NYSE:JXN Jackson Financial Q4 2023 Earnings Report $81.75 +0.51 (+0.63%) Closing price 05/6/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$81.74 -0.02 (-0.02%) As of 04:27 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Jackson Financial EPS ResultsActual EPS$2.53Consensus EPS $3.53Beat/MissMissed by -$1.00One Year Ago EPS$5.66Jackson Financial Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.93 billionExpected Revenue$1.40 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$531.62 millionYoY Revenue Growth+3.30%Jackson Financial Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date2/21/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, February 22, 2024Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsJackson Financial's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, May 8, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Jackson Financial Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 22, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and I would like to welcome you all to the Jackson Financial Inc. 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. My name is Brika, and I will be the moderator for today's conference. All lines are on mute for the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I would now like to pass the conference over to your host, Liz Werner, Head of Investor Relations from Jackson Financial to begin. Operator00:00:43So Liz, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:46Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Jackson's Q4 and full year 2023 earnings call. Today's remarks may contain forward looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. These statements are not guarantees of future performance or events and are based upon management's current expectations. Jackson's filings with the SEC provide details on important factors that may cause actual results or events to differ materially. Except as required by law, Jackson is under no obligation to update any forward looking statements if circumstances or management's estimates or opinions should change. Speaker 100:01:20Today's remarks also refer to certain non GAAP financial measures. The reconciliation of those measures to the most comparable U. S. GAAP figures is included in our earnings release, financial supplement and earnings presentation, all of which are available on the Investor Relations page of our website at investors. Jackson.com. Speaker 100:01:38Joining us today are our CEO, Laura Prescorne our CFO, Marcia Watson our Head of Asset Liability Management and Chief Actuary, Steve Benares and our President and Chief Investment Officer of PBM, Craig Smith. At this time, I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Laura Prieskorn. Speaker 200:01:56Thank you, Liz. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our Q4 and full year 2023 earnings call. We have quite a bit to cover today, so we'll allow extra time to provide updates and answer your questions. We'll start with a review of our strong track record of capital return and success in delivering on our financial targets, followed by an overview of our Q4 and full year 2023 results. We'll also provide insights into the structure and strategic benefits of Brook Life Reinsurance Company or Brook Re, our recently formed captive reinsurer. Speaker 200:02:36In prior quarters, we discussed our focus on finding a durable solution to the statutory impact of the cash surrender value floor with the goal of better aligning our reserve liability with the economics of our business. By addressing the statutory requirements associated with cash surrender value floor, Brook Re provides the ability for more stable capital generation and reduced RBC volatility. It also allows the profitability of our healthy variable annuity book to be more transparent and intuitive in our results. Finally, we'll conclude today's remarks with our 2024 outlook and financial targets. Along with our expectations for sustainable capital return to shareholders. Speaker 200:03:25Turning to Slide 3, Jackson's capital returned to common shareholders since becoming a standalone public company in 2021 has exceeded $1,200,000,000 in the form of share repurchases and shareholder dividends. The Q4 of 2023 marked our 9th consecutive quarter with share buyback activity. And as of year end 2023, the cumulative common shares repurchased represented over 21% of shares outstanding at separation. We view our cash dividend as a valuable source of sustainable capital return and have cumulatively paid more than $450,000,000 to common shareholders in just over 2 years. Yesterday, we announced our board's approval of the 3rd increase in our common shareholder quarterly dividend to $0.70 per share, highlighting our confidence and our ability to generate capital, our focus on long term profitability and our commitment to increasing shareholder value. Speaker 200:04:36Moving to Slide 4. Maintaining a strong capital position at our operating companies and parent company Jackson Financial remains a priority as evidenced again this quarter. We ended 2023 above our RBC target range with an estimated ratio of 6 24% and with total adjusted statutory capital of more than $5,000,000,000 In January, we established Brook Re to be self sustaining from a capital standpoint, both initially and into the future. Pro form a for the transactions with Brook Re, Jackson National Life has an estimated RBC ratio of 5 43%, consistent with our guidance and our quarterly track record of being within or above our target RBC range. Going forward, we expect Jackson National Life statutory earnings and distribution capacity will more closely align with our adjusted operating earnings. Speaker 200:05:44Our holding company liquidity at year end continued to be well above our targeted minimum level and was approximately $600,000,000 As scheduled in November, we repaid $600,000,000 in senior debt, further enhancing our financial flexibility and resilient balance sheet. Holding company liquidity supports our capital return goals and provides a buffer for covering holding company expenses. In 2023, we returned $464,000,000 to common shareholders through share repurchases and common dividends, comfortably within our target range for capital return of $450,000,000 to 550,000,000 Our remaining common share repurchase authorization of approximately $300,000,000 combined with our holding company liquidity position us well for reaching our 2024 targets and building on our track record of consistent shareholder return. Jackson has consistently achieved or exceeded its financial target commitments and has maintained a strong capital position throughout. Our first 12 month capital return target was achieved within 6 months and we have consistently raised our annual financial target. Speaker 200:07:08We are pleased to share we are once again increasing our financial return targets in 2024 and we'll share more details later in the call. Moving to Slide 5. 2023 was a fantastic year of execution for Jackson with our financial performance highlighting the strong fundamentals of our business. Net income for the year was nearly $900,000,000 and adjusted operating earnings were $1,100,000,000 In 2023, we navigated volatile markets and maintained our resilient capital position, delivering on our commitments and investing in our business. Our statutory capital discipline allowed us to meet and exceed our financial targets while also capitalizing Brook Re in January 2024. Speaker 200:08:01Beginning in 2024 and subject to regulatory approval, we intend to have periodic distributions from our operating company throughout the year with the goal of reducing the RBC volatility that occurred from our past practice of sizable annual dividends. Variable annuity sales remained relatively stable over the course of the year and we have seen VA profitability improve with the rise in interest rates. Consumer preference for protection oriented products impacted the broader annuity market and Jackson met market demand through our registered index linked annuity or Ryla product suite. In our 2nd full year selling Ryla, sales were nearly $3,000,000,000 up 60% from 2022. Notably, Ryla sales in the 4th quarter alone reached $1,000,000,000 accounting for nearly 1 third of our total annuity sales and reaching a $4,000,000,000 annual run rate. Speaker 200:09:04For Jackson, Fryla's value proposition goes beyond sales diversification and positive net flows. Ryla also contributes to hedging efficiency, which in turn positively impacts capital. We have a long history of product innovation, strong distribution partnerships and industry leading service. These strengths combined with the enhancements made to our Ryla suite earlier this year positioned Jackson well for continued Ryla sales momentum. Our consistent ability to execute enables us to achieve our strategic and operational goals and serves as the foundation of our results. Speaker 200:09:49Summing it up on Slide 6, 2023 was a terrific year of progress for Jackson. We met or exceeded all financial targets for the 3rd consecutive time, ended 2023 with robust levels of capital and liquidity, grew our Ryla business and continued to create long term value for shareholders. I'll now turn the call over to Marcia to review our Q4 and full year financials and provide an overview of our Brook REIT transaction. Speaker 300:10:22Thank you, Laura. I'll begin with our Q4 results summary on Slide 7. Adjusted operating earnings of $204,000,000 decreased from last year's Q4 as stronger fee and spread earnings were more than offset by higher expenses as well as the impact of our annual assumptions review update. Our 4th quarter adjusted book value attributable to common shareholders increased from last year's Q4 due to healthy full year adjusted operating earnings. Slide 8 outlines the notable items included in operating earnings for the Q4. Speaker 300:10:58Results from limited partnership investments, which report on a 1 quarter delay, were below our long term expectation for a negative $28,000,000 notable impact. In the Q4 of 2020 2, limited partnership income was below our long term expectations, but to a greater degree, creating a comparative pre tax benefit in the current quarter of $34,000,000 Consistent with prior years, we completed our annual actuarial assumptions review in the Q4. This led to an unfavorable pre tax adjusted operating earnings impact of $60,000,000 in the current quarter compared to a benefit of $38,000,000 in the Q4 of 2022. The impact in 2023 was focused in the Closed Block segment, where we recorded a reserve increase for life insurance and annuitization benefits, driven by a decrease in lapses, partially offset by an increase in the long term earned rate. In addition to these notable items, both Q4 2022 and Q4 2023 benefited from a lower effective tax rate relative to the 15% long term guidance with a larger benefit in the current quarter. Speaker 300:12:10This occurred due to lower pretax operating earnings in the current quarter, which made tax benefits that are similar on a dollar basis more impactful. Adjusted for both the notable items and the tax rate difference, earnings per share were $3.07 for the current quarter compared to $3.37 in the prior year's 4th quarter. Key drivers of the year over year difference include higher levels of market related costs within operating expenses resulting from stronger equity markets as well as lower income on operating derivatives from higher levels of floating interest rates. While higher equity markets and interest rates created this near term reduction in adjusted operating earnings, they provide positive tailwind for future adjusted operating earnings due to a significantly larger fee base and an improved profitability profile. Slide 9 shows the same analysis, but on a full year basis. Speaker 300:13:10Earnings per share in 2023 after adjusting for the notable items were down 18 percent compared to full year 2022. Consistent with the Q4 of 2023, this was primarily the result of lower income on operating derivatives and higher levels of market related costs. As noted for the quarter, the same tailwinds from higher rates and equity markets will benefit earnings going forward. Slide 10 illustrates the reconciliation of our 4th quarter pre tax adjusted operating earnings of $203,000,000 to the pre tax loss attributable to Jackson Financial of $2,000,000,000 As shown in the table, the total guaranteed benefits and hedge results or net hedge result was a loss of $990,000,000 in the Q4 of 2023. Starting from the left side of the chart, you see a robust guaranteed benefit fee stream of $780,000,000 providing significant resources to support the hedging of our guarantee. Speaker 300:14:12These guaranteed benefit fees are calculated based on the benefit base rather than the account value, which provides stability to the guaranteed fee stream, protecting our hedge budget when markets decline. Consistent with our practice, all guarantee fees are presented in non operating income to align with the related hedging and liability movements. There was a $43,000,000 gain on freestanding derivatives, primarily due to gains on interest rate hedges in a quarter where interest rates were down across the yield curve, mostly offset by losses on equity hedges in a rising equity market environment. Movements in net market risk benefits or net MRB drove a $1,200,000,000 loss that more than offset the freestanding derivative movements due in large part to these same interest rate decreases. This illustrates that net income has historically included changes in liability values under U. Speaker 300:15:08S. GAAP accounting that have not aligned well with our hedging assets. As I will discuss later, we would expect going forward that U. S. GAAP accounting will better align with our economic hedging with the establishment and funding of the reinsurance relationship with Brook Re, leading to lower levels of net hedging gains or losses. Speaker 300:15:28Non operating results also included $841,000,000 of losses from business reinsured to 3rd parties. This was primarily due to a loss on a funds withheld reinsurance treaty due to the change in the associated embedded derivative value and the related net investment income. These non operating items, which can be volatile from period to period, are offset by changes in accumulated other comprehensive income or AOCI in the funds withheld account related to reinsurance, resulting in a minimal net impact on Jackson's adjusted book value. Furthermore, these items do not impact our statutory capital or free cash flow. Our segment results start on Slide 11 with retail annuity. Speaker 300:16:12As Laura highlighted, our Ryla product continues to gain momentum with our 4th quarter sales reaching a record level of more than $1,000,000,000 supporting further diversification in our top line. Sales of Inogenix without lifetime benefits increased to 53% of our total retail sales, up from 43% in the Q4 of last year. While recent consumer preference for protection results in VA sales below historical levels, higher interest rates provide an even stronger profitability profile on current sales. When viewed through a net flow lens, the gross sales we are generating in Ryla and other spread products translated to $1,000,000,000 of non VA net flow in the Q4 of 2023, which has grown materially over time. These net flows provide valuable economic diversification and capital efficiency benefits. Speaker 300:17:06Importantly, our overall sales mix remains efficient from the standpoint of new business strain. Looking at pretax adjusted operating earnings for our retail annuity segment on Slide 12, we show positive underlying trends in the growth across our annuity product categories as demonstrated by assets under management or AUM. Our variable annuity account value grew by double digits benefiting from stronger equity markets. Spread income continues to benefit from higher interest rates and strong net flows are driving growth in Ryla fixed and fixed indexed annuity account values. Furthermore, the positive momentum for our enhanced Ryla suite positions us well for ongoing success as we enter 2024. Speaker 300:17:52Ryla growth has an added benefit to our hedging efficiency as it has an upside equity risk profile that offsets the downside equity risk profile in our guaranteed VA business. Netting these risks reduces the amount of external equity hedging required to protect our business and this reduction grew to 14% as of the Q4 of 2023. As you can see, the benefit is not dollar for dollar as our $5,000,000,000 of Ryla account value is offsetting a larger amount of VA guarantee equity exposure, illustrating that we can rapidly grow this hedging offset benefit as Ryla AUM increases. Our other operating segments are shown on Slide 13. For our Institutional segment, pretax adjusted operating earnings were up from the prior year due to higher spread income and reduced interest expense. Speaker 300:18:46Sales in 2023 totaled $1,100,000,000 and account values ended the year at 8,400,000,000 dollars Our Closed Life and Annuity Block segment reported lower pretax adjusted operating earnings compared to the prior year. This is primarily due to the assumptions review impact I discussed earlier, partially offset by lower expenses. Slide 14 summarizes our year end capital position. We returned $117,000,000 to common shareholders in the 4th quarter through a combination of dividends and share repurchases. And we reached our capital return target for the 3rd straight time since becoming a public company. Speaker 300:19:29As Laura mentioned earlier, we also announced a 13% increase in our Q1 common dividend to $0.70 per share. We generated significant regulatory capital or TAC in the quarter driven by the profitability of our variable annuity book and effective risk management. Our TAC increased by approximately $700,000,000 to $5,200,000,000 reflecting positive variable annuity net guarantee results, strong base contract cash flows and tax benefits. As we moved closer to the end of the year, we began to transition our hedging to align more with our captive new modified GAAP approach, adding meaningful interest rate protection. This increased level of protection led to hedging gains when interest rates declined in December, which had little offset in regulatory capital due to our deeply floured out reserve position and contributed to the gain in capital in the Q4. Speaker 300:20:27These gains on interest rate hedges reflected an offset to the impact of lower rates on the modified GAAP liabilities in Book Re and helped to fund the initial capitalization I will discuss in a few moments. As we noted in our 8 ks in December, we expected J and L to remain at or above our target RBC range after the formation of Brook Re, which we were positioned to do whether rates rose or declined in December. There was an additional benefit from a lower level of required capital or CAL, which was driven by strong equity markets, partially offset by lower interest rates. The combined effects of the TAC increase and CAL reduction led to our estimated RBC ratio rising to 6 24%, well above our target range. Our holding company cash and highly liquid asset position at the end of the year was approximately $600,000,000 which continues to be well above our minimum buffer. Speaker 300:21:29We repaid the $600,000,000 senior debt obligation that matured in November and have no debt maturities until 2027. In the midst of Jackson's progress in 2023, the execution of our innovative long term solution to the cash surrender value floor was certainly a highlight, which we dive into beginning on Slide 16. Here we show the non economic aspects of the cash surrender value floor within statutory reserves and required capital. Statutory accounting for variable annuities uses a principal based reserving approach, looking at the present value of cash flows across a distribution of thousands of scenarios. It then focuses on the tail of these outcomes to determine the level of statutory reserves and required capital. Speaker 300:22:18These cash flow based outcomes would be represented by the red line on the chart where you can see that as you move left to right toward more favorable scenarios, the requirement gets smaller and smaller. The statutory framework also considers the aggregate cash surrender value or CSV of the variable annuity book, which is the amount due to policyholders in the unlikely event that 100% of all policyholders immediately surrendered their annuity. The statutory framework forces the cash flow based scenario requirements to be overridden by this cash surrender value if that surrender value exceeds the cash flow based outcome. This is illustrated by the beige line in the chart where only the extreme portion of the tail is above the cash surrender value and the remainder of the distribution is floored out. This has been a common issue for years at Jackson as our prudently designed and priced variable annuity book led to healthy cash flow based outcomes and a large portion of these scenarios forward at the CSV. Speaker 300:23:26We successfully managed this dynamic for many years, protected our balance sheet and generated significant distributable capital. However, the rise in interest rates pushed this impact further and further into the tail of the distribution. We continue to successfully navigate this situation, but the greater impact of the CSC floor led to several consequences. The fundamental impact was a consistently non economic profile of liability profile, we experienced volatility in statutory capital, required capital and the RBC ratio, especially when equity markets or interest rates were rising. Managing this one-sided movement required elevated levels of non economic hedging with associated cost to protect our capital position from these upside scenarios. Speaker 300:24:22Turning to Slide 17, you can see that this non economic hedging made our hedging strategy more complex and consumed resources that could have been put to better use. This resulted in yet another adverse outcome of less predictable earnings results and capital generation. We have consistently stated that our goals for this transaction were not focused on one capital benefits, but rather on creating a liability framework consistent with the way we manage our business. Specifically, this means reserves and hedging instruments would be aligned. This not only reduces the need for non economic hedging, but also makes it easier to explain our hedging strategy and allows us to focus hedging on the economic impacts to our business. Speaker 300:25:09And lastly, the removal of the CSC floor driven volatility means that we would see capital impacts emerge more intuitively with changes in equity markets and interest rates, making our results more predictable. Slide 18 describes and initial capital flows of our CSC floor solution. We formed Brook Re, a Michigan based captive reinsurer wholly owned by Brook Life Insurance Company. Brook Life, Brook Re and Jackson National Life Insurance Company or J and L are all domiciled in Michigan, giving us consistent regulatory oversight. Through the coinsurance agreement executed in January, the in force and future VA guaranteed benefits are transferred to Brook Re while the VA base contract remains at J and L. Speaker 300:25:58The base contract is expected to continue generating substantial earnings and capital for J&L and will continue to be subject to the CSC floor requirement. Application of the CSC floor minimum liability requirement is more relevant to the base contract, which can be monetized unlike the guaranteed benefits. The determination of reserves and required capital for the guaranteed benefits reinsured to Brook Reade will follow a modified GAAP framework, which we believe is a more appropriate economic approach. J and L will execute the hedging of these guarantees on Brook Re's behalf and will transfer the hedging gains and losses to Brook Re through a coinsurance agreement along with future fees collected, benefits paid and an allowance for expenses. J and L made a $749,000,000 capital distribution to Brooklife, which retained $50,000,000 to increase its capital position. Speaker 300:26:57Brookline made a 699 capital investment into Brook Re that serves as the carrying value on Brooklife's statutory balance sheet. A ceding commission of nearly $1,200,000,000 reflects the healthy expected cash flow profile of our VA guarantee. The ceding commission was funded through transactions that effectively round tripped the commission from J and L to Brook Life, then to Brook Re and back to J&L. Importantly, all of these initial capital flows were entirely within the operating entities, so holding company liquidity at JFI was not impacted by this transaction. Slide 19 summarizes the benefits of our modified GAAP reserve approach, which as we previously mentioned, aligns the economics of our liability with the way we manage our business. Speaker 300:27:50The key aspect is the lack of a cash surrender value floor, which means that modified GAAP reserves are always responsive to market movements as are the related hedge assets. Another benefit is that this arrangement creates a clear dividing line between the base contract at J&L and the guarantees at Brook Re. This will allow us to focus hedging on the guarantees and will help each quarter to provide greater transparency into the underlying economics and capital generation at J and L. The reserving methodology is modified GAAP as we received regulatory approval for some modifications to U. S. Speaker 300:28:29GAAP to add incremental stability to the captive balance sheet and facilitate a self sustaining entity with 4 main adjustments noted here on the slide. 2 of the adjustments are to use fixed long term volatility and non performance risk spread assumptions rather than market implied volatility in Jackson's own credit spread. These two adjustments help align the liability treatment to the hedging by removing aspects that we do not consider as primary risks to the business and therefore do not hedge. The second two adjustments are intended to apply a margin of prudence to the liability to help support the self sustaining design. These adjustments include a haircut to the guarantee fee stream reflected in the reserve and an expense provision for administration costs. Speaker 300:29:20All of these adjustments collectively tend to result in a more conservative reserve compared to U. S. GAAP. On slide 20, we explain our minimum operating capital and the determination of the initial capitalization amount. Our minimum operating capital framework is broadly similar to the statutory required capital risk charge methodology. Speaker 300:29:43A key change we made to the statutory framework is in the market risk component. As a reminder, the statutory market risk charge uses the same methodology as the reserve calculation, but measured further into the tail. The charge is then based on the relationship between this deep tail requirement and the reserves already posted. However, if we kept this exact approach, our reserves and required capital would be misaligned with reserves using an economic modified GAAP framework and the required capital using the statutory framework, which is impacted by the CSD floor. We corrected this by replacing the statutory deep tail calculation with a modified GAAP reserve that has been recalculated under stressed conditions. Speaker 300:30:29The market risk charge is then based on this stressed reserve relative to the original modified GAAP reserve. As a result of the $699,000,000 initial capitalization, Brook Reade's equity position is well above its minimum operating capital level. We seek to hold capital sufficient to remain above this minimum level following adverse scenarios. Our initial capitalization level means that we would have sufficient resources to remain above our minimum operating capital in more than 95% of scenarios and across multiple time frames. Importantly, we expect Brook Reedy to not only be self sustaining, but capital generative over the long term. Speaker 300:31:13Looking at Slide 21, this economic reserve and required capital framework is expected to lead to fewer one-sided hedging outcomes going forward. An economically responsive liability makes our hedge target more predictable and requires less frequent rebalancing and the removal of non economic upside protection reduces equity hedging costs. We will expect to have a higher level of interest rate protection going forward, which lines up well with our economic framework and is no longer complicated by the CSE floor. Lastly, we anticipate a high level of hedge effectiveness from this framework, while continuing to protect the business from the impact of larger shocks. All of these items should lead to a simpler hedging strategy and more intuitive financial results. Speaker 300:32:03Slide 22 summarizes how Brook Re will check all the boxes for our stated goals. We are very pleased to have a durable long term solution that aligns our reserves and hedging instruments, avoids having resources consumed by non economic hedging and simplifies the communication of our hedging strategy and financial results. Moving on from Brook Re, Slide 24 lays out the favorable profile of J and L going forward. We expect to see more stable and predictable capital generation and that this capital generation will better align with adjusted operating earnings as reported by JFI. Additionally, U. Speaker 300:32:43S. GAAP net income will benefit from lower volatility in net hedging results given our more U. S. GAAP focused liability structure. Capital generation at J and L will primarily be driven by VA based contract fee income, which is now completely separated from the guarantee. Speaker 300:33:02While fee business is the main driver of capital generation, we also continue to have significant balance diversification from our in force spread mortality business, which we seek to grow over time. Lastly, in addition to the anticipated strong future cash flow profile, J and L will have a robust initial capital position well above our targeted RBC level after consideration of the initial transaction impacts. Turning to Slide 25, as I noted earlier, one of the advantages of the Brook Re solution is increased alignment of capital generation at J and L with adjusted operating earnings at JFI. While there are differences in the two approaches, such as tax outcomes and acquisition cost treatment, we would expect adjusted operating earnings to be a directional proxy for capital generation over time. This would imply a greater degree of capital generation going forward than what we have seen since separation. Speaker 300:34:03We currently estimate that our annual capital generation would generally be at or above $1,000,000,000 The pie chart on the left side of the slide looks at U. S. GAAP reserves at JFI. Variable annuity fee based AUM makes up most of the reserves and will likewise be the biggest driver of capital generation. Economically, this is very similar to an asset management business with the earnings trajectory tightly aligned with AUM. Speaker 300:34:33As such, the level of future capital generation will be sensitive to equity markets and to a lesser degree net flows. We have a meaningful level of spread reserves and given the recent vintages of our retained non VA annuity block, we are delivering strong net flows. We expect this to continue given our positive momentum in Ryla and our desire to grow other spread sales as well. Lastly, our closed block life reserves reflect our successful M and A track record. Growth in this segment would depend on future acquisition activity. Speaker 300:35:08Slide 26 shows the J and L capital position after the funding of Brook Re. We ended 2023 with a very strong 6 20 4% estimated RBC ratio and our hedging will now fully align with our new framework. As I noted earlier, a $749,000,000 return of capital payment from J and L strengthened the capital position at Brook Life and gave a robust starting position at Brook Re. When you consider the secondary deferred tax asset admissibility impact, J and L's tax was reduced to $4,300,000,000 There was a modest offsetting benefit from the release of the VA guarantee capital requirement, reducing CAO by $36,000,000 This led to a very healthy pro form a estimated RBC ratio at J and L of over 5 40%. Slide 27 provides a look into the capital framework at the 3 main entities following this transaction. Speaker 300:36:09The target at our holding company JFI remains at 2 times its annual fixed expenses and as well in excess of that position coming into 2024. Jackson National Life is our primary operating company and as noted maintains a strong RBC level after the funding of Brook Re. Our captive reinsurer Brook Re is well capitalized with the expectation to be self sustaining under adverse scenarios and capital generative over the long term, and we expect our hedging to have a high degree of effectiveness. In summary, our innovative CSC floor solution delivers on the established goals of reducing the non economic influences in our liability requirements and hedging as well as increased transparency and more intuitive results. I will now turn it back over to Laura to provide our updated 2024 financial targets on Page 29. Speaker 200:37:05Thank you, Marcia. We are pleased to have yet again achieved our financial targets for the year ending 2023 and a strong financial position. Our year end results underscore Jackson's ability to maintain financial and risk management discipline, while continuing to serve our customers through product innovation, exceptional distribution and industry leading service. In 2024, we are targeting $550,000,000 to $650,000,000 in capital return to common shareholders. This represents a 20% increase from last year, is our 3rd increase since becoming an independent company and we believe there is further potential to grow given the expected long term benefits of Brook Re. Speaker 200:37:56We have increased our per share common dividend level by 13%, representing continued confidence in our business. Looking over the long term, since establishing our first dividend in the Q4 of 2021, we've increased our dividend per share by 40%. We continue to view our minimum RBC ratio at J and L as 4 25 percent and expect to operate above this level. Given a more stable and predictable capital and RBC ratio following the Brook Reade transaction, we believe that an RBC target range is no longer necessary. With respect to operating company dividend, our intent is to maintain our distributions from J and L to JFI through periodic payments over the course of the year as opposed to one large annual payment in the Q1. Speaker 200:38:54Our outlook for consistent capital generation reflects our high quality book of business and our ability to execute. Before closing, I'd like to acknowledge that the 2023 accomplishments covered today reflect the hard work of our incredibly talented associates who show up each day to provide long term solutions for Americans planning for their financial futures. I am grateful for their contributions and I am proud to work alongside a team so committed to our business, our communities, each other and the customers we serve. I look forward to working together to execute against our strategic priorities, building on our strong track record of performance excellence and delivering another set of outstanding results for 2024. Before we turn the call over to Q and A, I want to comment on the news of our CFO, Marcia Watson's future retirement plans. Speaker 200:39:53After 32 years of outstanding and dedicated service, Marcia has decided to retire. During her long tenure, she has led finance and actuarial teams across the organization and has had an incredible impact on the company overall. Her deep subject matter expertise has allowed for positive rating agency, analyst and shareholder engagements. Marcia was instrumental in our execution and transition to an independent public company and to our recently announced formation of Brook Re. Marcia will remain CFO until early June and will then continue to serve in an advisory capacity. Speaker 200:40:35We anticipate a smooth transition to Don Cummings, who is expected to assume the role of CFO at the time of Marcia's retirement. Many of you know Don, who is our current Controller and Chief Accounting Officer. He has been a valuable member of our senior management team since joining Jackson and we look forward to his future contributions as our next CFO. We are extremely grateful to Marcia for her contributions and leadership, which have had a positive impact on associates and external stakeholders, and we are excited for her to eventually enjoy retirement. I'll now turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator00:41:16Thank We have the first question from Ryan Krueger of KBW. Ryan, your line is open. Speaker 400:41:39Thanks. Good morning. My first question was on capital generation and you had mentioned you would expect $1,000,000,000 or more annually. So I had a couple of questions on that. One, was that for the in force business only or was that after new business strain? Speaker 300:41:59Hi, Ryan, it's Marcia. That would be after new business strain, in line with the level and kind of sales mix that we would typically be have been at recently, yes. Speaker 400:42:12Got it. And then I guess just given the strength of that comment, I guess how should we think about the $550,000,000 to $650,000,000 of capital return guidance that you provided for 2024 relative to the $1,000,000,000 or more of expected capital generation? Speaker 300:42:34Well, we are thinking about it in a couple of different ways, I guess, to go through. 1st, the capital generation will support the return of capital, as you noted, but it also will support the level of holding company expenses and debt service that we need to do. So there's a slice there that we need to think about. We've talked historically about our balanced use of capital between new business investment, which may could include, I guess, a different mix of business as we move forward over time that may require a different level of strain or upfront investment. Also capital return, certainly one of the priorities as well as just balance sheet strength. Speaker 300:43:23As we looked at our capital return for 2024, we recognize that the Brookbury transaction is new. And so we're going to take a measured approach here. But I think as Laura stated earlier, we would anticipate with this outlook that we might be able to see increases in our capital return as we move forward in time, given that profile of expected capital generation. Speaker 400:43:51Thanks. I had just one more follow-up. I wanted to make sure I understood. Is the $1,000,000,000 before the holding company expenses? Or is that net of the holding company expenses, which I think are usually about, maybe about 125,000,000 Speaker 300:44:08dollars Yes, it would be before. So that would be the just capital generation from the J and L entity, which would then need to in part for those holding company expenses that are, as you say, about $125,000,000 a year. Speaker 400:44:24Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:44:29Thank you. We'll move on to the next questioner, which is Suneet Kamath of Jefferies. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:44:38Thanks. Good morning. So just wanted to follow-up on Ryan's question. So I think over the past couple of years, the subsidiary dividends to the holding company have been around $600,000,000 So should we be expecting that to increase kind of given that $1,000,000,000 capital generation figure that you just mentioned? Speaker 300:44:58Hi, Suneet. Yes, I think, well, certainly to the extent that we're supporting a higher level of capital return, we would need to do that through a higher level of remittance from the operating company. And then as the capital return target moves forward in the future, likewise, we would have similar changes in our distributions to support that as needed. Speaker 500:45:27Okay, got it. And then I guess when we think about the capital efficiency of Brookery, I had that comment in the deck about 95% plus of the scenarios, it's adequately capitalized. I guess, what are the 5% or so scenarios where it's not? Like what would have to happen for you to need to contribute more capital into that business? The reason I ask is because I think we normally think about VA capitalization is really in that tail scenario, which I'm assuming would capture that 5% where capital is not sufficient. Speaker 500:45:56So just some color there. Speaker 300:46:01Sure. So first of all, I guess maybe I'll make a comment or 2 about how we set things up and structure things for our initial capital level. We looked at the capital that we had put in from Jackson, which was $700,000,000 and coupling that with a strong benefit from a negative liability puts us in a very strong balance sheet position to begin with. So we start off well above that minimum operating capital that we want to maintain going forward. And then what we've structured given the goals for Brook Ridge to be self sustaining as we structured a risk framework that looks at how the balance sheet might move as we look out over the future and in a short term view as well as a more longer term view and making sure that we would, as we stated earlier, be above that minimum capital over time, in greater than 95% or more than the 95th percentile of that distribution. Speaker 300:47:13So we're looking across a wide number of economic scenarios and wanting to be at least at the 95th percentile. As we started this out and looked at the opportunity that we had and how we wanted to set the balance sheet up to begin with, we had a very strong position in terms of our capital at J and L at the end of the year, which provided us with a good deal of flexibility in terms of how we could position the starting balance sheet for McGree. So because of that, we chose to capitalize initially at a level closer to the 98th percentile of the distribution. So want to be clear that we're not aiming to be right at the 95th. It's greater than the 95th and we're starting off in a stronger position than that. Speaker 300:48:03Looking at what some of those tail scenarios might look like, they would include the types of events that we would see we expect to see in the tail, very high realized volatility, strong decline in the equity market or strong drop in or big large drop in interest rates. The types of things you might see in the Q1 of that. Speaker 500:48:33Yes. Okay. Understood. And then I guess maybe just the last one just so we can kind of keep score on this. So normally we look at RBC and that's kind of how we determine the capital adequacy of your insurance sub. Speaker 500:48:45Now we have, Brookery. So what metrics are you going to give us sort of on a quarterly basis so we can kind of assess the capital adequacy of the subsidiary? Speaker 300:49:00We will speak to the capitalization generally, I think on a regular basis with respect to the captive, the brokerage entity. We don't, I think intend to put out a detailed kind of RBC like position in a different format for the Brook REIT, but we will speak to how it is performing, whether it maintains a good capital position and we'll probably generally speak to hedging in a different way than we have in the past where we have historically talked about hedge spend as one of the metrics that we would look at to assess whether our hedging needs were within the budget of the fees we collect, given that we'll have more probably more of a futures based hedging strategy and not quite so heavily options based strategy that that approach probably doesn't really fit going forward. So I think we'll talk in the future more about hedge effectiveness and how well our hedging has performed relative to our expectations. And that is really going to be what's going to be the driving force for the stability of the balance sheet moving forward. Speaker 500:50:13Okay. Thanks. Speaker 300:50:17Thank Operator00:50:22you. We have the next question from Tom Gallagher of Evercore ISI. Speaker 600:50:33Thanks. Just a follow-up to Suneet's question on the Brook Re. I know you mentioned the target, I guess, is going to be 95% plus. You're going to initially capitalize it closer to 98%. But isn't the VA standard now CTE98 across the industry? Speaker 600:51:01So shouldn't we be thinking about 98 being a better baseline? Or is there something about this agreement you have with the captive and your regulator that's going to allow you to run closer to 95? Speaker 300:51:18Well, Tom, I think of it in kind of 2 layers. I mean, we have a minimum operating capital, which is already kind of taking a place, if you will, of the market risk charge that we would have had in the statutory requirement. That being in the statutory world based on CTE98, we've translated that to something that is more applicable to a modified GAAP basis. But within our minimum operating capital, we're already capturing that level of kind of tail type situation and the level of required capital supports that. And then on top of that within our risk framework, we're looking out at adding further stresses on top of that as we move forward in time and ensuring that we maintain still that amount of minimum operating capital that in and of itself is already flexi of a stressed environment. Speaker 600:52:20Got you. And when we think about the $1,000,000,000 a year of annual capital generation, when we think about, I guess, remittances that you would expect to get up to the holding company every year? Are there any limitations that we should think about on the permitted annual dividend amounts? I believe you're at the greater of 10% of stat surplus or 100% of prior year's earnings. But will there be when you think about those rules, in all probability, do you think you'll be able to remit potentially $1,000,000,000 a year, free and clear or do you see the need to maybe get extraordinary dividends approved every year? Speaker 300:53:17Well, you're right. There are a number of kind of elements in terms of defining what's available as an ordinary dividend, what becomes an extraordinary dividend and like. We've historically had many periods in which our distributions were of the extraordinary dividend type. So we certainly have worked through that very well with our regulator when that is the case. So I think we don't as we look out, I don't think we're anticipating challenges around that in terms of just working through an understanding of where we sit, subject of course to the regulator approval when where that's needed, we we'll look through that. Speaker 300:54:00But I don't think we anticipate seeing any significant challenge there. Speaker 600:54:07Okay. Thanks. And just one final one, if I could. Can you give us a sense for the sizing of interest rate hedges that you purchased in Q4? And whether or not you're done at point or would you expect to do more interest rate hedging from current levels? Speaker 300:54:32Well, we had began our transition late in December, once we had our approval in hand and we're working toward that. And as of the very beginning of January, probably the 1st or second business day, we were fully built up with our hedging on our new modified GAAP basis, both with respect to our equity position and our interest rate hedge position. So we're we are where we need to be right from the beginning of January and have been operating on that basis, so far through the Q1. Speaker 600:55:08And would it be possible if you had to give us an idea of the sizing of it at all, notional amount of rate swaps or some measure just to give us some better perspective on where you went from and where you went to? Speaker 300:55:26Our positions that we would have had at the end of the year, which would have been, as I say, getting us quite close to where we needed to be would be something that you I think you'll see in the 10 ks disclosure. Speaker 600:55:40Got you. Thanks. Operator00:55:47Thank you. We have a follow-up Speaker 500:55:59I think before you talked about capital generation of $700,000,000 to $900,000,000 So let's call it $800,000,000 at the midpoint. And now you're talking about $1,000,000,000 dollars Is that $200,000,000 incremental capital generation, is that just lower hedge spend? Or I guess I just wanted to unpack that a little bit if you could. Thanks. Speaker 300:56:22Sure. I think the main thing that's really changed, I mean, if you think about the liabilities, the products themselves, the cash flows that they're throwing off are the same as what they would be before or after the transaction. So really the main driver of the difference is going to be the fact that we have relief from the amount of non economic hedging that we were doing in the past, which was costly. That's it's not to say that in every period that was or in every year that that was exactly $200,000,000 That was something that varied and I think contributed to the variability of our capital generation each year. So when we talked about that $700,000,000 to $900,000,000 we talked about that and kind of normal market conditions, which obviously aren't going to be the same 1 year to the next. Speaker 300:57:12I think one of the good things going forward is that what we will see is a much more consistent level of capital generation that won't have those influences of the spend that we needed to have for the non economic hedging to the degree that it was needed from 1 year to the next. And we'll just not have a lot of the cash value floor complications that made our capital generation sort of not always that transparent because it wasn't always coming through TAC. Sometimes the benefits were effectively more in the reduction in the required capital. So you could see things within the RBC ratio that weren't TAC movement. And I think as we move forward under this arrangement, we'll have much more consistency in that and the capital generation will be largely in the form of TAC increases. Speaker 500:58:09Okay. Got it. And then I guess maybe just the last one just on the RBC. So just want to be clear, you're targeting 425, but you're expecting to operate above that. Is that did I hear that right? Speaker 500:58:21Or just wanted to get a sense of like what should we be looking at or expecting in terms of RBC? Thanks. Speaker 300:58:28Sure. We left the minimum is unchanged at $425,000,000 that was the case before and will be going forward. So I think we'll probably be operating in a very similar range. We had a, again, well above $25,000,000 but probably in that kind of range we talked about before. We just aren't defining that whole thing as a target with a particular upper bound to it. Speaker 300:58:52But we would expect certainly to be operating generally at a level that's in excess of that 425 probably in largely within the range we've historically kind of focused on. Speaker 500:59:08Got it. Okay, thanks. Operator00:59:13Thank you. We currently have no further questions. So I'd like to hand it back to Laura Priscorn, CEO, for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:59:39Okay. Well, that wraps up our Q and A for today. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and I would like to welcome you all to the Jackson Financial Inc. 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. My name is Brika, and I will be the moderator for today's conference. All lines are on mute for the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I would now like to pass the conference over to your host, Liz Werner, Head of Investor Relations from Jackson Financial to begin. Operator00:00:43So Liz, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:46Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Jackson's Q4 and full year 2023 earnings call. Today's remarks may contain forward looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. These statements are not guarantees of future performance or events and are based upon management's current expectations. Jackson's filings with the SEC provide details on important factors that may cause actual results or events to differ materially. Except as required by law, Jackson is under no obligation to update any forward looking statements if circumstances or management's estimates or opinions should change. Speaker 100:01:20Today's remarks also refer to certain non GAAP financial measures. The reconciliation of those measures to the most comparable U. S. GAAP figures is included in our earnings release, financial supplement and earnings presentation, all of which are available on the Investor Relations page of our website at investors. Jackson.com. Speaker 100:01:38Joining us today are our CEO, Laura Prescorne our CFO, Marcia Watson our Head of Asset Liability Management and Chief Actuary, Steve Benares and our President and Chief Investment Officer of PBM, Craig Smith. At this time, I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Laura Prieskorn. Speaker 200:01:56Thank you, Liz. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our Q4 and full year 2023 earnings call. We have quite a bit to cover today, so we'll allow extra time to provide updates and answer your questions. We'll start with a review of our strong track record of capital return and success in delivering on our financial targets, followed by an overview of our Q4 and full year 2023 results. We'll also provide insights into the structure and strategic benefits of Brook Life Reinsurance Company or Brook Re, our recently formed captive reinsurer. Speaker 200:02:36In prior quarters, we discussed our focus on finding a durable solution to the statutory impact of the cash surrender value floor with the goal of better aligning our reserve liability with the economics of our business. By addressing the statutory requirements associated with cash surrender value floor, Brook Re provides the ability for more stable capital generation and reduced RBC volatility. It also allows the profitability of our healthy variable annuity book to be more transparent and intuitive in our results. Finally, we'll conclude today's remarks with our 2024 outlook and financial targets. Along with our expectations for sustainable capital return to shareholders. Speaker 200:03:25Turning to Slide 3, Jackson's capital returned to common shareholders since becoming a standalone public company in 2021 has exceeded $1,200,000,000 in the form of share repurchases and shareholder dividends. The Q4 of 2023 marked our 9th consecutive quarter with share buyback activity. And as of year end 2023, the cumulative common shares repurchased represented over 21% of shares outstanding at separation. We view our cash dividend as a valuable source of sustainable capital return and have cumulatively paid more than $450,000,000 to common shareholders in just over 2 years. Yesterday, we announced our board's approval of the 3rd increase in our common shareholder quarterly dividend to $0.70 per share, highlighting our confidence and our ability to generate capital, our focus on long term profitability and our commitment to increasing shareholder value. Speaker 200:04:36Moving to Slide 4. Maintaining a strong capital position at our operating companies and parent company Jackson Financial remains a priority as evidenced again this quarter. We ended 2023 above our RBC target range with an estimated ratio of 6 24% and with total adjusted statutory capital of more than $5,000,000,000 In January, we established Brook Re to be self sustaining from a capital standpoint, both initially and into the future. Pro form a for the transactions with Brook Re, Jackson National Life has an estimated RBC ratio of 5 43%, consistent with our guidance and our quarterly track record of being within or above our target RBC range. Going forward, we expect Jackson National Life statutory earnings and distribution capacity will more closely align with our adjusted operating earnings. Speaker 200:05:44Our holding company liquidity at year end continued to be well above our targeted minimum level and was approximately $600,000,000 As scheduled in November, we repaid $600,000,000 in senior debt, further enhancing our financial flexibility and resilient balance sheet. Holding company liquidity supports our capital return goals and provides a buffer for covering holding company expenses. In 2023, we returned $464,000,000 to common shareholders through share repurchases and common dividends, comfortably within our target range for capital return of $450,000,000 to 550,000,000 Our remaining common share repurchase authorization of approximately $300,000,000 combined with our holding company liquidity position us well for reaching our 2024 targets and building on our track record of consistent shareholder return. Jackson has consistently achieved or exceeded its financial target commitments and has maintained a strong capital position throughout. Our first 12 month capital return target was achieved within 6 months and we have consistently raised our annual financial target. Speaker 200:07:08We are pleased to share we are once again increasing our financial return targets in 2024 and we'll share more details later in the call. Moving to Slide 5. 2023 was a fantastic year of execution for Jackson with our financial performance highlighting the strong fundamentals of our business. Net income for the year was nearly $900,000,000 and adjusted operating earnings were $1,100,000,000 In 2023, we navigated volatile markets and maintained our resilient capital position, delivering on our commitments and investing in our business. Our statutory capital discipline allowed us to meet and exceed our financial targets while also capitalizing Brook Re in January 2024. Speaker 200:08:01Beginning in 2024 and subject to regulatory approval, we intend to have periodic distributions from our operating company throughout the year with the goal of reducing the RBC volatility that occurred from our past practice of sizable annual dividends. Variable annuity sales remained relatively stable over the course of the year and we have seen VA profitability improve with the rise in interest rates. Consumer preference for protection oriented products impacted the broader annuity market and Jackson met market demand through our registered index linked annuity or Ryla product suite. In our 2nd full year selling Ryla, sales were nearly $3,000,000,000 up 60% from 2022. Notably, Ryla sales in the 4th quarter alone reached $1,000,000,000 accounting for nearly 1 third of our total annuity sales and reaching a $4,000,000,000 annual run rate. Speaker 200:09:04For Jackson, Fryla's value proposition goes beyond sales diversification and positive net flows. Ryla also contributes to hedging efficiency, which in turn positively impacts capital. We have a long history of product innovation, strong distribution partnerships and industry leading service. These strengths combined with the enhancements made to our Ryla suite earlier this year positioned Jackson well for continued Ryla sales momentum. Our consistent ability to execute enables us to achieve our strategic and operational goals and serves as the foundation of our results. Speaker 200:09:49Summing it up on Slide 6, 2023 was a terrific year of progress for Jackson. We met or exceeded all financial targets for the 3rd consecutive time, ended 2023 with robust levels of capital and liquidity, grew our Ryla business and continued to create long term value for shareholders. I'll now turn the call over to Marcia to review our Q4 and full year financials and provide an overview of our Brook REIT transaction. Speaker 300:10:22Thank you, Laura. I'll begin with our Q4 results summary on Slide 7. Adjusted operating earnings of $204,000,000 decreased from last year's Q4 as stronger fee and spread earnings were more than offset by higher expenses as well as the impact of our annual assumptions review update. Our 4th quarter adjusted book value attributable to common shareholders increased from last year's Q4 due to healthy full year adjusted operating earnings. Slide 8 outlines the notable items included in operating earnings for the Q4. Speaker 300:10:58Results from limited partnership investments, which report on a 1 quarter delay, were below our long term expectation for a negative $28,000,000 notable impact. In the Q4 of 2020 2, limited partnership income was below our long term expectations, but to a greater degree, creating a comparative pre tax benefit in the current quarter of $34,000,000 Consistent with prior years, we completed our annual actuarial assumptions review in the Q4. This led to an unfavorable pre tax adjusted operating earnings impact of $60,000,000 in the current quarter compared to a benefit of $38,000,000 in the Q4 of 2022. The impact in 2023 was focused in the Closed Block segment, where we recorded a reserve increase for life insurance and annuitization benefits, driven by a decrease in lapses, partially offset by an increase in the long term earned rate. In addition to these notable items, both Q4 2022 and Q4 2023 benefited from a lower effective tax rate relative to the 15% long term guidance with a larger benefit in the current quarter. Speaker 300:12:10This occurred due to lower pretax operating earnings in the current quarter, which made tax benefits that are similar on a dollar basis more impactful. Adjusted for both the notable items and the tax rate difference, earnings per share were $3.07 for the current quarter compared to $3.37 in the prior year's 4th quarter. Key drivers of the year over year difference include higher levels of market related costs within operating expenses resulting from stronger equity markets as well as lower income on operating derivatives from higher levels of floating interest rates. While higher equity markets and interest rates created this near term reduction in adjusted operating earnings, they provide positive tailwind for future adjusted operating earnings due to a significantly larger fee base and an improved profitability profile. Slide 9 shows the same analysis, but on a full year basis. Speaker 300:13:10Earnings per share in 2023 after adjusting for the notable items were down 18 percent compared to full year 2022. Consistent with the Q4 of 2023, this was primarily the result of lower income on operating derivatives and higher levels of market related costs. As noted for the quarter, the same tailwinds from higher rates and equity markets will benefit earnings going forward. Slide 10 illustrates the reconciliation of our 4th quarter pre tax adjusted operating earnings of $203,000,000 to the pre tax loss attributable to Jackson Financial of $2,000,000,000 As shown in the table, the total guaranteed benefits and hedge results or net hedge result was a loss of $990,000,000 in the Q4 of 2023. Starting from the left side of the chart, you see a robust guaranteed benefit fee stream of $780,000,000 providing significant resources to support the hedging of our guarantee. Speaker 300:14:12These guaranteed benefit fees are calculated based on the benefit base rather than the account value, which provides stability to the guaranteed fee stream, protecting our hedge budget when markets decline. Consistent with our practice, all guarantee fees are presented in non operating income to align with the related hedging and liability movements. There was a $43,000,000 gain on freestanding derivatives, primarily due to gains on interest rate hedges in a quarter where interest rates were down across the yield curve, mostly offset by losses on equity hedges in a rising equity market environment. Movements in net market risk benefits or net MRB drove a $1,200,000,000 loss that more than offset the freestanding derivative movements due in large part to these same interest rate decreases. This illustrates that net income has historically included changes in liability values under U. Speaker 300:15:08S. GAAP accounting that have not aligned well with our hedging assets. As I will discuss later, we would expect going forward that U. S. GAAP accounting will better align with our economic hedging with the establishment and funding of the reinsurance relationship with Brook Re, leading to lower levels of net hedging gains or losses. Speaker 300:15:28Non operating results also included $841,000,000 of losses from business reinsured to 3rd parties. This was primarily due to a loss on a funds withheld reinsurance treaty due to the change in the associated embedded derivative value and the related net investment income. These non operating items, which can be volatile from period to period, are offset by changes in accumulated other comprehensive income or AOCI in the funds withheld account related to reinsurance, resulting in a minimal net impact on Jackson's adjusted book value. Furthermore, these items do not impact our statutory capital or free cash flow. Our segment results start on Slide 11 with retail annuity. Speaker 300:16:12As Laura highlighted, our Ryla product continues to gain momentum with our 4th quarter sales reaching a record level of more than $1,000,000,000 supporting further diversification in our top line. Sales of Inogenix without lifetime benefits increased to 53% of our total retail sales, up from 43% in the Q4 of last year. While recent consumer preference for protection results in VA sales below historical levels, higher interest rates provide an even stronger profitability profile on current sales. When viewed through a net flow lens, the gross sales we are generating in Ryla and other spread products translated to $1,000,000,000 of non VA net flow in the Q4 of 2023, which has grown materially over time. These net flows provide valuable economic diversification and capital efficiency benefits. Speaker 300:17:06Importantly, our overall sales mix remains efficient from the standpoint of new business strain. Looking at pretax adjusted operating earnings for our retail annuity segment on Slide 12, we show positive underlying trends in the growth across our annuity product categories as demonstrated by assets under management or AUM. Our variable annuity account value grew by double digits benefiting from stronger equity markets. Spread income continues to benefit from higher interest rates and strong net flows are driving growth in Ryla fixed and fixed indexed annuity account values. Furthermore, the positive momentum for our enhanced Ryla suite positions us well for ongoing success as we enter 2024. Speaker 300:17:52Ryla growth has an added benefit to our hedging efficiency as it has an upside equity risk profile that offsets the downside equity risk profile in our guaranteed VA business. Netting these risks reduces the amount of external equity hedging required to protect our business and this reduction grew to 14% as of the Q4 of 2023. As you can see, the benefit is not dollar for dollar as our $5,000,000,000 of Ryla account value is offsetting a larger amount of VA guarantee equity exposure, illustrating that we can rapidly grow this hedging offset benefit as Ryla AUM increases. Our other operating segments are shown on Slide 13. For our Institutional segment, pretax adjusted operating earnings were up from the prior year due to higher spread income and reduced interest expense. Speaker 300:18:46Sales in 2023 totaled $1,100,000,000 and account values ended the year at 8,400,000,000 dollars Our Closed Life and Annuity Block segment reported lower pretax adjusted operating earnings compared to the prior year. This is primarily due to the assumptions review impact I discussed earlier, partially offset by lower expenses. Slide 14 summarizes our year end capital position. We returned $117,000,000 to common shareholders in the 4th quarter through a combination of dividends and share repurchases. And we reached our capital return target for the 3rd straight time since becoming a public company. Speaker 300:19:29As Laura mentioned earlier, we also announced a 13% increase in our Q1 common dividend to $0.70 per share. We generated significant regulatory capital or TAC in the quarter driven by the profitability of our variable annuity book and effective risk management. Our TAC increased by approximately $700,000,000 to $5,200,000,000 reflecting positive variable annuity net guarantee results, strong base contract cash flows and tax benefits. As we moved closer to the end of the year, we began to transition our hedging to align more with our captive new modified GAAP approach, adding meaningful interest rate protection. This increased level of protection led to hedging gains when interest rates declined in December, which had little offset in regulatory capital due to our deeply floured out reserve position and contributed to the gain in capital in the Q4. Speaker 300:20:27These gains on interest rate hedges reflected an offset to the impact of lower rates on the modified GAAP liabilities in Book Re and helped to fund the initial capitalization I will discuss in a few moments. As we noted in our 8 ks in December, we expected J and L to remain at or above our target RBC range after the formation of Brook Re, which we were positioned to do whether rates rose or declined in December. There was an additional benefit from a lower level of required capital or CAL, which was driven by strong equity markets, partially offset by lower interest rates. The combined effects of the TAC increase and CAL reduction led to our estimated RBC ratio rising to 6 24%, well above our target range. Our holding company cash and highly liquid asset position at the end of the year was approximately $600,000,000 which continues to be well above our minimum buffer. Speaker 300:21:29We repaid the $600,000,000 senior debt obligation that matured in November and have no debt maturities until 2027. In the midst of Jackson's progress in 2023, the execution of our innovative long term solution to the cash surrender value floor was certainly a highlight, which we dive into beginning on Slide 16. Here we show the non economic aspects of the cash surrender value floor within statutory reserves and required capital. Statutory accounting for variable annuities uses a principal based reserving approach, looking at the present value of cash flows across a distribution of thousands of scenarios. It then focuses on the tail of these outcomes to determine the level of statutory reserves and required capital. Speaker 300:22:18These cash flow based outcomes would be represented by the red line on the chart where you can see that as you move left to right toward more favorable scenarios, the requirement gets smaller and smaller. The statutory framework also considers the aggregate cash surrender value or CSV of the variable annuity book, which is the amount due to policyholders in the unlikely event that 100% of all policyholders immediately surrendered their annuity. The statutory framework forces the cash flow based scenario requirements to be overridden by this cash surrender value if that surrender value exceeds the cash flow based outcome. This is illustrated by the beige line in the chart where only the extreme portion of the tail is above the cash surrender value and the remainder of the distribution is floored out. This has been a common issue for years at Jackson as our prudently designed and priced variable annuity book led to healthy cash flow based outcomes and a large portion of these scenarios forward at the CSV. Speaker 300:23:26We successfully managed this dynamic for many years, protected our balance sheet and generated significant distributable capital. However, the rise in interest rates pushed this impact further and further into the tail of the distribution. We continue to successfully navigate this situation, but the greater impact of the CSC floor led to several consequences. The fundamental impact was a consistently non economic profile of liability profile, we experienced volatility in statutory capital, required capital and the RBC ratio, especially when equity markets or interest rates were rising. Managing this one-sided movement required elevated levels of non economic hedging with associated cost to protect our capital position from these upside scenarios. Speaker 300:24:22Turning to Slide 17, you can see that this non economic hedging made our hedging strategy more complex and consumed resources that could have been put to better use. This resulted in yet another adverse outcome of less predictable earnings results and capital generation. We have consistently stated that our goals for this transaction were not focused on one capital benefits, but rather on creating a liability framework consistent with the way we manage our business. Specifically, this means reserves and hedging instruments would be aligned. This not only reduces the need for non economic hedging, but also makes it easier to explain our hedging strategy and allows us to focus hedging on the economic impacts to our business. Speaker 300:25:09And lastly, the removal of the CSC floor driven volatility means that we would see capital impacts emerge more intuitively with changes in equity markets and interest rates, making our results more predictable. Slide 18 describes and initial capital flows of our CSC floor solution. We formed Brook Re, a Michigan based captive reinsurer wholly owned by Brook Life Insurance Company. Brook Life, Brook Re and Jackson National Life Insurance Company or J and L are all domiciled in Michigan, giving us consistent regulatory oversight. Through the coinsurance agreement executed in January, the in force and future VA guaranteed benefits are transferred to Brook Re while the VA base contract remains at J and L. Speaker 300:25:58The base contract is expected to continue generating substantial earnings and capital for J&L and will continue to be subject to the CSC floor requirement. Application of the CSC floor minimum liability requirement is more relevant to the base contract, which can be monetized unlike the guaranteed benefits. The determination of reserves and required capital for the guaranteed benefits reinsured to Brook Reade will follow a modified GAAP framework, which we believe is a more appropriate economic approach. J and L will execute the hedging of these guarantees on Brook Re's behalf and will transfer the hedging gains and losses to Brook Re through a coinsurance agreement along with future fees collected, benefits paid and an allowance for expenses. J and L made a $749,000,000 capital distribution to Brooklife, which retained $50,000,000 to increase its capital position. Speaker 300:26:57Brookline made a 699 capital investment into Brook Re that serves as the carrying value on Brooklife's statutory balance sheet. A ceding commission of nearly $1,200,000,000 reflects the healthy expected cash flow profile of our VA guarantee. The ceding commission was funded through transactions that effectively round tripped the commission from J and L to Brook Life, then to Brook Re and back to J&L. Importantly, all of these initial capital flows were entirely within the operating entities, so holding company liquidity at JFI was not impacted by this transaction. Slide 19 summarizes the benefits of our modified GAAP reserve approach, which as we previously mentioned, aligns the economics of our liability with the way we manage our business. Speaker 300:27:50The key aspect is the lack of a cash surrender value floor, which means that modified GAAP reserves are always responsive to market movements as are the related hedge assets. Another benefit is that this arrangement creates a clear dividing line between the base contract at J&L and the guarantees at Brook Re. This will allow us to focus hedging on the guarantees and will help each quarter to provide greater transparency into the underlying economics and capital generation at J and L. The reserving methodology is modified GAAP as we received regulatory approval for some modifications to U. S. Speaker 300:28:29GAAP to add incremental stability to the captive balance sheet and facilitate a self sustaining entity with 4 main adjustments noted here on the slide. 2 of the adjustments are to use fixed long term volatility and non performance risk spread assumptions rather than market implied volatility in Jackson's own credit spread. These two adjustments help align the liability treatment to the hedging by removing aspects that we do not consider as primary risks to the business and therefore do not hedge. The second two adjustments are intended to apply a margin of prudence to the liability to help support the self sustaining design. These adjustments include a haircut to the guarantee fee stream reflected in the reserve and an expense provision for administration costs. Speaker 300:29:20All of these adjustments collectively tend to result in a more conservative reserve compared to U. S. GAAP. On slide 20, we explain our minimum operating capital and the determination of the initial capitalization amount. Our minimum operating capital framework is broadly similar to the statutory required capital risk charge methodology. Speaker 300:29:43A key change we made to the statutory framework is in the market risk component. As a reminder, the statutory market risk charge uses the same methodology as the reserve calculation, but measured further into the tail. The charge is then based on the relationship between this deep tail requirement and the reserves already posted. However, if we kept this exact approach, our reserves and required capital would be misaligned with reserves using an economic modified GAAP framework and the required capital using the statutory framework, which is impacted by the CSD floor. We corrected this by replacing the statutory deep tail calculation with a modified GAAP reserve that has been recalculated under stressed conditions. Speaker 300:30:29The market risk charge is then based on this stressed reserve relative to the original modified GAAP reserve. As a result of the $699,000,000 initial capitalization, Brook Reade's equity position is well above its minimum operating capital level. We seek to hold capital sufficient to remain above this minimum level following adverse scenarios. Our initial capitalization level means that we would have sufficient resources to remain above our minimum operating capital in more than 95% of scenarios and across multiple time frames. Importantly, we expect Brook Reedy to not only be self sustaining, but capital generative over the long term. Speaker 300:31:13Looking at Slide 21, this economic reserve and required capital framework is expected to lead to fewer one-sided hedging outcomes going forward. An economically responsive liability makes our hedge target more predictable and requires less frequent rebalancing and the removal of non economic upside protection reduces equity hedging costs. We will expect to have a higher level of interest rate protection going forward, which lines up well with our economic framework and is no longer complicated by the CSE floor. Lastly, we anticipate a high level of hedge effectiveness from this framework, while continuing to protect the business from the impact of larger shocks. All of these items should lead to a simpler hedging strategy and more intuitive financial results. Speaker 300:32:03Slide 22 summarizes how Brook Re will check all the boxes for our stated goals. We are very pleased to have a durable long term solution that aligns our reserves and hedging instruments, avoids having resources consumed by non economic hedging and simplifies the communication of our hedging strategy and financial results. Moving on from Brook Re, Slide 24 lays out the favorable profile of J and L going forward. We expect to see more stable and predictable capital generation and that this capital generation will better align with adjusted operating earnings as reported by JFI. Additionally, U. Speaker 300:32:43S. GAAP net income will benefit from lower volatility in net hedging results given our more U. S. GAAP focused liability structure. Capital generation at J and L will primarily be driven by VA based contract fee income, which is now completely separated from the guarantee. Speaker 300:33:02While fee business is the main driver of capital generation, we also continue to have significant balance diversification from our in force spread mortality business, which we seek to grow over time. Lastly, in addition to the anticipated strong future cash flow profile, J and L will have a robust initial capital position well above our targeted RBC level after consideration of the initial transaction impacts. Turning to Slide 25, as I noted earlier, one of the advantages of the Brook Re solution is increased alignment of capital generation at J and L with adjusted operating earnings at JFI. While there are differences in the two approaches, such as tax outcomes and acquisition cost treatment, we would expect adjusted operating earnings to be a directional proxy for capital generation over time. This would imply a greater degree of capital generation going forward than what we have seen since separation. Speaker 300:34:03We currently estimate that our annual capital generation would generally be at or above $1,000,000,000 The pie chart on the left side of the slide looks at U. S. GAAP reserves at JFI. Variable annuity fee based AUM makes up most of the reserves and will likewise be the biggest driver of capital generation. Economically, this is very similar to an asset management business with the earnings trajectory tightly aligned with AUM. Speaker 300:34:33As such, the level of future capital generation will be sensitive to equity markets and to a lesser degree net flows. We have a meaningful level of spread reserves and given the recent vintages of our retained non VA annuity block, we are delivering strong net flows. We expect this to continue given our positive momentum in Ryla and our desire to grow other spread sales as well. Lastly, our closed block life reserves reflect our successful M and A track record. Growth in this segment would depend on future acquisition activity. Speaker 300:35:08Slide 26 shows the J and L capital position after the funding of Brook Re. We ended 2023 with a very strong 6 20 4% estimated RBC ratio and our hedging will now fully align with our new framework. As I noted earlier, a $749,000,000 return of capital payment from J and L strengthened the capital position at Brook Life and gave a robust starting position at Brook Re. When you consider the secondary deferred tax asset admissibility impact, J and L's tax was reduced to $4,300,000,000 There was a modest offsetting benefit from the release of the VA guarantee capital requirement, reducing CAO by $36,000,000 This led to a very healthy pro form a estimated RBC ratio at J and L of over 5 40%. Slide 27 provides a look into the capital framework at the 3 main entities following this transaction. Speaker 300:36:09The target at our holding company JFI remains at 2 times its annual fixed expenses and as well in excess of that position coming into 2024. Jackson National Life is our primary operating company and as noted maintains a strong RBC level after the funding of Brook Re. Our captive reinsurer Brook Re is well capitalized with the expectation to be self sustaining under adverse scenarios and capital generative over the long term, and we expect our hedging to have a high degree of effectiveness. In summary, our innovative CSC floor solution delivers on the established goals of reducing the non economic influences in our liability requirements and hedging as well as increased transparency and more intuitive results. I will now turn it back over to Laura to provide our updated 2024 financial targets on Page 29. Speaker 200:37:05Thank you, Marcia. We are pleased to have yet again achieved our financial targets for the year ending 2023 and a strong financial position. Our year end results underscore Jackson's ability to maintain financial and risk management discipline, while continuing to serve our customers through product innovation, exceptional distribution and industry leading service. In 2024, we are targeting $550,000,000 to $650,000,000 in capital return to common shareholders. This represents a 20% increase from last year, is our 3rd increase since becoming an independent company and we believe there is further potential to grow given the expected long term benefits of Brook Re. Speaker 200:37:56We have increased our per share common dividend level by 13%, representing continued confidence in our business. Looking over the long term, since establishing our first dividend in the Q4 of 2021, we've increased our dividend per share by 40%. We continue to view our minimum RBC ratio at J and L as 4 25 percent and expect to operate above this level. Given a more stable and predictable capital and RBC ratio following the Brook Reade transaction, we believe that an RBC target range is no longer necessary. With respect to operating company dividend, our intent is to maintain our distributions from J and L to JFI through periodic payments over the course of the year as opposed to one large annual payment in the Q1. Speaker 200:38:54Our outlook for consistent capital generation reflects our high quality book of business and our ability to execute. Before closing, I'd like to acknowledge that the 2023 accomplishments covered today reflect the hard work of our incredibly talented associates who show up each day to provide long term solutions for Americans planning for their financial futures. I am grateful for their contributions and I am proud to work alongside a team so committed to our business, our communities, each other and the customers we serve. I look forward to working together to execute against our strategic priorities, building on our strong track record of performance excellence and delivering another set of outstanding results for 2024. Before we turn the call over to Q and A, I want to comment on the news of our CFO, Marcia Watson's future retirement plans. Speaker 200:39:53After 32 years of outstanding and dedicated service, Marcia has decided to retire. During her long tenure, she has led finance and actuarial teams across the organization and has had an incredible impact on the company overall. Her deep subject matter expertise has allowed for positive rating agency, analyst and shareholder engagements. Marcia was instrumental in our execution and transition to an independent public company and to our recently announced formation of Brook Re. Marcia will remain CFO until early June and will then continue to serve in an advisory capacity. Speaker 200:40:35We anticipate a smooth transition to Don Cummings, who is expected to assume the role of CFO at the time of Marcia's retirement. Many of you know Don, who is our current Controller and Chief Accounting Officer. He has been a valuable member of our senior management team since joining Jackson and we look forward to his future contributions as our next CFO. We are extremely grateful to Marcia for her contributions and leadership, which have had a positive impact on associates and external stakeholders, and we are excited for her to eventually enjoy retirement. I'll now turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator00:41:16Thank We have the first question from Ryan Krueger of KBW. Ryan, your line is open. Speaker 400:41:39Thanks. Good morning. My first question was on capital generation and you had mentioned you would expect $1,000,000,000 or more annually. So I had a couple of questions on that. One, was that for the in force business only or was that after new business strain? Speaker 300:41:59Hi, Ryan, it's Marcia. That would be after new business strain, in line with the level and kind of sales mix that we would typically be have been at recently, yes. Speaker 400:42:12Got it. And then I guess just given the strength of that comment, I guess how should we think about the $550,000,000 to $650,000,000 of capital return guidance that you provided for 2024 relative to the $1,000,000,000 or more of expected capital generation? Speaker 300:42:34Well, we are thinking about it in a couple of different ways, I guess, to go through. 1st, the capital generation will support the return of capital, as you noted, but it also will support the level of holding company expenses and debt service that we need to do. So there's a slice there that we need to think about. We've talked historically about our balanced use of capital between new business investment, which may could include, I guess, a different mix of business as we move forward over time that may require a different level of strain or upfront investment. Also capital return, certainly one of the priorities as well as just balance sheet strength. Speaker 300:43:23As we looked at our capital return for 2024, we recognize that the Brookbury transaction is new. And so we're going to take a measured approach here. But I think as Laura stated earlier, we would anticipate with this outlook that we might be able to see increases in our capital return as we move forward in time, given that profile of expected capital generation. Speaker 400:43:51Thanks. I had just one more follow-up. I wanted to make sure I understood. Is the $1,000,000,000 before the holding company expenses? Or is that net of the holding company expenses, which I think are usually about, maybe about 125,000,000 Speaker 300:44:08dollars Yes, it would be before. So that would be the just capital generation from the J and L entity, which would then need to in part for those holding company expenses that are, as you say, about $125,000,000 a year. Speaker 400:44:24Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:44:29Thank you. We'll move on to the next questioner, which is Suneet Kamath of Jefferies. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:44:38Thanks. Good morning. So just wanted to follow-up on Ryan's question. So I think over the past couple of years, the subsidiary dividends to the holding company have been around $600,000,000 So should we be expecting that to increase kind of given that $1,000,000,000 capital generation figure that you just mentioned? Speaker 300:44:58Hi, Suneet. Yes, I think, well, certainly to the extent that we're supporting a higher level of capital return, we would need to do that through a higher level of remittance from the operating company. And then as the capital return target moves forward in the future, likewise, we would have similar changes in our distributions to support that as needed. Speaker 500:45:27Okay, got it. And then I guess when we think about the capital efficiency of Brookery, I had that comment in the deck about 95% plus of the scenarios, it's adequately capitalized. I guess, what are the 5% or so scenarios where it's not? Like what would have to happen for you to need to contribute more capital into that business? The reason I ask is because I think we normally think about VA capitalization is really in that tail scenario, which I'm assuming would capture that 5% where capital is not sufficient. Speaker 500:45:56So just some color there. Speaker 300:46:01Sure. So first of all, I guess maybe I'll make a comment or 2 about how we set things up and structure things for our initial capital level. We looked at the capital that we had put in from Jackson, which was $700,000,000 and coupling that with a strong benefit from a negative liability puts us in a very strong balance sheet position to begin with. So we start off well above that minimum operating capital that we want to maintain going forward. And then what we've structured given the goals for Brook Ridge to be self sustaining as we structured a risk framework that looks at how the balance sheet might move as we look out over the future and in a short term view as well as a more longer term view and making sure that we would, as we stated earlier, be above that minimum capital over time, in greater than 95% or more than the 95th percentile of that distribution. Speaker 300:47:13So we're looking across a wide number of economic scenarios and wanting to be at least at the 95th percentile. As we started this out and looked at the opportunity that we had and how we wanted to set the balance sheet up to begin with, we had a very strong position in terms of our capital at J and L at the end of the year, which provided us with a good deal of flexibility in terms of how we could position the starting balance sheet for McGree. So because of that, we chose to capitalize initially at a level closer to the 98th percentile of the distribution. So want to be clear that we're not aiming to be right at the 95th. It's greater than the 95th and we're starting off in a stronger position than that. Speaker 300:48:03Looking at what some of those tail scenarios might look like, they would include the types of events that we would see we expect to see in the tail, very high realized volatility, strong decline in the equity market or strong drop in or big large drop in interest rates. The types of things you might see in the Q1 of that. Speaker 500:48:33Yes. Okay. Understood. And then I guess maybe just the last one just so we can kind of keep score on this. So normally we look at RBC and that's kind of how we determine the capital adequacy of your insurance sub. Speaker 500:48:45Now we have, Brookery. So what metrics are you going to give us sort of on a quarterly basis so we can kind of assess the capital adequacy of the subsidiary? Speaker 300:49:00We will speak to the capitalization generally, I think on a regular basis with respect to the captive, the brokerage entity. We don't, I think intend to put out a detailed kind of RBC like position in a different format for the Brook REIT, but we will speak to how it is performing, whether it maintains a good capital position and we'll probably generally speak to hedging in a different way than we have in the past where we have historically talked about hedge spend as one of the metrics that we would look at to assess whether our hedging needs were within the budget of the fees we collect, given that we'll have more probably more of a futures based hedging strategy and not quite so heavily options based strategy that that approach probably doesn't really fit going forward. So I think we'll talk in the future more about hedge effectiveness and how well our hedging has performed relative to our expectations. And that is really going to be what's going to be the driving force for the stability of the balance sheet moving forward. Speaker 500:50:13Okay. Thanks. Speaker 300:50:17Thank Operator00:50:22you. We have the next question from Tom Gallagher of Evercore ISI. Speaker 600:50:33Thanks. Just a follow-up to Suneet's question on the Brook Re. I know you mentioned the target, I guess, is going to be 95% plus. You're going to initially capitalize it closer to 98%. But isn't the VA standard now CTE98 across the industry? Speaker 600:51:01So shouldn't we be thinking about 98 being a better baseline? Or is there something about this agreement you have with the captive and your regulator that's going to allow you to run closer to 95? Speaker 300:51:18Well, Tom, I think of it in kind of 2 layers. I mean, we have a minimum operating capital, which is already kind of taking a place, if you will, of the market risk charge that we would have had in the statutory requirement. That being in the statutory world based on CTE98, we've translated that to something that is more applicable to a modified GAAP basis. But within our minimum operating capital, we're already capturing that level of kind of tail type situation and the level of required capital supports that. And then on top of that within our risk framework, we're looking out at adding further stresses on top of that as we move forward in time and ensuring that we maintain still that amount of minimum operating capital that in and of itself is already flexi of a stressed environment. Speaker 600:52:20Got you. And when we think about the $1,000,000,000 a year of annual capital generation, when we think about, I guess, remittances that you would expect to get up to the holding company every year? Are there any limitations that we should think about on the permitted annual dividend amounts? I believe you're at the greater of 10% of stat surplus or 100% of prior year's earnings. But will there be when you think about those rules, in all probability, do you think you'll be able to remit potentially $1,000,000,000 a year, free and clear or do you see the need to maybe get extraordinary dividends approved every year? Speaker 300:53:17Well, you're right. There are a number of kind of elements in terms of defining what's available as an ordinary dividend, what becomes an extraordinary dividend and like. We've historically had many periods in which our distributions were of the extraordinary dividend type. So we certainly have worked through that very well with our regulator when that is the case. So I think we don't as we look out, I don't think we're anticipating challenges around that in terms of just working through an understanding of where we sit, subject of course to the regulator approval when where that's needed, we we'll look through that. Speaker 300:54:00But I don't think we anticipate seeing any significant challenge there. Speaker 600:54:07Okay. Thanks. And just one final one, if I could. Can you give us a sense for the sizing of interest rate hedges that you purchased in Q4? And whether or not you're done at point or would you expect to do more interest rate hedging from current levels? Speaker 300:54:32Well, we had began our transition late in December, once we had our approval in hand and we're working toward that. And as of the very beginning of January, probably the 1st or second business day, we were fully built up with our hedging on our new modified GAAP basis, both with respect to our equity position and our interest rate hedge position. So we're we are where we need to be right from the beginning of January and have been operating on that basis, so far through the Q1. Speaker 600:55:08And would it be possible if you had to give us an idea of the sizing of it at all, notional amount of rate swaps or some measure just to give us some better perspective on where you went from and where you went to? Speaker 300:55:26Our positions that we would have had at the end of the year, which would have been, as I say, getting us quite close to where we needed to be would be something that you I think you'll see in the 10 ks disclosure. Speaker 600:55:40Got you. Thanks. Operator00:55:47Thank you. We have a follow-up Speaker 500:55:59I think before you talked about capital generation of $700,000,000 to $900,000,000 So let's call it $800,000,000 at the midpoint. And now you're talking about $1,000,000,000 dollars Is that $200,000,000 incremental capital generation, is that just lower hedge spend? Or I guess I just wanted to unpack that a little bit if you could. Thanks. Speaker 300:56:22Sure. I think the main thing that's really changed, I mean, if you think about the liabilities, the products themselves, the cash flows that they're throwing off are the same as what they would be before or after the transaction. So really the main driver of the difference is going to be the fact that we have relief from the amount of non economic hedging that we were doing in the past, which was costly. That's it's not to say that in every period that was or in every year that that was exactly $200,000,000 That was something that varied and I think contributed to the variability of our capital generation each year. So when we talked about that $700,000,000 to $900,000,000 we talked about that and kind of normal market conditions, which obviously aren't going to be the same 1 year to the next. Speaker 300:57:12I think one of the good things going forward is that what we will see is a much more consistent level of capital generation that won't have those influences of the spend that we needed to have for the non economic hedging to the degree that it was needed from 1 year to the next. And we'll just not have a lot of the cash value floor complications that made our capital generation sort of not always that transparent because it wasn't always coming through TAC. Sometimes the benefits were effectively more in the reduction in the required capital. So you could see things within the RBC ratio that weren't TAC movement. And I think as we move forward under this arrangement, we'll have much more consistency in that and the capital generation will be largely in the form of TAC increases. Speaker 500:58:09Okay. Got it. And then I guess maybe just the last one just on the RBC. So just want to be clear, you're targeting 425, but you're expecting to operate above that. Is that did I hear that right? Speaker 500:58:21Or just wanted to get a sense of like what should we be looking at or expecting in terms of RBC? Thanks. Speaker 300:58:28Sure. We left the minimum is unchanged at $425,000,000 that was the case before and will be going forward. So I think we'll probably be operating in a very similar range. We had a, again, well above $25,000,000 but probably in that kind of range we talked about before. We just aren't defining that whole thing as a target with a particular upper bound to it. Speaker 300:58:52But we would expect certainly to be operating generally at a level that's in excess of that 425 probably in largely within the range we've historically kind of focused on. Speaker 500:59:08Got it. Okay, thanks. Operator00:59:13Thank you. We currently have no further questions. So I'd like to hand it back to Laura Priscorn, CEO, for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:59:39Okay. Well, that wraps up our Q and A for today. Thank you everyone for your continued interest in Jackson. Appreciate you joining us today and look forward to speaking with you again soon. Take care. Operator00:59:55Thank you all for joining the Jackson Financial Inc. 4th quarter 'twenty three earnings call. I can confirm this has now concluded and you may now disconnect your lines. And please enjoy the rest of your day.Read morePowered by