeven profitability in 6 Another important factor underlying revenues and their growth is our continued development of clinical data. The compelling results of our studies of Ovitex have played an important role in our ability to take share from older technologies. Surgeons are impressed with the exceptionally low recurrence rate of 2.6% that Ovitex exhibited in our BRAVO study compared to the double digit figures that competitive products show. We're continuously growing our data set and initiating studies to support physicians and patients in their consideration of OVA text. We also continue to enroll patients in our BRAVO-two study, which captures data on the effectiveness of OVA text when used in robotic procedures. Speaker 200:06:30As the use of surgical robotic systems in general surgery continues to grow And with 45% of Ovatek's herniated implanted robotically in the most recent quarter for which data are available, we expect That results from BRAVO-two study will be of great use to physicians and patients in making treatment decisions. In addition to collecting clinical data, we also study consumer behavior and interest in hernia treatment matters. In a study among consumers that we recently conducted, we found that there was significant concern over using permanent synthetic mesh and a strong desire for surgeon expertise in innovative more natural solutions. A highlight of the study showed that 77% of consumers who had a permanent plastic mesh repair would prefer a more natural repair option for subsequent hernia requiring surgery. Additionally, 95% of all respondents considered Important or very important for their doctor or surgeon to be current with top innovations in medical care. Speaker 200:07:37The results of this study are indicative of the critical role that patients serve in their health care decisions and are at the heart of TELUS' mission to optimize soft tissue restoration and preservation. The impressive set of data we've collected supports both patients' desire for a more natural repair product and encourages surgeon confidence to choose OvaTax in future surgeries. The last factor is our product portfolio. We strive to assemble a range of products that leverages our current call points to drive expansion in the soft tissue market. We do this through our internal R and D efforts and through external business development activities. Speaker 200:08:16We've already announced several new products in 2023, including 2 larger configurations of the OVATEX LTR products for use on ventral and incisional hernias and minimally invasive surgeries and 510 clearance for OVATEK's long term resorbable or LTR in plastic and reconstructive surgery. Tela is Committed to creating a broad portfolio that delivers next generation soft tissue preservation and restoration solutions and meets the varying needs of surgeons and patients. We look forward to announcing future portfolio offerings and developments as they become ready for commercialization. Continued execution of these five factors will drive meaningful sales growth and create value for the company and its owners, particularly and an improving procedure environment. We are highly optimistic about delivering a strong second half given where we are today. Speaker 200:09:11With that, I'll turn the call over to Roberto for more details on our Q3 financial results. Thanks, Tony. As Tony mentioned earlier, revenue for the Q2 increased 39% year over year and 22% sequentially over the 1st quarter to $14,500,000 During the Q2, OVERTEX revenue grew 43% year over year and PRS grew 31%. Gross margin was 70% for the Q2 and was driven by the cost of goods of product actually sold within the quarter as well as amounts reserved for expiration of inventory purchased within the quarter, whether or not sold within the quarter. This strong showing was driven by slightly lower than expected inventory purchases in the Q2 as well as our ongoing inventory management and dynamic inventory redeployment efforts. Speaker 200:10:02Sales and marketing expense was $14,600,000 in the Q2 of 2023 compared to $11,100,000 in the same period in 2022. The increase was mainly due to higher compensation costs as a result of the expansion of our commercial organization, higher travel and consulting General and administrative expense was $3,500,000 in the Q2 of 2023 compared to $3,600,000 in the same period in 2022. R and D expense was $2,500,000 in the Q2 of 2023 compared to $2,100,000 in the same period last year. Loss from operations was $10,400,000 in the Q2 of 2023 compared to $10,200,000 in the prior year period. Net loss was $10,800,000 in the Q2 of 2023 compared to $12,700,000 in the same period in 2022. Speaker 200:11:02We ended the Q2 with $65,300,000 in cash and cash equivalents after conducting a public offering in mid April. Regarding the remainder of 2023, we continue to expect full year revenues to be in the range of $60,000,000 to $65,000,000 representing growth of 45% I'll now turn the call back to Tony for closing remarks. Thanks, Roberto. First, I'd like to thank all on the Tele team who helped deliver another excellent quarter. We are thrilled with the strong start to 2023 and believe that our momentum will continue for the remainder of the year. Speaker 200:11:42The synergies of all five factors coming together lends itself to some exciting catalysts in the coming periods, and we believe we're in a position to drive top line growth, capture competitive market share and expand our portfolio with new soft tissue preservation and restoration technologies. As a result of the offering in April, our balance sheet is well suited to support our dynamic growth and strategic initiatives. I'll finish by simply saying we are still in the early days of a $1,000,000,000 plus market opportunity, but Operator00:12:34One moment please for our first question. And our first question will come from Michael Sarcone of Jefferies. Your line is open. Speaker 300:12:45Good afternoon and thanks for taking the question. Just to start, you talked about strong hernia sales And you mentioned that this could be the first step in addressing the backlog of procedures. So I guess, can you just give us an update on Where that backlog stands, maybe how you size it and the potential for that conversion to drive growth and maybe also comment on what kind of visibility You have there? Speaker 200:13:12Sure, Michael. This is Roberto. So the way we have calculated or estimated the backlog is we Have used market data on the total number of hernia procedures per period. So by quarter or month Pre COVID-nineteen, we mapped out the expected trajectory given that this is a population based Procedures, so there really shouldn't be much growth beyond the growth of population. And then we looked at the actual reported procedures Post the beginning of COVID-nineteen and essentially calculated the area between those two curves to estimate the backlog. Speaker 200:13:51We then checked our thinking and approach with a couple of hospital industry executives that we know and consult with on occasion Who said that they estimated things the same way, roughly 100,000 procedures. And as we've said in the past, you don't dig into or Cut down that backlog unless you're doing procedures at a rate higher than the pre COVID-nineteen procedure rate. So we don't think we're there yet, But we think that the procedure rate has gone up over more recent period. It's sort of the most recent couple of quarters We're beginning to at least slow down the rate of accretion into that backlog. Yes, Michael, our penetration is so low This is plenty of market for us to grow into, which we've demonstrated, our ability to do so, over the last couple of years In the COVID period, so increasing procedure volume will do nothing but help us and it's actually a benefit if this Backlog unwinds over a long period of time. Speaker 200:14:54It allows us to harvest that for the next couple of years, Which is advantageous for us. Speaker 300:15:03Thanks. And I guess just a quick follow-up on that one. Where do procedures stand today versus pre COVID level? Speaker 200:15:15So we estimated that about a year ago procedures were around 85% to pre COVID. We're guessing there's somewhere between 90% 95% of pre COVID levels now. Speaker 300:15:30Okay, thanks. And just one more for me and Operator00:15:32I'll hop back in the queue. Speaker 300:15:33So one of your competitors is working through some disruption. Can you talk about your ability to capitalize on this? And are you seeing more competitive account wins or more Vergen, given the disruption? Speaker 400:15:49Sure. Speaker 200:15:50Yes, I'll take that one, Michael. So, the product in question It's been around for a long time. It's what I would consider an old school, 1st generation biologic material. And I think most of the user base tends to skew a bit older. That's not to say it's 100%, but a bit older. Speaker 200:16:13And in terms of hernia procedures, the product is pretty much niched in the most complicated ab wall reconstructions. And then it's certainly used in plastic and reconstructive procedures as well. So the accounts We have found our spread across the U. S. And are quite patchy. Speaker 200:16:37So although The revenue volume is estimated to be about $40,000,000 between those two procedures. It is patchy and infrequent, right, when So we've benefited a little bit, I think, from the situation, but not all that much. On the hernia side, I think our product has the reputation of being a universal Hernia product, right. It's reinforced with a little bit of polymer suture, whether permanent or resorbable for reinforcement. 46% of our procedures are being done robotically right now, and 60% of our procedures are being done both robotically and laparoscopically. Speaker 200:17:26So we're being used across inguinals, hiatals, simple ventrals and complex ab wall. And I think these older generation surgeons that are more tied to 1st generation biologics, probably will reach For another pure biologic product that's older, before they reach for our product, given that our product is being known as a more broadly used Technology. So yes, we are picking up some here and there, but it's not going to be a big conversion. I We are actually marketing and functioning in a much wider piece of the market. So I think that's where we want to be. Speaker 200:18:08And the trade off of directing our reps to chase these other procedures versus sticking to our knitting and sticking to our plan It's a trade off that we evaluate in every territory as the situation comes up. Most of the time, our preference is to grow our business for the long haul for durability. And then keep in mind as well that when we get a situation where the product That's recalled is needed replacement. There has to be a match up that we have a contract, we have access and we have a rep there. And that just doesn't happen all the time given the size of our footprint right now. Speaker 200:18:46And again, chasing versus executing It is the way we think about it, Michael. Speaker 300:18:54Got it. That's really helpful. Thank you. Operator00:18:58Thank you. And one moment please for our next question. Our next question will come from Frank Pekkanen of Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 500:19:14Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I was hoping to start with 1 on GPOs. I think in previous calls you've talked about HealthTrust specific composition of revenue, I'm understanding it's going to be a little bit more challenging, but I was hoping you could talk about what kind of growth was driven from the 3 GPOs in aggregate versus growth outside of GPOs? Speaker 400:19:37Yes. So, Speaker 200:19:41I think from a percent of revenue perspective, we went from mid to high 30 from these GPOs. So the growth is stronger within the GPO footprint, Also approaching about 60%, I would say. But the real story is that we are executing across The entire universe, right. So our first priority is implementation into the new GPOs And really they're all 3 new at this point given the HealthTrust renewal. But we also have a really strong system and process for getting into non GPO IDNs and systems. Speaker 200:20:32So, we are active and doing very well in both sectors. I think we're going to see a pickup within this GPO organization since we're really early days in all three. And I think these implementations are going to take us through the rest of this year and maybe through the rest of next year and beyond. These are big systems. They're bureaucratic and the opportunity is quite large. Speaker 200:20:59So there's a lot for us to harvest here for the long haul as one of our five factors. But we've grown significantly from the 1 GPO just As measured from about a year ago to now. Speaker 500:21:16Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe in the back half of the year, growth expectations In the hernia versus PRS, I know that PRS had been outpacing hernia for a little bit, but it sounds like hernia has been a little bit stronger As of recently, so just trying to understand how you guys are thinking about growth from hernia versus PRS as you close out the year? Speaker 200:21:38Sure. So, OVAX grew 43% year over year, PRS grew 31% year over year. A lot of that though that's lower growth number from PRS had to do with last year's Q2. So, 2nd quarter revenues for PRS last year were $3,400,000 which was the highest PRS quarter of the year, Just for ins and outs reasons. So it was a tough comp on the growth perspective. Speaker 200:22:08So we do expect that notwithstanding that, that it's likely that PRS will return to being larger grower certainly for the year overall And likely for the second half. Both and then last one. Speaker 500:22:24Sorry, go ahead, Tony. Speaker 200:22:26I actually said both are going to be strong, just to put a point on it. Speaker 500:22:31Perfect. And then last one for me, on the gross margin, good to see that hit 70%, how should we be thinking about gross margin profile for the back half of the year? Speaker 200:22:39So, as we pointed out, gross margin will bump around So when we build inventory, when we buy any inventory actually, we take a charge reserve For that purchased inventory in the quarter in which we buy it for all potential expiration or destruction of the product subsequent to that quarter. So the 2 quarters of this year have been a little bit smoother as far as the amount of inventory that we ordered as between them, But we do expect some bumping up and down. So it's going to be somewhere between the 66% that we saw in the Q1 and the 70% that we achieved in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 500:23:22Okay, sounds good. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on all the progress. Operator00:23:27Thank you. One moment please for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Matt O'Brien of Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Speaker 600:23:41Hey, this is Phil on for Mac. Congrats on the great quarter and thanks for taking our questions. For starters, I guess as it relates to guidance, Can you help us understand the decision to keep the range this wide? I think it implies growth of 47% to about 70% in the back half. So just help us understand what gives you gets you to the top and bottom of that range? Speaker 500:24:04Sure. Speaker 200:24:07It is a wider range for half the year, but there is still some uncertainty around the COVID-nineteen and its impact on the quarters, and frankly the steps up that we'll be taking in the 3rd and 4th quarters to achieve that 60 to 65 range Reasonably large, and you could see some lagging over from the 3rd to the 4th quarter or some acceleration for the 4th to the 3rd. So, to give ourselves room, we've just kept it at the same range. Speaker 600:24:36That's helpful. And I guess a multi partner here on GTO that As I think about HealthTrust and how COVID impacted your ability to penetrate into that account during that first contract with them versus where you With that account now, where do you think penetration currently stands and where do you think it can get to? Is that going to be a meaningful tailwind still Just on that first GPO and then any color on the 3rd GPO, which I believe started April 1. Speaker 200:25:06So, Phil, I would say we're very early days in terms of penetration even with HealthTrust, right. So During the COVID period, we probably only had, I don't know, 16, 18 months of implementation time, Given the ups and downs with the pandemic and we still got to about 30% and 35%, thirty 6% of revenue coming out of HealthTrust. HealthTrust is made up of a whole bunch of systems known as shareholders. We have really only implemented partially into the HCA component of HealthTrust. There are many other shareholders and systems under HealthTrust that we haven't really touched yet. Speaker 200:25:54So I think with a 4 year run, there's a heck of a lot of ceiling for us to work with there, not just In HCA component of HealthTrust, but in all the others as well, whether it's Tennant, Steward, All the rest of the bigs that are a part of HealthTrust. So I feel like that's going to be a great source of growth for us. The 3rd GPO has essentially gone from nothing to triple roughly in terms of raw dollars And we really didn't start implementing there until April or so, which was by their instruction and design. So there is a heck of a lot of room for us to grow in the 3rd GPO as well. We are just starting out there. Speaker 200:26:43And then on the Premier side, that's already become our 2nd largest source of revenue. And that's coming along very nicely and we're in the very early stages. We are very underpenetrated in Premier, but that's grown very, very well since the end of last year. So I think we're very early days on all fronts And you're going to see the GPO contribution in raw dollars shoot up. It may shoot up A little slower than the growth rate perhaps given the fact that we're really good at executing at IDNs and systems that aren't part of GPOs. Speaker 200:27:26But It's a lot for us to work with and we're very bullish and optimistic that that's a strong piece of what we're going to do here and we're putting reps in the right places Operator00:27:46One moment please for our next question. Our next question will come from David Turkaly of JMP Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 300:28:00Hey, good evening. Speaker 400:28:03Tony, I just wonder if you might make a comment on trends you've seen in the pricing ASPs on either side of the business And or mix from either larger sheets or anything like that that might have contributed to the hernia side being as strong as it was? Speaker 200:28:21Yes. Hernie aside was volume. We have not taken a price increase since we've rolled these products out. Our strategy is to offer a tremendous value proposition with superb clinical data and performance for patients and a good value for systems. We believe this is the right pathway until we have a very complete array of GPOs. Speaker 200:28:47There's some more that we want to engage with and win contracts. So we're going to keep our pricing pretty much where it is. And then the discounting that we're showing at the GPOs isn't crippling either. We've priced the product very fair from a list price level and cost savings that are doable by the GPO I do not require huge discounting and everyone's happy. So we're going to stick with that for now. Speaker 200:29:18I think for us it's top line growth. It's getting access, it's validating our technology and it's a lot and it's driving the clinical data into situations where people are anxious to listen to us. We think that's the best approach for now. It doesn't mean we might not take some price increase in the future, but for now our ASPs have been Pretty steady. And we're still hovering around $3,000 plus or minus a little bit on hernia And about $5,000 plus or minus a little bit on PRS. Speaker 200:29:53So nothing really has changed from an ASP Which implies just raw growth across the spectrum. It's not just big pieces or it's not just a thing here or there that's making this go. It's Speaker 400:30:10Great. Thanks for that. And I know you're aware that there's competitor out there that's looking for PMA labeling for specifically breast. So I'm just curious, what are your thoughts on PRS in that landscape? Do you think that occurs? Speaker 400:30:30How do you view that if that is coming in the next couple of years? Speaker 200:30:35We have our own program going, right. So We're in the process of completing some large animal models that are designed to get us into the IDE game. We are collecting a solid good sized amount of retrospective clinical data, which will allow us to retrofit or curve fit into whatever the situation that emerges with an FDA decision one way or the other. And we have a wide array of programs after that that include Anything from continued retrospective collection of data, surgeon engaged studies and IDE study. So we're in the game, Dave, and we intend to be part of that dialogue over time. Speaker 200:31:25Right now, we feel like it makes sense given the chaotic nature of this to figure out exactly what the best pathway is Based on how it breaks with an FDA decision, and what we've chosen to do is have all those Activities moving forward so that we can pick and choose from our menu whatever best fits what happens With the decision. Speaker 400:31:54Great. Thank you. Operator00:31:56Dave. Thank you. One moment please for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Kyle Rose of Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open. Speaker 700:32:14Hey, this is George on for Kyle. I have a couple of questions. So the first one concerning reps. So you noted that you have about 75 reps Currently, what how should we think about cadence in terms of rep adds towards the back half of 2023? And then maybe a little bit on like what territories you're looking to expand into? Speaker 200:32:40Sure. Thanks, George. This is Roberto here. So we as we said at the beginning of the year, our goal is to get to 75 to 80 reps by the end of the year. Obviously being at 75 reps today, it should not be that difficult for us to get to 80. Speaker 200:32:54Although, I will point out that As we bring in new reps, some of them will exit. So it's not just 5 that we may be needing to recruit to get to that 80. We've also talked about the fact that if we identify more than 80 reps that we feel like would be good fits here, we would be willing to go beyond the 80. So, we'll continue hiring at the same rate that we have so far, and could get beyond that 80 Before the end of the year, but we feel pretty confident about getting to pretty close to 80, if not a bit over. Yes. Speaker 200:33:29What I'll add to that too, George, is that of the 75 that we have now, I think approximately 7 or so have just been hired in the last week or so. So we were in the high 60s really for the bulk of the quarter And I think that speaks very strongly to the productivity that's capable here. And we very much look forward to having the 75 reps Be more impactful in the second half of the year. And as Roberto said, maybe even beyond, we're not going to really lay out where we're hiring the reps for competitive reasons. But it's generally where the 3 GPOs have strong footprints. Speaker 200:34:09It's almost all over the country at this point. So we're very optimistic that of the five factors, both rep productivity and the headcount are heading in the right direction Speaker 700:34:25Great. Awesome. And then just my other question would be on the long term Just kind of where are you at in terms of the rollout of that product? And then Because of the OVATEK based product, is that included in the current GPO distribution strategy or is that something that will help to be negotiated later? Speaker 200:34:49We've done a nice job of updating the contracts After we got the 510 clearance, we are in the process Rolling out the product to about 50 early users. We're about 2 weeks into that process And we really like what we're seeing so far. I think it's going to be a great contributor in the second half and beyond. And we should be in a position from an inventory perspective and an experience perspective to turn this wide open at some point in the Q3. So we look forward to strong contribution from PRS LTR almost immediately I would say. Operator00:35:45Thank you. George. One moment please for our next question. And we have a follow-up from Michael Sarcone of Jefferies. Your line is open. Speaker 300:36:02Hey, thanks for taking the follow-up. Just one last one for me. Really a question about 2024. So you mentioned it's still very early days on all fronts in the GPO contract, plus you're rolling out new products through 2023, plus you're building out your rep base through 2023. So when I look to 2024, you'll have the benefit of a full year of all 3 GPOs, a full year of that Larger rep base and then a full year of new product. Speaker 300:36:32So for 2023, your guidance implies $20,000,000 to $25,000,000 Of absolute dollar increase versus the prior year, is there any reason why 2024 shouldn't be higher than that On an absolute dollar increase basis, higher than that $20,000,000 to $25,000,000 you're expecting in 2023? Speaker 200:36:52So we haven't provided guidance on 2024 yet, but what I would add to what you described for the effects of 2024 Is that we may continue to hire reps in 2024 as well. So we'll continue to feel the growth From those reps that annualized in 2024, but also potential additional growth from new reps in 2024. So we think there's a lot of opportunity. We Talk about us being in the low single digits as far as new unit share for these markets. So there's a lot of possibility for us. Speaker 300:37:31Okay. Thank you. Operator00:37:35Thank you. And this will end the Q and A session for today's call. I would now like to turn the conference back to Tony Kopisch for closingRead morePowered by