NYSE:BLX Banco Latinoamericano de Comercio Exterior, S. A. Q3 2024 Earnings Report $39.35 +0.72 (+1.86%) Closing price 05/2/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$39.38 +0.03 (+0.09%) As of 05/2/2025 04:05 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Banco Latinoamericano de Comercio Exterior, S. A. EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.44Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPS$1.25Banco Latinoamericano de Comercio Exterior, S. A. Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$209.64 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABanco Latinoamericano de Comercio Exterior, S. A. Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date10/29/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, October 30, 2024Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsBanco Latinoamericano de Comercio Exterior, S. A.'s Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, May 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Tuesday, May 6, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Banco Latinoamericano de Comercio Exterior, S. A. Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 30, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Bladex Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. A slide presentation is accompanying today's webcast and is also available on the Investors section of the company's website, www.bladex.com. There will be an opportunity for you to ask questions at the end of today's presentation. Please note today's conference call is being recorded. As a reminder, all participants will be in a listen only mode. Operator00:00:33I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Jorge Salas, Chief Executive Officer. Sir, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:44Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss our Q3 results. I'll begin with an overview of another record breaking quarter for Bladex. Following that, Annie, our CFO, will provide a detailed analysis of our financial results for the quarter. Right after that, I will update you on the progress of our strategic plan and also provide a revised guidance for the remaining of the year. After that, we'll open the call for questions. Speaker 100:01:16So moving on to Slide 2, the summary slide. On the balance sheet, the commercial portfolio reached $9,700,000,000 for the first time, representing a quarter on quarter growth of 5% and a year on year growth of 17%. Deposits also reached a new record of $5,600,000,000 growing 34% in the last 12 months with corporate client deposits nearly doubling compared to last year. This remarkable growth in our most cost efficient source of funding is a result of the coordinated efforts of our commercial and treasury teams guided by clear deposit growth KPIs in their balanced scorecards. The resulting shift in the funding mix has allowed us to reduce our funding spreads. Speaker 100:02:09We're very pleased with the progress, but more importantly, we see significant potential for further expanding our deposit base in the near future. On the P and L side, despite the more competitive lending environment due to increased dollar liquidity, widely open debt capital markets for Latin American stock names, the lower local interest rates in most countries, we have once more achieved record results. I would especially like to highlight the evolution of non interest income. Total fees for the 1st 3 quarters are up 45% compared to the same period last year. The letters of credit business also had a record performance generating $7,000,000 in the last 3 months, a growth of 8% Q on Q and 12% year on year. Speaker 100:03:02Syndication fees decreased slightly this quarter, but we feel confident that with the pipeline we have, we are on track to close the year also with record figures in both number of deals in total syndication fees. Regarding expenses, as we have forecasted in previous calls, our costs have increased in line with the anticipated investments required by this second phase of our strategic plan. As a result, and in line with expectations, our efficiency ratio rose slightly to 27%, which is in line with the guidance we have been providing for the year. This strong financial results culminated in a record net income of $53,000,000 for the quarter, a 16% increase compared to the same period last year, which results in a return on equity of 16.4%. Given this stronger than expected performance, I will provide you all with a revised guidance for the year before opening the call for questions. Speaker 100:04:06Let me now hand it over to Annie, our CFO, for a detailed financial analysis. Annie, please go ahead. Speaker 200:04:14Thank you, Jorge, and good morning to everyone. Let's now move to slide 3. Quarterly profitability continues to be enhanced by sustained top line performance, as Jorge mentioned, driving 3rd quarter net income to $53,000,000 marking an annual increase of 16% and up by 6% quarter on quarter and representing a $1.44 per share. Year to date, net income for the 1st 9 months of this year reached over $154,000,000 a solid 29% growth from the same period of last year. In the graph, you can see the growth trend since we started executing our strategy in 2022, with year to date results that have more than tripled from 20 21's levels. Speaker 200:05:13The bank has sustained its profitability for the last three quarters at an ROE level above 16% and an ROA of 1.9%. When compared with the levels observed at the inception of our strategic plan, ROE has tripled from the same period of 2021, while ROA has more than doubled. Let me now go into more detail over balance sheet growth and other profitability drivers into more detail, starting with the asset composition on slide 4. Total assets reached $11,400,000,000 up by 13% from last year and 5% quarter on quarter. This was mainly the result of strong loan growth, surpassing the $8,000,000,000 mark for the first time in Bladex's history, up by 17% from last year and 9% from the preceding quarter. Speaker 200:06:19The commercial portfolio, which includes loans and off balance sheet items, reached $9,700,000,000 as our significant loan growth was coupled by a letter of credit business continuing to grow in scale. A liquidity position of $1,700,000,000 mostly placed with the New York Fed, represented 15% of total assets and 30% of deposits, reflecting a prudent liquidity management aligned with Basel's liquidity coverage ratio. As can be seen in slide number 5, on the left hand side, the securities portfolio amounting to $1,200,000,000 is mostly placed with investment grade non LatAm issuers, mostly from the U. S. Therefore providing further country risk diversification to our overall credit exposure. Speaker 200:07:20Most of this portfolio is booked in our New York agency and is therefore eligible to be discounted with the Federal Reserve, allowing for contingent liquidity funding if needed. The portfolio has a relatively short duration, with an average remaining tenure of approximately 2 years. The composition of the commercial portfolio on the right denotes a well diversified country exposure across LatAm. Brazil and Mexico represent strategic markets for Bladex, given the size of their economies and relevance to the trade activity of the region. They are among the bank's top country exposures at 14% and 11% of the total respectively, along with other relevant country exposures in South America such as Colombia at 11% and Peru at 9%. Speaker 200:08:17We are also focusing our growth strategy in certain Central American and Caribbean countries, particularly the Dominican Republic and Guatemala, both with good economic fundamentals where we continue to execute on solid risk reward opportunities, each representing 10% of total exposure at quarter end. The commercial portfolio remains short term in nature, with 75% scheduled to mature within the next year, having an average remaining tenure of 12 months at quarter end. In fact, the portfolio has a high rotation of about 2 times in a year. This means that more than half of the portfolio matures every quarter and new loans are placed. This agile business model allows us to quickly react to market conditions and be able to jump on profitable opportunities as they arise. Speaker 200:09:18This agile short term business model with a top tier client base of banks and corporations across Latin American countries and industries is the foundation of Bladex's strong asset quality as shown on slide 6. At quarter end, 95.7% of the credit portfolio, including loans, investment securities and off balance sheet items, was classified as low risk or Stage 1, as defined by IFRS 9. Only 4.1% of the portfolio was classified as Stage 2, down from close to 6% in the preceding quarter, as we collected maturities of exposures that had been classified in Stage 2 during prior quarters. Although Stage 2 exposures represent credit with increased risk since origination, all of them are currently performing. Finally, only a minimal 0.2% of total exposure is classified as Stage 3 impaired credits or NPLs, amounting to $17,000,000 with a total reserve coverage of close to 5 times. Speaker 200:10:40During the Q3, a $7,000,000 loan was classified from Stage 2 to Stage 3. This represents an isolated Colombian exposure in the oil and gas supply chain sector, which has been in run off mode since before the pandemic and which in our assessment has recently further deteriorated. Credit provision charges for the Q3 were $3,500,000 mostly relating to individual reserves in Stage 3, partly offset by a $1,000,000 recovery from a loan charged off several years back. Overall, the quality of the portfolio remains strong with a robust reserve coverage. Now moving to slide 7. Speaker 200:11:32Our well diversified funding sources continue to support strong asset growth. Our deposit base carries on with a strong growth trend, reaching yet another record level at $5,600,000,000 at quarter end, representing a notable 34% annual growth and 7% quarter on quarter. Deposits now account for 59% of total funding. Our Class A shareholders, mostly central banks who place part of their U. S. Speaker 200:12:07Dollar international reserves with us, account for 43% of total deposits, a very stable source of funding over time. The remaining 57% comes from our client banks and corporations, a source that has been showing a positive growth trend over the last several quarters as a result of our cross selling efforts. 24% of total deposits at the end of September came from our Yankee CD program, which operates out of our New York agency, predominantly through brokers dealers distribution, and continues to provide both volume and granularity. The Bank's equity position presented on slide 8 continues to be enhanced by strong earnings generation, remaining within our target capitalization levels despite strong balance sheet growth. Our Board recently declared a $0.50 per share quarterly dividend, marking the 3rd consecutive quarter at this level on the back of strong financial performance. Speaker 200:13:19We expect earnings generation to continue to support business growth, as well as dividend distribution as decided and declared by our Board on a quarterly basis. Moving on to P and L performance on Slide 9, you can see the evolution of net interest income and margins. Net interest income of $66,600,000 for the 3rd quarter was up by 10% from the year before and by 6% from the preceding quarter. This top line growth is mostly explained by the net effect of higher average loan balances, which were up by 9% annually and by 3.5% quarter on quarter, improving the mix of average interest earning assets and positively impacting net interest spread and net interest margin. Despite a more competitive market environment, as Jorge pointed out, we have been able to sustain lending credit spreads over the last several quarters, as we continue to emphasize on pricing optimization, coupled with improved levels of funding spreads benefiting from increased deposits. Speaker 200:14:32Hence, net interest spread and net interest margin for the quarter reached 1.78% and 2.55 percent respectively. Year to date, NIM at 2.49% reflects our stated target levels. As showcased in slide 10, the bank had a solid fee income performance, reaching $10,500,000 for the quarter $32,500,000 for the 1st 9 months of the year. This represents a 45% increase compared to the 1st 9 months of last year. Our letter of credit business continues to perform well, with fees for the Q3 of close to $7,000,000 As we have mentioned before, the continued growth in this business has been the result of streamlined processes and client additions. Speaker 200:15:29We are currently in the process of implementing our new LC platform, which should start to bear fruits towards the end of next year, when we should be able to further scale this important fee revenue stream. Structuring and syndication fees decreased during the Q3 to $1,500,000 having closed 2 transactions, after a stellar second quarter when we were able to close 5 transactions. As this is a transaction based business, we see some quarterly fluctuations. But in any case, we foresee a strong performance for the remaining of the year with a solid pipeline of transactions on the way. On slide 11, even though expenses for the 3rd quarter increased by 15% quarter on quarter and 8% from last year, our cost to income ratio stood at 27%, right on target. Speaker 200:16:32The main driver in expense growth is a higher salary base due to increased headcount aimed at enhancing business volumes through product deployment and client additions, as well as new functions supporting our strategy. Personnel expenses for the quarter also increased on the account of higher provisions for performance based compensation, given yet another year of earnings growth above our initial projections. Let me leave it here for now and turn the call back to Jorge. Thank you. Speaker 100:17:08Thank you, Annie. Let me now take a step back and give you a bigger strategic picture on the successive phases of our 5 year plan that we started executing in 2022. As I have mentioned in previous calls, we are transitioning from the optimization phase to the expansion phase of our plan. Phase 1 objectives have been achieved. We've optimized our balance sheet leverage. Speaker 100:17:36We've expanded our customer base preserving the risk profile. We have significantly increased deposits. We have strengthened our teams, and we have improved operational efficiencies. The results have surpassed our initial expectations, unlocking more value than we had anticipated. While we have accomplished a great deal, some of our most challenging work still lies ahead as we transition to the 2nd phase of our strategy. Speaker 100:18:10Phase 2 focuses on the expansion of our product offering. This phase involves implementing 2 new platforms to support our trade finance business and our treasury business. As we have highlighted, we believe that these two areas hold significant upside. The Trade platform will not only digitalize our letters of credit unit with a state of the art client interface, but also add substantial transactional processing power to our working capital solutions business. I'm pleased to report that we're making solid progress in the implementation with our partner CGI announced last quarter. Speaker 100:18:53Project is on target. We have already completed close to 30% of the work, and we anticipate having the platform up and running in the second half of next year. On the other hand, the treasury platform enabled us to offer derivative products to our clients and to further enhance our capability to provide local currency lending, always edging the resulting FX exposures. We believe that offering treasury products to our client base will unlock a relevant source of non interest income that Bladex has never been able to capture. These products are a natural complement of the different lines of products that the bank is already delivering, such as letters of credit, bilateral and syndicated medium term credit facilities. Speaker 100:19:45Our strong franchise provides an ample regional client platform that will leverage to foster the development of this new line of business, which we expect to gradually gain relevance as a source of income. We are now in the final stages of our vendor selection process for this initiative, so you can expect to see a joint press release regarding this partnership in the upcoming weeks. To sum up, the results we've reported in the last 9 quarters are essentially the consequence of the implementation of the initial phase, the optimization phase that is, of our strategic plan. The potential benefits of Phase 2 are not yet reflected in these numbers, which means there is substantial additional upside, particularly in non interest income generation as we gradually roll out these new capabilities in the coming quarters. This additional non interest income, as Hany mentioned, will further consolidate and expand the growth trend that we have maintained in the last quarters and will be key to make our results less sensitive to market rate fluctuations, further reinforcing Bladex's capabilities to deliver robust and sustainable profitability levels. Speaker 100:21:08As far as guidance for the year, we now anticipate our commercial portfolio to grow close to 14%, given the increased demand we're seeing in most markets. In terms of deposits, we also expect to exceed our initial forecast of 12% to 14%. Given our performance thus far, we're now aiming at 30% average deposit growth for the year. We've also made significant strides in operational efficiency, and we now expect to end the year with an efficiency ratio of approximately 26%, a notable improvement from our initial estimate of 30%. As a result of these positive trends, we're revising our 2024 ROE guidance upward. Speaker 100:21:58Our new projected range is 15% to 16%, up from the initial forecast of 14% to 15%. This performance demonstrates 2 things: 1, the resilience of a uniquely flexible business model that given the short term nature of the diversified high quality loan book and essentially a matched balance sheet enables management to profitably navigate through uncertain times and 2, the disciplined execution for almost 3 years now of a well crafted strategic plan aimed at maximizing the upside potential of this unique bank. Once again, as we look forward to the future, we are confident that the full implementation of our strategic plan will unlock even greater potential for growth and value creation, building on the strong foundation we have established thus far. I'm going to leave it here and ask the operator to please open the call for questions. Thank you. Operator00:23:07Thank you very much for the presentation. We will now begin the Q and A session for investors and Our first question comes from Ricardo Buspiguel with BTG. You can open your microphone. Speaker 300:23:53Hi, everyone, and thank you for the opportunity of making questions. I have 2 here on my side. So first, we saw that part of the deceleration in the commercial portfolio came from higher loans in Brazil, right? So meanwhile, spreads in the country are a bit more meanwhile, we will see that spreads in the country are a little bit more compressed due to the higher activity in DCM, right? So I want you to understand if you are indeed seeing lower spreads in loans specifically in Brazil and if you should expect a spread compression at least in this region? Speaker 300:24:28And for my second question, I see that we have the U. S. Election approaching. So I want to hear your thoughts on how do you believe potential action of Trump could negatively impact trade volumes in LatAm, therefore, the commercial portfolio? And also how was Bladex impacted when he was elected in 2016, if there was any significant impact? Speaker 300:24:50Thank you. Speaker 100:24:53Ricardo, thank you very much for your questions. I'm going to start with the second question, but first the U. S. Elections upcoming in a few days. And then I'm going to pass it on to Samuel, our Brazilian Chief Commercial Officer, to better explain the margins and our exposures in Brazil. Speaker 100:25:24First thing I have to say is, as you mentioned, it is clear that the presidential elections in the U. S. Are very relevant for the region. The resulting effects for the overall region are hard to predict. I mean, you have short term effects, you have long term effects, you have direct, indirect, you have depending on the country and the economic dynamic of the country, you may have in the trade partners, you may have a different reality. Speaker 100:25:55Having said that, we see primarily 3 impacts. 1 is remittances flows, especially relevant for Central American countries. Also overall trade flows, particularly relevant for South American countries and Mexico, and of course inflation and interest rate which is relevant for everyone. We are monitoring the effects of remittance flows, particularly in countries where we have relevant exposures like Guatemala, for example, where we have close to 10% of exposure and remittances there represent close to 15% of GDP or the Dominican Republic or in Mexico where remittances are 3.5% of GDP. On the trade flows, we are vigilant on the ongoing tensions with China. Speaker 100:26:57Keeping in mind also that in the not so long term, additional disruptions in the global supply chains could potentially accelerate the near sharing trend as companies eventually move to Mexico or some other Central American countries looking for more resilient suppliers closer to the U. S. In any case, and having said all that, we feel confident that the short term nature of the business model will allow us to navigate the potential volatility that will for sure take place and also take advantage of the opportunities that for sure will arise given that. I don't know, Sami, you want to? Speaker 400:27:43Yes. On Brazil, thanks for the question, Nicavo. And you are right, Brazil, we are seeing more competition, particularly from the international DCM side. And that is obviously putting pressure on spreads. Brazil is probably the most competitive market of LatAm, the one that we compete. Speaker 400:28:04On the other hand, Brazil is still, I would say, quite underrepresented in our portfolio given its potential. Our growth in Brazil has more to do with the fact that we are now as we've been rolling out our new strategy. We have a better or more suited product offering for Brazil or for how sophisticated Brazilian clients are. So we are basically capturing some share on that and that is driving our growth. So everything to do with the new strategy, particularly on the structured trade finance side. Speaker 400:28:49And our growth in Brazil will not be necessarily correlated with the lower market conditions as well as GDP because, again, we are as we roll out our new strategy, we're able to onboard clients that in the past we didn't have the right product to onboard. Speaker 300:29:11Very clear guys. Thank you very much. Operator00:29:17Our next question comes from Daniel Moura with Credicorp Capital. You can open your microphone. Speaker 500:29:27Hi, good morning and thank you for the presentation. I have also a couple of questions. The first one is regarding margins. We have seen a very positive performance not only in recent quarters, but in the last couple of years. But I would like to understand what will be or what is the current NIM sensitivity to interest rates? Speaker 500:29:48And what can we expect of NIM given the decreases in interest rates coming from the Fed? And how can we think this under the analysis that you normally present considering the volume effect and the interest rate effect? Because we can initially think that we should observe a normalization of margins going forward considering the decreases in rates. And I would like to understand what will be the effect of this also on profitability given that we currently observe at 16% ROE. That will be my first question. Speaker 500:30:25And the second one is given the fact that we are now in the expansion phase with the deployment of the new 2 initiatives and the increase of not interest income, do you have a target of what percentage can that not interest income represent of the total income compared to what we are seeing right now. And if given the strong results that we are seeing right now, we can expect of a higher ROE above the current guidance between 13% 15% for 2026? Thank you so much. Speaker 100:31:09Thank you, Daniel, for your questions. On interest rate sensitivity, I'm going to let Annie, our CFO, speak to that, and then I'll tackle the second question. Speaker 200:31:24Okay. Yes. Thank you. So yes, you're right. And we have mentioned in several occasions that we are sensitive to market U. Speaker 200:31:36S. Dollar market interest rates. So as and to talk about the sensitivity or sensitivity to interest rates in net interest margin is every 100 basis points movement in interest rates could have like a 12 basis points impact on our net interest margin that all translates into like 100 basis points ROE as well. That's basically because we have a floating book in both sides of the balance sheet. And so the assets and liabilities repriced very similarly, although we do have some short term positions. Speaker 200:32:18And at the end, the overall asset yields that diminishes and that is invested by in our equity, it has an impact. And then what we see going forward is that definitely the strategy that we are having place and that pretty much relates to your second question that Jorge is going to address, but we do anticipate through the structured trade transactions that Sam mentioned and the deployment of new products both non interest and also margin related should be able to enhance our lending spreads and sustain the profitability. But I leave it for Jorge now to continue. Speaker 100:33:04Yes, that's exactly right, Hany. The platforms are exactly geared to generate additional non interest income. Currently, our non interest income represents about 13% of total revenues, and we expect this to gradually climb up to 18% by the end of 2026. That's our target as of today. Operator00:33:41Our next question comes from Miruna Chiria with Jefferies. You can open your microphone. Speaker 600:33:49Hello. Thank you very much for the presentation and for taking my question. I just had a quick one on loan growth, please. I can see that you are growing your loans 5% this quarter on what looks like very good margins as well. So I was wondering where do you see this growth over the next 2 years? Speaker 600:34:05And how do you think about the longer term growth opportunity and capital management? Thank you. Speaker 100:34:14Yeah. Well, loan growth for sure has been stronger than we initially expected this year. Brazil, Guatemala, the Dominican Republic have surpassed our initial growth estimates. Sam already talked a little bit about Brazil. Guatemala and the Dominican Republic are also noteworthy. Speaker 100:34:41They ranked 4th and 5th today in our largest exposures about 10%. In the Dominican Republic, in particular, portfolio growth has been fueled, I will say, by increased investments in the energy sector, which has been supported through our recently created product finance and infrastructure unit, along with the country's overall robust growth dynamics. Mexico represents slow and steady growth, also very much driven by the new product rollouts as part of the new strategy. That's for 2024. 2025, the way to think about portfolio or country diversification, I mean, it's relatively correlated with obviously with the size of the economy. Speaker 100:35:41There are some countries that are underrepresented in that sense, like Brazil and Mexico, like Sam said, and some countries that are overrepresented, like Guatemala or the Dominican Republic. But it's hard to say now what our exposures would be even by next year given the short term ratio of the portfolio. You want to add something Sam? Speaker 400:36:03I think we as part of the new strategy, we favor quality versus quantity. So we will continue to have our price discipline. If we see that the opportunities are there to continue to grow profitably, we will continue. We've been experiencing that. We're still rolling out the new strategy, which is opening new markets for us. Speaker 400:36:26And we believe there is we always strive also to use our capital efficiently. And we will we see there is room to grow as we grow our capital base. That is the focus, but yet maintaining pricing discipline as we establish since the initial phase of the plan. Speaker 100:36:49Yes. Good point. Operator00:37:14Our next question comes from William Hayes. Speaker 700:37:26Congratulations on some superb results. But it's interesting to note that these results haven't really moved the needle in the marketplace. And I would suggest that a payout ratio of 35% is quite conservative in both your historical and peer comparisons. Given not only your actual earnings, but expectations, and especially your focus on non interest income growth, which does not really require capital allocations. When do you intend to increase your payout of earnings through dividends? Speaker 100:38:07Good question. Annie, you want to tackle that? I mean, the let Annie compliment, but as you well know, dividend policy, it's an ongoing discussion. Broader capital management, I would say it's an ongoing discussion. In the case of Bladex, it's a quarterly decision that the Board takes. Speaker 100:38:37And the ongoing discussion revolves around total shareholder value and making sure that the upside and the stock price is there. And that's our job, but also the dividend yield is attractive enough. I don't know, Lanny, if you want to complement anything else. Speaker 200:38:55Sure. And hello, Bill. How are you? Yes, right on, Jorge. It's always a discussion. Speaker 200:39:02Sam just mentioned about us always looking at profitable opportunities. So it's a balance between growth and returning capital. Right now, we are performing very well at 16% ROE. And so that being the case, we think that the current dividend level and that's the Board's decision is pretty good. And it's an ongoing discussion at Board level on a quarterly basis. Speaker 200:39:35So I think that's all you can say about that. Speaker 700:39:41Thank you. Operator00:39:45Okay. Thank you very much. That's all the questions we have for today. I'll pass the line back to Jorge Salas for the concluding remarks. Speaker 100:39:56Thank you, Sofia. Before we conclude, I would just like to extend a warm welcome to 2 prominent sell side analysts who have recently initiated coverage on Gladex, Credicorp and BTG Pactual. The inclusion of these respected institutions in our coverage universe is a testament we feel of the growing interest in our renewed Bladex. 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A.Banco Latinoamericano de Comercio Exterior, S. A. (NYSE:BLX), a multinational bank, primarily engages in the financing of foreign trade in Latin America and the Caribbean. The company operates in two segments, Commercial and Treasury. It offers bilateral loans; structured loans including syndicated and clubbed, such as acquisition and pre-export financing, A/B loan financing, bridge loans, and liability management; and project financing. The company also provides letter of credit comprising import and export letters of credit, and credit discounting and financing, as well as usance payable at sight; stand-by services; bank guarantees, including first demand and local guarantees; import and export documentary collection; irrevocable reimbursement undertaking; and canal tolls. In addition, it offers liquidity and investment solutions, such as time deposits, DDA accounts, Yankee certificate of deposits, and EMTN private placement services, as well as supply chain finance services. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Bladex Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. A slide presentation is accompanying today's webcast and is also available on the Investors section of the company's website, www.bladex.com. There will be an opportunity for you to ask questions at the end of today's presentation. Please note today's conference call is being recorded. As a reminder, all participants will be in a listen only mode. Operator00:00:33I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Jorge Salas, Chief Executive Officer. Sir, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:44Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss our Q3 results. I'll begin with an overview of another record breaking quarter for Bladex. Following that, Annie, our CFO, will provide a detailed analysis of our financial results for the quarter. Right after that, I will update you on the progress of our strategic plan and also provide a revised guidance for the remaining of the year. After that, we'll open the call for questions. Speaker 100:01:16So moving on to Slide 2, the summary slide. On the balance sheet, the commercial portfolio reached $9,700,000,000 for the first time, representing a quarter on quarter growth of 5% and a year on year growth of 17%. Deposits also reached a new record of $5,600,000,000 growing 34% in the last 12 months with corporate client deposits nearly doubling compared to last year. This remarkable growth in our most cost efficient source of funding is a result of the coordinated efforts of our commercial and treasury teams guided by clear deposit growth KPIs in their balanced scorecards. The resulting shift in the funding mix has allowed us to reduce our funding spreads. Speaker 100:02:09We're very pleased with the progress, but more importantly, we see significant potential for further expanding our deposit base in the near future. On the P and L side, despite the more competitive lending environment due to increased dollar liquidity, widely open debt capital markets for Latin American stock names, the lower local interest rates in most countries, we have once more achieved record results. I would especially like to highlight the evolution of non interest income. Total fees for the 1st 3 quarters are up 45% compared to the same period last year. The letters of credit business also had a record performance generating $7,000,000 in the last 3 months, a growth of 8% Q on Q and 12% year on year. Speaker 100:03:02Syndication fees decreased slightly this quarter, but we feel confident that with the pipeline we have, we are on track to close the year also with record figures in both number of deals in total syndication fees. Regarding expenses, as we have forecasted in previous calls, our costs have increased in line with the anticipated investments required by this second phase of our strategic plan. As a result, and in line with expectations, our efficiency ratio rose slightly to 27%, which is in line with the guidance we have been providing for the year. This strong financial results culminated in a record net income of $53,000,000 for the quarter, a 16% increase compared to the same period last year, which results in a return on equity of 16.4%. Given this stronger than expected performance, I will provide you all with a revised guidance for the year before opening the call for questions. Speaker 100:04:06Let me now hand it over to Annie, our CFO, for a detailed financial analysis. Annie, please go ahead. Speaker 200:04:14Thank you, Jorge, and good morning to everyone. Let's now move to slide 3. Quarterly profitability continues to be enhanced by sustained top line performance, as Jorge mentioned, driving 3rd quarter net income to $53,000,000 marking an annual increase of 16% and up by 6% quarter on quarter and representing a $1.44 per share. Year to date, net income for the 1st 9 months of this year reached over $154,000,000 a solid 29% growth from the same period of last year. In the graph, you can see the growth trend since we started executing our strategy in 2022, with year to date results that have more than tripled from 20 21's levels. Speaker 200:05:13The bank has sustained its profitability for the last three quarters at an ROE level above 16% and an ROA of 1.9%. When compared with the levels observed at the inception of our strategic plan, ROE has tripled from the same period of 2021, while ROA has more than doubled. Let me now go into more detail over balance sheet growth and other profitability drivers into more detail, starting with the asset composition on slide 4. Total assets reached $11,400,000,000 up by 13% from last year and 5% quarter on quarter. This was mainly the result of strong loan growth, surpassing the $8,000,000,000 mark for the first time in Bladex's history, up by 17% from last year and 9% from the preceding quarter. Speaker 200:06:19The commercial portfolio, which includes loans and off balance sheet items, reached $9,700,000,000 as our significant loan growth was coupled by a letter of credit business continuing to grow in scale. A liquidity position of $1,700,000,000 mostly placed with the New York Fed, represented 15% of total assets and 30% of deposits, reflecting a prudent liquidity management aligned with Basel's liquidity coverage ratio. As can be seen in slide number 5, on the left hand side, the securities portfolio amounting to $1,200,000,000 is mostly placed with investment grade non LatAm issuers, mostly from the U. S. Therefore providing further country risk diversification to our overall credit exposure. Speaker 200:07:20Most of this portfolio is booked in our New York agency and is therefore eligible to be discounted with the Federal Reserve, allowing for contingent liquidity funding if needed. The portfolio has a relatively short duration, with an average remaining tenure of approximately 2 years. The composition of the commercial portfolio on the right denotes a well diversified country exposure across LatAm. Brazil and Mexico represent strategic markets for Bladex, given the size of their economies and relevance to the trade activity of the region. They are among the bank's top country exposures at 14% and 11% of the total respectively, along with other relevant country exposures in South America such as Colombia at 11% and Peru at 9%. Speaker 200:08:17We are also focusing our growth strategy in certain Central American and Caribbean countries, particularly the Dominican Republic and Guatemala, both with good economic fundamentals where we continue to execute on solid risk reward opportunities, each representing 10% of total exposure at quarter end. The commercial portfolio remains short term in nature, with 75% scheduled to mature within the next year, having an average remaining tenure of 12 months at quarter end. In fact, the portfolio has a high rotation of about 2 times in a year. This means that more than half of the portfolio matures every quarter and new loans are placed. This agile business model allows us to quickly react to market conditions and be able to jump on profitable opportunities as they arise. Speaker 200:09:18This agile short term business model with a top tier client base of banks and corporations across Latin American countries and industries is the foundation of Bladex's strong asset quality as shown on slide 6. At quarter end, 95.7% of the credit portfolio, including loans, investment securities and off balance sheet items, was classified as low risk or Stage 1, as defined by IFRS 9. Only 4.1% of the portfolio was classified as Stage 2, down from close to 6% in the preceding quarter, as we collected maturities of exposures that had been classified in Stage 2 during prior quarters. Although Stage 2 exposures represent credit with increased risk since origination, all of them are currently performing. Finally, only a minimal 0.2% of total exposure is classified as Stage 3 impaired credits or NPLs, amounting to $17,000,000 with a total reserve coverage of close to 5 times. Speaker 200:10:40During the Q3, a $7,000,000 loan was classified from Stage 2 to Stage 3. This represents an isolated Colombian exposure in the oil and gas supply chain sector, which has been in run off mode since before the pandemic and which in our assessment has recently further deteriorated. Credit provision charges for the Q3 were $3,500,000 mostly relating to individual reserves in Stage 3, partly offset by a $1,000,000 recovery from a loan charged off several years back. Overall, the quality of the portfolio remains strong with a robust reserve coverage. Now moving to slide 7. Speaker 200:11:32Our well diversified funding sources continue to support strong asset growth. Our deposit base carries on with a strong growth trend, reaching yet another record level at $5,600,000,000 at quarter end, representing a notable 34% annual growth and 7% quarter on quarter. Deposits now account for 59% of total funding. Our Class A shareholders, mostly central banks who place part of their U. S. Speaker 200:12:07Dollar international reserves with us, account for 43% of total deposits, a very stable source of funding over time. The remaining 57% comes from our client banks and corporations, a source that has been showing a positive growth trend over the last several quarters as a result of our cross selling efforts. 24% of total deposits at the end of September came from our Yankee CD program, which operates out of our New York agency, predominantly through brokers dealers distribution, and continues to provide both volume and granularity. The Bank's equity position presented on slide 8 continues to be enhanced by strong earnings generation, remaining within our target capitalization levels despite strong balance sheet growth. Our Board recently declared a $0.50 per share quarterly dividend, marking the 3rd consecutive quarter at this level on the back of strong financial performance. Speaker 200:13:19We expect earnings generation to continue to support business growth, as well as dividend distribution as decided and declared by our Board on a quarterly basis. Moving on to P and L performance on Slide 9, you can see the evolution of net interest income and margins. Net interest income of $66,600,000 for the 3rd quarter was up by 10% from the year before and by 6% from the preceding quarter. This top line growth is mostly explained by the net effect of higher average loan balances, which were up by 9% annually and by 3.5% quarter on quarter, improving the mix of average interest earning assets and positively impacting net interest spread and net interest margin. Despite a more competitive market environment, as Jorge pointed out, we have been able to sustain lending credit spreads over the last several quarters, as we continue to emphasize on pricing optimization, coupled with improved levels of funding spreads benefiting from increased deposits. Speaker 200:14:32Hence, net interest spread and net interest margin for the quarter reached 1.78% and 2.55 percent respectively. Year to date, NIM at 2.49% reflects our stated target levels. As showcased in slide 10, the bank had a solid fee income performance, reaching $10,500,000 for the quarter $32,500,000 for the 1st 9 months of the year. This represents a 45% increase compared to the 1st 9 months of last year. Our letter of credit business continues to perform well, with fees for the Q3 of close to $7,000,000 As we have mentioned before, the continued growth in this business has been the result of streamlined processes and client additions. Speaker 200:15:29We are currently in the process of implementing our new LC platform, which should start to bear fruits towards the end of next year, when we should be able to further scale this important fee revenue stream. Structuring and syndication fees decreased during the Q3 to $1,500,000 having closed 2 transactions, after a stellar second quarter when we were able to close 5 transactions. As this is a transaction based business, we see some quarterly fluctuations. But in any case, we foresee a strong performance for the remaining of the year with a solid pipeline of transactions on the way. On slide 11, even though expenses for the 3rd quarter increased by 15% quarter on quarter and 8% from last year, our cost to income ratio stood at 27%, right on target. Speaker 200:16:32The main driver in expense growth is a higher salary base due to increased headcount aimed at enhancing business volumes through product deployment and client additions, as well as new functions supporting our strategy. Personnel expenses for the quarter also increased on the account of higher provisions for performance based compensation, given yet another year of earnings growth above our initial projections. Let me leave it here for now and turn the call back to Jorge. Thank you. Speaker 100:17:08Thank you, Annie. Let me now take a step back and give you a bigger strategic picture on the successive phases of our 5 year plan that we started executing in 2022. As I have mentioned in previous calls, we are transitioning from the optimization phase to the expansion phase of our plan. Phase 1 objectives have been achieved. We've optimized our balance sheet leverage. Speaker 100:17:36We've expanded our customer base preserving the risk profile. We have significantly increased deposits. We have strengthened our teams, and we have improved operational efficiencies. The results have surpassed our initial expectations, unlocking more value than we had anticipated. While we have accomplished a great deal, some of our most challenging work still lies ahead as we transition to the 2nd phase of our strategy. Speaker 100:18:10Phase 2 focuses on the expansion of our product offering. This phase involves implementing 2 new platforms to support our trade finance business and our treasury business. As we have highlighted, we believe that these two areas hold significant upside. The Trade platform will not only digitalize our letters of credit unit with a state of the art client interface, but also add substantial transactional processing power to our working capital solutions business. I'm pleased to report that we're making solid progress in the implementation with our partner CGI announced last quarter. Speaker 100:18:53Project is on target. We have already completed close to 30% of the work, and we anticipate having the platform up and running in the second half of next year. On the other hand, the treasury platform enabled us to offer derivative products to our clients and to further enhance our capability to provide local currency lending, always edging the resulting FX exposures. We believe that offering treasury products to our client base will unlock a relevant source of non interest income that Bladex has never been able to capture. These products are a natural complement of the different lines of products that the bank is already delivering, such as letters of credit, bilateral and syndicated medium term credit facilities. Speaker 100:19:45Our strong franchise provides an ample regional client platform that will leverage to foster the development of this new line of business, which we expect to gradually gain relevance as a source of income. We are now in the final stages of our vendor selection process for this initiative, so you can expect to see a joint press release regarding this partnership in the upcoming weeks. To sum up, the results we've reported in the last 9 quarters are essentially the consequence of the implementation of the initial phase, the optimization phase that is, of our strategic plan. The potential benefits of Phase 2 are not yet reflected in these numbers, which means there is substantial additional upside, particularly in non interest income generation as we gradually roll out these new capabilities in the coming quarters. This additional non interest income, as Hany mentioned, will further consolidate and expand the growth trend that we have maintained in the last quarters and will be key to make our results less sensitive to market rate fluctuations, further reinforcing Bladex's capabilities to deliver robust and sustainable profitability levels. Speaker 100:21:08As far as guidance for the year, we now anticipate our commercial portfolio to grow close to 14%, given the increased demand we're seeing in most markets. In terms of deposits, we also expect to exceed our initial forecast of 12% to 14%. Given our performance thus far, we're now aiming at 30% average deposit growth for the year. We've also made significant strides in operational efficiency, and we now expect to end the year with an efficiency ratio of approximately 26%, a notable improvement from our initial estimate of 30%. As a result of these positive trends, we're revising our 2024 ROE guidance upward. Speaker 100:21:58Our new projected range is 15% to 16%, up from the initial forecast of 14% to 15%. This performance demonstrates 2 things: 1, the resilience of a uniquely flexible business model that given the short term nature of the diversified high quality loan book and essentially a matched balance sheet enables management to profitably navigate through uncertain times and 2, the disciplined execution for almost 3 years now of a well crafted strategic plan aimed at maximizing the upside potential of this unique bank. Once again, as we look forward to the future, we are confident that the full implementation of our strategic plan will unlock even greater potential for growth and value creation, building on the strong foundation we have established thus far. I'm going to leave it here and ask the operator to please open the call for questions. Thank you. Operator00:23:07Thank you very much for the presentation. We will now begin the Q and A session for investors and Our first question comes from Ricardo Buspiguel with BTG. You can open your microphone. Speaker 300:23:53Hi, everyone, and thank you for the opportunity of making questions. I have 2 here on my side. So first, we saw that part of the deceleration in the commercial portfolio came from higher loans in Brazil, right? So meanwhile, spreads in the country are a bit more meanwhile, we will see that spreads in the country are a little bit more compressed due to the higher activity in DCM, right? So I want you to understand if you are indeed seeing lower spreads in loans specifically in Brazil and if you should expect a spread compression at least in this region? Speaker 300:24:28And for my second question, I see that we have the U. S. Election approaching. So I want to hear your thoughts on how do you believe potential action of Trump could negatively impact trade volumes in LatAm, therefore, the commercial portfolio? And also how was Bladex impacted when he was elected in 2016, if there was any significant impact? Speaker 300:24:50Thank you. Speaker 100:24:53Ricardo, thank you very much for your questions. I'm going to start with the second question, but first the U. S. Elections upcoming in a few days. And then I'm going to pass it on to Samuel, our Brazilian Chief Commercial Officer, to better explain the margins and our exposures in Brazil. Speaker 100:25:24First thing I have to say is, as you mentioned, it is clear that the presidential elections in the U. S. Are very relevant for the region. The resulting effects for the overall region are hard to predict. I mean, you have short term effects, you have long term effects, you have direct, indirect, you have depending on the country and the economic dynamic of the country, you may have in the trade partners, you may have a different reality. Speaker 100:25:55Having said that, we see primarily 3 impacts. 1 is remittances flows, especially relevant for Central American countries. Also overall trade flows, particularly relevant for South American countries and Mexico, and of course inflation and interest rate which is relevant for everyone. We are monitoring the effects of remittance flows, particularly in countries where we have relevant exposures like Guatemala, for example, where we have close to 10% of exposure and remittances there represent close to 15% of GDP or the Dominican Republic or in Mexico where remittances are 3.5% of GDP. On the trade flows, we are vigilant on the ongoing tensions with China. Speaker 100:26:57Keeping in mind also that in the not so long term, additional disruptions in the global supply chains could potentially accelerate the near sharing trend as companies eventually move to Mexico or some other Central American countries looking for more resilient suppliers closer to the U. S. In any case, and having said all that, we feel confident that the short term nature of the business model will allow us to navigate the potential volatility that will for sure take place and also take advantage of the opportunities that for sure will arise given that. I don't know, Sami, you want to? Speaker 400:27:43Yes. On Brazil, thanks for the question, Nicavo. And you are right, Brazil, we are seeing more competition, particularly from the international DCM side. And that is obviously putting pressure on spreads. Brazil is probably the most competitive market of LatAm, the one that we compete. Speaker 400:28:04On the other hand, Brazil is still, I would say, quite underrepresented in our portfolio given its potential. Our growth in Brazil has more to do with the fact that we are now as we've been rolling out our new strategy. We have a better or more suited product offering for Brazil or for how sophisticated Brazilian clients are. So we are basically capturing some share on that and that is driving our growth. So everything to do with the new strategy, particularly on the structured trade finance side. Speaker 400:28:49And our growth in Brazil will not be necessarily correlated with the lower market conditions as well as GDP because, again, we are as we roll out our new strategy, we're able to onboard clients that in the past we didn't have the right product to onboard. Speaker 300:29:11Very clear guys. Thank you very much. Operator00:29:17Our next question comes from Daniel Moura with Credicorp Capital. You can open your microphone. Speaker 500:29:27Hi, good morning and thank you for the presentation. I have also a couple of questions. The first one is regarding margins. We have seen a very positive performance not only in recent quarters, but in the last couple of years. But I would like to understand what will be or what is the current NIM sensitivity to interest rates? Speaker 500:29:48And what can we expect of NIM given the decreases in interest rates coming from the Fed? And how can we think this under the analysis that you normally present considering the volume effect and the interest rate effect? Because we can initially think that we should observe a normalization of margins going forward considering the decreases in rates. And I would like to understand what will be the effect of this also on profitability given that we currently observe at 16% ROE. That will be my first question. Speaker 500:30:25And the second one is given the fact that we are now in the expansion phase with the deployment of the new 2 initiatives and the increase of not interest income, do you have a target of what percentage can that not interest income represent of the total income compared to what we are seeing right now. And if given the strong results that we are seeing right now, we can expect of a higher ROE above the current guidance between 13% 15% for 2026? Thank you so much. Speaker 100:31:09Thank you, Daniel, for your questions. On interest rate sensitivity, I'm going to let Annie, our CFO, speak to that, and then I'll tackle the second question. Speaker 200:31:24Okay. Yes. Thank you. So yes, you're right. And we have mentioned in several occasions that we are sensitive to market U. Speaker 200:31:36S. Dollar market interest rates. So as and to talk about the sensitivity or sensitivity to interest rates in net interest margin is every 100 basis points movement in interest rates could have like a 12 basis points impact on our net interest margin that all translates into like 100 basis points ROE as well. That's basically because we have a floating book in both sides of the balance sheet. And so the assets and liabilities repriced very similarly, although we do have some short term positions. Speaker 200:32:18And at the end, the overall asset yields that diminishes and that is invested by in our equity, it has an impact. And then what we see going forward is that definitely the strategy that we are having place and that pretty much relates to your second question that Jorge is going to address, but we do anticipate through the structured trade transactions that Sam mentioned and the deployment of new products both non interest and also margin related should be able to enhance our lending spreads and sustain the profitability. But I leave it for Jorge now to continue. Speaker 100:33:04Yes, that's exactly right, Hany. The platforms are exactly geared to generate additional non interest income. Currently, our non interest income represents about 13% of total revenues, and we expect this to gradually climb up to 18% by the end of 2026. That's our target as of today. Operator00:33:41Our next question comes from Miruna Chiria with Jefferies. You can open your microphone. Speaker 600:33:49Hello. Thank you very much for the presentation and for taking my question. I just had a quick one on loan growth, please. I can see that you are growing your loans 5% this quarter on what looks like very good margins as well. So I was wondering where do you see this growth over the next 2 years? Speaker 600:34:05And how do you think about the longer term growth opportunity and capital management? Thank you. Speaker 100:34:14Yeah. Well, loan growth for sure has been stronger than we initially expected this year. Brazil, Guatemala, the Dominican Republic have surpassed our initial growth estimates. Sam already talked a little bit about Brazil. Guatemala and the Dominican Republic are also noteworthy. Speaker 100:34:41They ranked 4th and 5th today in our largest exposures about 10%. In the Dominican Republic, in particular, portfolio growth has been fueled, I will say, by increased investments in the energy sector, which has been supported through our recently created product finance and infrastructure unit, along with the country's overall robust growth dynamics. Mexico represents slow and steady growth, also very much driven by the new product rollouts as part of the new strategy. That's for 2024. 2025, the way to think about portfolio or country diversification, I mean, it's relatively correlated with obviously with the size of the economy. Speaker 100:35:41There are some countries that are underrepresented in that sense, like Brazil and Mexico, like Sam said, and some countries that are overrepresented, like Guatemala or the Dominican Republic. But it's hard to say now what our exposures would be even by next year given the short term ratio of the portfolio. You want to add something Sam? Speaker 400:36:03I think we as part of the new strategy, we favor quality versus quantity. So we will continue to have our price discipline. If we see that the opportunities are there to continue to grow profitably, we will continue. We've been experiencing that. We're still rolling out the new strategy, which is opening new markets for us. Speaker 400:36:26And we believe there is we always strive also to use our capital efficiently. And we will we see there is room to grow as we grow our capital base. That is the focus, but yet maintaining pricing discipline as we establish since the initial phase of the plan. Speaker 100:36:49Yes. Good point. Operator00:37:14Our next question comes from William Hayes. Speaker 700:37:26Congratulations on some superb results. But it's interesting to note that these results haven't really moved the needle in the marketplace. And I would suggest that a payout ratio of 35% is quite conservative in both your historical and peer comparisons. Given not only your actual earnings, but expectations, and especially your focus on non interest income growth, which does not really require capital allocations. When do you intend to increase your payout of earnings through dividends? Speaker 100:38:07Good question. Annie, you want to tackle that? I mean, the let Annie compliment, but as you well know, dividend policy, it's an ongoing discussion. Broader capital management, I would say it's an ongoing discussion. In the case of Bladex, it's a quarterly decision that the Board takes. Speaker 100:38:37And the ongoing discussion revolves around total shareholder value and making sure that the upside and the stock price is there. And that's our job, but also the dividend yield is attractive enough. I don't know, Lanny, if you want to complement anything else. Speaker 200:38:55Sure. And hello, Bill. How are you? Yes, right on, Jorge. It's always a discussion. Speaker 200:39:02Sam just mentioned about us always looking at profitable opportunities. So it's a balance between growth and returning capital. Right now, we are performing very well at 16% ROE. And so that being the case, we think that the current dividend level and that's the Board's decision is pretty good. And it's an ongoing discussion at Board level on a quarterly basis. Speaker 200:39:35So I think that's all you can say about that. Speaker 700:39:41Thank you. Operator00:39:45Okay. Thank you very much. That's all the questions we have for today. I'll pass the line back to Jorge Salas for the concluding remarks. Speaker 100:39:56Thank you, Sofia. Before we conclude, I would just like to extend a warm welcome to 2 prominent sell side analysts who have recently initiated coverage on Gladex, Credicorp and BTG Pactual. The inclusion of these respected institutions in our coverage universe is a testament we feel of the growing interest in our renewed Bladex. We look forward to engaging with their teams and appreciate their commitment to providing valuable insights to the investment community across Latin America and the world. With that, we'll leave the call there and thank you very much for joining.Read morePowered by