Sunrise Realty Trust Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 7, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Sunrise Realty Trust Third Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Gabriel Katz, Chief Legal Officer.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and thank you all for joining Sunrise Realty Trust's earnings call for the quarter ended September 30, 2024. I'm joined this morning by Leonard Tanenbaum, our Executive Chairman Brian Sedris, our Chief Executive Officer and Brandon Hetzel, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to note that this call is being recorded. Replay information is included in our October 8, 2024, press release and is posted on the Investor Relations portion of our website at sunriserealtytrust.com, along with our Q3 2024 earnings release and investor presentation. Today's conference call includes forward looking statements and projections that reflect the company's current views with respect to, among other things, market developments, our investment pipeline, anticipated portfolio yield and financial performance and projections in 2024 and beyond.

Speaker 1

These statements are subject to inherent uncertainties in predicting future results. Please refer to Sunrise Realty Trust's most recent periodic filings with the SEC for certain conditions and significant factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward looking statements and projections. During today's conference call, management will refer to non GAAP financial measures, including distributable earnings. Please see our Q3 earnings release uploaded to our website for reconciliations of the non GAAP financial measures with the most directly comparable GAAP measures. The format for today's call is as follows.

Speaker 1

Len will provide introductory remarks and Brian will cover our portfolio and outlook for our pipeline. Brandon will then provide an update on our financial position. After that, we'll open the lines for Q and A. With that, I will now turn the call over to Executive Chairman, Leonard Tannebaum.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Gabe. Good morning and welcome to our first earnings conference call as a stand alone public entity. I'm excited to share that we are continuing the strong momentum we have built since our listing as an independent public company. SUNS is an important part of the TCG real estate platform. This platform consists of a number of funds focused on sourcing, underwriting and investing in commercial real estate loans.

Speaker 2

The affiliation with this platform provides SUNS with the ability to pursue larger transactions. We continue to see opportunities in the fast growing Southern United States and are benefiting from the favorable conditions in the commercial real estate market. The Federal Reserve's September interest rate cut of 50 basis points had a positive impact on buyer and borrower sentiment, with our team observing a noticeable increase in the number of sponsors seeking debt to either acquire new assets or refinance existing loans. With many providers focused on their existing portfolios and banks pulling back from the market, alternative lenders like SUNS have the opportunity to invest in deals with strong risk adjusted returns. We expect these tailwinds to persist as demand for commercial real estate debt continues to outpace its supply and interest rates come down gradually.

Speaker 2

Given these positive trends, our direct origination platform continues to source attractive deals and we have maintained an active pipeline of $1,200,000,000 Year to date, the TCG Real Estate platform and its syndicate partners have closed approximately $461,000,000 in deals, of which SUNS committed $150,000,000 We also have 4 signed term sheets across the platform totaling $235,000,000 in documentation. As of November 1, Sun's had 7 deals in our portfolio. To date, we have closed every transaction we have signed a term sheet for and we look forward to announcing additional closings in the future. Currently, our target leverage ratio is 1.5 times to 1. As Executive Chairman and the largest shareholder of SUNS, I spend a considerable amount of time thinking about our capital structure.

Speaker 2

As we grow our assets, we expect to have a balance of unsecured and secured debt. I'm thrilled to announce that just yesterday we closed a senior secured revolving credit facility with East West Bank as agent. With over $70,000,000,000 in assets under management, East West Bank has been a valued partner of mine for years. I am pleased they stepped up with an initial $50,000,000 commitment to a credit facility that can expand up to $200,000,000 in borrowing capacity. This facility offers favorable terms at SOFR plus 2.75 with an attractive floor, giving us the flexibility to strategically expand our portfolio across the Southern United States.

Speaker 2

I believe that this credit facility provides us with a competitive cost of capital that should allow for enhanced shareholder returns in the future. With that,

Speaker 3

I'll turn the call over to Brian. Thanks, Len, and good morning, everyone. We have had a busy and productive Q3 as we started trading as an independent publicly traded company on July 9. For the Q3, SUNS generated distributable earnings of $0.27 per basic weighted average share of common stock. As we previously disclosed on October 15, 2024, we paid a partial dividend of $0.21 per common share for the 3rd quarter to shareholders of record on September 30, 2024.

Speaker 3

The partial dividend reflected the fact that we were an independent public company for only part of the quarter and experienced cash drag as we invested SUNS Capital. Given the additional deals we have closed and visibility into ramping the SUNS portfolio, in August 2024, the Board of Directors also declared a regular dividend of $0.42 per common share for the Q4 of 2024. Now turning to our portfolio. In the Q3 of 2024, SUN successfully closed $87,400,000 in deals, which include a $6,000,000 commitment to a $12,000,000 senior loan upsize for the Allen in Houston, Texas, a $14,100,000 commitment to a $35,200,000 senior loan for Jovi Belterra in Austin, Texas, dollars 27,300,000 commitment to a $42,000,000 senior loan for the Thompson Hotel in San Antonio, Texas and a $40,000,000 commitment to a $160,000,000 senior loan for Panther National in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. Subsequent to the end of the Q3, in fact just last week, we committed $30,000,000 to a $96,000,000 senior loan that was agented by the TCG Real Estate platform for the development of 6th and Rio, a premier condominium project in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

Speaker 3

This investment reflects our broader strategy of partnering with top tier developers who share our vision for creating high quality real estate in key Southern U. S. Markets. We continue to find attractive opportunities in the residential sector, which now comprises 75% of our portfolio. Notably, we currently have 0 exposure to office properties.

Speaker 3

Our portfolio is comprised of new vintage assets with our first deal closed in January 2024. All loans are current and performing. As Len described earlier, our pipeline remains strong with approximately $1,200,000,000 in active deals. From inception through November 1st, we along with our affiliated funds on the TCG Real Estate platform and our syndicate partners have executed term sheets totaling $696,000,000 successfully closing $461,000,000 with SUNS committing $150,000,000 Additionally, dollars 235,000,000 are in documentation with SUNS expected to fund a portion of this amount in line with the TCG allocation policy. We anticipate that several of the deals and documentation will close by the end of the year.

Speaker 3

To date, we have closed every transaction that we have signed a term sheet for. We credit this in part to the team's extensive preliminary due diligence and its focus on borrower selectivity. Finally, in light of recent events like Hurricane Milton in our home state of Florida, I'd like to reassure our stakeholders that our investments in the state were not materially impacted. All of our investments across the Southern United States are fully insured and we take proactive steps to mitigate risks by tailoring insurance coverage to align with the specific risks of each investment. This ensures both the company and our borrowers remain well protected.

Speaker 3

Looking ahead, we remain focused on building a portfolio of new vintage assets, leveraging our local expertise, deep market knowledge and strong relationships across the Southern U. S. These strengths allow us to identify opportunities early and act decisively in competitive markets. My team and I continue to remain optimistic that the attractive lending opportunities that we are witnessing today in the commercial lending space will continue for the foreseeable future, particularly across our target geographic markets. I believe that the unique market lending environment is one of the best that I have observed in my 25 plus year real estate career.

Speaker 3

With that, I will now turn the call over to Brandon Hetzel, our CFO.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Brian. For the quarter ended September 30, 2024, we generated net interest income of $3,200,000 and distributable earnings of $1,900,000 or $0.27 per basic weighted average common share and had GAAP net income of $1,700,000 or $0.26 per basic weighted average common share. We believe providing distributable earnings is helpful to shareholders in assessing the overall performance of SUNS business. Distributable earnings represents net income computed in accordance with GAAP, excluding non cash items such as stock compensation expense, unrealized gains or losses and the provision for current expected credit losses. We ended the Q3 of 2024 with $120,000,000 of current commitments and $98,000,000 of principal outstanding spread across 6 loans.

Speaker 4

As of November 1, 2024, our portfolio consisted of $150,000,000 of current commitments and $104,000,000 of principal outstanding across 7 loans with a weighted average portfolio yield to maturity of 13%. I'd also like to note that as of September 30, 2024, our CECL reserve is $24,000 or approximately 3 basis points for our loans at carrying value. As Lynn mentioned earlier, I'm pleased to report that on November 6, 2024, we successfully closed a senior secured revolving credit facility with East West Bank. This facility provides an initial commitment of 50,000,000 with the option to increase total commitments up to $200,000,000 subject to available collateral and lender participation. The facility matures in 2027 and allows us to borrow and repay as needed, further enhancing our financing financial flexibility to support portfolio growth and capitalize on future opportunities.

Speaker 4

On October 15, 2024 SUNS paid a dividend of $0.21 per share for the 3rd quarter to shareholders of record as of September 30, 2024. The Board of Directors has also declared a regular dividend of $0.42 per common share for the Q4 of 2024. This dividend will be paid on January 15, 2025 to shareholders of record on December 31, 2024. As of September 30, 2024, our total shareholder equity was 112,100,000 dollars and our book value per share was $16.19 Absent the declaration of the 4th quarter dividend, our book value would have been approximately $16.61 With that, I will now turn it back over to the operator to start the Q and A.

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Yasmeen Khour with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Yasmeen Khour, your line is open. Please check your mute button.

Speaker 5

Hi, this is Steven Laws with Raymond James. Can you hear me?

Speaker 2

Hey, Stephen.

Speaker 5

Hey, Glenn, Brian, good to hear from you guys today, Brandon. I wanted to follow-up on the pipeline question. I guess, first, maybe can you talk about the competitive environment? Are you seeing anybody come back in? I know a lot of lenders are still on the sidelines given legacy portfolio issues, which you guys don't have.

Speaker 5

But can you talk about the competitive environment in the Southeast markets where you guys are active?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure. Hey, Stephen, nice to talk again. We haven't seen any noticeable pickup in competition. I'd say it stayed around the same of what we've been seeing for the last several months. There it's not as if we are the sole group out there, but there really are still very few groups that we are bumping into on a consistent basis for the type of transactions in the Southern U.

Speaker 3

S. That we've been going after. What we have seen on the positive side is more opportunities, which I guess goes back to the fact that we're excited about the pipeline. We've definitely seen a pickup in the number of sponsors or their advisors that are looking to refinance in this current market. And so that's sort of that's encouraging with a big portion of those on the residential side, which is even further encouraging.

Speaker 5

Appreciate the comments there. And then as you think about the pipeline, can you provide us a little color what you're seeing? Are you really seeing kind of new construction or new development opportunities? Is it refinance? Is it acquisition financing?

Speaker 5

And then kind of along those lines, relative value between looking at new subordinated debt investments versus senior loans? Just trying to get an idea of what's in the pipeline and of that stuff, what do you view as the most attractive from a risk reward standpoint?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure. The majority of the stuff that we've been spending time on now has been on the refinance side. That is the most for us the most exciting right now because we're finding borrowers now who have a much more positive outlook that rates have peaked and that they are slowly starting to come down. And what that has meant as we've seen it is that these groups are really prepared to step up, put additional equity into transactions and have us refinance because their commitment to the long term value is there. And so that's really encouraged a lot of refinancing opportunities.

Speaker 3

From the new transaction side, I would say it is picking up. It's still relatively muted. There's still that disconnect from the buyers and the sellers, but it does seem that values have bottomed. And as a result, there does seem to be a bit more pickup. So that's been really helpful.

Speaker 3

And then lastly, in terms of the composition between senior and sub, most of the stuff that we're focusing on that we've seen that is the best risk adjusted is on the senior side. You are getting paid to be able to speak for the entire capital stack. It's really valuable. So we've been doing that. Certainly, our closing of our announced East West facility is very helpful towards that effort.

Speaker 3

So most of the stuff I would say is skewing is certainly skewing towards the senior side.

Speaker 5

Great. And one more, if I may. Just as I think about the initial portfolio, do you guys still feel good ramping that, say, by the end of the Q1? Or kind of as you look at your pipeline and time it takes to close deals and do the due diligence, Kind of how do you expect to see the portfolio ramp over the next 3 to 6 months?

Speaker 2

We're not going to give the forward this, Len. We're not going to give the forward projections because things always take longer or something. And we don't want to mislead. But when we say we have actionable deals, we have closed every single deal that we've had a signed term sheet and documentation. So we fully expect to close all of those.

Speaker 2

And just you never know the time line that that happens. If I were to guess,

Speaker 6

it's somewhere

Speaker 5

in the

Speaker 2

next 6 months.

Speaker 5

Okay. Well, I was hoping you'd make my job

Speaker 2

Yes. So I don't get to make your job a lot easier. The good news is there's plenty of deal flow. But just to remind you, right, this pipeline, even though it's $1,000,000,000 took $100,000,000,000 to get there. So our selectivity is still running about 1%.

Speaker 2

So the team is going through 99 deals and for every one deal that we actually do, 1% to 2%. So it's a really low selectivity.

Speaker 5

I was looking for a cheat sheet there, Lynn, but Q3 numbers were right on top of my investment activity. So feel comfortable and congratulations on your Q1 as a public entity and the solid results in this ramp period. Appreciate it.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Steve. Thanks very much, Steve.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Mueller with Citizens JMP. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions and good to be on with you for first public call here. So I guess maybe I'll take a stab at a little bit different question from Stephen Laws. Given the current equity base and financing in place, what size portfolio can you guys support? So maybe not timing, but just kind of sizing, given everything that's in place right now.

Speaker 2

So what we think about is structuring this a lot like another firm you might know in the space, but I think it's doing a really good job structuring it, where it will be ultimately in the medium term about 1 third equity, 1 third sub debt and 1 third senior of which the senior will be half drawn. And that's sort of how you get to that 1.5 times leverage target. So, first step is get the East West line and get a great partner with them and utilize that line. And then ultimately, we'd seek to do sub debt in the market, which I think is very attractive at this point and we've done before in another public entity as you know.

Speaker 6

Got it. And then I guess on that $0.42 dividend, given that you guys declared that already, is it fair to assume that distributable EPS in the Q4 and going forward will be in that ballpark run rate $0.42 area?

Speaker 2

And we can't forecast numbers going forward, but clearly as we ramp the portfolio to get more invested, earnings should go up. So and that we've already started that process.

Speaker 6

Got it. That's helpful. So I appreciate you guys taking the question today and look forward to watching this story play out over the coming quarters.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Thanks very much. Thanks for your interest.

Operator

Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions at this time. This does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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Key Takeaways

  • In Q3 2024, SUNS generated $1.9 million in distributable earnings or $0.27 per share, paid a $0.21 partial dividend for Q3 and declared a $0.42 dividend for Q4 2024.
  • SUNS closed $87.4 million in new senior loans in Q3 as part of a $1.2 billion active pipeline, and has closed every signed term sheet to date.
  • Management secured a $50 million revolving credit facility with East West Bank (expandable to $200 million) at SOFR+2.75%, enhancing financing flexibility and cost of capital.
  • The firm is benefiting from Fed rate cuts and bank pullbacks, gaining traction as an alternative lender with high demand for commercial real estate debt in the Southern U.S.
  • The portfolio is 75% residential with zero office exposure; all loans are new-vintage, current, fully performing and insured against regional risks like hurricanes.
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