Petco Health and Wellness Q4 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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March 13, 2024

There are 12 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Petco 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Cathy Yao. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and thank you for joining Petco's 4th quarter and full year 2023 earnings conference call. In addition to the earnings release, there is a presentation available to download on our website at ir.petco.com summarizing our results. On the call with me today are Mike Mohan, Petco's Interim Chief Executive Officer and Brian LaRose, Petco's Chief Financial Officer. Before they begin, I would like to remind everyone that on this call, we will make certain forward looking statements, which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. These risks and uncertainties include those set out in our earnings materials and SEC filings.

Speaker 1

In addition, on today's call, we will refer to certain non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these measures can be found in our earnings release, presentation and SEC filings. And finally, during the Q and A portion of today's call, we ask that you please keep to one question and one follow-up. We will allow for 30 minutes for Q and A. With that, let me turn it over to Mike.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Kathy. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm going to spend some time discussing the leadership changes that we've announced today, while Brian will take us through our financial results and initial expectations for the year ahead. As you will have seen from today's news, I've been appointed by the Board to serve as interim CEO, while we conduct a comprehensive search for a new CEO. Ron Coughlin has stepped down as CEO and Chairman and will serve as an advisor to the Board during the transition.

Speaker 2

I'm honored to be here with you today and serve such an incredible company with a mission that matters to improve the lives of pets and pet parents. I've served as Petco's Lead Independent Director for the last 3 years and I'm proud to be stepping in to lead our 29,000 dedicated Petco partners who bring our mission to life every day. The Board has spent some time with the executive team over the past several months to assess our operating and financial results. I'm confident that given our position as a leader in pet health and wellness, we will be able to improve performance in the years ahead. I want to share my initial perspective on the business and what we'll do to drive improvement.

Speaker 2

Petco is an iconic brand in the pet care category that is benefiting from the long term megatrends of humanization and premiumization, supporting consistent and resilient category growth in a market that is expected to approach $200,000,000,000 in sales by the end of this decade. ECCO has a combination of differentiated products, a commitment to veterinary and other services in an omnichannel model that taken together is unmatched in our industry. With the only full service pet health and wellness ecosystem, Petco sits at the forefront of the industry and is uniquely positioned to win for the long term. While we have made progress in a number of key areas over the last several years, I recognize we have not been executing the way we need to in a number of areas to deliver on our full potential. Most critically, we have not adapted quickly enough to recent changes in consumer preferences.

Speaker 2

1st, we did not anticipate the magnitude of the shift to value in both our consumables and discretionary business. And second, we did not expect customers to pull back as quickly as they have and for this duration when spending on discretionary items. As a result, our in store and omni channel offering was not appropriately aligned with our customers' needs. This has led to 2 fundamental problems that we need to address with speed. 1, an erosion of market share as customers sought out alternatives and 2, a significant decline in profitability.

Speaker 2

Our work here has already begun with the reintroduction of value brands in our consumable business and adjusting our discretionary offering to provide more balanced price points. But simply reintroducing these products into our assortment is not enough. This more balanced assortment must be supportive of a stronger retail and online customer experiences and more disciplined execution. This starts with effective marketing to both existing and potential customers. It builds with strong in store and online merchandising.

Speaker 2

It is further supported by the education of Petco Partners to ensure they can effectively sell our complete offering. And finally, it needs to be supported by effective supply chain management that delivers inventory profitability with high end stocks across our store base and efficient delivery to omnichannel customers. Going beyond these critical near term actions, we have to engage pet parents more effectively. We are focused on executing against high quality top of funnel customer acquisition and long term retention, so more customers benefit from the full petco offering. In doing so, we'll double down on our efforts to maximize the opportunity to fully leverage the competitive advantages and opportunities we have with our in store and online customer experience.

Speaker 2

And we'll act purposely to connect with pet parents to drive share gains and grow margins through improved baskets and a quality of sales in a meaningful and substantial way. Improving our customer experience, retail execution and overall cost structure will help us drive profit stabilization in the near term and growth in the medium and long term. I plan to have us work against fewer and more clearly stated priorities and outcomes while keeping our teams energized, supported and equipped to execute against achievable goals and making progress against promises we commit to for ourselves, our customers and shareholders. Throughout my over 36 year career in retail, one truth has remained. This journey is never linear, but it must be built on a world class retail experience.

Speaker 2

If our comprehensive ecosystem is the engine that drives Petco's success, then the trust and advocacy of our customers, vendors and partners is the fuel that powers it. This principle will sit at the heart of everything we do beginning with our employee experience. This is an exceptional business that serves millions of pets every year. I believe that by focusing on our mission, while addressing the realities of the business' performance with clear, consistent and focused prioritization, we can unlock Petco's full potential. Finally, on behalf of the Board and all of us at Petco, I want to thank Ron for his leadership over the last 6 years.

Speaker 2

Ron has overseen the evolution of Petco as a full service omni channel retailer and champion for pet health and wellness. We are grateful for his leadership, dedication and passion for pets, people and our business. Thank you for your time. I'll now pass it over to Brian to cover our financial performance. Thanks, Mike.

Speaker 2

I'd like to start by thanking our Petco partners for their relentless efforts in 2023. While we experienced a challenging year, they continue to do everything they can to deliver the very best for pets and pet parents day in and day out. Turning to numbers. For the quarter, net revenue was $1,700,000,000 an increase of 6% year over year, which includes an extra week in the 4th quarter. For the full year, net revenue was $6,300,000,000 up 4% year over year inclusive of the extra week, which contributed approximately $120,000,000 in revenue in Q4 and for the full year.

Speaker 2

In Q4, comparable sales on a like for like fiscal basis were down 1% driven primarily by the absence of discretionary recovery and lapping a more inflationary environment. While we saw early gains in revenue from the aggregate impact of our assortment actions, they were relatively small in magnitude for the quarter. For the full year, comp sales were up 2%. Unless otherwise specified, the results I'll discuss are on an as reported basis including the extra week in Q4. In the Q4, our services team delivered 17% revenue growth driven by ongoing strength in our vet hospitals, mobile clinics and grooming services.

Speaker 2

In merchandise, consumables was up 9% year over year reflecting the impact of lapping prior year inflation coupled with the pricing actions we took in the Q3. Our discretionary supplies and companion animals businesses experienced continued softness down 1% year over year. Moving down the P and L, Q4 gross profit was $606,000,000 down from $627,000,000 in the prior year. Gross margin for the quarter was 36.2 percent, a decline of 3 50 basis points driven by our investment in bringing value brands into our consumables assortment and ongoing discretionary headwinds. In Q4, we also took a $21,000,000 inventory write down charge as a direct one time response to our assortment actions that were taken in connection with our operational reset, with approximately 60% of the charge related to lower velocity supply SKUs and 40% related to consumable SKUs that will no longer be part of the assortment.

Speaker 2

This charge was a necessary step to optimize our SKU footprint with our reset and our reset is now completed and we believe we are in a good place with inventory. Ex inventory reset, gross margins would have been 37.5%. In terms of the new brands, although it is still early days, we are pleased to say that we are seeing positive momentum in both transactions and basket leading to a small, but positive net impact on revenue from our assortment and pricing changes. This has translated to positive customer net adds in the 4th quarter suggesting early momentum from our reset. In Q4, SG and A as a percentage of revenue increased from 34.8% to 36.2% year over year as a result of ongoing investments made in store labor as well as increased depreciation.

Speaker 2

Q4 adjusted EBITDA was 105,300,000 dollars down 33 percent with an adjusted EBITDA margin rate of 6.3 percent down 3 70 basis points year over year. Q4 adjusted EPS was $0.02 compared to $0.20 per share in the prior year. Turning to the balance sheet, our liquidity remains strong with $572,000,000 inclusive of $125,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents and $447,000,000 of availability on our revolving credit facility. As a reminder, we also maintain callers on roughly 2 thirds of our debt, which have helped mitigate the impact of rising rates this year. Our Q4 CapEx of $49,000,000 is down 26% year over year.

Speaker 2

I'll now turn to our 2024 outlook. Given the change in leadership, we are not providing full year guidance at this time. Instead, we are providing revenue, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS guidance for fiscal Q1 only. For the Q1, should current demand conditions persist, we would expect revenue approximately $1,500,000,000 adjusted EBITDA of approximately $70,000,000 and adjusted EPS of approximately negative 0 point 0 $6 For 2024, which as a reminder will be a 52 week year, the environment remains uncertain and as a result we are taking a prudent approach to our plans for the year. From a full year perspective, we expect net interest expense of approximately $145,000,000 inclusive of the estimated impacts of our hedges against the forward rate curve and $272,000,000 weighted average fully diluted shares.

Speaker 2

Approximately 140,000,000 dollars of capital expenditures including the build out of approximately 5 to 10 vet locations. In the meantime, our mobile clinics business continues to perform ahead of our expectations and we're confident that the demand there will help support that economics. To provide some additional color regarding assumptions for the full year, we are currently not expecting a substantive change to the underlying demand environment, including discretionary. With respect to profitability, there are a number of actions that are being contemplated as part of the leadership transition. We will communicate as those plans are finalized.

Speaker 2

We do expect stabilization of profitability as the year Although we are seeing early traction from implementing our assortment and pricing actions, we believe the scaled revenue and profit benefits will take time to phase in increasing throughout the year. We remain on track to achieve $40,000,000 in cost benefits in year 1 from the cost opportunities we identified as part of the planned $150,000,000 in run rate savings by year end 2025. That said, the cost benefits will be partially offset by additional investments into store labor to ensure that we deliver a differentiated hands on customer experience in our stores as well as mitigation against gross margin. On capital allocation, we remain focused on our balance sheet as we navigate this environment leading to a deceleration in our pace of that build outs and a balanced approach between investments and cash flow. To close, our focal points this year are disciplined execution, operating in a more efficient manner with a focus on expenses, stabilizing margins and cash.

Speaker 2

Thank you for your time. And with that, we'll be happy to take your questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Stephen Forbes with Guggenheim. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Good morning. Mike, Brian, I wanted to focus on capital expenditures, the guide for the full year, maybe a 2 part question. Of the $140,000,000 can you break it down between maintenance and strategic CapEx? You mentioned 5 to 10 bed hospitals, but just how you're thinking about the broader sort of strategic initiatives here? And then although you're not providing full year guidance, was the $140,000,000 a result of sort of planning the business to a neutral free cash flow state or any sort of comments on where you sort of are bridging free cash flow for the year?

Speaker 2

Thanks for the question, Steve. Let me start with the announcement today. We're taking a disciplined approach to capital allocation. Your question specifically on how the $140,000,000 breaks down, that is the full year guide that approximately 140. I'll just tell you that you get kind of triple digits ish and north of that when you talk about maintenance and Beyond that, 5 to 10 vet builds, you know what that math is.

Speaker 2

It's Beyond that 5 to 10 vet builds, you know what that math is. It's 600 ks per bed and other 600 ks, 700 ks for the center store build out. There are some other projects that we have. We've been very mindful about balancing the investments this year against what we're trying to do on cash flow. I'm not going to get to a specific cash flow guide for you, but what I will tell you is that's a function of 3 knobs: earnings, working capital and CapEx.

Speaker 2

We've talked about CapEx. The most powerful of those three is earnings, Steve. And our focus is on bending the profitability curve of this company and improving profitability.

Speaker 3

And then just a quick follow-up. I don't know if we can maybe focus on the Q4 supplies trends or sort of what's implied by the Q1 sales guidance for supplies. But any way to help better understand like whether we're seeing any path to stability or any stabilization in Supplies trends or how that business today compares to I don't know if you want to baseline it back to 2019. Just is there any path to sort of stability in the underlying supplies trends now that you've reintroduced value brands and reengineered the assortment?

Speaker 2

Yes. Let me kind of help you with the revenue, Steve. So we reported down 1%. That's on that's with the extra week in there. We didn't break that 100 $20,000,000 extra revenue by subcategory.

Speaker 2

But if you do the math, you get to about the same decline rate as we've had the last couple of quarters in supplies and CA combined. So from a growth rate standpoint, there hasn't been stabilization. We've taken significant action on the cost side, on the assortment side in terms of pricing. So we're confident we have the right actions in place. We felt that it was most prudent to plan our year as if there is no meaningful change in the demand environment at the holistic level, but specifically to that category.

Operator

The next question comes from Kate McShane with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning. This is Mark Jordan on for Kate McShane. Thinking about the change in leadership that was announced today, can you help us better understand what the Board might be looking for in new leadership?

Speaker 2

Hey, Mark. Mike here. Thanks for the question. Appreciate it. Right now, we are really focused on improving our urgency and driving operational performance and profitability and really operating at a world class retail level.

Speaker 2

So from a board standpoint, we're doing a comprehensive search and we're looking for skills in that realm to help drive our business forward. Let me just add, Mike probably won't say this, but he's coming in with 36 years of retail experience with a reputation for operational excellence. So this is somebody who can come in and actually make meaningful change.

Speaker 4

Perfect. And just one follow-up if I could. Does this change anything with regard to the near term strategy that's communicated maybe going more down market with the value brands still committed to that?

Speaker 2

Yes. Mark, we're an iconic brand in advantage ecosystem. And if you look at how we think about our customer offerings and the reintroduction of value brands, it's just one part of our story of making sure we have the assortment that makes sense for our customers. We have work to do though to make sure our customers and our partners truly understand what we offer and make sure that they can navigate that entire assortment, but it fits well within our current strategy. Yes.

Speaker 2

And I would just add to you, whether it pertains to the reset or just adding more broadly to our portfolio, anytime we bring new offerings into our portfolio, job 1 is to make sure that those offerings are what the customer wants and that we're selling what they want, where they want it, how they want it at the right price. Over time, we need to make sure we continue to cultivate that assortment so that everything we bring in is it contributes profitably to the enterprise.

Operator

The next question comes from Peter Benedict with Baird. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning. Good morning, guys. First question is just around some of the near term opportunities to impact the business. Mike, I think you mentioned supply chain management. I'm just curious maybe any more detail there, what you guys can do on that front and related to that kind of on the customer experience side.

Speaker 5

Is that a suggestion that you're going to be putting more labor back into the stores? Or I'm just kind of curious on the store level what you envision on that front?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Peter. It's pretty early to give you some specifics, but I'm going to start with the customer experience and then I'll get to your supply chain question. When you look at the broad offering we have of products and services, we definitely have work to do to improve our in store and online shopping experience. So our customers can navigate our breadth of offerings. We have a very unique proposition needs to be clear for people when they shop us in store and online and that work can commence immediately and it has.

Speaker 2

And as we think about being an omnichannel retailer, we have this unique position of having our 1500 stores as pickup locations, but there's a group of consumers who want merchandise shipped to them. And we have work to do in our supply chain operations to make sure that we can find the most effective way of getting products to people and the team is making progress there. I don't know if you could add some thoughts on that. Yes, I would just start Peter by saying our profitability is unacceptable. We recognize that we need to look at every vector across the spectrum.

Speaker 2

So while you mentioned supply chain, I'll tell you it starts at the top of the P and L with sales. We're meeting customers' needs across our entire assortment. Within gross margin, obviously sales flows through gross margin, but there are multiple components of that. There's a broader merchandising costs and supply chain opportunities. And then of course within SG and A, we will look at everything.

Speaker 2

While we've done a while SG and A this quarter was up, part of that was investment in store labor. We do expect some additional investment in store labor in the Q1 with other offsets within SG and A, but we have opportunities across SG and A and gross margin. Got it. That's helpful. And I

Speaker 5

guess my follow-up would be, Neil, try Steve's question a little bit. Is there any opportunity within working capital as you think about 'twenty four? I think you've spoken to there being some, but is working capital the type of thing that could be maybe neutral to cash flow in 2024? Is that a reasonable starting place? Just curious what you're working on from a working capital standpoint.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 2

It's a good question, Peter. Of those three levers, I will tell you again, earnings is the most powerful lever we have for free cash flow. We have taken, a very strategic approach to capital this year and reduced that number down to $140,000,000 We did a good job in working capital this year. If you look at the free cash if you look at the cash flow statement, what we did on inventory and payables, we made meaningful progress this year. So I don't want to over commit on working capital.

Speaker 2

I would tell you there are opportunities, probably not to the size and scale that we saw in 2023. The biggest lever we have is earnings.

Operator

The next question comes from Oliver Wintermantel with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Yes, thanks. I had a follow-up question on gross margins been down for the last several quarters. Brian, you mentioned trying to be more stable on profitability. Can you maybe lay out how you want to stabilize gross margin in this kind of environment with consumables still very strong and the value offerings? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks for the question, Oliver. Let me do it in the construct of the Q1 guide. I will tell you if you look at the guide relative to last year, the implied decline in dollars, vast majority of that is in gross profit, with a lesser much lesser impact in SG and A. We have investments in store labor offset by OpEx savings in other areas, not one for 1, but close.

Speaker 2

So most of that's gross profit. So it's a combination of three things, Oliver. It's mix, it's margin pressure in both consumables and discretionary items and it's the pricing actions that we implemented in the second half of last year. So how do we improve it? Number 1, you have a maturation of the pricing actions that we took.

Speaker 2

So we took those in the Q3. We do expect those to continue quarter in and quarter out to improve both from a profitability and revenue standpoint. The value brands will continue to scale and contribute profitably. Our vet business has some maturity to do. So we've scaled back the vet bills to 5 to 10 this year and that business as it matures will contribute profitably.

Speaker 2

But to be quite blunt, Oliver, we got to get after costs. If we look at what's our gross margin line that it's cost and it's assortment, right products, right place, right price and right time.

Speaker 6

Got it. Thank you. And then the follow-up is, you guys mentioned net adds were turning positive in 4th Q. Could you maybe give us some information on how much how many customers you added and what the recent trends are? Thank you.

Speaker 2

The only thing I'll tell you Oliver is yes, we had net adds this quarter. For us, it's all about lifetime value and making sure we have the highest quality customers. So we'll continue to invest in growing customers that continues to be important. But more importantly, it's making sure that we enhance the overall customer experience to support our profitability goals. So, we're not going to disclose a specific number.

Operator

The next question comes from Zack Fadem with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hey guys, this is David Lance on for Zack. Thanks for taking our questions. Are there any performance based reasons to step back on the vet hospital build out? Or is this all about cash preservation? And with that, could you talk about current revenue and profit contribution from vet hospitals and how are you thinking about the impact for next year?

Speaker 2

Yes, the answer to your first question is no. I mean, this is a Svet I'll start with I'll break it into 2 parts. Svet continues to be strategic for us. But we made a decision this year to balance capital allocation and return against what we are striving for in free cash flow. The vet business itself continues to perform not just in the hospitals, but our mobile vet clinic has been a tremendous, tremendous growth vehicle for us for the past call it 12 to 18 months, particularly in this environment.

Speaker 2

That's like capital, meets the customer where they want to be in this environment and we continue to see growth in that area. So we think overall that economics continue to track. So we'll continue to view this business strategically.

Speaker 7

Got it. That's helpful. And then supplies and companion animal were down high single digits on a normalized basis. How would you say this compares to the supplies category as a whole? And can you talk about any share shifts you're seeing to mass?

Speaker 2

You mean within that category as it compare, I mean the category is down. I think you could look at different numbers for the category, but the category is down. I think we're a little bit overweight in that category. So we've had a more overweight impact in terms of mix on our business. In terms of the share shifts, I will just acknowledge at the enterprise level, we have lost some share.

Speaker 2

Mike addressed that. That's one of our top priorities is to make sure we get that share back without compromising our profitability.

Operator

The next question comes from Steven Zaccone with Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Mike, good luck in the new role and Ron best wishes for the next step if you're listening. Question I had was on stabilizing your market share this year. How do you think about that?

Speaker 8

Like what are the key priorities? And the value brands that you put in the business, would you consider adding more value to the assortment if that's a way to win with the customer?

Speaker 2

Hey, Stephen, it's Mike. Thanks for the question and I appreciate your acknowledgment. I think if I look at market share, I first would start that we're participating in a really large and fragmented market and we just have low share. Independent of our current share performance, the opportunity is significant. And if I was frank with my assessment, which I tried to be in my prepared remarks, we have room in improvement needed on our retail fundamentals.

Speaker 2

And if I look at those priorities around creating experience that's easier to shop, having an assortment that makes sense, instilling more discipline on where we invest and how we fund it. It gives us business a ton of space to work on share opportunities in our categories and across our channel. So I would answer your question that way.

Speaker 8

Okay. And then, Brian, a question on just thinking about the top line because you made the comment you're not really expecting demand to change through the year. First quarter revenue guidance, the math I'm getting to is comps could be down like low to mid single digits. Is that wrong? And then how do we think about the cadence of the year if that is the trend in the Q1?

Speaker 2

Thanks Steve. Yes, that's how the math would scratch out in terms of the implied guide beyond that for the year. We're not going to comment beyond Q1. I will tell you, we made a comment that we would expect profitability trajectory to improve throughout the year. Certainly some of that would come with top line.

Operator

The next question comes from Anna Andreeva with Needham. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Great. Thanks so much and

Speaker 9

good morning guys. Thanks for taking our questions. I wanted to follow-up on the impairment charge that you took. So should we think that within consumables, it's some of the more premium brands that are no longer being carried by Petco? Just hoping to understand that a bit more.

Speaker 9

And then secondly, can you talk about the small town stores? Just remind us how are those performing? And are you pausing expansion with that concept as well? Thanks so much.

Speaker 2

Yes. First on the charge, Ana, no, that would not be the correct takeaway. When we look across the charge, it's for lower velocity skews in both supplies and consumables. So we mentioned that was consumables that will no longer be part of the assortment. Those are lower velocity.

Speaker 2

Our premium brands are great brands with high velocity in that space with great partnerships with those vendors. So I wouldn't say that's the right takeaway at all. Secondly, on the small town stores, they've tracked to our model. Ultimately, are we still investing there? Yes, it is scaled down, but we've been doing that for 3 or 4 quarters now.

Operator

The next question comes from Seth Basham with Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thanks a lot and good morning. My first question Mike is just in terms of your marketing strategy going forward, it seems like you think there's a disconnect between what Petco offers and what customers think you offer. How are you going to change that going forward? Yes, thanks for the question. I would just draw back to the rapid introduction or reintroduction of value brands to our assortment, which was incredible by the work that the team did.

Speaker 2

But you have to bring it all the way through and make sure customers understand that we have the most complete offering of products and services for pets and pet parents and we need to spend time attracting high quality customers at the top of the funnel, which to be fair, we're just starting to do. So if I look at the changes we've made, it takes time for customers to resonate with what the brand stands for. And we want to be the destination for pet parents to think about every single thing they need for their pet. And so we need to spend some time and investment there. That's helpful.

Speaker 2

And how are you considering the loyalty programs going forward? Any changes to the idle care or the other loyalty programs as you think about being able to attract all types of pet parents? No fundamental changes, Seth. I would tell you, we always continue to look at our loyalty programs. We had a good quarter in Care.

Speaker 2

We didn't talk about in the script, but we're up over 720,000 Vital Care Premier members. Those continue to be very good customers for us that sit in the top desk aisle of customer share wallet. We always look at those loyalty programs and we've talked in the past about that program continuing to evolve. So we still have the one offering, but I would expect it to evolve and not

Speaker 10

change fundamentally.

Operator

The next question comes from kumil Bhardwala with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hey guys, good morning. I guess there's a few things you're doing at the same time improving share and bringing down costs. When you think about competition and how they're behaving, those that are gaining share, are they just sort of naturally gaining share because of maybe channel mix or assortment? Or is there something execution related that you're also trying to address? And if that's the case, how do you balance bringing down your costs while addressing some execution issues?

Speaker 2

Yes. I would say I don't think at the holistic level the competitive environment has changed materially. I'll echo back some of Mike's comments. This is a super attractive market, has been for 30 plus years and will be in the future. That happens to be very fragmented.

Speaker 2

So our job is to make sure that we stabilize our own business, improve market share and do so profitably. So we are fundamentally focused on those things, market share, profit, cash. Got it. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Hi. This is Lauren Ng on for Simeon Gutman. My first question is on pet food inflation. Is there anything you can share on that? We've heard a lot of big players in retail talk about modest inflation for 2024 in food.

Speaker 11

Can you talk about how you're viewing this for the category? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. On a forward looking basis, I'm not going to comment on inflation. I will tell you that certainly what we saw in the if you normalize the consumables growth rate in the quarter, it would have been a deceleration and a big driver that was lapping the inflationary impacts of last year. So that would be similar to what you've heard from others.

Speaker 11

Okay. Got it. And my follow-up is just on traffic and ticket. I guess like relative to the 2019 baseline, can you talk about traffic and ticket trends in the business? And also if they got better or worse in Q4?

Speaker 11

And also any expectations embedded in guidance for Q1? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Well, I'm not going to get into that level of detail. I will tell you and specifically I'm not going to break traffic and take it down back into 2019. I will tell you that basket remains strong for us. I think the team has done an exceptional job. We have very, very good Petco partners in Our

Speaker 10

job is to make sure that we better support them in that endeavor. We give them the

Speaker 2

Our job is to make sure that we better support them in that endeavor. We give them the right products to sell to customers. We give them the right marketing support to get those products socialized with customers. And we give them the tools to actually do it. They're exceptional when they can do it.

Speaker 2

So Basket's been a big driver for us.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Kathy Yao for any closing remarks.

Speaker 1

This concludes today's earnings call. Thank you for joining.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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Key Takeaways

  • Leadership change: Mike Mohan has been named interim CEO after Ron Coughlin stepped down to an advisory role, with a board-led search underway for a permanent successor.
  • Strategic reset: Petco is reintroducing value brands and rebalancing its discretionary assortment to recapture market share and restore profitability by aligning marketing, merchandising and supply-chain execution.
  • Q4 financial results: Net revenue was $1.7 billion (+6% YoY including an extra week), while comps fell 1%, services grew 17%, consumables rose 9%, discretionary sales declined 1%, gross margin dropped to 36.2% with a $21 million inventory write-down, and adjusted EBITDA was $105.3 million (–33%).
  • Q1 and full-year outlook: First-quarter guidance calls for ~$1.5 billion in revenue, ~$70 million in adjusted EBITDA and roughly –$0.06 EPS, while 2024 will emphasize $40 million of cost savings, $140 million in CapEx and margin stabilization amid an uncertain demand environment.
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