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Earnings HistoryForecast Alkami Technology EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.11Consensus EPS -$0.11Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPSN/AAlkami Technology Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$71.37 millionExpected Revenue$71.12 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$250.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AAlkami Technology Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date2/28/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, February 28, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Alkami Technology Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 28, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Alcony Technologies 4th Quarter 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on Wednesday, February 28, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Steve Tock, Vice President and Head of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:34Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you, operator. With me today on today's call are Alex Schutman, Chief Executive Officer and Brian Hill, Chief Financial Officer. During today's call, we may make forward looking statements about guidance and other matters regarding our future performance. These statements are based on management's current views and expectations and are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Our actual results may be materially different. Speaker 100:00:56For a summary of risk factors associated with our forward looking statements, please refer to today's press release and the sections in our latest Form 10 ks entitled Risk Factors and Forward Looking Statements. Statements being made during the call today are being made as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise these statements. Also, unless otherwise stated, financial measures discussed on this call will be on a non GAAP basis. We believe these measures are useful to investors in the understanding of our financial results. A reconciliation of the comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our earnings press release and in our filings with the SEC. Speaker 100:01:32I'd like to now turn the call over to Alex. Speaker 200:01:34Thank you, Steve. Good afternoon and thank you all for joining us. I'm pleased to report that Alchemy delivered strong financial performance in the Q4 of 2023. This contributed to a great year demonstrated on several fronts progress towards the multi year revenue and profit guidance we discussed at the beginning of the year. In the Q4, Alkermes grew revenue 29%, once again ahead of street expectations. Speaker 200:02:04Exited the quarter with 17,500,000 live registered users on the Alchemy platform, up 3,000,000 compared to the prior year. And we generated approximately $3,100,000 in adjusted EBITDA. The full year of 2023, we delivered excellent results, including 30% revenue growth, even positive adjusted EBITDA a quarter earlier than projected, making progress on key initiatives that will deliver on our future revenue and profit targets. Some highlights for the year include the following. We won 39 new logos with a total contract value 21% last year, representing the best new logo in our history in terms of financial institutions and total contract value sold. Speaker 200:02:56We demonstrated the growth opportunity in our client base by delivering total contract value from add on sales at the highest level in our history. Our culture of treating the client as our North Star produced results as Alchemy did not lose a single client off the platform during 2023. In Q4 alone, we renewed 20 clients who averaged 5 new products added and extended with Alchemy for another 5 years. In February of 2024, we renewed our largest client, which is a top 10 credit union, more than doubling the original total contract value and extending the relationship for another 5 years. Execution on the bank market continued as we nearly doubled our bank clients under contract and implemented clients on 2 new book bank course that are key to our long term strategy. Speaker 200:03:50We also signed our 2nd largest total contract value new logo transaction in our history, which is a bad client. Our platform investments for long term scalability began to deliver results to our clients and our economics. And we added executive talent in 2 important areas of our business, engineering and client experience, which includes all post sales activities. 1 of the most reassuring outcomes of 2023 is the resilience demonstrated by our end market, which contributes to the confidence we have in our longer term financial guidance. Our market consists of over 9,000 regional and community financial institutions that are rarely public entities. Speaker 200:04:39They are focused on their communities and operate with very diverse strategies. This results in a lower risk profile, which was evident in the months after the spring liquidity event that impacted a handful of super regional banks. Throughout 2023, we saw stability within our clients' deposit balances, number of customer accounts and strength in the buying behavior of our target market. We are optimistic as that momentum can carry carries over into 2024 and our optimism is supported by some recent market research. We just completed an independent survey of our market in which 90% of banks and 89% of credit unions said they were optimistic about their financial future over the next 18 months and 67% of banks and 72% of credit unions anticipate increases in their technology budgets in 2024. Speaker 200:05:41Alchemy's target market considers a modern digital banking platform to be a non discretionary investment. Our clients and prospects tell us that to remain competitive with mega banks, they must have a great digital sales and service channel. In fact, one industry analyst recently wrote, we believe the demand for digital transformation remains more robust than ever, particularly as many of these FIs need to invest in technology to attract deposits in what is now a more dynamic deposit gathering environment with higher interest rates. Companies that convert to and stay with Alchemy tell us that the investment we've made in a cloud native, single code base, multi tenant system with a superior user experience, extensibility as a philosophy and data as a long term advantage helps them compete against mega banks, which is why more Fios said yes to Alchemy in 2023 than any other provider in the market. We continue to focus on the priorities that we share with you since becoming a public company. Speaker 200:06:52Win in the bank segment of the market, drive growth through add on sales, engineer our technology platform for scale, become the employer of choice in our market and use M and A optimistically. These objectives will continue to drive our multi year revenue and profit goals. In 2024, we believe if we do 4 things well related to our long term priorities, we will create distance between us and the rest of the market that will be difficult for others to overcome. Number 1, continue to invest in client satisfaction in the client journey. Our clients want to move with speed and bringing new capabilities to market. Speaker 200:07:35We are investing in our platform to make it easier to integrate technologies into Alchemy and allocating engineering resources to reduce the time it takes to implement new capabilities for existing clients. Number 2, accelerate the momentum we're building in banks. During 2023, we had external experts benchmark our commercial offering against market requirements and they found that Alchemy now meets 92% of client expectations in commercial banking functionality. We have allocated product and engineering resources to fully close the remaining product gaps in 2024 And as we implement the 17 banks in our backlog, we will continue to strengthen the capabilities of our commercial offering. Our sales pipeline remains strong and we expect continued success in this market segment. Speaker 200:08:25Number 3, maintain our excellence in launching new clients. Each year as we grow, we continue to ramp the number of new clients we launch. It's one thing to launch a few clients a year, but Alkali plans to launch 40 new clients in 2024. The ability to successfully launch clients is a sustainable competitive advantage for Alchemy and during 2024, we intend to build upon our strength in this area while we improve productivity. Finally, we're going to build leadership at all levels of Alchemy. Speaker 200:09:02As we grow past 1,000 employees and are on our way to serve 25,000,000 or more digital users on our platform, we need leadership infrastructure just like we have technology infrastructure. We have a leadership development program within Alchemy that's helping our top 50 leaders become great software executives, understanding how to create value for our clients and our shareholders and maintain the culture that's been critical to our success. In closing, 2023 was a great year for Alchemy. We continue to add more digital users and lose less clients than any other digital banking provider in the market. This is a result of the people we have, the culture we thrive in, the market we serve and the technology we build. Speaker 200:09:48For too long, our market has suffered with outdated technology and Alchemy intends to bring great technology to this market and be the number one digital banking provider. As we look towards 2024, I'm proud to be part of 1 of the fastest growing bank technology companies and I'm excited to drive even more value for shareholders, clients and employees. I'll now hand the call to Brian. Speaker 300:10:14Thanks, Alex, and good afternoon, everyone. 2023 has been another successful year for Alkemi. We achieved $265,000,000 in revenue, representing 30% growth and improved our adjusted EBITDA loss from $18,000,000 in 2022 to $1,600,000 in 2023. Our Q4 results contributed significantly to our full year performance and allowed us to exit the year with positive momentum. For the Q4 of 2023, we achieved revenue of $71,400,000 representing growth of 29%. Speaker 300:10:49Subscription revenue grew 30% compared to the prior year quarter and represented approximately 97% of total revenue. We increased ARR by 29% and exited the year at $291,000,000 We currently have We implemented 7 new clients in the quarter and 37 for the full year, bringing our digital platform client count to 236. We now have 44 new clients in our implementation backlog representing 1,300,000 digital users. We exited the quarter with 17,500,000 registered users live on our digital banking platform, up 3,000,000 or 20% compared to last year. Over the last 12 months, registered user growth continues to be driven by 2 areas. Speaker 300:11:43First, the 37 financial institutions we implemented in 2023 represent 1,500,000 registered users and just over 27,000,000 of ARR, both of which exceeded the full year of 2022 by approximately 35%. 2nd, our existing clients increased their registered users by 1 point 5,000,000 demonstrating the market's focus to drive customer retention and growth through the digital banking platform. In terms of churn, for 2023, we did not experience any digital banking client churn and we expect to lose only 3 clients in 2024 representing less than 1% of our ARR. This compares to our expected long term average churn of 2% to 3%. We ended the year with an RPU of $16.63 which is 7% higher than last year driven by add on sales success and the addition of new clients who tend to onboard with a higher average RPU. Speaker 300:12:44We continue to see healthy demand across our product portfolio. During 2023, we signed 39 digital banking platform clients of which 16 were signed during the Q4. Our new client wins reflect solid representation from banks with 12 signed during 2023. In addition, 14 of our signed new clients adopted ACH Alert, while 22 adopted segment demonstrating the importance acquisitions can play in building out our platform and creating a competitive advantage. Our add on sales focus continues to yield results representing 35% of total new sales for 2023. Speaker 300:13:24In addition to add on sales, our client sales team is responsible for client contract renewals. During the year, we renewed 31 client relationships where we raised the ARR run rate 6% through a combination of new product sales and committed client growth. And finally, our remaining purchase obligation or contract backlog reached $1,100,000,000 almost 4 times our ARR and 28% higher than a year ago. Now turning to gross margin and profitability. For the Q4 of 2023, non GAAP gross margin was 60.3 percent representing 3.90 basis points of expansion when compared to the prior year quarter. Speaker 300:14:11Gross margin expansion resulted from improvement in our hosting cost per registered user combined with operating leverage across our post sale operations such as our implementation, support and site reliability engineering teams. We continue to scale post sale operations while delivering the previously mentioned higher level of output. As a reminder, our 2026 target operating model is a non GAAP gross margin of 65% as we continue to scale our revenue. Moving to operating expenses. For the Q4 of 2023, non GAAP R and D expense was 17,300,000 percent of revenue, 5.30 basis points lower than the year ago quarter. Speaker 300:14:56We are achieving operational scale while investing in our platform to drive future efficiency, best in class reliability and innovate new products and functionality. Our target operating model is to leverage R and D to 20% of revenue by 2026 while we continue to invest and expand our platform. Non GAAP sales and marketing expense is $10,000,000 or 14% of revenue in line with the prior year. We continue to achieve a high level of sales team productivity and go to market efficiency. For example, during 2023, we increased our ARR just under $65,000,000 while investing $41,000,000 in sales and marketing, representing an efficiency ratio of 1.6:one for ARR creation to sales and marketing investment. Speaker 300:15:47We expect to maintain or slightly improve our go to market efficiency as we scale the business and gain market share. As you consider 2024, keep in mind we will host our annual client conference in the Q2, which results in approximately 2,000,000 dollars to $2,500,000 of higher spin than other quarters of the year. Non GAAP general and administrative expenses were $13,500,000 or 19 percent of revenue. In the prior year quarter, G and A was approximately 21% of revenue. The margin expansion is primarily attributable to revenue scale. Speaker 300:16:27As we closely manage G and A expenses, we expect to achieve 10% to 12% as a percentage of revenue as we move towards our 2026 profitability objectives. Our adjusted EBITDA for the 4th quarter was $3,100,000 which is an improvement of over $7,000,000 when compared to the prior year quarter. We are very pleased with our 2023 adjusted EBITDA progression. As a reminder, we've established a 2026 adjusted EBITDA margin objective of 20%. We expect our path to 20% will occur at a pace of roughly 700 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion per year. Speaker 300:17:10Now moving to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with just over $92,000,000 of cash and marketable securities. During Q4, we retired our term debt of just over $82,000,000 Our credit facility revolver remains undrawn and provides $60,000,000 dollars of borrowing capacity. Now turning to guidance. For the Q1 of 2024, we are providing guidance for revenue in the range of $74,500,000 to $76,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $2,500,000 to 3,500,000 dollars For the full year of 2024, we are providing guidance for revenue in the range of $327,000,000 to $333,000,000 representing growth of 24% to 26% and adjusted EBITDA guidance of $20,000,000 to 23,000,000 dollars Additionally, because of the impact of expense timing such as our client conference as I mentioned earlier, we expect the 2nd quarter to be the low point of our adjusted EBITDA in 2024 modestly lower than the Q1 of the year and consistent with the long term seasonality of our 2nd quarter expenses. Speaker 300:18:20In summary, 2023 was a great year for Alchemy, a year of strong performance where we achieved a record level of new sales from both new client wins and add on sales, added a record number of digital users to our digital banking platform and meaningfully improved our profitability profile by exiting the year with gross margin over 60% and continuing a trend of positive adjusted EBITDA. We remain confident that we are well positioned to achieve our 2026 financial objective of 20% adjusted EBITDA margin. Our confidence is derived from exceptional visibility and a track record of execution and scale across all areas of the business. We exit the Q4 with strong momentum and look forward to delivering another great year in 2024. With that, I'll hand the call to the operator for questions. Operator00:19:15Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question session. And your first question comes from the line of Mayank Tandon from Needham. Your line is open. Speaker 400:19:50Thank you. Good evening, Brian and Alex. I wanted to start with a question on the bank market. As you compete for banks in the SMB space, I just want to get a sense of what the competitive landscape looks like? What are your win rates in that market? Speaker 400:20:07And who are you taking share from? Are they the legacy incumbents or some of the other digital centric players that might have secured that market some years ago, but now are maybe coming upon renewals and maybe losing market share to cloud data solution like yours? Speaker 200:20:23Yes, thanks for the question. This is Alex. The pattern match is very similar to the early days of the credit union market, where these clients have a legacy digital platform that might be 10 or 15 years old. And so we are replacing those legacy platforms that are 10 or 15 years old with a more modern experience. What they're realizing is that kind of 2 things. Speaker 200:20:541, even though they're serving businesses, those businesses are made of people and those people have an expectation of a more modern experience in any of the technology that they're using. The second thing that they're realizing is that some of the legacy technology creates a pretty big overhead on their own internal operations and that a more modern platform can create some efficiencies for them internally. But the short answer is we're replacing 10 to 15 year old technology just like we did in the early days of our participation in the credit union market. Speaker 400:21:43That's very helpful, Alex. And then maybe just turning to the financials. And Brian, maybe you talked about this, but just trying to look at the revenue growth that you guided to. How does that break down between ARPU expansion and obviously user growth being the main engine? Just want to get a sense of the balance between the 2 key drivers of underlying growth? Speaker 300:22:05Yes. No, that's great, Mayank. Our 2024 revenue guidance, it's very comparable to the longer term guide that we provided on revenue and as well as our profitability objective. And what we continue to say is we've got a company, we've developed a model, we have a market that can sustain a 25% growth rate, which is the midpoint of our guidance. And how we achieve that from year to year is a combination of 2 things. Speaker 300:22:36We would expect to add between 18% to 20% from users to the platform and 5% to 7% coming from ARPU expansion. The users that we add to the platform will first come from the new logo backlog that we have entering the year. So we have 1,300,000 digital users in backlog. We have 44 financial institutions in backlog and we expect to implement approximately 40 of those this year. The balance will come from our clients growing their users. Speaker 300:23:09So in 2023, our clients grew their users 10%, in 2022 slightly higher than 10%. So we expect that we'll continue at that 10% existing client user rate. As it relates to ARPU expansion, 2 areas of that we derive expansion in 2024 and really beyond, One is add on sales. Add on sales is now approximately 35% of the total contract value that we sell in each year. We think over time we can increase that to a level of 50%. Speaker 300:23:43But ARPU expansion primarily comes from add on sales into the existing base. And then finally, what we're identifying is as we have more products to sell, our sales team on the new client win side, they're selling more products on the initial order. So in 2023, on average, we had 18 products per order. We had over 14 clients that had 20 plus products. So there's a greater adoption of products on the initial order. Speaker 300:24:13If you went back a year, it was 17 products, a year before that it was 15, and the year before that it was 12. So we're seeing good momentum in the number of products that are being taken on the initial order, which also has the impact of expanding ARPU over time. Speaker 400:24:29That's very helpful color. Thank you so much. Operator00:24:35And your next question comes from the line of Andrew Schmidt from Citi. Your line is open. Speaker 500:24:44Hey, Alex, hey, Brian, Steve. Good quarter here. Good consistent results. Thanks for taking my questions. The ARR, I think it was up 29% exiting the year, the live ARR. Speaker 500:24:57Yet the I think the revenue outlook, as you mentioned before, Brian, 25% at the midpoint. Maybe you can help us just reconcile that. It seems like ARR is obviously a good indicator, but any help there would be great. Thanks so much. Speaker 300:25:12Yes. So when we provide guidance 1 quarter out, Andrew, it's a very predictable revenue model. So we generally have between 97% to 98% ARR coverage on the subscription revenue that we're going to deliver in the next quarter. And then also what we know, and we know this with a pretty high degree of certainty, again, providing us the visibility and predictability of the model is the number of clients that will launch in the quarter. So the clients that will take live out of backlog and then also really what's been scheduled for the full year. Speaker 300:25:53So that's a very known item for us as well. And so then the final areas that can provide revenue lift over time is our ability to sell more product from an add on sales perspective into the base and the speed at which we implement that. So that's the variables that we have that can drive the revenue growth. Speaker 500:26:17All right. Thank you, Brian. Maybe then just a product question. I think, Alex, you mentioned commercial product, big initiative this year is to sort of continue to iterate and improve that. Maybe talk a little bit about where you're at today in terms of business sizes you serve, the functionality and then some of the things that you're going to be doing this year to reiterate that? Speaker 500:26:39Obviously, big focus on deposit gathering, it seems like it could be well received in the market, but any help there would be great. Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:26:48Thanks. The feedback that we've had from customers that we've signed in the bank market with respect to our commercial offering is that they're attracted to our commercial offering, but with some of their more sophisticated customers, they have, just call it in the payments area, they just have wire capability that they'd like to see us improve our sophistication on. So generally, as I mentioned in the call, external study, we get really great coverage on the product. When our customers look at the product and then look at their more sophisticated customers, they're saying, boy, Alchemy, there's a couple of things you could do to help me with our more sophisticated customers. The second area is their customers that have more complex ownership interlocks, if you will, where one person might own 3 or 4 different LLCs and they might share those LLCs with different folks and they might have bookkeepers that operate against different entities. Speaker 200:28:05And so that's something that we've built in the back half of the year, once again from customer feedback to say, I need a better way to allow these sophisticated I would say not sophisticated, but more complicated entities to be able to access the right businesses in the digital channel. So in summary, their ownership structures and certain areas of payments like wire processing. Speaker 500:28:46Got it. Thank you very much, Alex. Good Speaker 200:28:49morning. We're at a pretty fine grain level now when you start talking about having 92% of coverage on the product. We're starting to get to a pretty fine grain level in terms of what we need to work on. Speaker 500:29:02Got it. Thanks, Alex. Appreciate the comments. Operator00:29:09And your next question comes from the line of Jacob Stefan from Lake Street. Your line is open. Speaker 600:29:17Hey, guys. Congrats on the results and strong finish to the year here. I just want to touch on the non renewals that you pointed out. What is this a factor of? Are these customers switching to a competitor or are these more just acquisitions in the F5 space? Speaker 300:29:38Yes. So the 3 financial institutions that we know are not renewing and leaving us in 2024, 2 of those are pretty small financial institutions that are going through a core conversion and they've selected cores that are more esoteric in nature that we will never build integration to. There's not a density of financial institutions on those cores for the investment to the right return of investment for us. The third one is the result of the financial institution being acquired. Generally for Alchemy, we've been the beneficiary from merger and acquisitions of financial institutions. Speaker 300:30:26But in this case, we are not the our financial institutions that's our client is not the acquirer and they're moving to the digital banking platform of the acquiring financial institution. Speaker 600:30:41Okay. And then, it sounds like the mix of banks and implementation backlog is shifting kind of above the onethree banks, the twothree credit union, like it has been over the last couple of quarters. But maybe you could just kind of talk about what you're seeing there? Is there any difference in implementation times for a bank versus a credit union? Speaker 300:31:07Yes. I'll jump in and take this one and Alex you can add as you fulfill it. The implementation time for a bank is slightly longer than a credit union today. So our credit unions are averaging depending on the number of integrations and the complexity and the size, but they average between 8 months 9 months. A bank, the implementation lift is it's more hands on. Speaker 300:31:33There's more client specificity of the financial institution that's involved in the implementation effort like around delegation of authority, roles and rights and wires and those types of things implemented as well. So that tends to extend the implementation out a bit longer. What's cool about 2023 is we added integration into 3 new cores, 2 of those were in the 4th quarter. So now we have integration into 8 bank core systems and there's 2 or 3 more that we feel like we need to build over time to have great coverage of the bank side of the market. Speaker 200:32:22Maybe I would just add to that. For clarity, when we say we added integration, that means that customer went live. So this wasn't something that we sold. This is the customer is live on a core. These two cores are critical to our long term bank strategy. Speaker 200:32:41And what we tend to see is that there's a bit of logarithmic curve on effort that it takes to do an integration, where after about the 5th integration, the 5th time that we do an integration, then we're at a steady state of the integration effort. So we were really pleased to get these 2 clients live on these 2 brand new bank course for us, which open up a pretty big chunk of the market. Speaker 300:33:10And just to get more direct on the backlog, the 17 bank financial institutions in our backlog, we expect to implement 13 of those in 2024 and we had 7 bank implementations in 2023. So we're starting to see more productivity and see a greater number of bank financial institutions come live on our platform. Speaker 600:33:37Okay, very helpful. Thank you. Operator00:33:43And your next question comes from the line of Pat Walravens from Citizens JMP. Your line is open. Speaker 500:33:51Great. Thank you. Hey, Alex, can I ask sort of big picture, what are the biggest challenges facing your banking clients in 2024? And how might that be different than 2023? And then the same question on the credit union side. Speaker 200:34:12Yes, I would say for both, it's obviously continuing to attract and retain deposits in the environment, which creates a pretty heavy focus on digital account opening or call it frictionless account opening. And that could be an account opening of an existing customer or member who is buying a new product or it could be the acquisition of a new customer. I think, Pat, the thing that folks are starting to understand and I wouldn't necessarily say, hey, it's a big challenge in 'twenty four, but it is a challenge that they're starting to address is if you think about a regional or community financial institution, bank or credit union, there's 5 systems that you have to have to run that bank or that credit union, just like if you were an airline, you'd have to have a reservation system. You have to have a core system. You have to have a digital banking system. Speaker 200:35:20You have to have payments capability. You have to have lending capability. You have to have fraud management. Now if you're Bank of America, you would add to that your data platform and your data capability. You would consider that the skills that you have in your organization to manage data, which is obviously the engine for any kind of artificial intelligence, you would consider that to be as critical as the other 5 systems. Speaker 200:35:49What we're starting to see in our customer base is a recognition that they're having to start to build the skills from a data perspective to allow them to compete with the mega bank. So kind of twofold answer, Pat. 1 is to continue to attract deposits and continue to be able to in a frictionless manner offer new products and onboard customers. But then more strategically, they're realizing that they've got to start building some skills and capabilities that they don't have today to be able to compete with the mega banks. Speaker 500:36:27Great context. Thank you. Operator00:36:33Your next question from the line of Alexia from JPMorgan. Your line is open. Speaker 700:36:41Hi. This is Elise Kenner on for Alexia Gogolev. So you kind of touched on this earlier, talking about the ratio of net new ARR to sales and marketing spend and how you aim to get that to, I believe you said, around 1.6. And I know you provided some color on what that entails, but could just kind of go into more detail on how you plan to get there? Thank you. Speaker 200:37:02The question was and I'll repeat it maybe. Was it around the target operating model in 2026? Speaker 700:37:11Yes. About getting to the 1.6 ratio of net new ARR and sales and marketing spend? Thank you. Speaker 300:37:20Yes. So when we think about 2026 and sales and marketing as a percent of revenue, so ultimately driving to our 20 percent adjusted EBITDA, we believe that we'll continue to maintain a consistent level of efficiency that we have today. So in other words, to continue to generate the new client wins and cross sell activity, our investment dollars will be comparable in sales and marketing to our revenue growth. And so by 2026, we'll still be between a 14% of revenue to 15% of revenue contribution from that component of operating expenses. In order to achieve that, we'll maintain a 1 point 5 to in 2024, it's a 1.6 of ARR creation to sales and marketing expense. Speaker 300:38:18Other areas that are equally as important is we would expect to continue to leverage our R and D down to 20% of revenue and we're doing that from a couple of different areas. One is revenue scale. 2nd is continued efficiency within our engineering group and our product group as well as some offshoring activity that we began in 2023. And then finally, G and A, we would expect to be at a 10% to 12% of revenue by 2026. That's primarily coming from just expense management and scaling our G and A line as our revenue grows. Speaker 200:39:06So Alexi, the 1.6 to 1 ARR creation to sales and marketing investment is what we're achieving today. So that's not a future target that we're somehow growing into. That's what we achieved in 2023. Speaker 700:39:26Okay, got it. Thank you. Operator00:39:31And your next question comes from the line of Charles Snappen from Stephens. Your line is open. Speaker 800:39:38Hi, guys. Good evening and thank you for taking my question. I know the new business gets a lot of airtime, but I was hoping you could comment on some of the trends you're seeing in your renewal business, specifically in terms of your ability to upsell upon renewal as well as any pricing trends you're seeing when the contracts come up? Speaker 300:40:01The renewal class in 2023 was pretty phenomenal. So we renewed 31 clients and we renewed 20 of those in the Q4. In all of 2022, we renewed 20 clients. So we're seeing more renewals. And as those are occurring, we're seeing a nice uplift of about 6% upon renewal that's coming from a couple of different areas. Speaker 300:40:26It's cross selling new product into the client account and then it's also the client signing up for additional minimum commitments that increase over the new renewal period. It's those two components that are driving the uplift in renewals that we're seeing. And then also in February, as Alex mentioned in his prepared comments, which was a very nice renewal for us was our largest client, which is a top 10 credit union. And when you compare the contract value of this client to the original contract that they signed 6 years ago, the value of that contract has more than doubled. Speaker 800:41:05That's great. Appreciate that color. And as a follow-up, just had a financials question and apologies in advance if you touched on this already, but could you talk about the gross margin assumptions embedded in your 2024 guide? I know historically you've talked about 200 to 300 bps of margin expansion. Imagine it will be somewhere in that range, but you also have some kind of balancing investment with efficiency. Speaker 800:41:31So any comments you can make on cadence and how we should think about that expansion on a quarterly basis would be helpful as well. Speaker 300:41:39Yes, no, that's great. So, in 2024, we're going to experience 700 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. The way to think about that is 250 basis points will come roughly 250 basis points will come from gross margin and 4.50 basis points will come from OpEx. The gross margin leverage that we're experiencing, a good component of that is coming from investments that we're making in our platform that continue to drive down our cost per registered user in terms of the hosting costs that we pay to AWS. The other areas where we're seeing nice operating leverage is in the post sale operations of our business. Speaker 300:42:25So implementation, site reliability engineering and our support functions. All of those functions are experiencing operational efficiency that's contributing to the year over year gross margin expansion. When we and I know you didn't ask this, but when we drop down to OpEx, the majority of about 2 thirds of the operating expense efficiency will come from G and A and the balance will be split evenly between R and Operator00:43:08Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Chris Kennedy from William Blair. Your line is open. Speaker 400:43:15Good afternoon and thanks for taking the question. Alex, you touched on the importance of data. Can you just talk about kind of what you're doing to leverage the data that's on your platform? Speaker 200:43:29Yes, thanks. For us from the very beginning when Alchemy was created, there was the notion that storing the transactional data could be useful for the financial institution. And then we and we built some technology to do that. And then we took a pretty big step forward with an acquisition somewhere before last, I'm looking at Brian. April 22. Speaker 200:43:59April 22 with an acquisition of April 22, which is a company with a modern data platform. And if you think about what capability we had that company, which is now part of Alchemy, had the ability to ingest, cleanse, contextualized transactional data from lots of different legacy bank cores. And then you combine that with the information, the transactional information that's coming out of a digital banking application. So now across that surface area, we have transactional data that we can analyze from more accounts than probably anybody but Bank of America right now. And so if you think about a topic like artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence is good data plus different types of models. Speaker 200:45:00You could have a retrieval model, you could have a classification model, you could have a predictive model. And so, what we're able to do with our customers is have this great data set that we've been able to do a lot of machine learning against that helps them classify their customers or members into demographic groups that allows them to target better And then also has a predictive model in it, so that it can say for them this demographic group, you ought to make this offer for. So in summary, we think that data capability is the long term differentiator for digital banking. And we had both our own organic build from the very beginning of the company, then supplemented that with a really great acquisition in April of 2022 that results in a data platform that's got an immense amount of transactions that we can do machine learning against and apply both classification models and predictive models to help customers. And I'll turn to Brian because we actually saw a lot of success in cross selling that product and in selling that product with our new logos this last year. Speaker 300:46:23That's right. So this was definitely a differentiator for us as it related to new client wins. We had 22 of the 39 new clients that we sold in 2024 that adopted the segment marketing and analytics product that Alex was referring to. Speaker 400:46:46Great. Thanks for taking the question. Operator00:46:52And your next question comes from the line of Adam Hajuszkas from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Speaker 800:46:59Great. Thanks for taking my questions. It would be great to talk a little bit about the broader industry. And Alex and Brian, what you're hearing your customer conversations around bank IT budgets for the year, anything to call out there? Speaker 200:47:14Yes. Like I said in my in some of my remarks, the priority for the customers that I talk to are around really 3 big things. 1 is reducing friction. So how can they take an end to end new customer, new member or existing customer member looking for a new product? How can they take the friction out of that experience? Speaker 200:47:45Number 2 is fraud. Fraud is huge on their minds. It was interesting, we had our customer advisory board together a few months ago and we kind of created a decision framework for them to try to understand where they were leaning. For so many years, so much of what they asked us to do was to improve their customer or member experience and do certain things that would make a really great customer or member experience. Some of those things have the ability to create a threat vector. Speaker 200:48:18And so, what we were asking them is, how do you think about things today? Do you still leaning into customer member experience? Are you more leaning into fraud management? 100% of them said, boy, I'm willing to give up some of the customer or member experience to fight fraud because fraud is just is really becoming a big deal for me. And then finally, modern money movement, right? Speaker 200:48:43Obviously, as the generations change, if you look at something like a bill pay, it looks a lot like a checkbook. And so what our customers have asked us to do that we've built for them is, can I have a much more modern looking money movement place where somebody comes in and they're selecting between 4 or 5 different options of how they can move money as opposed to going to 3 or 4 different applications that are unintegrated? So any kind of friction reduction, digital account opening, any kind of ease of buying a product, any a lot of investment around fraud and fraud management and the discussion of the nuances between the balancing of a good experience with fighting fraud and then providing a more modern payment experience. Speaker 300:49:40And Adam, with the innovation that's occurring through the digital banking platform that Alex was describing, that's the driver in the market. That's the tailwind in the market for companies like Alchemy to pick up the number of new clients and the digital users that we're picking up. The current providers in the space are not keeping up with the mega banks and some of the super regional banks and what they're investing through their digital banking platform. And that's what requires the end market to look at more of a contemporary provider of services in the space such as an Alchemy, which has been the fitting us in the market share that we're gaining. Speaker 800:50:22Got it. Thanks. That's all really useful color. And can you just remind us, what the typical product roadmap looks like for a bank versus a credit union? And how that land and expand motion differs between the 2? Speaker 800:50:34Just curious if there's anything you've learned as some of your earlier bank cohorts have matured a bit? Speaker 300:50:40So we're pretty early in the early innings of penetrating the bank market. And it really depends on the bank financial institution. So if it's a bank financial institution that's heavy leaning into commercial clients and commercial deposits, then the primary difference between a credit union and a bank is the commercial banking offering. As it relates to the retail side, if it's a bank financial institution that's predominantly growing and has a strategy more focusing on retail clients, it looks very similar to a credit union. So not a lot of differences there. Speaker 200:51:20Maybe you can comment Brian on just what we're seeing from an ARPU perspective between a new logo bank and a new logo credit union. Speaker 300:51:30Sure. So and the best way to look at that is to unpack our backlog that we have going into the year. So 44 financial institutions, 1,300,000 digital users and the ARPU on our backlog going into 2024 is around $26 A bank financial institution or the banks that we have in our backlog and there's 17 of them, they're averaging $31 per user compared to the credit unions which are $23 per user. Even the $23 per user on the credit union side of our backlog, that's a significant up lift above where the company's blended averages. What's driving that is the number of our products that are being adopted on the MSA and on the original sale. Speaker 300:52:17As I mentioned earlier, on average now our clients are adopting 18 products on the original order compared to 17 a year ago, 15 a year before that, so much different. But what's driving the increase between a bank and a credit union is predominantly the commercial banking platform and commercial banking application that they'll take. Speaker 800:52:43Really great color. Thanks a lot, Brian. Thanks, Alex. Operator00:52:49And your next question comes from the line of Saket Kalia from Barclays. Your line is open. Speaker 900:52:57Okay, great. Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions here. A nice quarter. Speaker 300:53:01Hey Saket. Speaker 900:53:02Hey, Alex. Hey, Brian. Hey, listen, sorry in advance if these questions have been asked, but maybe first for you, Brian, on the ARPU point, the revenue per user, that really stood out to me this quarter. And you just touched on sort of the add on sales motion really adding more product to the existing base. Can we just talk about maybe 1 or 2 of those additional products that are most substantial to sort of that ARPU lift? Speaker 300:53:33Well, we're seeing a lot of product adoption is really in 4 areas in 2023 and those are pretty consistent with 2022. So in the money movement area of our platform, we're seeing nice cross sell activity that's happening also in the customer service area, which is where you'll see some machine learning type of products that come through like chatbots and those type of things. Security and fraud is an area where we're having some pretty strong cross sell activity. A lot of that's being driven by our ACH Alert acquisition from a couple of years ago. And then of course segment, that's contributing a lot on the marketing side of our platform and driving some adoption there. Speaker 300:54:21All those products that I just mentioned or those product family groups, those are what I would refer to as more of a richer RPU set compared to some of the other product groups that we have. Speaker 900:54:35Got it. That makes sense. Alex, maybe for my follow-up for you, a lot of focus, a lot of success in the bank vertical here. And I think you made some comments earlier just on the pipeline. I'm curious, how is sort of the win rate in that vertical evolved? Speaker 900:54:52And do you feel like you're getting the reference enough reference customers to sort of to help that discussion to shorten the sales cycles going forward. Anything on that win rate and sort of sales cycles, if you will? Speaker 200:55:05Yes. From a market perspective, one of the things that we measure is what is the awareness of us as a provider and that's something that we continue to try to move forward. We still have room to go there. We are consistently number 1 or 2 in the credit union market in terms of a buyer being aware that they should consider Alchemy. We're currently number 7 in the bank market. Speaker 200:55:36So we still we're building a new business in that market and so we're still making progress in terms of general awareness. We had I think we talked about this in the last call, probably a year to a year and a half ago, we had a really win rate in the bank market, but we didn't have a lot of that. And we said to ourselves, we it's probably not good news. We actually need to see the win rate come down, which means we'll have more at bats. So we have more at bats this year, the win rate came down and that is a result of being more well known now in the bank market. Speaker 200:56:19So in summary, we have room to go to become known as a provider in the bank market and we're working on that. We got more at bats this year than we had last year. And so year over year, the win rate went down as a result of the increased at bats. Speaker 300:56:37Yes. And second, when we look at the bank market, there's a lot of factors that drive success there. It's not just at least at this stage, it's not just the number of new clients that we're adding, it's how are we moving the product, What's the product market fit? And as Alex mentioned earlier in the call and some prepared comments is we had a consultant come in and they evaluated our commercial offering and we feel like we're 90%, 92% there in having the right product to reach a broad set of bank financial institutions and we're going to close the remaining gap in 2024. Also it's the core integrations that you have. Speaker 300:57:20We now have core integration into 8 bank core systems. There's probably 2 to 3 more that we need to add to even provide greater density, but we're making a lot of progress in adding additional Bancorp integrations. And then, unaided awareness or share of voice, however you want to describe that, what Alex was just describing, If you go back 2 years ago, we were only in 20 bank deals. In 2022, we were in about 45 or so. In 2023, that moved up to over 60. Speaker 300:57:56So now we're being invited to more deals that results in a lower win rate. But as all 3 or 4 of these factors come together, that's ultimately how we'll forge success moving forward with the objective by 2026. When you look at our new the composition of the new clients that we sell in 2026, our view is half of those would be credit unions and half of those would be bank financial institutions. Speaker 200:58:22I'll just probably summarize to say, there's a management team here that has been in companies that have entered markets. And what we understand is that you can't learn to swim in the front yard. And so you decide to go into market and you go start attacking that market and then you understand what you need to take as a next step. And so we're exactly where we expect it to be at this point in time in terms of building in the bank market. We know what to do next with products, with skills, with awareness, with marketing. Speaker 200:58:54We're really pleased with the progress. Speaker 900:58:57Got it. Really nicely done. Thanks guys. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Alcony Technologies 4th Quarter 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on Wednesday, February 28, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Steve Tock, Vice President and Head of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:34Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you, operator. With me today on today's call are Alex Schutman, Chief Executive Officer and Brian Hill, Chief Financial Officer. During today's call, we may make forward looking statements about guidance and other matters regarding our future performance. These statements are based on management's current views and expectations and are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Our actual results may be materially different. Speaker 100:00:56For a summary of risk factors associated with our forward looking statements, please refer to today's press release and the sections in our latest Form 10 ks entitled Risk Factors and Forward Looking Statements. Statements being made during the call today are being made as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise these statements. Also, unless otherwise stated, financial measures discussed on this call will be on a non GAAP basis. We believe these measures are useful to investors in the understanding of our financial results. A reconciliation of the comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our earnings press release and in our filings with the SEC. Speaker 100:01:32I'd like to now turn the call over to Alex. Speaker 200:01:34Thank you, Steve. Good afternoon and thank you all for joining us. I'm pleased to report that Alchemy delivered strong financial performance in the Q4 of 2023. This contributed to a great year demonstrated on several fronts progress towards the multi year revenue and profit guidance we discussed at the beginning of the year. In the Q4, Alkermes grew revenue 29%, once again ahead of street expectations. Speaker 200:02:04Exited the quarter with 17,500,000 live registered users on the Alchemy platform, up 3,000,000 compared to the prior year. And we generated approximately $3,100,000 in adjusted EBITDA. The full year of 2023, we delivered excellent results, including 30% revenue growth, even positive adjusted EBITDA a quarter earlier than projected, making progress on key initiatives that will deliver on our future revenue and profit targets. Some highlights for the year include the following. We won 39 new logos with a total contract value 21% last year, representing the best new logo in our history in terms of financial institutions and total contract value sold. Speaker 200:02:56We demonstrated the growth opportunity in our client base by delivering total contract value from add on sales at the highest level in our history. Our culture of treating the client as our North Star produced results as Alchemy did not lose a single client off the platform during 2023. In Q4 alone, we renewed 20 clients who averaged 5 new products added and extended with Alchemy for another 5 years. In February of 2024, we renewed our largest client, which is a top 10 credit union, more than doubling the original total contract value and extending the relationship for another 5 years. Execution on the bank market continued as we nearly doubled our bank clients under contract and implemented clients on 2 new book bank course that are key to our long term strategy. Speaker 200:03:50We also signed our 2nd largest total contract value new logo transaction in our history, which is a bad client. Our platform investments for long term scalability began to deliver results to our clients and our economics. And we added executive talent in 2 important areas of our business, engineering and client experience, which includes all post sales activities. 1 of the most reassuring outcomes of 2023 is the resilience demonstrated by our end market, which contributes to the confidence we have in our longer term financial guidance. Our market consists of over 9,000 regional and community financial institutions that are rarely public entities. Speaker 200:04:39They are focused on their communities and operate with very diverse strategies. This results in a lower risk profile, which was evident in the months after the spring liquidity event that impacted a handful of super regional banks. Throughout 2023, we saw stability within our clients' deposit balances, number of customer accounts and strength in the buying behavior of our target market. We are optimistic as that momentum can carry carries over into 2024 and our optimism is supported by some recent market research. We just completed an independent survey of our market in which 90% of banks and 89% of credit unions said they were optimistic about their financial future over the next 18 months and 67% of banks and 72% of credit unions anticipate increases in their technology budgets in 2024. Speaker 200:05:41Alchemy's target market considers a modern digital banking platform to be a non discretionary investment. Our clients and prospects tell us that to remain competitive with mega banks, they must have a great digital sales and service channel. In fact, one industry analyst recently wrote, we believe the demand for digital transformation remains more robust than ever, particularly as many of these FIs need to invest in technology to attract deposits in what is now a more dynamic deposit gathering environment with higher interest rates. Companies that convert to and stay with Alchemy tell us that the investment we've made in a cloud native, single code base, multi tenant system with a superior user experience, extensibility as a philosophy and data as a long term advantage helps them compete against mega banks, which is why more Fios said yes to Alchemy in 2023 than any other provider in the market. We continue to focus on the priorities that we share with you since becoming a public company. Speaker 200:06:52Win in the bank segment of the market, drive growth through add on sales, engineer our technology platform for scale, become the employer of choice in our market and use M and A optimistically. These objectives will continue to drive our multi year revenue and profit goals. In 2024, we believe if we do 4 things well related to our long term priorities, we will create distance between us and the rest of the market that will be difficult for others to overcome. Number 1, continue to invest in client satisfaction in the client journey. Our clients want to move with speed and bringing new capabilities to market. Speaker 200:07:35We are investing in our platform to make it easier to integrate technologies into Alchemy and allocating engineering resources to reduce the time it takes to implement new capabilities for existing clients. Number 2, accelerate the momentum we're building in banks. During 2023, we had external experts benchmark our commercial offering against market requirements and they found that Alchemy now meets 92% of client expectations in commercial banking functionality. We have allocated product and engineering resources to fully close the remaining product gaps in 2024 And as we implement the 17 banks in our backlog, we will continue to strengthen the capabilities of our commercial offering. Our sales pipeline remains strong and we expect continued success in this market segment. Speaker 200:08:25Number 3, maintain our excellence in launching new clients. Each year as we grow, we continue to ramp the number of new clients we launch. It's one thing to launch a few clients a year, but Alkali plans to launch 40 new clients in 2024. The ability to successfully launch clients is a sustainable competitive advantage for Alchemy and during 2024, we intend to build upon our strength in this area while we improve productivity. Finally, we're going to build leadership at all levels of Alchemy. Speaker 200:09:02As we grow past 1,000 employees and are on our way to serve 25,000,000 or more digital users on our platform, we need leadership infrastructure just like we have technology infrastructure. We have a leadership development program within Alchemy that's helping our top 50 leaders become great software executives, understanding how to create value for our clients and our shareholders and maintain the culture that's been critical to our success. In closing, 2023 was a great year for Alchemy. We continue to add more digital users and lose less clients than any other digital banking provider in the market. This is a result of the people we have, the culture we thrive in, the market we serve and the technology we build. Speaker 200:09:48For too long, our market has suffered with outdated technology and Alchemy intends to bring great technology to this market and be the number one digital banking provider. As we look towards 2024, I'm proud to be part of 1 of the fastest growing bank technology companies and I'm excited to drive even more value for shareholders, clients and employees. I'll now hand the call to Brian. Speaker 300:10:14Thanks, Alex, and good afternoon, everyone. 2023 has been another successful year for Alkemi. We achieved $265,000,000 in revenue, representing 30% growth and improved our adjusted EBITDA loss from $18,000,000 in 2022 to $1,600,000 in 2023. Our Q4 results contributed significantly to our full year performance and allowed us to exit the year with positive momentum. For the Q4 of 2023, we achieved revenue of $71,400,000 representing growth of 29%. Speaker 300:10:49Subscription revenue grew 30% compared to the prior year quarter and represented approximately 97% of total revenue. We increased ARR by 29% and exited the year at $291,000,000 We currently have We implemented 7 new clients in the quarter and 37 for the full year, bringing our digital platform client count to 236. We now have 44 new clients in our implementation backlog representing 1,300,000 digital users. We exited the quarter with 17,500,000 registered users live on our digital banking platform, up 3,000,000 or 20% compared to last year. Over the last 12 months, registered user growth continues to be driven by 2 areas. Speaker 300:11:43First, the 37 financial institutions we implemented in 2023 represent 1,500,000 registered users and just over 27,000,000 of ARR, both of which exceeded the full year of 2022 by approximately 35%. 2nd, our existing clients increased their registered users by 1 point 5,000,000 demonstrating the market's focus to drive customer retention and growth through the digital banking platform. In terms of churn, for 2023, we did not experience any digital banking client churn and we expect to lose only 3 clients in 2024 representing less than 1% of our ARR. This compares to our expected long term average churn of 2% to 3%. We ended the year with an RPU of $16.63 which is 7% higher than last year driven by add on sales success and the addition of new clients who tend to onboard with a higher average RPU. Speaker 300:12:44We continue to see healthy demand across our product portfolio. During 2023, we signed 39 digital banking platform clients of which 16 were signed during the Q4. Our new client wins reflect solid representation from banks with 12 signed during 2023. In addition, 14 of our signed new clients adopted ACH Alert, while 22 adopted segment demonstrating the importance acquisitions can play in building out our platform and creating a competitive advantage. Our add on sales focus continues to yield results representing 35% of total new sales for 2023. Speaker 300:13:24In addition to add on sales, our client sales team is responsible for client contract renewals. During the year, we renewed 31 client relationships where we raised the ARR run rate 6% through a combination of new product sales and committed client growth. And finally, our remaining purchase obligation or contract backlog reached $1,100,000,000 almost 4 times our ARR and 28% higher than a year ago. Now turning to gross margin and profitability. For the Q4 of 2023, non GAAP gross margin was 60.3 percent representing 3.90 basis points of expansion when compared to the prior year quarter. Speaker 300:14:11Gross margin expansion resulted from improvement in our hosting cost per registered user combined with operating leverage across our post sale operations such as our implementation, support and site reliability engineering teams. We continue to scale post sale operations while delivering the previously mentioned higher level of output. As a reminder, our 2026 target operating model is a non GAAP gross margin of 65% as we continue to scale our revenue. Moving to operating expenses. For the Q4 of 2023, non GAAP R and D expense was 17,300,000 percent of revenue, 5.30 basis points lower than the year ago quarter. Speaker 300:14:56We are achieving operational scale while investing in our platform to drive future efficiency, best in class reliability and innovate new products and functionality. Our target operating model is to leverage R and D to 20% of revenue by 2026 while we continue to invest and expand our platform. Non GAAP sales and marketing expense is $10,000,000 or 14% of revenue in line with the prior year. We continue to achieve a high level of sales team productivity and go to market efficiency. For example, during 2023, we increased our ARR just under $65,000,000 while investing $41,000,000 in sales and marketing, representing an efficiency ratio of 1.6:one for ARR creation to sales and marketing investment. Speaker 300:15:47We expect to maintain or slightly improve our go to market efficiency as we scale the business and gain market share. As you consider 2024, keep in mind we will host our annual client conference in the Q2, which results in approximately 2,000,000 dollars to $2,500,000 of higher spin than other quarters of the year. Non GAAP general and administrative expenses were $13,500,000 or 19 percent of revenue. In the prior year quarter, G and A was approximately 21% of revenue. The margin expansion is primarily attributable to revenue scale. Speaker 300:16:27As we closely manage G and A expenses, we expect to achieve 10% to 12% as a percentage of revenue as we move towards our 2026 profitability objectives. Our adjusted EBITDA for the 4th quarter was $3,100,000 which is an improvement of over $7,000,000 when compared to the prior year quarter. We are very pleased with our 2023 adjusted EBITDA progression. As a reminder, we've established a 2026 adjusted EBITDA margin objective of 20%. We expect our path to 20% will occur at a pace of roughly 700 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion per year. Speaker 300:17:10Now moving to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with just over $92,000,000 of cash and marketable securities. During Q4, we retired our term debt of just over $82,000,000 Our credit facility revolver remains undrawn and provides $60,000,000 dollars of borrowing capacity. Now turning to guidance. For the Q1 of 2024, we are providing guidance for revenue in the range of $74,500,000 to $76,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $2,500,000 to 3,500,000 dollars For the full year of 2024, we are providing guidance for revenue in the range of $327,000,000 to $333,000,000 representing growth of 24% to 26% and adjusted EBITDA guidance of $20,000,000 to 23,000,000 dollars Additionally, because of the impact of expense timing such as our client conference as I mentioned earlier, we expect the 2nd quarter to be the low point of our adjusted EBITDA in 2024 modestly lower than the Q1 of the year and consistent with the long term seasonality of our 2nd quarter expenses. Speaker 300:18:20In summary, 2023 was a great year for Alchemy, a year of strong performance where we achieved a record level of new sales from both new client wins and add on sales, added a record number of digital users to our digital banking platform and meaningfully improved our profitability profile by exiting the year with gross margin over 60% and continuing a trend of positive adjusted EBITDA. We remain confident that we are well positioned to achieve our 2026 financial objective of 20% adjusted EBITDA margin. Our confidence is derived from exceptional visibility and a track record of execution and scale across all areas of the business. We exit the Q4 with strong momentum and look forward to delivering another great year in 2024. With that, I'll hand the call to the operator for questions. Operator00:19:15Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question session. And your first question comes from the line of Mayank Tandon from Needham. Your line is open. Speaker 400:19:50Thank you. Good evening, Brian and Alex. I wanted to start with a question on the bank market. As you compete for banks in the SMB space, I just want to get a sense of what the competitive landscape looks like? What are your win rates in that market? Speaker 400:20:07And who are you taking share from? Are they the legacy incumbents or some of the other digital centric players that might have secured that market some years ago, but now are maybe coming upon renewals and maybe losing market share to cloud data solution like yours? Speaker 200:20:23Yes, thanks for the question. This is Alex. The pattern match is very similar to the early days of the credit union market, where these clients have a legacy digital platform that might be 10 or 15 years old. And so we are replacing those legacy platforms that are 10 or 15 years old with a more modern experience. What they're realizing is that kind of 2 things. Speaker 200:20:541, even though they're serving businesses, those businesses are made of people and those people have an expectation of a more modern experience in any of the technology that they're using. The second thing that they're realizing is that some of the legacy technology creates a pretty big overhead on their own internal operations and that a more modern platform can create some efficiencies for them internally. But the short answer is we're replacing 10 to 15 year old technology just like we did in the early days of our participation in the credit union market. Speaker 400:21:43That's very helpful, Alex. And then maybe just turning to the financials. And Brian, maybe you talked about this, but just trying to look at the revenue growth that you guided to. How does that break down between ARPU expansion and obviously user growth being the main engine? Just want to get a sense of the balance between the 2 key drivers of underlying growth? Speaker 300:22:05Yes. No, that's great, Mayank. Our 2024 revenue guidance, it's very comparable to the longer term guide that we provided on revenue and as well as our profitability objective. And what we continue to say is we've got a company, we've developed a model, we have a market that can sustain a 25% growth rate, which is the midpoint of our guidance. And how we achieve that from year to year is a combination of 2 things. Speaker 300:22:36We would expect to add between 18% to 20% from users to the platform and 5% to 7% coming from ARPU expansion. The users that we add to the platform will first come from the new logo backlog that we have entering the year. So we have 1,300,000 digital users in backlog. We have 44 financial institutions in backlog and we expect to implement approximately 40 of those this year. The balance will come from our clients growing their users. Speaker 300:23:09So in 2023, our clients grew their users 10%, in 2022 slightly higher than 10%. So we expect that we'll continue at that 10% existing client user rate. As it relates to ARPU expansion, 2 areas of that we derive expansion in 2024 and really beyond, One is add on sales. Add on sales is now approximately 35% of the total contract value that we sell in each year. We think over time we can increase that to a level of 50%. Speaker 300:23:43But ARPU expansion primarily comes from add on sales into the existing base. And then finally, what we're identifying is as we have more products to sell, our sales team on the new client win side, they're selling more products on the initial order. So in 2023, on average, we had 18 products per order. We had over 14 clients that had 20 plus products. So there's a greater adoption of products on the initial order. Speaker 300:24:13If you went back a year, it was 17 products, a year before that it was 15, and the year before that it was 12. So we're seeing good momentum in the number of products that are being taken on the initial order, which also has the impact of expanding ARPU over time. Speaker 400:24:29That's very helpful color. Thank you so much. Operator00:24:35And your next question comes from the line of Andrew Schmidt from Citi. Your line is open. Speaker 500:24:44Hey, Alex, hey, Brian, Steve. Good quarter here. Good consistent results. Thanks for taking my questions. The ARR, I think it was up 29% exiting the year, the live ARR. Speaker 500:24:57Yet the I think the revenue outlook, as you mentioned before, Brian, 25% at the midpoint. Maybe you can help us just reconcile that. It seems like ARR is obviously a good indicator, but any help there would be great. Thanks so much. Speaker 300:25:12Yes. So when we provide guidance 1 quarter out, Andrew, it's a very predictable revenue model. So we generally have between 97% to 98% ARR coverage on the subscription revenue that we're going to deliver in the next quarter. And then also what we know, and we know this with a pretty high degree of certainty, again, providing us the visibility and predictability of the model is the number of clients that will launch in the quarter. So the clients that will take live out of backlog and then also really what's been scheduled for the full year. Speaker 300:25:53So that's a very known item for us as well. And so then the final areas that can provide revenue lift over time is our ability to sell more product from an add on sales perspective into the base and the speed at which we implement that. So that's the variables that we have that can drive the revenue growth. Speaker 500:26:17All right. Thank you, Brian. Maybe then just a product question. I think, Alex, you mentioned commercial product, big initiative this year is to sort of continue to iterate and improve that. Maybe talk a little bit about where you're at today in terms of business sizes you serve, the functionality and then some of the things that you're going to be doing this year to reiterate that? Speaker 500:26:39Obviously, big focus on deposit gathering, it seems like it could be well received in the market, but any help there would be great. Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:26:48Thanks. The feedback that we've had from customers that we've signed in the bank market with respect to our commercial offering is that they're attracted to our commercial offering, but with some of their more sophisticated customers, they have, just call it in the payments area, they just have wire capability that they'd like to see us improve our sophistication on. So generally, as I mentioned in the call, external study, we get really great coverage on the product. When our customers look at the product and then look at their more sophisticated customers, they're saying, boy, Alchemy, there's a couple of things you could do to help me with our more sophisticated customers. The second area is their customers that have more complex ownership interlocks, if you will, where one person might own 3 or 4 different LLCs and they might share those LLCs with different folks and they might have bookkeepers that operate against different entities. Speaker 200:28:05And so that's something that we've built in the back half of the year, once again from customer feedback to say, I need a better way to allow these sophisticated I would say not sophisticated, but more complicated entities to be able to access the right businesses in the digital channel. So in summary, their ownership structures and certain areas of payments like wire processing. Speaker 500:28:46Got it. Thank you very much, Alex. Good Speaker 200:28:49morning. We're at a pretty fine grain level now when you start talking about having 92% of coverage on the product. We're starting to get to a pretty fine grain level in terms of what we need to work on. Speaker 500:29:02Got it. Thanks, Alex. Appreciate the comments. Operator00:29:09And your next question comes from the line of Jacob Stefan from Lake Street. Your line is open. Speaker 600:29:17Hey, guys. Congrats on the results and strong finish to the year here. I just want to touch on the non renewals that you pointed out. What is this a factor of? Are these customers switching to a competitor or are these more just acquisitions in the F5 space? Speaker 300:29:38Yes. So the 3 financial institutions that we know are not renewing and leaving us in 2024, 2 of those are pretty small financial institutions that are going through a core conversion and they've selected cores that are more esoteric in nature that we will never build integration to. There's not a density of financial institutions on those cores for the investment to the right return of investment for us. The third one is the result of the financial institution being acquired. Generally for Alchemy, we've been the beneficiary from merger and acquisitions of financial institutions. Speaker 300:30:26But in this case, we are not the our financial institutions that's our client is not the acquirer and they're moving to the digital banking platform of the acquiring financial institution. Speaker 600:30:41Okay. And then, it sounds like the mix of banks and implementation backlog is shifting kind of above the onethree banks, the twothree credit union, like it has been over the last couple of quarters. But maybe you could just kind of talk about what you're seeing there? Is there any difference in implementation times for a bank versus a credit union? Speaker 300:31:07Yes. I'll jump in and take this one and Alex you can add as you fulfill it. The implementation time for a bank is slightly longer than a credit union today. So our credit unions are averaging depending on the number of integrations and the complexity and the size, but they average between 8 months 9 months. A bank, the implementation lift is it's more hands on. Speaker 300:31:33There's more client specificity of the financial institution that's involved in the implementation effort like around delegation of authority, roles and rights and wires and those types of things implemented as well. So that tends to extend the implementation out a bit longer. What's cool about 2023 is we added integration into 3 new cores, 2 of those were in the 4th quarter. So now we have integration into 8 bank core systems and there's 2 or 3 more that we feel like we need to build over time to have great coverage of the bank side of the market. Speaker 200:32:22Maybe I would just add to that. For clarity, when we say we added integration, that means that customer went live. So this wasn't something that we sold. This is the customer is live on a core. These two cores are critical to our long term bank strategy. Speaker 200:32:41And what we tend to see is that there's a bit of logarithmic curve on effort that it takes to do an integration, where after about the 5th integration, the 5th time that we do an integration, then we're at a steady state of the integration effort. So we were really pleased to get these 2 clients live on these 2 brand new bank course for us, which open up a pretty big chunk of the market. Speaker 300:33:10And just to get more direct on the backlog, the 17 bank financial institutions in our backlog, we expect to implement 13 of those in 2024 and we had 7 bank implementations in 2023. So we're starting to see more productivity and see a greater number of bank financial institutions come live on our platform. Speaker 600:33:37Okay, very helpful. Thank you. Operator00:33:43And your next question comes from the line of Pat Walravens from Citizens JMP. Your line is open. Speaker 500:33:51Great. Thank you. Hey, Alex, can I ask sort of big picture, what are the biggest challenges facing your banking clients in 2024? And how might that be different than 2023? And then the same question on the credit union side. Speaker 200:34:12Yes, I would say for both, it's obviously continuing to attract and retain deposits in the environment, which creates a pretty heavy focus on digital account opening or call it frictionless account opening. And that could be an account opening of an existing customer or member who is buying a new product or it could be the acquisition of a new customer. I think, Pat, the thing that folks are starting to understand and I wouldn't necessarily say, hey, it's a big challenge in 'twenty four, but it is a challenge that they're starting to address is if you think about a regional or community financial institution, bank or credit union, there's 5 systems that you have to have to run that bank or that credit union, just like if you were an airline, you'd have to have a reservation system. You have to have a core system. You have to have a digital banking system. Speaker 200:35:20You have to have payments capability. You have to have lending capability. You have to have fraud management. Now if you're Bank of America, you would add to that your data platform and your data capability. You would consider that the skills that you have in your organization to manage data, which is obviously the engine for any kind of artificial intelligence, you would consider that to be as critical as the other 5 systems. Speaker 200:35:49What we're starting to see in our customer base is a recognition that they're having to start to build the skills from a data perspective to allow them to compete with the mega bank. So kind of twofold answer, Pat. 1 is to continue to attract deposits and continue to be able to in a frictionless manner offer new products and onboard customers. But then more strategically, they're realizing that they've got to start building some skills and capabilities that they don't have today to be able to compete with the mega banks. Speaker 500:36:27Great context. Thank you. Operator00:36:33Your next question from the line of Alexia from JPMorgan. Your line is open. Speaker 700:36:41Hi. This is Elise Kenner on for Alexia Gogolev. So you kind of touched on this earlier, talking about the ratio of net new ARR to sales and marketing spend and how you aim to get that to, I believe you said, around 1.6. And I know you provided some color on what that entails, but could just kind of go into more detail on how you plan to get there? Thank you. Speaker 200:37:02The question was and I'll repeat it maybe. Was it around the target operating model in 2026? Speaker 700:37:11Yes. About getting to the 1.6 ratio of net new ARR and sales and marketing spend? Thank you. Speaker 300:37:20Yes. So when we think about 2026 and sales and marketing as a percent of revenue, so ultimately driving to our 20 percent adjusted EBITDA, we believe that we'll continue to maintain a consistent level of efficiency that we have today. So in other words, to continue to generate the new client wins and cross sell activity, our investment dollars will be comparable in sales and marketing to our revenue growth. And so by 2026, we'll still be between a 14% of revenue to 15% of revenue contribution from that component of operating expenses. In order to achieve that, we'll maintain a 1 point 5 to in 2024, it's a 1.6 of ARR creation to sales and marketing expense. Speaker 300:38:18Other areas that are equally as important is we would expect to continue to leverage our R and D down to 20% of revenue and we're doing that from a couple of different areas. One is revenue scale. 2nd is continued efficiency within our engineering group and our product group as well as some offshoring activity that we began in 2023. And then finally, G and A, we would expect to be at a 10% to 12% of revenue by 2026. That's primarily coming from just expense management and scaling our G and A line as our revenue grows. Speaker 200:39:06So Alexi, the 1.6 to 1 ARR creation to sales and marketing investment is what we're achieving today. So that's not a future target that we're somehow growing into. That's what we achieved in 2023. Speaker 700:39:26Okay, got it. Thank you. Operator00:39:31And your next question comes from the line of Charles Snappen from Stephens. Your line is open. Speaker 800:39:38Hi, guys. Good evening and thank you for taking my question. I know the new business gets a lot of airtime, but I was hoping you could comment on some of the trends you're seeing in your renewal business, specifically in terms of your ability to upsell upon renewal as well as any pricing trends you're seeing when the contracts come up? Speaker 300:40:01The renewal class in 2023 was pretty phenomenal. So we renewed 31 clients and we renewed 20 of those in the Q4. In all of 2022, we renewed 20 clients. So we're seeing more renewals. And as those are occurring, we're seeing a nice uplift of about 6% upon renewal that's coming from a couple of different areas. Speaker 300:40:26It's cross selling new product into the client account and then it's also the client signing up for additional minimum commitments that increase over the new renewal period. It's those two components that are driving the uplift in renewals that we're seeing. And then also in February, as Alex mentioned in his prepared comments, which was a very nice renewal for us was our largest client, which is a top 10 credit union. And when you compare the contract value of this client to the original contract that they signed 6 years ago, the value of that contract has more than doubled. Speaker 800:41:05That's great. Appreciate that color. And as a follow-up, just had a financials question and apologies in advance if you touched on this already, but could you talk about the gross margin assumptions embedded in your 2024 guide? I know historically you've talked about 200 to 300 bps of margin expansion. Imagine it will be somewhere in that range, but you also have some kind of balancing investment with efficiency. Speaker 800:41:31So any comments you can make on cadence and how we should think about that expansion on a quarterly basis would be helpful as well. Speaker 300:41:39Yes, no, that's great. So, in 2024, we're going to experience 700 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. The way to think about that is 250 basis points will come roughly 250 basis points will come from gross margin and 4.50 basis points will come from OpEx. The gross margin leverage that we're experiencing, a good component of that is coming from investments that we're making in our platform that continue to drive down our cost per registered user in terms of the hosting costs that we pay to AWS. The other areas where we're seeing nice operating leverage is in the post sale operations of our business. Speaker 300:42:25So implementation, site reliability engineering and our support functions. All of those functions are experiencing operational efficiency that's contributing to the year over year gross margin expansion. When we and I know you didn't ask this, but when we drop down to OpEx, the majority of about 2 thirds of the operating expense efficiency will come from G and A and the balance will be split evenly between R and Operator00:43:08Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Chris Kennedy from William Blair. Your line is open. Speaker 400:43:15Good afternoon and thanks for taking the question. Alex, you touched on the importance of data. Can you just talk about kind of what you're doing to leverage the data that's on your platform? Speaker 200:43:29Yes, thanks. For us from the very beginning when Alchemy was created, there was the notion that storing the transactional data could be useful for the financial institution. And then we and we built some technology to do that. And then we took a pretty big step forward with an acquisition somewhere before last, I'm looking at Brian. April 22. Speaker 200:43:59April 22 with an acquisition of April 22, which is a company with a modern data platform. And if you think about what capability we had that company, which is now part of Alchemy, had the ability to ingest, cleanse, contextualized transactional data from lots of different legacy bank cores. And then you combine that with the information, the transactional information that's coming out of a digital banking application. So now across that surface area, we have transactional data that we can analyze from more accounts than probably anybody but Bank of America right now. And so if you think about a topic like artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence is good data plus different types of models. Speaker 200:45:00You could have a retrieval model, you could have a classification model, you could have a predictive model. And so, what we're able to do with our customers is have this great data set that we've been able to do a lot of machine learning against that helps them classify their customers or members into demographic groups that allows them to target better And then also has a predictive model in it, so that it can say for them this demographic group, you ought to make this offer for. So in summary, we think that data capability is the long term differentiator for digital banking. And we had both our own organic build from the very beginning of the company, then supplemented that with a really great acquisition in April of 2022 that results in a data platform that's got an immense amount of transactions that we can do machine learning against and apply both classification models and predictive models to help customers. And I'll turn to Brian because we actually saw a lot of success in cross selling that product and in selling that product with our new logos this last year. Speaker 300:46:23That's right. So this was definitely a differentiator for us as it related to new client wins. We had 22 of the 39 new clients that we sold in 2024 that adopted the segment marketing and analytics product that Alex was referring to. Speaker 400:46:46Great. Thanks for taking the question. Operator00:46:52And your next question comes from the line of Adam Hajuszkas from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Speaker 800:46:59Great. Thanks for taking my questions. It would be great to talk a little bit about the broader industry. And Alex and Brian, what you're hearing your customer conversations around bank IT budgets for the year, anything to call out there? Speaker 200:47:14Yes. Like I said in my in some of my remarks, the priority for the customers that I talk to are around really 3 big things. 1 is reducing friction. So how can they take an end to end new customer, new member or existing customer member looking for a new product? How can they take the friction out of that experience? Speaker 200:47:45Number 2 is fraud. Fraud is huge on their minds. It was interesting, we had our customer advisory board together a few months ago and we kind of created a decision framework for them to try to understand where they were leaning. For so many years, so much of what they asked us to do was to improve their customer or member experience and do certain things that would make a really great customer or member experience. Some of those things have the ability to create a threat vector. Speaker 200:48:18And so, what we were asking them is, how do you think about things today? Do you still leaning into customer member experience? Are you more leaning into fraud management? 100% of them said, boy, I'm willing to give up some of the customer or member experience to fight fraud because fraud is just is really becoming a big deal for me. And then finally, modern money movement, right? Speaker 200:48:43Obviously, as the generations change, if you look at something like a bill pay, it looks a lot like a checkbook. And so what our customers have asked us to do that we've built for them is, can I have a much more modern looking money movement place where somebody comes in and they're selecting between 4 or 5 different options of how they can move money as opposed to going to 3 or 4 different applications that are unintegrated? So any kind of friction reduction, digital account opening, any kind of ease of buying a product, any a lot of investment around fraud and fraud management and the discussion of the nuances between the balancing of a good experience with fighting fraud and then providing a more modern payment experience. Speaker 300:49:40And Adam, with the innovation that's occurring through the digital banking platform that Alex was describing, that's the driver in the market. That's the tailwind in the market for companies like Alchemy to pick up the number of new clients and the digital users that we're picking up. The current providers in the space are not keeping up with the mega banks and some of the super regional banks and what they're investing through their digital banking platform. And that's what requires the end market to look at more of a contemporary provider of services in the space such as an Alchemy, which has been the fitting us in the market share that we're gaining. Speaker 800:50:22Got it. Thanks. That's all really useful color. And can you just remind us, what the typical product roadmap looks like for a bank versus a credit union? And how that land and expand motion differs between the 2? Speaker 800:50:34Just curious if there's anything you've learned as some of your earlier bank cohorts have matured a bit? Speaker 300:50:40So we're pretty early in the early innings of penetrating the bank market. And it really depends on the bank financial institution. So if it's a bank financial institution that's heavy leaning into commercial clients and commercial deposits, then the primary difference between a credit union and a bank is the commercial banking offering. As it relates to the retail side, if it's a bank financial institution that's predominantly growing and has a strategy more focusing on retail clients, it looks very similar to a credit union. So not a lot of differences there. Speaker 200:51:20Maybe you can comment Brian on just what we're seeing from an ARPU perspective between a new logo bank and a new logo credit union. Speaker 300:51:30Sure. So and the best way to look at that is to unpack our backlog that we have going into the year. So 44 financial institutions, 1,300,000 digital users and the ARPU on our backlog going into 2024 is around $26 A bank financial institution or the banks that we have in our backlog and there's 17 of them, they're averaging $31 per user compared to the credit unions which are $23 per user. Even the $23 per user on the credit union side of our backlog, that's a significant up lift above where the company's blended averages. What's driving that is the number of our products that are being adopted on the MSA and on the original sale. Speaker 300:52:17As I mentioned earlier, on average now our clients are adopting 18 products on the original order compared to 17 a year ago, 15 a year before that, so much different. But what's driving the increase between a bank and a credit union is predominantly the commercial banking platform and commercial banking application that they'll take. Speaker 800:52:43Really great color. Thanks a lot, Brian. Thanks, Alex. Operator00:52:49And your next question comes from the line of Saket Kalia from Barclays. Your line is open. Speaker 900:52:57Okay, great. Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions here. A nice quarter. Speaker 300:53:01Hey Saket. Speaker 900:53:02Hey, Alex. Hey, Brian. Hey, listen, sorry in advance if these questions have been asked, but maybe first for you, Brian, on the ARPU point, the revenue per user, that really stood out to me this quarter. And you just touched on sort of the add on sales motion really adding more product to the existing base. Can we just talk about maybe 1 or 2 of those additional products that are most substantial to sort of that ARPU lift? Speaker 300:53:33Well, we're seeing a lot of product adoption is really in 4 areas in 2023 and those are pretty consistent with 2022. So in the money movement area of our platform, we're seeing nice cross sell activity that's happening also in the customer service area, which is where you'll see some machine learning type of products that come through like chatbots and those type of things. Security and fraud is an area where we're having some pretty strong cross sell activity. A lot of that's being driven by our ACH Alert acquisition from a couple of years ago. And then of course segment, that's contributing a lot on the marketing side of our platform and driving some adoption there. Speaker 300:54:21All those products that I just mentioned or those product family groups, those are what I would refer to as more of a richer RPU set compared to some of the other product groups that we have. Speaker 900:54:35Got it. That makes sense. Alex, maybe for my follow-up for you, a lot of focus, a lot of success in the bank vertical here. And I think you made some comments earlier just on the pipeline. I'm curious, how is sort of the win rate in that vertical evolved? Speaker 900:54:52And do you feel like you're getting the reference enough reference customers to sort of to help that discussion to shorten the sales cycles going forward. Anything on that win rate and sort of sales cycles, if you will? Speaker 200:55:05Yes. From a market perspective, one of the things that we measure is what is the awareness of us as a provider and that's something that we continue to try to move forward. We still have room to go there. We are consistently number 1 or 2 in the credit union market in terms of a buyer being aware that they should consider Alchemy. We're currently number 7 in the bank market. Speaker 200:55:36So we still we're building a new business in that market and so we're still making progress in terms of general awareness. We had I think we talked about this in the last call, probably a year to a year and a half ago, we had a really win rate in the bank market, but we didn't have a lot of that. And we said to ourselves, we it's probably not good news. We actually need to see the win rate come down, which means we'll have more at bats. So we have more at bats this year, the win rate came down and that is a result of being more well known now in the bank market. Speaker 200:56:19So in summary, we have room to go to become known as a provider in the bank market and we're working on that. We got more at bats this year than we had last year. And so year over year, the win rate went down as a result of the increased at bats. Speaker 300:56:37Yes. And second, when we look at the bank market, there's a lot of factors that drive success there. It's not just at least at this stage, it's not just the number of new clients that we're adding, it's how are we moving the product, What's the product market fit? And as Alex mentioned earlier in the call and some prepared comments is we had a consultant come in and they evaluated our commercial offering and we feel like we're 90%, 92% there in having the right product to reach a broad set of bank financial institutions and we're going to close the remaining gap in 2024. Also it's the core integrations that you have. Speaker 300:57:20We now have core integration into 8 bank core systems. There's probably 2 to 3 more that we need to add to even provide greater density, but we're making a lot of progress in adding additional Bancorp integrations. And then, unaided awareness or share of voice, however you want to describe that, what Alex was just describing, If you go back 2 years ago, we were only in 20 bank deals. In 2022, we were in about 45 or so. In 2023, that moved up to over 60. Speaker 300:57:56So now we're being invited to more deals that results in a lower win rate. But as all 3 or 4 of these factors come together, that's ultimately how we'll forge success moving forward with the objective by 2026. When you look at our new the composition of the new clients that we sell in 2026, our view is half of those would be credit unions and half of those would be bank financial institutions. Speaker 200:58:22I'll just probably summarize to say, there's a management team here that has been in companies that have entered markets. And what we understand is that you can't learn to swim in the front yard. And so you decide to go into market and you go start attacking that market and then you understand what you need to take as a next step. And so we're exactly where we expect it to be at this point in time in terms of building in the bank market. We know what to do next with products, with skills, with awareness, with marketing. Speaker 200:58:54We're really pleased with the progress. Speaker 900:58:57Got it. Really nicely done. Thanks guys. Operator00:59:03Thank you. And our Q and A session has now ended. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by