Trade Desk Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 9, 2023

There are 12 speakers on the call.

Operator

Welcome to The Trade Desk Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Chris Toth.

Operator

Please proceed.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Hello, and good afternoon to everyone. Welcome to The Trade Desk Q2 2023 Earnings Conference Call.

Speaker 2

On the

Speaker 1

call today are Founder and CEO, Jeff Green and Chief Financial Officer, Laura Schenkind. A copy of our earnings press release can be found on our website at thetradedest.com in the Investor Relations section. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that except for historical information, some of the discussion and our responses in Q and A may contain forward looking statements, which are dependent upon certain risks and uncertainties. These forward looking statements represent our belief and assumptions only as of the date such statements are made. Actual results may vary significantly and we expressly assume no obligations to update any of our forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Should any of our beliefs or assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual financial results could differ materially from our projections or those implied by these forward looking statements. I encourage you to refer to the risk factors referenced in our press release and included in our most recent SEC filings. In addition to reporting our GAAP financial results, we present supplemental non GAAP financial data. A reconciliation of the GAAP to non GAAP measures Can be found in our earnings press release. We believe that providing non GAAP measures combined with our GAAP results provide a more meaningful representation of the company's operational performance.

Speaker 1

With that, I will now turn the call over to Founder and CEO, Jeff Green. Jeff?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Chris, and thank you all for joining us today. As you've seen from our press release, we posted very strong growth in the Q2. We reported revenue of $464,000,000 growing 23% compared with last year. This also represents an acceleration in our growth rate compared with the Q1. And just like the last few quarters, we continue to Significantly outperformed the digital advertising industry.

Speaker 2

What's particularly notable about our performance is that most advertisers are still dealing with some degree of uncertainty in their business. Even though certain macro indicators are improving, There is still a sense from many advertisers that we are in an unpredictable environment. For them, it's hard to dismiss what we've been through over the last 2 to 3 years With the global pandemic, rampant inflation, supply chain crises and banking system uncertainty and of course, Global rebalancing. None of these market dynamics have been very predictable the last few years. And this year, like the last few, has similarly had lots of never before macro events.

Speaker 2

So while many indicators and advertiser sentiments are improving, There's also a sense that it's more difficult than ever to predict what's coming next. But in this environment, marketers have learned that data driven precision can bring a sense of Certainty and reliability to their advertising efforts. Because of the innovations we brought to market in areas such as retail media, CTV, Identity and data advertisers have a clearer sense than ever of the performance and impact of their ad campaigns. And with Kokai, we are delivering even more innovation, all in service of helping advertisers drive precision, relevance and certainty in everything they do. As a result, we are winning more business with both new and existing customers.

Speaker 2

We are signing more multi year joint business plans or JVPs with leading agencies and brands representing spend projections in future years well into the 1,000,000,000 of dollars. Our relative outperformance over the last few quarters means we have gained more market share than In any other period in our company's history, advertisers have become more deliberate with their spend and have increasingly gravitated to our platform. And as they understand more about the power of programmatic, they are choosing the objectivity and performance of our platform Over the murkiness of walled gardens more than ever before. Even as we continue to grow and scale around the world, we see no deviation from our 95 I was at the Cannes Advertising Festival a few weeks ago and I could have filled my calendar Several times over with brand CMOs, agency leaders and CEOs of our key partners, all of whom want to understand how we can work more closely together. Every year demand for the value that we deliver continues to grow.

Speaker 2

Perhaps what's most interesting right now It's how marketers are seeking a sense of certainty in an uncertain environment. Much of the product rollouts and partnership growth we've seen this year It's because we're giving our clients certainty and reliability that they can't get elsewhere. This shows up All over our client base and all over our platform. But I'd like to talk today about a few places where this certainty and reliability is really driving our relative outperformance, particularly in Retail Media, CTV and Identity. By discussing these 3, I believe it will provide some insight as to why we continue to outperform the market, Why I believe we'll continue to outperform the market and why we continue to invest in our platform with all the innovations coming from Kokai.

Speaker 2

So first, let me talk about Retail Media, which has become one of the fastest growing areas of our business. Much like CTV, our rapid growth in Retail Media starts With our focus on objectivity, retailers know we're only here to serve advertisers and to drive more precision and efficacy in ad campaigns. We don't compete with them. And like all of our partners, retailers know we are careful and objective stewards of their data. As you know, Walmart was one of the first early major retailers to understand the power of their data and to help advertisers understand and measure the connection between campaign spend and actual consumer purchases.

Speaker 2

For many advertisers, there's no clearer measurement of performance than that. You can look at all kinds of traditional marketing KPIs, but there is nothing more powerful than knowing that a consumer bought your product because of the ad you serve and then using that data to improve marketing spend in the future. One of the great recent examples of this is Fruit of the Loom. Working with their agency, GSD and M, Fruta del Loom wanted to reach new and existing customers to increase sales with a back to school promotion. They were targeting a 200% return on ad spend or ROAS.

Speaker 2

Working with the Walmart DSP and The Trade Desk, They were able to predict audiences with much more precision and were able to understand in real time How ads in different channels were performing. They could then shift campaign dollars to those channels that were actually driving consumer purchases. This clear line of sight helped Fruit of the Loom vastly exceed their campaign goals, delivering a 1200% return on ad spend among existing customers and more than 1,000 percent ROAS with new customers. Eric Mahoney is Fruit of the Loom's Digital Marketing Manager. He said and I quote, historically we've done a really good job of reaching our brand purchasers.

Speaker 2

But working with the Walmart DSP allowed us to reach that new consumer through predictive audience segments. We could not have achieved these results without Walmart DSP and The Trade Desk. He also said that working with The Trade Desk It's like putting on a fresh pair of underwear. Of all the accolades we've received over the years, that is definitely one of my favorites ever. The gravitational pull of retail media is not limited to the U.

Speaker 2

S. Retailers around the world are working with The Trade Desk in different ways to unleash the power of their data to help advertisers bring more value to their campaigns. In Singapore, we partner with FairPrice, The largest grocery chain there with 5 70 stores serving 90% of the country's population. One of the first brands to leverage fair price shopper data on our platform was Coca Cola, who wanted to reach customers during the festive Lunar New Year season. They also wanted to be able to measure the performance of low funnel marketing outreach across multiple channels, including OTT, audio, Digital out of home and of course open Internet display.

Speaker 2

The campaign tapped into FairPrice's audience segments via our platform, Targeting fair price customers who have purchased Coke or other Coke products over the past 1 to 3 months. They were able to target seasonal shoppers who purchase best in products and optimize in real time to the news and lifestyle channels that delivered the best results. With their agency, Essence Mediacom, Coke was able to drive 189% uplift in sales They were also able to measure consumer reaction in a range of new ways, including the time it takes for a consumer to buy a product Following different kinds of ad exposures, audience engagement from different channels and cart values of first time and repeat buyers. The retail media opportunity is also growing exponentially for us in Europe. In recent quarters, we've talked about our partnerships with leading retailers such as Ocado And just a few weeks ago, we announced a partnership with Europe's largest retail group, Schwartz, which includes major brands such as Kauffman and Lidl.

Speaker 2

From an advertising perspective, Retail Media is something that's really taken off over the last 2 years. It's no coincidence that the growing interest in retail media coincides with growing advertiser focus on With retail media, advertisers can start with precise authenticated data, whether that data is based on purchase history or loyalty data. From there, the advertiser can target based on what they know and then do more accurate data driven modeling to expand targeting segments with greater precision. Some of the same dynamics are behind the rapid growth of CTV advertising. As we have all seen in recent weeks, There is a ton of focus right now on the business model of TV.

Speaker 2

What is the future of the linear TV model and how does the TV industry I believe the answer will come in fully exploring the authenticator data that sits at the core of the CTV ecosystem, which is something that today's leading media companies are exploring. For the past couple of years, CTV has been one of our fastest growing channels at scale. There are a range of reasons for that. Fundamentally, video remains the most effective way for brands to influence the hearts and minds of consumers. And with CTV, brands can apply data to their TV campaigns and measure with much more precision the effectiveness of every ad dollar.

Speaker 2

And much like retail, advertisers value the authenticated audiences that come with CTV. Pretty much every streaming TV Viewer is logged in with an e mail address. For advertisers, this means more certainty. It also creates a new starting point centered on data. These dual forces of retail and CTV are truly bringing the power of data driven decisioning home for advertisers and it is accelerating their shift to programmatic on our platform.

Speaker 2

Whereas in the early years of programmatic, We were looking to find ways to affix data to campaigns. Today, we use data as a starting point for campaigns. Instead of hunting for ad opportunities with data, The Trade Desk and marketers are starting with data to know which media opportunities we should hunt for. It's a different dynamic and it's one that's become more prominent as advertisers seek more certainty in an uncertain and unpredictable environment. As I said, media companies generally understand the value of authenticated user data and this is a major reason why the top streaming companies in the U.

Speaker 2

S. Have pretty much all integrated with UID2 or are planning to. The latest was Warner Bros. Discovery, who announced at CAN that they will integrate UID2 across all of their streaming properties, including Max and Discovery Plus. The broad embrace of UID2 across the CTV ecosystem has been driven in part by a key economic factor.

Speaker 2

Streaming leaders need to unleash the value of their authenticated data for advertisers in order to create as much precision and relevance as possible, thereby maximizing their CPMs. In order for the streaming business model to thrive And for media companies to keep pace in the content arms race, they need to maximize advertising revenue. As we have seen with every streaming platform launching an ad supported service, a subscription based approach is not enough. And the only way to maximize advertising revenue is to increase precision and relevance. With UID2, the advertiser can start With authenticated data, enrich that with their own and third party data and then where they can find the right relevant audience, They will pay a meaningfully higher price.

Speaker 2

As Tim Sims outlined during our Investor Day, where advertisers are able to bid with certainty Based on relevance and precision, the value of each impression increases significantly, generally exponentially. Ultimately, this is how we will answer some of the vexing questions that have been swirling around the TV industry recently. And while we are still in the early days of the CTV advertising revolution, I'm confident That emerging innovations on our platform such as a forward market for CTV advertising will only accelerate advertisers' ability and appetite to fund this amazing new golden age of TV. It's also worth pointing out that this is an increasingly global trend. At TAM this year, for example, we announced a new partnership with RTL, one of the largest TAM European Media Companies.

Speaker 2

Through this partnership, our international advertisers will have exclusive programmatic access to RTL's addressable linear and connected TV inventory. We are starting with inventory across Germany, Spain, France and Austria with more European markets to follow soon. This represents our most significant step yet into the European CTV market. It's also indicative of how the major European media companies are keeping pace with changing viewer preferences and advertiser demand As many of you have seen, We had a lot to say about retail and CTV during our recent Kokai launch. And I'd just like to take a moment to put that in perspective.

Speaker 2

Because as advertisers increasingly prioritize CTV and retail, it's critical that we continue to innovate in our platform so that we surface value for our users as intuitively as possible. One way Kokai accomplishes this We launched the Retail Sales Index. The RSI helps advertisers understand the impact of their retail media spend across multiple retailers at once. In this way, we are massively reducing the complexity of measuring ad campaigns that run across Multiple retail datasets. Now advertisers can understand which retail environments perform better at different times In which channels for which kinds of creatives, all in one place.

Speaker 2

And in doing so, We are providing the level of objectivity and measurement from the bottom of the funnel all the way to the top that is simply not possible within a walled garden. In addition to that, we also announced a few pioneering retailers who are making retail measurement available for free in our platform If the advertiser has activated their retail data for targeting. These retailers include Walgreens, Dollar General and Albertsons. This is a major step forward in bringing the full value of retail media to bear in service of greater precision and certainty. In the CTV space, we launched the TV Quality Index or TVQI.

Speaker 2

As the CTV advertising market has multiplied in terms of inventory, There are some who would have you believe that a piece of user generated content has the same quality in the eyes of the viewer as professionally produced content or live sports. Yes, I know there are some UGC influencers who have millions of followers that some brands may target from time to time, But that's a very small slice of UGC. The vast bulk of it is very unattractive and sometimes even unsafe The TVQI helps advertisers understand the value of the impressions they are buying In the context of the quality of the content those impressions are served against, the index shows that for every 10 point Improvement in quality, there is a 15 point improvement in conversion rates. Sometimes it's even higher than that. And for our own campaigns for The Trade Desk, in the Q2 of this year, as we were beta testing PBQI, We found that a 19 point increase in the index score resulted in a 50 point improvement in our conversion rate.

Speaker 2

If you're a marketing leader, these are substantial performance improvements. I mentioned those two elements of Kokai Because they're important to understand in the context of CTV and Retailer, as more advertisers gravitate to CTV and Retail Because they offer more certainty in starting advertising campaigns based on authenticated audience data, These Kokai innovations provide more certainty through the course of the campaign in terms of measurement and performance optimization. Of course, There are many other aspects of Kokai that we unveiled on 66, some of which are live and many of which we will be launching in the next few months. These indexes and other innovations, especially around the application of AI across our platform, are helping us surface value more intuitively to advertisers. We are revamping our U.

Speaker 2

S. So that the campaign setup and optimization experience I'd like to end on this point, Because I think it's important to reiterate that there are many things we do at The Trade Desk that are not in our immediate business interest. UID2, for example, is an innovation we devised about 3 years ago and promptly gave it away to the industry. We're seeing broad adoption across the data and inventory ecosystems of the open Internet and accelerating use by advertisers. In many ways, the industry is looking at innovations like UID2 as a core element of the flight to certainty That is driving a lot of advertiser action today.

Speaker 2

If an advertiser has certainty that they are reaching the right person across all channels, They will prioritize that ad buy. CTV and retail are major advancements in this regard, But UID2 is a major building block of this new cross channel Identity Fabric 2. This is particularly important As there has recently been a lot of speculation regarding the potential demise of third party cookies in Chrome in early 2024. A lot of the speculation reminds me of the frenzy in 2017 when Safari deprecated cookies or more recently in 2021 When Apple made its IDFA changes, each time I have stated that none of this will have a significant material effect on our business, And that was true. I've said many times that I'm not sure that it's in Google's best interest to get rid of 3rd party cookies Because of the harmful impact it will likely have on publishers that have not implemented a strong identity strategy.

Speaker 2

But while it matters a lot to many browser based publishers, in the long run, it really doesn't matter that much to us. Advertisers will increasingly select ad opportunities where they can act with certainty and leverage their own data. That's why I've spent so much time today talking about CTV, retail and UID2 as they have become essential building blocks of the open Internet. On the supply side, we developed OpenPath to provide our clients with a direct transparent path to inventory. This is just the latest effort by The Trade Desk to improve supply side transparency and objectivity.

Speaker 2

And we now have thousands of destinations across the open Internet integrating with OpenPath. And when advertisers see an OpenPath Channel to inventory, they are more likely to select it versus the 8 to 10 alternative paths to that same impression because there's more certainty. And now integrating with UID2, OpenPath or any number of other innovations Where offerings on our platform is easier than ever with Kokai. We believe that to truly optimize the value of the open Internet, There are many ways in which the industry needs to innovate together, so we can provide advertisers as an ecosystem with more certainty, transparency and objectivity. In recent weeks, we've heard even more about the alleged dubious behavior of walled gardens, whether it's from the European Commission or Independent Research Reports.

Speaker 2

Advertisers and media companies are increasingly aware that they need to work with Technology partners who represent their interests, not conflicts of interest. As a result, advertising dollars are shifting to our platform, and we will continue to invest in our platform and push the industry to create even more value for advertisers on the open Internet. Our recent outperformance is not a temporary blip. I believe it is the start of a reassessment of the value of the Internet, particularly from an advertiser's perspective, and I could not be more excited about the growth opportunity that is in front of us in the years ahead as a result. And with that, I'll hand it over to Laura to cover our financials.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Jeff, and good afternoon, everyone. For nearly the past 10 years, I've experienced firsthand all of the incredible work from The Trade Desk teams around the world that produce our outstanding performance that have enabled us to manage the right balance between strong growth and significant profitability. I'm proud to present our results today and going forward. With that, on to the numbers. As you've seen in our results, Q2 was a strong quarter.

Speaker 3

Revenue was $464,000,000 representing growth of 23% year over year, accelerating from the prior quarter. Excluding U. S. Political election spend, which represented a low single digit percent of spend in Q2 2022. Our revenue growth rate in Q2 of this year was about 24.5% on a year over year basis.

Speaker 3

Visibility and advertiser sentiment continued to improve throughout the quarter and we continue to gain share as marketers increasingly focus their investments on areas where data is deployed effectively, where AI and decisioning produce high ROI and where results are measurable and transparent. Our growth continued to be driven by the shift of budgets to connected TV and increasing use of retail data. Because of our objectivity and our connectivity to nearly every major CTV content provider, our platform is the most eligible for the tidal wave of demand as it In retail media, many of the largest retailers around the world are now our partners And more and more brands and agencies are taking advantage of this powerful data in their campaigns. We also continue to benefit from the trust we've built with our clients, Launching innovative products in the interest of the demand side, paving cleaner paths to supply and cultivating industry wide support During the Q2, growth was broad based across channels, verticals and regions. CTV led our growth from a scaled channel perspective once again.

Speaker 3

We saw strong momentum again in Retail Media And with the launch of Kokai in early June, we are well positioned for the second half of the year and twenty twenty four As visibility and advertiser sentiment improve. With the strong top line performance in Q2, we generated approximately $180,000,000 in EBITDA or about 39 percent of revenue. When we outperform on the top line, we often see that outperformance throughout all our financial statements, as was the case again in Q2. This outperformance led to free cash flow of $119,000,000 in Q2. Our unique ability to generate meaningfully positive EBITDA and cash flow continues to put us in a strong position as we look ahead and invest in areas of the business that will drive our growth in the years to come.

Speaker 3

This is an area I'm intently focused on, making certain that our productivity and efficiency remains Best in class as we scale, as we manage both industry leading growth and significant profitability. I believe this is a critical factor to our success in the next phase of growth. From a scale channel perspective, CTV by a wide margin led our growth again during the quarter. In Q2, video, which includes CTV, Represented a mid-40s percentage share of our business and continues to grow as a percentage of our mix. Mobile represented a mid-30s percentage share of spend during the quarter.

Speaker 3

Display continued to represent a low double digit percent share of our business and audio represented around 5%. Geographically, North America represented about 88% of our business in Q2 and international represented about 12%. We are pleased that international growth slightly outpaced North America for the Q2 in a row. Looking ahead, we see significant opportunities to In terms of the verticals that represent at least 1% of our spend, Travel more than doubled compared with a year ago as the sector continues to recover. Automotive was strong once again with growth accelerating each month during the quarter due to share gains and We also saw strong performance in Home and Garden and Food and Beverage, while shopping and business were below the average.

Speaker 3

We continue to believe there is still opportunity for us to gain share in most of our verticals. Turning now to expenses. Excluding stock based compensation, operating expenses in Q2 were $305,000,000 up 22% year over year. There are ample opportunities to achieve significantly more leverage within our operating expenses. However, our primary objective remains on growing spend on our platform and grabbing land.

Speaker 3

During the Q2, we continued to invest in our team, our platform and our infrastructure to support sustained growth. The year over year increase in operating expenses, excluding stock based compensation, included realized costs from our 2022 hiring ramp, Infrastructure Investments and Return to Office Expenses. Because we have responsibly managed headcount and operating expenses over the last few years, We're in a strong position to continue innovating for clients, growing our teams and widening the distance between us and our competitors. Income tax expense was $27,000,000 for the 2nd quarter, driven primarily by our pre tax profitability and non deductible stock based compensation. Adjusted net income was $139,000,000 or $0.28 per fully diluted share.

Speaker 3

Net cash provided by operating was $128,000,000 for Q2 and free cash flow was $119,000,000 DSOs exiting the quarter were 92 days, up about one day from a year ago. DPOs were 76 days, up about 3 days from a year ago. In Q2, via our share repurchase program, we repurchased and retired 595,000 shares for an aggregate repurchase amount of 44,000,000 We exited the quarter with a strong cash and liquidity position. Cash, cash equivalents and short term investments ended the quarter at 1,400,000,000 We have no debt on the balance sheet. Turning to our outlook for the Q3.

Speaker 3

While macro conditions remain uncertain, visibility has improved slightly since the beginning of the year. We estimate Q3 revenue to be at least $485,000,000 which would represent growth of 23% on a year over year basis. Excluding U. S. Political election spend, which represented a low single digit percent of spend in Q3 2022, our estimated revenue growth rate in Q3 of this year Would be about 25% on a year over year basis.

Speaker 3

We estimate adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $185,000,000 in Q3. In closing, we're extremely pleased with our strong performance in the first half of the year. I've always seen the immense opportunity this company has and frankly that Opportunity has never been clearer than it is today. We have a large and growing addressable market in front of us. We have a business model that's proven to generate strong top line growth In addition to significant profitability and cash flow, with growth drivers including CTV, Retail Media, our international business, a strong identity strategy, A 2024 U.

Speaker 3

S. Election year cycle and a significant product upgrade with Kokai among others, we remain highly optimistic about our As we move through the second half of twenty twenty three and into 2024. That concludes our prepared remarks. And with that, operator, let's open up the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. The first question comes from shampatil from SIG. Please proceed.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys. Congrats on another strong performance. I had a 2 part question. First for Jeff, Could you provide your thoughts on the macro and the current conditions and also your initial thoughts on next year on 2024? And then Laura, can you talk about how you're thinking about investments and expenses in the back half of this year, but Also next year as well.

Speaker 4

Thank you guys.

Speaker 2

Thanks for the question, Shyam, and great to hear from you. I'll go first and then I'll just hand it over to Lorne to talk about investments and expenses. So it's not news to anybody to hear that the last 2 or 3 years have been A few years of uncertainty and unpredictability for most advertisers and most of the Fortune 500. As a result, I'm extremely excited by the change in sentiment that we've seen in Q2 and see already in Q3, Where CMOs are doubling down on what's driving growth, there's an understanding, of course, that the markets have begun to recover And there is more certainty than they've had in the past, but they've also come to rely on data driven advertising during that time of uncertainty As a place for certainty and for results, so we're seeing lots of shifts due to what they've experienced in the last few years In CTV and then of course this massive secular tailwind that comes from retail data as well. As I said before, I believe ultimately the shape of the Internet changes dramatically as a result of CTV and Retail Media.

Speaker 2

And then of course, we've also seen some amazing results as a result of UID2 adoption. You might have caught during the prepared remarks that Warner Brothers was kind of the last of the U. S. Independent CTV players To adopt UID2, so now in a way UID2 is has the full collection here in the United States and that has become The common currency to monetize CTV in the ad environments, we expect that trend to continue and we're seeing more and more of that. The second part of your question for me, 2024 is looking like the tidal wave of opportunity That is both daunting as well as just massive in terms of what an incredible Chance, this is for us to once again grab land.

Speaker 2

So let me first just talk about some of the backdrop For 2024, so there's been a lot of pressure on Google over the last few years as it relates to antitrust as well as privacy. Of course, there's a balance between those 2 that a few years ago, there was a lot more pressure on the privacy side of that. Today, there's a lot more pressure on the antitrust side of that, which we think overall makes the market a bit more fair and makes it easier to predict Google's decisions, it also makes it so that they're undoubtedly going slower and that creates opportunity for us to once again grab land. I have said over and over again that linear television is not going to be a steady decline. Excuse me, it ends with an explosion.

Speaker 2

It's going to have a pretty steady then accelerating decay. And then there's a point where it stops being worth it for anybody to operate in the space. You kind of got a glimpse of this when Bob Iger was saying 3 weeks ago on CNBC that he's unsure about ABC's Future and their linear business model being broken, but of course, that streaming and the studios are very important to the future of the business. That business model is really talking about legacy linear and broadcast television. And that of course the future is streaming That represents one of the many opportunities for us in 2024.

Speaker 2

Now as our opportunity to demonstrate the power of positioning, which is really what our brand new product release Kokai is all about. We also have some major advances going into next year as it relates to the forward market. But when you add CTV, Retail Media, Kokai, UID2, OpenPath, international opportunities, political, The list goes on and on. Of course, Disney announced today that they'll roll out ad supported models internationally For Disney plus we think that's one of many opportunities around the world for us as it relates to CTV. So the secular tailwinds just keep piling up, but very excited about all that.

Speaker 2

I'll turn it over to Laura to talk about investments and expenses.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Jeff and Sean. Thanks for the question. In terms of our investments for the second half of twenty twenty three and going into 2024, I'll start off just the big picture and then get into So just always remind myself that we've got the great luxury of high growth profitability and cash flow, And we've been responsibly managing our headcount, OpEx growth and investments for many years now. So in the first Half of twenty twenty three, we grew revenue in the 20% range, and we just guided to continued growth acceleration revenue when you exclude U. S.

Speaker 3

Election spend that we saw in the same period in 2022. So from my perspective, we're in an enviable position, While many of our other peers have struggled. So when I look out at the rest of 2023, I just look at how we're being very deliberate in our investments and in our hiring, We still expect headcount to grow this year, but roughly at half the rate of last year, which implies around 20%. And that sets us up very nicely for 2024, just as I remind everyone that our people are our largest area of investment. We're also investing heavily into our platform and our products, specifically in areas like CTV and our forward market product and in retail media.

Speaker 3

And as we're doing this, we're focusing heavily on productivity and efficiency with all of our teams from our engineering teams to our go to market business, Sales, AM and Trading teams to make sure that we believe that all of our teams are firing on all cylinders. For this year, we also expect CapEx to be lower than last So last year, we came in with around $80,000,000 of investments, and I'd expect that to be around $60,000,000 in 2023. And just a reminder, our CapEx levels include all of our AI investments, and we don't expect any significant step up in investments that you May have seen in some other firms. So just to sum up and as it relates to our modeling, as we've seen in the past, when we outperform on the top line, that usually drops down to the bottom line As happened in Q1 and Q2 of this year. And we're very comfortable with where things stand and cautiously optimistic about our business for the rest of the year.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you, guys.

Operator

The next question is from Shweta Kajuria With Evercore ISI, please proceed.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you for taking my question. Jeff, I have a question on cookie deprecation. So you touched on this in your prepared remarks and there's quite a bit of focus on it given that we are coming close to 2024 here And Google's plan to deprecate cookies, would love to hear your thoughts on how you think the magnitude of impact on Trade Desk in particular, Why you think it's not going to be meaningful and the overall industry, how you think about the impact, that's it for me. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yvette, thanks, Shweta. I appreciate the question. So first, let me just say, we've been down this path So when Safari made cookies go away, there was anxiety. When GDPR first came out, there was anxiety. And IDFA Removal happened.

Speaker 2

There was anxiety. And in every one of those cases, our business continued to grow and we saw very Little impact, speed bump at best. So I see this is slightly Or not slightly, it's exactly the same as all of those other things. But the reason for that is because of a phenomenon that is just different about our business than most other businesses that are in the space. So we look at $12,000,000 ad opportunities every second and we choose from those $1,000,000 or $2,000,000 that we want to buy.

Speaker 2

If identity is removed from instead of it being on $6,000,000 it's Now on $3,000,000 it just informs which ones we buy differently. We're still going to buy the same amount and we're still going to be informed on the vast majority of those. And in part because we've been so strong in growing CTV as well as leveraging UID2, We have an alternative and the biggest driver of our business in CTV that is present on nearly 100% of impressions, which is way better than anything in the browsing Internet world. So just to be clear, what this directly impacts is the browsing Internet world Of everything that runs on top of Chrome. So now let me talk for a second about the industry and be a bit more holistic Because I hopefully I've made my point that I don't believe this impacts us in any meaningful way.

Speaker 2

And in fact, I think you can make the argument that it affects us in a positive way just as much as it does a negative way just because It would be negative to all the players that are dependent on cookies and because so much of our business now is driven off of UID2 and CTV, I think you can make the argument that we would benefit from sort of hurting lots of the independent competition. It is actually for that reason But I believe it is a strategic mistake for Google to get rid of cookies. And as they're facing more antitrust scrutiny rather than Any other regulatory scrutiny, I don't think it's in their best interest to do. I think because of the way That the case dates are stacking up that they won't likely make any decisions until the end of Q1 next year. If they do make cookies go away then, I do think it will be very Bad for some publishers, especially those touching journalism that were historically print Journalists, I do believe that will really have a bad effect upon them and it won't have a great effect on the open Internet.

Speaker 2

But I do think it will be good for us. I do think that many of the consumer data companies will actually be better off Because nearly all of their data is anchored off of an email address and the way that we leverage data is just much, much Better in a world built around UID2. So I do think that it would accelerate the adoption of UID2 into the browsing Internet world, Not just among CTV and audio, and that would ultimately be good for us. But I don't think That would be a quick recovery for many of the web based publishers, especially those affecting journalism. And so it would be a net negative for the open Internet, But probably a slight positive for us.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you, Jeff.

Speaker 3

Thanks.

Operator

The next question is from Fashile Karasyov from Cannonball Research. Please proceed.

Speaker 6

Thank you. Jeff, I wanted to ask you about Retail Media. You spoke about the success you're having with Walmart. We know that last year there was a group of retailers that also came online. And so Question number 1, how is that coming along?

Speaker 6

Should we see contribution to revenue next year from those retailers? And then given that, would you be willing to update your thoughts on your TAM in retail media that you gave us At your Investor Day last October. Thank you.

Speaker 2

You bet. Thank you. So let me first explain one of the reasons why I think it's so exciting what's happening in shopper marketing. So of course, Many retailers have been sitting on amazing data where they know what's actually being purchased, especially for those products that you tend to buy at the So many of the products in grocery stores and pharmacies are still primarily purchased in A store rather than online. And then of course, many of them have amazing online presences as well As of course brick and mortar or offline.

Speaker 2

So many of them are bringing their data into the ecosystem and they've recognized that the way that they've operated in the past creates a bit of a needle in a haystack problem, Where you take a small amount of data and you go look in that massive ocean of 12,000,000 ads available every single second And you go look for the usually 1,000 or tens of 1,000 that have your data on it. And so you start with the data and you go hunting for it. Well, in this new world where things are leveraging UID from the very beginning, you get rid of the sort of 9 dominoes that need to fall in Supply chain so that you can then leverage the data, but instead you start with the data and you're actually just looking at the opportunities that match that instead of Going out looking for opportunities in that way. So by starting with the data, you make it so that you get rid of the matching problems of cookies And you make it so that the flywheel has been faster for all of these businesses, so that they're not just making additional money on a small amount of data, But they're actually selling more products across their entire company.

Speaker 2

It's actually part of the reason why I believe that the moves that were made By 3 of the most forward looking pioneers in the retail data space, which includes Dollar General, Albertsons, Walgreens that we're all looking for an opportunity to do something new in data. They made their data available for free, so long as people will pay to use it for targeting. So their data is available for measurements, so Advertisers can without any significant opt in or any friction find out where they're selling products and it's their belief As well as ours, that that will make it so that people are automatically optimizing their advertising purchases to sell products In those three stores, if we are all proven right, we think this represents a massive change to the way people leverage data In brick and mortar stores and in retail and that just will continue to accelerate this flywheel that is spinning in shopper marketing. I just want to remind everybody that shopper marketing is not just about shopper marketing itself. It is about improving the entire funnel.

Speaker 2

So every CPG has massive amounts of incremental data and insight to know where to spend their money In advertising, so that they are being more effective. So all of this has The sort of a flywheel effect of improving decisioning, moving more dollar to our platform, Making efficacy go up across everything on our platform. And then of course, there is an overlap between shopper marketing and CTV TV where they both benefit from each other, especially because in most cases, their data is anchored off of UID2, Which, of course, is e mail based in both the shopper marketing world and in the CTV world. So All of that together creates just yet another amazing secular tailwind for us in shopper marketing or retail. Thanks.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Vasily.

Operator

Okay. The next question is from Matthew Cost with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed.

Speaker 7

Great. Hi, everybody. Thanks for

Speaker 8

taking the question. Maybe just on the CTV market, when we think about what you've learned through the upfront This year, how are you feeling about growth and trends in the market through the back half and into 'twenty four? And then On a related note, if you could just give an update on the new forward market, what is the level of interest and how are those conversations trending for that new product? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thank you. So let me just say that I have never been more bullish on CTV than we are right now. And that includes All of the major news and headlines that are contributing to the current environment. You're seeing everyone in CTV look to add and or enhance Their ad funded options, nearly all of them are doubling down on the ad funded options. So where there's Just a few years ago, there was religion around only having subscriptions and not having ads.

Speaker 2

That's gone across the board. Everybody is looking to add ads and make them more effective. So the secular tailwind on our business is as great as it's ever been because of those things. Also, because there of course is a writers and actors strike, That makes it so much harder to sell at the upfronts for all these content owners, which of course the upfronts is predominantly built For broadcast and legacy television, in order to take advantage of the very best Of digital, we need a more sophisticated forward market than just the upfronts, which is effectively a party where Transactions are done with handshakes and very high level data instead of the sort of precision that data driven advertising can bring in a Impression by impression and customized user by user that, that environment can bring. So our product that we have been working on literally for years On the forward market makes it possible for people to have a much more sophisticated upfront buy.

Speaker 2

So The early phases have gone well. It is still very early phase. So I don't expect it To see all of the fruit harvested and even in 2024, this is going to be something that we build up over the years. But I see it in the long term being a very significant portion of our business.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Next question is from Justin Patterson with KeyBanc. Please proceed.

Speaker 9

Great. Thank you very much and good afternoon. Jeff, I was hoping you could talk about the Kokai launch. I know it's really early, but would love to hear feedback on just initial What you've seen in prior launches like Solimar and Next Wave. And then as a quick follow-up for Laura, could you talk a little bit about Linearity in June July.

Speaker 9

There's been a couple of prints so far this earnings season talking about a little bit more macro softness in there. So curious about any trends you've seen there?

Speaker 2

You bet. Thanks, Justin, for the question. I'll take the first part and then Laura, you take the second. So first, let me explain what Kokai is. So Kokai is a Japanese word that means Open for business or open waters.

Speaker 2

And the reason why we chose that is because we believe there this is a very important moment In the open Internet to make it possible for more and more companies to build to us in a variety of ways. One of them being to sell their products. So we have value added resellers that are selling on our product all the time, Whether that's in data, whether that's in algos, there's a whole bunch of ways with contextual data, so many ways. And then the other is them is advertisers in particular bringing their first party data to the table. And so with those as the overarching mission, Kokai has really built like In 5 major sort of categories or pieces, the first is massive improvement to the use of data.

Speaker 2

And so you'll recall we launched Galileo earlier this year and we also announced that Kokai, the creation of a partner portal where people can integrate To onboard their first party data. The second is the use of AI across our platform. You'll recall that we launched AI In 2018 before it was trendy and we called it then Koa And distributing that AI across the platform in a variety of different ways And different deep learning models, so that we're using that for very specific applications Rather than trying to create 1 algo to rule them all, if you will, which is something we actually very in a very disciplined way try to avoid. So that we can create checks and balances in the way that the tech works and we can make certain that AI is always providing improvements By essentially having AB testing and better auditability. The third thing is measurement.

Speaker 2

So First, we improved data on boarding. 2nd, we improved AI distributed throughout the system. 3rd, we improved measurement, So that we can measure the efficacy of ads, especially using retail data, we came up with a couple of new Ways of measuring, which is the retail sales index where we take a variety of different retailers and put all of their data together So that they're way better than the sum of the parts. And then TVQI, the TV quality index, we're helping advertisers see the benefit of being on premium Versus cat videos or worse that often comes from user generated content. Then 4th, in the second half of the year, there will be a new user experience.

Speaker 2

So that's right around the corner, of course, because we're in the second half of the year. So very excited about what that means. I believe this is our biggest and most impressive UX upgrade ever. And it's going to create better behaviors among buyers and because it comes with much better forecasting, They'll get to see the decisions they're making and the impact before they even run, which is new. That is something much better than what we've had over the last 14 years.

Speaker 2

I'm very excited about what that means. And then last but not least It is integrations for better CTV Measurement and performance across the board as well. So lots to be excited about, but Cokai is our biggest Release, I expect it to be our most successful, but I will say that because this requires adoption during The busiest time of the year because this requires a change in behavior, I don't expect there to be lots of adoption during the busiest time of the year. And so most of the benefits will be reaped in 2024 2025, but we're seeing a lot of the rollout of especially the first couple that I mentioned already, Seeing some impact already, seeing some performance enhancements. As we go into 2024, we expect this to once again Change the way that Mediavine is performed.

Speaker 2

Laura, do you mind taking the second half of the question?

Speaker 3

Yes, absolutely. Thanks, Justin. On linearity in June July, we've seen visibility improve as the year progressed, And we continue to see improving trends throughout Q2 where we saw our revenue growth accelerate to north of 23% year over year from around 21% in Q1. We exited June on a great trajectory and that's continued so far in Q3. So we expect a strong Q3 for the same reasons that we outperformed the rest of digital advertising Over the last few quarters, which is that we're continuing to see strong growth in CTV, in retail media and in international spend, all of which Have been accretive to us this year.

Speaker 3

So I believe we remain, excuse me, well positioned for the second half of twenty twenty three And even farther out as we move into 2024.

Speaker 4

Thank you, both.

Operator

The next question is from Brian Fitzgerald with Wells Fargo. Your line is live.

Speaker 10

Thanks. Jeff, we've seen some developments around Premium marketplaces in CTV built around SSPs. As you talk with marketers, do you get a sense that Some may be willing to give up some of the precision or expressiveness with which they manage their programmatic CTV budgets in exchange for lower tax Or are they really more focused on getting as precise as possible to maximize ROI? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks for the question. So let me first just Describe a conversation that I had with the CEO of 1 of the publicly traded SSPs, where We were just talking about PG or programmatic guarantees and just talking about how he saw things. And he and I agree that as people are moving budgets over from traditional television or linear, They are sorry. As they're moving over budgets from traditional TV or linear, they're often looking for programmatic guarantees As a place where they'll spend first, but as he and I both agree, they always end We're spending indecisioned because decisioning is much, much better.

Speaker 2

So we've recently done some studies on decisioning across the platform and compared it to PG and we found that the value of decisioning or the performance of the decisioning on a CPA basis Is 5x better in general? And or if you were to say it in terms of savings, It's an 83% save in order to in CPA cost in order to decision. So whatever incremental tax as you put it comes, which is usually in our case, the 20% -ish take rate, that take rate is more than justified by the power of decisioning that comes to the table. And that's exactly why even the SSPs and their leadership are predicting that long term things move towards decisioning. But the PG is an on ramp.

Speaker 2

We sometimes compare it to a freeway Where it's an on ramp and you get on the freeway, but if you stay on the on ramp, you're doing it wrong. And so That's what we see happening. That's what we think the SSPs see happening. But there will be some moves in the very short term towards these premium PMPs That are centered around especially programmatic guaranteed that long term we think move towards decisioning And broader data usage.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thanks, Jeff.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Brian.

Operator

The next question is from Dan Salmon with New Street Research. Please proceed.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. I got a 2 parter here. Jeff, maybe could you give us an update Any discussions you're having with industry bodies to act as a public administrator for UID2 in various markets, is that Still an important goal, are you happy with existing relationships and obviously you've got a lot of private integrations you've done as well.

Speaker 7

And then second, you mentioned how identity is increasingly anchored by an email address, yet it's pretty clear that Apple doesn't Exactly love the use of e mails for marketing purposes. Is that something that matters to you? Or do you feel comfortable with the level of consent that UID2 collects because Apple also Teams fine when digital advertising uses consented first party data. Any views on that would be great. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. So let me go in reverse order just because I think the significance Your comments around Apple is important. So Any of us that operate in the Apple ecosystem are putting in our Apple ID, which incidentally is an email address, Over and over and over again. In fact, we're not even we don't even know why we're putting it in most of the time. You're asked to put it in, You say why and then you put it in and then you're asked again and then you put it in and you are asked again.

Speaker 2

Apple has used their e mail based identifier To provide personalization, they have updated many of the things that they said they wouldn't do before, So that they can leverage that Apple ID to provide personalization. It is exactly that, that I think provides a validation that UID2 It is one of the most privacy centric ways to provide personalization across the Internet. It's used across many of the biggest platforms and with some of the biggest companies in the world, whether that's at Amazon, whether that's at Snowflake, whether that's at Disney, there's just hundreds of companies that are leveraging that, which of course is based on an email address, Not dissimilar from the massive empires at Google and Apple, which are also built around email based identifiers. So I don't think the comparison that Apple is allergic to them is fair because their entire ecosystem As it relates to the public administrator of UAV2, Honestly, it's not that important. Most of our integrations are done privately.

Speaker 2

Of course, we're happy to hand it off And look for the right public administrator as it continues to scale and as it becomes a more pressing issue, But it hasn't been yet. We want to make certain that somebody that is that public administrator, Of course, shares the vision of protecting the open Internet and at times is willing to stand up and do the right thing even if it's not popular. That can be very difficult to find. And so that's something that we'll be very deliberate about. But it has not slowed down anything in not having that, so we're not in any rush to change the status quo.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Dan. Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from Mark Zektowicz with Benchmark. Please proceed.

Speaker 11

Thank you. Good evening. Jeff, just regarding an earlier comment you made, I was hoping to get clarification how I think you had said UID2 benefits you more in a cookieless world. And I'm just curious, how that is because It's predominantly used as a matching mechanism between large pubs and advertisers and that data signal isn't Sort of privy to you, so I'm trying to just understand that a bit more. And then secondly, regarding OpenPath, it appears that there is a natural hesitancy We're hearing among publishers, large pubs to giving you more view into their CTV inventory or autonomy per se.

Speaker 11

I'm just curious if you agree with that and how you overcome it? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks for the question, Mark. So The reason why we benefit from cookies potentially going away In the form of UID2 is that we've been saying to advertisers, Every advertiser needs to have an identity strategy. We've been saying to publishers, every publisher needs to have an identity strategy And an authentication strategy. And by authentication, we mean there needs to be some way that you're encouraging people to log in and in the that you have logins, finding some way to leverage them.

Speaker 2

Very few companies on the Internet are leveraging their logins to provide Personalization to the level that they could be. And there certainly hasn't been much effort To leverage those outside of their own ecosystems or to make it possible for those that are bringing advertising demand to leverage The authentication on those particular publishers. If cookies were to go away, the need for that Goes up dramatically. And so for many of the publishers and we saw this with GDPR, we saw this with the IBFA movement, There are many publishers that are saying, oh, we'll wait until I have to. I'll wait to make changes until I have to.

Speaker 2

When they have to, they will make changes quickly. We saw a fire drill around GDPR among publishers where they were very quickly working To create the right personalization again and again, I just want to remind everybody what's at stake here. Think of how many print journalism companies have struggled to stay in business due to the Internet. And if you take their CPMs where they get a significant amount of revenue from $5 per ad to $2 per ad because relevance goes down, then they no longer can stay around. And that's why I say that cookies going away poses a threat Journalism, but that would make it so that they're very quickly leveraging those logins.

Speaker 2

And when you're saying, oh, I Get to see 1 out of 3 articles before I have to pay. I think you'll see a lot more Authentication at the beginning of almost every website, not dissimilar from if you go to a furniture or clothing website today, the very first thing you see is, Type in your e mail address and you get 10% off. If you type in your e mail address, only then will you get access to content. That will create much more authentication across the browsing web and that will make it so that UID can be end to end Without the syncing problems that cookie has and those syncing problems going away would create a much more Personalized Internet. And again, because we go from the 12,000,000 ads available every second down to the 1,000,000 that we buy if there's identity on the slightly fewer of those or in some cases slightly fewer, but The signal is much, much stronger and reliable.

Speaker 2

That can be an upgrade. So there's a whole bunch of room for upgrades. As it relates to your OpenPath question, honestly, I'm not really seeing the same thing that you're describing in terms of the obstacles. There's lots of discussion around the ways that we integrate. There's lots of discussion around priority Because many of the companies that are in the ad funded CTV space are trying to enhance their ad funded options and they're working very quickly To try to enhance those, the amount of pressure on streaming companies, I would say, is at an all time high right now to grow and to grow profitably And to fund the content and so often they're looking at ways to create more efficiency and an open path creates a more efficient Supply chain, so something where there's a more efficient supply chain so that they take home a greater percentage of an ad dollar It's a very important next step in the evolution of CTV and streaming.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Mark. And John, let's just take one more question and then we can close out the call. Thank you.

Operator

Absolutely. The next question is from Mark Kelley with Stifel. Please proceed.

Speaker 11

Great. Thank you very much. And I will stick to one since we're overtime here. But Jeff, I wanted to ask you about if you're seeing any impact from The MediaMath bankruptcy and any other thoughts on share gains, whether it's From competing DSPs or Laura mentioned some verticals that you think maybe you under index, any color there would be great. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. So we've definitely seen some impacts to our business. So let me first just say MediaMath is Essentially, exponentially smaller than we are. So it's not a huge lift, But there are definitely some benefits. One of the first places was with employees.

Speaker 2

We have a lot of respect for what they had built And they did a lot of things right and they also had some different perspectives on some things than we did. So we're excited to have added a few people From the MediaMath team to our company. There's also been some cases where there's business up for grabs. In some cases, we won that business outright. But what most advertisers do, especially those that were running anything sizable on MediaMath is they run a process.

Speaker 2

They test a variety of platforms. They put together a crawl, loft, run plans with each of them. And I think we're benefiting from that as much as anybody in the space or in the world. But As a result of those sort of deliberate crawl, walk, run efforts, I anticipate that it will be a sort of slow increase Where we'll once again see benefits come at all different paces, but we expect to win more business as a result, especially in next year.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Mark. And John, can you please close the call out?

Operator

Absolutely. This concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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Key Takeaways

  • The Trade Desk reported $464 million in Q2 revenue, up 23% year-over-year and accelerating from Q1, driving record market share gains.
  • Connected TV (CTV) and Retail Media were the fastest-growing channels, highlighted by Walmart campaigns (Fruit of the Loom achieving up to 1200% ROAS) and FairPrice partnerships (Coca-Cola driving 189% sales uplift).
  • The launch of Kokai introduces the Retail Sales Index and TV Quality Index, plus enhanced AI and a revamped UX, to simplify cross-channel measurement and optimization.
  • Broad adoption of UID2 and a robust CTV footprint position the company to thrive in a cookieless world with minimal disruption from third-party cookie deprecation.
  • Q2 delivered a 39% EBITDA margin ($180 million), $119 million in free cash flow, a $1.4 billion cash balance, and Q3 guidance of at least 23% revenue growth.
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