Johnson & Johnson Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Johnson & Johnson delivered 6.3% operational sales growth in Q3 2024, driven by 7.6% growth in the U.S. and 4.6% internationally.
  • Innovative Medicine achieved a second consecutive quarter of over $14 billion in sales, with DARZALEX becoming the first product to generate $3 billion in a single quarter.
  • MedTech saw double-digit growth in cardiovascular sales this quarter, fueled by the acquisitions of Shockwave and Abiomed, cementing J&J as a category leader in four high-growth cardiovascular intervention markets.
  • Adjusted diluted EPS declined 9% year-over-year to $2.42, largely due to a $1.25 billion IP R&D expense for the NM26 bispecific antibody and a talc litigation settlement charge.
  • J&J raised its full-year 2024 guidance, boosting adjusted operational sales growth to 5.7%–6.2% (ex-M&A) and adjusted operational EPS to a midpoint of $9.91, underscoring confidence in its growth trajectory.
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Earnings Conference Call
Johnson & Johnson Q3 2024
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There are 14 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Johnson and Johnson's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode until the question and answer session of the conference. This call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Johnson and Johnson. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Hello, everyone. This is Jessica Moore, Vice President of Investor Relations for Johnson and Johnson. Welcome to our company's review of the Q3 results and our full year financial outlook for 2024. A few logistics before we get into the details. As a reminder, you can find additional materials, including today's presentation and associated schedules on the Investor Relations section of the Johnson and Johnson website at investor.

Speaker 1

Jandj.com. Please note that this presentation contains forward looking statements regarding, among other things, the company's future operating and financial performance, market position and business strategy. You are cautioned not to rely on these forward looking statements, which are based on the current expectations of future events using the information available as of the date of this recording and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that may cause the company's actual results to differ materially from those projected. A description of these risks, uncertainties and other factors can be found in our SEC filings, including our 2023 Form 10 ks, which is available at investor. Jnj.com and on the SEC's website.

Speaker 1

Additionally, several of the products and compounds discussed today are being developed in collaboration with strategic partners or licensed from other companies. This slide acknowledges those relationships. Moving to today's agenda. Joaquin Duado, our Chairman and CEO, will kick us off with opening remarks and highlight key catalysts within the segments. I will review the Q3 sales and P and L results for the enterprise as well as highlights related to our 2 businesses.

Speaker 1

Joe Walk, our CFO, will then provide an overview of our pipeline advancements, cash position, capital allocation priorities and guidance for 2024 as well as qualitative considerations for 2025. Jennifer Taubert, John Reed and Tim Schmid, our innovative medicine and medtech leaders will be joining us for Q and A. To ensure we provide enough time to address your questions, we anticipate the webcast will last approximately 60 minutes. I will now turn the call over to Joaquin.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jess, and hello, everyone. As you will hear, we delivered strong results in the Q3 with 6.3 percent operational sales growth. Our performance once again reflects the unique breadth of our business and our commitment to delivering the next wave of healthcare innovation to patients around the world. It also reflects the work we have done to shift our pipeline and portfolio to high innovation and high growth markets. That work continues, which you saw with the recently completed acquisitions of Shockwave and BWF, Imetec and Ambrx proteologics and the NM26 biospecific antibody in innovative medicine.

Speaker 2

And we are pleased with the progress we are making. In innovative medicine, we reported a second consecutive quarter of sales exceeding $14,000,000,000 with 11 key brands growing double digits. DARZALEX became the 1st product in our portfolio to reach $3,000,000,000 in sales in a single quarter. And as you will hear, our pipeline of high innovation, high growth potential assets is advancing rapidly with 5 major U. S.

Speaker 2

And EC approvals in the quarter. This includes FDA approval of vibran plus Lascos as first line treatment for EGFR mutated advanced lung cancer, a transformational step forward for patients and FDA approval of Tremfya for active ulcerative colitis, which represents a significant opportunity for Johnson and Johnson given 75% of Stelara sales today come from inflammatory bowel disease. And with filings and reviews underway for many of our innovative medicines that have the potential to generate $5,000,000,000 in peak year sales, we are increasingly confident in our near and long term growth trajectory. In medtech, you can see the impact of our portfolio shift to high innovation high growth markets, particularly in cardiovascular. With the recent acquisitions of Shockwave and ABIOMED, we are now category leaders in 4 of the largest and highest growth cardiovascular intervention medtech markets, which in Q3 translated to another quarter of double digit growth across the cardiovascular portfolio.

Speaker 2

And with the full market launch of Shockwave E8 peripheral IVL catheter, we are seeing an immediate impact of the Shockwave acquisition. In Vision, growth is accelerating and we expect that to continue with the recent full market release of Technis Odyssey in the U. S. And Acuvue Oasis Max one day contact lenses. We are also excited about the future of our surgery business.

Speaker 2

As you will recall, in November 2023, we committed to submitting the OTTAVA robotic surgical system for an investigational device exemption or IDE to the U. S. FDA in the second half of twenty twenty four to initiate clinical trials. I'm pleased to announce that we have met that milestone with the ID application submitted in Q3. Looking across the enterprise, our high innovation, high growth strategy is working and our progress this quarter speaks to the strength of our commercial and innovation capabilities.

Speaker 2

We have increased adjusted operational EPS guidance pre M and A for the Q3 in a row. We have invested $18,000,000,000 in high innovation, high growth M and A this year. And based on this quarter's results, we are confident in our expectations for 2025 through the end of the decade and beyond. And with that, I will turn the call back to Jess.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Joaquin. Moving to our financial results for the quarter. Unless otherwise stated, the financial results and guidance highlighted today reflect the continuing operations of Johnson and Johnson. Furthermore, the percentages quoted represent operational results and therefore exclude the impact of currency translation. Worldwide sales were $22,500,000,000 for the Q3 of 2024.

Speaker 1

Sales increased 6.3% with growth of 7.6% in the U. S. And 4.6% outside of the U. S. Acquisitions and divestitures positively impacted worldwide growth by 90 basis points.

Speaker 1

Turning now to earnings. For the quarter,

Speaker 3

net

Speaker 1

earnings were $2,700,000,000 and diluted earnings per share was $1.11 versus diluted earnings per share of $1.69 a year ago. Results in the quarter were impacted by the updated talc litigation settlement proposal as well as acquired IPR and D expense associated with the NM26 bispecific antibody. Excluding after tax and tangible asset amortization expense and special items for both periods, adjusted net earnings for the quarter were $5,900,000,000 and adjusted diluted earnings per share was $2.42 representing decreases of 13.3% and 9% respectively, compared to the Q3 of 2023. Results were impacted by the acquired IP

Speaker 3

R and

Speaker 1

D expense of $1,250,000,000 or approximately 1900 basis points associated with the NM26 bispecific antibody. I will now comment on business sales performance in the quarter. Beginning with Innovative Medicine. Worldwide sales of $14,600,000,000 increased 6.3% with growth of 7.5% in the U. S.

Speaker 1

And 4.4% outside of the U. S. Innovative medicine growth was driven by our key brands and continued uptake from recently launched products, with 11 assets delivering double digit growth. Results across the portfolio continue to be positively impacted by price increases associated with Argentina hyperinflation consistent with market practice. We continue to drive strong sales growth across our multiple myeloma portfolio.

Speaker 1

DARZALEX growth was 22.9%, primarily driven by share gains of 4 points across all lines of therapy with 7.7 points of growth in the frontline setting as well as market growth. CARVICTI achieved sales of $286,000,000 with growth of 87.6 percent driven by share gains, continued capacity expansion and manufacturing efficiencies. This reflects sequential growth of 53.2% aligned with our expectations of accelerating growth in the back half of the year. TEGSALI sales were $135,000,000 in the quarter with growth of 21.4%, reflecting a strong launch in the relapsed refractory setting. Demand remained strong, while sequential growth was flat due to continued adoption of longer duration dosing intervals.

Speaker 1

Finally, within our multiple myeloma portfolio, Talve continued its launch trajectory with another quarter of strong growth. We anticipate disclosing Talve sales in the Q1 of 2025, which are currently reported in other oncology. ERLEADA continues to deliver strong growth of 26.3%, primarily driven by share gains in metastatic castrate sensitive prostate cancer and favorable inventory dynamics. Rivravant, our bispecific antibody for non small cell lung cancer, contributed to growth in other oncology as we expand approved indications. We also anticipate disclosing ribrevant sales in the Q1 of 2025.

Speaker 1

Within immunology, we saw sales growth in TREMFYA of 14.3%, driven by strong market growth and share gains in PSO and PSA, partially offset by unfavorable patient mix. XELARA declined 5.7%, driven by unfavorable net patient mix and share loss, partially offset by market growth. As a reminder, biosimilar competition has entered Europe as of July and we anticipate U. S. Biosimilar entry in January 2025.

Speaker 1

In neuroscience, SPRAVATO growth of 55.3 percent continues to be driven by increased physician and patient confidence. In pulmonary hypertension, OPSUMIT and UPTRAVI grew 17.4% and 15.2%, respectively, driven by market growth, share gains and patient mix. As mentioned last quarter, REMICADE and SYMPHONY realized limited sales in Europe as we prepare for the return of distribution rights in Q4. I'll now turn your attention to MedTech. Worldwide sales of $7,900,000,000 increased 6.4% with growth in the U.

Speaker 1

S. Of 7.8% and 5% outside of the U. S. Acquisitions and divestitures had a net positive impact of 2 70 basis points on worldwide growth, 3 60 basis points in the U. S.

Speaker 1

And 180 basis points outside of the U. S. Overall, medtech growth was driven by commercial execution and strength of new product introductions, partially offset by continued headwinds in Asia Pacific, specifically in China. In cardiovascular, electrophysiology delivered double digit growth of 10.7%. Performance was driven by global procedure growth, new product uptake and commercial execution, partially offset by competitive PSA, ablation catheter uptake in the U.

Speaker 1

S. As well as prior year trade inventory dynamics and VBP in China. Abiomed delivered growth of 16.3%, driven by strong growth in all regions and continued adoption of Impella 5.5 and Impella RP technology. Cardiovascular results also included $229,000,000 associated with the acquisition of Shockwave. Contact lenses and other performance improved to 4.7 percent driven by continued strategic price actions, strong performance in Acuvue Oasis 1 day family of products, a one time benefit from a change in U.

Speaker 1

S. Contract shipping terms worth approximately 150 basis points as well as lapping prior year impacts from Russia sanctions. Surgical Vision grew 1.9% driven by Technis Puresy and Technis EyeHands, partially offset by China VBP and softness in the U. S. Surgery declined 0.7% with the Aclaren divestiture negatively impacting results by approximately 110 basis points.

Speaker 1

Performance was driven primarily by competitive pressures in energy and endocutters as well as VBP and the anti corruption campaign in China. This was partially offset by commercial execution, strength of new products across wound closure and biosurgery and continued price increases associated with Argentina hyperinflation consistent with market practice. Orthopedics growth of 1.3% was primarily driven by success of recent product launches and commercial execution, partially offset by competitive pressures, impacts of China VBP and revenue disruption from the previously announced Orthopedics transformation. Now turning to our consolidated statement of earnings for the Q3 of 2024. I'd like to highlight a few noteworthy items that have changed compared to the same quarter of last year.

Speaker 1

We continue to invest strategically in research and development at competitive levels, investing nearly $5,000,000,000 or 22 percent of sales, which includes a $1,250,000,000 payment to secure the global rights to NM26 bispecific antibody. Even when excluding this investment, R and D as a percent of sales increased to 30 basis points. Selling, marketing and administrative expense as a percent sales was leveraged 100 basis points driven by the realization of optimization efforts following the KenView separation. Interest income was $99,000,000 as compared to $182,000,000 of income last year, driven by a higher net debt position primarily related to the financing impacts of the Shockwave acquisition. Other income and expense was a net expense of 1,800,000,000 $8,000,000,000 compared to an expense of $500,000,000 in the prior year.

Speaker 1

The increase in expense was driven by a $1,750,000,000 charge related to the talc litigation settlement proposal, partially offset by prior year higher unrealized mark to market losses on public securities as well as the monetization of royalty rights. Regarding taxes in the quarter, our effective tax rate was 19.3% versus 17.4% in the same period last year. This increase was primarily driven by the tax treatment of the NM26 bispecific antibody acquisition and OECD Pillar 2. Excluding special items, the effective tax rate was 19.3% versus 15.6% in the same period last year. I encourage you to review our upcoming Q3 10 Q filing for additional details on specific tax related matters.

Speaker 1

Lastly, I'll direct your attention to the Box section of the slide, where we have also provided our income before tax, net earnings and earnings per share adjusted to exclude the impact of intangible amortization expense and special items. Now let's look at adjusted income before tax. Innovative Medicine margin declined from 45.4% to 37.9%, primarily driven by the $1,250,000,000 acquired IPR and D expense to secure the global rights for NM26 bispecific antibody, partially offset by the monetization of royalty rights. Medtech margin declined from 24.7% to 24.1%, driven by increased R and D investment and lapping of a prior year divestiture gain, partially offset by supply chain efficiencies. As a result, adjusted income before tax for the enterprise as a percentage of sales decreased from 37.6% to 32.4%, with acquired IPR and D expense impacting results by 560 basis points.

Speaker 1

Starting in 2025, aligned with recent FASB reporting disclosure requirements, we will begin providing additional P and L details by segment. This concludes the sales and earnings portion of the call. I'm now pleased to turn it over to Joe.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Jessica. In the Q3, Johnson and Johnson delivered results that illustrate not only the breadth of the business, but our ability to consistently beat financial expectations. Innovative Medicine continued to build on strong first half revenue momentum. We are advancing our pharmaceutical pipeline, achieving significant clinical and regulatory milestones across key therapeutic areas. Our medtech business with the addition of Shockwave delivered operational growth of 6.4% in the quarter, but did experience headwinds in the Asia Pacific region.

Speaker 4

We continue to fortify our future advancing the Otavo robotic surgery system to IDE, expanding VELUS use and launching new intraocular lenses. Due to dynamics in the Asia Pacific region, specifically in China, we are taking a responsibly conservative by assuming no material improvement in that part of the business for the remainder of this year. And as such, we expect medtech adjusted operational sales growth for the full year 2024 to be closer to 5% versus the 6% we referenced last quarter. The strength of a diversified business enables us to more than offset volatility in one part of our business, but yet be in a position to once again increase 2024 guidance for the enterprise. Before diving into the results, I'll take a moment to touch on some enterprise wide updates from the quarter.

Speaker 4

We are making progress towards resolving talc litigation. Our prepackaged bankruptcy plan received overwhelming support from the current claimants of roughly 83%, as well as the future claimants representative. As announced last Thursday, the case will be heard in the Texas Bankruptcy Court. And while we remain committed to bringing this matter to a resolution, it would be premature to speculate on timing. In addition to the pipeline highlights Joaquin mentioned, there are some additional notable advancements throughout the quarter.

Speaker 4

In oncology, we received U. S. And EU regulatory approval for Rybovant in combination with chemotherapy as a second line treatment for adults with advanced EGFR mutated non small cell lung cancer. With FDA priority review underway for a subcutaneous formulation of Rybovant, along with data supporting our treatment regimen to reduce adverse events, we are building a best in class eGFR portfolio. We also presented Phase 1 data for ribrevant with in metastatic colorectal cancer patients extending the assets potential beyond lung cancer.

Speaker 4

In multiple myeloma, we advanced our leadership position with FDA approval and filing of 2 DARZALEX Faspro quad based regimens for newly diagnosed patients. With CARVICTI, we announced 3 year follow-up data showing significantly extended overall survival and gained approval for commercial production at our Ghent facility, further expanding supply capacity. Finally, in oncology, we added to the growing evidence base for our Tarus platform with positive Phase 2b data in patients with high risk non muscle invasive bladder cancer and positive interim to Phase 2 data in patients with muscle invasive bladder cancer. In neuroscience, we submitted to the U. S.

Speaker 4

And European regulatory bodies for what would be the first global approval of nipocalumab for the treatment of people living with generalized myasthenia gravis. For the remainder of the year, we expect approval of TREMFYA subcu for Crohn's disease and data readouts on JNJ-two thousand one hundred and thirteen, our targeted oral peptide for psoriasis and ulcerative colitis JNJ-four thousand eight hundred and four, our co antibody therapeutic for inflammatory bowel disease aticaprant for adjunctive major depressive disorder and nipocalumab for rheumatoid arthritis. In MedTech, we completed enrollment of the OMNI IRE clinical trial to evaluate safety and effectiveness in mapping and treating symptomatic paroxysmal atrial fibrillation during standard ablation procedures. Also in cardiovascular, we are preparing for the anticipated approval of VERIPULSE in the U. S.

Speaker 4

And the submission of Impella ECP for regulatory approval. In orthopedics, we launched several exciting new products in the U. S. Including our Velas spine robot and Volt plating system. The plentiful pipeline progress across our businesses will ensure continued success.

Speaker 4

Let's now turn to cash and capital allocation. Free cash flow year to date was approximately $14,000,000,000 compared to $12,000,000,000 last year, which included 8 months contribution from the consumer health business. We ended the Q3 with $20,000,000,000 of cash and marketable securities and $36,000,000,000 of debt for a net debt position of approximately $16,000,000,000 Our capital allocation priorities remain unchanged. Our strong balance sheet enables us to strategically invest to grow our business, while simultaneously returning capital to our shareholders. Innovation remains core to our strategy.

Speaker 4

During the quarter, we invested nearly $5,000,000,000 in research and development. This is an increase over 2023 levels even after excluding acquired in process R and D expense. Thus far in 2024, Johnson and Johnson has deployed approximately $18,000,000,000 for strategic acquisitions and licensing agreements, which includes the recent acquisition of V Wave, another innovative treatment in heart failure, which closed last week. Turning to our full year 2024 guidance. Excluding the impact from acquisitions and divestitures, we are increasing our adjusted operational sales guidance.

Speaker 4

We now expect growth in the range of 5.7% to 6.2% with a midpoint of 6%. We are also increasing operational sales growth by $200,000,000 to a range of 6.3% to 6.8% with a midpoint of $89,600,000,000 or 6.6%. As you know, we don't speculate on future currency movements. For today's call, we are utilizing a euro spot rate relative to the U. S.

Speaker 4

Dollar of 1.10, slightly above last quarter's guidance. This results in an estimated incremental positive foreign currency impact of $200,000,000 reducing our previous full year negative impact to $1,000,000,000 As such, we expect reported sales growth between 5.1% to 5.6% with a midpoint of $88,600,000,000 or 5.4%. Regarding the rest of the P and L, with the addition of the V wave transaction, we now anticipate our 2024 adjusted pretax operating margin to decline by approximately 200 basis points. Excluding the impact of asset acquisition accounting and related R and D investment, we would be on track to improve operating margins by 50 basis points, which is consistent with what we guided to at the beginning of the year. As we strive to advance and accelerate our pipeline, you can anticipate elevated levels of investment in the 4th quarter.

Speaker 4

Net interest income is now projected to be between $450,000,000 $550,000,000 $150,000,000 greater than our previous guidance. Other income is anticipated to be in the range of $1,900,000,000 to $2,100,000,000 an increase versus previous guidance driven by the one time monetization of royalty rights that Jessica referenced that will be utilized for that higher Q4 investment I referenced a moment ago. Our effective tax rate consistent with previous guidance is expected to be between 17.5% 18.5% for the full year. Similar to last quarter, we have provided an EPS bridge to outline the impact from acquisition activity throughout the year. Before the impact of the Vwave acquisition, our outlook for adjusted operational EPS performance is once again increasing.

Speaker 4

As the schedule reflects, we are expecting an incremental $0.10 per share increase on our operational performance for a total increase of $0.18 per share for the year. On this basis, when excluding acquisition activity throughout the year, EPS growth is 9.2%. To account for the completion of the V wave transaction, as previously disclosed, our adjusted operational EPS guidance now includes dilution of $0.24 per share in the Q4 and $0.06 per share in 2025. Combined, this yields an updated 2024 adjusted operational EPS guidance of $9.91 at the midpoint of the range, basically flat year on year despite absorbing approximately $0.92 of acquisition activity. While not predicting the impact of currency movements, utilizing the recent exchange rates just referenced, our reported adjusted earnings per share for the year now estimates a full year positive impact of $0.02 per share.

Speaker 4

As such, we expect reported adjusted earnings per share of $9.93 at the midpoint. We are still finalizing our plans for next year, but let me provide you some preliminary qualitative commentary to inform your modeling for 2025. For Innovative Medicine, we remain very confident in our ability to deliver growth despite a significant LOE resulting in sales above the $57,000,000,000 commitment we stated in 2021. This will be driven by our end market brands and continued progress from our recently launched products, including TREMFYA in IBD and Rybovant in non small cell lung cancer. Regarding the STELARA LOE, we are planning for biosimilar entries in the U.

Speaker 4

S. In January, assuming that HUMIRA's erosion curve is a relatively good proxy for your models. We continue to expect a negative impact associated with the Part D redesign. In our pipeline, we anticipate data readouts across all our priority platforms, anticipated approvals of TREMFYA subcu in Crohn's disease, ribravan subcu for lung cancer and nipocalumab in generalized myasthenia gravis as well as potential filings for TARUS in bladder cancer and aticaprant in major depressive disorder. As a reminder, TREMFYA, Rybovant and TARUS continue to be the 3 largest underappreciated assets in terms of our revenue projections versus what analysts are estimating for the back half of this decade.

Speaker 4

For MedTech, we continue to expect to deliver on our long term objective identified at last year's enterprise business review of growing operational sales in the upper end of the 2022 through 20 27 weighted average market growth rate of 5% to 7%. We also expect continued adoption of newer products across all medtech businesses such as and electrophysiology, Velus enabling technology across orthopedics, Odysee and PureSee in surgical vision and contributions from our Abiomed and Shockwave integrations. Specific to volume based pricing in China, we expect continued impacts from the rollout of the 2024 tenders in orthopedic sports and intraocular lenses and anticipate VBP to continue expanding across provinces and products. Moving to the rest of the P and L, when thinking about operating margin, there are pluses and minuses. Tailwinds include an anticipated reduction of acquired IP R and D expense year over year, continued focus on medtech margin improvement and continued OpEx optimization benefits post separation.

Speaker 4

Working against us is unfavorable product mix driven by Stelaro biosimilar entrance and Part D redesign.

Speaker 5

With a brief look at

Speaker 4

your models last week, the consensus margin does not appear unreasonable and we'll provide further clarity in January once we complete our 2025 plan. We do not expect to maintain the heightened levels of interest income due to a reduction in interest rates and from debt experienced in 2024 related to acquisition activity. Regarding other income and expense, we expect lower net other income due to the nonrecurring nature of the monetization of royalty rights experienced in Q3, a lower benefit related to employee benefit programs based on discount rate assumptions as well as income lost on the Canvue dividend. Lastly, based on what we know today, under current tax law, we anticipate our 2025 tax rate to be slightly lower than our anticipated 2024 tax rate. To wrap up prior to Q and A, we are pleased with our underlying 2024 performance that simultaneously fortified a strong foundation for continued success heading into 2025.

Speaker 4

With that, I'll now turn it over to Kevin to open the call for your questions.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Our first question is coming from Chris Schott from JPMorgan. Your line is now live.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks so much for the question. Maybe just one on Telk here. I know there's still limited comments, but it seems as though the company has obviously made some advancements here into getting this behind the organization. Maybe just can you help us a little bit in terms of from your perspective next key steps to watch from here?

Speaker 6

And what is J and J's overall level of confidence that you have a path to resolve this in the relative near term for the story? Thanks so much.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, Chris. And as you have heard me before, our intention with respect to the litigation is to bring a responsible final and comprehensive resolution to these claims. And we are making meaningful progress to do just that. We have filed our prepackaged reorganization plan with the support of 83% of the claimants.

Speaker 2

And also we have had a decision of the court to keep the filing in Houston. So as I said, we are making progress in this resolution that I referred. As far as next steps, Eric?

Speaker 7

Hi, thanks Chris. This is Eric Haas, Head of Worldwide Litigation. Judge Lopez last week on Thursday after ruling that the case properly and appropriately should remain in Texas or did the parties to meet and confer and agree to a schedule for the expeditious resolution of the case. And by that, it means setting forth a schedule to get through to the confirmation procedure addressing any ancillary motions, whether the motions to dismiss or issues relating to the votes. And the parties are in that process.

Speaker 7

We contemplate putting forth a schedule that resolve those issues through the end of the year for a confirmation hearing sometime at the beginning of next year. So that's the schedule we're on.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Larry Biegelsen from Wells Fargo. Your line is now live.

Speaker 3

Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Tim, on MedTech, maybe help us understand the impact of the one time items in Q3 such as the ortho SKU rationalization. How you're thinking about the impact from the hurricanes in Q4? And what gives you confidence you can deliver the high end of that 5% to 7% next year?

Speaker 3

Thanks for taking the question.

Speaker 5

Larry, thank you for the question. And we're proud of the 6.4% operational growth for the quarter, 7 sorry, 5.7% for full year. And I think the results really talk to the success of our deliberate move into higher growth, higher margin categories, especially in the cardiovascular space. You'll recall and you'll see that from our results, almost $300,000,000 is being added from the Shockwave acquisition, which continues to perform to expectations as does Abiomed. And we've also added to the portfolio with the acquisition of Laminar in the Q4 of last year and then more recently the announced closure of the acquisition of Z Wave, which once again takes us into even more exciting high growth, high margin opportunities within

Speaker 3

cardiovascular. Specifically to Orthopaedics, we believe this is going to

Speaker 5

be another solid year for Orthopaedics, 3 Orthopaedics, we believe this is going to be another solid year for Orthopaedics, 3.2% growth for the year. We did have a slightly softer Q3, which was a result to your point of the restructure within Orthopaedics. And as we look to the full year, we expect a return to significantly better performance, especially in Orthopaedics, which typically has a stronger Q4. And we are seeing tremendous performance specifically within the hips and knees categories, growing 6% 7%. And I think that's really been enabled by the success of our enabling technologies in Velas, in knees, which also, by the way, we've added the indication of the Uni Knee as well as our concise and hip navigation systems within hips.

Speaker 5

I'd also add to the Orthopedics performance. We are significantly addressing portfolio gaps within our trauma portfolio with the launch of Tri LEAP, VirtuGuide and VoLTE in the back half of the year. And I think you know our spine portfolio has been challenged and we're addressing that with the launch of Telogen, our new trial to thoracolumbar system and the new spine robot, which we just received approval for. As it relates to the hurricanes, we did see the impact certainly of Hurricane Helene in the final weeks of the Q3 and continue to see the impact of Milton over the last coming days, especially in the areas most impacted by those storms. I do think the watch out that we all need to watch carefully is certainly the impact of the recently announced IV saline shortages, which if they do persist could potentially impact surgical procedures across our portfolio.

Speaker 5

Thank you, Larry.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Louise Chen from Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now live.

Speaker 1

Hi. Thank you for taking my question here. I wanted to ask you how you see TREMFYA, JNJ-two thousand one hundred and thirteen and some of your other pipeline products coming together to replace sales lost to XELARA and then take share from entrenched competitors? Thank you.

Speaker 8

Hi, Louise. It's Jennifer and good morning, everyone. And I wanted to start off by having a chance to really recognize and thank all my innovative medicine colleagues around the world for a fabulous quarter in the Q3. We really continue to deliver against our strategy with 11 key brands, having double digit growth and achieving a few really notable milestones, notably the Tremfya approval and launch in ulcerative colitis, also Ryprevant plus Lasclu in first line non small cell lung cancer. And we also completed the acquisition of NM26, which is a Phase 2 ready asset for atopic dermatitis.

Speaker 8

So as we take a look at the immunology portfolio, we're really excited about TREMFYA and what we see as the prospects ahead. I just mentioned that we got approval during the quarter for that product in ulcerative colitis. We believe we truly have a winning proposition for that asset in IBD. And it's off to a really nice start with a good really strong reception amongst the medical community. And we see that product having a lot of strengths because it's the only dual active IL-twenty three.

Speaker 8

So it blocks both IL-twenty three and CD64 receptor cells. Cells. It really sets what we believe is a new bar in terms of efficacy with the highest rate of endoscopic normalization. And we've got really rigorous head to head data versus STELARA showing superiority in Crohn's disease. And we think that we've got unrivaled flexibility in what will ultimately be a subcu both induction and maintenance dose for TREMFYA.

Speaker 8

So TREMFYA was $4,000,000,000 in sales for the quarter, and that was really on psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis alone. When we take a look going forward and what we had seen with STELARA in terms of the strength in IBD and the potential, we think that TREMFYA definitely is an asset that is of Stellaris size or bigger and better. So a lot of exciting opportunity for us ahead. For 2,113, we're really excited about our oral asset that we're developing. And I'll let John Reed, my colleague John Reed actually talk about why we're so excited about it and some of the data, upcoming data there.

Speaker 8

But we do think that being able to have that advanced efficacy and known safety profile in a simple oral tablet is not only going to be great for the existing biologics appropriate patients, but we think it gives us a great market expansion opportunity moving into earlier lines of therapy as well. John?

Speaker 9

Yes. Thanks. The 2,113 is really moving along nicely. As you know, this is our targeted oral peptide, a very exquisite, elegantly designed molecule that binds to and blocks the IL-twenty three receptor and is orally bioavailable with a once daily dosing. The psoriasis indication is fully enrolled now for Phase 3 studies, which are quite broad and include head to heads against TIK2 inhibitors as well as both adult and adolescent patients as well as a study in patients that have disease affecting hard to treat areas, scalp and other parts of the anatomy that can be very difficult to clear typically.

Speaker 9

So we're really looking quite comprehensively there and the data will be rolling out in the next few months. So we look forward to sharing those at the appropriate time. In inflammatory bowel disease, we're in a signal seeking Phase II study in ulcerative colitis where we're exploring different doses before moving into more advanced studies. Given that the IL-twenty three pathway is well validated inflammatory bowel disease, thanks to STELARA and TREMFYA, we're quite confident that those studies will come through for us, but we'll wait for those data later this year to see how that oral medication is faring there. The other thing I've maybe mentioned just in case it's not on your radar is we also have a co antibody approach.

Speaker 9

We call it 4,804 where GUS and GOL, Trempya and our TNF inhibitor are combined for patients who tend to be on the more refractory side. And we're in the middle of inflammatory bowel disease studies there that we'll read out next year. So really excited about that antibody combination as well. So altogether, the immunology portfolio is really quite robust, and particularly in inflammatory bowel disease and the areas of dermatology where we've had traditional strengths.

Speaker 8

We really do think that we've got a winning portfolio for inflammatory bowel diseases. And maybe just one addition because I know we've had questions on this in the past on 2,113. We're going to be developing that really across the spectrum, so both ulcerative colitis as well as Crohn's disease. So we're starting off in ulcerative colitis, but absolutely have plans to develop it in Crohn's as well.

Operator

Thank you. Next question today is coming from Terence Flynn from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now live.

Speaker 10

Great. Thanks so much for taking the question. Maybe just on the multiple myeloma portfolio, obviously, very nice growth in CAR VICTI this quarter. I know you spoke to some of the drivers, but just was wondering if you can elaborate on what you're seeing in the 2nd line setting at this point? And then as you look at Tech Valley through the rest of this year into next year, what's it going to take to really see an acceleration in growth in this product?

Speaker 10

Or is this or do we have to wait until we get to earlier lines of treatment here to see growth again in that franchise? Thank you.

Speaker 8

Hi, Terence. Thanks so much for the question on multiple myeloma. And I won't go into a lot of detail on DARZALEX, but it's worth noting that we had 3,000,000,000 dollars in sales, more than 20% growth and that DARZALEX really continues to perform quite strongly for us as we continue to grow share, particularly in frontline in both transplant eligible and ineligible patients. I really appreciate the question on CARVICTI. So $286,000,000 in sales, 88% growth year over year and 53% quarter over quarter.

Speaker 8

And we're really seeing that continued growth for a number of reasons. So first, we're seeing very strong demand based on the CARTITUDE 4 approval for that second line and beyond patients. In addition, overall survival data was just presented for CARVICTI in this line, which is very, very significant and further adds to the importance of this medicine for patients with multiple myeloma. And the other aspect is we continue to progress really nicely with our continued capacity expansion, both in terms of number of slots per day. In Raritan, we gained approval for our Ghent manufacturing site in Europe for commercial production that is now underway and able to serve patients.

Speaker 8

And our CMO in the United States as well is producing on the clinical end. And so all the way around from performance of the product, from new data as well as continued capacity expansion, we continue to see very strong performance for CARVICTI. And as we've discussed before, I don't know that we will see that as a complete exact linear growth curve quarter to quarter simply because the capacity expansion works in a bit more of a stair step fashion. But as we have discussed, Q2 for us being definitely more robust than the first half that's playing through. And I think if you think about that going forward, that makes a lot of step a lot of sense.

Speaker 8

We're over 4,200 patients now with CARVICTI and it is the most successful CAR T launch for across throughout the industry across all CAR Ts. Then last, you asked about tekvily and talketamab. So if we take a look at start off basically with tek. So tek sales were 130 $5,000,000 21 percent growth for the quarter, but it was flat sequentially. We're seeing really nice uptake in the market in terms of new patients.

Speaker 8

There's also a dynamic where physicians are treating with longer treatment durations. So we do think that there's a lot of continued growth and expansion for the product. It's performing very well for patients and not only in its current lines of therapy, but we're also taking a look and studying it in combinations whether with DARZALEX, whether with TAL. And so we do believe that there's a lot of growth potential on there. For Talvei, we're not reporting out the sales yet.

Speaker 8

I think we'll start on that probably next year. But both Tal and Tech, we continue to expand not only with the academic community but also out into the community setting. And so we think there's a lot of growth

Speaker 9

ahead. Maybe just a couple of things to highlight as well. With Teck, that is not only the 1st in class BCMA targeting T cell engager, but the data really showed also is best in class relative to other molecules in that of that type. The deepest responses complete response rates are approaching 50%, about half of patients. Duration of response is nearly 2 years and very low discontinuation rates less than 5% showing that the weight adjusted dosing where we can really optimize for the patients is really playing out there.

Speaker 9

Very excited about the early data we're seeing when we combine Teck with daira, where we're seeing really high response rates in patients who have been multiply treated and now in Phase III studies in patients with 1 to 3 prior lines. And then similar story with tau, that is a B cell preserving target as you know. So there are fewer risks of severe infections with tau. And it has shown in the late line the highest overall response rates of any T cell engager bispecific for myeloma. So we think there's a lot of upside opportunity there.

Speaker 9

And again, the data in combo with Dara are really impressive. So we're marching along with that combination and where we can have the benefits of both the T cell engager together with the CD38 class and really only J and J is positioned to do that.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Danielle Antalffy from UBS. Your line is now live.

Speaker 11

Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks so much for taking the question. Just a quick question on the EP business. I mean, obviously, that's very topical. You hadn't really seen much of a slowdown.

Speaker 11

I appreciate Q3 was probably arguably the Q1 where we had a more a full quarter of PSA launching. I guess, I'm just curious about what you think the underlying market is growing and where PFA is versus RF? And also as we look ahead to 2025 and Verapol, how that changes dynamics for J and J's EP business? Thanks so much.

Speaker 5

Thank you, Daniel. And as you said, it is a really exciting time to be in electrophysiology and we couldn't be more proud of the significant leadership position we've held in this category for more than 20 years. And just to put our performance in context, our EP business is a $5,000,000,000 business, which grew 11% in the 3rd quarter 17% year to date. We are actively progressing our launch of VARAPULSE in EMEA and in Japan, where we still are executing against our soft launches. We've had over 800 successful cases.

Speaker 5

We shared the data from our EDMIR study at the recent HRS meeting showing 85% primary effectiveness in that portfolio and that product. And we believe we've got a product that really will hunt. As it relates to the U. S, you're right. We're seeing continued competition, especially in the ablation space, given that we don't currently have a PFA product.

Speaker 5

But having spent a lot of time in EP Labs over the last couple of weeks, I can tell you that we are incredibly excited for the availability of VARAPULSE, which we expect to have approval sometime later this quarter or in Q1 of next year. We are still, by the way, mapping the majority of those cases, Daniel. That's what most people don't see is that while we may not have that product in the portfolio, we are mapping more than 50% of competitive cases. In fact, we've updated our market leading Cardo software to actually reflect better visualization for competitive products. And what we've seen in the market, and I can't give you specific data, but a significant increase in procedures on the time it's taking EPs to perform ablation procedures with PSA.

Speaker 5

And by the way, today, we're benefiting from the volume increase from PSA even though we don't have that catheter. And so that combination of the 5,500 installed base of Cardo best in class mapping and highly trained mappers, we believe is a significant advantage and positions us extremely well when PFA comes to market. I will also say that similar to RF, which by the way, we still believe has a play within the portfolio, we have the best in class RF catheter with QDOT, 86% primary effectiveness. The winning strategy in RF has been a full portfolio. And similarly in PFA, beyond our first launch with VARAPULSE, you will see a full portfolio of focal large focal single shot and dual energy catheters.

Speaker 5

By the way, we already applied for CE marking for our dual energy catheter. And so we're confident in our leadership position in EP and our sources of differentiation for the future. Thank you, Daniel.

Operator

Thank you. Next question today is coming from Shagun Singh from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now live.

Speaker 12

Great. Thank you so much. I was hoping you could elaborate on the dynamics that you're seeing in the Asia Pacific region in medtech, specifically China. Could you quantify the headwinds? When do you expect it to normalize?

Speaker 12

And you did talk about China VPP and that has expanded into additional provinces and products. So could you just elaborate on the impact there and how we should think about it in 2025? Thank you.

Speaker 5

Thank you, Shagun. And yes, we've had a myriad of issues hitting us in the Asia Pacific region of late. And let me just highlight a couple, and I'll certainly get to your question on China. Firstly, you may know that in February of this year in Korea, the government initiated or at least a strike was initiated among the health care professional community. Unfortunately, we don't see any end in sight to that.

Speaker 5

And so that certainly has been a headwind. We're seeing macroeconomic pressures in Japan. And then more importantly, to your question, the ongoing impact of volume based procurement, which has also been exacerbated by the anti corruption campaign. And by the way, while we believe this is absolutely the right thing to do and we support it for the long term, it is impacting procedures and the engagement by health care professionals with companies like ours, especially on premium products. We have a leadership position.

Speaker 5

We have the largest med tech company in China. And given the high leadership positions, we are seeing a disproportionate impact from VBP. We have 5 major categories impacted through tenders in 2023 in electro physiology, trauma, spine, endocutters and energy and more recently IOLs and sports in our Orthopedics business. We do believe that this will be a headwind through the remainder of 2024 and into 2025. That said, we are absolutely confident that China continues and will continue to be an important part of our portfolio.

Speaker 5

Even with the impact of EBP, we believe we can deliver tremendous growth in returns for our shareholders. And I think this really talks to the strength of our global portfolio across MedTech, the fact that we can offset headwinds in one geography with better performance in places like Europe and the U. S. Please rest assured, we also believe that this part of the world, especially in Asia Pacific, will continue to be a growth opportunity. And let me tell you why, 60% of the world's patients live in that part of the world.

Speaker 5

And we're proud of the fact that

Speaker 3

we've been in many of these markets for many, many years and expect to continue to do so.

Speaker 5

The markets for many, many years and expect to continue to do so. The final point I'll make is let's remember, while this is a headwind for medtech, this is not material to Johnson and Johnson. When we look at our global sales across Johnson and Johnson, less than 5% of our business is in China. Thank you again.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Vamil Divan from Guggenheim Securities. Your line is now live.

Speaker 13

Great. Thanks for taking my question. I have a question on the immunology side just on TREMFYA and STELARA. So you mentioned the U. S.

Speaker 13

Sales for both those products were a little bit lighter than we were expecting and you mentioned this unfavorable patient mix impacting the quarter. So I'm just curious if you can just go into a little more detail on what you're seeing for those products in the U. S. Specifically? And is this patient mix issues or this quarter, is it adjustments from prior quarters?

Speaker 13

And is it something specific to Johnson and Johnson or is it maybe something broader to the immunology market? Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yes, Vamil. If you talk about with patient mix, this would be something that is specific to some of the true ups that we do. As you are all aware, we end up having to make an assessment on our gross to net reduction. And as we get final bills in, there always are some true ups. Sometimes they're for the positive, sometimes it is a negative reduction.

Speaker 1

So when we refer to patient mix, this is different patients coming through different channels

Speaker 2

as well as some of

Speaker 1

the accounting true ups for the final payments that we make. Then I will hand it over to Jennifer to specifically talk about the performance and the commercial perspective of Tremfya and Stelara in the U.

Speaker 8

S. And I think so if we take a look for Tremfya outside the U. S, really nice growth at 27%. In the U. S, it was a little over 9% specifically for that patient mix issue that Jess just spoke about.

Speaker 8

We do think that the prospects are very strong for continued TREMFYA growth based on what I articulated before around the launches in ulcerative colitis and the upcoming launches that we're planning for in Crohn's disease as well. I think for STELARA, we did see a decline in that again sort of similar patient mix piece in the U. S. We've also and also we've noted the decline ex U. S, particularly in EMEA due to biosimilar competition.

Speaker 8

We know that STELARA is near at its end of life. And really that TREMFYA and across the rest of our portfolio, we've got a very robust stable of products with pretty significant growth.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Vamil. Kevin, we have time for one last question.

Operator

Thank you. Our final question today is coming from Jayson Bedford from Raymond James. Your line is now live. Good morning. Maybe just a question for either Tim or Joe.

Operator

Appreciate the color on MedTech, but the 5% bogey for the year still implies a decent acceleration in 4Q off a tougher comp. What gets better in 4Q? And then just a quick clarification, the IV solutions dynamic from Helane, are you seeing an impact on volumes outside of Western North Carolina and Florida? Thanks.

Speaker 5

Jason, thank you for the question. And let me hit the last one first. No, we have seen the majority of the impact in the areas impacted by that storm. As I mentioned earlier, I think the watch out is any potential impact from additional shortage of IV fluid, which may impact elective procedures. And certainly, continuing to monitor that very carefully.

Speaker 5

As Joe mentioned, we expect now on the back of the headwinds we mentioned earlier in Asia Pacific to deliver adjusted operational growth of around 5% and north of 6% on an operational basis for the year. We believe that the momentum we're carrying into the 4th quarter, especially in our cardiovascular businesses with our winning portfolio in electrophysiology, strong double digit growth in Shockwave, Abiomed. I mean those are, as you can see from the performance, absolute home runs. The other important dynamic here is that as we signaled in the first and second quarter, we expect to see improvement within our Vision business, which typically has delivered solid mid single digit growth. We had a tremendous third quarter, which really gives us confidence in even stronger 4th.

Speaker 5

This was delivered by much better performances, especially in our contact lens business. In fact, here in the U. S, our most important market, double digit growth for contact lenses in the quarter. And this just really has been delivered from a stabilization of our distributor inventory in the U. S, the fact that we're able to get back to taking new wearer share now that we have unconstrained supply, especially within our A Stick portfolio.

Speaker 5

And so we do believe that Vision has a very strong quarter ahead. And then finally, across the portfolio, we're benefiting from tremendous new product launches, both within cardiovascular, the E8 peripheral catheter within Shockwave, continued performance within Abiomed with our broad portfolio of pumps and then within our Surgery business as well as Orthopedics, as I mentioned earlier, tremendous new products to add differentiation to the portfolio. And typically, that Q4 also is a stronger one for us. So once again, very confident in our performance at around 5% on an adjusted basis and north of 6% operationally. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Jason, and thanks to everyone for your questions and your continued interest in our company. We apologize to those we couldn't get to because of time, but don't hesitate to reach out to the Investor Relations team with any remaining questions that you may have. I would now turn the call over to Joaquin for some brief closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. As you have heard, we delivered strong results in the Q3. Our high innovation and high growth portfolio and pipelines are advancing rapidly and we are increasingly confident in our expectations for 2025 and beyond. Enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's Johnson and Johnson's 3rd quarter 2024 earnings conference call. You may now disconnect.

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