HealthStream Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to HealthStream's 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I would like to inform you that this conference is being recorded and that all participants are in a listen only mode. At the request of the company, we will open the conference I will now turn the conference over to Molly Condra, Vice President of Investor Relations and Communications. Please go ahead, Ms. Condra.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss our Q4 full year 2023 results. Also

Speaker 2

on the

Speaker 1

conference call with me this morning is Robert A. Frisk, Jr, CEO and Chairman of HealthStream and Scotty Roberts, CFO and Senior Vice President of Finance and Accounting. I would also like to remind you that this conference call may contain forward looking statements regarding future events and the future performance of HealthStream that could involve risks and uncertainties that could then cause the actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements. Information concerning these risks and other factors that could cause the results to differ materially from those forward looking statements are contained in the company's filings with the SEC, including Forms 10 ks, 10 Q and our earnings release. Additionally, we may reference measures such as adjusted EBITDA, which is a non GAAP financial measure.

Speaker 1

A table providing supplemental information on adjusted EBITDA and reconciling to net income attributable to HealthStream is included in the earnings release that we issued yesterday and may refer to in this call. So with that start, I'll now turn the call over to CEO, Bobby Frist.

Speaker 2

Good morning, everyone. I'm having a few connection issues. There might be a glitch here and there. We'll push through it though and do the best we can. I'm really excited about how we finished the full year 2023.

Speaker 2

There are lots of exciting things to cover and we'll do that in great detail in the next 30 minutes. We delivered record top line revenue of $279,100,000 and record adjusted EBITDA $61,300,000 In our guidance for 2024, we expect to surpass both of those high watermarks as we further expand our ecosystem with exciting new products, new sales channels and new target markets. The significant development in our market expansion directly to individual end users, clinicians, nurses, nursing students. Our Extreme platform allows us to approach individuals but for learning most applicable to them. Around the year, we've begun selling commercial positions on our newly received meeting courses site the.

Speaker 2

We also amplified our ability to reach and to sell to individual nurses through NurseGrid Learn, which is linked via our popular NurseGrid app. As a reminder, NurseGrid is the number one most popular app for nurses based on ratings and downloads in the Apple Store, with approximately 1 in 6 nurses in the U. S. Regularly using it. During the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2023, over 1800 orders were placed by nurses.

Speaker 2

Some of the top products sold Yes, I'm having some connection issues I'm getting feedback from. So again, we'll push through the best we can. I'm excited about our early success in selling direct to healthcare professionals with our new e commerce enabled hStream platform. I believe that the ability to participate in our ecosystem throughout one's healthcare journey, including new opportunities for caregivers to advance both their skills and their clinical and clinical and clinical and clinical and clinical and clinical and clinical and clinical and clinical and clinical and clinical. And there are a couple of final comments about our business and who we are for the benefit of anyone who is new to HealthStream.

Speaker 2

1st and foremost, HealthStream is a healthcare technology company dedicated to developing, credentialing and scheduling the healthcare workforce through SaaS based solutions, each of which are becoming more valuable because of the interoperability they're achieving through our hStream technology platform. Historically, we sell our solutions on a subscription basis under contracts that average 3 to 5 years in length, which is very predictable. In fact, 96% of our revenues are subscription based. As I just mentioned, we have also started to open our sales channels directly to health care professionals and nursing students across the continuum of healthcare training. We are profitable, have no interest bearing debt and a strong cash balance of $71,100,000 We are solely focused on healthcare and more specifically the healthcare workforce.

Speaker 2

The 12,300,000 healthcare professionals and nursing students in the United States comprise the total addressable market for our SaaS. Oh, gosh. I'm going to need to it looks like we're having bigger connection issues than I thought. So I apologize for that. I'm going to have to go find another dial in.

Speaker 2

Give me just a second. Hey, Molly, I'm going to ask if you can hear me that you pick up since the script is written, if you could pick up in the paragraph? Sure. Or maybe even since you know where I dropped.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 2

And then go ahead and so I can get back in. Go ahead and start from the top.

Speaker 3

Sure.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Molly.

Speaker 1

So I'll start where Bobby left off, if I understood that correctly. So in the Q4, revenues from our scheduling application, ShipWizard, grew 31% over the prior year quarter as customers continue to report high customer satisfaction. Since purchasing ShipWizard in October 2020, we have selected it as our primary scheduling application and significantly expanded its ability to perform at enterprise scale, and it's only going to become more powerful, more differentiated in the market in the coming year. In the Q4, we welcome many new customers for ShiftWizard, including Norman Regional Hospital, Freeman Health Systems and Phelps Health. Revenues from credentialing privileging enrollment application, Credential Stream, grew 52% in the Q4 versus the same period last year.

Speaker 1

In the Q4, we contracted 37 new customers for our credential stream solutions. These new credential stream customers included many highly respected healthcare organizations like Intermountain Healthcare, Lyra Health and Dayton Children's Hospital. So there's still a great deal to talk about, but right now I'm going to turn it over to CFO, Scotty Roberts, for a more detailed look at our financial performance and expectations.

Speaker 3

All right. Thanks, Molly, and good morning. I want to start my portion of the call today with a recap of our financial results for the Q4, and then I'll go over our financial outlook for 2024. Unless otherwise noted, the comparisons will be against the same period of last year. We continue to deliver solid results as we closed out the Q4 of 2023.

Speaker 3

Revenues were $70,600,000 up 3 percent. Operating income was $4,300,000 up 38 percent. Net income was $4,600,000 up 87 percent. Earnings per share were $0.15 per share, up from $0.08 per share. And finally, adjusted EBITDA was $16,000,000 and was up 17%.

Speaker 3

Our revenues increased by $2,100,000 or 3 percent coming in at $70,600,000 compared to $68,500,000 in last year's Q4. Our revenue mix continued to tilt in the direction of subscriptions versus professional services. In fact, revenues from subscription products accounted for 96% of total revenues and were 67,900,000 increasing by 4% in the quarter. Professional service revenues declined by $500,000 or 17%, which had a negative impact on our growth rate of approximately 80 basis points. So now let me provide some more color about the revenue results.

Speaker 3

As Bobby and Molly mentioned earlier, we saw a good mix of growth contributors throughout our portfolio. But I want to call out and quantify a couple of areas that kept our growth rate for the quarter lower than it would have otherwise been and lower than we expect to see it in 2024. The first area that I'll highlight is associated with our ANSOS scheduling products. The suite of products was down $500,000 or 13 percent in the quarter. Our focus continues to be on stabilizing existing ANSOS customers and migrating them to ShiftWizard, our SaaS scheduling application, which grew its revenue by 31% in the quarter.

Speaker 3

Future declines associated with the remaining $14,000,000 of ANSOS related revenue are contemplated in our 2024 guidance. The second area that I want to mention is our quality manager solution, which accounted for approximately $5,500,000 of subscription revenue for the full year of 2023, and it was down $400,000 or about 23% in the quarter. We acquired this product in 2019, and unlike most of our products, it's sold to the skilled nursing facility market. And while most areas of health care have rebounded since COVID, skilled nursing facilities, in particular, have continued to experience financial pressures. ANSYS quality manager and professional services declines offset some of the exciting growth that we experienced in products like Credential Stream and ShiftWizard.

Speaker 3

Now our remaining performance obligations were $541,000,000 as of the end of the year compared to $517,000,000 the year before, and we expect approximately 42% of the revenue backlog to be converted in 2024. Our gross margin was 66% compared to 65.7% last year, and this was in the range that we expected. Moving on to operating expenses. The reorganization of the business as a single operating segment at the beginning of the year led to efficiencies and cost synergies in our operations that are reflected in our financial results for the quarter. We were able to maintain our operating expenses, excluding cost of revenues, to a modest increase of $400,000 or 1%.

Speaker 3

And most of this year over year increase was from depreciation and amortization, which was up 10%, and product development was up 1%. Our G and A and sales and marketing expenses were down 6% and 1%, respectively. Adjusted EBITDA was $16,000,000 which was up 17%, and adjusted EBITDA margin improved to 22.6% compared to 19.9% last year. Now let's go over the balance sheet metrics. We ended the quarter with cash and investment balances of $71,100,000 compared to $71,800,000 last quarter.

Speaker 3

During the quarter, we deployed $6,600,000 for capital expenditures, paid $800,000 to shareholders through our dividend program and we repurchased $6,800,000 of our common stock under the share repurchase program announced in September. For receivables management, our days sales outstanding were 42 days for both the Q4 of this year and last year. While we've had a relatively steady performance with receivables, during the past year, our bad debt charges increased by approximately 600,000 dollars which about $350,000 occurred in the Q4. Our total bad debt charges for the full year approximated $1,000,000 or about 0.37 percent of revenue. Now switching over to cash flows.

Speaker 3

For the full year, our cash flows from operations improved by $12,800,000 or 25 percent, coming in at $64,000,000 and free cash flow has improved to a record high of $36,000,000 compared to $26,100,000 last year, an increase of 38%. We have a strong balance sheet with over $71,000,000 of cash, no debt and improving free cash flows. With available capital to deploy, we apply disciplined approach to our capital allocation strategy, which includes M and A, dividends and share repurchases. While we did not complete any acquisitions during 2023, we maintain an active M and A program to evaluate potential transactions that fit our investment criteria. In addition, deploying capital through cash dividends and share repurchases are ways for us to improve shareholder value.

Speaker 3

In February of 2023, our Board of Directors adopted a dividend policy, which we returned $3,100,000 of cash back to shareholders last year. Yesterday, our Board of Directors declared a quarterly cash dividend to be paid in March, increasing the payout by 12% over the previous quarterly dividend. As for our share repurchase program, during the quarter, we made $6,800,000 of share repurchases, and we have $1,100,000 remaining under the program. Our current share repurchase program will expire on the earlier of March 31, 2024, or when the maximum dollar amount under the program has been expended. In the 4th quarter, hStream subscriptions increased by 85,000 over the previous quarter to a total of approximately 5,800,000 dollars Now as we turn our attention to metrics that are more relatable to revenue growth and our medium term financial objectives, we're planning to retire the hStream subscriptions metric with this report.

Speaker 3

We believe that hStream subscriptions have served as a good indicator of our ability to deploy our platform at scale. We are now turning our attention to the future financial performance that scale can drive. As we've said before, hStream subscriptions are not intended to be used to calculate revenue per subscription or revenue per subscriber. A key reason for that is because not all products that result in revenue gains or losses require hStream subscriptions, and subscriptions do not necessarily correlate on a one to one basis with subscribers. We continue to believe that the medium term financial objectives that we introduced at our September of 2022 investor meeting are key performance indicators for our business.

Speaker 3

So let's refresh on our medium term objectives, metrics which support them and our performance against those metrics in 2023. Our revenue growth objective is to be in the 7% to 10% range with 5% to 7% coming from organic growth and 2% to 3% from inorganic. For 2023, we achieved revenue growth of 5%. Our gross margin objective is 65% to 68%, and we achieved 66%. And our adjusted EBITDA margin objective is 21% to 24% and we achieved 22%.

Speaker 3

We're excited to now give our financial guidance for 2024, which we expect to deliver on each of the 3 medium term objectives I just described. We expect consolidated revenues to range between $292,000,000 $296,000,000 We expect adjusted EBITDA to range between $64,500,000 $67,500,000 and capital expenditures are expected to range between $28,000,000 $30,000,000 This guidance does not include assumptions for any acquisitions that we may complete during the year. Our revenue guidance range implies a growth rate between 4.6% 6.1%, and we expect steady performance across the year. Our ability to up sell and cross sell solutions to existing accounts, improve our net revenue retention and acquire new customers, including targeting the nursing school market and increasing sales through our commerce channels are elements that we believe will help us achieve these revenue targets. We expect gross margin to be around 66% for the year and subscription revenue mix from solutions that we own versus partner solutions, which we pay royalties and investments in our platform and infrastructure, such as cloud hosting and software, will be the primary influences on gross margin.

Speaker 3

As for staffing, we have just under 1100 employees and approximately 50 open positions as of the beginning of the year. So labor costs are expected to increase steadily across the year. We expect both product development and sales and marketing to increase in the 4% percent range. We have plans to increase our marketing efforts this year, including our trade show presence and engagement directly to students and professionals. We expect that our G and A costs will increase 1% to 2%.

Speaker 3

And finally, we estimate the effective tax rate will be in the low to mid-twenty percent range. That concludes my comments for this quarter's call. Thanks for your time this morning. And I'll now turn the call hopefully back over to Bobby for some additional updates.

Speaker 2

Okay, great. Thanks, Scotty. I think I'm on a better connection now. I have to have a little discussion with my Google connection, but we're good to go. What I'm going to do is repeat my opening section because we need a good record of it.

Speaker 2

And then I'll pick up with the 3rd section, my final section. If I break out again, I'll ask Scotty to do the same. Just go back to the top of the script and get my first section in the record and finish with my the 3rd section of our presentation. So good morning. Thank you, Molly, for the handoff earlier.

Speaker 2

Welcome to our Q4 and full year 2023 earnings call. I'm excited about how we finished the full year 2023. We delivered record top line revenue of $279,100,000 and record adjusted EBITDA of $61,300,000 In our guidance for 2024, as Scotty just mentioned, we expect to surpass both of those high watermarks as we further expand our ecosystem with exciting new products, new sales channels and new target markets. A significant development in our market expansion strategy in 2023 is our additional focus on selling directly to individual end users like physicians, nurses and nursing students. Our hStream platform now allows us to approach individuals with the learning most applicable to them.

Speaker 2

I'm going to check real quick and see how that came through. Scotty or Molly?

Speaker 3

You're coming in just fine, Bobby.

Speaker 2

Okay, great. Around mid year, we began selling primarily to physicians on our newly released CME courses site powered by the hStream platform. On that site, we've seen a surge in site visits and purchases with the most popular purchase being the new DEA mandated opioid course with over 2,700 orders placed in the 4th quarter alone. During the last two quarters in 2023, we also amplified our ability to reach and to sell to individual nurses through NurseGrid Learn, which is linked via our popular NurseGrid app. As a reminder, NurseGrid is the number one most popular app for nurses based on ratings and downloads in the Apple Store, with approximately 1 in 6 nurses in the U.

Speaker 2

S. Regularly using it. During the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2023 and powered by our new hStream Commerce capabilities, Over 1800 orders replaced by nurses. Some of the top products sold directly to nurses via NurseGrid Learn include our STABLE program, our regulatory courses we call SafetyQ and ComplyQ and CE Unlimited. I'm excited about our early success in selling direct to healthcare professionals with our new e commerce enabled hStream platform, I believe that the ability to participate in our ecosystem throughout one's healthcare journey, including as a student, which is a new target for us, when they're an employee at a healthcare facility or as an individual finding us between jobs even now with this new commerce capability.

Speaker 2

We kind of create a continuous revenue opportunity out of the millions of subscribers in our network. And I think this gives them opportunity to kind of continuously develop them and engage with our ecosystem throughout their career. Before we go further, I wanted to provide a high level reminder about our core business, and especially for the benefit of those who may be new to HealthStream. 1st and foremost, HealthStream is a healthcare technology company dedicated to developing, credentialing and scheduling the healthcare workforce through SaaS based solutions, each of which are becoming more valuable as they become increasingly interoperable through our new hStream platform technologies. Historically, we sell our solutions on a subscription basis under contracts that average 3 to 5 years in length, which makes our revenues recurring and predictable.

Speaker 2

In fact, as of today, 96% of our revenues are subscription based. As I just mentioned, we have also started to open our sales channels directly to healthcare professionals and nursing students across the continuum of healthcare training. We are profitable. We have no interest bearing debt and a strong cash balance of $71,100,000 We are solely focused on health care and more specifically the health care workforce. The 12,300,000 health care professionals, which now include about 1,000,000 nursing students in the United States comprise the total addressable market for our SaaS solutions.

Speaker 2

In the Q4, revenues from our scheduling application, ShiftWizard, grew 31% over the prior year quarter as customers continue to report high customer satisfaction. Since purchasing SIPWizard in October of 2020, we've selected it as our primary scheduling application and significantly expanded its ability to perform at enterprise scale and is only going to become more powerful and differentiated in the market in the coming year. In the Q4, we welcome many new customers for Shift Wizard, including Norman Region Hospital, Freeman Health System and Phelps Health. Revenues from our credentialing, privileging and enrollment application credential stream grew 52% in the Q4 versus the same period last year. In the Q4, we contracted 37 new customers for our credential stream solutions.

Speaker 2

These new credential stream customers included many highly respected healthcare organizations like Intermountain Healthcare, Lyra Health and Dayton Children's Hospital. There's still a great deal to talk about. And since Scotty's covered his second, I'm going to jump right down to my concluding remarks. One second. All right.

Speaker 2

Now during investor call in October, I mentioned that we grow our business by expanding market share and increasing wallet share. In the first half of the call, I talked about expanding our markets by selling directly to an audience of physicians, nurses and nursing students. Now I want to provide a good example of how we expanded wallet share through better retention strategy, expansion and cross selling at a key customer account during the Q4. 1 of our valued customers on the West Coast chose to expand their Learning Center and hStream subscriptions from 6,200 users to about 8,000 users. They also renewed their purchases of several content offerings like their health equity and belonging education for their staff, the checklist software tool they use for different compliance efforts and competency validation, their SafetyQ and ComplyQ, again regulatory training content and even EBSCO's clinical skills program and dynamic health.

Speaker 2

Not only did this customer commit to a long term 5 year renewal on those products, they decided to further leverage the power of the hStream marketplace by adding our CE Unlimited product with the Jane AI technology. And I just love that this customer continues to trust HealthStream for the kind of the more complete education and training of its workforce. So you heard that some of this was in compliance, some in clinical skills, some in soft skills and business skills. So it's exciting to see the breadth that they use this for that area. But in Q4, the customer actually also purchased ShiftWizard, our scheduling application.

Speaker 2

This is the first time they've entered that part of our system using our ShiftWizard application. So I'm encouraged by the cross selling that occurred when the ShiftWizard purchased it because it represents our focus on that cross selling effort in all of our accounts, but in particular, this one is exciting. And I'll end this example by noting that the recurring revenue from this customer grew by 55% through that renewal process to about $216,000 in the quarter. So it's a pretty good sized account and it grew by 55% when it renewed and it added not just more learning products, but also the cross sell or the up sell, the purchase of the scheduling applications. And we're really excited because now we're beginning to demonstrate how those applications now although limited and powered by new hStream technology, some limited capabilities of how our different systems can work together.

Speaker 2

I do want to talk just for a minute about our evolving AI strategy. Going forward, we expect AI to impact how we develop products, the capabilities of our products and even kind of some of the models for our products like the learning model gets adjusted with the application of AI technology. So we're really excited that we're making incredible progress with our Jane AI product. And we really are putting our energy in AI around the Jane platform, which is used to develop and identify competency gaps for nurses. So it's a really great place to apply AI technology because we have proprietary taxonomies that can be used in navigating a custom pathway for someone.

Speaker 2

We can use the natural language processing to interpret their written feedback and when they take our GI competency testing. And so this product is really exciting over the last 24 months. We've received numerous awards since introduction. And in the Q4, it was recognized for 3 more prestigious national awards, bringing the total number of awards for Jane to 11. And so I'm definitely excited about this award winning product and its recognition for pioneering new methods of learning and application of AI to the learning journey.

Speaker 2

And what I'm most excited about though is that in the next quarter or so, we're bringing a new version of Jane to market that's specifically tailored for nursing students. And if you remember, last quarter, we announced that we were going to target the nursing school market and the nursing students in that market. And I think the new version of Jane that we're preparing for that market is going to be particularly impactful for those students early in their career. And so we're really excited about our emphasis on the use of AI in the learning journey, in particular the award winning Jane product and the new modifications of that product to make it appropriate for both professional staff in hospitals and nursing students in nursing schools. In closing, I do want to highlight that our Board recently approved or just yesterday an increase in the cash dividend to be paid out to shareholders.

Speaker 2

They approved the dividend payment of $0.028 per share, which is about a 12% increase over the previous quarter's dividend of $0.025 The upcoming dividend is payable on March 22 to holders of record on March 11. And so if you're not in stock, you can still come in and earn that dividend and go on this journey with us. We continue to be confident in our ability to accomplish our innovative organic and our inorganic growth strategy. As we mentioned, we have about $71,100,000 of cash, while also returning cash to shareholders as part of our objective. So we're excited about the dividend program.

Speaker 2

If you're interested in a profitable, highly recurring revenue SaaS Pass Healthcare Technology company that for 2024 expect to deliver steady growth and is determined to share some of its gains directly to shareholders in the form of a dividend, one that we just increased, maybe HealthStream as a company and stock for you. And so that's my marketing pitch. I've always got to do a little bit of selling. Look, we're on the journey together and I've been building this company for a long time and I've never been more excited about the prospects for the company as our technologies evolve and incorporate the latest like the evolving AI landscape. And our teams are amazing.

Speaker 2

We have 1100 employees that are building incredible products and taking them to market with great passion. So we're really excited as we launch into this new year. I'll turn it over to the operator for Q and A. I hope that that came through. If it didn't, we'll probably have to schedule another day like an Investor Day or something to make sure we get all this great information on the transcript.

Speaker 2

I'll turn it over to the operator for questions.

Operator

Thank you, sir. The And our first question comes from Matt Hewitt with Craig Hallum. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Good morning and thank you for taking the questions. Maybe first up, just a point of clarification. I think, Scotty, you mentioned there was $14,000,000 left in Ansoff legacy contracts. I'm just curious, will those contracts be up for renewal or conversion, I guess, this year or does it expand beyond this year? I'm just trying to figure out what the headwind is that you're facing maybe a little bit this year.

Speaker 2

Yes. I'll start to take that and then let Scotty add to it. The total remaining kind of business with Anfos is about is 14,000,000 dollars And it is our hope and expectation and our work and focus of our work to retain all that business until which time we can eventually upgrade them to the newer technologies like ShiftWizard. And so, it is our objective. Now that said, in the last 24 months, as Scotty noted, we've experienced attrition in that group and lost them not to the market, not to the translation over to ShiftWizard.

Speaker 2

So we're working really hard to position the upgrade to ANSOS as ShiftWizard. If you remember, it's a legacy installed product. It is aging technology, and we're working hard to keep the customer satisfied with where they are, renew them as their contracts come up for renewal, but also transition them when they're ready to transition to the ShipWizard product. So we hope to stem some of this rate of loss here in the coming quarters and get them transitioned over to ShipWizard as well. So I hope that set a framework and if Scotty wants to add anything, he can.

Speaker 3

Yes, Matt. I mean, it's a mix of contracts that are what we call in their auto renewal phase. That's a common practice for that type of previous sale and then a good mix also of customers that have entered into agreements for multiple years of renewal for that solution. So it's I don't have the numbers in front of me to speak to, but there is a mix of contract links in the base.

Speaker 4

Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. And then, Bobby, as you look at it, as you start to sell more and more directly to the end user, particularly the nurses, historically you've signed and I think you mentioned again today, you're typically signing 3 to 5 year contracts with your hospital customers. But with nurses, in particular, are those those aren't 3 to 5 year contracts.

Speaker 4

So how does that change your visibility? And what can you do to ensure? Obviously, it's a big market and getting in early with those end customers is obviously ideal. But how does that change your visibility? And what can you do to maybe increase that?

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. A couple of things. 1, these technologies power commerce, B2B Commerce as well as direct to consumer. And so there's 2 opportunities here. And the main one I'm going to cover first is focusing on the nursing students while they're in the 2 3 year programs to become nurses and getting the schools to have the commitment to put those nurses through kind of those nurse students through ready to work programs.

Speaker 2

And so the main focus of this is to get it where they could both be find a clinical rotation in a hospital and of course they pay a little fee for that through my clinical exchange, buy a few content bundles like the Red Cross program before they become a nurse. So they enter the market with the certificate and the certificate generally has about a 2 year life span. And we've entered into at least 1 major multi year contract with a nursing school that has committed to provision some of these services to the students, on a steady basis, ongoing basis before they become a nurse and then as they transition from there, they can carry using hStream technology that portfolio, that record forward with them into work. So that's the main focus of these commerce capabilities. The new student Jane AI, for example, we'd rather the school contract to provision it to the students.

Speaker 2

Now the second capability is the one I opened with, which is fun and exciting. It's kind of a gap filler. So if someone is between jobs, they notice their license might expire if they don't take certain education for their continued education, they can still use their hStream ID, log in and pay for themselves, of course. And we did report a lot of activity on there, both by learning to target doctors and students. That revenue will be a little less predictable.

Speaker 2

It is good margin and it is incremental and it's picking up a gap, say, between jobs or when they're not working in a place that uses our enterprise software. So it's kind of a gap filler. I call it money while we sleep because it's all automated, credit card purchases. It will be less predictable, and but you can see that we filled a lot of gaps in the Q4 with both of those types. So the emphasis will be of course on the B2B engagement with the schools that are interested in developing nurses, the students into nurses and then placing them in their jobs in hospitals.

Speaker 2

So that will be the real focus. And we mentioned the modified Jane product that's coming out and our initial we have initial big win with a big nursing system that has committed to put we believe they're piloting to put all their students through the Jain program and we'll see we'll know more about that pilot at the end of the year, but that will be the real B2B goal as well. Hope that helps clarify, but that incremental revenue that we opened with is just fun and exciting incremental revenue for content we already own to audiences that would have normally disengage with us, say between jobs. So if a nurse worked at a hospital on our learning system and built a transcript, they take 6 months off and then they take another job at a hospital that also uses HealthStream. They could pick up their education there.

Speaker 2

But now with our commerce abilities, they might in between that log in directly and consume a course maybe required by their state licensure. And so it's a gap filler and a time filler, it's incremental. It will be a little less predictable, but it is good margin. And so I hope that helps at least understand what we're going for. And it's a little bit of context too for the concept of trying to make all of these business subscriptions and the people behind them, kind of continuous lifetime customers of the HealthStream ecosystem.

Speaker 2

And so hopefully it kind of clarifies that gap filling capability we have and it will be a boost to revenue here and there. Thank you.

Speaker 4

That's very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jared Haas with William Blair. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Yes. Hi, good morning. This is Jared Haas on for Ryan Daniels. Thanks for taking our questions. Bobby, maybe just to start, I was hoping to unpack a little more color just around recent sales cycle trends.

Speaker 5

It seems like others that we've heard in the healthcare IT space has started to flag maybe some improvements in the selling environments with health systems, maybe relative to what the environment was like going into 2023. So just curious if that's something you've experienced in any meaningful way? Has that translated into any sort of favorable inflection from a selling perspective?

Speaker 2

Yes, sure. It's in different pockets. And so we did try to highlight some of that in the call. I don't know if some of that got muddled out, but let me kind of repeat and think through some of it. I think, we did talk about at least for some of our legacy products, where they have some decline and we specifically addressed the skilled nursing market.

Speaker 2

So that market as a whole is under a bit more duress. We see a little bit more churn in the customer base like the smaller ones maybe combining with larger ones or even going out of business. So in the skilled nursing market, it seems to still have some remaining financial stress and a little bit harder to sell to. And so we saw some declines in that and the product that the Quality Manager product that Scotty mentioned. But we did also open by highlighting, actually I had to repeat it so it's at the end, but highlighting the subscription growth to ShiftWizard and Credentials Stream, both of which as you heard 31% and nearly 50% year over year growth, which is reflected in the strength of the pipelines for those products.

Speaker 2

And so, I guess I'd say it has some variability, but in some of the bigger enterprise purchasing, particularly in Credential Stream and ShiftWizard, we saw we see strong pipelines. And so maybe there are certain sub segments in the market like skilled nursing. We're learning more about nursing schools and their buying cycles. And so there'll be more on that in the future. So I won't comment too much on that because we both have new products and a new focus on selling to those.

Speaker 2

But so there's some variability in there. I'd say generally though the patterns of reviewing products for purchasing, the availability to sell is obviously much improved from the middle of COVID where people simply weren't taking calls. And so I'd say there are kind of normalized new models of selling and customers are receptive to seeing the new and exciting products that we have.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. And then maybe just one on the 2024 outlook. Looking at the revenue guidance, it looks like the range from the low to the high end is a little bit narrower relative to the guidance for 2023.

Speaker 5

And I'm curious if there's anything we should infer in that just in terms of the level of confidence that you have at this point in the year, maybe relative to last year or anything that's changed from a visibility perspective? I know you're still working through the ANSOS sort of headwind and maybe there's some nuances as to how that kind of impacts the forecast. But maybe we'd just love to unpack anything that's going on from a visibility perspective at this point in the year?

Speaker 2

I mean, generally as we open, the business is very predictable. There are some variables and again, we noted those like ANSOS that are less predictable. We've tried our best to factor in the topics that Scotty covered on some of the challenging areas. And I think in general, we're getting a little better and feel a little more comfortable with the slightly tighter range. And so I guess we're just getting a little better at forecasting.

Speaker 2

Also, it's interesting, we talked about the direct to consumer commerce too. A lot of that's data driven. And so for example, we mentioned how that opioid course was just selling really well. I mean, there is kind of a requirement around that and we're getting better at the targeting. So we're a little better at predicting those sales, which might normally be considered almost totally or less controllable.

Speaker 2

And so I'd say using better targeting for selling and maturing a bit in our forecasting. We hope that we're able to tighten that range and give a little better guidance. So, we'll see how that plays out, but our expectation is that we can hit that range.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's perfect. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Stephanie Davis with Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hi, guys. This is Anna Krasinski on for Stephanie. Thank you for taking our questions. Once you go back to the 2024 guidance, just curious if you could talk a little bit more about the drivers of more sequentially stable growth and margins given your cost optimization and network expansion efforts?

Speaker 2

I'll let Scotty take a little of that. I think just in general, yes, we've gone through as we've migrated from essentially to this one HealthStream model, We've been able to find operating synergies in the business by operating more like a single platform company. We were able in early last year to restructure some of our operations and deduplicate some of what used to be segment reporting. And so some of those efficiencies are still in the model and we benefited from them this year. We're just getting better kind of operating.

Speaker 2

So you see better management of our G and A, for example, in the last 12 months, and therefore, maybe more predictable as we look into next year. We hope, again, more stability. There are a few variables to that as we just talked about a few of them in the sales model. Also a few challenges in submarkets like the skilled nursing, we did see a little higher bankruptcies in the market, which again adds a little bit of variability to the predictability, things that are essentially beyond our control. But the things that are within our control, I think we're getting better at controlling, both from a G and A standpoint, even CapEx.

Speaker 2

There's an increased focus on deployment of our capital into software development and a better, I'd say, rank ordering of prioritization of projects that we think we're going to be hopefully get better and better at deploying our capital. And so I think all of that is just hopefully a maturing business that's getting better at how it operates and studying more for efficiencies on how we get where we're going. For example, these new e commerce selling ability are providing more financial leverage as we sell with click to purchase functions, we can lower our total cost of sales. And I think that's kind of another type of efficiency we expect to get as we deploy the new platform models that we're building.

Speaker 6

Got it. Thank you. That's really helpful. And then as a quick follow-up, just curious if you could rank your capital allocation priorities across inorganic opportunities, dividends and share repurchases for the next year?

Speaker 2

Oh, gosh. Well, I mean the first priority is building organic products like the Jane AI product that is we're going to take into the nursing school. So first priority for capital and capitalized software development is in building and enhancing existing products and building new products. We've talked about taking ShipWizard more to enterprise class. We've talked about adjusting our Jane products, enhancing the AI technologies and entering new markets with it.

Speaker 2

So our capital the bulk of our capital goes into exciting new product development. That is the place where it should go. And then second of that would be, I guess, the inorganic opportunities. And our last acquisition was a little over a year ago. It turned out to be a really strong winner, small, bite sized tuck in, incremental to our platform strategy.

Speaker 2

So very excited and I think that will be kind of the second priority is to we won't force anything as demonstrated last year, we did no acquisitions last year. But we're constantly looking and expect to continue an active M and A program, especially the kinds that kind of leverage our platform technologies and where we're going, the 3 primary application areas where we are. So it strengthens those three areas or enhances our infrastructure, our targets for us for this. So that'd be the second. And then I would say, we executed a really good buyback program.

Speaker 2

I think we've done 3 in our 20 plus years, 24 years being public. Actually, all three of those buyback programs are in the money, which I think would be atypical of a lot of management buybacks and management board driven buybacks. So all of our buybacks have been good deployments of capital, knock on wood so far. And so that had maybe the 3rd priority. And that program does lapse in March and no visibility on whether it's time for our Board to put another one in place.

Speaker 2

But right now, we have an active program that expires in March. And then lastly, the dividends, I think it's a very small dividend, but it sends the message of capital discipline. I think taking a little bit of money off the top for shareholders and then applying the balance of it to all the things I just talked about, I think puts a little bit of capital discipline and it says, look, first order to remember is to make money for shareholders. And we put a small dividend in place to send a very clear message that we can manage our free cash flows, build new products, enter new markets, do small acquisitions that fit, while also paying out a little sharing the profits along the journey. It is a journey.

Speaker 2

I've been doing this a long time. And I think it just brings shareholders more onto the journey to share a little bit as the journey evolves. So those would be our 4 priorities, 1, 2, 3, 4, the way I articulate them. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Richard Close with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Yes, thanks for the questions. Congratulations on a steady 2023. Scotty, I was curious on modeling revenue with hStream subscribers going away, just wondering what the best way to forecast going forward and how we track the company's progress of penetrating the 12,300,000 employee TAM and increased wallet share that you're talking about. I guess pulling back on the hStream, the model is sort of evolved into a black box. And I guess, are you considering providing any other metrics like ARR growth or net revenue retention or anything to help us out?

Speaker 2

Yes. We're studying that now. So couple of things there. First is just a reminder, and I think in spite of our best efforts to explain where we are in the journey, want to remind you the first thing is that the metric that we had out there that we just retired was for subscriptions, not subscribers. And so it really was intended to show the platform kind of expansion, but not as an infrastructure for calculating ARPU or revenue per employee because we hadn't yet gotten to the place and we fully intended to over time get to the place where we could convert and talk about subscribers like the number of unique healthcare persons on our network.

Speaker 2

And we so we're just not it was a great metric almost like for a single product to talk about its expansion, but it was not correlated to revenues for the reasons Scotty mentioned and it was not it doesn't correlate to subscribers and we saw some potential misapplication of it to calculate revenue per subscriber. And so we think it served its purpose. We were getting our technologies out into the market and almost we report subscriptions sold to our regulatory courseware gave us sense for that. But it is not a proxy for subscribers and it can't be related to revenues yet because it's not fully deployed, meaning there are several products that drive revenues that don't add to the subscription number. So for that reason, it's not subscriptions aren't subscribers and it's not fully deployed.

Speaker 2

It can't be used as a denominator in a revenue per employee model. So we are going to look to this year add additional both financial metrics to focus on. We already report full GAAP, of course, but and one of those we're studying is ARR. So we'll look towards the middle of the year to see if we can get to that kind of metric, which I think would help all of the analysts and everyone understand the recurring revenue nature of the business and the growth trajectory. So yes, Richard, we're working on that.

Speaker 2

But I think it's time to take this metric, as we mentioned, kind of off the table because it was symbolic of the growth of the platform extension, but not relatable to people yet and not relatable to revenue, and we saw some of that starting to happen. So we just think we need to move our focus probably towards something like ARR. That was the discussion in the last quarter, And we've got to test to back test and see how that metric how we're going to measure it. But that would be a goal, would be to add some new metrics by the middle of the year.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. That would be helpful. And then on Ansoft, I added I guess, a couple of follow-up questions on that. Is the remaining $14,000,000 is that just maintenance and support revenue? That's the first question.

Speaker 7

And then if there's any details in terms If there's any details in terms of the success rate of converting to the ShiftWizard product would be helpful. And then finally, the average term, I guess, length of time on the remaining contracts?

Speaker 2

Sure. A couple of things there. The contracts have a lot of essentially, a lot of them are old installed and they have a maintenance fee that's non fast, but there is some recurring nature to it and they have auto renewals unless they cancel. And so there is a recurring nature to it. And it does include some those maintenance fees basically.

Speaker 2

So the second is on the conversion rate, I'd say to date obviously, unfortunately not very successful at all at that, but a renewed focus by our teams. Also, as we've talked about in prior calls, we're enhancing ShiftWizard to better meet the needs of these enterprise customers of ANSOS. And so and I think every single quarter now and actually every month on ShiftWizard, there's a new software release and it's moving us ever closer to full enterprise capability. So I think there'll be a better opportunity to transition. So again, not very successful in the migrations today as you hear from the loss that we've been reporting.

Speaker 2

We do expect and we have full energy on stabilizing that $14,000,000 and we're going to try to reduce the attrition rate and also succeed better this year in the conversion rate. So this isn't a story of, I don't think going to 0. It's an effort to stabilize and stem the loss while also transitioning them to the newer exciting technologies of ShiftWizard. And ShiftLizard is very well received in the market for its current capabilities. It's just winning share.

Speaker 2

We just need to enhance some of its core functionality and we've made a lot of progress on that, enhancing core functionality around kind of enterprise level data analysis. And so I think we look forward to by the middle of the year having great progress on that. So there'll be a better destination to migrate everybody to. I'll turn it over to Scotty if he wants to add anything.

Speaker 3

Yes, I'll just make a comment or 2 Richard. I mean I think I tried to address with Matt earlier in the call kind of the nature of the contract length that kind of vary from auto renewals to some that are have signed multiyear contracts. I don't have the duration run out in front of me, but there is a good mix of auto renewals plus customers under term. I would say too that our objective is to continue to support the customers. We do want to migrate them to ShipWizard, but we also want to acknowledge that there's still customers on that application and we're still there to support their use of it.

Speaker 3

And so that's another consideration. And I think as we talked about the $14,000,000 it's we wanted to just provide that number to provide context. As Bobby said, don't expect to go to 0. I just wanted to size it up for our investors to understand the magnitude of it.

Speaker 7

Okay. That's helpful. And then under the direct to consumer, just on that portion of revenue, I know it's small, but it's a different sale. How are you thinking about customer acquisition costs on the direct to consumer market? Maybe it's a little less than a typical direct to consumer because they if they're in between jobs, they already have exposure to you.

Speaker 7

Just trying to get your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2

Yes. I would say for the next couple of years, our thoughts are really just to try to keep the people that I would call in network to stay in the network when they're between jobs. And as I mentioned, pick up this new audience of students before they become professionals. And so it really isn't to broadly openly market to people to self register, it's to capture using existing data from the customers that have been in network to find them between jobs or when they leave a job, they can now leave and carry their HealthStream transcript with them. And that's different.

Speaker 2

And so they kind of if they work somewhere for a couple of years and they leave, they can still log back in using their hStream ID and see that they had 10 courses or and so now all we're doing is saying, oh, you can log within and carry your transcript with you like a portfolio or a wallet. You can take it with you. But you can also say, well, hey, you know, I might as click at the bottom here to keep my license current and take an additional course. And that's happening right now with doctors on that DEA course that we mentioned, and it's happening with nurses when they take a little bit of CE or even when they're about to take a new job, they refresh on something before they go back into the new job. So really we are it's more of a gap filler than it is a broad consumer.

Speaker 2

You said consumer, I call it direct to professional, D2P. And it's really just trying to keep people in network all the time as opposed to just kind of broadly marketing out into the wild open right now. And maybe we get there someday, but really the job right now is just to make that transcript portable, make them lifetime kind of lifetime engaging with HealthStream instead of just engaging with us when they're in their job.

Speaker 7

Okay, thanks. Very helpful. And if I could slip one more in, I thought on Credentials stream, it was interesting you announced I believe, Lyra Health, a digital health company that seemed a little bit different. Are you seeing an uptick in opportunities in that segment, on the direct to employer benefits area?

Speaker 2

We are seeing, at least with the insurers, we're seeing some opportunity there. And so I would say, yes, kind of categorically, we've there's interest in a couple of areas that maybe are not just purely the acute care hospitals. And so there are a lot of I guess I'd characterize them as new, but I just say we're getting better at pursuing a broader opportunity and not just the acute care hospital market. So the answer is yes.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Konstantin Davids with Citizens JMP Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Hi, thanks. Good morning. Just a couple of follow ups here on scheduling. Can you just maybe characterize where you're seeing growth with ShiftWizard because it's been pretty impressive in 2023? And I guess just a little further on that, is it sort of large IDNs, complex academic medical center type installations or smaller hospitals?

Speaker 8

And then are you typically replacing a manual kind of homegrown scheduling system or some other standalone technology solution?

Speaker 2

Well, a couple of really interesting things in that space for us. One, I would just describe it if there's kind of such thing as the very large enterprises and then there's the middle market and then there's the small urban or rural other thing is that we have this great relationship that's growing with Workday, where they're bringing us in to help kind of them have a complete offering and we've turned out to be really good partners in supporting customers' needs. And so we're getting brought into Workday accounts to with them to round out services and we just found that to be a great partnership. So kind of a good referral, almost a referral program for us, a good source of leads and compatibility. We just work really well with that team and our applications work together well and present well together.

Speaker 2

So that's been really exciting and fun. Usually we're taking out competitors in the market that have aging technology and we've got this emerging new good paradigm, great user interface with Ship Wizards. So organizations like UKG and API where we compete, we generally are replacing something. And so, I hope that answers your questions. And in general, we're trying to expand the capabilities at ShiftWizard to handle ever larger and larger systems.

Speaker 2

We do have some large systems as customers and we just need a more robust basically reporting and data analytics suite, which we have in learning, which is great. So we're going to use a lot of that infrastructure to launch a better class of data analytics and learning around scheduling, which we think will meet the needs of even the larger health systems. So we're excited about that. And that should be a this year event. We're making good progress on that as well.

Speaker 2

Again, as I mentioned with monthly releases of ShiftWizard, very exciting. We have a webinar and hundreds of people will attend for each monthly release to see what's coming on ShiftWizard. And it's just gaining traction and momentum and excitement as we add enterprise class features, so we can go after even larger customers.

Speaker 8

Great. And then just a follow-up, I guess, to Richard's question around metrics. Have you or can you talk about just how many hStream IDs have been claimed at this point? Is that something you can provide?

Speaker 2

It's interesting. It's over a1000000, but we got a lot of work to do. There's a lot of and we've been building tools for a long time now, deduping tools. We've been building tools to let people if they worked at one health system, they could claim their records another and combine them. So they have this unified transcript as an individual.

Speaker 2

So it is really exciting, but it's kind of still nascent. I mean, there's several steps in the process. First, we have to wire the application. We have dozens of applications to the hStream architecture using so it uses the hStream ID. And then we have to get the professionals to kind of claim, any other uses like we call it putting keys on key chains.

Speaker 2

So once you have an hStream ID, you're able to then go and say, oh, well, I also use this application. And so kind of merge that information, almost the way you do at Google where you get universal access to all their apps. But for us, it's a limited set of apps now. So we have over 1,000,000, what I'll call reconciled IDs and there's going to be millions more over time, but that is going to take time and that's until we can get to that pure subscriber count. We historically, you think of us as a B2B software, 3 separate tech stacks, But increasingly, the tech stacks are interrelated through the hStream platform and the hStream ID.

Speaker 2

And we're kind of mid stages maybe deploying both the technology and the reconciliation of ID. So over a million unique hStream IDs have been issued, which is really exciting, but there's millions more to go. And we expect steady quarterly progress on that. And of course, when we get to some place where we're excited, where we have enough momentum, that can become a metric and that could be the basis for some kind of ARPU. But there are 2 things that have to happen.

Speaker 2

1, more of our applications have to connect to it and then more of the users have to reconcile. And we've been building this is a very complex topic, but and we've been working on it for years. You have to have the reconciliation tools, the account joining tools, the keys on key chains, the management tool sets. And we're actually getting very good at those and the HealthStream ID deployment models, we're getting very good at all that. And so we expect it to kind of continue to spool up.

Speaker 8

And I guess just last question along those lines, where do you think you are in the journey, Bobby, whether it's in baseball terms or some other language, but just having all the apps on the platform, common architecture, making them all interoperable and seamless, just how far along do you think you are?

Speaker 2

Well, in the baseball analog, and I'm not a huge baseball person, but I'd say 3rd inning, but it's going faster. So it's one of those things that's not linear, like each inning isn't the same length. I think it's the kind of thing that can kind of be maybe geometric or maybe exponential, but definitely geometric where it should go faster than linear. And so while we're in maybe 3 out of 9 innings, the 4th should be faster than the 3rd and so on. So I think it can continue to spool up.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Vincent Colicchio with Barrington Research. Your line is open.

Speaker 2

Yes. Good morning, Bobby. Most of my questions have been answered. Just curious on the Credential Stream side, with the success you're having, has there been any competitive response in terms of trying to match your differentiation there? Well, no, we have lots of things to do in our roadmap to continue to differentiate.

Speaker 2

But right now, I think we've got a really exciting product. And in fact, to the point where, as I mentioned, organizations like Workday are thinking of us as a best of breed and bringing us into their deals. So I'm excited about what it is. Now where it's short is, as we've talked about this is some of its enterprise feature sets, particularly around data management reporting. Like if you're a large organization with 50, 60, 70 hospitals, you have different demands on how you distribute information and you're solving labor issues across markets and across regional deployments.

Speaker 2

And so we're going to get more sophisticated on that this year, but those are the advances that we have. Now the true differentiators are still yet to come. So we're beginning to incorporate some of the technologies of our platform, for example, the license service. I hope that by the end of the year, for example, we'll be using the license service that was built in Credential Stream to verify nurses' license before we schedule them. And so we have that capability, as you know, in our platform to check licenses.

Speaker 2

And so it will be a further differentiation as we connect ShiftWizard to services like the license verification service that is a function of our hStream platform. So that's an example of a differentiation yet to come that I hope is this year, that will continue to distinguish us from our competitors. And there are, of course, a roadmap full of those ideas as well.

Speaker 3

Hey, Vince, were you asking about credential stream on that your question?

Speaker 2

I think he was actually, because I just got a note from someone. So I guess the same holds true for Credential stream as it takes advantage of connectivity to the learning center, for example. We're in the middle of going back to customers that have both our learning system and our credentialing system and showing them the interoperability of the early stages of interoperability between those. For example, how logical is it, but if you earn a credential in the learning network, it should auto populate as a credential into your credentialing system. And so the same kind of answer holds is that there are plenty of differentiations to come this year that show interoperability and several that are in place now that we're beginning to market actively.

Speaker 2

So Bobby, were you just still responding to my question because I got cut off? I think in both cases, I try to give examples of both ShiftWizard and PrudentialStream that are going to be increasingly competitively differentiated by how they access services of the hStream platform, whether it's the h Stream ID to create interoperability, for example, your data following you from one system into the other. The example I just gave was a learning credential earned in the learning system following you into the credentialing system and maintaining its primary source verification status or a scheduling system that relies on the platform technology to check a license before you're scheduled and to verify your license is active before we schedule you. And so those are two examples of interoperability that are one is actively being marketed and the other is to come this year. But increasingly, the differentiation will come from how these applications interoperate or operate together and how data moves between them and how services built in the platform power up distinguished features in the application.

Speaker 2

This is true in learning, scheduling and credentialing. In all cases, we hope to further differentiate it. I think there's also a kind of a broader value proposition of getting these applications that are I think it's more appealing to a COO, a CTO, a CFO when they see a suite of software working together instead of individual separately implemented tech stacks. And so we're looking for operational synergy, implementation synergy over the coming months years. And one last one.

Speaker 2

How would you characterize pricing in the acquisition market? Is it rich? Is it improved? What would you say? Well, let's see.

Speaker 2

We didn't do a deal in the last 13 months. And during that, I guess, I would say in the last quarter or 2, I think a little bit of softening and some excitement that maybe deal pipelines can pick back up. But the private companies always hold on as long as they can to the past. And so maybe one of the concerning factors was that in the first half of the year. But I don't know how to say it.

Speaker 2

If you have a hot company that's a SaaS model and it's emerging and growing fast, you're going to be able to demand a premium for your business when you sell it. And so I think that is almost always true. Maybe fewer companies meet that criteria and they're also burning cash. So I think those companies, there's going to be some deals out there, I think, as companies try to recap at lower market caps in the next year or so. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Robert Frist, CEO, for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you to our analysts for following our story and helping us tell it. Thank you to our 1100 employees for making all this happen. We'll look forward to our continued reporting and growth as a company. Thanks for going along the journey, all of you shareholders. We'll see you on the next earnings call.

Operator

Thank you for your participation. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.

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