NASDAQ:ESTA Establishment Labs Q3 2024 Earnings Report $34.64 -0.04 (-0.12%) Closing price 05/30/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$34.83 +0.19 (+0.55%) As of 05/30/2025 05:55 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Establishment Labs EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.59Consensus EPS -$0.61Beat/MissBeat by +$0.02One Year Ago EPS-$1.12Establishment Labs Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$40.23 millionExpected Revenue$40.60 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$370.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AEstablishment Labs Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/7/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, November 7, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsEstablishment Labs' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, August 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Establishment Labs Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 7, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. Welcome to Establishment Labs Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants will be in a listen only mode. At the end of this call, we will open the line for a question and answer session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. Operator00:00:19I will now turn the call over to your host, Raj Denhoy, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:30Thank you, operator, and thank you, Owen, for joining us. With me today is Juana Zachekone Quiros, our Chief Executive Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we'll take your questions. Before we begin, I would remind you that comments made by management during this call will include forward looking statements within the meanings of federal securities laws. These include statements on Establishment Labs' financial outlook and the company's plans and timing for product development and sales. Speaker 100:00:53These forward looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties. For a discussion of the principal risk factors and uncertainties that may affect our performance or cause actual results to differ materially from these statements, I encourage you to review our most recent annual and quarterly reports on Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q as well as SEC filings, which are available on our website at establishmentlabs.com. I'd also like to remind you that our comments may include certain non GAAP financial measures with respect to our performance, including but not limited to sales results, which can be stated on a constant currency basis or profitability of the company's business, which can be stated as EBITDA or adjusted EBITDA. Reconciliations to comparable GAAP financial measures for non GAAP measures, if available, may be found in today's press release, which is available on our website. The content of this conference call contains time sensitive information accurate only as of the date of this live broadcast, November 7, 2024. Speaker 100:01:48Except as required by law, Establishment Labs undertakes no obligation to revise or otherwise update any statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Juan Jose. Speaker 200:02:03Thank you, Raj, and good afternoon, everyone. The approval of Motiva Implants on September 26 was a watershed moment for our company and for the plastic surgery industry. The launch has exceeded even our high U. I'll provide some additional details in a moment. With the launch in the United States going so well, we have taken this opportunity to strengthen our balance sheet. Speaker 200:02:41Following FDA approval, we accessed $25,000,000 under existing credit facility. Today, we are also announcing that we have completed a registered direct offering to invest $50,000,000 at a 5% discount to our closing price. This equity raise was done in conjunction with an amendment to the Oaktree credit facility, where we can now access the remaining $25,000,000 until the end of 2025. With the capital infusion, our pro form a cash position at the end of the 3rd quarter was $114,000,000 and with the amendment, we have access to an additional $25,000,000 through the end of next year. This will allow us to fully invest in our U. Speaker 200:03:23S. Growth initiatives, as well as fund other programs that support the long term vision of our company. The Q3, we again saw the tangible results of the efforts we've undertaken over the past year to reduce our operating expenses and cash use. Our cash loss in 3Q was $14,900,000 down more than 60% from a year ago. This is all the more significant considering that we have been stepping up our investments in the United States. Speaker 200:03:53Among the recent initiatives was the decommissioning of 1 of our 3 manufacturing facilities. On September 3, we closed B15, our first facility we opened 15 years ago. Our operations team has been working to move capacity to our other 2 manufacturing 2 manufacturing facilities in Costa Rica, including our new Sulayo campus. And these efforts are expected to drive additional cost savings. As a reminder, Peter Caldini joined us in August as President and he's very focused on expanding our efforts to find efficiencies across the organization. Speaker 200:04:28EBITDA loss improved to $7,000,000 this quarter from over $16,000,000 last year. Our successful launch in the United States and the gross margin expansion it will bring along with our continued focus on cost reductions should take us to the 1st positive EBITDA quarter in 2025. Revenue in the Q3 of 2024 totaled $40,200,000 in line with our expectations and reflecting the normal seasonality we see in our markets. Overall global demand remains uneven due primarily to macroeconomic pressures. The breast implant industry has seen periods where the market ebbs and flows, but is much more about the ability of women to pay for these procedures, not their willingness to get them. Speaker 200:05:16Over time, these trends invariably normalize and we expect they will in this case as well. Once women make a decision to have a breast augmentation, they generally convert at some point. When there are microeconomic concerns pressuring demand, women that are considering augmentation, but that do not have the money to so will create demand in the future. Latin America and Brazil in particular continue to underperform right now. Demand for breast procedure is down as much as 50% in certain regions of Brazil. Speaker 200:05:49Despite the challenging macro conditions in some markets, we were able to successfully grow our OUS business behind the introduction of Motiva in China, continued growth in NIA procedures and the market share gains afforded by our differentiated product portfolio. Most important to our company's future right now is the United States and plastic surgeons in the U. S. Have welcomed a new entrant and new technology to the market with open arms. The community is incredibly active on social media, installing the benefits of our technology to their patients. Speaker 200:06:24There has been a similar response in the press, all of which creates inbound calls to plastic surgeons, some of which have been trained on Motiva and some of which are now actively reaching out to us so they can offer Motiva as well. We began shipping to accounts 2 weeks after approval. And as of last Friday, 3 weeks into the launch, we already had over 2 50 accounts on board and more than 70 had already placed orders. Right now, we are signing up to 50 new accounts every day and several accounts have already exceeded 25 orders. We may do as much as 3,000,000 in the last 2 months of the quarter alone, putting us on a strong trajectory for growth in 2025. Speaker 200:07:08We now have 32 sales reps in the field supporting our commercial activities and we expect to be at 40 by the end of the year. We are attracting the most experienced and highly regarded salespeople in our industry. The people closest to the markets are recognizing what a game changer Motiva Implants are going to be in the United States, and they are joining us at Establishment Labs. FLORA, our unique tissue expander continues to gain traction. We have completed the VAC process at 29 of the premier cancer centers in the U. Speaker 200:07:41S. And more are pending. It is notable that many these centers have expressed interest in Motiva Implants and have inquired about the potential approval dates for the breast reconstruction indications. This strong broad interest we are seeing for Motiva in the United States is not surprising. The market has seen no real innovation in decades. Speaker 200:08:03Surgeons have been forced to adapt their practices and their surgical techniques to legacy devices developed with technology from last century and US surgeons and patients are recognizing the difference with Motiva. The success of the launch in the U. S. And the recent decommissioning of 1 of our manufacturing facilities have created some short term supply challenges. We are scaling manufacturing and expect inventory pressures to abate in the Q1. Speaker 200:08:30With this strong start to sales, we are confident that U. S. Revenue in 2025 will exceed $35,000,000 MiaFemtek continues to build a new category in breast aesthetics by providing a minimally invasive solution that overcomes many of the obstacles of traditional breast augmentation, we are opening up a new group of women to breast aesthetics. It has been important for us to roll out Mia in way that establishes it as a new category that delivers on the significant potential it has for patients, clinics and our company. We have collected a number of data points over the past few quarters showing that MIA is doing just that. Speaker 200:09:12The average consideration time for MIA Femtech is 2 months compared to 3 to 7 years for traditional breast aesthetics. The premium price point at these clinics for Mia is 30% to 50% higher than the traditional breast augmentation at the same center. Throughout this year, over 40% of women who chose Mia were not seeking the proof of concept phase and we expect to see a steady increase in the number of clinics globally over 2025. We now offer 78 plastic surgeons fully certified to provide the MEA experience. 47 clinics are currently under negotiation to become MEA certified centers. Speaker 200:10:10This past week at the 9th Symposium on Ergonomic Implants in Barcelona, we shared the 3 year data from the MIA fEMTIC study. This IRB approved prospective study enrolled 100 MIA cases between December 2020 April 2021. In the 3 year analysis, there were no reports of capsular contracture and no ruptures. There continues to be no reports of infection, hematoma or seroma. And more importantly, no reports of inferior implant malposition and no changes in nipple or breast sensation. Speaker 200:10:47This means that with existent after 3 years. Mia is ushering in a new era of minimally invasive breast aesthetics. The 3 year data and the outcomes we are seeing in the real world have proven that maintaining breast tissue has advantages beyond the periprocedural benefits of a minimally invasive procedure. By not cutting the breast tissue, but rather preserving it as the tools used in MIA allow, the results can be much more predictable and stable. This concept of breast tissue preservation is starting to resonate with plastic surgeons and you will hear us talking more about it in the coming months. Speaker 200:11:33In China, we remain on track to achieve our targets this year as we are building a foundation for continued growth. Our exclusive Chinese partner in coordination with our global team is conducting medical education training and marketing events across Tier 1 and Tier 2 cities. Importantly, our Chinese partner has also signed an agreement in principle with R Bridge Fund, an affiliate of CBC Group for a strategic financing of up to $50,000,000 in non dilutive capital to fund commercial activities in support of the continuous growth of Motiva in China, as well as development towards regulatory approvals for our innovation pipeline, including Ergonomix II and Mia Femtech. We are very confident that this investment will help us become the leading technology in China. Subject to customary conditions, we anticipate this financing to close within the current quarter. Speaker 200:12:30I will now turn the call over to Raj. Speaker 100:12:34Thank you, Anoj. Total revenue for the Q3 was $40,200,000 an increase of 4.5% from the year ago period. Foreign exchange had a negligible impact on sales results in the quarter. From a regional perspective, sales in Europe, Middle East and Africa were approximately 49% of the global total, Asia Pacific 27%, Latin America 24% and North America was 1%. Latin America and in particular Brazil remain challenging. Speaker 100:13:02As we noted in previous calls, the Brazilian market continues to suffer from softer underlying demand and we do not expect to see improvement this year. Our gross profit for the Q3 was $25,700,000 or 60 0.9 percent of revenue compared to $26,100,000 or 67.7 percent of revenue for the same period in 2023. Our gross profit in the 3rd quarter was impacted by the revaluation of our euro denominated inventory at quarter end, which had a negative impact on our cost of goods. This lowered our reported gross margin by approximately 80 basis points. Average selling prices in the quarter were similar to last year. Speaker 100:13:41SG and A expenses for the Q3 declined approximately $5,900,000 to $34,100,000 compared to $40,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023. R and D expenses for the Q3 declined approximately $2,300,000 in the same quarter a year ago to $4,800,000 Total operating expenses for the Q3 were $38,900,000 a decrease of approximately $8,200,000 from the year ago period. The decrease in operating expenses in the Q3 was primarily the result of cost reduction initiatives we undertook in the second half of twenty twenty three, which we have continued into 2024, offset by increasing investments in our U. S. Commercial operation. Speaker 100:14:21Net loss from operations in the Q3 was $13,100,000 compared to a net loss of $21,000,000 in the same period in 2023. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $7,000,000 in the quarter compared to a loss of $16,300,000 in the Q3 of last year. We have taken tangible steps to reduce spending over the recent quarters and we have reduced our operating loss meaningfully even as we have increased spending on the launch of Motiva in the United States. Cash used in the quarter was $14,900,000 This compared to $38,000,000 last year. In the 3rd quarter, inventory increased in preparation for the U. Speaker 100:14:55S. Introduction of Motiva and accounts receivable were also higher as we saw higher sales to distributors. Our cash position on September 30 was $39,700,000 Following FDA approval of Motiva Implants, we drew the next $25,000,000 tranche of our credit facility on October 8. The net proceeds put our pro form a cash position at approximately 64,000,000 dollars After the market closed today, we announced completion of a registered direct offering. The offering was priced at a 5% discount to today's closing price and before expenses we raised $50,000,000 With proceeds, our pro form a cash position at the end of 3Q was approximately $114,000,000 We also announced today that we have amended our existing credit facility where we extended the time when we can draw the final $25,000,000 tranche to December 31, 2025. Speaker 100:15:49We are updating our revenue guidance for the year to $165,000,000 to $168,000,000 While we are seeing good performance in a number of regions and continue to take market share, underlying market demand remains uneven and is down in some markets. Latin America, especially Brazil in particular continued to underperform. We've also taken into consideration that while the U. S. Is off to a great start, the approval came about 6 to 8 weeks later than we had expected. Speaker 100:16:14We will give a more detailed view on 2020 when we report our 4Q results. However, for budgeting purposes, we are planning on our business outside the U. S. To grow in the mid single digits next year. And as JJ noted, we expect the U. Speaker 100:16:26S. Will exceed $35,000,000 in revenue. Our outlook for next year is also built with the intent of having our 1st EBITDA positive quarter in 2025. Thus our budgeting assumes a conservative first cut. We're not assuming a significant rebound in Brazil or other markets. Speaker 100:16:41Starting with the conservative view and setting our internal spending targets against them should allow us to confidently reach our view and setting our internal spending targets against them should allow us to confidently reach our profitability targets. Gross margins in 2024 should be approximately 100 basis points higher on an underlying basis. However, on reported basis, we expect gross margins to be similar to 2023 levels. With the higher selling prices in the U. S. Speaker 100:17:00And with our other new products, we expect gross margins will be meaningfully higher in 2025. We remain very focused on managing operating expenses which can be seen in the almost $19,000,000 reduction in operating spending over the 1st 9 months of this year compared to last year. With the FDA approval of Motive Implants and the strong demand we are seeing in the United States, we will see increased commercial and operational activity. As such, overall operating expenses will increase in the last couple of quarters. Achieving positive adjusted EBITDA and positive cash flow remain very important goals for us as a company. Speaker 100:17:30And as I noted, we're on track to turn EBITDA positive in 2025. I will now turn the call back to Juan Jose. Speaker 200:17:38Thank you, Raj. The FDA approval of Motiva has opened the door to the next phase of growth for our company. Not only do we have access to the largest global market, but the U. S. Commands among the highest gross margins in the world. Speaker 200:17:52As such, we expect to not only see growth accelerate meaningfully in 2025 and sustain at high level, but with the spending discipline we have shown over the past year and with the economics of our business in the United States, we are on a clear path to profitability. Our balance sheet has been strengthened to where we are fully funded to take advantage of our U. S. Launch and to continue to launch innovations for years to come, all of which will create value for shareholders. When we founded this company 20 years ago, we always knew that entering the U. Speaker 200:18:28S. Market was the ultimate validation for our technology. We now have the entire global market open to us and we look forward to many years of very strong Operator00:19:12Our first question comes from Alan Gong with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:19:19Hi, thanks for the question. I had the first question on the U. S. Launch, it's great to hear that it's off to a stronger than expected start. When we think about the $30,000,000 $35,000,000 plus expectations for next year, What does that really contemplate when it comes to the ramp this quarter and your ability to kind of sustain momentum next year? Speaker 200:19:48Thanks, Alan. And if I hear you correctly, I think you want to get our view on how we ramp this business. And I think I will point out to the fundamentals. Number 1, the quality of our sales reps. These are the best in the industry. Speaker 200:20:04We have now 32 and we'll have 40 by the year end. The speed at which we are onboarding new accounts, basically an average between 15 20 per day, already onboarded at 2 50 accounts, 70 have ordered more than 25 times. Social media, PR, everything that is going on speaks of the shift, the paradigm shift that we are seeing in the US market. So of course, the 1st few months, you're building your base of accounts, but these accounts are already ordering and reordering and that tells you where this is going. So I think when we speak of our ability to bring at least $35,000,000 next year, it shows our conviction that this is a market that we can take based on the quality of our technology and the differentiation. Speaker 400:21:00Got it. And then kind of my follow-up is Speaker 300:21:02on the other 2025 commentary that you gave, the kind of 5% OUS growth. Should I basically be thinking about that as your current business minus the 3,000,000 that you expect to generate from the U. S. In Q4 and growing that mid single digits? If so, I think that's kind of a good bit slower than us on the Streetwear thinking, especially with China still in the early stages of launch and that look like the rest of APAC and EMEA is doing better even if LATAM is going to continue to be weak. Speaker 300:21:32So, one, is that the right way to think about it? And 2, why would that be the case? Why wouldn't you be able to do better than mid single Speaker 100:21:42Yes, Alan thanks for the question. As we noted in the commentary, this is really a first cut at 2025 for us right and we're setting a conservative outlook to start the year. But importantly we're also building our budget against that, our expense budget against that because we've also commented about the goal we have to have an EBITDA positive quarter next year right to break into that profitability phase of the company. And so for us to start with a conservative view on the top line and then build an expense base against that is what we're trying to accomplish. But absolutely it's a conservative number to start the year and everything you're describing will play out I think for us next year. Speaker 100:22:17But again we want to just start at a place where we can build a reasonable expense base against that. Operator00:22:33Our next question comes from Matt Taylor with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:22:39Hi, thanks for taking the question. I was hoping to get a little bit more color on China. If you could talk about how you're progressing against your goals this year to get the initial stocking orders and reordering there and understand anything that you can give about China growth in 'twenty five and really want to dig into what this $50,000,000 investment does. What do you think it's going to do for the ramp of Motiva products in China? Speaker 200:23:10Yes. Thanks, Matt. So one of the important things is that China, in general, when it comes to consumer spending, it's been a tough year in China in 2024, but as you well know, the Chinese government is undertaking a series of measures to really prop up consumers across all of China. And we think it's the right time for this type of investment into the Chinese market. So we are very happy to see Motiva China, our partner, joining our bridge fund, part of CBC, for this investment. Speaker 200:23:48And this investment is to basically advance the growth of Motiva in China and also, more importantly, bring the Ergonomix II platform and EMEA to China. When it comes to EMEA, China was the number one market in our market studies. So as we look at what we have done this year, we're very happy with the things that we have undertaken in terms of the deployment of inventories into Tier 1 and Tier 2 cities, medical education across the board and continuous improvements that we are seeing in the pace of our marketing activities. So as we go into 2025 beyond, we think that this level of investment shows the commitment of our partners into making China, just like the other countries in the periphery in Asia, a leadership market for Motiva. Speaker 600:24:42And that's good. I guess just Speaker 500:24:43to help with the modeling, could you be any more specific on how China is done this year? You talked about the $10,000,000 stocking over the course of Speaker 100:24:52the year. Are you going to Speaker 500:24:53go beyond that reordering? And can you give us any color on how China could contribute next year? Speaker 100:25:01Yes, I think it's a little bit early to talk about next year. But clearly, we're on track to do the $10,000,000 that our distributor there has committed to doing. As we move into next year we'll start to see the pace of reordering but as Juan Jose noted this investment that they're receiving from CBC and the excitement we're seeing about the products there We have high hopes for what they'll do next year, but I think it's a little bit early to talk about the contribution in 2025. Operator00:25:27All right. Thanks, Brad. Our next question comes from Marie Thibault with BTIG. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:25:38Hey, good afternoon. This is Sam on for Marie. Thanks for taking the questions and formal congratulations on the U. S. Approval. Speaker 400:25:45Maybe I can start on some of the non LatAm markets. I want to better understand maybe what you're seeing in Europe and maybe some of the non China APAC markets. And then as I think about direct versus distributor, are we at a point where maybe distributors are back to normalized inventory levels? Or do you think maybe there's still some more catch up that needs to happen? Speaker 200:26:09Yes. Thank you. So over the course of this year, we have been talking about markets stabilizing at different speeds across the world, but we continue to see macroeconomic pressures, notably in LatAm and especially in Brazil. The environment is not deteriorating further in that region, but our hope for a rebound in the second half of this year has not really taken place. Now to your question, when you look at EMEA, that's a region in where we have seen markets stabilizing with actually some markets even growing and that's a region in which we have a combination of both direct markets and distributor markets. Speaker 200:26:49Then when you look at APAC, APAC has also been stabilizing, but we believe there is still room for improvement in certain markets in the region. And that is a fewer distributor region for us. I also want to point out that there is no structural change to demand for breast aesthetic procedures. The economic picture has made it harder for women to access it at this time in some regions in the world. But I really want to emphasize something. Speaker 200:27:15Make no mistake. We will grow this year in the EMEA region and APAC regions in our core business compared to 2023, and we continue to gain market share across the globe. So it is important that we say these things because we don't want the picture of our business to be one that is not based on growth as we have pointed out in the script and now. Speaker 400:27:41Really helpful, Juan Jose. Thanks for the added color there. Maybe just a follow-up question on some of the short term supply challenges. Just want to clarify, is that going to have any impact on your ability to maybe meet near term demand or is that something that should be worked through without any impact? Speaker 200:28:04I think that's an important point. We had planned for a long time the decommissioning of our B-fifteen manufacturing facility. That facility had been manufacturing for the last 15 years and it had a date for decommissioning. So we are moving capacity into our 2 other manufacturing units. So in that process, there are some pressures. Speaker 200:28:31So there will be an impact into Q4, so hence the change in the guidance for this year, but we think that this will abate by Q1. We are adding manufacturing capacity in both of these sites in one of them, including a 3rd shift, so we will be ready. Speaker 400:28:52Understood. Thanks for taking the questions. Operator00:28:57Our next question comes from Joanne Wuensch with Citi. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 700:29:03Hey, good afternoon. This is Anthony on for Joanne. Thanks for taking our questions. Do you in the U. S, do you have target U. Speaker 700:29:11S. Account number you're hunting towards that we should be thinking about? And then on the 40 reps, do you think that's sufficient to serve the U. S. Market or how should we be thinking about potentially the expansion of that sales force in 2025? Speaker 200:29:32Yes, thank you. Well, not long ago, we were talking about having 12 sales reps You've seen how fast we've moved to 32, and these are not just any sales reps. These are the best in the industry. As you can see by the speed and the quality of the accounts that we are onboarding, the speed at which they are ordering for the first time and then reordering and then when we look at from now to the end of the year, we will be adding 8 more sales reps and we will be adding more sales reps next year. As our base of accounts expands, we will be having more sales reps and that is natural. Speaker 200:30:10On top of that, I think that our entire infrastructure in the US continues to get strengthened. We are adding people in the back office. We will be adding inventories necessary for the growth, and that's what the company is focused on because if you look at next year, our plan is to take significant market share in the US market and it will be one of the key factors for our growth next year. Operator00:30:41Thanks for taking the question. Our next question is from Josh Jennings with TD Cowen. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:30:55I wanted to focus on the recently held ergonomic symposium that you guys announced, MIA, 3 year data. Can you just talk about whether or not that those data will be enough to submit to the FDA for through a supplemental PMA pathway? And have you had any discussions on the EMEA pathway with the FDA? And then the second question is just if you could maybe just give us some color on what occurred out over in Barcelona? Any new pipeline updates that you can relay or anything else, maybe even just the buzz that was out there from the clinical community? Speaker 600:31:36Thanks for taking the questions. Speaker 200:31:40Yes. Thank you, Josh. And Barcelona was once again a phenomenal opportunity for Establishment Labs to showcase its latest technological improvements. And the 3 year data of MIA is what we are about, showing with data that not only we can improve device related complications, but now with MIA, which is changing the way surgeons are doing breast augmentation and breast harmonization because of breast tissue preservation. And that what it does and the results for the study show it is that basically you're also almost eliminating technique related complications and that is a very powerful combination. Speaker 200:32:26Our future is based on breast tissue preservation across the board. You will see us talking more and more about it. We had more than 500 people in attendance and that included not only some of the best plastic surgeons around the world, but also our business partners. So I think everyone is powered up not only by the FDA approval, which of course has an effect on the image and the credibility of our entire platform across the world, but also on the things that we are bringing to market because MIA will continue to expand. We talked about 29 cities now, which is 7 more cities than last quarter, 15 more plastic surgeons, 47 clinics in the pipeline, and I think most importantly, I think that gets perhaps a little bit lost, is that this year, it's only been 12 months really since the first clinics launched and only 6 months 3 months since a big chunk of those clinics have launched. Speaker 200:33:25Yet what we see is that so far in this 1st 12 months, more than 40% of patients getting MIA are new to the category, which means they were not looking for a breast augmentation. Premium pricing, 30% to 50% over the same price in the same clinic for a traditional breast augmentation, 2 months versus 3 to 7 years consideration time. So that's what we wanted to show that this is really a new category. 2025 will be about expanding the Norif clinics, bringing the capillarity of MIA across the board by adding cities and countries. So we will be seeing, engaging and giving more data about how we grow the number of clinics and the number of procedures per clinic in 2025 because that will be the focus. Speaker 600:34:20Great. And then thanks for all that. And just maybe anything you can share just on the EMEA or U. S. Regulatory path and whether supplemental PMA is a possibility and any discussions with the agency? Speaker 200:34:35Yes, I'm sorry for not answering before. We are looking at having a conversation with the agency regarding not only EMEA, but the Ergonomix 2 platform and Mia has other components in addition to the breast implant that is part of it. So we're working hard with our regulatory team to have this conversation soon enough. So we're not trying to rush things, but at the same time, we do want to get it done. Speaker 600:35:07Thanks. And my apologies for multi layered question there. Thank you. Speaker 200:35:13No problem. Operator00:35:14Our next question comes from Anthony Petrone with Mizuho Group. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 100:35:28Anthony, are you there or muted? Operator00:35:37Anthony, are you muted? Speaker 800:35:39I was muted. I apologize for that. Thank you. And appreciate that. And thanks for fitting us in here for a question. Speaker 800:35:48I know a lot has been asked, but just a couple. Maybe on as we think about sales force build in the United States and the cadence, if you could maybe just give us an update on where you sit in the U. S. For the sales force exiting the quarter? And as you think about building that out through 2025, how should we be thinking about that from a headcount addition and just layering that into the SG and A line? Speaker 800:36:16And then secondly, maybe just a little bit of an update on NEX catalysts for additional FDA clearances following ergonomics following round in ergonomics, when could we expect ergonomics to? And anything you can share on EMEA in the U. S? I know it's a little bit further in the calendar, but any other color there would be helpful. Thanks. Speaker 200:36:48Yes. Thank you, Anthony. I think it's important to realize that we've really been speeding up the number of sales reps. Not long ago, we were at 4, then eventually 12. In the last 2 months, it's gone to 32 and we'll be at 40 by the end of the year. Speaker 200:37:06So we will continue to add more sales reps throughout next year quarter to quarter and we will do so at the speed that is required. It is important to understand that Motiva is a special type of game changing technology and it requires the time and the quality of the surgeons. So for us, it is important to be mindful of how we grow. So we talk about, we've done in the last 14 years over 85 countries' launches, so that's a lot of experience. We really know how to do this and if you look at the team that we have in place with Jeff and Anne leading that team and all of their experience, they know exactly what they are doing. Speaker 200:37:57If you look at what's coming, over the next few years, we're going to see a super cycle of innovation in the United States. We're going to get deep breast reconstruction approval indication for breast reconstruction. On top of that, we will be working towards getting the Ergonomix II platform. And from there, not only you get the program related to MIA, but also the program related to Joy and breast tissue preservation. And of course, we have other things coming that we've talked about before with JEM, which is for ergonomic modeling of the gluteal area and also our SEN sensor technology. Speaker 200:38:40So a lot of things will be coming to plastic surgeons in the United States, but I'll also point out something else that I think people should not forget and that's part of what we are talking about today is the road to profitability. If you look at the improvements over the last 12 months, not only we talked today about an increase in revenue, but also the improvement in EBITDA, 58 percent cash use, 60% improvement OpEx, 18% improvement and we've done this while reducing our entire employee base by 20% and adding US employees and investing in the US market. So I think that's a pretty impressive way to describe what this company has been doing. And now that we have the FDA approval, we will be getting into the market with the highest gross margins and I think that's what signals not only our first EBITDA positive quarter next year, but eventually how we get to cash flow positive as a company. Speaker 800:39:45Helpful. And one follow-up just on the OUS commentary guiding to 5% OUS growth. Maybe when we think about just the inputs into that forecast and potential areas of risk, but also on the flip side, where potentially can be conservative and really where I'm going is trends on the ground in China versus trends on the ground in Brazil. What gives you some encouragement in each of those regions? And where is there potential risk? Speaker 800:40:16Thanks again and congratulations on the U. S. Mofiva clearance. Speaker 100:40:28Yes, I mean as I noted earlier Anthony, I mean it's a conservative start to the year right. It's really a budgeting number for us. And so as you described there's lots of puts and takes into next year right. We're not expecting anything heroic out of China but certainly the size of that market and the investment that our partner there has received really sets that up for a nice potential run-in that market. Certainly the U. Speaker 100:40:49S. Right which I guess you're asking about OUS but the U. S. Is going to be the big driver for us next year overall for growth. And then outside, we continue to see pockets of macroeconomic softness but things can improve which we expect they will. Speaker 100:41:04As Juan Jose mentioned, we are seeing decent growth in EMEA right now, pockets of growth there. APAC is stabilizing but there's still room for improvement. LATAM has been the big weak spot for us this year and so there's a lot of room for that to start to step up. And so for us I think that what we're setting up for 2025 is really just a conservative way to start the year and we absolutely expect to do better. Speaker 200:41:28Yes and Anthony to give you more precision on path for EMEA in the US, I just want to like reinforce that we are in discussions with the FDA on pursuing the quickest pathway for it. And of course, we're going to leverage the already completed data globally like the one we showed at the World Ergonomics Symposium and we will target via a supplement of course. Operator00:41:57That is all the time we have for questions today. I will now turn the call back over to Juan Jose Jacomequeros for closing remarks. Speaker 200:42:07Thank you for joining us on today's call. We will be at several conferences over the next couple of months, including the UBS Global Healthcare Conference, the Jefferies London Healthcare Conference, the Stephens Investment Conference, the Citi Global Healthcare Conference, and the Mizuho Healthcare Conference. We look forward to seeing you at any of these events. We wish everyone continued good health and happiness.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways The U.S. launch of Motiva Implants has exceeded expectations, with over 250 accounts onboarded and 70 placing orders within three weeks, positioning the company to generate more than $35 million in U.S. revenue in 2025. Establishment Labs has strengthened its balance sheet by accessing $25 million of credit and completing a $50 million registered direct offering, resulting in a pro forma cash position of approximately $114 million plus an additional $25 million available through 2025. Cost reduction initiatives, including the decommissioning of one manufacturing facility, have driven Q3 cash loss down more than 60% year-over-year to $14.9 million and improved adjusted EBITDA loss to $7 million, with the first positive EBITDA quarter expected in 2025. MIA Femtech continues to build a new category in breast aesthetics, with three-year data showing zero complications and adoption at a premium price point, rapid two-month patient consideration times, and over 47 clinics in the certification pipeline. In China, the company’s exclusive partner has signed an agreement in principle for up to $50 million in non-dilutive financing to support Motiva’s commercial expansion and pursue regulatory approvals for the Ergonomix II platform and MIA Femtech innovations. AI Generated. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. Welcome to Establishment Labs Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants will be in a listen only mode. At the end of this call, we will open the line for a question and answer session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. Operator00:00:19I will now turn the call over to your host, Raj Denhoy, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:30Thank you, operator, and thank you, Owen, for joining us. With me today is Juana Zachekone Quiros, our Chief Executive Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we'll take your questions. Before we begin, I would remind you that comments made by management during this call will include forward looking statements within the meanings of federal securities laws. These include statements on Establishment Labs' financial outlook and the company's plans and timing for product development and sales. Speaker 100:00:53These forward looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties. For a discussion of the principal risk factors and uncertainties that may affect our performance or cause actual results to differ materially from these statements, I encourage you to review our most recent annual and quarterly reports on Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q as well as SEC filings, which are available on our website at establishmentlabs.com. I'd also like to remind you that our comments may include certain non GAAP financial measures with respect to our performance, including but not limited to sales results, which can be stated on a constant currency basis or profitability of the company's business, which can be stated as EBITDA or adjusted EBITDA. Reconciliations to comparable GAAP financial measures for non GAAP measures, if available, may be found in today's press release, which is available on our website. The content of this conference call contains time sensitive information accurate only as of the date of this live broadcast, November 7, 2024. Speaker 100:01:48Except as required by law, Establishment Labs undertakes no obligation to revise or otherwise update any statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Juan Jose. Speaker 200:02:03Thank you, Raj, and good afternoon, everyone. The approval of Motiva Implants on September 26 was a watershed moment for our company and for the plastic surgery industry. The launch has exceeded even our high U. I'll provide some additional details in a moment. With the launch in the United States going so well, we have taken this opportunity to strengthen our balance sheet. Speaker 200:02:41Following FDA approval, we accessed $25,000,000 under existing credit facility. Today, we are also announcing that we have completed a registered direct offering to invest $50,000,000 at a 5% discount to our closing price. This equity raise was done in conjunction with an amendment to the Oaktree credit facility, where we can now access the remaining $25,000,000 until the end of 2025. With the capital infusion, our pro form a cash position at the end of the 3rd quarter was $114,000,000 and with the amendment, we have access to an additional $25,000,000 through the end of next year. This will allow us to fully invest in our U. Speaker 200:03:23S. Growth initiatives, as well as fund other programs that support the long term vision of our company. The Q3, we again saw the tangible results of the efforts we've undertaken over the past year to reduce our operating expenses and cash use. Our cash loss in 3Q was $14,900,000 down more than 60% from a year ago. This is all the more significant considering that we have been stepping up our investments in the United States. Speaker 200:03:53Among the recent initiatives was the decommissioning of 1 of our 3 manufacturing facilities. On September 3, we closed B15, our first facility we opened 15 years ago. Our operations team has been working to move capacity to our other 2 manufacturing 2 manufacturing facilities in Costa Rica, including our new Sulayo campus. And these efforts are expected to drive additional cost savings. As a reminder, Peter Caldini joined us in August as President and he's very focused on expanding our efforts to find efficiencies across the organization. Speaker 200:04:28EBITDA loss improved to $7,000,000 this quarter from over $16,000,000 last year. Our successful launch in the United States and the gross margin expansion it will bring along with our continued focus on cost reductions should take us to the 1st positive EBITDA quarter in 2025. Revenue in the Q3 of 2024 totaled $40,200,000 in line with our expectations and reflecting the normal seasonality we see in our markets. Overall global demand remains uneven due primarily to macroeconomic pressures. The breast implant industry has seen periods where the market ebbs and flows, but is much more about the ability of women to pay for these procedures, not their willingness to get them. Speaker 200:05:16Over time, these trends invariably normalize and we expect they will in this case as well. Once women make a decision to have a breast augmentation, they generally convert at some point. When there are microeconomic concerns pressuring demand, women that are considering augmentation, but that do not have the money to so will create demand in the future. Latin America and Brazil in particular continue to underperform right now. Demand for breast procedure is down as much as 50% in certain regions of Brazil. Speaker 200:05:49Despite the challenging macro conditions in some markets, we were able to successfully grow our OUS business behind the introduction of Motiva in China, continued growth in NIA procedures and the market share gains afforded by our differentiated product portfolio. Most important to our company's future right now is the United States and plastic surgeons in the U. S. Have welcomed a new entrant and new technology to the market with open arms. The community is incredibly active on social media, installing the benefits of our technology to their patients. Speaker 200:06:24There has been a similar response in the press, all of which creates inbound calls to plastic surgeons, some of which have been trained on Motiva and some of which are now actively reaching out to us so they can offer Motiva as well. We began shipping to accounts 2 weeks after approval. And as of last Friday, 3 weeks into the launch, we already had over 2 50 accounts on board and more than 70 had already placed orders. Right now, we are signing up to 50 new accounts every day and several accounts have already exceeded 25 orders. We may do as much as 3,000,000 in the last 2 months of the quarter alone, putting us on a strong trajectory for growth in 2025. Speaker 200:07:08We now have 32 sales reps in the field supporting our commercial activities and we expect to be at 40 by the end of the year. We are attracting the most experienced and highly regarded salespeople in our industry. The people closest to the markets are recognizing what a game changer Motiva Implants are going to be in the United States, and they are joining us at Establishment Labs. FLORA, our unique tissue expander continues to gain traction. We have completed the VAC process at 29 of the premier cancer centers in the U. Speaker 200:07:41S. And more are pending. It is notable that many these centers have expressed interest in Motiva Implants and have inquired about the potential approval dates for the breast reconstruction indications. This strong broad interest we are seeing for Motiva in the United States is not surprising. The market has seen no real innovation in decades. Speaker 200:08:03Surgeons have been forced to adapt their practices and their surgical techniques to legacy devices developed with technology from last century and US surgeons and patients are recognizing the difference with Motiva. The success of the launch in the U. S. And the recent decommissioning of 1 of our manufacturing facilities have created some short term supply challenges. We are scaling manufacturing and expect inventory pressures to abate in the Q1. Speaker 200:08:30With this strong start to sales, we are confident that U. S. Revenue in 2025 will exceed $35,000,000 MiaFemtek continues to build a new category in breast aesthetics by providing a minimally invasive solution that overcomes many of the obstacles of traditional breast augmentation, we are opening up a new group of women to breast aesthetics. It has been important for us to roll out Mia in way that establishes it as a new category that delivers on the significant potential it has for patients, clinics and our company. We have collected a number of data points over the past few quarters showing that MIA is doing just that. Speaker 200:09:12The average consideration time for MIA Femtech is 2 months compared to 3 to 7 years for traditional breast aesthetics. The premium price point at these clinics for Mia is 30% to 50% higher than the traditional breast augmentation at the same center. Throughout this year, over 40% of women who chose Mia were not seeking the proof of concept phase and we expect to see a steady increase in the number of clinics globally over 2025. We now offer 78 plastic surgeons fully certified to provide the MEA experience. 47 clinics are currently under negotiation to become MEA certified centers. Speaker 200:10:10This past week at the 9th Symposium on Ergonomic Implants in Barcelona, we shared the 3 year data from the MIA fEMTIC study. This IRB approved prospective study enrolled 100 MIA cases between December 2020 April 2021. In the 3 year analysis, there were no reports of capsular contracture and no ruptures. There continues to be no reports of infection, hematoma or seroma. And more importantly, no reports of inferior implant malposition and no changes in nipple or breast sensation. Speaker 200:10:47This means that with existent after 3 years. Mia is ushering in a new era of minimally invasive breast aesthetics. The 3 year data and the outcomes we are seeing in the real world have proven that maintaining breast tissue has advantages beyond the periprocedural benefits of a minimally invasive procedure. By not cutting the breast tissue, but rather preserving it as the tools used in MIA allow, the results can be much more predictable and stable. This concept of breast tissue preservation is starting to resonate with plastic surgeons and you will hear us talking more about it in the coming months. Speaker 200:11:33In China, we remain on track to achieve our targets this year as we are building a foundation for continued growth. Our exclusive Chinese partner in coordination with our global team is conducting medical education training and marketing events across Tier 1 and Tier 2 cities. Importantly, our Chinese partner has also signed an agreement in principle with R Bridge Fund, an affiliate of CBC Group for a strategic financing of up to $50,000,000 in non dilutive capital to fund commercial activities in support of the continuous growth of Motiva in China, as well as development towards regulatory approvals for our innovation pipeline, including Ergonomix II and Mia Femtech. We are very confident that this investment will help us become the leading technology in China. Subject to customary conditions, we anticipate this financing to close within the current quarter. Speaker 200:12:30I will now turn the call over to Raj. Speaker 100:12:34Thank you, Anoj. Total revenue for the Q3 was $40,200,000 an increase of 4.5% from the year ago period. Foreign exchange had a negligible impact on sales results in the quarter. From a regional perspective, sales in Europe, Middle East and Africa were approximately 49% of the global total, Asia Pacific 27%, Latin America 24% and North America was 1%. Latin America and in particular Brazil remain challenging. Speaker 100:13:02As we noted in previous calls, the Brazilian market continues to suffer from softer underlying demand and we do not expect to see improvement this year. Our gross profit for the Q3 was $25,700,000 or 60 0.9 percent of revenue compared to $26,100,000 or 67.7 percent of revenue for the same period in 2023. Our gross profit in the 3rd quarter was impacted by the revaluation of our euro denominated inventory at quarter end, which had a negative impact on our cost of goods. This lowered our reported gross margin by approximately 80 basis points. Average selling prices in the quarter were similar to last year. Speaker 100:13:41SG and A expenses for the Q3 declined approximately $5,900,000 to $34,100,000 compared to $40,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023. R and D expenses for the Q3 declined approximately $2,300,000 in the same quarter a year ago to $4,800,000 Total operating expenses for the Q3 were $38,900,000 a decrease of approximately $8,200,000 from the year ago period. The decrease in operating expenses in the Q3 was primarily the result of cost reduction initiatives we undertook in the second half of twenty twenty three, which we have continued into 2024, offset by increasing investments in our U. S. Commercial operation. Speaker 100:14:21Net loss from operations in the Q3 was $13,100,000 compared to a net loss of $21,000,000 in the same period in 2023. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $7,000,000 in the quarter compared to a loss of $16,300,000 in the Q3 of last year. We have taken tangible steps to reduce spending over the recent quarters and we have reduced our operating loss meaningfully even as we have increased spending on the launch of Motiva in the United States. Cash used in the quarter was $14,900,000 This compared to $38,000,000 last year. In the 3rd quarter, inventory increased in preparation for the U. Speaker 100:14:55S. Introduction of Motiva and accounts receivable were also higher as we saw higher sales to distributors. Our cash position on September 30 was $39,700,000 Following FDA approval of Motiva Implants, we drew the next $25,000,000 tranche of our credit facility on October 8. The net proceeds put our pro form a cash position at approximately 64,000,000 dollars After the market closed today, we announced completion of a registered direct offering. The offering was priced at a 5% discount to today's closing price and before expenses we raised $50,000,000 With proceeds, our pro form a cash position at the end of 3Q was approximately $114,000,000 We also announced today that we have amended our existing credit facility where we extended the time when we can draw the final $25,000,000 tranche to December 31, 2025. Speaker 100:15:49We are updating our revenue guidance for the year to $165,000,000 to $168,000,000 While we are seeing good performance in a number of regions and continue to take market share, underlying market demand remains uneven and is down in some markets. Latin America, especially Brazil in particular continued to underperform. We've also taken into consideration that while the U. S. Is off to a great start, the approval came about 6 to 8 weeks later than we had expected. Speaker 100:16:14We will give a more detailed view on 2020 when we report our 4Q results. However, for budgeting purposes, we are planning on our business outside the U. S. To grow in the mid single digits next year. And as JJ noted, we expect the U. Speaker 100:16:26S. Will exceed $35,000,000 in revenue. Our outlook for next year is also built with the intent of having our 1st EBITDA positive quarter in 2025. Thus our budgeting assumes a conservative first cut. We're not assuming a significant rebound in Brazil or other markets. Speaker 100:16:41Starting with the conservative view and setting our internal spending targets against them should allow us to confidently reach our view and setting our internal spending targets against them should allow us to confidently reach our profitability targets. Gross margins in 2024 should be approximately 100 basis points higher on an underlying basis. However, on reported basis, we expect gross margins to be similar to 2023 levels. With the higher selling prices in the U. S. Speaker 100:17:00And with our other new products, we expect gross margins will be meaningfully higher in 2025. We remain very focused on managing operating expenses which can be seen in the almost $19,000,000 reduction in operating spending over the 1st 9 months of this year compared to last year. With the FDA approval of Motive Implants and the strong demand we are seeing in the United States, we will see increased commercial and operational activity. As such, overall operating expenses will increase in the last couple of quarters. Achieving positive adjusted EBITDA and positive cash flow remain very important goals for us as a company. Speaker 100:17:30And as I noted, we're on track to turn EBITDA positive in 2025. I will now turn the call back to Juan Jose. Speaker 200:17:38Thank you, Raj. The FDA approval of Motiva has opened the door to the next phase of growth for our company. Not only do we have access to the largest global market, but the U. S. Commands among the highest gross margins in the world. Speaker 200:17:52As such, we expect to not only see growth accelerate meaningfully in 2025 and sustain at high level, but with the spending discipline we have shown over the past year and with the economics of our business in the United States, we are on a clear path to profitability. Our balance sheet has been strengthened to where we are fully funded to take advantage of our U. S. Launch and to continue to launch innovations for years to come, all of which will create value for shareholders. When we founded this company 20 years ago, we always knew that entering the U. Speaker 200:18:28S. Market was the ultimate validation for our technology. We now have the entire global market open to us and we look forward to many years of very strong Operator00:19:12Our first question comes from Alan Gong with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:19:19Hi, thanks for the question. I had the first question on the U. S. Launch, it's great to hear that it's off to a stronger than expected start. When we think about the $30,000,000 $35,000,000 plus expectations for next year, What does that really contemplate when it comes to the ramp this quarter and your ability to kind of sustain momentum next year? Speaker 200:19:48Thanks, Alan. And if I hear you correctly, I think you want to get our view on how we ramp this business. And I think I will point out to the fundamentals. Number 1, the quality of our sales reps. These are the best in the industry. Speaker 200:20:04We have now 32 and we'll have 40 by the year end. The speed at which we are onboarding new accounts, basically an average between 15 20 per day, already onboarded at 2 50 accounts, 70 have ordered more than 25 times. Social media, PR, everything that is going on speaks of the shift, the paradigm shift that we are seeing in the US market. So of course, the 1st few months, you're building your base of accounts, but these accounts are already ordering and reordering and that tells you where this is going. So I think when we speak of our ability to bring at least $35,000,000 next year, it shows our conviction that this is a market that we can take based on the quality of our technology and the differentiation. Speaker 400:21:00Got it. And then kind of my follow-up is Speaker 300:21:02on the other 2025 commentary that you gave, the kind of 5% OUS growth. Should I basically be thinking about that as your current business minus the 3,000,000 that you expect to generate from the U. S. In Q4 and growing that mid single digits? If so, I think that's kind of a good bit slower than us on the Streetwear thinking, especially with China still in the early stages of launch and that look like the rest of APAC and EMEA is doing better even if LATAM is going to continue to be weak. Speaker 300:21:32So, one, is that the right way to think about it? And 2, why would that be the case? Why wouldn't you be able to do better than mid single Speaker 100:21:42Yes, Alan thanks for the question. As we noted in the commentary, this is really a first cut at 2025 for us right and we're setting a conservative outlook to start the year. But importantly we're also building our budget against that, our expense budget against that because we've also commented about the goal we have to have an EBITDA positive quarter next year right to break into that profitability phase of the company. And so for us to start with a conservative view on the top line and then build an expense base against that is what we're trying to accomplish. But absolutely it's a conservative number to start the year and everything you're describing will play out I think for us next year. Speaker 100:22:17But again we want to just start at a place where we can build a reasonable expense base against that. Operator00:22:33Our next question comes from Matt Taylor with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:22:39Hi, thanks for taking the question. I was hoping to get a little bit more color on China. If you could talk about how you're progressing against your goals this year to get the initial stocking orders and reordering there and understand anything that you can give about China growth in 'twenty five and really want to dig into what this $50,000,000 investment does. What do you think it's going to do for the ramp of Motiva products in China? Speaker 200:23:10Yes. Thanks, Matt. So one of the important things is that China, in general, when it comes to consumer spending, it's been a tough year in China in 2024, but as you well know, the Chinese government is undertaking a series of measures to really prop up consumers across all of China. And we think it's the right time for this type of investment into the Chinese market. So we are very happy to see Motiva China, our partner, joining our bridge fund, part of CBC, for this investment. Speaker 200:23:48And this investment is to basically advance the growth of Motiva in China and also, more importantly, bring the Ergonomix II platform and EMEA to China. When it comes to EMEA, China was the number one market in our market studies. So as we look at what we have done this year, we're very happy with the things that we have undertaken in terms of the deployment of inventories into Tier 1 and Tier 2 cities, medical education across the board and continuous improvements that we are seeing in the pace of our marketing activities. So as we go into 2025 beyond, we think that this level of investment shows the commitment of our partners into making China, just like the other countries in the periphery in Asia, a leadership market for Motiva. Speaker 600:24:42And that's good. I guess just Speaker 500:24:43to help with the modeling, could you be any more specific on how China is done this year? You talked about the $10,000,000 stocking over the course of Speaker 100:24:52the year. Are you going to Speaker 500:24:53go beyond that reordering? And can you give us any color on how China could contribute next year? Speaker 100:25:01Yes, I think it's a little bit early to talk about next year. But clearly, we're on track to do the $10,000,000 that our distributor there has committed to doing. As we move into next year we'll start to see the pace of reordering but as Juan Jose noted this investment that they're receiving from CBC and the excitement we're seeing about the products there We have high hopes for what they'll do next year, but I think it's a little bit early to talk about the contribution in 2025. Operator00:25:27All right. Thanks, Brad. Our next question comes from Marie Thibault with BTIG. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:25:38Hey, good afternoon. This is Sam on for Marie. Thanks for taking the questions and formal congratulations on the U. S. Approval. Speaker 400:25:45Maybe I can start on some of the non LatAm markets. I want to better understand maybe what you're seeing in Europe and maybe some of the non China APAC markets. And then as I think about direct versus distributor, are we at a point where maybe distributors are back to normalized inventory levels? Or do you think maybe there's still some more catch up that needs to happen? Speaker 200:26:09Yes. Thank you. So over the course of this year, we have been talking about markets stabilizing at different speeds across the world, but we continue to see macroeconomic pressures, notably in LatAm and especially in Brazil. The environment is not deteriorating further in that region, but our hope for a rebound in the second half of this year has not really taken place. Now to your question, when you look at EMEA, that's a region in where we have seen markets stabilizing with actually some markets even growing and that's a region in which we have a combination of both direct markets and distributor markets. Speaker 200:26:49Then when you look at APAC, APAC has also been stabilizing, but we believe there is still room for improvement in certain markets in the region. And that is a fewer distributor region for us. I also want to point out that there is no structural change to demand for breast aesthetic procedures. The economic picture has made it harder for women to access it at this time in some regions in the world. But I really want to emphasize something. Speaker 200:27:15Make no mistake. We will grow this year in the EMEA region and APAC regions in our core business compared to 2023, and we continue to gain market share across the globe. So it is important that we say these things because we don't want the picture of our business to be one that is not based on growth as we have pointed out in the script and now. Speaker 400:27:41Really helpful, Juan Jose. Thanks for the added color there. Maybe just a follow-up question on some of the short term supply challenges. Just want to clarify, is that going to have any impact on your ability to maybe meet near term demand or is that something that should be worked through without any impact? Speaker 200:28:04I think that's an important point. We had planned for a long time the decommissioning of our B-fifteen manufacturing facility. That facility had been manufacturing for the last 15 years and it had a date for decommissioning. So we are moving capacity into our 2 other manufacturing units. So in that process, there are some pressures. Speaker 200:28:31So there will be an impact into Q4, so hence the change in the guidance for this year, but we think that this will abate by Q1. We are adding manufacturing capacity in both of these sites in one of them, including a 3rd shift, so we will be ready. Speaker 400:28:52Understood. Thanks for taking the questions. Operator00:28:57Our next question comes from Joanne Wuensch with Citi. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 700:29:03Hey, good afternoon. This is Anthony on for Joanne. Thanks for taking our questions. Do you in the U. S, do you have target U. Speaker 700:29:11S. Account number you're hunting towards that we should be thinking about? And then on the 40 reps, do you think that's sufficient to serve the U. S. Market or how should we be thinking about potentially the expansion of that sales force in 2025? Speaker 200:29:32Yes, thank you. Well, not long ago, we were talking about having 12 sales reps You've seen how fast we've moved to 32, and these are not just any sales reps. These are the best in the industry. As you can see by the speed and the quality of the accounts that we are onboarding, the speed at which they are ordering for the first time and then reordering and then when we look at from now to the end of the year, we will be adding 8 more sales reps and we will be adding more sales reps next year. As our base of accounts expands, we will be having more sales reps and that is natural. Speaker 200:30:10On top of that, I think that our entire infrastructure in the US continues to get strengthened. We are adding people in the back office. We will be adding inventories necessary for the growth, and that's what the company is focused on because if you look at next year, our plan is to take significant market share in the US market and it will be one of the key factors for our growth next year. Operator00:30:41Thanks for taking the question. Our next question is from Josh Jennings with TD Cowen. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:30:55I wanted to focus on the recently held ergonomic symposium that you guys announced, MIA, 3 year data. Can you just talk about whether or not that those data will be enough to submit to the FDA for through a supplemental PMA pathway? And have you had any discussions on the EMEA pathway with the FDA? And then the second question is just if you could maybe just give us some color on what occurred out over in Barcelona? Any new pipeline updates that you can relay or anything else, maybe even just the buzz that was out there from the clinical community? Speaker 600:31:36Thanks for taking the questions. Speaker 200:31:40Yes. Thank you, Josh. And Barcelona was once again a phenomenal opportunity for Establishment Labs to showcase its latest technological improvements. And the 3 year data of MIA is what we are about, showing with data that not only we can improve device related complications, but now with MIA, which is changing the way surgeons are doing breast augmentation and breast harmonization because of breast tissue preservation. And that what it does and the results for the study show it is that basically you're also almost eliminating technique related complications and that is a very powerful combination. Speaker 200:32:26Our future is based on breast tissue preservation across the board. You will see us talking more and more about it. We had more than 500 people in attendance and that included not only some of the best plastic surgeons around the world, but also our business partners. So I think everyone is powered up not only by the FDA approval, which of course has an effect on the image and the credibility of our entire platform across the world, but also on the things that we are bringing to market because MIA will continue to expand. We talked about 29 cities now, which is 7 more cities than last quarter, 15 more plastic surgeons, 47 clinics in the pipeline, and I think most importantly, I think that gets perhaps a little bit lost, is that this year, it's only been 12 months really since the first clinics launched and only 6 months 3 months since a big chunk of those clinics have launched. Speaker 200:33:25Yet what we see is that so far in this 1st 12 months, more than 40% of patients getting MIA are new to the category, which means they were not looking for a breast augmentation. Premium pricing, 30% to 50% over the same price in the same clinic for a traditional breast augmentation, 2 months versus 3 to 7 years consideration time. So that's what we wanted to show that this is really a new category. 2025 will be about expanding the Norif clinics, bringing the capillarity of MIA across the board by adding cities and countries. So we will be seeing, engaging and giving more data about how we grow the number of clinics and the number of procedures per clinic in 2025 because that will be the focus. Speaker 600:34:20Great. And then thanks for all that. And just maybe anything you can share just on the EMEA or U. S. Regulatory path and whether supplemental PMA is a possibility and any discussions with the agency? Speaker 200:34:35Yes, I'm sorry for not answering before. We are looking at having a conversation with the agency regarding not only EMEA, but the Ergonomix 2 platform and Mia has other components in addition to the breast implant that is part of it. So we're working hard with our regulatory team to have this conversation soon enough. So we're not trying to rush things, but at the same time, we do want to get it done. Speaker 600:35:07Thanks. And my apologies for multi layered question there. Thank you. Speaker 200:35:13No problem. Operator00:35:14Our next question comes from Anthony Petrone with Mizuho Group. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 100:35:28Anthony, are you there or muted? Operator00:35:37Anthony, are you muted? Speaker 800:35:39I was muted. I apologize for that. Thank you. And appreciate that. And thanks for fitting us in here for a question. Speaker 800:35:48I know a lot has been asked, but just a couple. Maybe on as we think about sales force build in the United States and the cadence, if you could maybe just give us an update on where you sit in the U. S. For the sales force exiting the quarter? And as you think about building that out through 2025, how should we be thinking about that from a headcount addition and just layering that into the SG and A line? Speaker 800:36:16And then secondly, maybe just a little bit of an update on NEX catalysts for additional FDA clearances following ergonomics following round in ergonomics, when could we expect ergonomics to? And anything you can share on EMEA in the U. S? I know it's a little bit further in the calendar, but any other color there would be helpful. Thanks. Speaker 200:36:48Yes. Thank you, Anthony. I think it's important to realize that we've really been speeding up the number of sales reps. Not long ago, we were at 4, then eventually 12. In the last 2 months, it's gone to 32 and we'll be at 40 by the end of the year. Speaker 200:37:06So we will continue to add more sales reps throughout next year quarter to quarter and we will do so at the speed that is required. It is important to understand that Motiva is a special type of game changing technology and it requires the time and the quality of the surgeons. So for us, it is important to be mindful of how we grow. So we talk about, we've done in the last 14 years over 85 countries' launches, so that's a lot of experience. We really know how to do this and if you look at the team that we have in place with Jeff and Anne leading that team and all of their experience, they know exactly what they are doing. Speaker 200:37:57If you look at what's coming, over the next few years, we're going to see a super cycle of innovation in the United States. We're going to get deep breast reconstruction approval indication for breast reconstruction. On top of that, we will be working towards getting the Ergonomix II platform. And from there, not only you get the program related to MIA, but also the program related to Joy and breast tissue preservation. And of course, we have other things coming that we've talked about before with JEM, which is for ergonomic modeling of the gluteal area and also our SEN sensor technology. Speaker 200:38:40So a lot of things will be coming to plastic surgeons in the United States, but I'll also point out something else that I think people should not forget and that's part of what we are talking about today is the road to profitability. If you look at the improvements over the last 12 months, not only we talked today about an increase in revenue, but also the improvement in EBITDA, 58 percent cash use, 60% improvement OpEx, 18% improvement and we've done this while reducing our entire employee base by 20% and adding US employees and investing in the US market. So I think that's a pretty impressive way to describe what this company has been doing. And now that we have the FDA approval, we will be getting into the market with the highest gross margins and I think that's what signals not only our first EBITDA positive quarter next year, but eventually how we get to cash flow positive as a company. Speaker 800:39:45Helpful. And one follow-up just on the OUS commentary guiding to 5% OUS growth. Maybe when we think about just the inputs into that forecast and potential areas of risk, but also on the flip side, where potentially can be conservative and really where I'm going is trends on the ground in China versus trends on the ground in Brazil. What gives you some encouragement in each of those regions? And where is there potential risk? Speaker 800:40:16Thanks again and congratulations on the U. S. Mofiva clearance. Speaker 100:40:28Yes, I mean as I noted earlier Anthony, I mean it's a conservative start to the year right. It's really a budgeting number for us. And so as you described there's lots of puts and takes into next year right. We're not expecting anything heroic out of China but certainly the size of that market and the investment that our partner there has received really sets that up for a nice potential run-in that market. Certainly the U. Speaker 100:40:49S. Right which I guess you're asking about OUS but the U. S. Is going to be the big driver for us next year overall for growth. And then outside, we continue to see pockets of macroeconomic softness but things can improve which we expect they will. Speaker 100:41:04As Juan Jose mentioned, we are seeing decent growth in EMEA right now, pockets of growth there. APAC is stabilizing but there's still room for improvement. LATAM has been the big weak spot for us this year and so there's a lot of room for that to start to step up. And so for us I think that what we're setting up for 2025 is really just a conservative way to start the year and we absolutely expect to do better. Speaker 200:41:28Yes and Anthony to give you more precision on path for EMEA in the US, I just want to like reinforce that we are in discussions with the FDA on pursuing the quickest pathway for it. And of course, we're going to leverage the already completed data globally like the one we showed at the World Ergonomics Symposium and we will target via a supplement of course. Operator00:41:57That is all the time we have for questions today. I will now turn the call back over to Juan Jose Jacomequeros for closing remarks. Speaker 200:42:07Thank you for joining us on today's call. We will be at several conferences over the next couple of months, including the UBS Global Healthcare Conference, the Jefferies London Healthcare Conference, the Stephens Investment Conference, the Citi Global Healthcare Conference, and the Mizuho Healthcare Conference. We look forward to seeing you at any of these events. We wish everyone continued good health and happiness.Read morePowered by