Zscaler Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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September 5, 2023

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

For standing by and welcome to Zscaler Earnings Announcement Fiscal Year 2023 4th Quarter Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr.

Operator

Bill Choi, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Strategic Finance. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Vscaler fiscal 4th quarter and full year 20 23 Earnings Conference Call. On the call with me today are Jay Chaudhry, Chairman and CEO and Remo Canessa, CFO. Please note that we have posted our earnings release and a supplemental financial schedule to our Investor Relations website. Unless otherwise noted, All numbers we talk about today will be on an adjusted non GAAP basis. You will find the reconciliation of GAAP to the non GAAP financial measures in our earnings release.

Speaker 1

I'd like to remind you that today's discussion will contain forward looking statements, including but not limited to the company's anticipated future revenue, calculated billings, Operating performance, gross margin, operating expenses, operating income, net income, free cash flow, Dollar based net retention rate, future hiring decisions, remaining performance obligations, income taxes, earnings per share, Our objectives and outlook, our customer response to our products and our market share and market opportunity. These statements and other comments are not guarantees of future performance, but rather are subject to risk and uncertainty, some of which are beyond our control. These forward looking statements apply as of today, and you should not rely on them as representing our views in the future. We undertake no obligation to update these statements after this call. For a more complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties, please see our filings with the SEC as well as in today's earnings release.

Speaker 1

I would also like to inform you They will be attending the following upcoming events in September. Goldman Sachs, Communicopia and Technology Conference on September 6 Wolfe Research TMT Conference on September 7 and Piper Sandler Growth Frontiers Conference on September 12. Now, I'll turn the call over to Jay.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Bill. We had a strong close to our fiscal year. In Q4, We delivered 43% revenue growth and 38% billings growth with balanced growth across all verticals, customer segments And geographies, for the full year, our revenue grew 48% to $1,600,000,000 And billings grew 37 percent to over $2,000,000,000 In addition to achieving record billings in the quarter, We also set records across several other measures. We added the highest number of $1,000,000 ARR customers, Generated record new pipeline for Q4 and attained record operating profit margin. I'm proud of our team's achievements and humbled by the trust our customers are placing in our platform.

Speaker 2

While the macro environment remains challenging, we are executing well. With cybersecurity as a high priority, IT executives are moving forward with 0 Trust initiatives driving our business. As I mentioned before, We are partnering earlier with CXOs to create compelling CFO ready business cases with clear ROI and payback periods. As our results demonstrate, refining our high touch sales process is helping get large deals across the finish line. We have a blueprint for delivering immediate value, which drives faster upsells often within 12 months of initial purchase.

Speaker 2

We closed a record number of deals over $1,000,000 ACV in Q4, driven by broad based strength across Our key industry verticals. In addition to our industry leading top line growth, we are generating record profitability. Due to our spending discipline, we achieved a record 19% operating margin as we more than doubled our Operating income on a year over year basis. These outstanding results reflect the strong unit economics of our business With best in class 80% gross margins, our innovation and customer obsession drove our Net Promoter Score to exceed 80, which is more than 2 times the average for SaaS Companies and contributed to our high 90% gross retention rate. I am very pleased to announce that we doubled our annual recurring revenue from $1,000,000,000 To over $2,000,000,000 in 7 quarters, reaching a milestone only a select handful of SaaS companies have achieved.

Speaker 2

We secure over 7,700 customers and protect over 41,000,000 users. With every customer looking to adopt 0 Trust architecture in today's world of cloud, AI and mobility, We believe we are in the early stages of capturing a large share of our $72,000,000,000 market opportunity. We have our sights set on achieving our next goal of $5,000,000,000 in ARR. We are on a mission to take 0 Trust everywhere to users, workloads and OT systems and become the go to platform for vendor consolidation, cost savings, increased business agility And better cyber and data protection. To fully realize the business value enabled by our platform, Customers are increasingly buying Zscaler for users, our complete Zero Trust solution for user protection, which includes ZIA, ZPA, ZDx and data protection.

Speaker 2

In addition, we are gaining traction with workload protection powered by the same core ZIA and ZPA technology. These broader platform purchases Drove 37% year over year growth in customers with greater than $1,000,000 in ARR. We ended the quarter with nearly 450 such customers, including 43 customers exceeding $5,000,000 Let me highlight one deal where the customer purchased all product pillars. A large global system integrator partner Headquarter in Asia became a customer and adopted our platform to enable their work from anywhere strategy. They purchased ZIA, ZDx and Advanced Data Protection for 300,000 users And ZPA for 270,000 users.

Speaker 2

They also purchased workload protection and deception technology To improve application security for their hybrid environment, this customer can now open new offices In the time to onboard employees, as a highly distributed organization with data everywhere, Data protection was a major consideration for them and accounted for 20% of the deal value. Data protection is an important new pillar of growth for us, approaching a $250,000,000 in ARR And growing 60% per year. We are increasingly replacing incumbent legacy DLP in the largest of enterprises With data protection representing a $10,000,000,000 plus opportunity for us. Due to targeted investments and rapid innovation, We believe our data protection solution is now at the widest and the deepest in the market, and we are taking data protection Beyond users to workloads and devices, let me highlight a new logo win Led by data protection, a large telecom operator purchased Zscaler for users for 80,000 employees. Data protection was a key driver for the win as this customer became increasingly uncomfortable With gaps left by their firewall and VPN based security, which struggles with data protection for TLS encrypted traffic That comprises over 85% of their Internet traffic.

Speaker 2

With Zscaler, this Customer is consolidating multiple point products and expects a payback on the purchase within 9 months. Our emerging products, including ZDx and Zscaler for workloads, continued to see increased adoption and contributed 18% of our new business in fiscal 2023. We expect emerging products contribution to increase To over 20% in fiscal 2024, I'd like to highlight 2 deals that are driven by our emerging products. In a 7 figure ACV upsell deal, a Fortune 50 Insurance Company purchased ZDX Advanced For all 170,000 users after realizing value from their initial ZIA deployment. With the Zscaler platform already in place, ZDX gets deployed quickly, reduces troubleshooting time and improves field agent productivity.

Speaker 2

We directly impact the customers' revenue and their agents' ability to earn commissions. ZDx exemplifies the platform benefits of our 0 trust exchange and expands our share of customer spending Beyond security, in another 7 figure ACV upsell win, a Fortune 10 Healthcare Company purchased Zscaler for workloads, just one quarter after making their initial purchase of Zscaler for users For all 150,000 employees, with workload protection, this customer is accelerating the plans to move Most of their on prem workloads to the cloud as well as protect workload traffic from over 9,000 locations. Lastly, let me highlight our success in the federal vertical. 12 of the 15 cabinet level agencies are our customers And we are starting to see larger awards from these agencies. Let me highlight one such agency wide deal.

Speaker 2

We were awarded a multiyear contract from an agency with more than 100,000 users. The value of this contract will be realized over time based on deployment with the field units. Against this award, we received a mid-seven figure ACV task order for ZIA and ZPA. This customer chose Zscaler over firewall vendors because our cloud native architecture delivers better security and user experience, All while meeting FedRAMP requirements. We remain the only cloud security service To have 2 key products at the highest level of FedRAMP certification, these certifications And the executive order for 0 Trust Security are driving a significant opportunity for us in the federal market.

Speaker 2

Next, let me discuss some key industry trends. Cybersecurity remains the number one IT priority And having the right security architecture is fundamental to reducing cyber risk. According to our latest Zscaler Threat Labs VPN Risk Report, nearly half of enterprises reported they were targeted by cyber attackers Who exploited a VPN vulnerability and a third of enterprises fell victim to ransomware attacks Within the past year, growing cyber threats, including ransomware are driving IT leaders to transform security From legacy network security to 0 Trust architecture, true 0 Trust security can't be built By spinning up a bunch of virtual firewalls and VPNs in a public cloud, do you know any VPN vendor Whose products have not been compromised, our architectural differentiation gives us long term advantage. As you may have seen, investors and regulators are increasing pressure on companies to improve cybersecurity. With the new SEC requirement to report a material security incident in 4 business days, There will be increased executive and board level focus on cybersecurity.

Speaker 2

Zscaler's 0 Trust Exchange platform delivers comprehensive security controls, full visibility and fast reporting, each of which is now a must have for meeting corporate governance requirements. In this environment, customers cannot risk transformational And mission critical projects with immature offerings from unproven vendors. Both legacy vendors and newcomers The security industry have tried to mimic our messaging. The reality is that no vendor comes Close to providing a depth of functionality and level of performance at our scale. Good enough in cybersecurity is never Good enough.

Speaker 2

Next, let me discuss AI, which is top of mind for customers and investors. Generative AI has tremendous potential to unlock insights, improve employee productivity and solve complex problems. However, the risk of data loss and issue of data sovereignty are limiting the potential of this new technology. To address these concerns, we already delivered data protection capabilities that prevent the leakage of sensitive data through AI prompts and appropriated into public training models. For example, our browser isolation session Would not let employees paste or type any sensitive information into GenAI prompts.

Speaker 2

This not only enables employees to use AI, but also do so in a secure manner for enterprises. Our engineering teams have innovated rapidly on new AI driven functionality that's available in our premium price bundles, such as auto classification of unstructured data for advanced data protection and auto segmentation of applications For 0 trust access. 2nd, we will have new products based on AI that will provide significant upsell opportunities With our customers, we recently launched Risk 360, which enables executive teams and boards To better understand the risk posture of the organizations and provides unparalleled visibility With up to date security status and corrective actions, they can implement in a timely fashion. Using AI, I believe we will be able to use our unique data set to also predict and prevent Most of today's ransomware and other sophisticated attacks on our customers, AI driven cyber insights End prevention has the potential to add tremendous customer value, and we believe we can monetize that opportunity. Zscaler has AI experts and data scientists and valuable anonymized private data to customize and train LLM models for the security domain.

Speaker 2

Based on a proxy architecture, our 0 Trust Exchange is like a private switch 3,000,000,000 transactions daily with transactions doubling every 18 months. These logs provide More than 500,000,000,000,000 signals per day that feed our AI models for better detection of user And application traffic anomalies resulting in a positive network effect of superior threat protection for our customers. We have been investing in AI for quite a while, including our first AI acquisition in 2018, And we will continue to invest in fiscal 2024 for rapid AI innovations, cloud enhancements and go to market to take our AI solutions to the market. All investments will be made within the envelope of margin guidance that Remo will discuss. In closing, we are excited about the opportunities ahead.

Speaker 2

We have a track record of building and growing new innovations like ZDx, data protection and 0 Trust for workloads, And we are now turning our attention to AI. We believe these new products will contribute increasingly to our future growth. Customers are adopting our broader platform to consolidate multiple point products. We believe customers Trust Zscaler more than any other provider for securing the 0 Trust journey. We have grown our global team to nearly 6,000 employees with a mission to secure the hyper connected world of cloud, AI and mobility.

Speaker 2

I'm extremely proud of the strong growth and profitability we delivered in fiscal 2023. I want to thank our employees and our partners for their tireless efforts and commitment to our customers' success. We will invest aggressively to delight our customers and capture the large opportunity ahead of us, while continuing to deliver operational excellence. Now, I'd like to turn over the call to Remu for our financial results.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Jay. We are pleased with our strong performance in Q4 and solid execution even with ongoing customer scrutiny of large deals. Revenue was $455,000,000 up 43% year over year and up 9% sequentially. ZPA product revenue grew 57% year over year. This will be the last quarter that we break out ZPA revenue separately, As we are increasingly selling solution bundles that involve multiple product pillars.

Speaker 3

From a geographic perspective, Americas represented 53% of revenue, EMEA was 32% and APJ was 15%. For the full year, revenue was $1,620,000,000 Up 48% year over year. Our total calculated billings in Q4 grew 38% year over year to $719,000,000 On a sequential basis, total billings grew 49% quarter over quarter. Total billings benefited from a $20,000,000 Upfront billing on a multiyear deal. As a reminder, our contract terms are typically 1 to 3 years.

Speaker 3

We primarily invoice our customers 1 year in advance. Our calculated current billings grew 33% year over year and 42% quarter over quarter. From a vertical perspective, we saw strong growth Across our key verticals. Our many performance obligations or RPO grew 35% From a year ago to $3,510,000,000 the current RPO is approximately 49% of the total RPO. We ended the year with 4 49 customers with greater than $1,000,000 in ARR, adding a record $49,100,000 ARR customers in the quarter.

Speaker 3

The continued strength of this large customer metric speaks to the strategic We play in our customers' digital transformation initiatives. We also ended the quarter with 2,609 customers With greater than $100,000 in ARR, our 12 months trailing dollar based net retention rate was 121% in Q4. Turning to the rest of our financial performance, total gross margin of 80.7% compares to 80.2% in the prior quarter and 81.6% in the year ago quarter. Higher public cloud usage for emerging products drove the year over year change in gross margin. As Jay mentioned, Emerging products are growing as a percentage of our new business and contributed 18% of new ACV in fiscal 2023 compared to 14% in fiscal 2022.

Speaker 3

Moving on, our total operating expenses increased 3% sequentially And 27% year over year to $281,000,000 Due to our focus on spending discipline this year, We generate significant operating leverage in our model, with operating margin reaching 19%, an increase of approximately 700 basis points Year over year, our free cash flow margin was 22%, including data center CapEx of approximately 6% of revenue. For the full year, our operating margin was 15% and free cash flow margin was 21%. We ended the quarter with over $2,000,000,000 in cash, cash equivalents and short term investments. In August, we completed an assessment of useful lives of our servers and network equipment. With advances in technology and efficiencies in how we operate our server and network equipment, Starting in fiscal 2024, we're extending the depreciable useful life for these assets in our cloud infrastructure for 4 to 5 years.

Speaker 3

We expect the impact of this change to be approximately a 50 basis point benefit to our gross margin for the full year. Next, let me share some observations about the macro environment and our framework for guidance. From our perspective, the global macro environment remains uncertain And customers continue to scrutinize large deals. In addition, in select instances, we will continue to enable new strategic customers to ramp into larger subscription commitments. Typically, these ramp deals reduce our 1st year billings, but will grow into a higher annual run rate level in the 2nd year.

Speaker 3

In Q4, for example, the net impact of ramp deals Was a headwind of approximately 1 percentage point to billings growth. We expect the net impact of ramps will be neutral to billings in fiscal 2024. In our outlook for fiscal 2024, we're balancing our business optimism and confidence in our improved execution With ongoing macroeconomic uncertainties, we are entering Q1 with a record pipeline and our customer engagements remain strong. However, we are mindful that in this environment, predicting close rates and ramps in any 90 day period remains challenging. With a large market opportunity and customers increasingly adopting the broader platform, we'll invest aggressively to position us for long term growth And profitability.

Speaker 3

With that in mind, let me provide our guidance for Q1 and full year fiscal 2024. As a reminder, these numbers are all non GAAP. For the Q1, we expect revenue in the range of 472,000,000 To $474,000,000 reflecting a year over year growth of approximately 33%. Gross margins of 80%, including a change in accounting for useful life of server equipment. I would also like to remind investors that a number of our emerging products, Including newer products like ZDX and Zscaler for workloads, we'll initially have lower gross margins with our core products.

Speaker 3

We're currently managing the emerging products for time to market and growth, not optimizing them for gross margins. In addition, we'll continue to invest in our cloud and AI infrastructure to scale with the growing demand. Operating in the range of $70,000,000 to $72,000,000 net other income of $14,000,000 income taxes of $8,000,000 Earnings per share in the range of $0.48 to $0.49 assuming 159,000,000 fully diluted shares. For the full year fiscal 2024, we expect revenue in the range of $2,050,000,000 To $2,060,000,000 or year over year growth of approximately 27% to 28%. Calculated billings in the range of $2,520,000,000 to $2,560,000,000 For year over year growth of 24% to 26%.

Speaker 3

We expect Q1 billings to grow approximately 30% on a year over year basis. We also expect our first half mix to be approximately 42% of our full year billings guide. Operating profit in the range of $330,000,000 to $340,000,000 which reflects approximately 100 to 150 basis points Operating margin improvement compared to last year. Income taxes of $35,000,000 Earnings per share in the range of $2.20 to $2.25 assuming Approximately 161,000,000 fully diluted shares. We expect our free cash flow margin to be slightly above 20%.

Speaker 3

Finally, we expect our data center CapEx to be high single digit percentage of revenue for the full year. Operator, you may now open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We do ask that you please limit yourself to one question. Thank you. One moment please. Our first question comes from the line of Brad Zelnick of Deutsche Bank.

Operator

Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks so much and congrats on such a strong finish to the year. Jay, can you address why Zscaler wasn't included In Gartner's most recent Magic Quadrant for single vendor Sassy. And if that's slowing you down at all, because it certainly doesn't seem to be. And maybe just a quick one for Remo.

Speaker 4

Remo, guiding 25 percent billings growth off of a year where you're clearly outperforming peers is quite impressive. What should we be mindful of beyond what you've already told us in terms of your inputs and degrees of upside and downside risk versus what you've delivered historically? Thanks.

Speaker 2

So Brad, this NQ is not slowing us down at all. Sassy is a broad genetic term. When Gartner started it a few years ago, it was an integration of SD WAN and SSC, the gateway products we have. And we've done integration with every SD event vendor that matters out there. So but that MQ that got started this time was for single vendor SASE with SD WAN offering in it.

Speaker 2

We have often said that SD WAN is the opposite of 0 Trust. We do offer 0 Trust chassis, but we don't offer SD WAN chassis. So we are not in the MQ. We are about changing the world, not really propagating the old world and we are very successful in doing so.

Speaker 5

And Brad, related to guidance, the positives are our pipeline, it's record pipeline. Our execution was very good in Q4, which gives us confidence. The potential downside is the global macro environment. We've taken that into account. From our view, For fiscal 2024, we're seeing a similar environment as we did in 2023.

Speaker 5

The guidance that we have, as you called out, 24% to 26%. We feel it's very strong guidance, which is supported by our optimism that we're seeing in our business related to So what we see is the global macro situation.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much guys.

Operator

Thank you. One moment please. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg of RBC. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks for taking my questions, guys. Congrats on the quarter. Jay, I was particularly impressed, comments on emerging product success, Seems to be really kicking in here this year and even more maybe more so next year. Now I was curious on Workload Protection.

Speaker 6

It seems to be resonating a lot of partner conversations that you mentioned on Call. Maybe just a little bit more details on why that's resonating, because I think if some of these add on products continue to do what they're doing, it certainly opens up Much larger TAM than kind of the core ZIA ZPA?

Speaker 2

So when we started ZIA ZPA, we started for users. A user can securely communicate with applications. It's natural to extend CIA for workloads, CPA who work close because work close need to talk to each other in a 0 Trust fashion. So our customers understand it and appreciate It's a great upsell opportunity for us to expand our ARPU as well as Customers spend with us. So we are seeing good success.

Speaker 2

The deal size is still smaller because the number of workloads in the various stages, various customers, But we literally have no competition when it comes to this area, because we are the only provider that's actually 0 Trust communication among workloads or workloads through Internet. We are upbeat about it for fiscal 2024 as well.

Speaker 6

Thanks, Jay. Congrats.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Roger Boyd of UBS. Again, Roger Boyd of UBS, your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hey, great. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a nice quarter. Jay, a lot has been made about Microsoft's Entry into this market, very high level, but Microsoft pretty specifically is targeting the SSE Security Edge space and not SASE And just maybe a follow-up to Brad's question. Do you see that distinction as maybe further legitimizing the SSE approach Relative to single vendor Sassy? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thank you. So SSE is widely understood and accepted. It's essentially the Combination of CI and ZPA we've built, but the TAM for SSE is large and it's getting larger than the market appreciates today. For Microsoft, it was natural to be in the market for identity and endpoint security As they have traditionally owned Active Directory and Windows operating system, but in line security is a totally new area for them. This area of SSC that we pioneered has a very high bar, high performance, credit security, no slowing down And supporting a range of destinations.

Speaker 2

In fact, it's like being the search event. We have to connect to applications that are in Microsoft and AWS and GCP and a 1,000 SaaS applications out there. So customers like the positioning of a provider like Zscaler that's not tied to applications itself. And Zscaler has earned trust of large enterprises

Speaker 7

that take

Speaker 2

time for any new entrant. Yes, Microsoft entries further validation, but we don't believe it will impact us because of a Positioning a large enterprise market and there may be some impact on the lower end of the market.

Operator

Thank you. One moment please. Our next question comes from the line of Atayya Kidron of Oppenheimer and Company. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Thanks and hi gentlemen. Congrats on a great finish for the year. I guess I want to talk about the competitive landscape The more traditional firewall guys, Palo Alto and Fortinet more recently and I guess Check Point referred an acquisition recently as well are Clearly, trying to make big efforts here. Maybe you could talk about the competitive environment. I mean, what way is it today different than what it was a year ago?

Speaker 6

And what are you seeing from your competitors more kind of near term here?

Speaker 2

Thank you. On the high end of the market, where we do extremely well, we really haven't seen a change. If there's any change, I would say Our position has further solidified and I wouldn't say it has gotten somewhat easier on the high end of the market. When it comes to the firewall market, we are replacing firewalls in the branches. When Zscaler gets deployed With 0 Trust architecture, there's no room for any firewall in the branch office.

Speaker 2

No, there are still firewalls in the data center and the like, Because we don't play inside the data center for East West traffic and the like. But as customers are doing local breakout of traffic From every location, the amount of traffic going through the data center is slowing down, which is bound to impact the sales and demand for Firewall is out there. So we do believe that the shift we have been talking about to truly 0 Trust away from traditional firewall and VPN It's happening and it will continue.

Speaker 6

Appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment please. Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Nowinski of Wells Fargo, your line is open.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you. Congrats on a great quarter, particularly On the billings, I mean, it looks like you solidly exceeded that even if you pull out that $20,000,000 deal upfront. So I wanted to ask about The data protection products that you called out, you spent a lot

Speaker 2

of time talking about it

Speaker 7

on the call. And based on the info in your slide deck, it looks like there's a lot of components to that beyond just data So maybe, could you just talk about, some of the vendors that you're competing against there? I think you said one customer you replaced Two different vendors. Maybe you just expand on what you're seeing there from a competitive perspective and maybe how competitive is it relative to like The markets for ZIA and ZPA. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. So data protection becomes a natural Same for us when traffic starts flowing through Zscaler. So literally it's hard to have any other data protection So what are some of the pieces that are attractive? First of all, BLP, data loss prevention, which essentially is done on the traffic that's in line. We are replacing The number one vendor we are replacing there is Symantec, Symantec 12, which is widely deployed.

Speaker 2

So first we deployed Symantec Blue Coat boxes and now that DLP is the 2nd big piece. The 3rd big area I'll be replacing And some of the CASB vendors. CASB early on got sold as a point product as a module. For us, it's a feature. So any customer who has a pure play SaaS be deployed, essentially gets Kind of replaced by our data protection platform.

Speaker 2

So those are 2 big areas. But in addition, now we are seeing some of the newer areas Coming up, for example, our endpoint DLP, which we recently launched is getting tremendous attraction out there. The email DLP module we added is wonderful as Well, through acquisition of Canonic, we have added the SaaS ecosystem, so the supply chain Data production, so all this has made C Spinner the most comprehensive platform and it's sitting traffic line. That's why we kind of called it out because the growth is great over 60% year over year and we are close to $250,000,000 in ARR.

Speaker 7

That's great. Thanks, Jay.

Speaker 3

Keep up the good work.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment please. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Essex of JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon. Thank you for taking the question and congrats on the results. Jay, I was wondering if you maybe or even Remo as well, give us a little bit more color in terms of the ramp deals that you saw this quarter. Is there a way to quantify what percentage of deals were ramped versus prior quarters? And how does that typically How do the dynamics of those deals work in terms of the amounts of commitments, the pricing and the Flexibility around ramping and does it give you more flexibility or it gives you more visibility around what you see in the pipeline in terms of coverage over the future periods?

Speaker 6

Thanks.

Speaker 5

Yes. I mean, I'll start and maybe Jay can contribute also. Ramps was a headwind of about 1% for us. For larger deals that we're doing as we talked about in the past We use ramp with our customers to basically ramp into the full suite of products that we have. What we're seeing is we're seeing customers buying more of our platform upfront.

Speaker 5

We're seeing also existing customers expanding their platform with ZIA, ZPA, ZDx and data protection. So when they're buying the full suite of our products, Basically, we use it as a vehicle to allow our customers to ramp into our products and we get that type of pricing. I would expect ramps just to kind of follow into fiscal 2024. I'd expect the same level of ramps in fiscal 2024 At this point, the ramps do give us better visibility into billings because basically they'll start off with lower billings Then ramp up their billings in future periods. But it is a vehicle that we use.

Speaker 5

It's been very effective. And so we'll continue to use it. Anjay, anything else? Yes.

Speaker 2

If I may add, the bigger the platform we sell, The more likely you need to provide ramp because the more pieces to be done. Number 2, some of the tighter macro environment, Bigger deal scrutiny ramp did pick up in the past year or so as compared to 2 years ago. We factor that in as a part of doing business and it's not a bad thing. We just have to manage it right away.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. One moment please. Our next question comes from the line of Gary Powell of BTIG. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Yes, Gray Powell from BTIG. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on the good results. So a couple of related questions from my side. Can you talk about the visibility you have on late stage pipeline today Relative to this time last year.

Speaker 6

And I guess I'm just trying to get your confidence in billings. Does the higher percentage of ramp deals today, does that help give you Better visibility on the growth outlook?

Speaker 5

Our visibility is good. So as we talked about, we've had A record pipeline in your execution also in Q4. So I would say visibility for us is good and supports our guidance. Certainly, the billings with the ramps give us also a good visibility too. So Our guidance, I feel 24% to 26% is very good guidance, and takes into account our visibility and all factors.

Speaker 5

And also if

Speaker 2

I may add, we have a record pipeline and we're seeing pretty good momentum On our business, we were in Vegas doing our sales kickoff a couple of weeks ago. The energy and excitement in the room could be felt. Actually, it was very good because our sales team I have a lot of confidence. We talked about the record pipeline, the record deals out there. We talked about the new momentum the channel is adding to us.

Speaker 2

So we feel very good about our fiscal 2024 business. That's perfect. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. One moment please. Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Ruykenhaver of Cantor. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Yes. Thank you. So I I have a question on the emerging product portfolio. You highlighted how it represented 18% of new business in fiscal 'twenty three. You expect that to get to Plus 20% fiscal 2024.

Speaker 8

It just seems to me like, plus 20%, not sure what that Plus could be, but it seems like a low bar just given your comments on data security, ZDx and cloud, including the tailwind that you talked about From A, I that is going to benefit some of those products. So can you just help us understand demand dynamics within that portfolio, the puts and takes Specific products where you expect to see the strongest

Speaker 2

demand? Yes. If I may start, it's all coming out of 100% only. That's the most important point. When the overall growth is pretty strong, okay.

Speaker 2

And for the new product, Even if it grows 70%, 80% a year, it has to work very hard to even take away 1% or 2% from the total New ACV, that's pretty significant. So the growth of these new products is much faster The growth of the overall new ACV, they are fairly small and they're growing into good business. We called out data protection as it became a significant part of the business. And I think here too, you're seeing Our combination of Workload Protection and CDX both are growing at a much faster rate. So I think We are actually happy with the growth rate, but the point I was trying to make is, they are trying to steal away The market share on the rest of the overall portfolio, which has a much bigger base.

Speaker 2

That's why the math looks small, but it is pretty impressive.

Speaker 8

Yes. Understood. Good point, Jay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Joshua Tilton of Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question and I echo my congrats on a good quarter. I kind of want to go back to the first question. And if you look at the guidance, the implied new billing kind of looks like a little bit more aggressive, I would say, in the last 2 years. So maybe just level set for us or set some guardrails or expectations around Kind of the puts and takes on what it would take for you guys to kind of outperform what you laid out for the next 12 months for us, please?

Speaker 2

Let me start to give you a big picture and Raimo, you can add your color to it. So our guidance is starting with first of all, a record pipeline And the momentum we have in the business. And we have plenty of product to sell. We have a growing market opportunity and many business drivers. We have a lot of new customers who are really buying 0 Trust for better security, lots of market that's not covered.

Speaker 2

We are still In about 30% of Global 2,000 market and we're seeing public sector coming strong, federal market coming strong and that's really Further pushed by some of the mandates that are happening out there. And you saw in some of the deals that announced, Customers are increasingly buying more of Zscaler platform leading to bigger deals. ZI ZPA, our flagship products Still doing strong. We have factored into good growth for data protection, which complements. It actually needs to go on every Zscaler Customer, emerging products are contributing nicely and they are contributing.

Speaker 2

So when you look at all this, that's what we took into Factor to give you our guidance, Raimo? Yes.

Speaker 5

I mean, our guidance It balances our business optimism that we see with our company also with the macro environment. We feel in this market, this is very solid guidance.

Speaker 9

Super helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment please. Our next question comes from the line of Saket Kalia of Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question here and echo my congrats on the result. Remo, maybe for you just to switch it up a little bit. Great to see the free cash flow margin expansion thus far.

Speaker 4

Maybe looking forward, can you just talk about some of the puts and takes on free cash flow margin But I think the 20% plus guide for next year, how are you thinking about things like billings duration or CapEx or Anything that's maybe influencing that number because it's great to see operating margin expand. Why isn't free cash flow margin maybe expanding in the same way? Thanks.

Speaker 5

Yes. Saket, that's a great question. The billing duration, I would assume similar type billing duration as we had In fiscal 2023, so no change. CapEx, we do expect CapEx to be a higher percent. If you take a look at the last 2 years, Our CapEx has been in the 6% range of our revenue.

Speaker 5

We expect our CapEx to be in the high single digit type range. We're seeing the expansion of our business. We're going to make investments in our cloud. And again, it's that's the main reason.

Operator

Okay. Very helpful. Thanks. Thank you. One moment please.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Gregg Moskowitz of Mizuho, your line is open.

Speaker 10

All right. Thank you for taking the question and

Speaker 6

I'll echo Mike. Congrats. Jay, Getting back to data protection, so your multimodal DLP that combines video and audio formats, That's interesting to me. Curious if you had any early customer feedback on that feature? And then secondly, what has been the early uptake around your new RISC 360 Operating just in terms of visualizing risk, etcetera.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 2

So multimodal VLP is still in development. It Start shipping, but there's a bunch of engagement with customers and interest is high because there's nothing like this out there in the market. You don't see these guys always like Pioneer new things that no one has done out there. RAZ360 on the other hand is actually Shipping, we have taken a bunch of orders. This product has more interest upfront than Any of the other products I can think of because our engagement with CECLs are strong.

Speaker 2

When a CECL looks at SD60 and say, wow, I have actually a single point really tell me the holistic view of my business and actually where my risk factors are and what tangible Prioritize actions I could take through my list. So this is a significant Velocity going on, very, very good feedback and the product is growing very rapidly in terms of functionality as well.

Speaker 6

Perfect. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment please. Our next question comes from the line of John DiFucci of Guggenheim. Your line is open. Again, Mr.

Operator

DiFucci, your line is open.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 6

So guys, as everybody has said, The numbers look good. It was a nice quarter. But when we try to look at like the new business signings, it looks like it saw a tick down Against a similar comp versus the what I think was sort of a monster quarter, the Q3. And Remo, you mentioned The continued macro pressure and of course everybody sees that. But is this quarter how we should expect Zscaler to Sort of be going forward in regards to business momentum and new business signings or was the Q3 a better gauge on what we should expect Going forward against this macro

Speaker 5

backdrop? Yes. I mean, our new and upsell bookings were up year over year. So for Q4, so it was a good quarter. From my perspective, John, I mean, it's a huge market Okay.

Speaker 5

Bottom part is Zscaler. I don't want to make any projections related to our new and upsell billings because we don't give that guidance. Let me just say that our pipeline for new and upsell is very strong. And we had really strong and good execution Our Q4, which gives us confidence. So I feel that we're well positioned to go forward, and really do well.

Speaker 5

As I mentioned and it's come up a few times, the wildcard really is the global macro backdrop. And so we're expecting the global macro environment to stay similar year over year. And so we'll see how that plays through. But from a company perspective, for what we did in Q4 and how our business tracked, we had a very strong quarter, which

Speaker 2

This optimism going into fiscal 2024. The point I'll also add is, since Seascoder can actually reduce cost While reducing business risk, there's added attractions. We're able to engage with customers And close deals even when the macro is tight. We also kind of felt very good about the record number of $1,000,000 deals be closed in Q4. So I see strength across all major areas, major vertical arrangements And that's why we do good about it.

Speaker 6

That all makes sense. And thanks for taking my question. I mean, what you guys are doing is Better than most everybody out there. But I guess just a quick follow-up, Raimo, you said your bookings were up year over year. If you look at current billings,

Speaker 5

and I don't know if

Speaker 6

you look at it that way, I guess I do, but and I'm looking I'm trying to back into new ACV New ARR depending upon the company. For you, it's new ACV. Was that up year over year? For most companies, it's not. And we calculate it being down a little bit, but still better than most.

Speaker 5

Yes. We're not commenting on new ACV, Our bookings were up year over year, and I think that's a good way to look at the business.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment please. Our next question comes from the line of Adam Borg of Stifel, your line is open.

Speaker 10

Awesome. And thanks so much for taking the question. Maybe just for Remo, a couple of related housekeeping follow ups. So NRR, I think, was at 121, below 125 for the first time after a number of quarters. I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about that And I apologize if I missed it as a follow-up, but billings duration in the quarter, just what did that turn out to be and was that a headwind or tailwind?

Speaker 10

Thanks so

Speaker 5

Yes. So NRR, 120 1 percent, we feel is outstanding. What we're seeing is that we're seeing more customers buying more of our platform upfront. So when customers are buying more of your platform That will impact what they're going to purchase in the future. Also, we called out on the call a Fortune 10 company Bought basically within 1 quarter.

Speaker 5

So if you're buying within the year based on the calculation for NRR, That impacts it. From my perspective, and we've been saying this since our public offering, Billings is really the best measure to really look at Zscaler. We still feel that. The only time we look at NRR It's really at the end of the quarter. It is a metric that we look at, but really what I look at is basically our total billings, Whether it comes from new or upsell.

Speaker 5

Related to billing duration, it was a tailwind in Q4.

Speaker 10

Great. Thanks so much.

Operator

Thank you. One moment please. Our next question comes from the line of Peter Levine of Evercore. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks for squeezing me in here, guys. So maybe one just follow-up on the Gen AI opportunity at your Analyst Day, but your customer conference a couple of weeks ago, you announced Security Autopilot, AB Rainbow for 1, can you just put a final point in terms of how you plan on monetizing that as usage base? Is it just an upsell to kind of The normal contract subscription and then second to Jay is, your competitors all saying the same thing in terms of their data is proprietary. I need to

Speaker 8

say the question to you

Speaker 6

is, what do you think makes Zscaler's data proprietary? What's your competitive advantage when you go into an RFP Versus call it like Apollo, whoever it might be that your data is proprietary, there is a mode around your business. What would your answer to that be?

Speaker 2

So let's start with data. We have lots of companies and lots of data. What's exciting about Zscaler We are designed as a switchboard for all communication between different parties. A firewall It's not a switchboard. Firewall is a door, it's a gate that says you are inside, you are outside.

Speaker 2

That's number 1. Number 2, Fiber logs are often what's known as short logs. Still a small number of firewall transactions, whether they are on prem or in the cloud as VM Or SSL decrypted. If the records on, if the transactions aren't decrypted, your logs aren't of much use at all. Or if you take DNS logs, they're not very useful at all.

Speaker 2

It says which DNS, which domain are you going to. We have full logs after decryption about all information, including the full URL. The URL has a lot of useful information that we have. Before any breach happens, reconnaissance starts, it could be Trying to exploit software vulnerabilities, it could be trying to officials employees. All of that traffic goes to us and we collect those logs.

Speaker 2

And that's why We can actually do some of the things like being able to predict potential breach and the like. So that's one big part on the Log side of it. Your second question on how do we monetize AI driven products. Don't think of Zscaler having Only AI driven products separately charge, it is going to influence all of our product lines. Today, Some of our premium bundles include AI powered products.

Speaker 2

So we are actually monetizing it as a part of the premium bundles. And they are actually fairly highly priced as compared to other bundles. Products like RISC 360 Leveraging AIML big time is charged SKU. Some of the new products we're building, they will have upsell, They'll have their own SKUs. So we think there's plenty of opportunities to charge because customers are seeing values from the products we're building.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Colville. Your line is open. One moment.

Speaker 2

All right. Thank you so much for fitting me in.

Speaker 5

Hello? Hello. Hey, Patrick, are you on?

Speaker 2

Patrick? Hey, Valerie, can we take our last question?

Operator

Our last Patrick's line was open. I don't know if he disconnected. One moment. Patrick, if you could star 1, 1 again.

Speaker 5

We could try the next call.

Operator

Okay, thank you. One moment. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Bollin Of Cleveland Research, your line is open.

Speaker 6

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I'm interested in how you feel about your progress throughout the broader channel, traditional 2 tier, cloud marketplace, GSIs. Any thoughts you have around kind of what you've learned over the last 6, 12 months and how that's playing into your strategy over the next several years? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. As you know, traditionally channel has played a limited role for us. We have been working on it. We are seeing more and more progress Just to clarify, I mean, we do take all deals through channel with some exceptions when customers insist on us. So that's one part.

Speaker 2

We are seeing year after year or in the past several quarters, Channel providing more leverage to us, that means doing more work for us. We recently hired our Channel Chief, Carl Sottle, he comes from extensive experience and strong relationships in the channel and he has done a lot of work in 3 areas of channel, system integrators, VARs and service providers. In the system integration space, We have actually most of the large SI, they have selected and deployed Zscaler for their own transformation And Xerostructure. So they are now embedding our solution into the SI advisory service, Which is very good because then it becomes a lot better. We also so we are counting on more leverage On broad channel, even the bar channel itself, they're going through some focused training program, enablement program, which will help them do more transformation with us.

Speaker 2

In fact, we had nearly 200 channel partners Come to our sales kickoff and join hands and then conduct session with our sales teams. We think that's bringing Our team is a lot more closer to work together's common account planning and the like. So we're pleased with progress and we think we're moving in the right direction.

Speaker 6

Thanks, guys. Have a great night.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I'd like to turn the call back over to Jay Chaudhry for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Well, thank you all for your interest in Zscaler. I'm looking forward to seeing you at some of the investor conferences. Thank you again. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.

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