NASDAQ:GENK GEN Restaurant Group Q4 2023 Earnings Report $3.92 -0.14 (-3.45%) As of 05/20/2025 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast GEN Restaurant Group EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.01Consensus EPS $0.05Beat/MissMissed by -$0.06One Year Ago EPSN/AGEN Restaurant Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$45.11 millionExpected Revenue$44.20 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$910.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AGEN Restaurant Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date3/6/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, March 6, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsGEN Restaurant Group's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 30, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by GEN Restaurant Group Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 6, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Jen Restaurant Group Inc. 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen only mode and the lines will be opened for your questions following the presentation. Please note that this conference is being recorded today, March 6, 2024. Operator00:00:19And now, I would like to turn the conference over to Tom Grove, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Speaker 100:00:25Thank you, operator, and good afternoon. By now, everyone should have access to our Q4 2023 earnings release. If not, it can be found at www.jenkoreanbbq.com in the Investor Relations section. Before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that our discussions today will include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws, including, but not limited to, statements regarding how growth plans and potential new store openings as well as those types of statements identified in our annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2023, and our subsequent reports filed with the SEC. These forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, and therefore, you should not put undue reliance on them. Speaker 100:01:24These statements represent our views only as of the date of this call and are also subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we currently expect. We refer you to our recent SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10 ks for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial condition. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or revise these forward looking statements in light of new information or future events. During today's call, we will discuss some non GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Speaker 100:02:23Reconciliations of the non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are available in our earnings press release and our SEC filings, which are available in the Investor Relations section of our website. Now, I'd like to turn it over to our Board Chair and Co CEO, David Kim. Speaker 200:02:46Thank you, Tom, and good afternoon, everybody. During 2023, the company achieved record revenues of $181,000,000 representing growth of over 10% versus 2022. This was driven by the opening of 6 new restaurants, including 3 new restaurants in the Q4. As we look ahead to 2024, we expect double digit revenue growth driven by 8 new restaurant openings over the coming year. Before I get into the details of the quarter, let me remind you of what makes Jen Korean Barbecue truly unique. Speaker 200:03:37We are a full service, sit down, not a buffet, casual dining restaurant concept serving a variety of proteins, including steak, pork, chicken, seafood and salad across both lunch and dinner, all at an affordable, all inclusive price. Unlike other restaurant concepts, every Jen Korean barbecue experience provides our guests with an efficient cook it yourself at each table model. This eliminates the need for cooks at our restaurants, enabling us to keep our prices low and allows us to provide the best value proposition to our guests. Moreover, our smaller kitchen footprint also provides us with additional space for tables, allowing more guests to enjoy our dining experience. With that background, let's talk about the restaurant development. Speaker 200:04:46During the Q4, we opened 3 new restaurants, one in Houston, Texas in October, one in Kapolei, Hawaii in November and one in Arlington, Texas in December. This gives us a total of 6 new restaurants for year 2023. Looking ahead to 2024, we anticipate opening 8 new restaurants. During February of 2024, we opened 2 new restaurants, both 1 in Dallas and one in Seattle. The 6 remaining restaurants will open throughout the year with most expected in the Q4. Speaker 200:05:36In addition to the 8 new restaurants in 2024, we have 10 additional leases in various stages of negotiations that we would expect to be 2025 new restaurants. We are excited and committed to expanding our footprint and growing Gen Korean barbecue. We believe the growth opportunity ahead of us is substantial. We remain pleased with the performance of our 4 restaurants from 2022 and early 2023. As we stated on our last call, the stores continue to collectively generate annualized average unit volume of approximately $5,000,000 and remain on track for an average payback period of approximately 2.2 years. Speaker 200:06:34Within our restaurants, we're currently in a testing phase of new menu items and drinks options that we are in the works of a rollout. Operationally, during the quarter, we completed the integration of the 2 operating companies at 2.1. We also completed the switch from U. S. Foods to Sysco. Speaker 200:06:59While these operational initiatives involved additional costs above what we were expecting in the quarter and impacted our profitability. I'm pleased to say that both of these initiatives are completed. Importantly, we believe we have a solid foundation to create a great guest experience and drive further growth for Jen Korean Barbecue as we add new restaurants throughout the country. In closing, we believe we have an exciting growth pipeline ahead of us. Not only do we expect to open 8 new restaurants, but we are also funding these new restaurants, primarily through the free cash flow, further demonstrating the strength of our business. Speaker 200:07:53Coupled with the attractive new unit economics that are among the best in the industry. We believe we have the necessary foundation to capture the opportunities ahead and enhance long term value for our shareholders. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to our CFO, Tom Kroll, to discuss our results. Speaker 100:08:18Thank you, David. For the year ended December 31, 2023, revenues increased 10.6 percent to $181,000,000 compared to $163,700,000 in 2020 2, driven by new unit openings and a 0.6% increase in same store sales. For the Q4, revenue increased 10.4 percent to $45,100,000 compared to $40,800,000 in the Q4 of 2022, driven primarily by new unit openings. Same store sales decreased by 1.7% in the Q4 of 2023 as compared to the Q4 of 2022. Turning to expenses. Speaker 100:09:08Cost of goods sold as a percentage of company restaurant sales decreased by 20 basis points to 32.6%, primarily due to more favorable commodity pricing and ongoing negotiations with our vendors. Payroll and benefits as a percentage of company restaurant sales increased by 90 basis points to 32.1 percent due to increases in minimum wage rates in certain markets which we operate, primarily California. Short term high labor cost in newly opened restaurants as we train staff and management and upgrading the quality of our restaurant managers. Importantly, we believe we have a solid foundation to continue to create great guest experiences going forward and drive further growth for Jen Korean Barbecue. Occupancy expenses as a percentage of company restaurant sales increased by 89 basis points year over year to 8.4%, primarily due to 20 22 and 2023 new restaurant openings, which include higher rent markets. Speaker 100:10:26Other operating expenses as a percentage of company restaurant sales increased 176 basis points year over year to 11.2 percent due to costs totaling approximately 110 basis points to standardize restaurant operating supplies and services across all restaurants and approximately 40 basis points related to increased utilities, which primarily in California. In summary, adjusted restaurant level EBITDA as a percentage of total revenues was 16% compared to 19.3% in the Q4 of 2022. As I discussed, the major differences are increased payroll and benefits of approximately 90 basis points, increased occupancy of approximately 89 basis points, increased operating expenses of approximately 176 basis points, partially offset by reduced cost of goods of approximately 20 basis points. Please refer to our earnings release for a reconciliation of non GAAP measures. We currently anticipate our 20 20 G and A during the Q4 was approximately $4,400,000 or approximately 9.7 percent of revenue, excluding stock based compensation, in comparison to the guidance we provided last quarter of $3,100,000 to 3,600,000 dollars The increase from our guidance range is due primarily to the addition of new personnel necessary for our increased level of new restaurant development. Speaker 100:12:22In addition, we had non cash stock based compensation of approximately $760,000 during the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $1,600,000 including preopening costs. This compares to 5,000,000 Speaker 300:12:41dollars for the Q4 of 2022. Speaker 100:12:42The decrease versus the Q4 of last year was driven by higher preopening costs as we built additional units, incremental public company costs in the Q4 this year, which we did not have last year and the items I mentioned previously. Without preopening costs, adjusted EBITDA would be approximately 2,900,000 dollars Our net loss was $193,000 or 0 point 0 $1 per diluted share compared to net income and $75,000 in the Q4 of 2022. This was driven by the same factors I previously mentioned. Turning to liquidity. As of December 31, 2023, we had no long term debt except for $5,000,000 in government funded EIDL loans. Speaker 100:13:35And we have a $20,000,000 available in our revolving line of credit. Importantly, we maintain a strong balance sheet with $31,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents and have generated strong cash flow allowing us to self fund $17,000,000 of capital expenditures in 2023. Turning to guidance. For 2024, we would like to provide the following guidance items. Total revenue between $200,000,000 $205,000,000 including 8 new restaurants and general and administrative expense of $18,000,000 to $19,000,000 excluding non cash stock based compensation expense. Speaker 100:14:22This concludes our prepared remarks. We'd like to thank you again for joining us on the call today. And we are now happy to answer any questions that you may have. Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:14:37Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer Our first question comes from the line of George Kelly with ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:15:11Hey, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 100:15:14Hi, Joe. Speaker 300:15:16Hey, Tom. So first question I was just curious if you could give us a little more detail on what that is? Speaker 200:15:31So the new products that we're testing is a plus $20 incremental per guest and for that price they're getting a much higher quality meats. So we're testing it right now. We've because of the quality of these meats, our supply line are not able to meet the demand or our projected demand. So we just started this about 3 weeks ago, but they're rolling out slowly. We don't have enough data, but the initial data that are coming in are very positive. Speaker 300:16:30And just a follow-up on that. Is it something that just going back to your supply line point, is it feasible that if the data continues to come back positively that it's something you could have rolled out across the base by midyear or will it take much longer than that? Speaker 200:16:52No. We think that by the end of March or the 3rd week or the 4th week of March, we should be at 100% rollout. Speaker 300:17:05Okay. Interesting. And I take it you probably don't want to share with the data at this point, maybe it's too early to share the data or are you comfortable giving more detail on just what you've seen? Speaker 200:17:20It's all I can say is very positive, but it's not enough data pull. We need more restaurants. Speaker 300:17:28Okay, understood. And then a couple of other questions for you. In your guidance for fiscal year 2024, you said 4 walls should approach 18% margin. And I'm just curious, it was 16% in the 4th quarter. And I'm confused that's a pretty big step up. Speaker 300:17:48And so I'm just curious what it is that you're doing to drive another 200 basis points because it seems like comp growth should probably be flattish at best. I would think it's still negative in your guidance. So how are you getting to that 4 wall margin improvement? Speaker 200:18:07The margin that we missed this quarter was a lot of one time expense due to the integration of the 2 companies to 1. So that and we have invested a lot more in human capital to not only be ready for the stores we're opening this year, we have a lot on the pipeline, which we said that we can probably open approximately 10 next year, but a lot of that 10 next year is actually happening. We are starting processes in terms of drawings city approvals, which a lot of them will probably start opening in 20 25 1st and second quarter. So we are putting up a lot of infrastructure costs getting ready for that. Speaker 300:19:17Okay, understood. And then last question and then I'll hop back in the queue. Tom, you said $18,000,000 to $19,000,000 of G and A ex SBC. And I'm just curious, can you quantify what your expectation for stock based comp is in 2024? And that's all I had. Speaker 300:19:33Thanks. Speaker 100:19:35Yes. The stock based comp should be around $3,000,000 per year for 2024. Speaker 300:19:44Okay. Thank you. I'll hop back in the queue. Operator00:19:48Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeremy Hamblin with Craig Hallum. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:19:55Thanks for taking the questions. So I wanted to just hone in a bit more on the current trends that you're seeing out there. You're kind of more than 2 thirds of the way through the March quarter. I imagine you probably have had some negative impact from the heavy rains in your biggest geography. But wanted to see if you could give us an update on where same store sales are trending. Speaker 400:20:28And then as a kind of a follow-up on that, I know it's kind of a small test case, but whether or not in the markets where you have added the premium menu items, whether or not those stores in the recent weeks have seen comp trends turn positive? Speaker 200:20:52So the California stores make up approximately 50% of our total sales. Yes, we have been impacted by the weather, but that is just every year we're going to have Mother Nature in some capacity hit us. Yes, January didn't look very good. February was okay and March were starting to improve. And when Speaker 400:21:28you say improve go ahead. Speaker 200:21:31Sorry, Continue the question. Speaker 400:21:34I was just going to say when you say improve, again, I was just trying to hone in on whether or not the test locations, whether or not they're seeing they've seen same store sales turn positive. Because I imagine it sounds like maybe same store sales down mid single digit or something like that here given the tough start in January? Speaker 200:22:04The same store sales is turning positive. So let's say if it was a double digit negative, it's now double digit single digit negative. Any stores that were single digit negative is turning to positive. So it's going the right direction, yes. Speaker 400:22:27Okay, got it. And then, in terms of just I want to come back and make sure I understood the cadence of your unit openings and the expectations around that. So you've opened up a couple of locations here in Q1. You're looking for 8 total for the year. And just wanted to capture, it sounds like the vast majority of the remaining 6 are going to be in Q4. Speaker 400:22:56Do you plan to open 1 or 2, or 1 each in quarters 23? But just wanted to see if you could share some color there? Speaker 200:23:09So this year, we've already opened 2. We're not sure if we can open at the end of March, maybe to be safe, we'll be opening 1 in April. And we probably have the rest of them. We just started construction in 2 of them. So if you put like a 4 to 5 month timeframe, that should finish out on the Q3, maybe one more, we're not sure about that. Speaker 200:23:47And the rest are all in the Citi approval stages. So if we can get some more approved this quarter, maybe the second quarter, we might be able to put some more into Q3, but we're telling The Street we'll put we will achieve them in the Q4. Speaker 400:24:16Understood. You highlighted a little bit around the premium menu options, dollars 20 increase option there. Also, I think you noted in your comments that you're looking at making some changes on your drink mix or your alcohol mix. I was hoping that you might be able to share a little bit more color on that initiative. Speaker 200:24:48We've rolled out a new initiative. It's a mixed drink with a product called Soju and that's doing very well. New restaurant openings, we have decided to roll all of them out except Boston with liquor licenses because the footprint of the Boston of how small it is and not having a bar and the cost to get a liquor license is around $300,000 to $500,000 We don't can't make those numbers pencil out, but the rest of them going forward as a company, we will have liquor licenses. We've rolled out some liquor licensed restaurants that don't have bars with new products and we're seeing not a lot but small incremental sales increase in the liquor side of the business. Speaker 400:25:54Okay, great. And then just in terms of thinking about your the mix of business. So I think you have menu very limited menu pricing at this point in time, maybe 1%. But wanted to just understand in terms of the composition of what you're seeing in your kind of your check versus traffic and whether or not there's consideration for the existing or the legacy locations to take any menu pricing here in 2024? Speaker 200:26:35We're still very we're concerned that if there is a downturn in the economic situation, We at Jen don't want to be priced out in terms of our guest experience and their perceived value proposition that we give to our guests. Going forward with new restaurants in new locations, they are substantially higher than the 50% of our restaurants that we have in California. So for example, if Seattle, we are opening that we've opened that store with a dinner price at $34.95 compared to 29.95 So we have pricing strength in other markets and we will continue that trend as we are opening majority of our restaurants outside of California. The guest check average by default will go up because we're charging more in other states. Speaker 400:28:06Okay, got it. And then just last one here for me. On California specifically, there are some changes in terms of labor laws really regarding targeted, I think, more chain restaurants. But just wanted to get an understanding as Speaker 500:28:27you looked at Speaker 400:28:30labor performed better than we expected in Q4, that was nice. But in terms of what our expectation should be here as we get into kind of that April date where there's going to be some change in the California labor laws. What should we be expecting in terms of impact to your P and L here throughout the remainder of 2024? Speaker 200:29:03Because we're still very steadfast in not pricing ourselves out because our competitors are very apart from our pricing, meaning they're probably anywhere from 10% to 20% higher than our pricing structure. This April increase in the minimum wage doesn't legally impact us, but the market, the labor market are saying, if I'm getting $20 from fast food restaurant, why would I compromise at getting paid the minimum wage of 17, 18 plus. So there is pressure because of the surrounding labor, the labor dollars that are required by the fast food industry, it will impact us. We've thought about perhaps maybe raising prices in very regional store by store basis because a lot of this are different regions. They're not all throughout the same areas. Speaker 200:30:30So we're looking at it, but we still believe in continuously tightening our belts to find more efficient ways to bring our labor costs down. And yes, there's going to be a breaking point at one point, but we still are looking and we're finding small areas to continuously cut. Speaker 400:30:57Great. Thanks for taking my questions and best wishes this year. Speaker 200:31:02Thank you. Operator00:31:05Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ty Brooks with Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:31:12Hey, thanks. Good evening, gentlemen, and congrats on 1st year under the belt here. Well done. Hey, Tom. Wanted to kick off on the real Wanted to kick off Speaker 300:31:24on the real estate side Speaker 500:31:25and it was good to hear that that 'twenty two and early 'twenty three opening class, you're hitting those $5,000,000 AUVs and The payback period is kind of below that 2.5 year hurdle that you had set out and that's even in some higher cost locations. I guess, David, can you talk to the mix of the openings in 2024 as far as totally new markets versus densifying markets where you're getting some scale like the Texas's of the world or backfilling in Florida or Hawaii? And then are you getting to enough scale in those markets where you have multiple units now that the economics and how fast those stores mature is likely to improve going forward? Speaker 200:32:18We are opening new stores in existing markets, especially the ones that are doing well. So let's just take an example like Texas, where we'll be growing a lot of restaurants there. Our margins are great. Our sales are great. So we will fill in all those markets, the markets that we're very comfortable that we like the labor cost structure, we like the sales structure. Speaker 200:32:47So the areas are Arizona, Speaker 300:32:54Texas, Speaker 200:32:56Florida, New York, Hawaii. So we will be filling those in aggressively. And we have staffing that we've gotten ready to take those on comfortably. New areas, we have to be ahead of the curve here. So we are testing and going in where we just signed North Carolina. Speaker 200:33:30We will go into Tennessee. We're in the works of that. Let me see. And Seattle, we just opened. We are going to start construction in Oregon. Speaker 200:33:48So and most likely in 2025 opening, it will start we'll start going into Colorado. Speaker 500:34:01Okay. Speaker 200:34:02Great. So, yes, we are filling in our good markets for sure, meaning we will open those markets and we will start opening the other outskirts and see how that works. But with the improvement of personnel, the investment that we put in to bring in people in construction, in real estate selection has dramatically improved so much that the issues that we faced right after COVID of the hardships that we had in the site selection and the process to push the construction out quicker has improved dramatically. That is why we're getting more comfortable right now in the expansion phase as of today. Speaker 500:35:07That's great to hear. And obviously the talent and resources that you've brought in are a big part of that. But the environment itself when you get to permitting and landlord works and things like that, are those getting better just because of the talent that you've brought on staff? Or is that environment itself loosening up to and making you constructive on maybe shorter lead times to get units open as you get to 25, 26? Speaker 300:35:36I think it's Speaker 200:35:37both, but I really attribute that to the staff, the people that work for Gen. The more you there's a saying, the squeaky wheel gets oiled and gets more attention. We have great professional guys who are they know what they're doing. So that process is getting easier and shorter. Speaker 500:36:04Okay, great. And then the final one on the real estate side. I know that, you've laid out the 8 units for this year and the 10 leases that are under or the 10 sites that are in process for getting locked up for 25. Thoughts about buffers. Are you still feeling the need to build buffers of potential locations given how much more professional that development team is getting for you? Speaker 500:36:30And if you're looking towards 25, is it the are you is the governor to 10 units more how fast you can grow the restaurant level talent, especially when you're going to newer markets? Speaker 200:36:48Perhaps if you can help me define when you mean buffer. I don't quite understand. Can you Speaker 500:36:59Sure. Yes. So where you were targeting let's say you're targeting the 8 units for this year and when permitting, landlord lead time supply chains were really tough, you almost had to have 11, 12 units in the works for a year to be able to deliver the 8, but it sounds like the environment and the team are much tighter. So do you feel like you need to still run kind of a couple of units in process at any given time if one washes out in a given year, you run into a permanent snafu or just how much less friction are you seeing in the overall construction environment where you may not need that anymore? Speaker 200:37:43We have a much bigger buffer because of our ability that we think we have because of the upfront investment we're making on personnel. We're okay having a lot more buffer even if we were efficient in getting that 10 built and we had more, where we are able to take that on as of today. So we might for example, this is just an example. Let's say we said that we can open 10 in 2025, maybe we can end up at 15 because the buffers became a reality, right? So we're comfortable having more buffer because the more efficient we get, those buffers actually can now will turn into new store openings. Speaker 500:38:46Okay, great. That's helpful. Thanks, David. And then one more question. I know distributor switches are never easy on a team and the supply chain pros as you try to accomplish those. Speaker 500:39:00As we're thinking about that approaching 18% restaurant level EBITDA margin, how should we be thinking about food costs with a full year under Sysco and ramping into that how should we be thinking about food costs with both of those realities potentially playing out over the course of this year? Speaker 200:39:30The switching of a major distributor has to do with the systems that they have and we get adjusted and they have to adjust. We are constantly meeting with Cisco at least the senior level personnel to improve on that and it is improving. I actually sit on those meetings to make sure that the late deliveries or the missing product percentage drops. In terms of products, we don't it's streamlined very well. We don't have that issue. Speaker 200:40:16And the food cost is actually stabilizing a lot. Again, I believe on the last quarter call, I said we are really not we're really not concerned about the increase of food cost. It's very much stabilizing. We are at pre COVID level of stabilization. Speaker 500:40:42Okay. And then the premium tier products and the premium pricing, is that beneficial to food cost or is the $20 upcharge basically allowing you to hold food cost in kind of that 32% range? Speaker 200:41:01It's soon to tell, but the initial numbers that are coming in is it's holding. Speaker 500:41:09Great. Okay. Thanks for taking all my questions. I'll jump back in queue. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:41:15Thank you. Speaker 100:41:16Thank you. Operator00:41:18Thank you. And we have reached the end of the question and answer session. I'll now turn the call back over to management for closing remarks. Speaker 100:41:27We'd like to thank everybody for being on the call. We're excited to completing our 1st year and our first filing of our 10 ks. Excited for 2024 and look forward to speaking with everybody soon. Thank you. Thank you very much. Operator00:41:46And this concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Jen Korean Barbecue delivered record 2023 revenues of $181 million, up 10.6% year-over-year, driven by six new restaurant openings and plans for eight more in 2024 plus ten additional sites under lease negotiations for 2025. The company’s cook-it-yourself model eliminates the need for in-restaurant chefs and reduces kitchen footprint, enabling lower all-inclusive pricing and more seating capacity per location. Premium menu tests featuring higher-quality meats at an approximately $20 upcharge have produced positive early results, with a full rollout across all restaurants expected by late March. In Q4, same-store sales declined 1.7% and adjusted restaurant-level EBITDA margin fell to 16% (from 19.3%), impacted by higher labor (up 90 bps), occupancy (up 89 bps) and operating costs (up 176 bps), partially offset by a 20 bps reduction in commodity costs. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Jen Restaurant Group Inc. 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen only mode and the lines will be opened for your questions following the presentation. Please note that this conference is being recorded today, March 6, 2024. Operator00:00:19And now, I would like to turn the conference over to Tom Grove, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Speaker 100:00:25Thank you, operator, and good afternoon. By now, everyone should have access to our Q4 2023 earnings release. If not, it can be found at www.jenkoreanbbq.com in the Investor Relations section. Before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that our discussions today will include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws, including, but not limited to, statements regarding how growth plans and potential new store openings as well as those types of statements identified in our annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2023, and our subsequent reports filed with the SEC. These forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, and therefore, you should not put undue reliance on them. Speaker 100:01:24These statements represent our views only as of the date of this call and are also subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we currently expect. We refer you to our recent SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10 ks for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial condition. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or revise these forward looking statements in light of new information or future events. During today's call, we will discuss some non GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Speaker 100:02:23Reconciliations of the non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are available in our earnings press release and our SEC filings, which are available in the Investor Relations section of our website. Now, I'd like to turn it over to our Board Chair and Co CEO, David Kim. Speaker 200:02:46Thank you, Tom, and good afternoon, everybody. During 2023, the company achieved record revenues of $181,000,000 representing growth of over 10% versus 2022. This was driven by the opening of 6 new restaurants, including 3 new restaurants in the Q4. As we look ahead to 2024, we expect double digit revenue growth driven by 8 new restaurant openings over the coming year. Before I get into the details of the quarter, let me remind you of what makes Jen Korean Barbecue truly unique. Speaker 200:03:37We are a full service, sit down, not a buffet, casual dining restaurant concept serving a variety of proteins, including steak, pork, chicken, seafood and salad across both lunch and dinner, all at an affordable, all inclusive price. Unlike other restaurant concepts, every Jen Korean barbecue experience provides our guests with an efficient cook it yourself at each table model. This eliminates the need for cooks at our restaurants, enabling us to keep our prices low and allows us to provide the best value proposition to our guests. Moreover, our smaller kitchen footprint also provides us with additional space for tables, allowing more guests to enjoy our dining experience. With that background, let's talk about the restaurant development. Speaker 200:04:46During the Q4, we opened 3 new restaurants, one in Houston, Texas in October, one in Kapolei, Hawaii in November and one in Arlington, Texas in December. This gives us a total of 6 new restaurants for year 2023. Looking ahead to 2024, we anticipate opening 8 new restaurants. During February of 2024, we opened 2 new restaurants, both 1 in Dallas and one in Seattle. The 6 remaining restaurants will open throughout the year with most expected in the Q4. Speaker 200:05:36In addition to the 8 new restaurants in 2024, we have 10 additional leases in various stages of negotiations that we would expect to be 2025 new restaurants. We are excited and committed to expanding our footprint and growing Gen Korean barbecue. We believe the growth opportunity ahead of us is substantial. We remain pleased with the performance of our 4 restaurants from 2022 and early 2023. As we stated on our last call, the stores continue to collectively generate annualized average unit volume of approximately $5,000,000 and remain on track for an average payback period of approximately 2.2 years. Speaker 200:06:34Within our restaurants, we're currently in a testing phase of new menu items and drinks options that we are in the works of a rollout. Operationally, during the quarter, we completed the integration of the 2 operating companies at 2.1. We also completed the switch from U. S. Foods to Sysco. Speaker 200:06:59While these operational initiatives involved additional costs above what we were expecting in the quarter and impacted our profitability. I'm pleased to say that both of these initiatives are completed. Importantly, we believe we have a solid foundation to create a great guest experience and drive further growth for Jen Korean Barbecue as we add new restaurants throughout the country. In closing, we believe we have an exciting growth pipeline ahead of us. Not only do we expect to open 8 new restaurants, but we are also funding these new restaurants, primarily through the free cash flow, further demonstrating the strength of our business. Speaker 200:07:53Coupled with the attractive new unit economics that are among the best in the industry. We believe we have the necessary foundation to capture the opportunities ahead and enhance long term value for our shareholders. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to our CFO, Tom Kroll, to discuss our results. Speaker 100:08:18Thank you, David. For the year ended December 31, 2023, revenues increased 10.6 percent to $181,000,000 compared to $163,700,000 in 2020 2, driven by new unit openings and a 0.6% increase in same store sales. For the Q4, revenue increased 10.4 percent to $45,100,000 compared to $40,800,000 in the Q4 of 2022, driven primarily by new unit openings. Same store sales decreased by 1.7% in the Q4 of 2023 as compared to the Q4 of 2022. Turning to expenses. Speaker 100:09:08Cost of goods sold as a percentage of company restaurant sales decreased by 20 basis points to 32.6%, primarily due to more favorable commodity pricing and ongoing negotiations with our vendors. Payroll and benefits as a percentage of company restaurant sales increased by 90 basis points to 32.1 percent due to increases in minimum wage rates in certain markets which we operate, primarily California. Short term high labor cost in newly opened restaurants as we train staff and management and upgrading the quality of our restaurant managers. Importantly, we believe we have a solid foundation to continue to create great guest experiences going forward and drive further growth for Jen Korean Barbecue. Occupancy expenses as a percentage of company restaurant sales increased by 89 basis points year over year to 8.4%, primarily due to 20 22 and 2023 new restaurant openings, which include higher rent markets. Speaker 100:10:26Other operating expenses as a percentage of company restaurant sales increased 176 basis points year over year to 11.2 percent due to costs totaling approximately 110 basis points to standardize restaurant operating supplies and services across all restaurants and approximately 40 basis points related to increased utilities, which primarily in California. In summary, adjusted restaurant level EBITDA as a percentage of total revenues was 16% compared to 19.3% in the Q4 of 2022. As I discussed, the major differences are increased payroll and benefits of approximately 90 basis points, increased occupancy of approximately 89 basis points, increased operating expenses of approximately 176 basis points, partially offset by reduced cost of goods of approximately 20 basis points. Please refer to our earnings release for a reconciliation of non GAAP measures. We currently anticipate our 20 20 G and A during the Q4 was approximately $4,400,000 or approximately 9.7 percent of revenue, excluding stock based compensation, in comparison to the guidance we provided last quarter of $3,100,000 to 3,600,000 dollars The increase from our guidance range is due primarily to the addition of new personnel necessary for our increased level of new restaurant development. Speaker 100:12:22In addition, we had non cash stock based compensation of approximately $760,000 during the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $1,600,000 including preopening costs. This compares to 5,000,000 Speaker 300:12:41dollars for the Q4 of 2022. Speaker 100:12:42The decrease versus the Q4 of last year was driven by higher preopening costs as we built additional units, incremental public company costs in the Q4 this year, which we did not have last year and the items I mentioned previously. Without preopening costs, adjusted EBITDA would be approximately 2,900,000 dollars Our net loss was $193,000 or 0 point 0 $1 per diluted share compared to net income and $75,000 in the Q4 of 2022. This was driven by the same factors I previously mentioned. Turning to liquidity. As of December 31, 2023, we had no long term debt except for $5,000,000 in government funded EIDL loans. Speaker 100:13:35And we have a $20,000,000 available in our revolving line of credit. Importantly, we maintain a strong balance sheet with $31,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents and have generated strong cash flow allowing us to self fund $17,000,000 of capital expenditures in 2023. Turning to guidance. For 2024, we would like to provide the following guidance items. Total revenue between $200,000,000 $205,000,000 including 8 new restaurants and general and administrative expense of $18,000,000 to $19,000,000 excluding non cash stock based compensation expense. Speaker 100:14:22This concludes our prepared remarks. We'd like to thank you again for joining us on the call today. And we are now happy to answer any questions that you may have. Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:14:37Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer Our first question comes from the line of George Kelly with ROTH Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:15:11Hey, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 100:15:14Hi, Joe. Speaker 300:15:16Hey, Tom. So first question I was just curious if you could give us a little more detail on what that is? Speaker 200:15:31So the new products that we're testing is a plus $20 incremental per guest and for that price they're getting a much higher quality meats. So we're testing it right now. We've because of the quality of these meats, our supply line are not able to meet the demand or our projected demand. So we just started this about 3 weeks ago, but they're rolling out slowly. We don't have enough data, but the initial data that are coming in are very positive. Speaker 300:16:30And just a follow-up on that. Is it something that just going back to your supply line point, is it feasible that if the data continues to come back positively that it's something you could have rolled out across the base by midyear or will it take much longer than that? Speaker 200:16:52No. We think that by the end of March or the 3rd week or the 4th week of March, we should be at 100% rollout. Speaker 300:17:05Okay. Interesting. And I take it you probably don't want to share with the data at this point, maybe it's too early to share the data or are you comfortable giving more detail on just what you've seen? Speaker 200:17:20It's all I can say is very positive, but it's not enough data pull. We need more restaurants. Speaker 300:17:28Okay, understood. And then a couple of other questions for you. In your guidance for fiscal year 2024, you said 4 walls should approach 18% margin. And I'm just curious, it was 16% in the 4th quarter. And I'm confused that's a pretty big step up. Speaker 300:17:48And so I'm just curious what it is that you're doing to drive another 200 basis points because it seems like comp growth should probably be flattish at best. I would think it's still negative in your guidance. So how are you getting to that 4 wall margin improvement? Speaker 200:18:07The margin that we missed this quarter was a lot of one time expense due to the integration of the 2 companies to 1. So that and we have invested a lot more in human capital to not only be ready for the stores we're opening this year, we have a lot on the pipeline, which we said that we can probably open approximately 10 next year, but a lot of that 10 next year is actually happening. We are starting processes in terms of drawings city approvals, which a lot of them will probably start opening in 20 25 1st and second quarter. So we are putting up a lot of infrastructure costs getting ready for that. Speaker 300:19:17Okay, understood. And then last question and then I'll hop back in the queue. Tom, you said $18,000,000 to $19,000,000 of G and A ex SBC. And I'm just curious, can you quantify what your expectation for stock based comp is in 2024? And that's all I had. Speaker 300:19:33Thanks. Speaker 100:19:35Yes. The stock based comp should be around $3,000,000 per year for 2024. Speaker 300:19:44Okay. Thank you. I'll hop back in the queue. Operator00:19:48Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeremy Hamblin with Craig Hallum. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:19:55Thanks for taking the questions. So I wanted to just hone in a bit more on the current trends that you're seeing out there. You're kind of more than 2 thirds of the way through the March quarter. I imagine you probably have had some negative impact from the heavy rains in your biggest geography. But wanted to see if you could give us an update on where same store sales are trending. Speaker 400:20:28And then as a kind of a follow-up on that, I know it's kind of a small test case, but whether or not in the markets where you have added the premium menu items, whether or not those stores in the recent weeks have seen comp trends turn positive? Speaker 200:20:52So the California stores make up approximately 50% of our total sales. Yes, we have been impacted by the weather, but that is just every year we're going to have Mother Nature in some capacity hit us. Yes, January didn't look very good. February was okay and March were starting to improve. And when Speaker 400:21:28you say improve go ahead. Speaker 200:21:31Sorry, Continue the question. Speaker 400:21:34I was just going to say when you say improve, again, I was just trying to hone in on whether or not the test locations, whether or not they're seeing they've seen same store sales turn positive. Because I imagine it sounds like maybe same store sales down mid single digit or something like that here given the tough start in January? Speaker 200:22:04The same store sales is turning positive. So let's say if it was a double digit negative, it's now double digit single digit negative. Any stores that were single digit negative is turning to positive. So it's going the right direction, yes. Speaker 400:22:27Okay, got it. And then, in terms of just I want to come back and make sure I understood the cadence of your unit openings and the expectations around that. So you've opened up a couple of locations here in Q1. You're looking for 8 total for the year. And just wanted to capture, it sounds like the vast majority of the remaining 6 are going to be in Q4. Speaker 400:22:56Do you plan to open 1 or 2, or 1 each in quarters 23? But just wanted to see if you could share some color there? Speaker 200:23:09So this year, we've already opened 2. We're not sure if we can open at the end of March, maybe to be safe, we'll be opening 1 in April. And we probably have the rest of them. We just started construction in 2 of them. So if you put like a 4 to 5 month timeframe, that should finish out on the Q3, maybe one more, we're not sure about that. Speaker 200:23:47And the rest are all in the Citi approval stages. So if we can get some more approved this quarter, maybe the second quarter, we might be able to put some more into Q3, but we're telling The Street we'll put we will achieve them in the Q4. Speaker 400:24:16Understood. You highlighted a little bit around the premium menu options, dollars 20 increase option there. Also, I think you noted in your comments that you're looking at making some changes on your drink mix or your alcohol mix. I was hoping that you might be able to share a little bit more color on that initiative. Speaker 200:24:48We've rolled out a new initiative. It's a mixed drink with a product called Soju and that's doing very well. New restaurant openings, we have decided to roll all of them out except Boston with liquor licenses because the footprint of the Boston of how small it is and not having a bar and the cost to get a liquor license is around $300,000 to $500,000 We don't can't make those numbers pencil out, but the rest of them going forward as a company, we will have liquor licenses. We've rolled out some liquor licensed restaurants that don't have bars with new products and we're seeing not a lot but small incremental sales increase in the liquor side of the business. Speaker 400:25:54Okay, great. And then just in terms of thinking about your the mix of business. So I think you have menu very limited menu pricing at this point in time, maybe 1%. But wanted to just understand in terms of the composition of what you're seeing in your kind of your check versus traffic and whether or not there's consideration for the existing or the legacy locations to take any menu pricing here in 2024? Speaker 200:26:35We're still very we're concerned that if there is a downturn in the economic situation, We at Jen don't want to be priced out in terms of our guest experience and their perceived value proposition that we give to our guests. Going forward with new restaurants in new locations, they are substantially higher than the 50% of our restaurants that we have in California. So for example, if Seattle, we are opening that we've opened that store with a dinner price at $34.95 compared to 29.95 So we have pricing strength in other markets and we will continue that trend as we are opening majority of our restaurants outside of California. The guest check average by default will go up because we're charging more in other states. Speaker 400:28:06Okay, got it. And then just last one here for me. On California specifically, there are some changes in terms of labor laws really regarding targeted, I think, more chain restaurants. But just wanted to get an understanding as Speaker 500:28:27you looked at Speaker 400:28:30labor performed better than we expected in Q4, that was nice. But in terms of what our expectation should be here as we get into kind of that April date where there's going to be some change in the California labor laws. What should we be expecting in terms of impact to your P and L here throughout the remainder of 2024? Speaker 200:29:03Because we're still very steadfast in not pricing ourselves out because our competitors are very apart from our pricing, meaning they're probably anywhere from 10% to 20% higher than our pricing structure. This April increase in the minimum wage doesn't legally impact us, but the market, the labor market are saying, if I'm getting $20 from fast food restaurant, why would I compromise at getting paid the minimum wage of 17, 18 plus. So there is pressure because of the surrounding labor, the labor dollars that are required by the fast food industry, it will impact us. We've thought about perhaps maybe raising prices in very regional store by store basis because a lot of this are different regions. They're not all throughout the same areas. Speaker 200:30:30So we're looking at it, but we still believe in continuously tightening our belts to find more efficient ways to bring our labor costs down. And yes, there's going to be a breaking point at one point, but we still are looking and we're finding small areas to continuously cut. Speaker 400:30:57Great. Thanks for taking my questions and best wishes this year. Speaker 200:31:02Thank you. Operator00:31:05Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ty Brooks with Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:31:12Hey, thanks. Good evening, gentlemen, and congrats on 1st year under the belt here. Well done. Hey, Tom. Wanted to kick off on the real Wanted to kick off Speaker 300:31:24on the real estate side Speaker 500:31:25and it was good to hear that that 'twenty two and early 'twenty three opening class, you're hitting those $5,000,000 AUVs and The payback period is kind of below that 2.5 year hurdle that you had set out and that's even in some higher cost locations. I guess, David, can you talk to the mix of the openings in 2024 as far as totally new markets versus densifying markets where you're getting some scale like the Texas's of the world or backfilling in Florida or Hawaii? And then are you getting to enough scale in those markets where you have multiple units now that the economics and how fast those stores mature is likely to improve going forward? Speaker 200:32:18We are opening new stores in existing markets, especially the ones that are doing well. So let's just take an example like Texas, where we'll be growing a lot of restaurants there. Our margins are great. Our sales are great. So we will fill in all those markets, the markets that we're very comfortable that we like the labor cost structure, we like the sales structure. Speaker 200:32:47So the areas are Arizona, Speaker 300:32:54Texas, Speaker 200:32:56Florida, New York, Hawaii. So we will be filling those in aggressively. And we have staffing that we've gotten ready to take those on comfortably. New areas, we have to be ahead of the curve here. So we are testing and going in where we just signed North Carolina. Speaker 200:33:30We will go into Tennessee. We're in the works of that. Let me see. And Seattle, we just opened. We are going to start construction in Oregon. Speaker 200:33:48So and most likely in 2025 opening, it will start we'll start going into Colorado. Speaker 500:34:01Okay. Speaker 200:34:02Great. So, yes, we are filling in our good markets for sure, meaning we will open those markets and we will start opening the other outskirts and see how that works. But with the improvement of personnel, the investment that we put in to bring in people in construction, in real estate selection has dramatically improved so much that the issues that we faced right after COVID of the hardships that we had in the site selection and the process to push the construction out quicker has improved dramatically. That is why we're getting more comfortable right now in the expansion phase as of today. Speaker 500:35:07That's great to hear. And obviously the talent and resources that you've brought in are a big part of that. But the environment itself when you get to permitting and landlord works and things like that, are those getting better just because of the talent that you've brought on staff? Or is that environment itself loosening up to and making you constructive on maybe shorter lead times to get units open as you get to 25, 26? Speaker 300:35:36I think it's Speaker 200:35:37both, but I really attribute that to the staff, the people that work for Gen. The more you there's a saying, the squeaky wheel gets oiled and gets more attention. We have great professional guys who are they know what they're doing. So that process is getting easier and shorter. Speaker 500:36:04Okay, great. And then the final one on the real estate side. I know that, you've laid out the 8 units for this year and the 10 leases that are under or the 10 sites that are in process for getting locked up for 25. Thoughts about buffers. Are you still feeling the need to build buffers of potential locations given how much more professional that development team is getting for you? Speaker 500:36:30And if you're looking towards 25, is it the are you is the governor to 10 units more how fast you can grow the restaurant level talent, especially when you're going to newer markets? Speaker 200:36:48Perhaps if you can help me define when you mean buffer. I don't quite understand. Can you Speaker 500:36:59Sure. Yes. So where you were targeting let's say you're targeting the 8 units for this year and when permitting, landlord lead time supply chains were really tough, you almost had to have 11, 12 units in the works for a year to be able to deliver the 8, but it sounds like the environment and the team are much tighter. So do you feel like you need to still run kind of a couple of units in process at any given time if one washes out in a given year, you run into a permanent snafu or just how much less friction are you seeing in the overall construction environment where you may not need that anymore? Speaker 200:37:43We have a much bigger buffer because of our ability that we think we have because of the upfront investment we're making on personnel. We're okay having a lot more buffer even if we were efficient in getting that 10 built and we had more, where we are able to take that on as of today. So we might for example, this is just an example. Let's say we said that we can open 10 in 2025, maybe we can end up at 15 because the buffers became a reality, right? So we're comfortable having more buffer because the more efficient we get, those buffers actually can now will turn into new store openings. Speaker 500:38:46Okay, great. That's helpful. Thanks, David. And then one more question. I know distributor switches are never easy on a team and the supply chain pros as you try to accomplish those. Speaker 500:39:00As we're thinking about that approaching 18% restaurant level EBITDA margin, how should we be thinking about food costs with a full year under Sysco and ramping into that how should we be thinking about food costs with both of those realities potentially playing out over the course of this year? Speaker 200:39:30The switching of a major distributor has to do with the systems that they have and we get adjusted and they have to adjust. We are constantly meeting with Cisco at least the senior level personnel to improve on that and it is improving. I actually sit on those meetings to make sure that the late deliveries or the missing product percentage drops. In terms of products, we don't it's streamlined very well. We don't have that issue. Speaker 200:40:16And the food cost is actually stabilizing a lot. Again, I believe on the last quarter call, I said we are really not we're really not concerned about the increase of food cost. It's very much stabilizing. We are at pre COVID level of stabilization. Speaker 500:40:42Okay. And then the premium tier products and the premium pricing, is that beneficial to food cost or is the $20 upcharge basically allowing you to hold food cost in kind of that 32% range? Speaker 200:41:01It's soon to tell, but the initial numbers that are coming in is it's holding. Speaker 500:41:09Great. Okay. Thanks for taking all my questions. I'll jump back in queue. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:41:15Thank you. Speaker 100:41:16Thank you. Operator00:41:18Thank you. And we have reached the end of the question and answer session. I'll now turn the call back over to management for closing remarks. Speaker 100:41:27We'd like to thank everybody for being on the call. We're excited to completing our 1st year and our first filing of our 10 ks. Excited for 2024 and look forward to speaking with everybody soon. Thank you. Thank you very much. Operator00:41:46And this concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by