NASDAQ:CNXC Concentrix Q1 2024 Earnings Report $54.88 +0.15 (+0.27%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$54.71 -0.17 (-0.31%) As of 05:29 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Concentrix EPS ResultsActual EPS$2.33Consensus EPS $2.36Beat/MissMissed by -$0.03One Year Ago EPSN/AConcentrix Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$2.40 billionExpected Revenue$2.38 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$22.75 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AConcentrix Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date3/26/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, March 26, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsConcentrix's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, June 25, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q2 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Concentrix Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 26, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Concentrix Fiscal First Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker's Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, David Stein, Vice President, Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, Josh, and good evening. Welcome to the Concentrix Q1 fiscal 2024 earnings call. This call is the property of Concentrix and may not be recorded or rebroadcast without the written permission of Concentrix. This call contains forward looking statements that address our expected future performance and that by their nature address matters that are uncertain. These uncertainties may cause our actual future results to be materially different than those expressed in our forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:05We do not undertake to update our forward looking statements as a result of new information or future expectations, events or developments. Please refer to today's earnings release and our most recent filings with the SEC for additional information regarding uncertainties that could affect our future financial results. This includes the risk factors provided in our annual report on Form 10 ks and in our other public filings with the SEC. Also during the call, we will discuss non GAAP financial measures, including adjusted free cash flow, non GAAP operating income, non GAAP operating margin, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, non GAAP net income, non GAAP EPS and constant currency revenue growth. A reconciliation of these non GAAP measures is available in the news release and on the company Investor Relations website under Financials. Speaker 100:02:03With me on the call today are Chris Caldwell, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Andre Valentine, our Chief Financial Officer. Chris will provide a summary of our operating performance and growth strategy, and Andre will cover our financial results and business outlook. Then we'll open the call for your questions. Now I'll turn the call over to Chris. Speaker 200:02:24Thank you, David. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for our Q1 2024 earnings call. We had a strong start to the year with solid Q1 financial performance, operational excellence across our business and a strong pipeline. Revenue increased 47% as reported and nearly 3% on a pro form a constant currency basis in the quarter, which was at the high end of our guide. Our growth reflects the differentiated offerings across our key verticals, particularly in retail, travel and e commerce and banking and financial services. Speaker 200:02:57Achieving our target underscores the strength of our business model, our diversified portfolio of clients and capabilities and the effectiveness of our execution. We delivered record 1st quarter non GAAP operating income and adjusted EBITDA, up 47% and 50% respectively. We're excited about the sustainable momentum in our Catalyst business, which posted growth for our 3rd consecutive quarter, resulting in year over year pro form a constant currency growth of over 10%. Catalyst return to double digit growth is a testament to the successful execution of driving integrated high value technology offerings into our client base. As a reminder, our Catalyst business includes our data engineering, advanced analytics, application design and development, platform integration and cloud transformation practices as well as our strategy consulting and CX Enterprise Technology Services team. Speaker 200:03:54Our pipeline is strong with our preferred mix of transformational and technology led deals. Some of this pipeline comes from sales traction and commercial cross selling synergies from the WebHelp combination. A few examples of wins in the quarter include a top European retailer signing a tech led solution that includes our generative AI agent automation technology, analytics and ongoing services to take care of their customers. While a services client from Webhelp, Concentrix was able to introduce technology and transformation to increase the value of the relationship for both parties. We also won a public transportation agency in Asia Pacific that chose us to provide a CCaaS technology platform, automation, analytics and technical teams to support their customer base. Speaker 200:04:43And then finally, a large global consumer products company in Europe awarded us a contract to design, build and run a CCaaS instance in over 40 markets as their managed service provider, including custom software development to improve their customer experience. This example was a services client of both Concentrix and Webhelp that turned to us for an integrated technology solution since we knew their business so well on the global stage. To understand why we are pushing automation so heavily in our business, one example of scale I can share with you is for 1 of our region's largest airlines. We previously handled 90% 95% Speaker 300:05:22of the airline's transactions Speaker 200:05:22through a voice channel with the more than 50% of transactions have been automated. With this implementation of technology, we reduced the number of game changers needed by close to 500, while the remaining game changers process the more complex transactions. With the growth of the client's business, our revenue and gross margin with this client are higher today than before the introduction of automation, while also raising the client's NPS for their customers. That's why in the Q1 of 2024, we automated significant portions of over 60,000,000 transactions for our clients, yet we're still able to grow our revenue. Our technology led approach with clients continues to demonstrate we are successfully integrating automation solutions into client projects, solidifying our position as a leader in this field. Speaker 200:06:22Our investment in AI tools remain key priority and we're increasing our investment to accelerate deployment of the cutting edge solutions. While this investment is impacting margins in the short term, we believe that this increased investment will allow us to demonstrate faster to the market why we see generative AI as a benefit. To be clear, much of this is our own intellectual property we have developed that is now deployed in hundreds of our clients. We have an extensive R and T department that is innovating internally for our own workforce as well as for customers around all forms of automation including generative AI. Earlier this month, we announced the creation of a dedicated technology product organization led by our new Chief Product Officer, Ryan Peterson, underscoring our commitment to and investing in scalable technology. Speaker 200:07:11Examples of the platforms we are driving to scale include our enhanced large language intelligence for enterprises or ELLI platform that uses the power of generative AI to help CX leaders understand customer feedback from millions of transactions more efficiently and effectively. Our marketing engagement platform built on sales force that combined with our custom application helps businesses run marketing campaigns that are globally consistent, but have local and regional intimacy. And finally, our payment integrated analytics platform that automates complicated payment processes detecting and reducing fraud and mistakes. As you can see from these examples, we have robust offerings that drive automation, enhance results for our clients and deepen long term relationships. Regarding the WebHelp integration, we remain on track to achieve the anticipated cost synergies. Speaker 200:08:05Importantly, the combination has come together very quickly in the areas that matter most, our delivery of global solutions for our clients and our go to market motion. We are confident that we will continue to thrive in generating significant value for our clients and shareholders. For the remainder of 2024, we maintain our outlook for sustained revenue growth, profit improvement, strong cash flow generation and responsible use of capital throughout the rest of the year. Given our confidence in our outlook and our future prospects, we are committed to making between March 1, 2024 and the end of our fiscal year, approximately doubling the capital return through share repurchases from the prior year. This will not stop us from rapidly reducing leverage over the balance of 2024 as we committed when we completed the WebHelp transaction. Speaker 200:09:00In closing, I would like to thank our dedicated game changers for their hard work and commitment to excellence and our clients for their trust and business. Now I'll turn the call over to Andre. Speaker 400:09:11Thank you, Chris, and hello, everyone. I'll begin with a look at our financial results and then discuss our business outlook. Our performance in the Q1 was a solid start to the year. Revenue was at the top end of our guidance range and we achieved our profitability range for the quarter. 1st quarter revenue was $2,400,000,000 On a pro form a basis, as if the WebHelp combination was completed at the beginning of 2023, currency revenue growth was approximately 2.8%. Speaker 400:09:43Revenue increases with clients in key verticals such as retail, travel and e commerce and banking and financial services led the way. On a pro form a basis, revenue from retail, travel and e commerce clients grew 11% year over year. Pro form a revenue from banking, financial services and insurance clients grew 4%. Our other clients vertical grew 2% and revenue from technology and consumer electronics clients grew by 1% on a pro form a basis. Revenue from communications and media clients decreased by 4% on a pro form a basis, primarily due to lower volumes from a few North American communications clients continuing to trend from previous quarters. Speaker 400:10:27Turning to profitability, non GAAP operating income was $319,000,000 in the first quarter, up $102,000,000 compared with the Q1 of 2023. Our non GAAP operating margin was 13.3%, the same as the Q1 last year. Adjusted EBITDA was $384,000,000 up 129,000,000 dollars year over year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 16.0%, up 40 basis points from the Q1 of 2023. Flow through from revenue growth and efficiency gains across our business more than offset investments to ramp new programs and accelerate investment in AI development and deployment. Speaker 400:11:10On a pro form a basis, 1st quarter profitability metrics improved as follows: non GAAP operating income was up $12,000,000 and non GAAP operating margin was up 30 basis points compared with last year. Adjusted EBITDA was up $14,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA margin was up 30 basis points from last year. Non GAAP net income was $176,000,000 in the quarter compared with $136,000,000 in the Q1 of last year. Non GAAP EPS was $2.57 per share compared with $2.59 per share in the Q1 of 2023. GAAP results for the Q1 of 2024 included $116,000,000 in amortization of intangibles, $30,000,000 in expenses related to the Web Health combination and integration, dollars 22,000,000 in share based compensation expense, $3,000,000 in step up depreciation, a $15,000,000 change in acquisition contingent consideration, $7,000,000 in net foreign currency losses and $4,000,000 in imputed interest related to the seller's note issued in connection with the combination. Speaker 400:12:26While our cash generation in the quarter reflects typical seasonality, cash generation in the quarter was further impacted by a one time large client payment delay and bringing forward some integration expenses related to the combination. The client payment was received early in the Q2 and we expect integration expenses to moderate over the course of To provide a better view of cash generation in the quarter, we've added an adjusted free cash flow metric that isolates and eliminates the impact of the Webhelp factoring program that we have continued since the combination. This adjustment aims to provide a clear understanding of cash generation by eliminating the temporary impact of increases and decreases in outstanding factored accounts receivable. During the quarter, the amount of factored accounts receivable decreased by $22,000,000 Turning to the balance sheet. At the end of the Q1, cash and cash equivalents were $235,000,000 and total debt was $5,030,000,000 Net debt was $4,802,000,000 at the end of the first quarter. Speaker 400:13:40Net leverage stood at 3.0x pro form a adjusted EBITDA at quarter end. With the seasonal pattern of strong free cash flow expected in Q2 and expected to continue for the balance of the year, we plan to achieve a meaningful reduction of net debt and net leverage beginning in the Q2 and continuing through the end of 2024. We're committed to our plan to reduce net leverage to close to 2x adjusted EBITDA within 2 years of the close of the WebHelp combination. Our commitment to investment grade principles continues. Accordingly, our capital allocation priorities are to drive organic growth, realize integration synergies related to the combination, repay debt, while continuing a disciplined program of returning capital to our shareholders through our dividend and disciplined share repurchases. Speaker 400:14:32During the Q1, we repurchased approximately 240,000 shares of our stock for approximately $22,000,000 at an average price of approximately $90 per share and we paid $21,000,000 through our quarterly dividend. At quarter end, the remaining authorization on our share repurchase plan was approximately $268,000,000 Our liquidity remains strong at $1,450,000,000 including our over $1,000,000,000 line of credit, which is undrawn. Now I'll turn my attention to the business outlook for the Q2 and the full year 2024. For the Q2, we expect revenue to be in a range of $2,325,000,000 to $2,372,000,000 based on current exchange rates. This reflects approximately 1% to 3% pro form a constant currency growth, net of an approximately 160 basis point exchange rate headwind. Speaker 400:15:31Pro form a revenue, assuming the WebHelp combination occurred at the beginning of 2023, would have been $2,339,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023. In terms of profitability, in the Q2, we expect non GAAP operating income in a range of 320 dollars to $330,000,000 At the midpoint of our guidance, this equates to a non GAAP operating income margin of approximately 13.8%, an increase of 10 basis points over the prior year and 60 basis points on a pro form a basis. On a pro form a basis, non GAAP operating income was $309,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Our non GAAP EPS expectations for the Q2 are a range of $2.55 per share to $2.70 per share. We expect interest expense in the Q2 to be in a range of $78,000,000 to $80,000,000 excluding $4,000,000 of imputed interest on the seller's note. Speaker 400:16:31We expect a non GAAP effective tax rate of approximately 26% to 27%. We expect weighted average diluted share count of approximately 65 500,000 shares. For the Q2, we estimate that about 4% of net income will be attributable to participating securities and about 96% of total net income will be attributable to common shares. Finally, based on our strong start and continued confidence in our strategy and execution, we're affirming our full year 2024 guidance. We expect 2024 revenue to be in a range of $9,510,000,000 to $9,701,000,000 reflecting approximately 1% to 3% pro form a constant currency growth, net of an approximately 70 basis point exchange rate headwind. Speaker 400:17:22We expect non GAAP operating income in a range of 1,390,000,000 to $1,450,000,000 which represents a 14.8% margin at the midpoint, an increase of 90 basis points on a pro form a basis. We continue to expect to realize 1st year synergies of $65,000,000 The current run rate is approximately $65,000,000 on an annualized basis. Our non GAAP EPS expectations for the full year remain in a range of $11.69 per share to $12.50 per share. We expect full year interest expense to be in a range of $300,000,000 to $304,000,000 excluding $60,000,000 of imputed interest on the seller's note, an effective tax rate of approximately 26% to 27% and a weighted average diluted share count of approximately 65,300,000 shares. In terms of cash flow, we expect adjusted free cash flow of $700,000,000 in 2024, inclusive of acquisition and integration costs. Speaker 400:18:30This assumes no change in the amount of factored accounts receivable from the beginning of the year. This will position us to further reduce our net leverage to approximately 2.5x adjusted EBITDA by year end, while committing to the enhanced share repurchase activity Chris mentioned earlier. Our business outlook and cash flow expectations We remain optimistic about the opportunities ahead. Most importantly, we are executing our strategic plan. We are confident in our ability to deliver our full year guidance for revenue, profitability and cash flow. Speaker 400:19:12Thank you for your continued support, and we look forward to updating you on our progress in quarters to come. With that, Josh, please open the line for questions. Operator00:19:23Thank Our first question comes from Joseph Vafi with Canaccord Genuity. You may proceed. Speaker 500:19:50Hey guys. Good afternoon. Good results. Nice to see the reiteration of the guide. A lot to look at here. Speaker 500:20:00Chris, a lot of interesting prepared remarks here this quarter. I thought we kind of drill down a little bit. You hadn't talked about catalysts all that much here. The last couple of quarters looks like perhaps they are seeing a bit of a tailwind from kind of AI related activities across your customer base. So thought maybe we could drill down on that a little bit to begin with and kind of I guess a high level update on kind of the puts and takes of AI across your customers and what they're talking about with the most recent updates on what they're thinking about the technology? Speaker 500:20:45And then I'll have a follow-up. Speaker 200:20:47Yes, for sure, Joe. So a couple of things. Just in terms of Catalyst, we are really happy with it returning back to double digit growth. That's a combination of sort of strength across a number of different areas, not only sort of CCaaS application deployment, our analytics business is doing nicely, strategy and consulting is doing nicely in our development business, which has an AI component is definitely getting some strength from that. That's not only the AI we do. Speaker 200:21:15We also do a lot of automation and AI that's built into solutions that doesn't get classified as catalyst revenue that goes through the rest of our client success business. And so you kind of have to see the whole picture to see all the services that we offer. That being said, we are very happy because we are seeing a lot more demand of clients coming to us looking for integration services and looking for deployment of technology. And we expect to see that continue. Just in terms of AI, we continue to have literally hundreds and hundreds of conversations with clients. Speaker 200:21:51We're continuing to deploy our own tools. We're now up to 100 of our own clients who are using our tools that we've developed internally for productivity gains and for better outcomes and better insights into what we do for our clients. We're also continuing to deploy and develop albeit smaller at scale solutions that directly go to end customers that might completely automate work as well as augment work. Certain sectors are moving a little faster, banking, financial security, just because of compliance issues and security issues and just kind of risk adverse issues, they're taking a little longer to kind of put everything to scale. Other clients are moving a little faster from a scale perspective. Speaker 200:22:36We're balancing that off by making sure that we have the right solutions for them. Speaker 500:22:41Got it. That's great. And then I think, Andre, you talked you kind of drill down on growth across some of your verticals. It kind of seems like most everything is at least in the positive column except for maybe telco. So maybe we kind of drill down on what you're seeing kind of real time and volume commitments across verticals. Speaker 500:23:08Do you think it's really just is it really kind of just telco at this point that's the big weight on the growth number? Any comments there would be appreciated. Thank you very much guys. Speaker 400:23:25Sure. So yes, telco, Joe, dropping by 4% year over year is the only vertical that is decreasing in revenue for us. And that's been a continuation of a trend that we've seen. I should point out telco is a bit of a mixed bag. We do have the overall headwind, as I said, is a few North American telcos that are shifting or seeing volume declines or are some of that work is also commoditized work where we've said in the past that we don't want to chase the work on pricing. Speaker 400:24:00The good news here is we're actually seeing a lot of strength in European telco and a lot of strength within the telco vertical in the Catalyst business. That is certainly one of the verticals within Catalyst that is leading to that double digit growth that Chris spoke about. So and then as we look across the other verticals, just tremendous strength in retail, travel and e commerce, banking and financial services remain strong and so forth. Speaker 500:24:31Great guys. Thanks for the color. Nice quarter. Speaker 200:24:35Thank you, Joe. Operator00:24:40Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Rupu Bhattacharya with Bank of America. You may proceed. Speaker 600:24:48Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Anya, I was wondering if you can clarify the guidance a little bit. It seems you're guiding 2Q somewhat below Street, but you've kept the full year revenue and operating income guidance unchanged. The EPS guidance is also unchanged, but now includes $100,000,000 of buybacks. Speaker 600:25:07So does the overall guidance imply a more back half weighted year? And is there something happening below the operating income line that the same EPS range now includes Speaker 400:25:26is based 1st and foremost in what we see in the pipeline, what we're hearing from our clients and what we feel we can deliver through continued efficiency in our delivery, whether that be on the client success side of things, the core operations or within Catalyst. Our initial expectation for EPS for the full year did include some buyback in it. So what we've and as a result, the full year guide, if you go back to the last guidance was based on shares, I think we said it was 65,600,000 fully diluted shares. With the increased buyback activity, which again is an averaging function for the full year, that is down to about 65,300,000 shares. So not that big of an increase. Speaker 400:26:18We have seen offsetting that the benefit of that. We have seen if you go to my prepared remarks, a little bit of an uptick in interest expense, largely from the delays that we've seen in some of the rate cutting that was built into expectation that was built into our earlier guide. So those are the things that are happening there. Again, we're very confident in the profitability guide for the back half of the year, again, with strong revenue growth and the ability to drive more efficiency in our operations as we move forward. And of course, the synergies continuing to come online. Speaker 400:26:56And I should I'm glad I mentioned the synergies. I may have misspoken in my prepared remarks and said our full year, 1st year expectation was $65,000,000 Let me clarify that. It's $75,000,000 which is what we said when we announced the transaction and closed it. Speaker 600:27:13Okay. Thanks for that. And maybe Chris, can I ask you to talk a little bit about the operating environment, specifically in terms of new logo wins, deal sizes and sales cycle and also the new economy client growth? Has the material the operating environment changed materially in the past 90 days? Speaker 200:27:36So let me answer the question in reverse. From a new economy clients, we're seeing them really growing in line with the enterprise clients. We're not seeing any materially difference in what we saw sort of a year or 2 years ago. So, FinTechs are growing kind of in line with what we're seeing and healthcare growing in line with what we're seeing, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. They are still very focused on profitability and optimizing their footprint versus growing for the sake of growth, which has been a consistent theme for probably the last year. Speaker 200:28:07We are seeing with our new combination a lot more larger transformational deals coming into our pipeline, which we're very, very happy about. And these tend to be much more global, a lot more tech integration, a lot more service to combination, some definitely with AI, whether it's generative AI or machine learning depending on what they're trying to accomplish. Those will take longer. What we're happy about is that we are now engaged with them. We're having good meetings with them and those are working through the pipeline. Speaker 200:28:39They always take longer. Our general deals that we're winning from a new logo perspective, no real change in time line. My comment about them though is that they still are coming in and we're generally doing some transformation with them as they come in. And so they tend to come in at a revenue level and don't necessarily grow as much primarily based on the macroeconomic conditions that are out there. We see them increasing when they start to grow at a much more rapid pace than they're growing now internally. Speaker 200:29:10What we're happy about is the quality of logos. We're very happy about how they're consuming tech and services in a combination. We're very happy about where they're starting to deliver from and we're very happy that we're starting to see that synergistic combination of what we called out in the sum of the wins between bringing the 2 organizations together a little sooner than we expected. Speaker 600:29:31Okay. Maybe I'll try and sneak just one more quick one. And in terms of capital return, you've announced the $100,000,000 in buybacks. How should we think about the pace of that, Andre, over the next three quarters? And Chris, I mean, now that you're integrating WebHelp, can you talk about your propensity for further M and A? Speaker 600:29:48I mean, is this something you're considering now or do you want to fully integrate web health first? So just your thoughts on further inorganic growth? Thank you so much. Speaker 200:29:57Yes. So just I'll answer the first question and sorry, I'll answer the last and Andre will answer the capital return question. From an M and A perspective, we're very, very far along in the integration of the 2 businesses, like very, very far along from the integration of the 2 businesses. We definitely want to finish that. We definitely want to make sure that we get our synergies. Speaker 200:30:16Clearly, we'd also like to overachieve our synergies. So that is a big focus on ours. From an M and A perspective, what we really look at is something that if it made sense economically, tuck in, add some capabilities, add a discipline, add some technology that we think that we could get a fairly high return on very quickly that might be of interest. But really the focus is on completing the integration and driving the value out of that for the shareholders first. Speaker 400:30:44And then from a share buyback perspective, Ruplu, again, we certainly feel our shares are significantly undervalued at this point in time. But I think you'll see the pace and the cadence there be relatively spread over the balance of the year. Now that's quite an increase from the pace in Q1, particularly if you think about it on a shares basis based on where we're currently trading. While it's about a 50% increase in dollar amount of share repurchases, the number of shares, if we continue to buy at this kind of share price would be twice the number of shares per quarter that we retired in the Q1. Speaker 600:31:27Thanks for all the details. Appreciate it. Speaker 400:31:30Sure. Operator00:31:32Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Divya Goyal with Scotiabank. You may proceed. Speaker 300:31:43Good afternoon, everyone. So thanks so good quarter and thanks a lot for taking my question here. I wanted to get some color on the scale of automation that, Chris, you talked about. So it's interesting, obviously, and something that we've been hearing about more often nowadays. Could you help us understand from a CX standpoint, how do you see a shift in revenue model going forward with the scale of automation now coming in and with obviously AI playing a bigger role going forward? Speaker 200:32:18Yes. So let me tackle it in 2 dimensions. The first thing is that, what you have to look at is the complexity of the transaction. It doesn't matter how the transaction happens, voice, non voice, that's immaterial. It's really about the complexity of the transaction. Speaker 200:32:33And what we're seeing is that clients are clearly focused on the most cost effective way as they've always been, this is not new, most effective way of automating work. AI is just another tool or generative AI is just another tool to make that happen. What we're seeing and what we want to demonstrate with the example of the large regional airline that we've done is that as we have automated work, we've seen the client be able to be more efficient, be able to maybe grow fast in the marketplace or look at additional work that they've done in house and outsource it to us because we're more effective in dealing with their work. And so we continue to see it as a benefit and continue to want to make sure that we automate it, plus we get stickier with the clients if we're driving the automation within their account base. And so we see it as frankly a strong positive. Speaker 200:33:24With generative AI specifically, look, literally 100 and 100 and 100 of combinations are conversations with clients. Clients primarily are still focused on staff augmentation and delivering a better service with better productivity than complete labor replacement. That will come for sure. We're doing that now in some places like again, regional airline example in a large retailer in Europe that we're doing it, that will definitely remove some work, but they're giving us more work that historically have been outsourced to offset that because we're far more efficient at being able to deliver these solutions. Speaker 300:34:06That's helpful. So along the same lines, like you did talk about your Catalyst business that's growing very, very well. And Catalyst from what I understand is obviously predominantly digital engineering. You did provide the breakdown of what exactly does it comprise. But given the competitive pressure out there, given the lack of discretionary spending and the recent results by some of the larger companies out there, do you see pricing pressure? Speaker 300:34:34Or what are some of the drivers for that growth in the Catalyst business? Speaker 200:34:41Yes. Good question. So I would agree that the sense been out in the marketplace is people are not signing off on multi, multi year transformational deals or re platforming deals, etcetera. And that was a big part of our Catalyst business 2.5 years ago. Now people are looking for much faster return on investment within a fiscal year, within a couple of quarters. Speaker 200:35:03And so that's changed the type of engagement that we've seen, but we also do very, very well at that because we understand the domain knowledge of our clients so well that we can see where there's low hanging fruit to be able to put in our technology. And Catalyst is not only aligned with sort of the platforms that are out there, but also we can build it bespoke. We also are very good at sort of journey mapping consulting. So we can actually do the whole design build run within that business specific to that client. And because we're servicing that client generally for the vast majority of those clients, we have the domain knowledge to understand where the best benefit is for that client. Speaker 200:35:40And that is really resonating in the marketplace, and certainly has resonated more in the last couple of quarters where we're actually seeing that consumption of services in an integrated fashion, better than what we've seen prior. Speaker 300:35:56That's helpful. Thanks a lot for all the color. Operator00:36:01Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Vincent Colicchio with Barrington Research. You may proceed. Speaker 700:36:19Yes, Chris, curious, are the productivity benefits from some of the new tools you've developed meeting your expectations? And is there any way to quantify the margin benefit for 2024? Speaker 200:36:34Yes. So the vast majority are, I think meeting our expectations. There's a few that we think we can do a lot better with. And some of this requires a lot of changes within our clients' data structures and cleaning our clients' data get the best benefit from it. That's one of the big things that you need to do when you're driving better efficiencies with either machine learning AI or generative AI. Speaker 200:37:00And we see there being a lot more benefits as we roll it out further, both from a margin perspective and really a value to our client perspective. We haven't really quantified it in terms of a margin perspective because we're taking a lot of those savings and reinvesting it in more deployments and more features in the tools. So I hesitate to kind of give you a number, but I'll tell you like it's thousands of people we've been able to Andre, what's the best way of putting it? It's basically thousands of people we haven't needed to hire, while we've been able to grow the business based on the productivity and we just see that increasing. Speaker 700:37:39And second question, in terms of geographies, can you give us some color? Number 1, what geography should lead growth for the balance of 2024? And has there been any are there any geographies where you're feeling different than you were a quarter ago? Speaker 400:37:58So the great news there, Vince, is we're actually growing quite nicely across most of our geographies and seeing strong demand. The one place where that is not the case is North America. And so and we've talked for a while about as there have been more cost pressure on people, certainly we look to automate more, but also they've looked to move and switch shores. So our very, very strong near shore offerings and offshore offerings are helpful in that regard. It does come with a bit of a revenue headwind in North America. Speaker 400:38:34But frankly, from a sustainability and long term profitability perspective, we're very happy to make those moves. Speaker 700:38:41Thanks guys. Nice quarter. Speaker 200:38:44Thank you. Operator00:38:47Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Concentrix delivered a strong Q1 with 47% revenue growth as reported and ~3% on a pro forma constant‐currency basis, alongside record non‐GAAP operating income (+47%) and adjusted EBITDA (+50%). The Catalyst business achieved over 10% year-over-year pro forma constant-currency growth for the third consecutive quarter, fueled by data engineering, advanced analytics, cloud transformation and CX technology services. Over 60 million transactions were automated in Q1—more than 50% of interactions for a leading airline—resulting in headcount reduction, higher revenue and margins, and improved client NPS. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Concentrix Fiscal First Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker's Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, David Stein, Vice President, Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, Josh, and good evening. Welcome to the Concentrix Q1 fiscal 2024 earnings call. This call is the property of Concentrix and may not be recorded or rebroadcast without the written permission of Concentrix. This call contains forward looking statements that address our expected future performance and that by their nature address matters that are uncertain. These uncertainties may cause our actual future results to be materially different than those expressed in our forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:05We do not undertake to update our forward looking statements as a result of new information or future expectations, events or developments. Please refer to today's earnings release and our most recent filings with the SEC for additional information regarding uncertainties that could affect our future financial results. This includes the risk factors provided in our annual report on Form 10 ks and in our other public filings with the SEC. Also during the call, we will discuss non GAAP financial measures, including adjusted free cash flow, non GAAP operating income, non GAAP operating margin, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, non GAAP net income, non GAAP EPS and constant currency revenue growth. A reconciliation of these non GAAP measures is available in the news release and on the company Investor Relations website under Financials. Speaker 100:02:03With me on the call today are Chris Caldwell, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Andre Valentine, our Chief Financial Officer. Chris will provide a summary of our operating performance and growth strategy, and Andre will cover our financial results and business outlook. Then we'll open the call for your questions. Now I'll turn the call over to Chris. Speaker 200:02:24Thank you, David. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for our Q1 2024 earnings call. We had a strong start to the year with solid Q1 financial performance, operational excellence across our business and a strong pipeline. Revenue increased 47% as reported and nearly 3% on a pro form a constant currency basis in the quarter, which was at the high end of our guide. Our growth reflects the differentiated offerings across our key verticals, particularly in retail, travel and e commerce and banking and financial services. Speaker 200:02:57Achieving our target underscores the strength of our business model, our diversified portfolio of clients and capabilities and the effectiveness of our execution. We delivered record 1st quarter non GAAP operating income and adjusted EBITDA, up 47% and 50% respectively. We're excited about the sustainable momentum in our Catalyst business, which posted growth for our 3rd consecutive quarter, resulting in year over year pro form a constant currency growth of over 10%. Catalyst return to double digit growth is a testament to the successful execution of driving integrated high value technology offerings into our client base. As a reminder, our Catalyst business includes our data engineering, advanced analytics, application design and development, platform integration and cloud transformation practices as well as our strategy consulting and CX Enterprise Technology Services team. Speaker 200:03:54Our pipeline is strong with our preferred mix of transformational and technology led deals. Some of this pipeline comes from sales traction and commercial cross selling synergies from the WebHelp combination. A few examples of wins in the quarter include a top European retailer signing a tech led solution that includes our generative AI agent automation technology, analytics and ongoing services to take care of their customers. While a services client from Webhelp, Concentrix was able to introduce technology and transformation to increase the value of the relationship for both parties. We also won a public transportation agency in Asia Pacific that chose us to provide a CCaaS technology platform, automation, analytics and technical teams to support their customer base. Speaker 200:04:43And then finally, a large global consumer products company in Europe awarded us a contract to design, build and run a CCaaS instance in over 40 markets as their managed service provider, including custom software development to improve their customer experience. This example was a services client of both Concentrix and Webhelp that turned to us for an integrated technology solution since we knew their business so well on the global stage. To understand why we are pushing automation so heavily in our business, one example of scale I can share with you is for 1 of our region's largest airlines. We previously handled 90% 95% Speaker 300:05:22of the airline's transactions Speaker 200:05:22through a voice channel with the more than 50% of transactions have been automated. With this implementation of technology, we reduced the number of game changers needed by close to 500, while the remaining game changers process the more complex transactions. With the growth of the client's business, our revenue and gross margin with this client are higher today than before the introduction of automation, while also raising the client's NPS for their customers. That's why in the Q1 of 2024, we automated significant portions of over 60,000,000 transactions for our clients, yet we're still able to grow our revenue. Our technology led approach with clients continues to demonstrate we are successfully integrating automation solutions into client projects, solidifying our position as a leader in this field. Speaker 200:06:22Our investment in AI tools remain key priority and we're increasing our investment to accelerate deployment of the cutting edge solutions. While this investment is impacting margins in the short term, we believe that this increased investment will allow us to demonstrate faster to the market why we see generative AI as a benefit. To be clear, much of this is our own intellectual property we have developed that is now deployed in hundreds of our clients. We have an extensive R and T department that is innovating internally for our own workforce as well as for customers around all forms of automation including generative AI. Earlier this month, we announced the creation of a dedicated technology product organization led by our new Chief Product Officer, Ryan Peterson, underscoring our commitment to and investing in scalable technology. Speaker 200:07:11Examples of the platforms we are driving to scale include our enhanced large language intelligence for enterprises or ELLI platform that uses the power of generative AI to help CX leaders understand customer feedback from millions of transactions more efficiently and effectively. Our marketing engagement platform built on sales force that combined with our custom application helps businesses run marketing campaigns that are globally consistent, but have local and regional intimacy. And finally, our payment integrated analytics platform that automates complicated payment processes detecting and reducing fraud and mistakes. As you can see from these examples, we have robust offerings that drive automation, enhance results for our clients and deepen long term relationships. Regarding the WebHelp integration, we remain on track to achieve the anticipated cost synergies. Speaker 200:08:05Importantly, the combination has come together very quickly in the areas that matter most, our delivery of global solutions for our clients and our go to market motion. We are confident that we will continue to thrive in generating significant value for our clients and shareholders. For the remainder of 2024, we maintain our outlook for sustained revenue growth, profit improvement, strong cash flow generation and responsible use of capital throughout the rest of the year. Given our confidence in our outlook and our future prospects, we are committed to making between March 1, 2024 and the end of our fiscal year, approximately doubling the capital return through share repurchases from the prior year. This will not stop us from rapidly reducing leverage over the balance of 2024 as we committed when we completed the WebHelp transaction. Speaker 200:09:00In closing, I would like to thank our dedicated game changers for their hard work and commitment to excellence and our clients for their trust and business. Now I'll turn the call over to Andre. Speaker 400:09:11Thank you, Chris, and hello, everyone. I'll begin with a look at our financial results and then discuss our business outlook. Our performance in the Q1 was a solid start to the year. Revenue was at the top end of our guidance range and we achieved our profitability range for the quarter. 1st quarter revenue was $2,400,000,000 On a pro form a basis, as if the WebHelp combination was completed at the beginning of 2023, currency revenue growth was approximately 2.8%. Speaker 400:09:43Revenue increases with clients in key verticals such as retail, travel and e commerce and banking and financial services led the way. On a pro form a basis, revenue from retail, travel and e commerce clients grew 11% year over year. Pro form a revenue from banking, financial services and insurance clients grew 4%. Our other clients vertical grew 2% and revenue from technology and consumer electronics clients grew by 1% on a pro form a basis. Revenue from communications and media clients decreased by 4% on a pro form a basis, primarily due to lower volumes from a few North American communications clients continuing to trend from previous quarters. Speaker 400:10:27Turning to profitability, non GAAP operating income was $319,000,000 in the first quarter, up $102,000,000 compared with the Q1 of 2023. Our non GAAP operating margin was 13.3%, the same as the Q1 last year. Adjusted EBITDA was $384,000,000 up 129,000,000 dollars year over year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 16.0%, up 40 basis points from the Q1 of 2023. Flow through from revenue growth and efficiency gains across our business more than offset investments to ramp new programs and accelerate investment in AI development and deployment. Speaker 400:11:10On a pro form a basis, 1st quarter profitability metrics improved as follows: non GAAP operating income was up $12,000,000 and non GAAP operating margin was up 30 basis points compared with last year. Adjusted EBITDA was up $14,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA margin was up 30 basis points from last year. Non GAAP net income was $176,000,000 in the quarter compared with $136,000,000 in the Q1 of last year. Non GAAP EPS was $2.57 per share compared with $2.59 per share in the Q1 of 2023. GAAP results for the Q1 of 2024 included $116,000,000 in amortization of intangibles, $30,000,000 in expenses related to the Web Health combination and integration, dollars 22,000,000 in share based compensation expense, $3,000,000 in step up depreciation, a $15,000,000 change in acquisition contingent consideration, $7,000,000 in net foreign currency losses and $4,000,000 in imputed interest related to the seller's note issued in connection with the combination. Speaker 400:12:26While our cash generation in the quarter reflects typical seasonality, cash generation in the quarter was further impacted by a one time large client payment delay and bringing forward some integration expenses related to the combination. The client payment was received early in the Q2 and we expect integration expenses to moderate over the course of To provide a better view of cash generation in the quarter, we've added an adjusted free cash flow metric that isolates and eliminates the impact of the Webhelp factoring program that we have continued since the combination. This adjustment aims to provide a clear understanding of cash generation by eliminating the temporary impact of increases and decreases in outstanding factored accounts receivable. During the quarter, the amount of factored accounts receivable decreased by $22,000,000 Turning to the balance sheet. At the end of the Q1, cash and cash equivalents were $235,000,000 and total debt was $5,030,000,000 Net debt was $4,802,000,000 at the end of the first quarter. Speaker 400:13:40Net leverage stood at 3.0x pro form a adjusted EBITDA at quarter end. With the seasonal pattern of strong free cash flow expected in Q2 and expected to continue for the balance of the year, we plan to achieve a meaningful reduction of net debt and net leverage beginning in the Q2 and continuing through the end of 2024. We're committed to our plan to reduce net leverage to close to 2x adjusted EBITDA within 2 years of the close of the WebHelp combination. Our commitment to investment grade principles continues. Accordingly, our capital allocation priorities are to drive organic growth, realize integration synergies related to the combination, repay debt, while continuing a disciplined program of returning capital to our shareholders through our dividend and disciplined share repurchases. Speaker 400:14:32During the Q1, we repurchased approximately 240,000 shares of our stock for approximately $22,000,000 at an average price of approximately $90 per share and we paid $21,000,000 through our quarterly dividend. At quarter end, the remaining authorization on our share repurchase plan was approximately $268,000,000 Our liquidity remains strong at $1,450,000,000 including our over $1,000,000,000 line of credit, which is undrawn. Now I'll turn my attention to the business outlook for the Q2 and the full year 2024. For the Q2, we expect revenue to be in a range of $2,325,000,000 to $2,372,000,000 based on current exchange rates. This reflects approximately 1% to 3% pro form a constant currency growth, net of an approximately 160 basis point exchange rate headwind. Speaker 400:15:31Pro form a revenue, assuming the WebHelp combination occurred at the beginning of 2023, would have been $2,339,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023. In terms of profitability, in the Q2, we expect non GAAP operating income in a range of 320 dollars to $330,000,000 At the midpoint of our guidance, this equates to a non GAAP operating income margin of approximately 13.8%, an increase of 10 basis points over the prior year and 60 basis points on a pro form a basis. On a pro form a basis, non GAAP operating income was $309,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Our non GAAP EPS expectations for the Q2 are a range of $2.55 per share to $2.70 per share. We expect interest expense in the Q2 to be in a range of $78,000,000 to $80,000,000 excluding $4,000,000 of imputed interest on the seller's note. Speaker 400:16:31We expect a non GAAP effective tax rate of approximately 26% to 27%. We expect weighted average diluted share count of approximately 65 500,000 shares. For the Q2, we estimate that about 4% of net income will be attributable to participating securities and about 96% of total net income will be attributable to common shares. Finally, based on our strong start and continued confidence in our strategy and execution, we're affirming our full year 2024 guidance. We expect 2024 revenue to be in a range of $9,510,000,000 to $9,701,000,000 reflecting approximately 1% to 3% pro form a constant currency growth, net of an approximately 70 basis point exchange rate headwind. Speaker 400:17:22We expect non GAAP operating income in a range of 1,390,000,000 to $1,450,000,000 which represents a 14.8% margin at the midpoint, an increase of 90 basis points on a pro form a basis. We continue to expect to realize 1st year synergies of $65,000,000 The current run rate is approximately $65,000,000 on an annualized basis. Our non GAAP EPS expectations for the full year remain in a range of $11.69 per share to $12.50 per share. We expect full year interest expense to be in a range of $300,000,000 to $304,000,000 excluding $60,000,000 of imputed interest on the seller's note, an effective tax rate of approximately 26% to 27% and a weighted average diluted share count of approximately 65,300,000 shares. In terms of cash flow, we expect adjusted free cash flow of $700,000,000 in 2024, inclusive of acquisition and integration costs. Speaker 400:18:30This assumes no change in the amount of factored accounts receivable from the beginning of the year. This will position us to further reduce our net leverage to approximately 2.5x adjusted EBITDA by year end, while committing to the enhanced share repurchase activity Chris mentioned earlier. Our business outlook and cash flow expectations We remain optimistic about the opportunities ahead. Most importantly, we are executing our strategic plan. We are confident in our ability to deliver our full year guidance for revenue, profitability and cash flow. Speaker 400:19:12Thank you for your continued support, and we look forward to updating you on our progress in quarters to come. With that, Josh, please open the line for questions. Operator00:19:23Thank Our first question comes from Joseph Vafi with Canaccord Genuity. You may proceed. Speaker 500:19:50Hey guys. Good afternoon. Good results. Nice to see the reiteration of the guide. A lot to look at here. Speaker 500:20:00Chris, a lot of interesting prepared remarks here this quarter. I thought we kind of drill down a little bit. You hadn't talked about catalysts all that much here. The last couple of quarters looks like perhaps they are seeing a bit of a tailwind from kind of AI related activities across your customer base. So thought maybe we could drill down on that a little bit to begin with and kind of I guess a high level update on kind of the puts and takes of AI across your customers and what they're talking about with the most recent updates on what they're thinking about the technology? Speaker 500:20:45And then I'll have a follow-up. Speaker 200:20:47Yes, for sure, Joe. So a couple of things. Just in terms of Catalyst, we are really happy with it returning back to double digit growth. That's a combination of sort of strength across a number of different areas, not only sort of CCaaS application deployment, our analytics business is doing nicely, strategy and consulting is doing nicely in our development business, which has an AI component is definitely getting some strength from that. That's not only the AI we do. Speaker 200:21:15We also do a lot of automation and AI that's built into solutions that doesn't get classified as catalyst revenue that goes through the rest of our client success business. And so you kind of have to see the whole picture to see all the services that we offer. That being said, we are very happy because we are seeing a lot more demand of clients coming to us looking for integration services and looking for deployment of technology. And we expect to see that continue. Just in terms of AI, we continue to have literally hundreds and hundreds of conversations with clients. Speaker 200:21:51We're continuing to deploy our own tools. We're now up to 100 of our own clients who are using our tools that we've developed internally for productivity gains and for better outcomes and better insights into what we do for our clients. We're also continuing to deploy and develop albeit smaller at scale solutions that directly go to end customers that might completely automate work as well as augment work. Certain sectors are moving a little faster, banking, financial security, just because of compliance issues and security issues and just kind of risk adverse issues, they're taking a little longer to kind of put everything to scale. Other clients are moving a little faster from a scale perspective. Speaker 200:22:36We're balancing that off by making sure that we have the right solutions for them. Speaker 500:22:41Got it. That's great. And then I think, Andre, you talked you kind of drill down on growth across some of your verticals. It kind of seems like most everything is at least in the positive column except for maybe telco. So maybe we kind of drill down on what you're seeing kind of real time and volume commitments across verticals. Speaker 500:23:08Do you think it's really just is it really kind of just telco at this point that's the big weight on the growth number? Any comments there would be appreciated. Thank you very much guys. Speaker 400:23:25Sure. So yes, telco, Joe, dropping by 4% year over year is the only vertical that is decreasing in revenue for us. And that's been a continuation of a trend that we've seen. I should point out telco is a bit of a mixed bag. We do have the overall headwind, as I said, is a few North American telcos that are shifting or seeing volume declines or are some of that work is also commoditized work where we've said in the past that we don't want to chase the work on pricing. Speaker 400:24:00The good news here is we're actually seeing a lot of strength in European telco and a lot of strength within the telco vertical in the Catalyst business. That is certainly one of the verticals within Catalyst that is leading to that double digit growth that Chris spoke about. So and then as we look across the other verticals, just tremendous strength in retail, travel and e commerce, banking and financial services remain strong and so forth. Speaker 500:24:31Great guys. Thanks for the color. Nice quarter. Speaker 200:24:35Thank you, Joe. Operator00:24:40Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Rupu Bhattacharya with Bank of America. You may proceed. Speaker 600:24:48Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Anya, I was wondering if you can clarify the guidance a little bit. It seems you're guiding 2Q somewhat below Street, but you've kept the full year revenue and operating income guidance unchanged. The EPS guidance is also unchanged, but now includes $100,000,000 of buybacks. Speaker 600:25:07So does the overall guidance imply a more back half weighted year? And is there something happening below the operating income line that the same EPS range now includes Speaker 400:25:26is based 1st and foremost in what we see in the pipeline, what we're hearing from our clients and what we feel we can deliver through continued efficiency in our delivery, whether that be on the client success side of things, the core operations or within Catalyst. Our initial expectation for EPS for the full year did include some buyback in it. So what we've and as a result, the full year guide, if you go back to the last guidance was based on shares, I think we said it was 65,600,000 fully diluted shares. With the increased buyback activity, which again is an averaging function for the full year, that is down to about 65,300,000 shares. So not that big of an increase. Speaker 400:26:18We have seen offsetting that the benefit of that. We have seen if you go to my prepared remarks, a little bit of an uptick in interest expense, largely from the delays that we've seen in some of the rate cutting that was built into expectation that was built into our earlier guide. So those are the things that are happening there. Again, we're very confident in the profitability guide for the back half of the year, again, with strong revenue growth and the ability to drive more efficiency in our operations as we move forward. And of course, the synergies continuing to come online. Speaker 400:26:56And I should I'm glad I mentioned the synergies. I may have misspoken in my prepared remarks and said our full year, 1st year expectation was $65,000,000 Let me clarify that. It's $75,000,000 which is what we said when we announced the transaction and closed it. Speaker 600:27:13Okay. Thanks for that. And maybe Chris, can I ask you to talk a little bit about the operating environment, specifically in terms of new logo wins, deal sizes and sales cycle and also the new economy client growth? Has the material the operating environment changed materially in the past 90 days? Speaker 200:27:36So let me answer the question in reverse. From a new economy clients, we're seeing them really growing in line with the enterprise clients. We're not seeing any materially difference in what we saw sort of a year or 2 years ago. So, FinTechs are growing kind of in line with what we're seeing and healthcare growing in line with what we're seeing, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. They are still very focused on profitability and optimizing their footprint versus growing for the sake of growth, which has been a consistent theme for probably the last year. Speaker 200:28:07We are seeing with our new combination a lot more larger transformational deals coming into our pipeline, which we're very, very happy about. And these tend to be much more global, a lot more tech integration, a lot more service to combination, some definitely with AI, whether it's generative AI or machine learning depending on what they're trying to accomplish. Those will take longer. What we're happy about is that we are now engaged with them. We're having good meetings with them and those are working through the pipeline. Speaker 200:28:39They always take longer. Our general deals that we're winning from a new logo perspective, no real change in time line. My comment about them though is that they still are coming in and we're generally doing some transformation with them as they come in. And so they tend to come in at a revenue level and don't necessarily grow as much primarily based on the macroeconomic conditions that are out there. We see them increasing when they start to grow at a much more rapid pace than they're growing now internally. Speaker 200:29:10What we're happy about is the quality of logos. We're very happy about how they're consuming tech and services in a combination. We're very happy about where they're starting to deliver from and we're very happy that we're starting to see that synergistic combination of what we called out in the sum of the wins between bringing the 2 organizations together a little sooner than we expected. Speaker 600:29:31Okay. Maybe I'll try and sneak just one more quick one. And in terms of capital return, you've announced the $100,000,000 in buybacks. How should we think about the pace of that, Andre, over the next three quarters? And Chris, I mean, now that you're integrating WebHelp, can you talk about your propensity for further M and A? Speaker 600:29:48I mean, is this something you're considering now or do you want to fully integrate web health first? So just your thoughts on further inorganic growth? Thank you so much. Speaker 200:29:57Yes. So just I'll answer the first question and sorry, I'll answer the last and Andre will answer the capital return question. From an M and A perspective, we're very, very far along in the integration of the 2 businesses, like very, very far along from the integration of the 2 businesses. We definitely want to finish that. We definitely want to make sure that we get our synergies. Speaker 200:30:16Clearly, we'd also like to overachieve our synergies. So that is a big focus on ours. From an M and A perspective, what we really look at is something that if it made sense economically, tuck in, add some capabilities, add a discipline, add some technology that we think that we could get a fairly high return on very quickly that might be of interest. But really the focus is on completing the integration and driving the value out of that for the shareholders first. Speaker 400:30:44And then from a share buyback perspective, Ruplu, again, we certainly feel our shares are significantly undervalued at this point in time. But I think you'll see the pace and the cadence there be relatively spread over the balance of the year. Now that's quite an increase from the pace in Q1, particularly if you think about it on a shares basis based on where we're currently trading. While it's about a 50% increase in dollar amount of share repurchases, the number of shares, if we continue to buy at this kind of share price would be twice the number of shares per quarter that we retired in the Q1. Speaker 600:31:27Thanks for all the details. Appreciate it. Speaker 400:31:30Sure. Operator00:31:32Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Divya Goyal with Scotiabank. You may proceed. Speaker 300:31:43Good afternoon, everyone. So thanks so good quarter and thanks a lot for taking my question here. I wanted to get some color on the scale of automation that, Chris, you talked about. So it's interesting, obviously, and something that we've been hearing about more often nowadays. Could you help us understand from a CX standpoint, how do you see a shift in revenue model going forward with the scale of automation now coming in and with obviously AI playing a bigger role going forward? Speaker 200:32:18Yes. So let me tackle it in 2 dimensions. The first thing is that, what you have to look at is the complexity of the transaction. It doesn't matter how the transaction happens, voice, non voice, that's immaterial. It's really about the complexity of the transaction. Speaker 200:32:33And what we're seeing is that clients are clearly focused on the most cost effective way as they've always been, this is not new, most effective way of automating work. AI is just another tool or generative AI is just another tool to make that happen. What we're seeing and what we want to demonstrate with the example of the large regional airline that we've done is that as we have automated work, we've seen the client be able to be more efficient, be able to maybe grow fast in the marketplace or look at additional work that they've done in house and outsource it to us because we're more effective in dealing with their work. And so we continue to see it as a benefit and continue to want to make sure that we automate it, plus we get stickier with the clients if we're driving the automation within their account base. And so we see it as frankly a strong positive. Speaker 200:33:24With generative AI specifically, look, literally 100 and 100 and 100 of combinations are conversations with clients. Clients primarily are still focused on staff augmentation and delivering a better service with better productivity than complete labor replacement. That will come for sure. We're doing that now in some places like again, regional airline example in a large retailer in Europe that we're doing it, that will definitely remove some work, but they're giving us more work that historically have been outsourced to offset that because we're far more efficient at being able to deliver these solutions. Speaker 300:34:06That's helpful. So along the same lines, like you did talk about your Catalyst business that's growing very, very well. And Catalyst from what I understand is obviously predominantly digital engineering. You did provide the breakdown of what exactly does it comprise. But given the competitive pressure out there, given the lack of discretionary spending and the recent results by some of the larger companies out there, do you see pricing pressure? Speaker 300:34:34Or what are some of the drivers for that growth in the Catalyst business? Speaker 200:34:41Yes. Good question. So I would agree that the sense been out in the marketplace is people are not signing off on multi, multi year transformational deals or re platforming deals, etcetera. And that was a big part of our Catalyst business 2.5 years ago. Now people are looking for much faster return on investment within a fiscal year, within a couple of quarters. Speaker 200:35:03And so that's changed the type of engagement that we've seen, but we also do very, very well at that because we understand the domain knowledge of our clients so well that we can see where there's low hanging fruit to be able to put in our technology. And Catalyst is not only aligned with sort of the platforms that are out there, but also we can build it bespoke. We also are very good at sort of journey mapping consulting. So we can actually do the whole design build run within that business specific to that client. And because we're servicing that client generally for the vast majority of those clients, we have the domain knowledge to understand where the best benefit is for that client. Speaker 200:35:40And that is really resonating in the marketplace, and certainly has resonated more in the last couple of quarters where we're actually seeing that consumption of services in an integrated fashion, better than what we've seen prior. Speaker 300:35:56That's helpful. Thanks a lot for all the color. Operator00:36:01Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Vincent Colicchio with Barrington Research. You may proceed. Speaker 700:36:19Yes, Chris, curious, are the productivity benefits from some of the new tools you've developed meeting your expectations? And is there any way to quantify the margin benefit for 2024? Speaker 200:36:34Yes. So the vast majority are, I think meeting our expectations. There's a few that we think we can do a lot better with. And some of this requires a lot of changes within our clients' data structures and cleaning our clients' data get the best benefit from it. That's one of the big things that you need to do when you're driving better efficiencies with either machine learning AI or generative AI. Speaker 200:37:00And we see there being a lot more benefits as we roll it out further, both from a margin perspective and really a value to our client perspective. We haven't really quantified it in terms of a margin perspective because we're taking a lot of those savings and reinvesting it in more deployments and more features in the tools. So I hesitate to kind of give you a number, but I'll tell you like it's thousands of people we've been able to Andre, what's the best way of putting it? It's basically thousands of people we haven't needed to hire, while we've been able to grow the business based on the productivity and we just see that increasing. Speaker 700:37:39And second question, in terms of geographies, can you give us some color? Number 1, what geography should lead growth for the balance of 2024? And has there been any are there any geographies where you're feeling different than you were a quarter ago? Speaker 400:37:58So the great news there, Vince, is we're actually growing quite nicely across most of our geographies and seeing strong demand. The one place where that is not the case is North America. And so and we've talked for a while about as there have been more cost pressure on people, certainly we look to automate more, but also they've looked to move and switch shores. So our very, very strong near shore offerings and offshore offerings are helpful in that regard. It does come with a bit of a revenue headwind in North America. Speaker 400:38:34But frankly, from a sustainability and long term profitability perspective, we're very happy to make those moves. Speaker 700:38:41Thanks guys. Nice quarter. Speaker 200:38:44Thank you. Operator00:38:47Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by