PowerSchool Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • PowerSchool delivered 13% Q4 revenue growth to $182M, subscription & support revenue up 16%, ARR jumped 18% to $701M, and adjusted EBITDA of $59M exceeded guidance with a 32.6% margin.
  • The company executed its growth strategy with major cross‐sell wins at Chicago Public Schools and Valley Independent SD, and closed a double‐digit million contract with the Indiana Department of Education for special programs case management.
  • In January, PowerSchool acquired Ollivue, expanding into advanced K–12 budget management, planning and analytics to address districts’ post-COVID funding needs and broaden its finance software TAM.
  • PowerSchool launched PowerBuddy, a personalized AI assistant integrated across its platform, and has begun monetizing generative AI in assessment and content repositories with strong customer pipeline.
  • For 2024, the company guided to $786–792M in revenue (≈13% growth) and a 34.2% adjusted EBITDA margin while achieving a record 18.6% free cash flow margin in 2023 and targeting net debt leverage of 2.5–3.0x.
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Earnings Conference Call
PowerSchool Q4 2023
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There are 14 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, greetings and welcome to the PowerSchool 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Shane Harrison, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Welcome everyone to PowerSchool's earnings conference call for the Q4 full year ended December 31, 2023. I wanted to first let you know that we posted a slide deck to the Investor Relations section of our website that accompanies our remarks here. On the call today, we have PowerSchool's CEO, Hardeep Gulati and President and CFO, Eric Shander. Before getting started, I'd like to emphasize that this call, including the Q and A portion, will include statements related to the expected future results for our company, which are therefore forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Our actual results may differ materially from our projections due to a number of risks and uncertainties. The risks and uncertainties that forward looking statements are subject to are described in our earnings release and other SEC filings. Today's remarks will also include references to non GAAP financial measures. Additional information, including definitions and reconciliations between non GAAP financial information and the GAAP financial information is provided in the corresponding press release and results presentation, which are both posted on PowerSchool's Investor Relations website at investors. Powerschool.com.

Speaker 1

A replay of this call will also be posted to the same website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ardeep.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Shane, and thank you, everyone, for your time today. PowerSchool finished 2023 with another outstanding quarter of execution, innovation and profitability. Once again, we delivered double digit revenue growth that was within our guidance while exceeding our guidance for adjusted EBITDA. For every quarter since our IPO, now 10th quarter in a row, we have met or exceeded the guidance we provided for both revenue and EBITDA. We crossed $700,000,000 of annual recurring revenue as of December.

Speaker 2

And for the year, we grew our top line double digits while expanding our adjusted EBITDA margin by 210 basis points to 33.2%. And we continue to translate our success into cash through our durable financial model, reaching a record free cash flow margin in 2023. Looking at the Slide 4 of the presentation, you will see our 4th quarter results. Total revenue grew 13% and subscription and support revenue grew 16%. ARR increased 18% to $701,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA of $59,000,000 was ahead of the high end of our guidance.

Speaker 2

At our Investor Day in September, we laid out 4 key components of growth strategy: cross selling and growing our large expanding customer base continued advancement of our platform through innovations and acquisitions, increased our global reach and investing in building personalized education solutions. This quarter exemplified how we executed across all four. Starting with cross sell and new logo traction, we saw many customer wins in the Q4 that were driven by our differentiated and comprehensive platform of solutions, and we are seeing continued momentum as we enter 2024. As summarized on Slide 7, we saw several cross sell deals in Q4. Chicago Public Schools, the 3rd largest school district in the U.

Speaker 2

S. And user of several of our products, chose to add our professional development solution within our Educator Effectiveness Cloud to support their 20,000 teachers with effective career growth support. Valley Independent School District in Texas expanded from their usage of Naviance by adding 4 of our solutions: assessment, insights, staff evaluation and professional development. Similarly, the Atlantic City Board of Education New Jersey, user of our student information system and enrollment solutions, added insights, behavior, assessment and curriculum planning to bring their product count to 6. We also had a large multimillion dollar cross sell expansion with a virtual school organization who uses our SIS that added our Schoology LMS, assessment, Naviance, ContentNav and Connected Intelligence platform.

Speaker 2

In the quarter, we also continued our partnership with the Puerto Rico Department of Education by booking further services related to their territory wide attendance tracking system on top of our assist and enrollment solutions after our successful go live last fall. Data driven solutions that provide valuable insight into student, school and district performance and operations continue to meet a large and growing market need. In 2023, we saw 50% increase in the number of deals for our data products, with the total annualized value of those deals increasing over 60% year over year. In the Q4, we saw this through dozens of customer wins, including cross sales with Cherry Creek School District in Colorado and Toledo School District in Ohio, who both selected Connected Intelligence. And finally, our statewide vendor of choice win with the Indiana Department of Education closed just after the end of the year in January.

Speaker 2

This is the largest win for our special programs product line in double digit millions, which will enable the Indiana DOE and all of its school and districts in the state with advanced special education case management, eligibility and progress tracking, individual education plan development and service reporting and documentation. Moving on to the Slide 6 and our platform expansion successes in the quarter. In January, we acquired Ollivue, an innovative advanced budget management, planning and analytics SaaS startup, specifically focused on the K-twelve education market. We are seeing this as a top of the mind need for many districts as they focus on more effective and efficient use of their ongoing budget as the extra COVID related federal stimulus funds wind down. We have partnered with all of you over the last few years as a strategic add on to our K-twelve ERP systems.

Speaker 2

OliView also allows us to expand our reach into the broader K-twelve Finance software market as it integrates with other ERP systems. We are excited to add the Olliview capabilities to the PowerSchool solutions and the analytics platform, so we can provide even more comprehensive analytics that include financial planning as well as enable districts to create more accountability and transparency by seeing the education improvement ROI of their budget investments. Our international expansion initiative made further strides during the quarter, also shown on Slide 6, with a great international win with Marif Education in Saudi Arabia, which is a great case study on how PowerSchool can land and expand with our platform in international markets. Marif already uses 9 PowerSchool solutions for the international schools, and in the quarter, they added 2 of our recent innovations, Connected Intelligence and My PowerSchool. Myri also expanded the rollout of the PowerSchool platform to 13,000 additional students in their national schools, leveraging the localization framework and the right to left translations we have built for the Middle East region.

Speaker 2

We continue to expand our international reach in Q4 by signing 4 additional channel partners, all of which are strong technology resellers and integrators focused on the Latin America region, a strategic growth market for us given our highly successful nationwide Schoology rollout in Uruguay during the pandemic. With these 4, we finished 2023 with 14 new international channel partners ahead of our goal of 12. Also during the quarter, we hired a General Manager for our international efforts who has a strong background in global enterprise sales and operations. Our focus to 2024 will be to onboard our resell partners, sign on new ones, continue expansion to the growing global customer base and develop sales opportunities and pipe as we build towards our goal of having an international business that contributes 10% of our revenue by 2028. Turning now to our innovation momentum on Slide 7.

Speaker 2

As we shared at our Investor Day in September, one of the biggest growth opportunities, which significantly expands our TAM to $100,000,000,000 is providing a personalized education for every student journey. With the advancement of generative AI, we now have the ability to personalize education at scale and provide conversational adaptive and tailored engagement for everyone in the education ecosystem, teachers, administrators, parents and students, all of whom contribute to the successful education outcome. There is a weakness in the generalized AI technologies and standalone supplemental AI tutors in that they don't have the details of what the individual student needs are. The context of what's happening in the classroom and with the homework, not the access to the daily engagements a student has with all the personas. With us being the most comprehensive K-twelve platform in the market, we at PowerSchool have solutions that process and understand all the key elements in education, including the student, classroom, school, teacher and district operations.

Speaker 2

And as the most pervasively deployed education platform in North America, we are interacting with all the personas in education millions of times per day. Combining these unique differentiators has resulted in our very exciting recently launched comprehensive personalized AI platform for K-twelve education, PowerBuddy. PowerBuddy is an AI assistant for everyone in education ecosystem, students, parents, teachers, district administrators and even counselors. As the conversational AI tool that utilizes K-twelve and district data, PowerBaree changes every element of education engagement and enables personalized and highly effective support for everyone. Personalized and highly effective support for everyone.

Speaker 2

For students, PowerBuddy is a personalized digital helper and tutor that knows their curriculum, grades, homework, areas of improvement, learning styles, interests, and more. For instructor, PowerBuddy is a teacher assistant that can help create lesson plans and assessments. Parents can leverage PowerBuddy to inquire about their child's performance and receive personalized resources. And district administrators can use PowerBuddy as a virtual data analyst that can efficiently access district performance information by talking to their data. Powerbody is the AI that will be integrated to each product across our platform.

Speaker 2

So it efficiently and seamlessly brings AI to every customer through the products they already use. On Slide 7, you will see a link to a video that showcases Power Buddy and how it will be used by our platform various personas and use cases. To make it affordable for every district and enable phased adoption, we will be offering PowerBuddy for individual use cases and products like assessments, learning, insights, communication, content creation, college and career readiness, teacher coaching and other use cases with the ultimate goal to launch PowerBuddy for personalized homework that will be available to both districts and individual families to support their child. We have already started monetizing our AI platform. Powerbody for assessment to create test questions and passages using generative AI has been purchased and adopted by districts representing over 50,000 students and we already have a strong pipeline for future opportunities.

Speaker 2

Our recent launch of ContentMap, which utilizes AI to provide a centralized, dynamic and easy to explore repository of digital instruction content for all grades level and for a wide variety of PowerSchool districts and external sources is in the market now with deployments with several districts with over 500,000 students and 1,000,000 of dollars of opportunity in our pipeline. We are further enhancing that solution to leverage generative AI to help build original curriculum, content, class project ideas, explanatory text and sample stories and passages. We're also seeing phenomenal interest in the beta test for other Power Berries, including Power Buddy for Learning, which is integrated into Schoology and Power Buddy for Insights. Many of these Power Buddy solutions are scheduled for launch in the summer and the winter of this year. Our data as a service solution, Connected Intelligence, is the foundation of the safe, secure, customizable and effective usage of our AI.

Speaker 2

We are generating very strong sales and demand for our Connected Intelligence data lake platform for AI. K-twelve Organizations like Epic Charter and Challenger Schools are using Connected Intelligence platform today to create custom AI models for different use cases. We're launching a campaign to allow districts to get ready for AI with connected intelligence and PowerBuddy for custom AI, which allows customers to create their own chatbots with custom datasets such as district handbooks, guides and other resources for parents, communities and internal staff. We are seeing this as a pivotal moment in K-twelve education and for PowerSchool. PowerBuddy has the potential to completely transform education globally and how every persona engages and does their daily function in K-twelve.

Speaker 2

We are moving to an AI first innovation investment philosophy, leveraging personalization and conversational elements in all of our new innovations. Our platform of 20 plus solutions is unmatched in the industry and provides us a unique and large opportunity to integrate our powerful AI 4 ks-twelve education capabilities into each of our products to generate new streams of revenue. It creates many additional monetizable products that add $30 to $50 of TAM per student initially and a lot more as we move into providing integrated content and services to districts and families. We have a significant competitive advantage to achieve this growth and further expand our overall differentiation and business model. All this customer, product expansion and innovation momentum I shared sets PowerSchool up very well for 2024.

Speaker 2

We are confident of our durable financial model to drive double digit revenue growth, consistent margin expansion and free cash flow generation. We continue to be the leader in our category and a best in class vertical SaaS company with a clear path to a Rule of 50 profile. With that, let me pass the call over to Eric to cover the financial performance and guidance. Eric?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Hardeep. We had a great quarter as Hardeep outlined, and we exceeded almost all of our financial objectives, delivering profitability above guidance with revenue growth of 13%. Both revenue and adjusted EBITDA were significantly ahead of our initial guidance that we provided at the start of the year. This performance gives us confidence in our 2024 guidance of double digit revenue growth and continued margin expansion. For the full year 2023, our top line grew 11%, while our adjusted EBITDA margin expanded by 210 basis points to 33.2%.

Speaker 3

We achieved all of this while expanding our international presence, acquiring and successfully integrating School Messenger and Never Skip and investing in game changing innovations that will help make personalized education a reality. A summary of our results are shown on Slide 8. 4th quarter total revenue came in at $182,000,000 up 13% year over year and in line with our guidance range that we provided on our last earnings call. Full year 2023 revenue was $698,000,000 representing a growth rate of 11% for the year. 4th quarter subscription and support revenue grew 16% year over year and accounted for 90% of total revenue in the quarter.

Speaker 3

For the year, subscription and support revenue grew 10% and represented 86% of total revenue. Our services business generated revenue of $15,000,000 in the 4th quarter, flat year over year. For the full year, our services business grew 3% year over year. The moderation in services growth was expected and is due to us accelerating our implementation and driving more efficient deployment cycles, which deliver quicker value to our customers and ensure retention over the long term. Revenue from license and other, which relates mainly to our 3rd party and license revenue, was $3,000,000 in Q4 and was down year over year due to higher licensing activity in the prior year.

Speaker 3

Full year L and R revenue came in at $25,000,000 representing a 48% increase over the same time period last year. This increase was due largely to upfront license fees from Los Angeles Unified School District and hardware revenue associated with our Puerto Rico Department of Education deal. We ended 2023 with an annual recurring revenue balance of $701,000,000 an increase over the prior year. The strong performance was driven by the contribution from School Messenger, new logo ARR growth, which was over 50%, continued cross sell and up sell and our typical contracted price increases. Our net revenue retention rate or NRR came in at 106.7 percent, representing a sequential decline of 50 basis points from Q3.

Speaker 3

This decline was due to the timing of large bookings, specifically the Unified Insights win with the state of Alabama in Q4 of 2022, which rolled off of the trailing 12 month calculation and the movement of the Indiana Department of Education deal from Q4 into January. As we've discussed in prior quarters, large deals continue to be very strategic and important to us. In my operations capacity, given the variability that these large complex arrangements can create, I've been working with our services team to accelerate our implementations, which improve the time to value for our customers and lead to continued cross sell opportunities as well as quicker revenue recognition. Adjusted gross profit for the quarter came in at $129,000,000 with a 70.8% margin, representing a 130 basis point year over year improvement. For the full year, adjusted gross profit reached $491,000,000 or a 70.4 percent margin, representing a 230 basis point improvement over 2022.

Speaker 3

We continue to benefit from greater operational scale and continued process efficiency improvements. Looking at operating expenses. 4th quarter non GAAP research and development expense came in at $24,000,000 representing 13.2% of revenue compared with 13.8% last year. Including capitalized R and D expenses, the total invested in R and D was 18.6 percent of revenue compared with 18.9 percent in the prior year. On a full year basis, non GAAP R and D expense declined 3% to $87,000,000 representing 12.5 percent of revenue compared with 14.4% in the prior year, an improvement of 180 basis points.

Speaker 3

Including capitalized expenses, the total investment in R and D was 18.1 percent of revenue, a 280 basis point improvement over 2022. Non GAAP SG and A expense increased 22% year over year in the Q4 to $45,000,000 representing 24.9 percent of revenue, an increase of 190 basis points year over year, in line with our long term financial framework. The increase was due largely to higher sales and marketing around international expansion and increased North America sales coverage across our expanded product portfolio. Non GAAP SG and A expense for the full year 2023 increased 19% to $171,000,000 Our 4th quarter adjusted EBITDA increased 12% to $59,000,000 representing a 32.6% margin and exceeded the high end of our guidance range by $1,000,000 Full year adjusted EBITDA was up 18% to $232,000,000 representing a 33.2 percent margin, which was 210 basis points over 2022 and 70 basis points higher than the original guidance we provided at the beginning of 2023. Non GAAP net income in the 4th quarter was $0.17 per fully diluted share compared with $0.27 per diluted share in the same time period of the prior year, largely due to higher interest expense and non cash tax expenses.

Speaker 3

Full year 2023 non GAAP EPS was $0.82 compared with $0.85 we earned in 2022. 4th quarter free cash flow was $32,000,000 representing a margin of 17.7%. Full year free cash flow grew 25 percent to $130,000,000 reaching a margin of 18.6 percent, a 2 10 basis point year over year improvement and a record free cash flow margin for the company, driven by improved working capital and lower capitalized product development costs, which helped offset higher interest expenses. Moving to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with $39,000,000 in cash and equivalents impacted by the acquisition of School Messenger.

Speaker 3

Net debt leverage at the end of the year was 3.4 times. We expect our net debt leverage to be in the 2.5 times to 3.0 times range by the end of 2024. This debt level provides us ample opportunity to continue our strategy of acquiring strategic assets that are accretive to our financial profile and help us build an even stronger platform for our customers. As shown on Slide 9, for the full year 2024, we expect total revenue to be in the range of 786,000,000 dollars to $792,000,000 with the midpoint representing a 13% year over year growth rate. This guidance assumes stronger S and S growth, the most strategic part of our revenue.

Speaker 3

License and other revenue will be returning to 2022 levels and our services revenue is expected to be growing in the single digit range. For the full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA, we expect to be between 267,000,000 to $272,000,000 representing a 34.2% margin at the midpoint. For the Q1 of 2024, we expect to deliver total revenue in the range of $183,000,000 to $186,000,000 representing a 16% year over year growth rate at the midpoint. For the Q1 adjusted EBITDA, we expect a range of $56,500,000 to $58,500,000 representing a 31.2% margin at the midpoint. Just as a reminder, a lot of our in person sales and marketing events occur in the Q1 that are intended to drive top line growth throughout the year.

Speaker 3

For modeling purposes, we expect full year 2024 capital expenditures, including capitalized software of approximately $48,000,000 to $52,000,000 and share based compensation expense of approximately $80,000,000 to $84,000,000 Fully diluted shares by the end of the year are expected to be in the range of 203,000,000 to 207,000,000 As we wrap up 2023, we're excited about the business momentum heading into 2024 as it gives us confidence not only in our 2024 guidance, but our pathway to reaching $1,000,000,000 plus in revenue by the end of 2026. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, will you please open up the line for Q and A?

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer Our first question comes from the line of Stephen Sheldon with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Hey, thanks. Nice really nice work here. I want to start on the AI initiatives and just kind of digging in a little bit there. How are the school districts you sort of thinking about leveraging AI at this point? It seems like you guys are going to be rolling out a lot of tools and capabilities, are you sensing any hesitancy from customers at least initially about these initiatives?

Speaker 5

Is it hesitancy mixed with excitement? I know a lot of your AI solutions are in the very early stages of a rollout, but what are you hearing from your school district customers about their comfort levels? And do you think it could take some time here to get some traction?

Speaker 2

Sure. Hi, Stephen. Great question. As you can imagine, there is a lot of interest on AI broadly in the market and K-twelve is not immune to that. In fact, we are seeing a lot of interest from K-twelve districts about it.

Speaker 2

In fact, a survey showed that almost 60% to 70% of the districts are already dabbling with it, whether in certain schools, certain regions or internal within the IT itself. And we're seeing the same interest actually from our customer base. In fact, we have a webinar which has almost had 3,000 attendees who are looking at how to get ready for AI. That includes training, but then adopting tools as well. What we are seeing is especially with the broader need, there's a risk districts are very concerned about where if they try to experiment or they're trying to roll out AI in limited capacity, how do they make sure that their data AI is protected and also the responses are getting you secure.

Speaker 2

But one of the differentiation we are bringing is that we are allowing them to bring their AI to the data rather than taking their data to the AI. What I mean by that is with our data lake platform, with our AI tools, we're actually allowing them to bring the all the OpenAI and other, other models right within their firewall, right within their control, looking at their data to be able to have a mixture that it still protects the privacy and security. So that's one advantage which districts are really excited about and that's why we're seeing a lot of interest on our data lake as well as the whole AI platform itself. 2nd, what we're seeing, Sivan, is a lot of interesting is that they want to roll out of 1 holistic AI platform. You can imagine there's a lot of interest on chat bots in multiple areas from supplemental learning to from college planning or other areas.

Speaker 2

But the problem is that none of those have the full context of what's going on in the classroom. So rather than putting these multiple tools, they're looking for as a platform, which can have full context and allows them to really roll it out in a comprehensive way. And the third, which the fact that we have such a strong presence of our products across the base, we're able to embed the eye into every element of our product. So they can actually interact with the same products now in a much better way, be able to have a conversational personalized experiment experience. And that really is driving a lot of interest, whether that's AI within our Schoology, whether it's in our assessment or whether it's in our parent portal or My PowerSchool and as well as Naviance and other tools.

Speaker 2

So really exciting to see the traction. Even though it's early, we are already seeing customers who have bought it and also tons of interest on our beta that we do expect within this year, we're going to start seeing couple of $1,000,000 of revenue around AI products and almost doubling up from there on.

Speaker 5

Understood. It seems like, yes, you clearly have a very large opportunity there. As a follow-up, great to see the international channel partnership expansion, especially in Latin America. It seems like you have a lot of tips to the spear there now and a good case study in Uruguay. So how are you thinking about the potential to add to your I know you're going to be relying on channel partners mostly now, but the potential to add to your direct sales resources in Latin America, what would you want to see before making a bigger investment in direct go to market?

Speaker 5

And on the product side, is there much you need to do to have the product ready to cater to those markets?

Speaker 2

That's a fair question. So when you look at it from a perspective, we want to make sure that we can expand international but in a profitable way. We already saw great results on our last year, but we almost grew our international ARR by 50%. What's also exciting is these channels we have established, enabling them, partnering with them so that they can actually help us create the broader distribution angle is what allows us to really scale that, but also in a proper way. With that said, to your point, we're also looking at direct field investments in countries like India as well as Middle East, where we're already seeing good traction.

Speaker 2

We might expand that to other regions as we see those regions kind of really driving the demand. But we do expect that this is going to be both a channel effort as well as direct markets where we will have a critical mass.

Speaker 5

All right, great. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Avin.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Brent Thill with Jefferies.

Speaker 6

This is David Musko calling for Brent. I wanted to ask around the guidance that you guys gave. And is there any way that you guys can quantify or give some color around how much of the guide is organic versus inorganic mostly pointed towards the acquisition of Small Messenger? Thanks.

Speaker 7

Yes. Hey, David, it's Eric. So I think it's important as you think about the guidance, we're super excited around the full year, double digit growth that we're seeing certainly on the revenue side. What I prepared in my remarks, hopefully, is helpful for everybody to understand as you think about L and O kind of moderating back to the 2022 levels. So as you all know, 2023, we had some big strategic items in there.

Speaker 7

And then certainly the services business being in the low single digit range from a growth perspective. So you can kind of back into the revenue piece, which is very much in line with our double digit growth. So we're super excited around how we finish the year, how we're set up for 2024. And then obviously, as we mentioned back in our Investor Day in September, we're going

Speaker 3

to do all of this growth, but we're

Speaker 7

going to do it with the mind of continuing to expand margins, which is why we're offering up 100 basis points of expansion. So I think both top line and bottom line should really see the momentum that we have been articulating. And then there is a good component of that continuing to come from the core business, which is very much intact and continuing to drive a lot of the business.

Speaker 2

Got it.

Speaker 6

And then maybe as a follow-up, also want to ask on international. Obviously, I think last year maybe could be best described as the ramp up year with you guys adding a lot of partners. I guess as you think of this year, I know you guys don't guide to international growth, but if you just think about the opportunity this year and how those channel partners that you got last year have ramped, Would just be curious to think to get your views on how you guys are thinking about how international can look this year and specifically the timing of the ramp of new channel partners would be helpful. Thank you so much, guys.

Speaker 2

Sure. So, David, kind of two things. One, I guess, just being off back from Eric's point about it, just to make sure you also notice. I think as Eric was talking about retrading from our Investor Day, we're talking about even if you take the full message out, we are expecting double digit growth into the 2024 as and what we saw in 2023 as well, factoring the whole software growth as we shared about both the subscription as well as we had some large license deals. So we are still feeling very strong on the core growth even outside that acquisition.

Speaker 2

Now the piece, I guess, on the international, as I mentioned, we saw 50% growth in ARR. We're expecting the growth rates to continue in that, in fact, probably even next rate as we look at both organic and inorganic part in the international. The channel partnerships are definitely shaping up well. We have a lot of activity going on in pretty much every part of the region around it. Our goal would be is to focus on not just large deals, but actually focus on how just we create more into international schools, IB schools, as well as the areas where we can start selling not just our courses in Schoology, but also bringing our data products.

Speaker 2

So this is where we would you would start seeing international ultra X-ray on that.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Rich Hilaker with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Hi guys. Can you hear me okay?

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 8

Awesome. Thanks for taking my question and for all the helpful color today. I was wondering to hit on School Messenger once more. I was wondering if you could maybe disclose or maybe you did and I missed it, the contribution to either revenue or ARR in Q4, Because I saw that nice ARR growth number and I was wondering if you could tease that out a little bit more given we're still early in that disclosure period.

Speaker 7

Yes. So, Rich, I think, look, similar to all of the other acquisitions that we've made, we really our strategy is as soon as we acquire these strategic assets and capabilities, we integrate them into the platform rather immediately. So for us to start breaking it apart and kind of looking at a piecemeal, it's not the way we go to market. And if you think about just for us, it's really the value of the platform that our customers get from us. So last year, we had kind of given some color around kind of think about the ARR and the call it the $40,000,000 range around there.

Speaker 7

That probably should be good enough to for you guys to kind of model through what the impact is. And then as we mentioned last year as well, we did make some investments and we are making some School Messenger platform as we're integrating it in with My PowerSchool. So you saw a little bit of that last quarter and then obviously as we get into this quarter, you'll note that the margins were down a little bit. But again, that's very much seasonal with what we expect because we do expect some continued investments in the school messenger platform in Q1 as well as some of our on-site and sales and marketing events occurring in the Q1. But again, I think hopefully that's enough color to give you guys some ways of modeling it.

Speaker 2

Yes. And Rich, just to give you some other data points to our explain, we almost did 100 plus transactions just on SchoolMessenger in Q4, but a lot of them were bundled with either of our SIS or with My Power School or with our attendance intervention. So that's why we are seeing a lot of good exciting stuff. Now we are even more excited about where the second half as we are launching that as fully part of My PowerSchool with 2 way chat all integrated along with PowerBuddy to actually personalize the whole interactions itself. That's where we think that's going to completely drive overall consolidated growth of that entire communication platform.

Speaker 8

Got it. Okay. That's really helpful. Thanks for that added color there. I also wanted to just quickly touch on the bundle opportunity, the persona based cloud bundles.

Speaker 8

I think when we've spoken in the past, you'd mentioned that you've been sort of using this one more product rally cry, right, as you went to market and customers were increasingly aware of these bundles. So I'm wondering, are you seeing traction yet? Have you tweaked anything in the sales organization or incentives in any way as we think about those potentially contributing more and more in 2024 and beyond? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Great question. As you know, we almost have now 20 plus products, right? Best in class products satisfying a lot of different mission critical elements of the school district. But one of the things we were trying to figure out is that rather than customers having to think about 1 plus product, how do we go after personas and allow them to buy multiple products, allow them to kind of fully have automation across all their critical elements. So we launched these 6 clouds plus different platform components like data as well as comms and AI.

Speaker 2

And what we're seeing is now pretty much every element of our GTM from our collateral to our go to market has been now aligned to these clouds. So you would actually have student cloud for going with the student services, personalized learning cloud for the instruction. You've got the CCLR for the guidance counselors or MTSS for the account the whole student success cloud for the accountability and similarly educator effectiveness and finance cloud. So what has allowed us is to now is really cross sell more effectively within clouds, make it simpler for our customers to buy products so they can buy more additional products together as well as also being able to have better relationship with each of the personas. And that strategy is working well.

Speaker 2

So in fact, pretty much now every element of our sales actually leverages the cloud go to market.

Speaker 7

Yes. I think, Rich, the one thing I would say, just like Hardeep said, if you think about the cloud bundles, it's just really kind of focused the team in terms of the way they go to market to each persona, right? So it's a much more effective and efficient go to market motion.

Speaker 8

Got it. Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Saket Kalia with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 9

Okay, great. Hey guys, thanks

Speaker 4

for taking my questions here. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2

Thanks.

Speaker 9

Hardeep, maybe just

Speaker 4

to start with you, congrats on the state level contract with Indiana. You've actually had several state level deals or wins like this in recent quarters. And so maybe a quick question there is, what product families are these deals sort of gravitating towards? And just to clarify, that's a deal that will contribute to Q1 ARR. That actually did not help here in Q4.

Speaker 4

Is that right?

Speaker 2

Yes, that is right. That did not help Q4. In fact, I think as we've talked about some of the services elements, so it also had a little bit of impact on our Q4. But even though we have talked about these strategic deals have the phenomenal opportunity here, as you mentioned, is you look at the 9 or 10 quarters, we've got significant state opportunities pretty much in every quarter. And even our pipeline actually looks pretty exciting.

Speaker 2

You actually took from a perspective, we see this as a broad range. This was a special deal. Florida, what we did last quarter was around the talent recruitment. We've seen a lot of analytics and trust. We've also done Sys opportunity in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2

We do see these large deals to be very strategic because not only it proves that we are best in class, allows us to replicate that not just with the state, but large districts and other value. In fact, one of our big focus is to as we focus on a lot of strategic deals over the last year, we're going to start really gearing up our sales expansion, so we can start bringing that same capabilities to enterprise and inside. In fact, just in the last 12 months, we have done almost close to 3 deals, which are $10,000,000 plus. It just shows you that kind of traction we have not seen before. So these are very exciting opportunities, but they do have, to your point, some revenue and the implications which move around, but ARR of the Indiana is going to come in Q1.

Speaker 4

Got it. That's super helpful. Eric, maybe for you, I

Speaker 6

was wondering if you could just dig a

Speaker 4

little bit deeper into the services delivery aspect that you touched on in your prepared remarks. I mean, it sounds like you're delivering just faster time to value for the customer. And I think that's coming through in sort of the services revenue guide for next year. Maybe the question is what's driving maybe that new approach with services and how do you think about that services business kind of longer term? Does that make sense?

Speaker 7

It does. It does. So I think many of you know I've actually taken responsibility for the services business for about a year now. One of the things that we did was we actually restructured a lot of the work packages and the teams that were doing the work. So what you're seeing is increased productivity, you're seeing a lot more of the same type activities being done by groups of people versus spread across many teams.

Speaker 7

So the result of that is actually quicker operational velocity, right? It's getting the customer implemented quicker and certainly time to value as well as it's enabling us to actually recognize the revenue quicker. The implication of that, right, is obviously we're getting much more efficient, but I would also encourage you to take a look at our margins. Our margins are up in 2023 versus 2022 and a lot of that really has to do with the efficiency of how we've reorganized a lot of these teams. So I'm super proud of the work that the team is doing And look, they're going to continue to be very strategic to our customers because they are what enables our customers to get the most value out of the technology.

Speaker 7

So it's going to continue to be a big part of the value proposition. And we're going to continue to focus on how fast we can get a lot of the products in. And I think a good example of this was when we did Puerto Rico. I mean, we did one of the largest SIS implementation across 270 plus 1,000 students in like 6.5 months, which has never been done before. And the team did it with a a huge amount of quality in there too.

Speaker 7

So stay tuned. So yes, you'll see less you won't see the revenue growth as high, but again, you'll see continued strong margins as well as we'll get the revenue recognition quicker and that obviously helps in the subscription side as well.

Speaker 4

Seems like a nice trade off. Thanks very much. Appreciate it.

Speaker 10

Thanks, Saket.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Peterson with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 11

Hi, gentlemen. Thanks for taking the question. So I just want to hit on the Sys market a little bit. I know that the big part of the product portfolio, love to understand maybe how that performed through 2023? And how does the pipeline of SIFT deals look as we head into 2024?

Speaker 2

Sure, Brian. Again, I think as you said, SIS is very strategic, right? We have not only its biggest part of our business, it's also the most strategic when it comes to school district, allows us to cross sell, especially as we are talking about the AI platform and data platform. Having those integration definitely gives us even a bigger leadership opportunity to be able to do that. Since actually when you look at the Store and Cloud, it actually grew double digit for us in 2023, and we are expecting that to continue to do that into 2024 as well.

Speaker 2

Their pipeline looks pretty healthy both in U. S. As well as international.

Speaker 11

That's great to hear. And I just maybe a separate question on the families monetization. I know you have an embedded opportunity given your presence in all the school districts. But what kind of sales and marketing effort are you guys thinking about potentially making as you kind of broaden the monetization opportunity? Any perspective there?

Speaker 11

Thanks, guys.

Speaker 2

Excellent question, Brian. So as we've talked about with the Powerbody, right, so imagine Powerbody having the ability in school districts to be able to roll out for parent engagement, for student engagement and driving any help they need on homework, for teachers to be able to create lesson plans for counselors and students to be able to understand better on the career and college part. It's a very pervasive AI system which allows us to not only support the school district, but not take that one level right within the family's engagement itself and providing families with additional support that they are interested in. So there is a strong opportunity for us to even commercialize that into a whole B2C with the families. Our first focus is again on the districts.

Speaker 2

That's where as we talked about, poverty is almost adding close to $2,000,000,000 of TAM just within our base. But as we take it to the B2C opportunity and also being able to think about us like a Netflix of education, where we can provide the right content and services and tools right within our AI system to the families and allows us to kind of go after even $100 to $200 per store in TAM in a consumer world. So that is what really gets us assigning to almost $100,000,000,000 TAM.

Operator

Question comes from the line of Ryan McDonald with Needham and Company. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 9

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. Hardeep, maybe first for you. You talked about in your prepared remarks about the AI and K-twelve creating this incremental $30 to $50 of TAM per student. Can you talk about today what's how much of that $30 to $50 are you going to market with today in terms of driving incremental sales? And then how should we think about what part of the budget that incremental $30 to $50 of TAM per student comes from districts today?

Speaker 9

Is it sort of new pockets of budget potentially? Or what would you, I guess, be replacing to sort of unlock this incremental opportunity over time? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Sure. When you look at from The products we've already launched, as I shared in my prepared remarks, was like our data lake with the AI platform, our part buddy for assessment, so teachers can create quizzes and everything as well as our content map, which we are further enhancing with the ability to even create curriculum and additional content. So think about that could be somewhere in about a range of $8 to $10 is what we are already monetizing and selling to our customers now. By end of this year, we expect this to almost grow to $30 to $50 depending upon the size of the volume of the contracts by number of students. So we are trying to monetize all the elements.

Speaker 2

Now the reason we are trying to do this in a chance is that even though it's the same platform, it has the full context of the entire student. We are aligned these 6 to be able to adopt these things in a in a chunk. So that way, they don't feel a big, you're having to have a big secure a big budget. Compare that to a Conmigo or others where they might have to spend $30, $50 right to be able to take help on that. So that's kind of our differentiation that we can easily embed them into the tools they are using, adopt it in chunks, but still have the benefit of the full platform.

Speaker 2

And from a budget perspective, we see this both within the IT budget because they're already providing data elements and everything to enable the different elements, but more so from the fact that this helps take all the investments they are doing on tutoring, on content, on interventions and make it more surgical, so they can actually reach more students and help them on the needs what they have, as well as being able to engage with parents and support teachers better.

Speaker 9

Super helpful color there. Maybe just piggybacking off of that, you mentioned sort of the tutoring opportunity inherent with it. As you look at going to market and sort of in the early days this year, is there an ability to access some of the remaining pools of the ESSER funding with maybe some of the Power Buddy applications or use cases this year to maybe pull in some of that sort of last or final spend before it needs to be allocated? And then just on ESSER funding generally, I know it doesn't obviously impact the business directly too much, but are you seeing any early days of changes in prioritization within the districts and schools for the upcoming selling season, given the fact that they know that they need to sort of prioritize and allocate that pool of spend first before maybe paying closer attention to sort of the core budget? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. I think there's a mix of everything what you're saying. But from our perspective, as we you know, that our solutions are basically recurring subscription base. So they have to secure the dollars for them from their normal budget, right? They typically don't use the SR.

Speaker 2

But with that said, as we have said, sometimes if on an implementation, they might use a one time element. So we're not seeing that to be any major change in our buying patterns. We do see that there is a behavior change within districts around what they need to spend on from an asset perspective those elements to be prioritized and other. You're absolutely right. Some of the pieces we are selling on our data and Cloud Buddy does allow us to be more allow them to spend these dollars more surgically.

Speaker 2

So from that perspective, we do see a role to play in and helping these districts spend their asset dollar better. And especially with our overview acquisition, we are also allowing them to manage their ongoing budgets better and be able to tie that to the ROI as well. So that's why we do help these districts on that budgeting and planning.

Speaker 5

Thanks again for the color.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Koji Ikeda with Bank of Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 12

Yes. Hey guys, thanks for so much for taking the questions. I wanted to ask You talked about consistency in the results of the IPO meeting and beating your guide. And I do appreciate that consistency, but really thinking more about the beat side on the revenue. It seems at times deal sizes or deal cycles and NRR can be volatile, which can put a damper on upside potential.

Speaker 12

Just thinking about the EdTech vertical, I was under the assumption that deal cycles could be a bit more predictable and seasonal within this category. But maybe thinking about your expanding product offerings, larger deal sizes and going more international, it should require us to think about the predictability a little bit differently. So can you help us understand some of

Speaker 2

the puts and takes there, please? Yes.

Speaker 7

Suikodhi, it's Eric. So I think and we've had several large deals, whether it's LAUSD, whether it's Puerto Rico and now Indiana as an example, right? One of the things we've consistently said is what we're not going to do is we're not going to try to artificially time a deal and just get it into a particular quarter, right? Because a lot of times when you do that, it means you're going to be doing some sort of a natural pricing and discounting, etcetera. So these deals are large, they're strategic.

Speaker 7

And when we've got line of sight to a large deal, right, it's just a matter of sometimes there's a lot of processes on the customer side, especially when you're talking about some of these state deals, they can have up to 30 different approvals required there. A lot of that which is out of our hands in terms of the timing of it, Indiana is a perfect one, right? I mean We were very optimistic that it was going to close in Q4, but then as you kind of see as it progresses through the approval cycle, sometimes the approvals take a little bit longer than anticipated. We knew we had the deal. It's just a matter of timing.

Speaker 7

So what I would just say is, as we've said in the past, really kind of focus from our standpoint on the full year and what we're committing to from a full year perspective. And look, when there is deal variability, we're obviously going to articulate it and articulate the impact to it. I think it's also important to kind of think about, as you think around something like Indiana, the impact of that had that closed in Q4, right, our net revenue retention would have been 100 basis points higher than where it ended up being. So it would have actually shown a 50 basis point sequential improvement versus going down by 50 basis points. So again, it just kind of gives you the magnitude that it will have on the metrics.

Speaker 7

And what Hardeep and I have committed to is being very transparent around some of the ins and outs of these deals. But I mean, again, we don't want to get into a spot where we're just trying to force fit a deal into a particular quarter. It's not good for the business in terms of trying to do that from a discounting standpoint.

Speaker 12

Got it, Eric. That's super helpful. And just one follow-up here. 14 channel partners to finish the year ahead of the goal of 12. Is 14 enough to hit your 2024 revenue targets?

Speaker 12

Or should we think about 14 expanding to a certain level to reach the revenue targets? And then there

Speaker 7

is is there some way

Speaker 12

to think about maybe a stretch goal for partners or the number of partners that could be available for PowerSchool to partner with over the next several years?

Speaker 2

It's a fair question, Koji. And we're not putting an artificial number to it. So it's more actually driven by how good of a coverage in the markets where we have already product solutions in the target and do they have the right access and ability to be able to sell that. So it's more about coverage than the number. There will be more partners absolutely, but at the same time, it's also the quality of the partners.

Speaker 2

We are not going with the approach of let's have 100, 200 partners and then see if anybody sells. We could we are investing these partners, we are driving them to have the growth and we believe that we will we can continue to providing the guidance as we've given it that this should become a material business in the next few years.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2

Thanks, RJ.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Joe Varek with Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 10

Great. Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just one clarification to start and it's on the core organic performance and subscription and support and something I think Hardeep you actually mentioned at a prior answer. So just to be clear, in FY 2024 and the guidance you've provided, that does entail organic growth in the double digits and that rate of growth in 2024 is actually going to be stronger than where FY2023 finished.

Speaker 10

Is that all an accurate statement?

Speaker 7

Yes, it's absolutely accurate. And Joe, the thing that I think is also important is we've kind of talked about LAUSD being a big strategic deal, right? If you were to look at the subscription and support and then also kind of account for what we're calling our strategic software activity, that being a very strategic software transaction, we were also in the low double digit growth for 2023. So yes, absolutely. And you see that pick up even a little bit more as we get into 2024.

Speaker 10

Okay. That's great. Thank you. This next question is maybe going to be guilty of apples and oranges analysis, but I'll give it a try. So at your Investor Day, I think the comment was made that AI products in terms of the revenue potential to PowerSchool, that could approach maybe $100,000,000 or so in the midterm horizon.

Speaker 10

Today, you're talking about a $2,000,000,000 TAM associated with these products. Obviously, when I think about your product suites, they operate at very high market share, much higher than the simple math here would be, maybe a 5% share of the TAM as it's being defined. I guess, what's your reaction to that analysis? And are you maybe just being pragmatic and you don't want to get ahead of yourself because it is super early? Or is there some embedded observation about maybe the uptake of AI products and the K-twelve setting you're trying to factor in?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think you're right. We are trying to be pragmatic, make sure that we are able to get the early what we're seeing early interest. Don't let it kind of get us ahead of ourselves. We do want to kind of launch all these power buddies, be able to start showing the value, which we believe is tremendous in our as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, the in k 12, especially think about student time, teachers' time, principal times, parents' time, it's so valuable.

Speaker 2

And these AI tools, the conversational and personalized element, allowing them to engage proactively with the right persona changes everything in education of how these products are built, how all of our products are integrated and how they are actually communicating. And that's why you see such a phenomenal big opportunity here and we our districts see this, our persona see it and we do expect this to be big. This is the whole reason why we are if you think about from a profitability compared to our competitors, we've been investing significantly in R and D, almost with our capitalized R and D to almost $40,000,000 to $50,000,000 and that has been broadly around the data and AI platform, which allows us to really invest in kind of transformation element in personalization that we have been counting on. And we now see that actually start getting real and being able to start monetizing that.

Speaker 10

That's great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our last question comes from the line of Gabriela Borges with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 13

Hi, this is Callie Valente on for Gabriela. First one for me is, I wanted to follow-up on what you said before and kind of the idea of being the Netflix of Education. If we think about the content side of that, how do you think about partnering with versus acquiring an asset potentially on that content side of things?

Speaker 2

Hi, Kelly. You're absolutely right. Both from a just kind of think about a Netflix model or a Prime or a HBO model. It's both about having partnerships with a lot of strategic content providers being able to provide the right content and services within the context. So imagine based on a kid's need, you're providing the right content which has the most efficacy to support that child, as well as being able to provide services like tutoring targeted to that child's need because we have we are we have the system of engagement with them, right?

Speaker 2

We have the intelligence and context. So this is both partnership as well as in some cases acquisitions, which will allow us to kind of have those more targeted content as well.

Speaker 13

That makes sense. Thank you. And second one for me is you kind of called out a very impressive new logo like ARR growth number. Curious like what products are you seeing drive new logo growth the most? Is that just SIS?

Speaker 13

Or are you seeing some of the data products via common land? And then also just any trends you would call out in new logos in international markets versus in the core North America market?

Speaker 2

Pretty balanced in terms of most of our products. I think the same products we've talked about, which are seeing very good growth. Data products, of course, the student, we're selling data products even when they're not of our customers. We're also seeing, again, student cloud to be continues to do very well. Talent products are being doing exceptionally well.

Speaker 2

And even things like our attendance intervention and all that is actually creating new logo opportunities. And then it's very reflective with our market share, but nip and international being little higher on the new logos as well.

Speaker 13

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Great. Thanks, Hilli.

Operator

That concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to hand it back to Hardeep Gulati for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, everyone. I appreciate everybody staying for this earnings call. As Eric and I shared, this has been a very exciting quarter as well as an exciting year. Not only we record double digit growth, we are also guiding to a double digit growth, which just shows you the robustness of this business model as well as our platform. And all the differentiations in terms of being the most comprehensive platform, both in terms of being able to sell to different needs of the customer to be able to have the diversified platform.

Speaker 2

So it provides us stability, being able to secure larger deals as well as being able to use our innovation to continue performing with the double digit growth, both within U. S. As well as internationally is what's exciting about our business and we appreciate everybody's support and looking forward to an exciting journey for. Thank you everyone.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.

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