NYSE:IIPR Innovative Industrial Properties Q3 2024 Earnings Report $56.56 -0.08 (-0.14%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$56.58 +0.02 (+0.04%) As of 05:45 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Innovative Industrial Properties EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.37Consensus EPS $2.13Beat/MissMissed by -$0.76One Year Ago EPS$2.29Innovative Industrial Properties Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$76.53 millionExpected Revenue$77.30 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$770.00 thousandYoY Revenue Growth-1.70%Innovative Industrial Properties Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/6/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, November 7, 2024Conference Call Time1:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsInnovative Industrial Properties' Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, November 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, November 6, 2025 at 1:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Innovative Industrial Properties Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 7, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Innovative Industrial Properties reported $76.5 million in Q3 revenue and $2.25 AFFO per share, maintaining solid performance amid industry headwinds. Balance sheet remains conservative with just 11% debt-to-assets, no variable-rate debt or maturities until May 2026, and liquidity over $220 million after expanding the revolving credit line. Year-to-date leasing and development highlights include completion of five build-outs (e.g., 325k sq ft in NY, 250k sq ft in IL), re-tenanting four assets ($69 million invested), and a $5.6 million Maryland acquisition with MCP. Credit pressures emerged as deposits were applied for missed rent from Forefront (IL build-out delays), Tilt, and Emerald Growth, and IIP repossessed a Massachusetts property formerly leased to Temescal. Regulatory outlook remains mixed: four state referendums failed (FL, ND, SD adult use), Nebraska approved medical, Minnesota rules due Q1 2025, and federal rescheduling to Schedule 3 is cautiously watched. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallInnovative Industrial Properties Q3 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Innovative Industrial Properties Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brian Wolf, General Counsel. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you for joining the call. Presenting today are Alan Gold, Executive Chairman Paul Smithers, President and Chief Executive Officer David Smith, Chief Financial Officer Catherine Hastings, Chief Operating Officer and Ben Regan, Chief Investment Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made during today's conference call may be deemed forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and Speaker 200:01:02actual results Speaker 100:01:02may 1995 and actual results may differ materially due to a variety of risks, uncertainties and other factors. Please refer to the documents filed by the company with the SEC, specifically the most recent reports on Forms 10 ks and 10 Q, which identify important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from those contained in the forward looking statements. We are not obligated to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. In addition, on today's call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial information such as FFO, normalized FFO and FFO, normalized FFO and adjusted FFO. You can find this information together with reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure in our earnings release issued yesterday as well as in our 8 ks filed with the SEC. Speaker 100:02:03I'll now hand the call over to Alan. Alan? Speaker 200:02:07Thank you, Brian, and thanks to all of you for joining us this morning on our Q3 2024 earnings call. We had a solid Q3 where we generated $76,500,000 in total revenues and $2.25 in AFFO per share. In light of the crosswinds that the regulated cannabis industry has been experiencing for a number of years now, which we have discussed in detail in past quarters, we are pleased overall with how our tenants and portfolio have performed. As noted on prior calls, we achieved these results without the full impact of the rents for new leases that we executed in 2023 year to date, which we expect to commence based in part on these tenants obtaining requisite approvals to operate in addition to certain pre leased properties under development where construction needs to be completed. Ben and Catherine will provide further updates on our further progress here. Speaker 200:03:11On the investment front, we continue to be highly selective in our evaluation of opportunities, closing on a follow on transaction with one of our tenant partners MCP in Maryland last month. Of course, we continue to have what I think is one of the most resilient capital positions amongst real estate companies generally. Our total available liquidity exceeded $220,000,000 as of quarter end, fully funding all remaining development commitments and continuing to provide us with ample dry powder for additional strategic investments. And we further enhanced that liquidity position just last week, expanding our revolving line of credit by $37,500,000 and introducing 2 new banks to the syndicate. We continue to have one of the lowest levered balance sheets in the REIT industry at 11% debt to total gross assets, no variable rate debt, no debt maturities until May 2026. Speaker 200:04:17David will provide more detail as well on our financial results for the quarter and capital position. From a regulatory perspective, there's a fair amount to talk about as we digest the results of the most recent election cycle and additional state program developments, in addition to the continued progress on potential rescheduling of cannabis from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3. I will now turn the call over to Paul to discuss our thoughts on election results, Speaker 300:05:02where both presidential candidates have supported cannabis reform. While tentative results of the presidential election indicate that Donald Trump has received the necessary electoral votes as well as a Republican Senate and a House that is skewing Republican, Speaker 400:05:17we note of course the continuing strong and growing bipartisan support for cannabis reform at Speaker 300:05:24the federal level and remain optimistic on that front. Resumed President-elect Trump's recent remarks in September on federal cannabis reform are also encouraging with a focus on safe banking for state authorized companies and supporting states rights for passing and operating regulated cannabis programs. That said, the path forward on meaningful cannabis reform at the federal level does narrow in our view in the near term assuming the current expected results hold. Looking at state voting results, 4 states had cannabis legalization matters on their ballots in this election cycle including adult use programs for Florida, South Dakota, and North Dakota and medical use for Nebraska. In Florida, while Amendment 3 received majority support from voters, it failed to receive the requisite 60% voter support to legalize adult use cannabis despite the previous support from Donald Trump. Speaker 300:06:24Both North Dakota and South Dakota also failed to pass their adult use cannabis referendums. Finally, Nebraska voters approved the adoption of a medical use cannabis program with more than 2 thirds support reflecting again the large majority support for medical cannabis shown in polls of Nebraska residents. Assuming the ongoing legal challenges regarding signature for ballot access are rejected, Nebraska will join the overwhelming majority of states that have adopted a medical use cannabis program. And in Minnesota, it has been quite some time coming but the state's office of cannabis management expects to finalize rules for the adult use program in the Q1 of 2025 with the expectation of commencing adult use operations shortly thereafter. Regarding the DEA's progress on rescheduling cannabis from schedule 1 to schedule 3, we will of course be closely watching the administrative hearing on the matter, which was recently postponed from December 2nd to a date likely in early 2025. Speaker 300:07:31Visibility on rescheduling continues to be murky factoring in the administrative hearing and the tens of thousands of comments received from the public. Nonetheless, we remain cautiously optimistic that rescheduling will continue to make forward progress. Looking to the general market dynamics, while we continue to see positive incremental steps toward additional state programs coming online and more efforts to combat illicit markets, we do see continued financial pressure on licensed cannabis markets having to compete with the untaxed, unregulated and historically unchecked illicit market, especially since inflationary pressures have made consumers all the more cost conscious. To give a sense of the magnitude of the illicit market in certain states, while difficult to measure, it is estimated that the California illicit market alone is a $10,000,000,000 industry and while California authorities recently announced the seizures or eradication of over $500,000,000 of illicit cannabis year to date, that amounts to a mere 5% of the total estimated size of the illicit market. That said, we are seeing some progress in certain states and localities that have shifted priorities to more meaningful enforcement against illicit operators. Speaker 300:08:51In New York for example, pursuant to legislation passed last year that increased civil and tax penalties run licensed sales of cannabis and provided additional enforcement power to authorities, New York has seen a significant uptick in enforcement actions in the illicit market, which we believe have also contributed to a strengthening of the license market, which is on pace to potentially exceed $1,000,000,000 in regulated adult new sales in 20 24. From a capital raising and M and A perspective, while the regulated cannabis industry continues to be challenged, we are seeing signs of more activity in the debt markets for MSO refinancing, most recently evidenced by our tenant Ascend's Q3 closing on a private placement of $235,000,000 of senior secured notes due in 2029. Of course, we are closely following developments and monitoring execution of refinancing plans for a number of MSOs that have debt maturities in the coming few years with the bulk of those maturities coming in 2020 6. I'd like to now turn the call over to Ben to discuss our investment and leasing activity in Q3 and year to date. Ben? Speaker 300:10:10Thanks, Paul. Speaker 500:10:12As we've noted on prior calls this year, we've made good progress in our execution on both new investment opportunities as well as the re leasing of our vacant assets. Year to date, we have re tenanted 4 properties covering $69,000,000 in invested capital and selectively closed on new investments of just over $70,000,000 As we noted in our press release yesterday, we closed on a $5,600,000 acquisition in Maryland of a cannabis processing facility and executed a long term lease with MCP, one of our existing tenant partners. We continue to track an active pipeline across markets, evaluating opportunities and look forward to executing on new investments on a very selective disciplined basis. Within our portfolio, while the vast majority has continued to perform well despite the market headwinds, as we noted in our press release yesterday, we applied security deposits for the payments of rent from Forefront, Tilt, and Emerald Growth, where we collected partial rent from these three tenants in October. As we noted in prior calls, Forefront has experienced delays of well over a year in the development of their large scale cultivation and processing facility in Illinois, primarily as a result of issues relating to delivery of power from the local utility. Speaker 500:11:28We were pleased to see the facility complete and operational during the Q1 this year. However, this delay was understandably impactful to their expected cash flows. Also in Q3, we successfully regained possession of a property in Massachusetts, previously leased to Temescal Wellness and we'll be looking to bring in another qualified cannabis operator to that asset. With that, I'll turn it over to Catherine. Catherine? Speaker 600:11:52Thanks, Ben. We've made strong progress in 2024 year to date on closing out or nearing completion on many of our tenants' remaining development projects. We've completed 5 leased projects during the year, which are now operational for our Vireo's 325,000 Square Foot expansion in New York, Forefront's 250,000 Square Foot ground up development in Illinois, Battle Green's 157,000 Square Foot ground up development in Ohio, the 23,000 Square Foot Perez Road Development Project in California, and this quarter completing the cultivation build out of 104,000 Square Feet in our Summit Building in Michigan, which is now 100% Speaker 100:12:40100 percent operational. Speaker 600:12:40We are pleased to see that these facilities are complete and are focused on bringing the success to our remaining assets under redevelopment. Regarding our portfolio, as of September 30th, we owned 108 properties across 19 states, comprising 9,000,000 rentable square feet, including 618,000 square feet of development or redevelopment. Of these 108 properties, 105 properties are included in our operating portfolio, which was 95.7% leased at quarter end, with a weighted average remaining lease term of 14 years. Of the 3 properties under development, redevelopment, 1 was pre leased at quarter end and the remaining two assets consist of 192,000 square feet of warehouse space in San Bernardino and a 12 acre parcel of land in Texas. Our portfolio continues to be well diversified with no one tenant representing more than 17% of our annualized base rent and no state representing more than 15% of our annualized base rent. Speaker 600:13:52We have relationships with some of the largest and most experienced operators in the industry, with our leased operating portfolio comprised of 91% multistate operators and 62% leased to public company tenants. The total amount of capital invested and committed across our operating portfolio equates to $2.81 per square foot, which we believe remains significantly below replacement cost. And with that, I'll turn it over to David. David? Speaker 700:14:25Thank you, Catherine. For the Q3, we generated total revenues of 76 point $5,000,000 compared to $77,800,000 for the same period in 2023. The decrease was primarily due to a $3,000,000 loss in revenue for properties we took back possession of since the second quarter of 2023, dollars 1,300,000 in rent received during the quarter but not recognized in total revenues due to a reclassification of 2 leases as sales type leases as of January 1, 2024 and $1,300,000 of contractually due rent interest and property management fees that were not collected during the quarter. The decrease was partially offset by a $4,600,000 increase in contractual rent and property management fees, primarily due to contractual rent escalations, amendments to leases for additional improvement allowances at existing properties and new leases entered into since June 2023. Revenues for the quarter were also down sequentially versus the Q2 of this year, primarily as a result of a one time disposition lease termination fee of $3,900,000 earned in the Q2 relating to the sale of our Esperanza property in Los Angeles. Speaker 700:15:41As we noted in our press release last night, our 3rd quarter results also included $1,400,000 of security deposits applied for contractually due rent and we applied the remainder of ForeFront's security deposits totaling $500,000 for payment of rent owed for October. We are closely monitoring ForeFront's progress and at this point expect rent collection for ForeFront well below what is contractually due for the Q4. AFFO for the 3rd quarter was $64,300,000 or $2.25 per share, a 2% decrease versus the Q2 of 2024, driven primarily by one time interest payments of $1,000,000 or $0.04 per share received on a secured construction loan in the Q2 and a lease termination with Temescal in Massachusetts during the Q3. As we've noted on prior calls, while we expect the re leasing activity we achieved this year to contribute meaningfully to our long term earnings, the timeline to rent stabilization may differ between the properties as there are state and local approvals needed for these transitions, additional regulatory requirements to be completed at certain assets and some level of rent abatement is negotiated to allow for a ramping of our new tenants operations. That being said, we are seeing continued progress on this front, with Loom receiving approvals for operation of the Harvest Park facility and completion of the cultivation space for our Summit project, both in Michigan, with rent expected to ramp up in the next 3 to 6 months. Speaker 700:17:18Since our IPO in 2016, we have maintained one of the most conservative balance sheets in the REIT industry and that continued this quarter. With only $300,000,000 of debt on gross assets of $2,600,000,000 our debt to gross assets was a low 11% and our debt service coverage ratio was a strong 17 times. We expect to continue to run the business with a conservative balance sheet and maintain strong liquidity. Regarding liquidity, we finished the Q3 with over $220,000,000 of total liquidity, which is slightly higher than the Q2 and is comprised of our cash, short term investments and availability under our revolving credit facility. And just this week, we added 2 banks to our revolving line of credit, bringing it to 4 in total and expanded capacity by another $37,500,000 Our total capacity on our revolver now stands at $87,500,000 all of which is undrawn as of today. Speaker 700:18:19We are pleased that we have nearly tripled the size of this revolver since a year ago and appreciate the increasing support from our banking relationships. We are continuing to have done a lot with numerous banks regarding their interest in joining our credit facility to continue to increase the overall capacity. Finally, we opportunistically issued shares of our Series A preferred stock under our ATM program in the Q3, totaling $9,600,000 in net proceeds. As we noted previously, we entered into a new ATM program in the Q2 to provide additional flexibility in the offering of common stock on a forward basis and issuance of shares of our Series A preferred stock from time to time, and we're excited with the demand we saw for our preferred stock during the quarter. Overall, we are pleased with where we are positioned as our balance sheet remains strong with leverage amongst the lowest in the REIT industry, and we have continued to demonstrate access to many capital markets. Speaker 700:19:20With that, I will turn it back to Alan. Alan? Speaker 200:19:23Thanks, David. I'd like to note the following in closing. Speaker 800:19:28I'm proud of what our Speaker 200:19:29team has accomplished year to date, and especially in light of some of the enduring challenges faced by the regulated cannabis industry. We continue to be laser focused on maximizing the value of each property in our portfolio for the benefit of our stockholders, and I see our company as exceptionally well positioned from overall capitalization and liquidity perspectives to continue to execute on additional investments where we see the potential for exceptional risk adjusted returns. As long term owners of our company, thank you as always for your continued support. And with that, I'd like to open it up to questions. Operator, could you please open the call up for questions? Operator00:20:18We will now begin the question and answer And the first question comes from Tom Catherwood with BTIG. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:20:51Thanks and good morning everyone. Speaker 1000:20:54Good morning, Tom. Speaker 900:20:55Maybe starting with Alan or Paul, in the past, you've worked with tenants that faced operating challenges usually by doing short term lease amendments. For the tenants that paid partial or no rent in Q3, did they just stop paying out of the blue or did they come to you ahead of time looking for some kind of amendment or workout and you declined? Speaker 800:21:21So, well, first, we have worked. We continue to work with all of our tenants on understanding their businesses and making sure that we are know what they are doing and how things are going. So we are aware of what's going on with our tenants. So that's number 1. Number 2, we want to work with our tenants when they are experiencing unusual or unforeseen issues such as what we've done with Forefront with the power issue in Illinois. Speaker 800:22:03And we've been able to work through that issue with them and I think come to a very amicable and positive resolution for our shareholders and ourselves in addition to themselves. So that's what we do. Paul? Speaker 400:22:22Yes, I think Tom you've seen how we've dealt with these issues in the past. And we do take a different path depending on each situation. So if Helen described it, it's a situation that is something unusual. We saw some of this during COVID and supply chain issues. We work with that tenant. Speaker 400:22:44But on the other hand, if the situation as we've seen in the past is with a tenant that just stops paying rent and we don't see a reasonable path for them to restart paying rent and get back to even, we take a very aggressive stance in regaining possession of the property. So there's 2 paths that we take and it's really dependent on the situation. Speaker 900:23:16Got it. Appreciate those thoughts. And then maybe going over to acquisitions. Last quarter, it sounded like operators were almost in a wait and see kind of mode waiting Speaker 1000:23:27for the election, waiting to see what would happen with Speaker 900:23:32rescheduling before making any investment decisions. What worries us is a scenario where the addressable market for cultivation acquisitions with high quality operators is just more limited than once thought. How do you think of the potential to scale acquisitions and grow your portfolio without having to go further out on the risk curve with less experienced operators? Speaker 800:24:00So, I mean, I can turn it over to Ben to kind of talk about a pipeline where we still have, I think a strong pipeline. But before we do that, I mean, I think your presumption is that the industry is stalled all of a sudden because of some political outcome or something that the election perhaps that's weighing on many people's thoughts. But this industry has been around for a period of time and it's going to be around for a long period of time. And it's not going anywhere. And revenue sales are expected to increase 9% year over year. Speaker 800:24:45The industry is definitely growing. Our largest growers are constantly looking at opportunistic ways of expanding their businesses. And we believe that in 2025 with the advent of what we think is a positive outcome from rescheduling that there is going to be a significant continued resurgence of interest in the industry in addition to the continued growth of sales. Ben, you want to talk about our pipeline at all or I mean I think we've been cautiously optimistic about our pipeline. We've been looking at transactions very, very carefully given the uncertainties that we've seen and but Yes, just to reiterate, Tom, what Alan Speaker 1100:25:47is talking about is we're continuing to see that growth in the industry. To highlight again, we're expecting north of a 9% CAGR through 20 28 in the industry overall. Very happy with what we're seeing in the pipeline and the quality of the transactions and we will execute on those in 2025 on a very disciplined selective basis. Speaker 900:26:11Got it. Thank you for that color. And then last one for me if I can. Ben sticking with you for the asset that you took back in North Adams, Massachusetts. I know it's early, but what is the outlook for backfilling that space? Speaker 900:26:26And is any incremental investment needed to get the building market ready? Speaker 1200:26:33Tom, I can handle that. We just took back that facility, September 30. So like you said, it is very early in the process. But the facility is a fully built out cannabis cultivation and processing facility. And we believe that we should have the same general reusability that we've seen on other built out assets that we've re tenanted. Speaker 900:26:58Understood. That's it for me. Thanks everyone. Speaker 800:27:00Thanks Tom. Thanks. Operator00:27:04And the next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:27:10Hey, morning out there. Maybe just continuing on Tom's question on the tenant credit. A 2 parter in the tenant credit. One is you guys made an additional investment in Forefront in the second quarter. They have 4 properties and it sounds like there was only an issue with 1 of the properties. Speaker 1000:27:33So just want to get a bit more understanding on maybe it was all one lease across the 4 properties. So in order for them to not pay on 1, it implied all of them. But maybe just some more color on the comfort of giving them more investment last quarter, for properties and then a power issue on one of the properties? And then regarding the other 2 tenants, is this years ago, we used to talk or I used to talk it was my words, my words, sort of a whack a mole where there'd be a tenant issue that would get resolved, there'd be another one. So just want to understand if that maybe is in fact how the business works that there's always going to be a few tenants, not necessarily the same, but a few that are always surfacing. Speaker 1000:28:17And therefore, this isn't a bad thing. It's just part of the business. Speaker 800:28:22Well, I mean certainly there is we would love to be fully 100% leased and not have any tenants ever have a bad situation. That would be the ideal operating environment. But it would get kind of boring for you guys if we did that. You wouldn't have any questions to talk to ask us about. So this really gives us opportunities to obviously No, Speaker 1000:28:53we appreciate the excitement. Speaker 800:28:55But look, every industry has every real estate sector has ups and downs and has tenants that over expand and need to retrench. And so we're no different than all the others. The difference is we've been paid a very high adjusted rate of return for what we believe is very a much lower risk profile. And we've been paid that for a long period of time and we have a very long weighted average lease length to continue to capitalize on that disparity in our favor. With that, I'll turn it over to Ben to talk about the guidance. Speaker 1100:29:49Sure. Alex, I just wanted to touch on your question on Forefront. I mean, we did make an investment in the Illinois facility to round out construction there. We do have 4 individual leases with Forefront, but that is by far the largest and there was significant delays in construction, which understandably had an impact on their overall cash flow. That asset is in Illinois, which is one of the top 5 markets in the U. Speaker 1100:30:14S. And we feel very confident in the Illinois market. And as Paul described, we look at each of these situations individually and we're looking to maximize value of our portfolio and we feel very positive about the future resolution for these issues. Speaker 1000:30:32So was it it was just the one asset that defaulted, the other 3 were still paying. Is that that's what I hear you saying? Speaker 1100:30:42It's just again, just to talk generally, we do have cross default language on those. We look at each tenant overall with our parent company guarantees that we have on all of Speaker 1000:30:54our Speaker 1100:30:54leases. This asset given the size and what we think this is going to produce once this is fully up and running. It's going to be very meaningful to their business overall going into 2025. We really like the Illinois market. We think it's going to be a tremendous boost to their business once that Illinois building is fully operational. Speaker 1000:31:20Okay. And then Paul, on the 3 ballot defeats, it's been a while since we've had that. I don't know if that's the start of a trend or is there a read through to that? Is it that maybe states are reflecting whether or not legalizing cannabis is a good thing? Or is it just they've seen how the tax scheme has worked in other states and maybe people maybe everyone just buys from their guy and they don't need it legal? Speaker 1000:31:48Just trying to understand why we had these 3 defeats versus a long string of wins? Speaker 400:31:56Sure. Well, let me chop it up a little. If you look at the Dakotas, North and South Dakota, that's always been a challenge. And we've had such tremendous momentum in the last 10 years starting with the West Coast, starting with Colorado and those you might call with a low hanging fruit. Now that we get to this part of the 50 states, now it's getting challenging. Speaker 400:32:19The Dakotas is always going to be a challenge. Nebraska, that's the medical. There might be a legal challenge, but that's a positive. But obviously the big issue is Florida. And Florida got 56% approval and there was a ton of opposition money spent and Governor DeSantis got very aggressive. Speaker 400:32:42So that was always going to be a challenge to hit the 60%. But while I think a lot of us in the industry are disappointed, by no means are we out in Florida. I think it's a learning lesson and I expect to see it again in 2 years on the ballot. And I don't I would not look at that as a type of a momentum killer, if that's your question. I just think that as I mentioned, the battles get a little tougher now because the states that were easier to get to have already been there and are performing beautifully for the most part and generating a lot of tax revenue and jobs for the public. Speaker 400:33:29Overall, we continue to see Canvys is really becoming increasingly a bipartisan issue. And we're very encouraged about the election. We're very happy to see Donald Trump as President with regard to cannabis. We think that's a very good development. He's obviously on record supporting the rescheduling. Speaker 400:33:51He supports safe banking and he looks at cannabis as a states rights issue. We expect that to continue. We don't see no reason for him to change those positions. So we're very excited about what can happen in the next term at the federal level. We're very happy to see the Republican Senate. Speaker 400:34:16We think with Mitch McConnell's departure, we have new life in the Senate for safe banking and we think that if the House remains in Republican control that does increase chances for safe banking as well as rescheduling. So kind of dovetails into the election results, but I knew you were going to ask a question about that. So, I got ahead of you. We're very happy with the election results and what it means for the industry. Speaker 1000:34:48Paul, as always, thank you. Speaker 400:34:50All right. Thanks, Alex. Operator00:34:54And this concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Alan Gold for any closing remarks. Speaker 800:35:02Well, thank you. And thank you all for joining. I know this there was a lot of activity in the quarter and I really want to thank the team for their very strong and great work and thank the shareholders for their continued support. With that, we can finish the call. Thank you. Operator00:35:24The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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Email Address About Innovative Industrial PropertiesInnovative Industrial Properties (NYSE:IIPR) is a real estate investment trust (REIT) focused on the acquisition, ownership and management of specialized industrial properties leased to state-licensed operators in the regulated U.S. cannabis industry. The company’s portfolio includes greenhouse facilities, indoor cultivation sites, processing and distribution centers, and other purpose-built properties designed to meet stringent regulatory and operational requirements. By structuring long-term net leases, Innovative Industrial Properties provides its tenants with capital to expand and modernize their operations while maintaining stable, predictable rental income streams. Founded in 2016 and headquartered in San Diego, California, Innovative Industrial Properties was the first publicly traded REIT in the medical-cannabis sector. Since its inception, the company has pursued an acquisition strategy across multiple jurisdictions where cannabis is legal for medical or adult-use purposes. Its properties span a diverse set of states, including California, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Illinois, reflecting both mature and emerging markets. Each property is selected for its compliance readiness, strategic location and potential to support tenant growth. Under the leadership of President and Chief Executive Officer Paul E. Smith, who has more than 20 years of real estate experience, the company emphasizes disciplined underwriting, rigorous due diligence and strong tenant relationships. Innovative Industrial Properties maintains an internal team responsible for asset and property management, ensuring that facilities meet evolving regulatory standards and tenant needs. 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There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Innovative Industrial Properties Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brian Wolf, General Counsel. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you for joining the call. Presenting today are Alan Gold, Executive Chairman Paul Smithers, President and Chief Executive Officer David Smith, Chief Financial Officer Catherine Hastings, Chief Operating Officer and Ben Regan, Chief Investment Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made during today's conference call may be deemed forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and Speaker 200:01:02actual results Speaker 100:01:02may 1995 and actual results may differ materially due to a variety of risks, uncertainties and other factors. Please refer to the documents filed by the company with the SEC, specifically the most recent reports on Forms 10 ks and 10 Q, which identify important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from those contained in the forward looking statements. We are not obligated to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. In addition, on today's call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial information such as FFO, normalized FFO and FFO, normalized FFO and adjusted FFO. You can find this information together with reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure in our earnings release issued yesterday as well as in our 8 ks filed with the SEC. Speaker 100:02:03I'll now hand the call over to Alan. Alan? Speaker 200:02:07Thank you, Brian, and thanks to all of you for joining us this morning on our Q3 2024 earnings call. We had a solid Q3 where we generated $76,500,000 in total revenues and $2.25 in AFFO per share. In light of the crosswinds that the regulated cannabis industry has been experiencing for a number of years now, which we have discussed in detail in past quarters, we are pleased overall with how our tenants and portfolio have performed. As noted on prior calls, we achieved these results without the full impact of the rents for new leases that we executed in 2023 year to date, which we expect to commence based in part on these tenants obtaining requisite approvals to operate in addition to certain pre leased properties under development where construction needs to be completed. Ben and Catherine will provide further updates on our further progress here. Speaker 200:03:11On the investment front, we continue to be highly selective in our evaluation of opportunities, closing on a follow on transaction with one of our tenant partners MCP in Maryland last month. Of course, we continue to have what I think is one of the most resilient capital positions amongst real estate companies generally. Our total available liquidity exceeded $220,000,000 as of quarter end, fully funding all remaining development commitments and continuing to provide us with ample dry powder for additional strategic investments. And we further enhanced that liquidity position just last week, expanding our revolving line of credit by $37,500,000 and introducing 2 new banks to the syndicate. We continue to have one of the lowest levered balance sheets in the REIT industry at 11% debt to total gross assets, no variable rate debt, no debt maturities until May 2026. Speaker 200:04:17David will provide more detail as well on our financial results for the quarter and capital position. From a regulatory perspective, there's a fair amount to talk about as we digest the results of the most recent election cycle and additional state program developments, in addition to the continued progress on potential rescheduling of cannabis from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3. I will now turn the call over to Paul to discuss our thoughts on election results, Speaker 300:05:02where both presidential candidates have supported cannabis reform. While tentative results of the presidential election indicate that Donald Trump has received the necessary electoral votes as well as a Republican Senate and a House that is skewing Republican, Speaker 400:05:17we note of course the continuing strong and growing bipartisan support for cannabis reform at Speaker 300:05:24the federal level and remain optimistic on that front. Resumed President-elect Trump's recent remarks in September on federal cannabis reform are also encouraging with a focus on safe banking for state authorized companies and supporting states rights for passing and operating regulated cannabis programs. That said, the path forward on meaningful cannabis reform at the federal level does narrow in our view in the near term assuming the current expected results hold. Looking at state voting results, 4 states had cannabis legalization matters on their ballots in this election cycle including adult use programs for Florida, South Dakota, and North Dakota and medical use for Nebraska. In Florida, while Amendment 3 received majority support from voters, it failed to receive the requisite 60% voter support to legalize adult use cannabis despite the previous support from Donald Trump. Speaker 300:06:24Both North Dakota and South Dakota also failed to pass their adult use cannabis referendums. Finally, Nebraska voters approved the adoption of a medical use cannabis program with more than 2 thirds support reflecting again the large majority support for medical cannabis shown in polls of Nebraska residents. Assuming the ongoing legal challenges regarding signature for ballot access are rejected, Nebraska will join the overwhelming majority of states that have adopted a medical use cannabis program. And in Minnesota, it has been quite some time coming but the state's office of cannabis management expects to finalize rules for the adult use program in the Q1 of 2025 with the expectation of commencing adult use operations shortly thereafter. Regarding the DEA's progress on rescheduling cannabis from schedule 1 to schedule 3, we will of course be closely watching the administrative hearing on the matter, which was recently postponed from December 2nd to a date likely in early 2025. Speaker 300:07:31Visibility on rescheduling continues to be murky factoring in the administrative hearing and the tens of thousands of comments received from the public. Nonetheless, we remain cautiously optimistic that rescheduling will continue to make forward progress. Looking to the general market dynamics, while we continue to see positive incremental steps toward additional state programs coming online and more efforts to combat illicit markets, we do see continued financial pressure on licensed cannabis markets having to compete with the untaxed, unregulated and historically unchecked illicit market, especially since inflationary pressures have made consumers all the more cost conscious. To give a sense of the magnitude of the illicit market in certain states, while difficult to measure, it is estimated that the California illicit market alone is a $10,000,000,000 industry and while California authorities recently announced the seizures or eradication of over $500,000,000 of illicit cannabis year to date, that amounts to a mere 5% of the total estimated size of the illicit market. That said, we are seeing some progress in certain states and localities that have shifted priorities to more meaningful enforcement against illicit operators. Speaker 300:08:51In New York for example, pursuant to legislation passed last year that increased civil and tax penalties run licensed sales of cannabis and provided additional enforcement power to authorities, New York has seen a significant uptick in enforcement actions in the illicit market, which we believe have also contributed to a strengthening of the license market, which is on pace to potentially exceed $1,000,000,000 in regulated adult new sales in 20 24. From a capital raising and M and A perspective, while the regulated cannabis industry continues to be challenged, we are seeing signs of more activity in the debt markets for MSO refinancing, most recently evidenced by our tenant Ascend's Q3 closing on a private placement of $235,000,000 of senior secured notes due in 2029. Of course, we are closely following developments and monitoring execution of refinancing plans for a number of MSOs that have debt maturities in the coming few years with the bulk of those maturities coming in 2020 6. I'd like to now turn the call over to Ben to discuss our investment and leasing activity in Q3 and year to date. Ben? Speaker 300:10:10Thanks, Paul. Speaker 500:10:12As we've noted on prior calls this year, we've made good progress in our execution on both new investment opportunities as well as the re leasing of our vacant assets. Year to date, we have re tenanted 4 properties covering $69,000,000 in invested capital and selectively closed on new investments of just over $70,000,000 As we noted in our press release yesterday, we closed on a $5,600,000 acquisition in Maryland of a cannabis processing facility and executed a long term lease with MCP, one of our existing tenant partners. We continue to track an active pipeline across markets, evaluating opportunities and look forward to executing on new investments on a very selective disciplined basis. Within our portfolio, while the vast majority has continued to perform well despite the market headwinds, as we noted in our press release yesterday, we applied security deposits for the payments of rent from Forefront, Tilt, and Emerald Growth, where we collected partial rent from these three tenants in October. As we noted in prior calls, Forefront has experienced delays of well over a year in the development of their large scale cultivation and processing facility in Illinois, primarily as a result of issues relating to delivery of power from the local utility. Speaker 500:11:28We were pleased to see the facility complete and operational during the Q1 this year. However, this delay was understandably impactful to their expected cash flows. Also in Q3, we successfully regained possession of a property in Massachusetts, previously leased to Temescal Wellness and we'll be looking to bring in another qualified cannabis operator to that asset. With that, I'll turn it over to Catherine. Catherine? Speaker 600:11:52Thanks, Ben. We've made strong progress in 2024 year to date on closing out or nearing completion on many of our tenants' remaining development projects. We've completed 5 leased projects during the year, which are now operational for our Vireo's 325,000 Square Foot expansion in New York, Forefront's 250,000 Square Foot ground up development in Illinois, Battle Green's 157,000 Square Foot ground up development in Ohio, the 23,000 Square Foot Perez Road Development Project in California, and this quarter completing the cultivation build out of 104,000 Square Feet in our Summit Building in Michigan, which is now 100% Speaker 100:12:40100 percent operational. Speaker 600:12:40We are pleased to see that these facilities are complete and are focused on bringing the success to our remaining assets under redevelopment. Regarding our portfolio, as of September 30th, we owned 108 properties across 19 states, comprising 9,000,000 rentable square feet, including 618,000 square feet of development or redevelopment. Of these 108 properties, 105 properties are included in our operating portfolio, which was 95.7% leased at quarter end, with a weighted average remaining lease term of 14 years. Of the 3 properties under development, redevelopment, 1 was pre leased at quarter end and the remaining two assets consist of 192,000 square feet of warehouse space in San Bernardino and a 12 acre parcel of land in Texas. Our portfolio continues to be well diversified with no one tenant representing more than 17% of our annualized base rent and no state representing more than 15% of our annualized base rent. Speaker 600:13:52We have relationships with some of the largest and most experienced operators in the industry, with our leased operating portfolio comprised of 91% multistate operators and 62% leased to public company tenants. The total amount of capital invested and committed across our operating portfolio equates to $2.81 per square foot, which we believe remains significantly below replacement cost. And with that, I'll turn it over to David. David? Speaker 700:14:25Thank you, Catherine. For the Q3, we generated total revenues of 76 point $5,000,000 compared to $77,800,000 for the same period in 2023. The decrease was primarily due to a $3,000,000 loss in revenue for properties we took back possession of since the second quarter of 2023, dollars 1,300,000 in rent received during the quarter but not recognized in total revenues due to a reclassification of 2 leases as sales type leases as of January 1, 2024 and $1,300,000 of contractually due rent interest and property management fees that were not collected during the quarter. The decrease was partially offset by a $4,600,000 increase in contractual rent and property management fees, primarily due to contractual rent escalations, amendments to leases for additional improvement allowances at existing properties and new leases entered into since June 2023. Revenues for the quarter were also down sequentially versus the Q2 of this year, primarily as a result of a one time disposition lease termination fee of $3,900,000 earned in the Q2 relating to the sale of our Esperanza property in Los Angeles. Speaker 700:15:41As we noted in our press release last night, our 3rd quarter results also included $1,400,000 of security deposits applied for contractually due rent and we applied the remainder of ForeFront's security deposits totaling $500,000 for payment of rent owed for October. We are closely monitoring ForeFront's progress and at this point expect rent collection for ForeFront well below what is contractually due for the Q4. AFFO for the 3rd quarter was $64,300,000 or $2.25 per share, a 2% decrease versus the Q2 of 2024, driven primarily by one time interest payments of $1,000,000 or $0.04 per share received on a secured construction loan in the Q2 and a lease termination with Temescal in Massachusetts during the Q3. As we've noted on prior calls, while we expect the re leasing activity we achieved this year to contribute meaningfully to our long term earnings, the timeline to rent stabilization may differ between the properties as there are state and local approvals needed for these transitions, additional regulatory requirements to be completed at certain assets and some level of rent abatement is negotiated to allow for a ramping of our new tenants operations. That being said, we are seeing continued progress on this front, with Loom receiving approvals for operation of the Harvest Park facility and completion of the cultivation space for our Summit project, both in Michigan, with rent expected to ramp up in the next 3 to 6 months. Speaker 700:17:18Since our IPO in 2016, we have maintained one of the most conservative balance sheets in the REIT industry and that continued this quarter. With only $300,000,000 of debt on gross assets of $2,600,000,000 our debt to gross assets was a low 11% and our debt service coverage ratio was a strong 17 times. We expect to continue to run the business with a conservative balance sheet and maintain strong liquidity. Regarding liquidity, we finished the Q3 with over $220,000,000 of total liquidity, which is slightly higher than the Q2 and is comprised of our cash, short term investments and availability under our revolving credit facility. And just this week, we added 2 banks to our revolving line of credit, bringing it to 4 in total and expanded capacity by another $37,500,000 Our total capacity on our revolver now stands at $87,500,000 all of which is undrawn as of today. Speaker 700:18:19We are pleased that we have nearly tripled the size of this revolver since a year ago and appreciate the increasing support from our banking relationships. We are continuing to have done a lot with numerous banks regarding their interest in joining our credit facility to continue to increase the overall capacity. Finally, we opportunistically issued shares of our Series A preferred stock under our ATM program in the Q3, totaling $9,600,000 in net proceeds. As we noted previously, we entered into a new ATM program in the Q2 to provide additional flexibility in the offering of common stock on a forward basis and issuance of shares of our Series A preferred stock from time to time, and we're excited with the demand we saw for our preferred stock during the quarter. Overall, we are pleased with where we are positioned as our balance sheet remains strong with leverage amongst the lowest in the REIT industry, and we have continued to demonstrate access to many capital markets. Speaker 700:19:20With that, I will turn it back to Alan. Alan? Speaker 200:19:23Thanks, David. I'd like to note the following in closing. Speaker 800:19:28I'm proud of what our Speaker 200:19:29team has accomplished year to date, and especially in light of some of the enduring challenges faced by the regulated cannabis industry. We continue to be laser focused on maximizing the value of each property in our portfolio for the benefit of our stockholders, and I see our company as exceptionally well positioned from overall capitalization and liquidity perspectives to continue to execute on additional investments where we see the potential for exceptional risk adjusted returns. As long term owners of our company, thank you as always for your continued support. And with that, I'd like to open it up to questions. Operator, could you please open the call up for questions? Operator00:20:18We will now begin the question and answer And the first question comes from Tom Catherwood with BTIG. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:20:51Thanks and good morning everyone. Speaker 1000:20:54Good morning, Tom. Speaker 900:20:55Maybe starting with Alan or Paul, in the past, you've worked with tenants that faced operating challenges usually by doing short term lease amendments. For the tenants that paid partial or no rent in Q3, did they just stop paying out of the blue or did they come to you ahead of time looking for some kind of amendment or workout and you declined? Speaker 800:21:21So, well, first, we have worked. We continue to work with all of our tenants on understanding their businesses and making sure that we are know what they are doing and how things are going. So we are aware of what's going on with our tenants. So that's number 1. Number 2, we want to work with our tenants when they are experiencing unusual or unforeseen issues such as what we've done with Forefront with the power issue in Illinois. Speaker 800:22:03And we've been able to work through that issue with them and I think come to a very amicable and positive resolution for our shareholders and ourselves in addition to themselves. So that's what we do. Paul? Speaker 400:22:22Yes, I think Tom you've seen how we've dealt with these issues in the past. And we do take a different path depending on each situation. So if Helen described it, it's a situation that is something unusual. We saw some of this during COVID and supply chain issues. We work with that tenant. Speaker 400:22:44But on the other hand, if the situation as we've seen in the past is with a tenant that just stops paying rent and we don't see a reasonable path for them to restart paying rent and get back to even, we take a very aggressive stance in regaining possession of the property. So there's 2 paths that we take and it's really dependent on the situation. Speaker 900:23:16Got it. Appreciate those thoughts. And then maybe going over to acquisitions. Last quarter, it sounded like operators were almost in a wait and see kind of mode waiting Speaker 1000:23:27for the election, waiting to see what would happen with Speaker 900:23:32rescheduling before making any investment decisions. What worries us is a scenario where the addressable market for cultivation acquisitions with high quality operators is just more limited than once thought. How do you think of the potential to scale acquisitions and grow your portfolio without having to go further out on the risk curve with less experienced operators? Speaker 800:24:00So, I mean, I can turn it over to Ben to kind of talk about a pipeline where we still have, I think a strong pipeline. But before we do that, I mean, I think your presumption is that the industry is stalled all of a sudden because of some political outcome or something that the election perhaps that's weighing on many people's thoughts. But this industry has been around for a period of time and it's going to be around for a long period of time. And it's not going anywhere. And revenue sales are expected to increase 9% year over year. Speaker 800:24:45The industry is definitely growing. Our largest growers are constantly looking at opportunistic ways of expanding their businesses. And we believe that in 2025 with the advent of what we think is a positive outcome from rescheduling that there is going to be a significant continued resurgence of interest in the industry in addition to the continued growth of sales. Ben, you want to talk about our pipeline at all or I mean I think we've been cautiously optimistic about our pipeline. We've been looking at transactions very, very carefully given the uncertainties that we've seen and but Yes, just to reiterate, Tom, what Alan Speaker 1100:25:47is talking about is we're continuing to see that growth in the industry. To highlight again, we're expecting north of a 9% CAGR through 20 28 in the industry overall. Very happy with what we're seeing in the pipeline and the quality of the transactions and we will execute on those in 2025 on a very disciplined selective basis. Speaker 900:26:11Got it. Thank you for that color. And then last one for me if I can. Ben sticking with you for the asset that you took back in North Adams, Massachusetts. I know it's early, but what is the outlook for backfilling that space? Speaker 900:26:26And is any incremental investment needed to get the building market ready? Speaker 1200:26:33Tom, I can handle that. We just took back that facility, September 30. So like you said, it is very early in the process. But the facility is a fully built out cannabis cultivation and processing facility. And we believe that we should have the same general reusability that we've seen on other built out assets that we've re tenanted. Speaker 900:26:58Understood. That's it for me. Thanks everyone. Speaker 800:27:00Thanks Tom. Thanks. Operator00:27:04And the next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:27:10Hey, morning out there. Maybe just continuing on Tom's question on the tenant credit. A 2 parter in the tenant credit. One is you guys made an additional investment in Forefront in the second quarter. They have 4 properties and it sounds like there was only an issue with 1 of the properties. Speaker 1000:27:33So just want to get a bit more understanding on maybe it was all one lease across the 4 properties. So in order for them to not pay on 1, it implied all of them. But maybe just some more color on the comfort of giving them more investment last quarter, for properties and then a power issue on one of the properties? And then regarding the other 2 tenants, is this years ago, we used to talk or I used to talk it was my words, my words, sort of a whack a mole where there'd be a tenant issue that would get resolved, there'd be another one. So just want to understand if that maybe is in fact how the business works that there's always going to be a few tenants, not necessarily the same, but a few that are always surfacing. Speaker 1000:28:17And therefore, this isn't a bad thing. It's just part of the business. Speaker 800:28:22Well, I mean certainly there is we would love to be fully 100% leased and not have any tenants ever have a bad situation. That would be the ideal operating environment. But it would get kind of boring for you guys if we did that. You wouldn't have any questions to talk to ask us about. So this really gives us opportunities to obviously No, Speaker 1000:28:53we appreciate the excitement. Speaker 800:28:55But look, every industry has every real estate sector has ups and downs and has tenants that over expand and need to retrench. And so we're no different than all the others. The difference is we've been paid a very high adjusted rate of return for what we believe is very a much lower risk profile. And we've been paid that for a long period of time and we have a very long weighted average lease length to continue to capitalize on that disparity in our favor. With that, I'll turn it over to Ben to talk about the guidance. Speaker 1100:29:49Sure. Alex, I just wanted to touch on your question on Forefront. I mean, we did make an investment in the Illinois facility to round out construction there. We do have 4 individual leases with Forefront, but that is by far the largest and there was significant delays in construction, which understandably had an impact on their overall cash flow. That asset is in Illinois, which is one of the top 5 markets in the U. Speaker 1100:30:14S. And we feel very confident in the Illinois market. And as Paul described, we look at each of these situations individually and we're looking to maximize value of our portfolio and we feel very positive about the future resolution for these issues. Speaker 1000:30:32So was it it was just the one asset that defaulted, the other 3 were still paying. Is that that's what I hear you saying? Speaker 1100:30:42It's just again, just to talk generally, we do have cross default language on those. We look at each tenant overall with our parent company guarantees that we have on all of Speaker 1000:30:54our Speaker 1100:30:54leases. This asset given the size and what we think this is going to produce once this is fully up and running. It's going to be very meaningful to their business overall going into 2025. We really like the Illinois market. We think it's going to be a tremendous boost to their business once that Illinois building is fully operational. Speaker 1000:31:20Okay. And then Paul, on the 3 ballot defeats, it's been a while since we've had that. I don't know if that's the start of a trend or is there a read through to that? Is it that maybe states are reflecting whether or not legalizing cannabis is a good thing? Or is it just they've seen how the tax scheme has worked in other states and maybe people maybe everyone just buys from their guy and they don't need it legal? Speaker 1000:31:48Just trying to understand why we had these 3 defeats versus a long string of wins? Speaker 400:31:56Sure. Well, let me chop it up a little. If you look at the Dakotas, North and South Dakota, that's always been a challenge. And we've had such tremendous momentum in the last 10 years starting with the West Coast, starting with Colorado and those you might call with a low hanging fruit. Now that we get to this part of the 50 states, now it's getting challenging. Speaker 400:32:19The Dakotas is always going to be a challenge. Nebraska, that's the medical. There might be a legal challenge, but that's a positive. But obviously the big issue is Florida. And Florida got 56% approval and there was a ton of opposition money spent and Governor DeSantis got very aggressive. Speaker 400:32:42So that was always going to be a challenge to hit the 60%. But while I think a lot of us in the industry are disappointed, by no means are we out in Florida. I think it's a learning lesson and I expect to see it again in 2 years on the ballot. And I don't I would not look at that as a type of a momentum killer, if that's your question. I just think that as I mentioned, the battles get a little tougher now because the states that were easier to get to have already been there and are performing beautifully for the most part and generating a lot of tax revenue and jobs for the public. Speaker 400:33:29Overall, we continue to see Canvys is really becoming increasingly a bipartisan issue. And we're very encouraged about the election. We're very happy to see Donald Trump as President with regard to cannabis. We think that's a very good development. He's obviously on record supporting the rescheduling. Speaker 400:33:51He supports safe banking and he looks at cannabis as a states rights issue. We expect that to continue. We don't see no reason for him to change those positions. So we're very excited about what can happen in the next term at the federal level. We're very happy to see the Republican Senate. Speaker 400:34:16We think with Mitch McConnell's departure, we have new life in the Senate for safe banking and we think that if the House remains in Republican control that does increase chances for safe banking as well as rescheduling. So kind of dovetails into the election results, but I knew you were going to ask a question about that. So, I got ahead of you. We're very happy with the election results and what it means for the industry. Speaker 1000:34:48Paul, as always, thank you. Speaker 400:34:50All right. Thanks, Alex. Operator00:34:54And this concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Alan Gold for any closing remarks. Speaker 800:35:02Well, thank you. And thank you all for joining. I know this there was a lot of activity in the quarter and I really want to thank the team for their very strong and great work and thank the shareholders for their continued support. With that, we can finish the call. Thank you. Operator00:35:24The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by