NASDAQ:GEHC GE HealthCare Technologies Q4 2023 Earnings Report $78.71 +0.55 (+0.70%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$78.66 -0.05 (-0.07%) As of 07:58 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast GE HealthCare Technologies EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.18Consensus EPS $1.07Beat/MissBeat by +$0.11One Year Ago EPS$1.31GE HealthCare Technologies Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$5.20 billionExpected Revenue$5.09 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$106.40 millionYoY Revenue Growth+5.30%GE HealthCare Technologies Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date2/6/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, February 6, 2024Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsGE HealthCare Technologies' Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, October 29, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by GE HealthCare Technologies Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 6, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Q4 revenues of $5.2 billion grew 5% organically year-over-year, full-year organic growth was 8%, and the company exited with a record backlog of $19.1 billion. Introduced 2024 guidance calling for approximately 4% organic revenue growth, adjusted EBIT margin of 15.6–15.9%, EPS of $4.20–$4.35, and about $1.8 billion in free cash flow. Invested over $1 billion in R&D in 2023, launched more than 40 new innovations, and topped the FDA’s list with 58 AI-enabled device authorizations. Completed acquisitions of Caption Health and Imactis and announced plans to acquire MIM Software to enhance AI-enabled image analysis and workflow tools. Forecasts China revenue to decline in the first half of 2024 due to anti-corruption measures and tough year-ago comps, though expects a rebound in the second half. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallGE HealthCare Technologies Q4 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to GE Healthcare's 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker, Carolyn Borders, Chief Investor Relations Officer. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:40Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to GE Healthcare's 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. I'm joined by our President and CEO, Peter Arduini and our Vice President and CFO, Jay Siccaro. Our conference call remarks will include both GAAP and non GAAP financial results. Reconciliations between GAAP and non GAAP measures can be found in today's press release and in the presentation slides available on our website. Speaker 100:01:09During this call, we'll make forward looking statements about our performance. These statements are based on how we see things today. As described in our SEC filings, Actual results may differ materially due to risks and uncertainties. And with that, I'll hand the call over to Peter. Speaker 200:01:26Thanks, Carolyn. Let me start by providing a few highlights from a successful 1st year as a public company. I'm proud of how our teams executed to deliver robust financial results with performance that all met or exceeded guidance. In fact, our execution throughout the year allowed us to raise guidance twice. We've continued to increase our R and D investment, launching over 40 new innovations tied to our care pathway and digital strategy. Speaker 200:01:56As a result of our investments, We estimate that we've gained global market share in equipment in 2023. And once again, we topped the FDA's list of AI enabled device authorizations with 58 more than any other medtech company. With 58 more than any other medtech company. Backlog remains robust, led by an improved capital equipment landscape And we significantly strengthened our balance sheet as we paid down $1,000,000,000 in debt since the beginning of Q4. Our financial flexibility enables us to drive both organic and inorganic investment such as the Caption Health and Immactis acquisitions completed in 2023. Speaker 200:02:37More recently, we announced our plans to acquire MIM software, which I'll discuss in greater detail later in the call. We continue to build our position as a trusted partner and here are a few highlights from throughout the year. On the commercial side, we secured multi year enterprise deals globally with contract values totaling approximately $2,500,000,000 in 2023 fueling our growth. We also expanded our 40 year with the University of Wisconsin Madison by entering a 10 year strategic collaboration that goes beyond medical imaging to new frontiers and digital technologies and disease focused solutions. Separately, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and BARDA, a division within the U. Speaker 200:03:24S. Department of Health and Services, Our funding programs totaling over $80,000,000 that will allow us to develop new AI applications for ultrasound benefit patients in low and middle income countries and patients with lung pathologies and traumatic injuries. We also announced a collaboration with Novo Nordisk to advance the clinical and product development of peripheral focused ultrasound. We've assembled a strong world class leadership team. Jay Saccaro joined us last year and has had an immediate impact. Speaker 200:04:00He's had the opportunity to assess our organizational needs, forecasting models, financial systems and processes and is adding significant strategic and operational value. Similarly, Tah joined us as Chief Technology Officer more than a year ago And he's been charting our digital future and strategy, while building a high performing team of top healthcare technology experts. In 2023, we published our inaugural sustainability report, highlighting our progress and commitment to corporate responsibility and risk management. Lastly, we introduced 2024 guidance today, which Jay will discuss in greater detail. Our outlook reflects an improved capital equipment landscape. Speaker 200:04:44It also reflects continued strength on top of 2 consecutive years of high single digit organic sales growth. Similar to last quarter, we conducted a survey of a broad set of U. S. Customers, which supports our forecast for 2024. Our latest survey showed improved financial optimism and capital budget outlook versus the last survey in October. Speaker 200:05:09Global procedures remain strong, which we believe all of this points to a constructive setup for the year. Now I'll pass the call on to Jay to take us through the financials and our business performance, and I'll conclude the call with a discussion around our R and D commitments and the innovation we're delivering for customers. Jay? Speaker 300:05:29Thanks, Pete. Let's start with our financial performance on Slide 4. For the Q4 of 2023, revenues of $5,200,000,000 increased 5% year over year and grew 5% organically. This was driven by sales in pharmaceutical diagnostics, imaging and patient care solutions. Recall that this 5% organic growth was on top of the 13% we delivered in the Q4 of 2022, which benefited from easing supply chain. Speaker 300:06:03Organic orders increased 3% year over year. Order dollars continue to outpace sales, leading to a total company book to bill of 1.05 times, up sequentially from 1.03x due to healthy product orders including equipment. We exited the year with a record backlog of $19,100,000,000 up $700,000,000 sequentially. This performance gives us continued confidence in our expectations for 2024. 4th quarter adjusted EBIT margin was 16.1%. Speaker 300:06:40Sequentially, margin improved 70 basis points, supported by seasonally higher volume, while we expanded our investments in future innovation. Year over year standalone adjusted EBIT margin was flat as benefits from productivity and price were offset primarily by investments. The lean methodology is at the foundation of our productivity, yielding strong performance in the Q4 with improvements in logistics, sourcing and services. Our teams came together to increase on time delivery to our customers by 11% year over year With lean actions improving demand forecast accuracy, supplier planning and lead times, we also saw a path to backlog efficiency with a greater than 50% improvement year over year in imaging alone. For the Q4, we delivered adjusted EPS of $1.18 up 11% on a standalone basis. Speaker 300:07:41Free cash flow of $956,000,000 was down slightly year over year. This was impacted by approximately $330,000,000 of spin related items such as interest and post retirement benefit payments. Turning to our full year results on Slide 5. For 2023, revenues of $19,600,000,000 grew 8% organically versus last year. All of our regions and segments saw positive revenue growth. Speaker 300:08:14Also important to note, Recurring revenue, which drives revenue predictability and higher margin was greater than 45% of total revenues for the year. Organic orders grew 3% year over year and book to bill was 1.03 times. On a standalone basis, 2023 adjusted EBIT margin was up 60 basis points. Adjusted EPS of $3.93 exceeded our guidance and represented standalone growth of 16%. Free cash flow was more than $1,700,000,000 and translated into a strong conversion rate of 95%, which was ahead of our guidance for the year. Speaker 300:09:00This was driven by the solid progress we made in working capital associated with multiple initiatives on inventory and collections processes. On Slide 6, let's take a closer look at segment revenue performance for the year. For full year 2023, we delivered strong year over year organic growth of 8% for revenues. This was led by PDX with 18% growth, PCS at 8% and imaging at 7%, driven by both volume and price. Ultrasound organic revenue increased 2%. Speaker 300:09:37Recall that in 2022, We had multiple quarters of strong ultrasound results as supply chain constraints eased. I'd also note that all segments positive price in the year reflecting our continued pricing discipline. Looking ahead, we believe all of our segments are well positioned as we move into 2024 from both an innovation and operational perspective. I'll walk through more details on this for each segment shortly. Turning to the progress we made in 2023 on margin initiatives on Slide 7. Speaker 300:10:11As we move through the year, we drove sequential improvements in adjusted EBIT margin driven by volume, commercial execution and productivity. For the year, we increased adjusted gross margin by 120 basis points versus 2022 and delivered more than 3% in positive sales price for the year ahead of our expectations. In 2024, we expect 1 to 2 percentage points of positive price as we deliver increasing value to our customers. We're also starting to see margin expansion from improving volumes and higher margin NPIs given our continued R and D investment. For the year, we invested more than $1,000,000,000 in R and D, equating to over 6% of sales, all while expanding margins. Speaker 300:10:59In 2024, we expect to be in the same range as a percent of sales or slightly higher, supporting our innovative Shin pipeline. Our productivity initiatives have also gained traction as logistics costs continue to improve, spot buys decreased and as we implemented cost efficient design changes. We have also experienced improved labor productivity driven by a greater proportion of remote fix in the application of digital tools. Relative to G and A, we're optimizing our spend by rightsizing our real estate footprint and IT infrastructure to generate additional efficiencies. We made solid progress in exiting TSAs in 2023 with nearly 280 completed through the end of 4Q. Speaker 300:11:48We're on track to exit the vast majority of the remaining TSAs in 2024, which gives us confidence in our G and A optimization plans, an important part of reaching medium term margin goals. Given our progress across the organization, we have solid visibility to deliver on our high teens to 20% adjusted EBIT margin target over the medium term. Now I'll turn to our segments. As a reminder, in 2023, We incurred approximately $200,000,000 of recurring standalone costs that impact our segment EBIT margin rates. We did not have these expenses in 2022. Speaker 300:12:29These costs were allocated based on revenue and equated to approximately 100 basis points of margin headwind for each segment. Going forward, these costs will be in our run rate, but serve as an opportunity to operate more efficiently in the future. Let's start with our Imaging segment on Slide 8, where we generated organic revenue growth of 4% year over year. This was driven by improved backlog conversion and price. Growth was up against 4th quarter sales that experienced a strong double digit increase in 2022. Speaker 300:13:02Segment EBIT margin was up 10 basis points year over year as we made progress on enhancing gross margin. Imaging equipment growth outpaced service growth in the quarter and for the year, which impacted margin mix as we build our installed base with future service growth opportunity. We saw strong progress in our product platforming initiatives across several modalities, including CT and MR. Customer demand for our imaging product remains healthy and our growing backlog is driven by new product introductions. Turning to ultrasound on Slide 9, organic revenue was down 2% year over year due to the impact of lower volume Tied to a challenging comparison for the same period last year, we continue to have a positive outlook for this segment as we enter 2024. Speaker 300:13:54Segment EBIT margin declined year over year due to investments such as the Caption Health Artificial Intelligence Integration. This year over year margin decline was partially mitigated by cost productivity as we drove standardization and commonality across our platforms. As we exited the year, we saw opportunities for ultrasound equipment based on a combination of our commercial efforts and improving market conditions. With recent customer commitments and interest in new products enhanced by AI technology, We're well positioned as we enter 2024. Moving to Patient Care Solutions on Slide 10, organic revenue was up 4% driven by progress on price and operational process improvements. Speaker 300:14:39Revenue increased as we fulfill more backlog in addition to contribution from MPIs. Similar to imaging, recall that sales growth in the Q4 last year increased double digits due to an Easing supply chain environment. PCS margin decreased 3 20 basis points compared to last year, driven by investments and one time favorability that we experienced in the prior year. During the quarter, the team delivered on improved supplier lead times and lower inventory. As we look ahead, we're excited about recent product launches that should contribute to future growth. Speaker 300:15:17Finally, moving to Pharmaceutical Diagnostics on Slide 11, we had another solid quarter generating 23% year over year organic growth associated with an easier year over year comparison and pricing. Segment EBIT margin of 24.4% improved 100 40 basis points year over year driven by price, volume and productivity actions. We're encouraged by the continuing strength of global imaging procedures, which drives the need for imaging agents. We are executing on our innovation strategy through investments in our pipeline across care areas, including the in licensing of FAPI assets, which we believe will play a key role in targeting this protein to detect certain types of cancer. This is an area of significant potential for the nuclear medicine and oncology communities. Speaker 300:16:11Turning to Slide 12, I'll walk through our cash flow performance. We exited the year with an improved financial profile, including a stronger balance sheet and enhanced financial flexibility to support our future growth. We generated free cash flow of $956,000,000 during the 4th quarter, down $31,000,000 year over year with standalone cash outflows. Inventory turns improved in the quarter, the highest they have been since the beginning of 2021. This is the result of our lean supply chain actions. Speaker 300:16:47We saw operational improvements, including lead time reductions and greater inventory turns in all segments. Our aged inventory balance decreased and we have stronger input controls in place, including safety stock reduction and optimized stock planning. In addition, our collections improved as a result of our focused daily management system. For the year, we delivered strong free cash flow of over $1,700,000,000 This equates to 95% free cash flow conversion. We also strengthened our balance sheet by paying down $1,000,000,000 of debt since the start of the Q4. Speaker 300:17:25With a strong balance sheet and a balanced capital allocation strategy, We'll continue to focus on organic and inorganic investment, deleveraging and paying a dividend. Now let's turn to our outlook on Slide 13. For 2024, we expect organic revenue growth to be approximately 4%. This compares to strong growth of 8% in 2023 That was driven by easing supply chains and price gains. I would note that we expect foreign exchange headwind to revenue of less than 1% in 2024. Speaker 300:17:59We expect full year adjusted EBIT margin to be in the range of 15.6% to 15.9%, representing expansion of 50 basis points to 80 basis points, given the progress we're making with volume commercial execution and optimization. We assume an adjusted effective tax rate in the range of 23% to 25%. The Pillar 2 global minimum tax is not anticipated to have a significant impact on our tax expense in 2024. On adjusted EPS, we expect to deliver between $4.20 and $4.35 for the full year, representing growth in the range of 7% to 11% versus 2023. Lastly, we expect to deliver free cash flow of approximately $1,800,000,000 for the full year. Speaker 300:18:48While we don't give quarterly guidance, it's important to note that given the seasonal nature of our business, the 4th quarter is typically the strongest period for orders, sales dollars and adjusted EBIT margin. We expect year over year organic revenue growth and adjusted EBIT margin in the first quarter to be the lowest of the year. Also remember that organic sales growth in the first half of twenty twenty three was very strong at 11%. As a result, organic revenue growth is expected to be stronger in the second half of the year versus the first half in 2024. To wrap up, we're entering 2024 from a position of strength as we executed well in 2023. Speaker 300:19:38Our solid backlog, order intake and adjusted EBIT margin progress gives us confidence in our ability to deliver on our guidance for 2024. Now, I'll hand the call back over to Pete. Speaker 200:19:53Thanks, Jay. Through an emphasis on R and D, we continue to innovate across our 4 segments. Our new product vitality index, which measures new products contributing to orders in the year was healthy at 26%. We launched more than 40 new innovations in 23, as I noted before, many of which are AI and digitally enabled, bringing more opportunity to increase gross margin with these enhanced capabilities. Earlier, I mentioned our plans to acquire MIM Software, a leader in AI enabled image analysis and workflow tools across multiple care areas. Speaker 200:20:30Once integrated post close, MIM is expected to drive accretive top line growth And we expect the transaction to be neutral to adjusted EBIT in year 1 and accretive thereafter. One of the dilemmas our customers face is integrating the variety of multi vendor AI applications into their workflows. Our new app orchestrator is a solution that simplifies the AI selection, integration and workflow process for healthcare professionals. By providing easy access to pre validated apps, we're helping reduce the pressure that often comes with the overhead of evaluating, acquiring and implementing solutions from many companies. We're in the process of developing the subscription based application for the cloud. Speaker 200:21:19Our high growth, high margin AI solutions are designed to increase productivity, efficiency and diagnostic confidence. Customers have the option to purchase new AI equipped devices or as an upgrade to existing equipment. We're actively pursuing AI across our product portfolio with a focused effort to expedite product development in 2024. Moving to molecular imaging on Slide 15 and the role of MIM software to enhance our precision care strategy. For starters, our unique portfolio of pet MR, pet CT and multi head spec CT, radio tracers and digital offers providers a comprehensive solution to deliver on this growing field of diagnostics and therapeutics. Speaker 200:22:08As novel therapies become more widely available, our tracers play an increasingly important role, putting us at the center of this transformation of care that will help enable better patient outcomes across many care pathways as functional imaging expands. This chart illustrates the diversity of our pharmaceutical portfolio both existing and in the pipeline and the diseases that each one uniquely targets. We see growth opportunities with our existing products like Alzheimer's disease as new therapies ramp up and Suriana for metastatic breast cancer, which are used both in conjunction with pet systems for diagnosis. Flipuradaz, a pipeline product for diagnosing and assessing coronary artery disease is expected to significantly advance PETCT imaging. Cardiologists say it shows promise for a variety of reasons. Speaker 200:23:09First, it has the potential to offer more sensitivity and specificity than spec and technetium, which is the standard of care. Its longer half life may allow doses to be ordered and transported longer distances, unlike other products on the market, which require on-site production, which can be a limiting factor for smaller hospitals and cardiac imaging centers. One of the most exciting advancements in molecular and functional imaging is theranostics. There's a model for this rapidly growing field that it allows you to see what you treat and treat what you see. Theragnostics combines diagnostic imaging equipment, Radiopharmaceuticals, both diagnostics and therapeutic with a goal of eliminating cancer cells without affecting healthy tissues, and this has fewer side effects for patients. Speaker 200:24:03This approach can bring significant improvements for many cancer types and one of the reasons why molecular imaging has a very promising future. To give you some perspective, currently the overall theargostics market, which includes equipment, tracers and therapies is approximately $9,000,000,000 and is expected to grow to $40,000,000,000 by 2,032. Today, Theragnostics is primarily used in thyroid, neuroendocrine and prostate cancer. However, A growing pipeline of drugs across the industry for future applications include breast, ovarian, pancreatic and lung cancers show even more promise to potentially extend the length and quality of life for more patients. We expect to play an important role in the delivery of these new therapies. Speaker 200:24:53In the next 3 years, we plan to significantly increase our current Theranostics franchise through a combination of organic and inorganic expansions. And we're excited about the opportunity to be a trusted partner, helping our customers navigate this important and growing field of medical imaging. This mission to improve outcomes across care pathways will be enabled by our announced intention to acquire MIM. After close, we plan to integrate these new capabilities into GE Healthcare's devices to enhance imaging fusion, multimodal inputs for diagnostics, therapy planning and monitoring. And by leveraging these new tools across various care areas, we can differentiate our solutions for the benefit of patients and healthcare systems worldwide, particularly around Theragnostics. Speaker 200:25:45In closing, we're excited about the growth potential of molecular imaging and Theranostics as well as our pipeline pharmaceuticals and the collective opportunity for these innovations to enable PrecisionCare. To summarize on Slide 16, I'm extremely proud of our team's execution in 2023 and our focus on patients and customers, as well as the progress we've made as a standalone company. We achieved or exceeded our financial and operational objectives we laid out at the beginning of the year and we're making significant progress on the innovation front, including digital and artificial intelligence launches. We have a strong balance sheet that allows us to invest in new capabilities organically and we're excited about our momentum as we enter 2024. We remain on track to deliver on our medium term targets. Speaker 200:26:36With that, I'd like to open up the call for questions. Speaker 100:26:40Thank you, Peter. I'd like to ask participants to please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Operator, can you please open the line? Operator00:26:50Thank Speaker 400:27:02And that will come from Operator00:27:02the line of Craig Bijou with Bank of America. Your line is open. Speaker 200:27:07Good morning, Craig. Speaker 500:27:09Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Serge, I appreciate the comments on Q1. And I did want to dive a little bit Can you guys still grow revenues in Q1 given that you do have a pretty strong year over year comp? And then on the margin side, should we still expect margin expansion in Q1, but maybe it's at a rate a little bit lower than what you're expecting for the full year? Speaker 300:27:38Craig, that's right. Overall, as I said in my prepared remarks, the first half will be lower than the second half And the Q1 will be lower than the Q2. And really what this comes down to is the challenging comp that we saw in Q1 of last year. I believe we had 12% revenue growth, which was really a great performance in that quarter. Having said that, We still expect revenue growth in the Q1 and some level of margin expansion, albeit both of those lower than the full year rates. Speaker 500:28:14Got it. That's helpful. And as a follow-up, I did want to touch on China and the Anti Corruption Act. And Basically, want to get your sense for what's going on there and did you grow sales and orders in China in Q4? And how should we think about that in the early parts of 2024? Speaker 200:28:40Hey, Craig, it's Pete. Well, look, as you know, there's a lot of moving parts within China. We've talked a lot about this in the past. I think there's 3 things. I mean, there is clearly a focus by the government to expand capabilities in medical coverage and a lot of that comes down to our equipment, ultrasound, CT as a first part. Speaker 200:29:02The second thing is there was the stimulus funding from last year, which was in Q4 and affected in Q1 where we did actually very, very well from a share and a growth standpoint. And then we have anti corruption. What we've seen on the ground is it's not that consistent in many different ways, meaning that Certain provinces, there may be less than a fact, other provinces, there may be more. I think that's going to play out throughout the coming year. We believe overall that the approach to drive better compliance in a very large country is a good thing and that There isn't necessarily an end date as much as it's a new policy approach about how you do business. Speaker 200:29:41And for a company like us, it's kind of how we do business every country around the world. I think that lays it out that way. That being said, last year for us in China in the first half, we had a very strong first half. We grew over 20% organic in the first half of twenty twenty three. So we're actually expecting our growth to be negative year over year, that's contemplated in our guidance in the first half. Speaker 200:30:07And then in the second half resuming to growth. And so that's kind of how we profiled it and that's part of our 4% guidance that we've laid out. Longer term, We believe China again with a $1,400,000,000 getting quality services today and a $1,000,000,000 that need it is going to continue to be a growth market out into the future. But we've taken, I think, a prudent approach on how we take a look at no growth in the first half and then growth resuming in I can have. Speaker 500:30:40Thanks, guys. Speaker 600:30:42Thank you. Operator00:30:43Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 400:30:50And that will come from Operator00:30:51the line of Vijay Kumar with Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Speaker 200:30:56Hi, Vijay. Speaker 700:30:59Hi, Pete. Congrats on a nice print here and very good morning to you. My first high level on the guidance here, Pete, 4% organic seems reasonable given the tougher comps. Curious, what is the guide assuming for pricing? And the book to bill in Q4, 1.06, It kind of implies a capital book to bill was perhaps 1.08, 1.09. Speaker 700:31:25What is the relationship between When I look at those optical numbers of 1.08, 1.09 on capital versus revenues, right, is there a timing element Could perhaps 4% just looking at the book to bill, the 4% seems, it looks like it has some cushion. Speaker 300:31:43So maybe I'll talk first about the sales growth for the year and then talk a little bit about pricing because I think both of those were embedded in the question. Listen, we were very pleased with the performance to close out 2023. On a full year basis, we delivered 8% at the high end of the range, in fact, a little bit in excess of our expectations for the 4th quarter. And a lot of that came down to execution in terms of translating backlog into sales, which was a testament to all the work in many of our teams. And so, as we look at 2024, we think roughly 4% is a solid number. Speaker 300:32:26If we think about it, we feel really good about 2023. We think the setup is solid. We think the business has proven It's pretty durable. Amidst a lot of macroeconomic volatility in 2023, our business performed pretty well. And so as a result, we did put on some incremental orders in the Q4 in the last couple of months of 2023, which was ahead of our expectations, so as I said. Speaker 300:32:53And so, it's early in the year. There's a lot of dynamics in play, Pete talked about 1, but frankly, it's a volatile world that we're living in. And we set the 4% up. It's a really challenging comp, But it's set up with a very solid backlog, a solid book to bill ratio. And so hopefully things cooperate and we move through the year nicely. Speaker 300:33:16Pete, why don't you add to that and then we can talk about price. Speaker 200:33:19Yes. No, I would just say, I think you covered it, Jay, other than the fact to say that, look, we were super pleased with the order book performance. There's been obviously a reasonable amount of questions over this year about order and the translation to revenue, putting up strong orders growth in the 4th quarter, both service and equipment. And again, when you think about our orders book now being over $19,000,000,000 That obviously sets us up for more gas in the tank and later in Q4 in the second half of twenty twenty four. But it's also business that we have for multi year deals that gives us visibility into 2025 as well. Speaker 200:33:58And I think that's an important Back here, I mentioned $2,500,000,000 of multiyear enterprise deals, which we've been really ramping up our capability on. Not only does that help you in the current year, but it typically gives you 2 to 3 years visibility out of business that you're going to get that you don't need to win each year. And I think so for over the period of time here, we just feel very good. And again, I'm just very satisfied with the work that the team has done in the setup that we've had. And to Jay's point, we've tried to take into consideration all the different challenges that may be helping in the world and making sure that we've had the appropriate call to be able to deal with whatever parameters come our way. Speaker 300:34:40Vijay, as it relates to price, like I said, we were pleased with price in 2023. We delivered around 3% of price and a lot of that comes down to a cultural focus at our company in terms of selling value and appreciation of our customers of the value that we're bringing to the table. We are trying to innovate. You saw the R and D growth number in the quarter. We really are trying to accelerate innovation and that translates to new and unique products. Speaker 300:35:09And so from our standpoint, that's unlocked a lot of our pricing opportunity. What we expect consistent with the midterm plans that we've laid out is roughly 1% to 2% pricing in 2024, and we'll continue that going forward. So I think This is about culture. It's about new products. And that's what's really and discipline in terms of Speaker 200:35:29how you construct your deals. That's really what's enabled this. And I just support that by again, obviously, new products aren't in the price calculation, they're in mix. But with a focus on having those come out at higher gross margins, when you have a vitality index of 26%, Over 25% of your products are coming out that have a higher gross margin than the predicate ones. And ultimately, that will be the dynamic even more so than like for like products, which will help drive margin. Speaker 700:35:59That's extremely helpful, Peter. And one quick follow-up here. The margin expansion guide was really impressive, 50 to 80 basis points. How much of that is coming from gross margins versus operating leverage? Speaker 300:36:12Sure. And just a word on 2023 margin, we expanded 60 basis points standalone, But we did that with a dramatic increase in R and D expansion. And so that's the template that we really, really like to see. And so as we look at 2024, the vast majority of the expansion will come from gross margin. I used some words in my prepared remarks Regarding the lean focus at the company, and that's real. Speaker 300:36:42What we call variable cost productivity initiatives are reshaping how we operate the manufacturing and distribution operations of the company. So that's one key element. Pricing is another key element impacting gross margin. So in 2024, majority comes from gross margin expansion. You'll actually see R and D grow as a percentage of sales, not to the extent that it did in prior years, but it will increase as a percentage of sales as we continue to grow R and D faster. Speaker 300:37:15And then there will be a little bit of savings from SG and A. That's really the construct behind the 50 to 80 basis points. Speaker 700:37:22Fantastic. Thanks guys. Speaker 600:37:24Thank you. Operator00:37:26Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 400:37:33And that will come from Operator00:37:34the line of Matt Taylor with Jefferies. Your line is open. Speaker 200:37:38Good morning, Matt. Good morning. Speaker 600:37:41Thank you for taking the question. So I had a follow-up. You talked a little bit about the phasing with China. And I guess I was wondering if you could comment also on other geographies and how that phase through the years that growth expected to be more linear in the 4% assumption. And then the other part of that You mentioned the customer survey that you did recently, you thought it was a little bit more positive. Speaker 600:38:07I was wondering if you could unpack that a little bit and talk about how much that went into your forecast. Speaker 300:38:14Sure. Jason, do Speaker 200:38:15you want to take Speaker 600:38:16the first part and I'll take it through that? Yes. Speaker 300:38:17I think that I think China is listen, China is not a huge piece of our business, right? It's about 15% overall. And so the dynamic that Pete described is one that we're working through and I think presents a nice opportunity for the second half the year and beyond. As far as other geographies go, they do generally follow some of the same patterns that we that I described as a company overall. We're seeing and really it's not about health of market or buying decision timeframes, But rather, it's about the comparators that we're dealing with. Speaker 300:38:54Q1, Q2, you're talking about a blended 10 ish percent revenue growth. Q3, Q4 a little bit more normal. So really it comes down to that in terms of why the growth is going to be the way it is for us in 2024, I wouldn't point to other geographic factors, other than that comp. Now as it relates to hospital capital surveys, overall, we survey each quarter And we go to our main customers. We talk to them. Speaker 300:39:26We have discussions in an organized manner using the specific tool that we have in place. And what we said in the Q3 is we were seeing some signs of optimism from that group. And then, as we did our most in survey, I would actually point to a couple of different things. First, we did see increased buying and ordering patterns in the Q4 of the year. As we closed out, in particular in December, there was a buoyancy to the markets, in particular the U. Speaker 300:39:56S. Market that sort of supported some of the things that we saw in the survey. The second thing is our internal surveys continued in terms of commentary on positive expectations for growth in 2024, which I think that was a great piece of data as well. And then 3rd, As we looked at general external information, there were a few things that came our way. First of all, hospital profitability is robust. Speaker 300:40:24We saw good reports from a number of providers, number of indices which report on general hospital health. All of those things were good. 2nd, sentiment surveys that other people conducted were also we use words like constructive set up into 2024. We're not sitting here saying it's going to be an unbelievable market, but we think it's going to be a solid market as we approach 2024. Of course, we're watching Fed rate decisions because that will have another element, as people look at installing capital and making ultrasound purchases. Speaker 300:40:57But by and large, We feel good about how we're thinking about 2024. Pete, do you want to add anything in terms of customer discussion? Speaker 200:41:04Well, I think you covered it. I mean, the only point, the balance sheets are getting better, Matt, less travelers, nursing and stuff. So their costs are going down. And so you've seen in some of the reports profit going up, which is what we're hearing. So that's there. Speaker 200:41:21At the same time demand strong, meaning the procedures patients coming in either from orthopedic, cardiovascular, neuro, I mean across the board. And so as you've heard us say as well as others, the more that those procedures grow and new innovations come out, They typically are always supported by much of the equipment that we do. We talk about Alzheimer's when new therapies are going to come out and as they do grow, they're going to acquire our equipment to image and manage safety. As new implants come out in orthopedics and move to an outpatient center, You're going to need an OEC C arm to be able to do that procedure backed up with ultrasound. So that's the part that we watch is that Customers' health, particularly United States is improving and the procedures growth is on the rise. Speaker 600:42:10Great. Thanks, Pete. Thanks, Jay. Thank you. Operator00:42:15Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Larry Biegelsen with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Speaker 800:42:27Larry. Good morning. Hey, good morning, Pete. Good morning, Jay. Thanks for taking the question. Speaker 800:42:32I'm going to ask 2 pipeline questions. First, Pete, the slides say you filed fluparadaz, you talked about it in your prepared remarks. Are you expecting approval in 2024 And there are about 9,000,000 myocardial perfusion imaging tests in the U. S. Each year. Speaker 800:42:50Do you think Fluparadest can capture portion of the MPI market over time? And I had one follow-up. Speaker 200:42:58Yes, Larry, look, we're I won't give my estimate of when the agency approvals would be, but the normative rates would say at some point here in later second half of the year based on what the normal dates would be for an NDA that we should be in the process for an approval. Look, it's a very exciting drug and I mean, you've written on it as well. The standard of care forever, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks is a spec camera and Technisium. Many of us here, I think, on the call listening and know if you go to any type of hospital, There are perfusion tests to see how your heart is functioning, which then directly translates into how is the plumbing or your vessels doing and how is the electrical system doing and it's a very efficient test. The challenge is the current products just actually don't have the level of specificity or sensitivity, meaning that they can't always point to a direct interventional action. Speaker 200:43:59And the early data, again, to be substantiated with the right approval is that a product like Flipirdaz can greatly increase the specificity and sensitivity. To your point, it's not a product that's used on a spec camera, it's a product that's used on PETCT. PETCT is not widely used in cardiology. If this product were to take off and capture a larger or in cooperation with radiology. And so we're quite excited about. Speaker 200:44:37I think it's a great support for cardiovascular care. I know cardiologists have looked at it, have been very impressed with it, but we'll see how that plays out. We're not counting on any significant ramp right now in our midterm views. We have, I'd say reasonable numbers that In some future dates post approval, we'll talk about. But to your point, with the size of the opportunity, there could be some scenarios where this could end up being a larger piece of the business over time. Speaker 800:45:06That's very helpful. And Pete, I'd love to get an update on your progress with the photon counting technology, what are the next steps and milestones in the process to bring this to the market in the U. S. And outside the U. S? Speaker 800:45:19Thank you. Speaker 200:45:20Yes, Larry, thanks. Yes, photon counting, obviously very exciting technology for CT, really probably the biggest transformation to come to CT in the last 30 some years beyond MultiSlice. And it has that opportunity to bring better resolution, reduce dose, but also bring functional capabilities within the CT world, which typically is a great Tomical imager, but doesn't show what's happening more to cellular or an organ level. And Photon has that capability. There's obviously some other players in the marketplace currently. Speaker 200:45:55We have beta sites that are actually running where we're actually doing a lot of work currently. We believe our technology approach, which is the use of a deep silicone is unique in a lot of different ways. But I would just say for the whole broader sector, all of us that are playing it. I think this is going to be a strong revolution for the whole industry, mainly because CT's ability to be installed many different places it's just ubiquitous use for so many different diagnosis. So standby, more to come. Speaker 200:46:25We'll be talking more about it throughout the year, But we're making good progress on the platform. So thanks for the questions. Speaker 700:46:32Thank you. Speaker 800:46:33Thank you. Operator00:46:34Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Joanne Wuensch with Citi. Your line is open. Speaker 200:46:45Good morning, Joanne. Speaker 900:46:46Good morning. Good morning and thank you for taking the question. As you move more and more into AI enabled technologies, you comment on your thoughts on how to translate that to dollars and cents? Is it a subscription model? Is it Software as a Service, how do we think about that? Speaker 200:47:06Yes, Jon, it's a great question and I would say our strategies are evolving and it will be in many ways multifaceted. So just to give an example in today world where we have a product like Air Recon DL, which again is this new way of actually how an MRI actually creates an imaging using artificial intelligence and the corresponding upgrades that we can take to our installed base. Today, those fundamentally result in a higher price value proposition, higher gross margins for an acquisition in that space. And I think there's still going to be plenty of those opportunities to say this product by itself and this product plus AI is actually 4, 5, 10 points higher in gross margin because of what it actually does. And that will still account for a reasonable part of our growth. Speaker 200:47:58The second part then is actually bringing certain capabilities via a SaaS model as they're a pure standalone software So take in my prepared remarks, I talked about the App Orchestrator. There's a great example of a product that will be cloud based, can fit on many different PAC systems and work with multi vendor equipment and customers may decide that at one hospital or their whole network they want it And so they could pay for one on-site capability via SaaS, they could pay for multiple. And then riding upon that will be applications from other third parties. And we will have an opportunity to say, you'll get 70%, we'll take 30% as an enabler into our broader installed base and others. And so there's a multifaceted way. Speaker 200:48:45I would say in 2024, one of our big operating priorities or big priorities we have is really building out this go to market and monetization model, but it's going to evolve everything from more value to a piece hardware which we can actually attain more value for all the way through different almost down to by the use capabilities. That again, that's going to expand over multiple years, but that's how we're thinking about it and putting in place the right type of SaaS backbone for the whole company. Operator00:49:17Thank you very much. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 400:49:26And that will come from Operator00:49:27the line of Graeme Doyle with UBS. Your line is open. Speaker 200:49:32Hey, Graham. Speaker 1000:49:33Good morning, guys. Thanks a lot for taking my questions. Could we just touch on China again, just to clarify one of the statements earlier? You said you're expecting no growth, but also negative growth in the first half. And just is it negative or no growth, I. Speaker 1000:49:47E, flat? And just for the full year, are you expecting China to grow? And then just a quick clarification one after that on the order book. Thank you. Speaker 300:49:57Sure. On China, we expect a decline in the first half. But remember, in Q1 of 2023 and Q2 of 2023, We had around 20% growth. So, we've always kind of modeled the decline in the first half, growth in the second half. And as a result, we're expecting growth for the year. Speaker 1000:50:18Perfect. That's super clear. And then just on the orders, I think you mentioned Quite a sizable multiyear contract win. Does that get all booked in the Q4, 2023 as well then? Speaker 200:50:32Yes, Graham, what I actually I think referenced was over the year multiple enterprise deals that we won that amount to over $2,500,000,000 Our current process is as we bring in significant amounts of orders. We typically don't book out beyond a 2 year window of our orders. So if we have something that's captured for 5, 6, 10 years, we aren't actually booking years 7 excuse me, 3 and beyond in our current order book. That's not our approach that we implement. So the order we put in the 3% growth are very near term orders that we won in the Q4 that we'll see play out in 'twenty four and 'twenty five. Speaker 1000:51:21Perfect. A really cheeky quick one. On that Photoncante, you brought it up earlier. Is it your expectation that on a, I don't know, like a, call it, a 5 year view, this becomes kind of the standard of care within CT more broadly as it becomes economic? And we should expect that this most CTs in Europe and certainly the U. Speaker 1000:51:40S. Become photon counting? Speaker 200:51:43I think 5 years is a little bit optimistic. I mean, I think I've heard what others have said as well. I think in the 10 year window, That's probably more realistic. Keep in mind, 85% of all CTs in the world tend to be more mid tier value based products. Some of them sell for $200,000 $300,000 in different parts of the world. Speaker 200:52:06So it's a wide community of what's in a CT. Your point is on the premium end and stuff, I think in the 5 year window, yes, you're going to see a significant higher percentage of Photon County. Speaker 1000:52:18Perfect. Thank you very much guys. I'll jump back in the queue. Speaker 300:52:20Thank you, Robert. Operator00:52:22Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Anthony Petrone with Mizuho. Your line is open. Speaker 200:52:35Morning, Anthony. Speaker 1100:52:36Good morning, Pete. How are you? Good morning, Jay. Congrats on a solid year post spin. And maybe I'll start, Pete, with just question on Theragnostics, you have it in the slide deck here. Speaker 1100:52:48Obviously, GE Healthcare well positioned on the diagnostic side. You mentioned Growth organically and inorganically, just wondering how you're thinking about the other pieces of Theragnostics. You have therapeutics and supply chain, You can grow more in diagnostics. So just maybe your thoughts on how that space is consolidating and where GE can play specifically? And I'll have a follow-up for Jay on capital allocation. Speaker 200:53:15Yes. No, Anthony, it's a good question. I mean, obviously, at the baseline level, As these therapies take off, PETCT is a critical product. I mean, for all practical purposes, it's a limited world of folks that manufacturing PETCT and PETMR, we're one of them. We think to do this effectively, you have to have a multi head SACCT, we have a 12 head system called the Star Guide. Speaker 200:53:43None of our major competitors really have that product. Why is that important? If you have a traditional 2 head, it's an hour to do the study versus you can do it in 15 minutes or less. You can't run the fact that the diagnostics department if you don't have a multi head camera. So that's kind of the stakes. Speaker 200:53:59The next thing is you need to integrate those images and look at them together to diagnose, look at radiation dose. Patient might have had External beam radiation, they get radiation from the drug itself and you look at both of those. MEMS software is really the best in the world. They're going to be part of us post close. That's going to bring a missing link. Speaker 200:54:20It's also a capability that really nobody else in the industry has when you couple that with those products. And then on the has when you couple that with those products. And then on the tracer side, we're the only company that has the equipment and manufacturers the tracers. Others distribute, But there's a big difference between just shipping it around and making it. And so we have the logistics capability. Speaker 200:54:39We also have the manufacturing capability. And we also make the cyclotrons, which again are particle accelerators that actually help create many of these. So there's multiple opportunities here, either working with some of the pharmaceutical companies directly, playing a leadership role with customers on how you deliver these doses. And I just remind everybody, Unlike other drugs where you can just deliver in any center, these products have a half life, which means the moment you make them, they're degrading. And so how you actually take an order and get it to a patient that day for the right potency is one of the things we have expertise in. Speaker 200:55:17So Again, as these grow and what we're excited about is the impact they're going to have on patients, effectiveness and low side effects. We've got most of the capabilities to play different roles throughout the growth of this and that's what we're planning to do. Speaker 1100:55:33Helpful. And Jay, real quick on capital allocation, uses of cash for this year. Is M and A more the priority? You did $1,000,000,000 debt pay down And then just free cash flow conversion that will be helpful. Thanks. Speaker 300:55:46Sure. Thanks for the question. I think 2023 was really a great case study in terms of how we think about capital allocation. It starts to your point with free cash flow. We were able to deliver 95% conversion, which we were very proud of. Speaker 300:56:05We did a lot of work on the balance sheet, on working capital balances, collections on inventory turns, which I commented on in my prepared remarks. And the result was we exceeded our cash flow expectations by a good margin. And we set up 2024 with another solid 90% conversion rate and free cash flow growth. And so then the question is, how do you deploy that? Well, in 2023, The first thing we like to do is reinvest in the business to accelerate growth. Speaker 300:56:39And so what we were able to do is drive EBIT expansion of 60 basis points despite 20 ish percent growth in R and D and we also significantly expanded CapEx investments. So point 1, reinvest in the business. The second thing we like to do is strategic M and A. Over the course of 2023, we announced 3 deals, Emactus, Caption and MIMS. All of them have the profile of deals that we like, strategically relevant, accretive to our business, really solid ROIs over time. Speaker 300:57:16So all of them hit the profile and made us a bet more competitive in the marketplace with more offerings for our customers. Also in 2023, we made a number of minority investments that allow us to learn about new areas, in a sort of experimental manner. So we don't talk too much about all of those investments, but we make quite a few in 2023 and over time we expect these to yield dividends. We also like to focus on the balance sheet. So we paid down $1,000,000,000 in debt in 2023, significantly enhancing the financial flexibility going forward. Speaker 300:57:54And finally, we paid a dividend. So I guess the way I think about it, everything was on display in 2023 in terms of how we think about a disciplined capital allocation strategy. And as we move forward, I would expect to see more of the same. All of that though, as I said at the beginning of this, was is unlocked by cash flow generation, which is a real area of focus for us. Speaker 1100:58:19Thank you very much. Speaker 300:58:21Thanks, Anthony. Operator00:58:22Thank you. We do have time for one final question and that will come from the line of Patrick Wood with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Speaker 1000:58:33Amazing. Thank you. Speaker 1200:58:34Hey, I'll keep it to 1 just given the timing. I'll make it a short one. Thank you for the detail on the pricing side. Just kind of curious like how that's flowing through on the service book. Obviously, you get the 1 year warranty, but Where you're resigning service agreements, are you seeing a similar kind of price uplift to what you're getting on the hardware side so that, that traditional ratio between the two is remaining Relatively constant, just curious what you're seeing there. Speaker 1100:58:58Thanks. Speaker 200:58:59Yes, Patrick. We've benefited from multi year contract has been able to actually have escalators on, not only just on upfront, but then actually have escalators through the years. And then also we have Parts, significant large parts business as well as time and material. And then the other aspect of it is different services that we offer. It might be asset tracking tools, things of that nature. Speaker 200:59:26But I would say we've had the good fortune across the board to be able to get some price across all those different vehicles in service. I would say the other thing and it's kind of a given point, but it's important to note that when services are really one of our highest margin offerings that we have. When you are gaining share, as I mentioned earlier on the call, ultimately to your point, when you get to month 13, that becomes a service track. And that higher mix of service over time also is an important driver of our future business. Thanks for that question. Speaker 600:59:59Thank you. Operator01:00:01Thank you. And Mr. Arduini, I'll turn the call back over to you for any closing remarks. Speaker 201:00:06Thank you. Thank you. Look, I'd just like to Thank you so much to our colleagues here at GE Healthcare. It's been a great year. There's been a lot of great work and tireless efforts to go into 1st year as a public company. Speaker 201:00:21But importantly, with all of that, the focus on our patients and customers to deliver safe, high quality products that make a difference, It's at the core of our lean mindset. 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There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to GE Healthcare's 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker, Carolyn Borders, Chief Investor Relations Officer. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:40Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to GE Healthcare's 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. I'm joined by our President and CEO, Peter Arduini and our Vice President and CFO, Jay Siccaro. Our conference call remarks will include both GAAP and non GAAP financial results. Reconciliations between GAAP and non GAAP measures can be found in today's press release and in the presentation slides available on our website. Speaker 100:01:09During this call, we'll make forward looking statements about our performance. These statements are based on how we see things today. As described in our SEC filings, Actual results may differ materially due to risks and uncertainties. And with that, I'll hand the call over to Peter. Speaker 200:01:26Thanks, Carolyn. Let me start by providing a few highlights from a successful 1st year as a public company. I'm proud of how our teams executed to deliver robust financial results with performance that all met or exceeded guidance. In fact, our execution throughout the year allowed us to raise guidance twice. We've continued to increase our R and D investment, launching over 40 new innovations tied to our care pathway and digital strategy. Speaker 200:01:56As a result of our investments, We estimate that we've gained global market share in equipment in 2023. And once again, we topped the FDA's list of AI enabled device authorizations with 58 more than any other medtech company. With 58 more than any other medtech company. Backlog remains robust, led by an improved capital equipment landscape And we significantly strengthened our balance sheet as we paid down $1,000,000,000 in debt since the beginning of Q4. Our financial flexibility enables us to drive both organic and inorganic investment such as the Caption Health and Immactis acquisitions completed in 2023. Speaker 200:02:37More recently, we announced our plans to acquire MIM software, which I'll discuss in greater detail later in the call. We continue to build our position as a trusted partner and here are a few highlights from throughout the year. On the commercial side, we secured multi year enterprise deals globally with contract values totaling approximately $2,500,000,000 in 2023 fueling our growth. We also expanded our 40 year with the University of Wisconsin Madison by entering a 10 year strategic collaboration that goes beyond medical imaging to new frontiers and digital technologies and disease focused solutions. Separately, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and BARDA, a division within the U. Speaker 200:03:24S. Department of Health and Services, Our funding programs totaling over $80,000,000 that will allow us to develop new AI applications for ultrasound benefit patients in low and middle income countries and patients with lung pathologies and traumatic injuries. We also announced a collaboration with Novo Nordisk to advance the clinical and product development of peripheral focused ultrasound. We've assembled a strong world class leadership team. Jay Saccaro joined us last year and has had an immediate impact. Speaker 200:04:00He's had the opportunity to assess our organizational needs, forecasting models, financial systems and processes and is adding significant strategic and operational value. Similarly, Tah joined us as Chief Technology Officer more than a year ago And he's been charting our digital future and strategy, while building a high performing team of top healthcare technology experts. In 2023, we published our inaugural sustainability report, highlighting our progress and commitment to corporate responsibility and risk management. Lastly, we introduced 2024 guidance today, which Jay will discuss in greater detail. Our outlook reflects an improved capital equipment landscape. Speaker 200:04:44It also reflects continued strength on top of 2 consecutive years of high single digit organic sales growth. Similar to last quarter, we conducted a survey of a broad set of U. S. Customers, which supports our forecast for 2024. Our latest survey showed improved financial optimism and capital budget outlook versus the last survey in October. Speaker 200:05:09Global procedures remain strong, which we believe all of this points to a constructive setup for the year. Now I'll pass the call on to Jay to take us through the financials and our business performance, and I'll conclude the call with a discussion around our R and D commitments and the innovation we're delivering for customers. Jay? Speaker 300:05:29Thanks, Pete. Let's start with our financial performance on Slide 4. For the Q4 of 2023, revenues of $5,200,000,000 increased 5% year over year and grew 5% organically. This was driven by sales in pharmaceutical diagnostics, imaging and patient care solutions. Recall that this 5% organic growth was on top of the 13% we delivered in the Q4 of 2022, which benefited from easing supply chain. Speaker 300:06:03Organic orders increased 3% year over year. Order dollars continue to outpace sales, leading to a total company book to bill of 1.05 times, up sequentially from 1.03x due to healthy product orders including equipment. We exited the year with a record backlog of $19,100,000,000 up $700,000,000 sequentially. This performance gives us continued confidence in our expectations for 2024. 4th quarter adjusted EBIT margin was 16.1%. Speaker 300:06:40Sequentially, margin improved 70 basis points, supported by seasonally higher volume, while we expanded our investments in future innovation. Year over year standalone adjusted EBIT margin was flat as benefits from productivity and price were offset primarily by investments. The lean methodology is at the foundation of our productivity, yielding strong performance in the Q4 with improvements in logistics, sourcing and services. Our teams came together to increase on time delivery to our customers by 11% year over year With lean actions improving demand forecast accuracy, supplier planning and lead times, we also saw a path to backlog efficiency with a greater than 50% improvement year over year in imaging alone. For the Q4, we delivered adjusted EPS of $1.18 up 11% on a standalone basis. Speaker 300:07:41Free cash flow of $956,000,000 was down slightly year over year. This was impacted by approximately $330,000,000 of spin related items such as interest and post retirement benefit payments. Turning to our full year results on Slide 5. For 2023, revenues of $19,600,000,000 grew 8% organically versus last year. All of our regions and segments saw positive revenue growth. Speaker 300:08:14Also important to note, Recurring revenue, which drives revenue predictability and higher margin was greater than 45% of total revenues for the year. Organic orders grew 3% year over year and book to bill was 1.03 times. On a standalone basis, 2023 adjusted EBIT margin was up 60 basis points. Adjusted EPS of $3.93 exceeded our guidance and represented standalone growth of 16%. Free cash flow was more than $1,700,000,000 and translated into a strong conversion rate of 95%, which was ahead of our guidance for the year. Speaker 300:09:00This was driven by the solid progress we made in working capital associated with multiple initiatives on inventory and collections processes. On Slide 6, let's take a closer look at segment revenue performance for the year. For full year 2023, we delivered strong year over year organic growth of 8% for revenues. This was led by PDX with 18% growth, PCS at 8% and imaging at 7%, driven by both volume and price. Ultrasound organic revenue increased 2%. Speaker 300:09:37Recall that in 2022, We had multiple quarters of strong ultrasound results as supply chain constraints eased. I'd also note that all segments positive price in the year reflecting our continued pricing discipline. Looking ahead, we believe all of our segments are well positioned as we move into 2024 from both an innovation and operational perspective. I'll walk through more details on this for each segment shortly. Turning to the progress we made in 2023 on margin initiatives on Slide 7. Speaker 300:10:11As we move through the year, we drove sequential improvements in adjusted EBIT margin driven by volume, commercial execution and productivity. For the year, we increased adjusted gross margin by 120 basis points versus 2022 and delivered more than 3% in positive sales price for the year ahead of our expectations. In 2024, we expect 1 to 2 percentage points of positive price as we deliver increasing value to our customers. We're also starting to see margin expansion from improving volumes and higher margin NPIs given our continued R and D investment. For the year, we invested more than $1,000,000,000 in R and D, equating to over 6% of sales, all while expanding margins. Speaker 300:10:59In 2024, we expect to be in the same range as a percent of sales or slightly higher, supporting our innovative Shin pipeline. Our productivity initiatives have also gained traction as logistics costs continue to improve, spot buys decreased and as we implemented cost efficient design changes. We have also experienced improved labor productivity driven by a greater proportion of remote fix in the application of digital tools. Relative to G and A, we're optimizing our spend by rightsizing our real estate footprint and IT infrastructure to generate additional efficiencies. We made solid progress in exiting TSAs in 2023 with nearly 280 completed through the end of 4Q. Speaker 300:11:48We're on track to exit the vast majority of the remaining TSAs in 2024, which gives us confidence in our G and A optimization plans, an important part of reaching medium term margin goals. Given our progress across the organization, we have solid visibility to deliver on our high teens to 20% adjusted EBIT margin target over the medium term. Now I'll turn to our segments. As a reminder, in 2023, We incurred approximately $200,000,000 of recurring standalone costs that impact our segment EBIT margin rates. We did not have these expenses in 2022. Speaker 300:12:29These costs were allocated based on revenue and equated to approximately 100 basis points of margin headwind for each segment. Going forward, these costs will be in our run rate, but serve as an opportunity to operate more efficiently in the future. Let's start with our Imaging segment on Slide 8, where we generated organic revenue growth of 4% year over year. This was driven by improved backlog conversion and price. Growth was up against 4th quarter sales that experienced a strong double digit increase in 2022. Speaker 300:13:02Segment EBIT margin was up 10 basis points year over year as we made progress on enhancing gross margin. Imaging equipment growth outpaced service growth in the quarter and for the year, which impacted margin mix as we build our installed base with future service growth opportunity. We saw strong progress in our product platforming initiatives across several modalities, including CT and MR. Customer demand for our imaging product remains healthy and our growing backlog is driven by new product introductions. Turning to ultrasound on Slide 9, organic revenue was down 2% year over year due to the impact of lower volume Tied to a challenging comparison for the same period last year, we continue to have a positive outlook for this segment as we enter 2024. Speaker 300:13:54Segment EBIT margin declined year over year due to investments such as the Caption Health Artificial Intelligence Integration. This year over year margin decline was partially mitigated by cost productivity as we drove standardization and commonality across our platforms. As we exited the year, we saw opportunities for ultrasound equipment based on a combination of our commercial efforts and improving market conditions. With recent customer commitments and interest in new products enhanced by AI technology, We're well positioned as we enter 2024. Moving to Patient Care Solutions on Slide 10, organic revenue was up 4% driven by progress on price and operational process improvements. Speaker 300:14:39Revenue increased as we fulfill more backlog in addition to contribution from MPIs. Similar to imaging, recall that sales growth in the Q4 last year increased double digits due to an Easing supply chain environment. PCS margin decreased 3 20 basis points compared to last year, driven by investments and one time favorability that we experienced in the prior year. During the quarter, the team delivered on improved supplier lead times and lower inventory. As we look ahead, we're excited about recent product launches that should contribute to future growth. Speaker 300:15:17Finally, moving to Pharmaceutical Diagnostics on Slide 11, we had another solid quarter generating 23% year over year organic growth associated with an easier year over year comparison and pricing. Segment EBIT margin of 24.4% improved 100 40 basis points year over year driven by price, volume and productivity actions. We're encouraged by the continuing strength of global imaging procedures, which drives the need for imaging agents. We are executing on our innovation strategy through investments in our pipeline across care areas, including the in licensing of FAPI assets, which we believe will play a key role in targeting this protein to detect certain types of cancer. This is an area of significant potential for the nuclear medicine and oncology communities. Speaker 300:16:11Turning to Slide 12, I'll walk through our cash flow performance. We exited the year with an improved financial profile, including a stronger balance sheet and enhanced financial flexibility to support our future growth. We generated free cash flow of $956,000,000 during the 4th quarter, down $31,000,000 year over year with standalone cash outflows. Inventory turns improved in the quarter, the highest they have been since the beginning of 2021. This is the result of our lean supply chain actions. Speaker 300:16:47We saw operational improvements, including lead time reductions and greater inventory turns in all segments. Our aged inventory balance decreased and we have stronger input controls in place, including safety stock reduction and optimized stock planning. In addition, our collections improved as a result of our focused daily management system. For the year, we delivered strong free cash flow of over $1,700,000,000 This equates to 95% free cash flow conversion. We also strengthened our balance sheet by paying down $1,000,000,000 of debt since the start of the Q4. Speaker 300:17:25With a strong balance sheet and a balanced capital allocation strategy, We'll continue to focus on organic and inorganic investment, deleveraging and paying a dividend. Now let's turn to our outlook on Slide 13. For 2024, we expect organic revenue growth to be approximately 4%. This compares to strong growth of 8% in 2023 That was driven by easing supply chains and price gains. I would note that we expect foreign exchange headwind to revenue of less than 1% in 2024. Speaker 300:17:59We expect full year adjusted EBIT margin to be in the range of 15.6% to 15.9%, representing expansion of 50 basis points to 80 basis points, given the progress we're making with volume commercial execution and optimization. We assume an adjusted effective tax rate in the range of 23% to 25%. The Pillar 2 global minimum tax is not anticipated to have a significant impact on our tax expense in 2024. On adjusted EPS, we expect to deliver between $4.20 and $4.35 for the full year, representing growth in the range of 7% to 11% versus 2023. Lastly, we expect to deliver free cash flow of approximately $1,800,000,000 for the full year. Speaker 300:18:48While we don't give quarterly guidance, it's important to note that given the seasonal nature of our business, the 4th quarter is typically the strongest period for orders, sales dollars and adjusted EBIT margin. We expect year over year organic revenue growth and adjusted EBIT margin in the first quarter to be the lowest of the year. Also remember that organic sales growth in the first half of twenty twenty three was very strong at 11%. As a result, organic revenue growth is expected to be stronger in the second half of the year versus the first half in 2024. To wrap up, we're entering 2024 from a position of strength as we executed well in 2023. Speaker 300:19:38Our solid backlog, order intake and adjusted EBIT margin progress gives us confidence in our ability to deliver on our guidance for 2024. Now, I'll hand the call back over to Pete. Speaker 200:19:53Thanks, Jay. Through an emphasis on R and D, we continue to innovate across our 4 segments. Our new product vitality index, which measures new products contributing to orders in the year was healthy at 26%. We launched more than 40 new innovations in 23, as I noted before, many of which are AI and digitally enabled, bringing more opportunity to increase gross margin with these enhanced capabilities. Earlier, I mentioned our plans to acquire MIM Software, a leader in AI enabled image analysis and workflow tools across multiple care areas. Speaker 200:20:30Once integrated post close, MIM is expected to drive accretive top line growth And we expect the transaction to be neutral to adjusted EBIT in year 1 and accretive thereafter. One of the dilemmas our customers face is integrating the variety of multi vendor AI applications into their workflows. Our new app orchestrator is a solution that simplifies the AI selection, integration and workflow process for healthcare professionals. By providing easy access to pre validated apps, we're helping reduce the pressure that often comes with the overhead of evaluating, acquiring and implementing solutions from many companies. We're in the process of developing the subscription based application for the cloud. Speaker 200:21:19Our high growth, high margin AI solutions are designed to increase productivity, efficiency and diagnostic confidence. Customers have the option to purchase new AI equipped devices or as an upgrade to existing equipment. We're actively pursuing AI across our product portfolio with a focused effort to expedite product development in 2024. Moving to molecular imaging on Slide 15 and the role of MIM software to enhance our precision care strategy. For starters, our unique portfolio of pet MR, pet CT and multi head spec CT, radio tracers and digital offers providers a comprehensive solution to deliver on this growing field of diagnostics and therapeutics. Speaker 200:22:08As novel therapies become more widely available, our tracers play an increasingly important role, putting us at the center of this transformation of care that will help enable better patient outcomes across many care pathways as functional imaging expands. This chart illustrates the diversity of our pharmaceutical portfolio both existing and in the pipeline and the diseases that each one uniquely targets. We see growth opportunities with our existing products like Alzheimer's disease as new therapies ramp up and Suriana for metastatic breast cancer, which are used both in conjunction with pet systems for diagnosis. Flipuradaz, a pipeline product for diagnosing and assessing coronary artery disease is expected to significantly advance PETCT imaging. Cardiologists say it shows promise for a variety of reasons. Speaker 200:23:09First, it has the potential to offer more sensitivity and specificity than spec and technetium, which is the standard of care. Its longer half life may allow doses to be ordered and transported longer distances, unlike other products on the market, which require on-site production, which can be a limiting factor for smaller hospitals and cardiac imaging centers. One of the most exciting advancements in molecular and functional imaging is theranostics. There's a model for this rapidly growing field that it allows you to see what you treat and treat what you see. Theragnostics combines diagnostic imaging equipment, Radiopharmaceuticals, both diagnostics and therapeutic with a goal of eliminating cancer cells without affecting healthy tissues, and this has fewer side effects for patients. Speaker 200:24:03This approach can bring significant improvements for many cancer types and one of the reasons why molecular imaging has a very promising future. To give you some perspective, currently the overall theargostics market, which includes equipment, tracers and therapies is approximately $9,000,000,000 and is expected to grow to $40,000,000,000 by 2,032. Today, Theragnostics is primarily used in thyroid, neuroendocrine and prostate cancer. However, A growing pipeline of drugs across the industry for future applications include breast, ovarian, pancreatic and lung cancers show even more promise to potentially extend the length and quality of life for more patients. We expect to play an important role in the delivery of these new therapies. Speaker 200:24:53In the next 3 years, we plan to significantly increase our current Theranostics franchise through a combination of organic and inorganic expansions. And we're excited about the opportunity to be a trusted partner, helping our customers navigate this important and growing field of medical imaging. This mission to improve outcomes across care pathways will be enabled by our announced intention to acquire MIM. After close, we plan to integrate these new capabilities into GE Healthcare's devices to enhance imaging fusion, multimodal inputs for diagnostics, therapy planning and monitoring. And by leveraging these new tools across various care areas, we can differentiate our solutions for the benefit of patients and healthcare systems worldwide, particularly around Theragnostics. Speaker 200:25:45In closing, we're excited about the growth potential of molecular imaging and Theranostics as well as our pipeline pharmaceuticals and the collective opportunity for these innovations to enable PrecisionCare. To summarize on Slide 16, I'm extremely proud of our team's execution in 2023 and our focus on patients and customers, as well as the progress we've made as a standalone company. We achieved or exceeded our financial and operational objectives we laid out at the beginning of the year and we're making significant progress on the innovation front, including digital and artificial intelligence launches. We have a strong balance sheet that allows us to invest in new capabilities organically and we're excited about our momentum as we enter 2024. We remain on track to deliver on our medium term targets. Speaker 200:26:36With that, I'd like to open up the call for questions. Speaker 100:26:40Thank you, Peter. I'd like to ask participants to please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Operator, can you please open the line? Operator00:26:50Thank Speaker 400:27:02And that will come from Operator00:27:02the line of Craig Bijou with Bank of America. Your line is open. Speaker 200:27:07Good morning, Craig. Speaker 500:27:09Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Serge, I appreciate the comments on Q1. And I did want to dive a little bit Can you guys still grow revenues in Q1 given that you do have a pretty strong year over year comp? And then on the margin side, should we still expect margin expansion in Q1, but maybe it's at a rate a little bit lower than what you're expecting for the full year? Speaker 300:27:38Craig, that's right. Overall, as I said in my prepared remarks, the first half will be lower than the second half And the Q1 will be lower than the Q2. And really what this comes down to is the challenging comp that we saw in Q1 of last year. I believe we had 12% revenue growth, which was really a great performance in that quarter. Having said that, We still expect revenue growth in the Q1 and some level of margin expansion, albeit both of those lower than the full year rates. Speaker 500:28:14Got it. That's helpful. And as a follow-up, I did want to touch on China and the Anti Corruption Act. And Basically, want to get your sense for what's going on there and did you grow sales and orders in China in Q4? And how should we think about that in the early parts of 2024? Speaker 200:28:40Hey, Craig, it's Pete. Well, look, as you know, there's a lot of moving parts within China. We've talked a lot about this in the past. I think there's 3 things. I mean, there is clearly a focus by the government to expand capabilities in medical coverage and a lot of that comes down to our equipment, ultrasound, CT as a first part. Speaker 200:29:02The second thing is there was the stimulus funding from last year, which was in Q4 and affected in Q1 where we did actually very, very well from a share and a growth standpoint. And then we have anti corruption. What we've seen on the ground is it's not that consistent in many different ways, meaning that Certain provinces, there may be less than a fact, other provinces, there may be more. I think that's going to play out throughout the coming year. We believe overall that the approach to drive better compliance in a very large country is a good thing and that There isn't necessarily an end date as much as it's a new policy approach about how you do business. Speaker 200:29:41And for a company like us, it's kind of how we do business every country around the world. I think that lays it out that way. That being said, last year for us in China in the first half, we had a very strong first half. We grew over 20% organic in the first half of twenty twenty three. So we're actually expecting our growth to be negative year over year, that's contemplated in our guidance in the first half. Speaker 200:30:07And then in the second half resuming to growth. And so that's kind of how we profiled it and that's part of our 4% guidance that we've laid out. Longer term, We believe China again with a $1,400,000,000 getting quality services today and a $1,000,000,000 that need it is going to continue to be a growth market out into the future. But we've taken, I think, a prudent approach on how we take a look at no growth in the first half and then growth resuming in I can have. Speaker 500:30:40Thanks, guys. Speaker 600:30:42Thank you. Operator00:30:43Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 400:30:50And that will come from Operator00:30:51the line of Vijay Kumar with Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Speaker 200:30:56Hi, Vijay. Speaker 700:30:59Hi, Pete. Congrats on a nice print here and very good morning to you. My first high level on the guidance here, Pete, 4% organic seems reasonable given the tougher comps. Curious, what is the guide assuming for pricing? And the book to bill in Q4, 1.06, It kind of implies a capital book to bill was perhaps 1.08, 1.09. Speaker 700:31:25What is the relationship between When I look at those optical numbers of 1.08, 1.09 on capital versus revenues, right, is there a timing element Could perhaps 4% just looking at the book to bill, the 4% seems, it looks like it has some cushion. Speaker 300:31:43So maybe I'll talk first about the sales growth for the year and then talk a little bit about pricing because I think both of those were embedded in the question. Listen, we were very pleased with the performance to close out 2023. On a full year basis, we delivered 8% at the high end of the range, in fact, a little bit in excess of our expectations for the 4th quarter. And a lot of that came down to execution in terms of translating backlog into sales, which was a testament to all the work in many of our teams. And so, as we look at 2024, we think roughly 4% is a solid number. Speaker 300:32:26If we think about it, we feel really good about 2023. We think the setup is solid. We think the business has proven It's pretty durable. Amidst a lot of macroeconomic volatility in 2023, our business performed pretty well. And so as a result, we did put on some incremental orders in the Q4 in the last couple of months of 2023, which was ahead of our expectations, so as I said. Speaker 300:32:53And so, it's early in the year. There's a lot of dynamics in play, Pete talked about 1, but frankly, it's a volatile world that we're living in. And we set the 4% up. It's a really challenging comp, But it's set up with a very solid backlog, a solid book to bill ratio. And so hopefully things cooperate and we move through the year nicely. Speaker 300:33:16Pete, why don't you add to that and then we can talk about price. Speaker 200:33:19Yes. No, I would just say, I think you covered it, Jay, other than the fact to say that, look, we were super pleased with the order book performance. There's been obviously a reasonable amount of questions over this year about order and the translation to revenue, putting up strong orders growth in the 4th quarter, both service and equipment. And again, when you think about our orders book now being over $19,000,000,000 That obviously sets us up for more gas in the tank and later in Q4 in the second half of twenty twenty four. But it's also business that we have for multi year deals that gives us visibility into 2025 as well. Speaker 200:33:58And I think that's an important Back here, I mentioned $2,500,000,000 of multiyear enterprise deals, which we've been really ramping up our capability on. Not only does that help you in the current year, but it typically gives you 2 to 3 years visibility out of business that you're going to get that you don't need to win each year. And I think so for over the period of time here, we just feel very good. And again, I'm just very satisfied with the work that the team has done in the setup that we've had. And to Jay's point, we've tried to take into consideration all the different challenges that may be helping in the world and making sure that we've had the appropriate call to be able to deal with whatever parameters come our way. Speaker 300:34:40Vijay, as it relates to price, like I said, we were pleased with price in 2023. We delivered around 3% of price and a lot of that comes down to a cultural focus at our company in terms of selling value and appreciation of our customers of the value that we're bringing to the table. We are trying to innovate. You saw the R and D growth number in the quarter. We really are trying to accelerate innovation and that translates to new and unique products. Speaker 300:35:09And so from our standpoint, that's unlocked a lot of our pricing opportunity. What we expect consistent with the midterm plans that we've laid out is roughly 1% to 2% pricing in 2024, and we'll continue that going forward. So I think This is about culture. It's about new products. And that's what's really and discipline in terms of Speaker 200:35:29how you construct your deals. That's really what's enabled this. And I just support that by again, obviously, new products aren't in the price calculation, they're in mix. But with a focus on having those come out at higher gross margins, when you have a vitality index of 26%, Over 25% of your products are coming out that have a higher gross margin than the predicate ones. And ultimately, that will be the dynamic even more so than like for like products, which will help drive margin. Speaker 700:35:59That's extremely helpful, Peter. And one quick follow-up here. The margin expansion guide was really impressive, 50 to 80 basis points. How much of that is coming from gross margins versus operating leverage? Speaker 300:36:12Sure. And just a word on 2023 margin, we expanded 60 basis points standalone, But we did that with a dramatic increase in R and D expansion. And so that's the template that we really, really like to see. And so as we look at 2024, the vast majority of the expansion will come from gross margin. I used some words in my prepared remarks Regarding the lean focus at the company, and that's real. Speaker 300:36:42What we call variable cost productivity initiatives are reshaping how we operate the manufacturing and distribution operations of the company. So that's one key element. Pricing is another key element impacting gross margin. So in 2024, majority comes from gross margin expansion. You'll actually see R and D grow as a percentage of sales, not to the extent that it did in prior years, but it will increase as a percentage of sales as we continue to grow R and D faster. Speaker 300:37:15And then there will be a little bit of savings from SG and A. That's really the construct behind the 50 to 80 basis points. Speaker 700:37:22Fantastic. Thanks guys. Speaker 600:37:24Thank you. Operator00:37:26Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 400:37:33And that will come from Operator00:37:34the line of Matt Taylor with Jefferies. Your line is open. Speaker 200:37:38Good morning, Matt. Good morning. Speaker 600:37:41Thank you for taking the question. So I had a follow-up. You talked a little bit about the phasing with China. And I guess I was wondering if you could comment also on other geographies and how that phase through the years that growth expected to be more linear in the 4% assumption. And then the other part of that You mentioned the customer survey that you did recently, you thought it was a little bit more positive. Speaker 600:38:07I was wondering if you could unpack that a little bit and talk about how much that went into your forecast. Speaker 300:38:14Sure. Jason, do Speaker 200:38:15you want to take Speaker 600:38:16the first part and I'll take it through that? Yes. Speaker 300:38:17I think that I think China is listen, China is not a huge piece of our business, right? It's about 15% overall. And so the dynamic that Pete described is one that we're working through and I think presents a nice opportunity for the second half the year and beyond. As far as other geographies go, they do generally follow some of the same patterns that we that I described as a company overall. We're seeing and really it's not about health of market or buying decision timeframes, But rather, it's about the comparators that we're dealing with. Speaker 300:38:54Q1, Q2, you're talking about a blended 10 ish percent revenue growth. Q3, Q4 a little bit more normal. So really it comes down to that in terms of why the growth is going to be the way it is for us in 2024, I wouldn't point to other geographic factors, other than that comp. Now as it relates to hospital capital surveys, overall, we survey each quarter And we go to our main customers. We talk to them. Speaker 300:39:26We have discussions in an organized manner using the specific tool that we have in place. And what we said in the Q3 is we were seeing some signs of optimism from that group. And then, as we did our most in survey, I would actually point to a couple of different things. First, we did see increased buying and ordering patterns in the Q4 of the year. As we closed out, in particular in December, there was a buoyancy to the markets, in particular the U. Speaker 300:39:56S. Market that sort of supported some of the things that we saw in the survey. The second thing is our internal surveys continued in terms of commentary on positive expectations for growth in 2024, which I think that was a great piece of data as well. And then 3rd, As we looked at general external information, there were a few things that came our way. First of all, hospital profitability is robust. Speaker 300:40:24We saw good reports from a number of providers, number of indices which report on general hospital health. All of those things were good. 2nd, sentiment surveys that other people conducted were also we use words like constructive set up into 2024. We're not sitting here saying it's going to be an unbelievable market, but we think it's going to be a solid market as we approach 2024. Of course, we're watching Fed rate decisions because that will have another element, as people look at installing capital and making ultrasound purchases. Speaker 300:40:57But by and large, We feel good about how we're thinking about 2024. Pete, do you want to add anything in terms of customer discussion? Speaker 200:41:04Well, I think you covered it. I mean, the only point, the balance sheets are getting better, Matt, less travelers, nursing and stuff. So their costs are going down. And so you've seen in some of the reports profit going up, which is what we're hearing. So that's there. Speaker 200:41:21At the same time demand strong, meaning the procedures patients coming in either from orthopedic, cardiovascular, neuro, I mean across the board. And so as you've heard us say as well as others, the more that those procedures grow and new innovations come out, They typically are always supported by much of the equipment that we do. We talk about Alzheimer's when new therapies are going to come out and as they do grow, they're going to acquire our equipment to image and manage safety. As new implants come out in orthopedics and move to an outpatient center, You're going to need an OEC C arm to be able to do that procedure backed up with ultrasound. So that's the part that we watch is that Customers' health, particularly United States is improving and the procedures growth is on the rise. Speaker 600:42:10Great. Thanks, Pete. Thanks, Jay. Thank you. Operator00:42:15Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Larry Biegelsen with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Speaker 800:42:27Larry. Good morning. Hey, good morning, Pete. Good morning, Jay. Thanks for taking the question. Speaker 800:42:32I'm going to ask 2 pipeline questions. First, Pete, the slides say you filed fluparadaz, you talked about it in your prepared remarks. Are you expecting approval in 2024 And there are about 9,000,000 myocardial perfusion imaging tests in the U. S. Each year. Speaker 800:42:50Do you think Fluparadest can capture portion of the MPI market over time? And I had one follow-up. Speaker 200:42:58Yes, Larry, look, we're I won't give my estimate of when the agency approvals would be, but the normative rates would say at some point here in later second half of the year based on what the normal dates would be for an NDA that we should be in the process for an approval. Look, it's a very exciting drug and I mean, you've written on it as well. The standard of care forever, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks is a spec camera and Technisium. Many of us here, I think, on the call listening and know if you go to any type of hospital, There are perfusion tests to see how your heart is functioning, which then directly translates into how is the plumbing or your vessels doing and how is the electrical system doing and it's a very efficient test. The challenge is the current products just actually don't have the level of specificity or sensitivity, meaning that they can't always point to a direct interventional action. Speaker 200:43:59And the early data, again, to be substantiated with the right approval is that a product like Flipirdaz can greatly increase the specificity and sensitivity. To your point, it's not a product that's used on a spec camera, it's a product that's used on PETCT. PETCT is not widely used in cardiology. If this product were to take off and capture a larger or in cooperation with radiology. And so we're quite excited about. Speaker 200:44:37I think it's a great support for cardiovascular care. I know cardiologists have looked at it, have been very impressed with it, but we'll see how that plays out. We're not counting on any significant ramp right now in our midterm views. We have, I'd say reasonable numbers that In some future dates post approval, we'll talk about. But to your point, with the size of the opportunity, there could be some scenarios where this could end up being a larger piece of the business over time. Speaker 800:45:06That's very helpful. And Pete, I'd love to get an update on your progress with the photon counting technology, what are the next steps and milestones in the process to bring this to the market in the U. S. And outside the U. S? Speaker 800:45:19Thank you. Speaker 200:45:20Yes, Larry, thanks. Yes, photon counting, obviously very exciting technology for CT, really probably the biggest transformation to come to CT in the last 30 some years beyond MultiSlice. And it has that opportunity to bring better resolution, reduce dose, but also bring functional capabilities within the CT world, which typically is a great Tomical imager, but doesn't show what's happening more to cellular or an organ level. And Photon has that capability. There's obviously some other players in the marketplace currently. Speaker 200:45:55We have beta sites that are actually running where we're actually doing a lot of work currently. We believe our technology approach, which is the use of a deep silicone is unique in a lot of different ways. But I would just say for the whole broader sector, all of us that are playing it. I think this is going to be a strong revolution for the whole industry, mainly because CT's ability to be installed many different places it's just ubiquitous use for so many different diagnosis. So standby, more to come. Speaker 200:46:25We'll be talking more about it throughout the year, But we're making good progress on the platform. So thanks for the questions. Speaker 700:46:32Thank you. Speaker 800:46:33Thank you. Operator00:46:34Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Joanne Wuensch with Citi. Your line is open. Speaker 200:46:45Good morning, Joanne. Speaker 900:46:46Good morning. Good morning and thank you for taking the question. As you move more and more into AI enabled technologies, you comment on your thoughts on how to translate that to dollars and cents? Is it a subscription model? Is it Software as a Service, how do we think about that? Speaker 200:47:06Yes, Jon, it's a great question and I would say our strategies are evolving and it will be in many ways multifaceted. So just to give an example in today world where we have a product like Air Recon DL, which again is this new way of actually how an MRI actually creates an imaging using artificial intelligence and the corresponding upgrades that we can take to our installed base. Today, those fundamentally result in a higher price value proposition, higher gross margins for an acquisition in that space. And I think there's still going to be plenty of those opportunities to say this product by itself and this product plus AI is actually 4, 5, 10 points higher in gross margin because of what it actually does. And that will still account for a reasonable part of our growth. Speaker 200:47:58The second part then is actually bringing certain capabilities via a SaaS model as they're a pure standalone software So take in my prepared remarks, I talked about the App Orchestrator. There's a great example of a product that will be cloud based, can fit on many different PAC systems and work with multi vendor equipment and customers may decide that at one hospital or their whole network they want it And so they could pay for one on-site capability via SaaS, they could pay for multiple. And then riding upon that will be applications from other third parties. And we will have an opportunity to say, you'll get 70%, we'll take 30% as an enabler into our broader installed base and others. And so there's a multifaceted way. Speaker 200:48:45I would say in 2024, one of our big operating priorities or big priorities we have is really building out this go to market and monetization model, but it's going to evolve everything from more value to a piece hardware which we can actually attain more value for all the way through different almost down to by the use capabilities. That again, that's going to expand over multiple years, but that's how we're thinking about it and putting in place the right type of SaaS backbone for the whole company. Operator00:49:17Thank you very much. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 400:49:26And that will come from Operator00:49:27the line of Graeme Doyle with UBS. Your line is open. Speaker 200:49:32Hey, Graham. Speaker 1000:49:33Good morning, guys. Thanks a lot for taking my questions. Could we just touch on China again, just to clarify one of the statements earlier? You said you're expecting no growth, but also negative growth in the first half. And just is it negative or no growth, I. Speaker 1000:49:47E, flat? And just for the full year, are you expecting China to grow? And then just a quick clarification one after that on the order book. Thank you. Speaker 300:49:57Sure. On China, we expect a decline in the first half. But remember, in Q1 of 2023 and Q2 of 2023, We had around 20% growth. So, we've always kind of modeled the decline in the first half, growth in the second half. And as a result, we're expecting growth for the year. Speaker 1000:50:18Perfect. That's super clear. And then just on the orders, I think you mentioned Quite a sizable multiyear contract win. Does that get all booked in the Q4, 2023 as well then? Speaker 200:50:32Yes, Graham, what I actually I think referenced was over the year multiple enterprise deals that we won that amount to over $2,500,000,000 Our current process is as we bring in significant amounts of orders. We typically don't book out beyond a 2 year window of our orders. So if we have something that's captured for 5, 6, 10 years, we aren't actually booking years 7 excuse me, 3 and beyond in our current order book. That's not our approach that we implement. So the order we put in the 3% growth are very near term orders that we won in the Q4 that we'll see play out in 'twenty four and 'twenty five. Speaker 1000:51:21Perfect. A really cheeky quick one. On that Photoncante, you brought it up earlier. Is it your expectation that on a, I don't know, like a, call it, a 5 year view, this becomes kind of the standard of care within CT more broadly as it becomes economic? And we should expect that this most CTs in Europe and certainly the U. Speaker 1000:51:40S. Become photon counting? Speaker 200:51:43I think 5 years is a little bit optimistic. I mean, I think I've heard what others have said as well. I think in the 10 year window, That's probably more realistic. Keep in mind, 85% of all CTs in the world tend to be more mid tier value based products. Some of them sell for $200,000 $300,000 in different parts of the world. Speaker 200:52:06So it's a wide community of what's in a CT. Your point is on the premium end and stuff, I think in the 5 year window, yes, you're going to see a significant higher percentage of Photon County. Speaker 1000:52:18Perfect. Thank you very much guys. I'll jump back in the queue. Speaker 300:52:20Thank you, Robert. Operator00:52:22Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Anthony Petrone with Mizuho. Your line is open. Speaker 200:52:35Morning, Anthony. Speaker 1100:52:36Good morning, Pete. How are you? Good morning, Jay. Congrats on a solid year post spin. And maybe I'll start, Pete, with just question on Theragnostics, you have it in the slide deck here. Speaker 1100:52:48Obviously, GE Healthcare well positioned on the diagnostic side. You mentioned Growth organically and inorganically, just wondering how you're thinking about the other pieces of Theragnostics. You have therapeutics and supply chain, You can grow more in diagnostics. So just maybe your thoughts on how that space is consolidating and where GE can play specifically? And I'll have a follow-up for Jay on capital allocation. Speaker 200:53:15Yes. No, Anthony, it's a good question. I mean, obviously, at the baseline level, As these therapies take off, PETCT is a critical product. I mean, for all practical purposes, it's a limited world of folks that manufacturing PETCT and PETMR, we're one of them. We think to do this effectively, you have to have a multi head SACCT, we have a 12 head system called the Star Guide. Speaker 200:53:43None of our major competitors really have that product. Why is that important? If you have a traditional 2 head, it's an hour to do the study versus you can do it in 15 minutes or less. You can't run the fact that the diagnostics department if you don't have a multi head camera. So that's kind of the stakes. Speaker 200:53:59The next thing is you need to integrate those images and look at them together to diagnose, look at radiation dose. Patient might have had External beam radiation, they get radiation from the drug itself and you look at both of those. MEMS software is really the best in the world. They're going to be part of us post close. That's going to bring a missing link. Speaker 200:54:20It's also a capability that really nobody else in the industry has when you couple that with those products. And then on the has when you couple that with those products. And then on the tracer side, we're the only company that has the equipment and manufacturers the tracers. Others distribute, But there's a big difference between just shipping it around and making it. And so we have the logistics capability. Speaker 200:54:39We also have the manufacturing capability. And we also make the cyclotrons, which again are particle accelerators that actually help create many of these. So there's multiple opportunities here, either working with some of the pharmaceutical companies directly, playing a leadership role with customers on how you deliver these doses. And I just remind everybody, Unlike other drugs where you can just deliver in any center, these products have a half life, which means the moment you make them, they're degrading. And so how you actually take an order and get it to a patient that day for the right potency is one of the things we have expertise in. Speaker 200:55:17So Again, as these grow and what we're excited about is the impact they're going to have on patients, effectiveness and low side effects. We've got most of the capabilities to play different roles throughout the growth of this and that's what we're planning to do. Speaker 1100:55:33Helpful. And Jay, real quick on capital allocation, uses of cash for this year. Is M and A more the priority? You did $1,000,000,000 debt pay down And then just free cash flow conversion that will be helpful. Thanks. Speaker 300:55:46Sure. Thanks for the question. I think 2023 was really a great case study in terms of how we think about capital allocation. It starts to your point with free cash flow. We were able to deliver 95% conversion, which we were very proud of. Speaker 300:56:05We did a lot of work on the balance sheet, on working capital balances, collections on inventory turns, which I commented on in my prepared remarks. And the result was we exceeded our cash flow expectations by a good margin. And we set up 2024 with another solid 90% conversion rate and free cash flow growth. And so then the question is, how do you deploy that? Well, in 2023, The first thing we like to do is reinvest in the business to accelerate growth. Speaker 300:56:39And so what we were able to do is drive EBIT expansion of 60 basis points despite 20 ish percent growth in R and D and we also significantly expanded CapEx investments. So point 1, reinvest in the business. The second thing we like to do is strategic M and A. Over the course of 2023, we announced 3 deals, Emactus, Caption and MIMS. All of them have the profile of deals that we like, strategically relevant, accretive to our business, really solid ROIs over time. Speaker 300:57:16So all of them hit the profile and made us a bet more competitive in the marketplace with more offerings for our customers. Also in 2023, we made a number of minority investments that allow us to learn about new areas, in a sort of experimental manner. So we don't talk too much about all of those investments, but we make quite a few in 2023 and over time we expect these to yield dividends. We also like to focus on the balance sheet. So we paid down $1,000,000,000 in debt in 2023, significantly enhancing the financial flexibility going forward. Speaker 300:57:54And finally, we paid a dividend. So I guess the way I think about it, everything was on display in 2023 in terms of how we think about a disciplined capital allocation strategy. And as we move forward, I would expect to see more of the same. All of that though, as I said at the beginning of this, was is unlocked by cash flow generation, which is a real area of focus for us. Speaker 1100:58:19Thank you very much. Speaker 300:58:21Thanks, Anthony. Operator00:58:22Thank you. We do have time for one final question and that will come from the line of Patrick Wood with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Speaker 1000:58:33Amazing. Thank you. Speaker 1200:58:34Hey, I'll keep it to 1 just given the timing. I'll make it a short one. Thank you for the detail on the pricing side. Just kind of curious like how that's flowing through on the service book. Obviously, you get the 1 year warranty, but Where you're resigning service agreements, are you seeing a similar kind of price uplift to what you're getting on the hardware side so that, that traditional ratio between the two is remaining Relatively constant, just curious what you're seeing there. Speaker 1100:58:58Thanks. Speaker 200:58:59Yes, Patrick. We've benefited from multi year contract has been able to actually have escalators on, not only just on upfront, but then actually have escalators through the years. And then also we have Parts, significant large parts business as well as time and material. And then the other aspect of it is different services that we offer. It might be asset tracking tools, things of that nature. Speaker 200:59:26But I would say we've had the good fortune across the board to be able to get some price across all those different vehicles in service. I would say the other thing and it's kind of a given point, but it's important to note that when services are really one of our highest margin offerings that we have. When you are gaining share, as I mentioned earlier on the call, ultimately to your point, when you get to month 13, that becomes a service track. And that higher mix of service over time also is an important driver of our future business. Thanks for that question. Speaker 600:59:59Thank you. Operator01:00:01Thank you. And Mr. Arduini, I'll turn the call back over to you for any closing remarks. Speaker 201:00:06Thank you. Thank you. Look, I'd just like to Thank you so much to our colleagues here at GE Healthcare. It's been a great year. There's been a lot of great work and tireless efforts to go into 1st year as a public company. Speaker 201:00:21But importantly, with all of that, the focus on our patients and customers to deliver safe, high quality products that make a difference, It's at the core of our lean mindset. It's customers first. We delivered on all of our commitments that we set to deliver in 2023. And as Jay and as we spoke about really sets us up well for 2024. Investments we made in R and D are coming out. Speaker 201:00:45We have a full pipeline of new products and new clinical indications. With that, I'd just like to say thank you for joining the call today and we look forward to connecting with you at one of our upcoming conferences. Thank you so much.Read morePowered by