Federal Signal Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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February 27, 2024

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Federal Signal Corporation 4th Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Felix Boschian, Vice President, Corporate Strategy and Investor Relations for Federal Signal.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to Federal Signal's 4th quarter 2023 conference call. I'm Felix Boschin, the company's Vice President of Corporate Strategy and Investor Relations. Also with me on the call today is Jennifer Sherman, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Ian Hudson, our Chief Financial Officer. We will refer to some presentation slides today as well as to the earnings release, which we issued this morning. The slides can be followed online by going to our website federalsignal.com, clicking on the investor call icons and signing into the webcast.

Speaker 1

We've also posted the slide presentation and the earnings release under the Investor tab on our website. Before I turn the call over to Ian, I'd like to remind you that some of our comments made today may contain forward looking statements that are subject to the Safe Harbor language found in today's news release and in Federal Signal's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents are available on our website. Our presentation also contains some measures that are not in accordance with U. S.

Speaker 1

Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. In our earnings release and filings, we reconcile these non GAAP measures to GAAP measures. In addition, we will file our Form 10 ks later today. Ian will start today with more detail on our Q4 and full year financial results. Jennifer will then provide her perspective on our performance and update on our multi year strategic initiatives and go over our outlook for 2024 before we open the line for any questions.

Speaker 1

With that, I would now like

Speaker 2

to turn the call over to Ian. Thank you, Felix. Our financial results for the Q4 and full year of 2023 are provided in today's earnings release. Before I talk about the Q4, let me highlight some of our full year consolidated results for 2023. Net sales for the year were approximately $1,720,000,000 a record high for the company and an increase of $288,000,000 or 20% compared to the prior year.

Speaker 2

Organic sales growth for the year was $220,000,000 or 15%. Operating income for the year was $224,500,000 an increase of $63,700,000 or 40% from the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA for the year was $286,000,000 up $71,000,000 or 33% compared to the prior year. That translates to an adjusted EBITDA margin of 16.6% this year, up 160 basis points from last year. GAAP earnings for the year equated to 2.56 dollars per share, up $0.59 per share or 30% from the prior year.

Speaker 2

On an adjusted basis, we reported full year earnings of $2.58 per share, a year over year increase of $0.62 per share or 32%. Orders for the year were $1,870,000,000 another company record and an increase of $178,000,000 or 11% from the prior year. With a strong momentum in customer demand, consolidated backlog at the end of the year was at an all time high level of $1,030,000,000 an increase of $146,000,000 or 17% from last year. For the rest of my comments, I will focus mostly on comparisons of the Q4 of 2023 to the Q4 of 2022. Consolidated net sales for the quarter were $448,000,000 an increase of $57,000,000 or 15%.

Speaker 2

Organic sales growth for the quarter was $42,000,000 or 11%. Consolidated operating income in Q4 this year was $63,100,000 up $16,500,000 or 35% compared to Q4 last year. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $77,500,000 an increase of $16,400,000 or 27%. That translates to a margin of 17.3 percent, an increase of 170 basis points from Q4 last year. GAAP EPS for the quarter was $0.75 per share, up $0.18 per share or 32% from Q4 last year.

Speaker 2

On an adjusted basis, EPS for Q4 this year was 0 point 7 $4 per share, a year over year increase of 0 point 17 dollars per share or 30%. Orders in Q4 this year were $465,000,000 up $21,000,000 or 4.5%. In terms of our 4th quarter group results, ESG sales were $373,000,000 an increase of $48,000,000 or 15% compared to Q4 last year. ESG's adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $73,300,000 up $15,700,000 or 27 percent. That translates to an adjusted EBITDA margin of 19.6% in Q4 this year, up 190 basis points from Q4 last year.

Speaker 2

SSG's 4th quarter sales were $75,000,000 this year, up $9,000,000 or 14%. SSG's adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $16,000,000 up $2,800,000 or 21% from Q4 last year. SSG's adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was 21.2%, above the high end of its target range and up 130 basis points from Q4 last year. Corporate operating expenses in Q4 this year were $10,000,000 compared to $10,200,000 in Q4 last year. Turning now to the consolidated statement of operations, where the increase in sales contributed to a $22,800,000 improvement in gross profit.

Speaker 2

Consolidated gross margin for the quarter was 26.6 percent, up 190 basis points compared to Q4 last year. As a percentage of sales, our selling, engineering, general and administrative expenses for the quarter were up 30 basis points from Q4 last year. During the Q4 of this year, we recognized a $1,600,000 benefit from acquisition related activities compared to $500,000 of expense in Q4 last year with the majority of the year over year change driven by a change in the fair value of contingent consideration associated with acquisitions. Other items affecting the quarterly results include a $500,000 increase in amortization expense, a $100,000 increase in other expense and a $100,000 reduction in interest expense. Income tax expense for the quarter was $12,100,000 an increase of $4,700,000 from Q4 last year, with the year over year change largely due to higher pretax income levels and a $700,000 reduction in discrete tax benefits recognized in the current year quarter in comparison to the prior year quarter.

Speaker 2

Including discrete tax benefits, our effective tax rate for full year 2023 was 22.5%. For 2024, we currently expect a tax rate of between 25% 26%, excluding any discrete tax benefits. On an overall GAAP basis, we therefore earned $0.75 per share in Q4 this year compared with $0.57 per share in Q4 last year. To facilitate earnings comparisons, we typically adjust our GAAP earnings per share for unusual items recorded in the current or prior year quarters. In the current year quarter, we made adjustments to GAAP earnings per share to exclude acquisition related benefits and purchase accounting expense effects.

Speaker 2

On this basis, our adjusted earnings in Q4 this year was $0.74 per share compared with $0.57 per share in Q4 last year. Looking now at cash flow, where we generated $103,000,000 of cash from operations during the quarter, an increase of $64,000,000 or 162 percent from Q4 last year, with the increase primarily due to working capital improvements and higher net income. For the full year, our operating cash generations totaled $194,000,000 an increase of $123,000,000 or 171% compared to last year. With the improved cash flow, we paid down approximately $70,000,000 of debt during the quarter, ending the year with $238,000,000 of net debt and availability under our credit facility of $493,000,000 Our current net debt leverage ratio remains low. With our financial position remaining strong, we have significant flexibility to invest in organic growth initiatives, pursue strategic acquisitions and return cash to stockholders through dividends and opportunistic share repurchases.

Speaker 2

On that note, we paid dividends of $6,100,000 during the quarter, reflecting a dividend of $0.10 per share, and we recently announced that we are increasing the dividend by 20% to $0.12 per share in the Q1 of 2024. We also funded $1,200,000 of share repurchases during the quarter. That concludes my comments, and I would like to turn the call over to Jennifer.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Ian. Overall, our 4th quarter results represent an exceptional finish to a record year. Outstanding execution by both groups contributed to the strong Q4 results, which included record net sales and adjusted EPS and an all time high backlog. We are also pleased to report that EBITDA margins expanded 170 basis points to 17.3% in the quarter and were slightly above the midpoint of our recently raised target margin range of 14% to 20%. Looking ahead, we remain optimistic about further margin expansion opportunities into 2024 and beyond, driven by a combination of internal efficiency initiatives currently underway, our continued focus on organic growth, planned production increases and value added M and A.

Speaker 3

Within our Environmental Solutions Group an improving supply chain supported higher production levels and with increased sales volumes contributed contributions from our recent acquisitions, robust aftermarket demand and strong price realization, we were able to deliver a 15% year over year net sales increase and a 27% increase in adjusted EBITDA compared to last year. Despite continued intermittent supply chain issues, we are encouraged by ongoing production improvements across our business units with 4th quarter production at our 2 largest ESG facilities up a combined 11% year over year and up 6% compared to Q3. We are particularly pleased about the sequential improvement in production compared to Q3 and continue to believe that our large scale capacity expansions completed in recent years, including our 40% capacity expansion at our Bactere, Truvac, Guzzler facility in Streator, Illinois position us well to absorb incremental volumes as supply chains continue to improve. Our aftermarket team had another standout quarter with revenues up 24% over last year with notable strength in used equipment and parts sales. Recall, our acquisition of Joe Johnson Equipment in 2016 marks the onset of a targeted strategy to expand our aftermarket business and we believe we are starting to reap some of the multiyear benefits associated with that strategic decision.

Speaker 3

The addition of our rental and used equipment offerings have allowed our teams to target entirely new cohorts of customers for our flagship sewer cleaners, safe digging and street sweeper offerings. The opportunity of purchasing our used equipment at a lower price is an important additional procurement option for industrial contractors in this higher interest rate environment, exemplified by the $12,000,000 year over year increase in used equipment sales in Q4. At the same time, we expanded our parts and service network and in deepening our relationship with existing customers throughout the lifecycle of our equipment. In aggregate, aftermarket represented 27% of ESG revenue in Q4 compared to 25% last year. In addition to strong organic growth, our recent acquisitions also contributed with Trackless, our most recent acquisition continuing its strong start.

Speaker 3

Acquisitions added approximately $15,000,000 to our top line during the quarter. Our Safety and Security Systems Group again delivered impressive results during the quarter with 14% top line growth and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 21.2%, slightly above the high end of our new SSG margin target range and 130 basis point improvement compared to last year. Top line strength was broad based across our SSG businesses throughout 2023 with sales of public safety equipment, industrial signaling equipment and warning systems each up organically by more than 15% this year. As we have indicated previously, we still expect the addition of a third printed circuit board line to yield further benefits into this year through a combination of cost savings, reduced reliance on offshore suppliers and increased production volumes of public safety equipment. Lastly, we are particularly pleased with our cash conversion in the quarter having generated $103,000,000 of cash from operations, up 162% from last year.

Speaker 3

On an annual basis, we continue to target 100% cash conversion levels, which when coupled with a more normalized capital expenditures in the $35,000,000 to $40,000,000 range per year should result in substantial free cash flow generation in 2024 and beyond. Shifting now to current market conditions. Demand for our products remains with 4th quarter order intake of $465,000,000 representing a 5% increase compared to last year. We believe our targeted end market diversification efforts are yielding order strength across both our publicly funded and industrial end market. Specifically, in the Q4, public revenue orders were up mid single digits over last year led by a year over year increase in domestic street sweeper orders.

Speaker 3

Industrial orders were up low single digits year over year, primarily led by an increase in orders for dump truck bodies and road marking equipment orders, somewhat offset by lower safe digging truck orders. Looking ahead, we see several internal and external tailwinds continuing to positively impact demand for our products and services. On the internal front, we remain energized by the market reception of our new product development initiatives such as our Micro Plus lighting product our SSG segment, our recently introduced Elgin Regen X Street Sweeper and our growing aftermarket offerings. I'm also pleased to announce that Doctor. Scott Robow has rejoined the company as our Chief Technology Officer in January.

Speaker 3

At Federal Signal, Scott previously drove the process that resulted in an acceleration of our safe digging product offerings. Scott also brings additional expertise in new product development for electric and autonomous solutions. Externally, we expect to continue to see benefits from the American Rescue Plan Act in our publicly funded markets, which in 2021 earmarked $350,000,000,000 for state, local and territorial governments for a variety of purposes, including the maintenance of essential infrastructure such as sewer systems and streets. Similarly, we believe the $550,000,000,000 bipartisan infrastructure bill to be a substantial opportunity for many of our federal signal products and aftermarket offerings as projects begin to come online in the upcoming years. Although we don't believe the infrastructure bill will have a meaningful impact on our profits in 2024, we are beginning to see examples of the use of our products in early infrastructure projects.

Speaker 3

These projects include the Atlanta Hartsfield International Airport expansion as well as a lead replacement project in Upstate New York and include the use of our street sweeping and safe digging product offerings. In short, even despite our consistent production increases throughout 2023, lead times for certain products remain extended given the strength in new order trends. As such, we remain focused on increasing production levels to build more trucks as we aim to reduce current backlog and lead times while continuing to maintain a healthy order intake. Turning to 2024, I am passionate about further improving and building on the successful strategies we have put in place since 2016. We remain committed to our strategic building blocks of operational excellence, organic growth and value added M and A, all of which would represent the foundation on which we raised our through cycle EBITDA margin targets on our last earnings call.

Speaker 3

After codifying our Federal Signal operating system in 2023, which includes our eightytwenty programs and lean initiatives, we are planning a phased rollout across our businesses in 2024. The goal of this continuous improvement initiative is to drive incremental efficiency gains, cost savings and process simplification across the organization. We believe this renewed initiative will provide multiyear benefits to shareholders and customers in the form of reduced lead times and cost savings. Secondly, our team remains laser focused on executing on our organic growth and new product development pipeline, which includes several electrification projects across the family of federal signal vehicle. Orders for our electric sweepers reached a new high point in Q4 and we expect to deliver all of our 2023 electric sweeper orders this year.

Speaker 3

We are also excited about a host of other electrification projects across the company and will exhibit several of our dump truck body products mounted on electric chassis at the upcoming NTEA Work Truck Show in Indianapolis. In recent weeks, I had the opportunity to attend 2 other major trade shows, both of which confirmed our view of strong underlying demand for federal signal products. At the WET show in Indianapolis, we showcased a range of vacuum truck products including our sewer cleaners, Guzzler industrial vacuum trucks and safe digging equipment. Our long term outlook on the hydro excavation market remains unchanged. We continue to believe that safe digging remains a critical organic growth driver for Federal Signal as adoption and use cases proliferate across North America.

Speaker 3

At the ASSA trade show in San Diego, the combined MRL and Blasters booth generated substantial customer interest for our road marking and water blasting solutions. In addition to organic growth, we see an array of external levers including active M and A pipeline and opportunities to drive future efficiency gains from already completed acquisitions including TowHawk, Blasters and Trackless. Across all of our recently completed acquisitions, we strive to optimize distribution, aftermarket parts capture and operational cost reduction initiatives as we fully integrate these businesses into the broader Federal Signal organization. Our latest acquisition track list is off to a fantastic start in year 1. To size some of the progress made since the acquisition closed, we are proud to announce that Trackless has grown sales by over 30% in 2023 compared to 2022, having only been under Federal Signal's ownership since April of 2023.

Speaker 3

Importantly, the integration of trackless products across our direct sales channel was critical in unlocking net sales growth with sales of Trackless products through our channel more than doubling compared to last year. The deeper integration between our existing municipal distribution network and Trackless is expected to allow Trackless products to reach entirely new customer cohorts and geographies. Into 2024, we plan to further integrate Trackless into our aftermarket platform by scaling rental opportunities, initiative we believe should yield incremental earning growth in coming years. While we believe Trackless remains in the early stages of a multiyear growth opportunity, we thought it proved an excellent example of the value we are able to extract after completing acquisitions and integrating businesses into our federal signal family. For most acquisition, key synergies typically span both revenue and cost with major opportunities across distribution, aftermarket optimization and material cost reduction initiatives.

Speaker 3

Lastly, as our teams continue to navigate an improving but still fluid supply chain backdrop, we believe we have ample capacity to further scale our output having completed major facility expansions in recent years. Turning now to our outlook. Conditions in our end markets remain healthy and with ongoing execution against our strategic initiatives and opportunities to drive improved efficiencies, we are confident that we will have another record year in 2024. For the full year, we are expecting net sales of between 1,850,000,000 $1,900,000,000 double digit improvement in pre tax earnings and EBITDA margin performance in the upper half of our new target range. We also currently expect to report adjusted EPS of between $2.85 $3.05 per share for the year, which would represent a year over year increase of between 10% 18% and the highest EPS level in the company's history.

Speaker 3

Our outlook does not include an anticipated tax benefit of approximately $14,000,000 that we expect to realize in Q1 and also assumes continued improvement in production output and a robust aftermarket activity in Q2 through Q4. Lastly, although seasonal effects typically result in Q1 earnings being lower than subsequent quarters given less aftermarket revenue capture and more production slots earmarked for our internal rental fleet, we are expecting Q1 to represent between 19% 20% of our full year earnings. In closing, I want to express my profound thanks to all of our employees, suppliers and stakeholders for a tremendous 2023. With an active M and A pipeline, ongoing investment in new product development, available capacity, good access to skilled labor and anticipated multiyear tailwinds from infrastructure legislation, our businesses are well positioned for long term sustainable growth. With that, we are ready to open the line for questions.

Speaker 3

Operator? Thank

Operator

Our first question comes from the line of Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 3

Good morning, Steve.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning. This is Jacob Moore on for Steve Barger. Thanks for taking the questions.

Speaker 3

Absolutely.

Speaker 4

First one, backlog was up again for this 12th straight quarter and it's still looking very strong. My question is how much of that backlog is set for delivery in 2024? How much additional unbooked capacity do you think you have in 2024? And what kind of chassis availability headwinds are you baking into your assumptions, if any?

Speaker 3

Yes. So it really depends on the business. As I talked about in my prepared remarks, some of our lead times are longer than we would like. And we have initiatives in place, our Build More Trucks initiative to reduce those lead times. And we are making progress in some areas, notably safe digging, which is we talked about repeatedly an important growth area for the company.

Speaker 3

With respect to chassis availability, we are in pretty good shape for Class 8 chassis, which support the vast majority of our businesses. We do have some pockets of areas, for example, the Class 7 chassis for our Street Sweeper business, we're continuing to monitor that. And with respect to Class 5 chassis, for a very small percentage of our dump truck business, They're flat year over year. And as we move forward, we are hopeful that the second half of the year, we will see more of those Class 5 and Class 7 chassis. But overall, we're in pretty good shape.

Speaker 3

And then I would conclude with the capacity expansions that we've invested in particularly at Factor and some of our dump truck businesses, we're very well positioned with improving supply chain conditions to be able to leverage those investments.

Speaker 4

Understood. That's helpful. Thank you. And my second question is how much of your 2023 growth would you attribute to price versus volume? And what sort of expectations are embedded in your roughly 10% growth guidance for 2024?

Speaker 2

Yes. So as we think about the guide for 2024, I think we're implying 7% to 10% growth is Pretty much all of that is on the OpEx organic. And I would say price is about 2.5%, 3% of that. In 2023, it was between 3% 4% was the price impact on the top line.

Speaker 4

Got it. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

Thanks Jacob. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Moore with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Good morning, guys. Congrats on 2 great years. All right. So we've asked this kind of multiple ways. But clearly, Jennifer, you said that you still don't expect much in the way of in 2024 from some of the infrastructure bills.

Speaker 5

But I'm trying to look at it from the 3 to 5 year perspective. Is it reasonable to think that that could these bills could add a couple of points to annual revenue growth over timeframe? Just curious kind of how you guys look at that?

Speaker 3

Yes, absolutely. You are correct that we're not expecting a lot in 2024. I think Transportation Secretary, Buttigieg had a pretty good quote about it. He said one way to think about it is the 1st year was about passing the money in 2022, the 2nd year was about the programs launching in 2023 and 2024 is about the money moving so we can get the dirt flying. As we move forward, we think there's opportunities for almost all of our products and we expect that to continue over a 5 year period.

Speaker 3

So in terms of quantification of it, I think we need I started with the Buttigieg quote because we got to really understand what those products projects are. But again, we saw some early examples that we talked about in the prepared remarks, specifically around street sweepers and safe digging. And we're pretty energized about this 5 year plus tailwind.

Speaker 5

Got it. It's very helpful. You had talked in the prepared remarks about planned production increases. And I just wanted to maybe understand where we're focused on there?

Speaker 3

Sure. So if we look at backlogs for certain products, look at those associated lead times, we're very focused on reducing those lead times and we made some progress with respect to some of our safe digging products and we're focused on reducing lead times for other product lines at our facility in Streator and for our street sweepers in Elgin, Illinois. So those are the 2 primary areas and the teams have goals in 2024. The federal signal operating systems that we talked about is going to be important part of that initiative. And we're continuing to see sequential improvement, which is encouraging.

Speaker 5

Sewer cleaners and street sweepers being in the 8 to 9 month range versus typical 4 to 5. Are they a little bit improved off of Q3 or still in that range or?

Speaker 3

It depends on which product line you're talking about in terms of the lead times. Certain Street Sweeper product lines are extended. I always talk about this is a high class problem to have because our orders continue to remain strong, while our production rates are increasing and our aftermarkets business continues to remain strong, which is an important driver of use of those particular products.

Speaker 5

Got it. I appreciate it guys. We'll leave it there. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

Thank you very much, Chris.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Walt Liptak with Seaport Research. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Good morning, Wout. Good morning, guys. Good morning. Congratulations on a great end to the year. I guess my first question is to Ian.

Speaker 6

Just thinking about the way that you're looking at the guidance for 2024 and you made a comment that you're going to be at the upper end of the EBITDA range. And so I guess the question is, what determines where you are within that range? Is it the amount of revenue that you ship and leverage? Or is it some of these productivity programs or capacity coming online? What helps you either plus or minus in the range?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think firstly, Walt, I think just to correct what we said in the prepared comments is that we expect to be in the upper half of the new target range. So not necessarily at the upper end of that range. So just wanted to clarify that.

Speaker 6

Okay. That's important.

Speaker 2

Yes. But in terms of what helps us get that margin improvement, I think we think about what the expansion at the Vactor facility and being able to actually tap into that expansion from in the sense of increasing the build production rates of that facility that has some pretty attractive drop through. So as we think about ramping up production in that facility that should have some margin benefits there. The other thing that would be a consideration is just the continued growth in our aftermarket business. We've seen some nice growth there again this year.

Speaker 2

I think we were up north of 20% year over year in terms of our aftermarket business. So that should be margin accretive. I think the other things would be some of the acquisitions we've completed in recent years, some of the value added M and A we've done that can have some margin benefits. And then finally Jennifer touched on it would be the federal signal operating system and just our ability to execute and to drive some efficiencies in our production processes. So those would be the main drivers from a margin standpoint.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Okay, thanks for that. In the prepared comments, you guys called out warning systems as having a good quarter. And if our memory serves, warning systems had been might have been lagging for some time. Is I know that's not that big of a part of the business, but if it's picking up, does it tell you something about some of the larger municipal projects?

Speaker 3

Yes. So, what I spoke about is that the warning systems was up year over year. And we have seen that's an area where we have seen the benefits from the FEMA funds. And again, we live in a very uncertain world and the need for redundant warning is critical. And so we've seen applications of that equipment, the use cases continue to proliferate.

Speaker 3

And I'd be remiss if I didn't add there that one of the encouraging things that occurred in 2023 and as we move into 2024, we just saw broad based strength across all of our SSG brands.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Okay. And kind of along those lines in SSG, you're putting in the 3rd production line. Can you tell us if this is because of market growth or is it market share gains? I know you're going after some international markets for some of the police lights and others.

Speaker 3

Yes. The good news is that it's in. And so the teams have done a really nice job in terms of the installation. It's a major project. It's a combination of to support organic growth initiatives.

Speaker 3

We're also bringing back we previously our supply chain was in Asia. So we're on shoring some of that work and it supports also approach that we have in terms of being the total supplier for certain pieces of equipment. So it was a hole in our product portfolio that we sourced from a 3rd party. And now, as the teams move strategically to supply more and more of that equipment, this fills one of those product holes, but overall very successful initiative.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. And then the last one for me is, you talked about the phased rollout of the operational excellence program that you talked about last year. What so what inning are we in? Obviously, SSG has done a great job with the lights, but are there other businesses that you could tell us that you're going to be working on or are working on? And in M and A, it sounds like Trackless is doing great.

Speaker 6

Do they get operational excellence first or do you let them grow?

Speaker 3

Yes, great question. So as we talked about last year, we added resources to our eightytwenty and lean initiative program. So we had a number of wins last year with our Oxbody group in particular is a great example in Alabama. And as we roll out this particular system, we are focused, for example, Elgin. Teams are out there already started in 2024 and that's an area because we're very focused on reducing lead times for that particular product line and increasing obviously increasing throughput.

Speaker 3

But Mark, Weber and the team have identified a number of different opportunities. Typically with acquisitions, we wait until kind of year 2, for that type of work. But put it this way, there's more demand right now for the resources, which is fantastic. And we're looking at how do we kind of increase demand in order to respond to what we think is meaningful opportunity going forward.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. All right. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 3

Good morning, Dave.

Speaker 7

So it looks like there was a slight divergent sequential orders patterns for ESG and SSG with SSG just seeing orders down slightly since last quarter. Is that just a blip from orders being inherently lumpy? Or is there more to that story that we should be thinking about?

Speaker 2

Yes. There's some lumpiness in terms of large fleet orders. And I think we talked about a large fleet order that we got in the first half of the year for the SSG business. We also, I think, on the last call made reference to Ford was having a model year changeover for its some of its police vehicles. So that had some impact.

Speaker 2

It probably was less of an impact than we originally anticipating in Q4, but that could have had some impact and that's primarily timing. People wouldn't place the orders in Q4, but then they'll place them in Q1. So I wouldn't necessarily say within SSG there's anything that we weren't expecting. Probably the opposite, the orders probably came in certainly higher than we'd expected with that model year changeover.

Speaker 7

Understood. Very helpful. And then just a quick one on your cash deployment priorities. I know you touched on it, but it seems like you did everything in 2023 from buybacks, dividend raises, CapEx and M and A, if you had to prioritize them for 2024, what would that look like?

Speaker 3

Sure. Number 1, investment in organic growth initiatives. Number 2, M and A. Number 3, competitive dividend yield. Number 4, opportunistic share buybacks.

Speaker 7

That's very helpful. Thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. And I'll turn the floor back to Ms. Sherman for any final comments.

Speaker 3

Thank you. We would like to express our sincere thanks to our stockholders, employees, distributors, dealers and customers for their continued support. Thank you for joining us today and we'll talk to you soon.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You

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