Delta Air Lines Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • Delta reported record Q1 revenue of $12.6 billion (+6%), pre-tax earnings of $380 million (EPS $0.45, +$0.20) and $1.4 billion in free cash flow.
  • Operational reliability is industry-leading, with mainline cancellations down 85% year-over-year and new records for completion factor in Q4 and Q1.
  • The company improved its leverage to 2.9×, repaid $700 million of debt in Q1 and expects to pay down at least $4 billion this year, maintaining investment-grade ratings with positive outlooks.
  • Delta reaffirmed full-year guidance of $6–$7 EPS, $3–$4 billion free cash flow and a 2.5× leverage target, and forecasts Q2 EPS of $2.20–$2.50 with mid-teens operating margin.
  • Demand momentum remains strong as business travel accelerates in the mid-teens and premium and loyalty revenues grew 10% and 12%, respectively, highlighted by a record $1.7 billion AmEx remuneration.
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Earnings Conference Call
Delta Air Lines Q1 2024
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There are 20 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Delta Lines March Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. My name is Matthew, and I'll be your coordinator. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode until we conduct a question and answer session following the presentation. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. If you have any questions or comments during the presentation, you may press star 1 on your I would now like to turn the conference over to Julie Stewart, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Matthew. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us for our March quarter 2024 earnings call. Joining us from Atlanta today are CEO, Ed Bastian our President, Glenn Hauenstein and our CFO, Dan Genke. Ed will open the call with an overview of Delta's performance and strategy, and Glenn will provide an update on the revenue environment. Dan will discuss costs and our balance sheet.

Speaker 1

After the prepared remarks, we'll take analyst questions. We ask you to please limit yourself to one question and a brief follow-up, so we can get to as many of you as possible. And after the analyst Q and A, we'll move to our media questions. Today's discussion contains forward looking statements that represent our beliefs or expectations about future events. All forward looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ materially from the forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Some of the factors that may cause such differences are described in Delta's filings. We'll also discuss non GAAP financial measures and all results exclude special items unless otherwise noted. You can find a reconciliation of our non GAAP measures on the Investor Relations page at ir.delta.com. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Ed.

Speaker 2

Well, thank you, Julie, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. Earlier this morning, we reported our March quarter results, posting pre tax earnings of $380,000,000 or $0.45 per share, a $0.20 improvement over last year on revenue that was 6% higher and a new record for Q1. Free cash flow was $1,400,000,000 and we delivered a return on invested capital of nearly 14%, putting Delta's returns in the top half of the S and P 500. We are delivering industry leading operational reliability and have widened the gap to our competition.

Speaker 2

Last summer, we made forward leaning investments in the operation and since then our teams have delivered operational performance that is among the best in our history with mainline cancellations down 85%, setting new records for completion factor in both the Q4 and the Q1. I'd like to sincerely thank Delta's 100,000 people for your dedication, professionalism and hard work in delivering these outstanding results. In February, we recognized the efforts of our people with $1,400,000,000 in profit sharing, more than the rest of the industry combined and continuing Delta's long standing philosophy to reward industry leading performance with industry leading compensation. Reflecting our people first culture, Forbes ranked Delta the 5th best large employer in America And Delta was recently named the 2024 Global Airline of the Year by Air Transport World for our outstanding commitment to safety, operational performance and premium customer service. While airline travel and transportation is what we do, it's the experiences on Delta that set us apart as a leading consumer brand and why Delta was recognized as number 11 on Fortune's list of the world's most admired companies.

Speaker 2

Exciting customer facing enhancements are on the near horizon, including the opening of new Delta 1 lounges in JFK, Los Angeles and Boston, the continued introduction of modern and fuel efficient aircraft, new premium cabin service offerings, upgrades to the Fly Delta app and the international expansion of fast free WiFi across our fleet. The rollout of WiFi and DeltaSync continues to be a tremendous success. Since launching last year, customers have logged more than 45,000,000 free streaming quality sessions on board and millions have joined the SkyMiles program through this channel. Recognizing our investment to ensure the future of travel is connected, we took the number 2 spot in the travels category, a Fast Company's list of the most innovative companies, the only airline to be recognized in the ranking. Loyalty to our brand has never been stronger.

Speaker 2

We continue to set new records with our remuneration from American Express, our most important commercial relationship and are well on our way to our long term target of $10,000,000,000 On February 1, we announced enhanced and refreshed benefits for our Delta SkyMiles American Express cards, providing more direct value and the customer response has been very positive. Turning to our outlook, with strong first quarter performance and visibility into the strength of summer travel demand, we remain confident in our full year guidance for earnings of $6 to $7 per share, free cash flow of $3,000,000,000 to $4,000,000,000 and leverage of 2.5 times, the 3 main guideposts that we shared with you in January. For the June quarter, we expect to deliver the highest quarterly revenue in our history of mid teens operating margin and earnings of $2.20 to $2.50 per share. Our forecast for pre tax profit of approximately $2,000,000,000 is on par with 2019 and just shy of last year due to higher fuel prices. Demand continues to be strong and we see a record spring and summer travel season with our 11 highest sales days in our history all occurring this calendar year.

Speaker 2

Spending on services recently surpassed goods for the first time in 5 years and there is further runway to return to their long term trends. Delta's core consumers are in a healthy position and travel remains a top purchase priority. Generational shifts and evolving consumer preferences are driving secular growth in premium experiences. And business travel demand has taken another meaningful step forward this year with growth accelerating into the mid teens over last year. When you put this level of demand strength together with the industry's increased focus on improving financial returns, this may be the most constructive backdrop that I've seen in my airline career.

Speaker 2

Our industry leading performance continues to demonstrate the strength of Delta's differentiated brand and returns focused strategy. And with our disciplined approach to capital investment and focus on free cash flow, Delta is exceptionally well positioned to further strengthen our balance sheet and deliver significant shareholder value. In closing, the momentum in the business continues to build. We are focused on delivering excellent reliability, elevating the customer experience and improving efficiency across the company to support growth in our earnings and cash flow. I am excited for Delta's opportunities ahead and we'll talk more about that and provide new long term financial targets at our Investor Day, which we are scheduling for November 19 20 in New York City.

Speaker 2

Please put that on your calendar. Thank you again. And with that, let me hand it over to Glenn for more details on our commercial performance.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Ed and good morning. I want to start by thanking our employees for providing the best service and reliability in the industry to our customers every single day. 2024 is off to a great start and we're delivering on our commercial priorities to optimize our network, grow high margin revenue streams and invest in our future. Revenue for the March quarter increased 6% year over year to a record $12,600,000,000 on capacity growth of 6.8%. This result is at the high end of our initial guidance with upside driven by industry leading operational performance and strength in close in bookings.

Speaker 3

Since the start of the year, we've seen a sustained acceleration in business travel. Managed corporate travel sales grew 14% over the prior year with technology, consumer services and financial services leading that momentum. We delivered positive unit revenues in 2 largest entities, domestic and transatlantic, reflecting the continued optimization of our network. Total unit revenue growth improved 3 points sequentially to down 0.7%, including nearly a 1 point headwind from cargo and MRO. Domestic revenue grew 5% with record March quarter unit revenues, up 3% over the prior year.

Speaker 3

The more than 7 point improvement from 4Q to 1Q reflects strong demand trends and improving industry backdrop. International revenues grew 12% on a unit revenue decline of 3% as unit revenue growth in the transatlantic was muted by capacity investments from the continued rebuild of our Latin and Pacific franchises. Diverse high margin revenue streams generated 57% of total revenue, differentiating Delta and underpinning industry leading financial performance. Premium revenue was up 10% over prior year and we have runway ahead as we continue adding more premium seats to our aircraft, improving our retailing capabilities and further segmenting our products. Total loyalty revenue grew 12% on continued strength in the American Express co brand portfolio with record quarterly remuneration of $1,700,000,000 Following the refreshed co brand benefits, we saw card applications reach new records as we are seeing the highest premium acquisition mix in our program's history.

Speaker 3

Turning to our outlook, consumer demand is robust and premium trends remain strong. The outlook for corporate travel is positive. 90% of companies in our recent survey intend to maintain or increase travel volumes in 2Q putting us back on track to deliver record corporate revenues in the back half of this year. For the June quarter, we expect revenue growth of 5% to 7% on capacity growth of 6% to 7% with unit revenues flat to down 2 from last year's very strong performance. Similar to the March quarter, 2Q faces a headwind from the normalization of travel credits.

Speaker 3

Domestically, we expect unit revenues to be flattish over prior year with growth focused on restoring our core hubs where departures and seats are not yet fully restored. The final stage of our core hub restoration will be the full return of regional flying. Pilot hiring has stabilized, increasing the capacity we expect to fly over the summer. We expect progressive improvement through 2025, driving higher asset utilization and improving our profitability. In the transatlantic, we are looking forward to another strong summer with record revenues.

Speaker 3

2Q unit revenues are expected to be similar to the last year as we lock record performance and benefit from the healthy demand for our premium cabins and improved corporate trends. In Latin America, profitability remains solid. Unit revenues are expected to be down double digits due to pressure in shortfall leisure markets. These markets are expected to see healthy improvements in the second half of the year as supply and demand comes back into balance. Our flying into Deep South America, we are very pleased with the results.

Speaker 3

We are increasing capacity about 40% with minimal impact to unit revenues as we continue to deepen our ties with our JV partner LATAM. We expect Pacific unit revenues to be in line with the prior year on 30% growth in capacity driven by strong demand for Korea and Japan offsetting lower unit revenues in China. Profitability is expected to set a record as we continue to harvest the benefits of our multi year restructuring. In closing, I'm pleased with how we have started 2024. Delta is continuing to lead on all fronts with industry leading margin and returns highlighting the strength of our trusted brand and differentiated commercial strategy.

Speaker 3

And with that, I'd like to turn it over to Dan to talk about the financials.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you, Glenn, and good morning to everyone. For the March quarter, we delivered pretax income of $380,000,000 an improvement of $163,000,000 over last year. Earnings of $0.45 per share was at the upper end of our guidance as great operational performance and strong demand more than offset higher than expected fuel prices. Operational excellence is central to Delta's brand promise, and I couldn't be prouder of how our teams are delivering record reliability for our customers.

Speaker 4

A strong completion factor drove a one point of higher capacity and non fuel unit cost favorability. Non fuel CASM was 1.5% above last year and ahead of guidance. Fuel prices averaged $2.76 per gallon, dollars 0.16 higher than the midpoint of our guidance range. The refinery provided a $0.05 benefit, generating a profit of $49,000,000 This was down $173,000,000 from last year on more normalized refining margins. Fuel efficiency was 1.9% better than last year, benefiting from the continued renewal of our fleet and running a strong operation.

Speaker 4

Operating margin of 5.1% was 0.5 point higher year over year. Our pretax margin improved over a point, benefiting from reduced interest, pension expense and higher earnings from our equity investments. We generated free cash flow of $1,400,000,000 This was after paying $1,400,000,000 in profit sharing to our employees and investing $1,100,000,000 into the business. Debt reduction remains a top priority. Our leverage ratio improved to 2.9x.

Speaker 4

During the quarter, we repaid $700,000,000 of debt, including $400,000,000 of scheduled maturities and $300,000,000 of additional debt initiatives. We expect to repay at least $4,000,000,000 of debt this year and continue to be opportunistic in accelerating debt reduction. We are currently investment grade rated at Moody's and BB plus at both S and P and Fitch. With all agencies now on positive outlook following updates from Fitch and Moody's during the quarter. Moving to the June quarter guidance.

Speaker 4

Combined with our outlook for top line growth, we expect an operating margin of 14% to 15% with earnings of $2.20 to $2.50 per share. Fuel prices are expected to be $2.70 to $2.90 per gallon, including a $0.10 contribution from the refinery. At the midpoint of this range,

Speaker 2

our

Speaker 4

all in fuel price is expected to be over 10% higher than last year. Non fuel unit costs are expected to be approximately 2% higher than last year, consistent with our full year outlook of low single digit. Growth is normalizing, and we've entered a period of optimization with a focus on restoring our most profitable core hubs and delivering efficiency gains across the enterprise. The investments we made in fleet health and reliability in the second half of twenty twenty three are paying off, supporting industry leading operational performance. As we discussed with you in January, these investments are expected to continue through 2024 as we complete an elevated volume of heavy airframe and engine checks, while managing through industry wide supply chain constraints.

Speaker 4

The intensity of hiring and training has moderated. The teams have good momentum in delivering on our efficiency goals for the year. This will help fund the investment in our people, in our operations and the customer experience that support our revenue premium. In closing, we continue to be confident in our full year outlook of earnings of $6 to $7 per share and free cash flow of $3,000,000,000 to 4,000,000,000 dollars Our industry leading operational and financial performance is a result of the hard work and dedication of the Delta people. I'd like to thank each of them for what they do every day.

Speaker 4

With that, turn it back to Julie for Q and A.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Dan. Matthew, can you please remind the analysts how to queue up for questions and go to the first analyst question from Duane Pfennigwer.

Operator

Certainly. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. Your first question is coming from Duane Pfennigwerth from Evercore ISI. Your line is live.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning. Thank you. Just on the improved cost execution, you just talked on it in the script there, Dan, but can you speak to maintenance expense and the outlook relative to your expectations? The tone sounds like you're turning a corner on maintenance. And how do you think about that line into the second half and perhaps into next year?

Speaker 4

Well, maintenance is Duane, thank you. Maintenance is on plan and performing as we expected as we talked to you at the beginning part of the year. Maintenance, we expect it to be up year over year 350,000,000 dollars We expect that for the full year. The Q1 was on plan and the team is executing well. And those investments, as I mentioned, that we made in plate health will continue as we go through this year.

Speaker 4

Those proactive visits along touching the aircraft, you're seeing the impact. Cancellations from a maintenance perspective year over year were down 80%, sequentially they improved 30%. So team is doing a good job. They're on plan and as expected.

Speaker 2

Duane, if I could add on to that, I want to congratulate the tech ops team, John Lauder, his leadership over there in terms of helping to make that turn. We are seeing a renewed set of confidence back in the team. It's been a tough few years on the rebuild, too early to declare victory. We know the supply chain continues to have a tremendous amount of constraint in it, but I'm confident that we're on a good journey, good path here.

Speaker 5

Appreciate those thoughts. And then maybe more of a conceptual one for my follow-up on corporate and the continued recovery in corporate you're pointing to. I assume that's generally close in. And I wonder if you could comment on if you're seeing a decrease in average trip length. So maybe more trips, but fewer days on the road per trip.

Speaker 5

Any commentary on those trends?

Speaker 3

No, I'd just say we're seeing both. We're seeing some shorter and we're seeing some longer where people are blending the leisure trip with the business trip. So and generally, they're purchasing a little bit further out than they had and I think that's related to not having change fees any longer. So we've seen some changes in the booking curve, but really encouraged by what we see in terms of corporate bookings as we look forward through this quarter and as we look forward into the next couple of quarters.

Speaker 5

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Mike Linenberg from Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 6

Your line is live.

Speaker 7

Yes. Hey, good morning, everyone. Glenn, I just I want to get back to you talked about the normalization of travel credits and how that still represents a bit of a headwind. What can you quantify what that impact is on June Q RASM?

Speaker 3

I think we said in a previous that we faced headwinds to a couple of points. And I think we're not going to go into the details of that, but that's generally what we've disclosed in the past. Yes.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. And then just my second question to Ed. Ed, can you just give us an update on the status of the I guess it's an appeal process with the DOT on Aeromexico. How does that play out? Or should say, what is the timeline of that?

Speaker 7

And any milestones we should look forward with respect to that? Thanks.

Speaker 8

Hey, Mike, it's Peter Carter. Thanks for the question. That was a tentative order. And I think as you know, our strong view is the DOT really struck out on that one. They're typically a great partner.

Speaker 8

But this was an example of regulatory overreach, which is why we've challenged it. It's bad for consumers. It's bad for competition. It's bad for the local economies that those flights have served.

Speaker 3

We

Speaker 8

are currently engaged with the administration and discussing, I'll say, less punitive solutions than the tentative order that was proposed. And I would say, we've had 100 of our, I'll say, allies with respect to the connection between Mexico and America weigh in, in support of this joint venture. So we think this is going to take some time before the DOT issues a final order, a number of months, but we're cautiously optimistic that they're going to come up with a better solution.

Speaker 9

Great.

Speaker 7

Thanks for that, Peter. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Scott Group from Wolfe Research. Your line is live.

Speaker 10

Hey, thanks. Good morning. So, Glenn, when I think about the original guide for the year or 3 months ago, I think it was sort of flat RASM for the year. So we're down slightly in Q1, midpoint of guide for Q2 down slightly. So what's the what's your visibility to second half RASM inflection?

Speaker 10

I guess ultimately, at this point, do you see more upside or downside risk to that flat RASM? And maybe just with that, like the travel credit headwind, is that bigger or smaller in second half?

Speaker 3

No, I think it's pretty first on the travel credit headwinds, it's consistent through the year. But what I would say is that we're ahead of our internal plan to get to flattish for the year and the comps get easier as we move through the year. And if you look at the back half of guidance as well as what people have loaded in their schedules, it looks like industry capacity is reaching a peak in 2Q. So I think we see a great setup for the back half of year and we're on plan or ahead of plan for where we sit right now.

Speaker 10

Okay. And then I just want to follow-up just on RASM a little bit. So if you just last year, your absolute RASM in 2nd quarter just meaningfully outperformed seasonality and then you underperformed in Q3, right? If you look this year, you're guiding again like to really outperform like pre pandemic seasonality. I'm wondering, do you think that there's a seasonal shift from Q3 into Q2 relative to what we used to see?

Speaker 10

And is that helping Q2? Does it potentially hurt Q3? I'm just curious your thoughts on that.

Speaker 3

I have thoughts, some very yes, it has changed and it's related to schools coming back in the South in particular earlier and earlier into August. As a matter of fact here, I believe schools in Georgia go back the 1st week of August now. And so that has materially changed, I think, over the years, making the 2nd quarter stronger and making the 3rd quarter a bit weaker. But I think we're as we think about how we plan that now, we're incorporating that into our capacity plans moving forward.

Speaker 6

Okay. All

Speaker 11

right. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Ravi Shanker from Morgan Stanley. Your line is live.

Speaker 6

Thanks, everyone. So it looks like your leverage is getting to be in a pretty good place. When do you think you can start flexing the balance sheet for other use of cash, kind of CapEx cash return kind of over the next 12 months?

Speaker 2

Well, thanks, Ravi. We're not in a position yet to make any comments or any decisions around that. We still have more debt than we're comfortable with and that continues to be the first call on cash to continue to take risk off the table. Interesting, I was looking at some numbers preparing for this call. If you look at our target for the end of this year and you factor in that we actually have eliminated the pension obligation, which we had at the end of 2019, we're actually pretty close to the leverage ratio we were at the end of 2019 entering the pandemic.

Speaker 2

So we have made a lot of progress. That said, we'll be talking a bit about that at our Investor Day in November. And but the first call will be and will be for some time to pay down the debt.

Speaker 6

Got it. That's helpful. And maybe as a follow-up and a little bit of a nuanced detail question here, kind of obviously with the Paris Olympics kind of being a pretty big catalyst for transatlantic travel in the summer kind of, are we thinking of that potentially bringing on some noise towards end of 2Q, early 3Q kind of is that something that you would caution us in terms of modeling cadence versus seasonality?

Speaker 3

Well, generally, the Olympics are not good for airline revenues and this year, I think, is no exception to that. So while we see a very favorable backdrop for Europe in its totality, there are some challenges for Paris as generally business travel ceases to and from the local markets as the Olympics approach. So I wouldn't say that that's going to be a windfall. It's actually going to be a bit of a headwind for us in the numbers we shared with you.

Speaker 2

That said, we are very excited as sponsor of Team USA for the Paris Olympics and we'll get through it.

Speaker 6

Very helpful. Thanks. Thanks guys.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Helane Becker from TD Cowen. Your line is live.

Speaker 12

Thanks very much, operator. So hi, team. I just have two questions. In the Q1, your landing fee seemed a little bit higher than I would normally expect to see for our Q1. Is that maybe you can explain that rather than me suggesting what it could be?

Speaker 12

And then for my follow-up question, one of the issues that American Express cardholders have of which I am 1 is acceptance rate, especially in Europe. And I'm wondering if you're starting to see an improvement in that area as well. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. On landing fees, when you look at it year over year, yes, they're up volume 1, 2 related to the cut in as it relates to our generational redevelopment projects, you're picking up some of that expense. And then I would say the 3rd item, airports across the country in 2022 and 2023 benefited from CARES. And as those have now gone away, they're adjusting their rates and you're seeing come through.

Speaker 12

Okay. That's very helpful.

Speaker 3

And on American Express Global Acceptance Rates, we worked very hard years back with American Express on improving the domestic acceptance rates and right now they are at all time highs in terms of the number of merchants that you can use American Express at domestically and they are also doing that internationally. So particularly places that were strong and we work with them on prioritizing those places that Americans like to go for vacations.

Speaker 12

Okay. Well, that's very helpful. Thanks you guys.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Andrew Todorov from Bank of America. Your line is

Speaker 13

live. Hey, good morning, everyone. So Glenn, I had a question with just with regards to your capacity. How are you thinking about the cadence as we move into the back half of the year? Obviously, with the first half capacity up north of 6%, 3Q schedules are still sort of above your 3% to 5% original guide.

Speaker 13

How should we think about your growth as we move through the back of the year? Because it would imply based on 3Q schedules

Speaker 4

that 4Q would be down.

Speaker 13

I kind of find that hard to believe, but just any thoughts there would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 3

I think we're going to first of all, thanks for our operating teams who have given us such exceptional completion factors that accounted for even higher than we had planned for. So I'd say if those continue, which I imagine they will or hope they will, that we would be at the high of the 3% to 5%. And I think it's a bit early to say, but I think that we will be right at that 5% depending on how the completion factor comes in.

Speaker 13

That's helpful. Thank you. And then, I think in your prepared remarks, you spoke to MRO headwinds in the ancillary revenue line in the quarter. What is driving that? I just would have thought given everyone's elevated maintenance expense, it would have been a little bit more of a tailwind.

Speaker 13

Any thoughts there? Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. I'd say 2 things. 1 is, as it relates to our 3rd party activity, it's just we're always we're constrained by what the industry is constrained by, which is material and ability to generate that output. And as we've talked about, our tech ops team, John and the team are focused on the Delta fleet. So but I would say the constraint continues to be material and turnaround times associated with it.

Speaker 13

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Jamie Baker from JPMorgan. Your line is live.

Speaker 14

Thanks. Good morning, everybody. A couple for Glenn. First on the topic of RASM premiums. Pre COVID, you were running what a 20% domestic premium to the industry and I think you were roughly flat on international.

Speaker 14

You and I spoke on one of the earnings calls as to what that what the path to achieving an international FASM premium might look like. Can we revisit that topic? Where is Delta currently both domestic and international? And where do you see that heading from here in the post COVID world?

Speaker 3

Well, thanks for the question, Jamie. I think right now we believe we are running international RASM premiums that are primarily been driven by higher load factors on the fleet. But as the fleet continues to evolve and we continue to put more premium seats in the mix, we believe that is one of the key drivers for us to continue to accelerate our relative performance to our industry peers. So I think we're on a journey there and I think we are now generating premiums consistently And hopefully, we can accelerate those over the next several years as we execute on our plans to differentiate Delta.

Speaker 14

And as a follow-up, Glenn, on premium, so premium revenue was up 10% in the quarter, main cabin was up 4%. What can you tell us about the constitution of that 4%? For example, what's the trend with basic economy? What percent of main cabin passengers are SkyMiles members compared to the premium cabins, that sort of thing. I'm just trying to understand where the 4% is coming from.

Speaker 14

Are those new customers? Are you taking share from discounters? That sort of thing. Thanks.

Speaker 3

I think in quarter, we ran a record domestic load factor in the Q1. So what I believe drove that was the incremental traffic that we took over historical levels. So pretty excited about doing that in the Q1. As you know, the first quarter is the most challenging in terms of loads and for us to come through that quarter with the premiums that we took, I think really is a testament to the strength of our brand. And of course, as we get through the year, there'll be less and less discounted seats available as you get towards peak.

Speaker 3

But generally, we're most open in 1Q.

Speaker 14

Okay, very helpful. Thank you everyone.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Brandon Oglenski from Barclays. Your line is live.

Speaker 15

Hey, good morning and thanks for taking the question. So Glenn, I guess I wanted to come back to domestic growth this summer because it looks like you're jumping up to 6% or 7% from about 2% in the Q1. And the context around this, I think investors were a little bit concerned that that growth could lead to lower RASMs, but obviously you're guiding to flat. So can you dig a little bit deeper on your domestic network priorities and maybe a little bit more on regional expansion?

Speaker 3

Right. I think there what we've said in the past and I'd like to go back to is we kind of coming out of COVID, we had to allocate the resources that we had available. And those resources went to our once in a lifetime opportunities to take leading positions in places like Boston and Los Angeles at the expense of rebuilding our core hubs and we're still not done building our core hubs. And so our ability now to go back and to put seats back into our core where our cost structure is most advantaged and where our profitability is highest is where we're focused for the rest of this year.

Speaker 4

And seat growth is about a point below

Speaker 8

the growth that they see, yes.

Speaker 15

Okay. Appreciate that. And then, Glenn, on the Latin differentiation, I think you were talking separately about short haul and long haul. Can you unpack that a little bit more for us?

Speaker 3

Well, we are really pleased with our South America performance. As I said in the prepared remarks, our capacity is up in the 30% to 40% range and we're doing that with minimal degradation of our unit revenue. So we're really off to a great start with LATAM and I think we have a really great future working with them to continue to evolve as the leading carrier between the United States and South America in our joint venture. So put that aside and then say the particularly leisure destinations, there was an oversupply in the first quarter. I think in Q1 of 'twenty three, the industry saw historically higher returns.

Speaker 3

And so when they're historically high returns, everybody wants to do more of it. We did considerably more of it. The industry did considerably more of it. And listen, it was quite profitable for us, but at the expense of unit revenues. And so as we move through next year, I'd say there's going to be probably a moderation of capacity as there always is when those things happen, as well as easier comps as we get to next year.

Speaker 3

So I'm looking forward to actually next year's comps in Latin America.

Speaker 15

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Connor Cunningham from Melius Research. Your line is live.

Speaker 9

Hi, everyone. Thank you. Just if we play back the performance in the U. S. Domestic market in 1Q, it was pretty fantastic when you started off saying just expecting to inflect positive in March, then you saw some improvement in quarter, then an outcome of plus 3%.

Speaker 9

You've highlighted corporate momentum and premium, but I think there's a disparity in just your hub performance. Can you just talk about coastal gateways versus core hub rebuild and how things are playing out there just in general? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Well, I think we're very pleased with our coastal gateways. And really they're moving in a pretty tight band right now with more capacity going to our core hubs and our core hubs generally having a higher unit revenue base than our coastal gateways that should have a positive inflection on total revenues. And I think that gets accelerated in the 2nd and third quarters. Again, we had probably a little bit more in Boston than we had planned on because there were some opportunities there for us to move airplanes in. But generally, we're really pleased with where we sit today and how the back half of this year should play out for us.

Speaker 9

Okay. And then it seems like there's a potential for regulatory oversight to potentially pick up here. When you have conversations with the FDA, what are some changes that they're talking to you about just given the operating environment? And maybe what are you asking them in general? It just seems like it could be a wildcard to potential growth, maybe medium to long term.

Speaker 9

So just any thoughts there would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 8

Hey, Connor, this is Peter. So just, I'd say fundamentally with the FAA, we're working very closely with them around staffing models because as you know, there's an air traffic control shortage. And we're also engaged in Washington trying to help solve some of those, I'll say, more structural challenges around infrastructure. You probably have seen that the industry has made a request of the FAA to extend the New York slot waiver another season. And that's what I would call responsible partnership with our regulator in light of the staffing challenges they've had.

Speaker 8

So, great relationship, deep partnership with them.

Speaker 9

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Savi Syth from Raymond James. Your line is live.

Speaker 16

Hey, good morning. Just a follow-up to Jamie's question on the premium revenue. Just kind of curious if you could share how much of that 10% is coming from volume versus yield? And I think you've mentioned continuing to grow the premium offering. So curious what the trend might be?

Speaker 3

Right. I would say right now the premium is probably fifty-fifty split between traffic and yield.

Speaker 16

That's helpful. And then in terms of the volume growth in offering, how should we think about that?

Speaker 3

Well, I think we've said that if you look at the longer term trends that we really haven't been adding coach seats into the domestic arena over the past 10 years. And so all of our growth has been in the premium products and services. And I think on Investor Day, we're going to talk a little bit more about where we see that going, but I think we see a long runway for that in the coming years.

Speaker 6

Yes,

Speaker 4

premium product, Bob, pace main cabin all the way. As you look at our fleet deliveries through 2,030.

Speaker 16

Helpful. And if I might, on another follow-up, just on the domestic capacity growth with building back the hubs, is that then where the capacity comes a lot in regional type markets? Or should I think of it as kind of growth in regional then shift some of those aircraft on to kind of other bigger markets that you can use those aircraft?

Speaker 3

I think a little of both. We've been very short on our regionals. We still have probably at least 50 regionals either not flying or underutilized, probably almost 100 when you include the underutilization. So that's a lot of seats and a lot of departures that we need in our hubs and we're missing a lot of the core feed from the regional feed in the local vicinity. So right now, some of that's being done by mainline and those planes can get gravitate out, but mostly we'll be adding frequencies back in that historically have been there from feeder markets into our core ops.

Speaker 12

Helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from David Vernon from Bernstein. Your line is live.

Speaker 11

Maybe just following up on that point of thought there, Glenn. As you think about the improvements in the regional utilization, is there also some room for improving utilization to prior pre COVID levels on the narrow body fleet as well or is this primarily just a regional issue?

Speaker 3

I would hope so. If we look at our wide bodies, we're now at or above where we were in 2019 in terms of annual utilization. And this is going to be a game of working with our operators to improve asset utilization across the network, whatever they are, planes, airports. And that's the game we're playing, that's the long game. And I think that's a really exciting challenge for us all.

Speaker 11

Okay. And then I guess as you think about the yield management problem sort of through the summer months, you seem to have a lot more premium capacity into the mix. Does that change the way you guys go about sort of the day to day and managing pricing? Are there opportunities in there that you see to continue to kind of work the segmented cabin differently than you may have done in the past? I'm just trying to get a sense for as this new sort of model is being marketed at a higher level of volume and a greater distribution of the number of seats you have on each aircraft, is that changing sort of the upper frontier on what you might be able to get out of yield management?

Speaker 3

Well, I think what we said is that what really pushed us to do this journey several years back was the fact that on the premium products and experiences side, we controlled more of our destiny than we did on the commodity side. And so absolutely that's been our journey is to continue to play the game against ourselves as opposed to playing against the lowest common denominator. And I think we'll have a lot again on our Investor Day to talk about what we see the next evolution, but we see a lot of runway, not to tease it out, but we see a lot of runway in taking this even further and using new tools and using things that we'll be talking about in November that I think will be very exciting for our investor base.

Speaker 11

Okay. And then last one for you is that you mentioned something about sort of improvement in retailing. Could you elaborate a little bit around what you're talking about there?

Speaker 3

Well, I think that that's the Holy Grail is why did we wind up in a commoditized environment was because we couldn't distribute products and services. We weren't the industry was not geared to this and this has been our long journey. And every day I think we get better and better and better at it. Whether or not we are working internally to improve our own internal displays where we're 65% direct to consumer right now or whether we're working with online booking tools to improve their display of products and services and making progress on that front as well. So this has been a very, very long journey and every day we're working on improving it.

Speaker 11

All right. Thanks very much for the time guys.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Sheila Kahyaoglu from Jefferies. Your line is live.

Speaker 16

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for the time. Maybe just a follow-up on Latin America. The large capacity growth there in partnership with LATAM obviously magnifies the unit revenue decline, but you, of course, talked about making these investments profitably. So maybe can you talk about where you are today relative to your expectations in Latin America and how you expect that profitability curve to shape up in the coming quarters years?

Speaker 3

I think we still see opportunity. We've got a lot of the opportunities now are in our baseline and we'll continue to work with LatAm to refine that moving forward. But I don't see think you'll see this kind of dramatic growth in the out years as we'll be more focused on turning that into more of a harvest mode as opposed to an investment mode as we continue to work on bridging the 2 networks together.

Speaker 16

Okay. And then maybe one on cost just to sum it up. Q1 CASM performance was really good to add and you talked about completion factors and just operations helping that. So the Q2 guide assumes a bit more normalized putting you guys at 2% cost growth. So is it just fair to think about that run rate in the context of the year with a low single digit guide?

Speaker 16

And what are the moving pieces as we think about headcount, maintenance costs and any other noise you'd highlight throughout the year?

Speaker 4

Yes. I think the 2% is in line with the low single digit. I think when you think about the variables inside of that, it starts with running a great operation. When you run a great operation, that sets the foundation. You get those frictional costs out and it really allows the operators and you're seeing it in 2 quarters in a row to have the confidence and really lean in and continue to drive not only better improvement in the operation but also get after those efficiencies.

Speaker 4

And as you do that, we said that we're carrying headcount higher than historical for what we ran in 2019, about 10%, and we'll grow into that and that drives the efficiency associated with that. And no change to maintenance. Maintenance is as we expected and but we'll continue to manage the supply chain. It's going to be the one that has the largest constraint still associated with it as we execute for the year.

Speaker 17

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Matthew, we'll now go to our final analyst question before moving to the media.

Operator

Certainly. Your last question is coming from Stephen Trent from Citi. Your line is live.

Speaker 18

Good morning, everybody, and thanks very much for squeezing me in. Just a follow-up question to Sheila's, if I may. When we think about probably across the industry fleets getting older, could you give us a high level sense about how valuable Delta TechOps is going to be for you guys over the next 10 years, for example, and that competitive advantage you have versus your legacy competitors? Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes, we can. I think it is a unique advantage that along with our fleet. Our fleet has actually gotten younger over the last few years. But we've also given the constraints in the industry around the OEMs have leaned in to restore the network into our flex fleets. So flying 8717s, flying the 757s longer than we anticipated.

Speaker 4

And that puts demand on our tech ops team and their ability to ensure that we have those aircraft, that they're reliable, is really allows us to flex and be more nimble. And as we go through this period and it gets more normalized, we're in a period of more normalized growth and more consistency around equipment, it's also going to allow us to go into a period of more natural retirements. We haven't retired any aircraft in 2020 2 and 2023. We'll start that at the back half of this year. And that's really where our team has always shined, the ability to naturally retire, but then recoup that equipment and reuse that used material and run out the fleets and they did it with the MD-eighty eight and 90s.

Speaker 4

They've done it for a decade and they have that history. And that's really what we have in front of us.

Speaker 2

Stephen, if I could add on the back end of Dan's comments, two things. In the Q1, our overall mainline reliability and completion factor was the strongest Q1 in our history. And that's quite a statement given where we've been through and supply chain constraints that still exist. And I attribute a lot of that to the maintenance team, the tech ops team having the product ready every day and responding to the opportunities that we see in front of us. So that's going to continue to be a positive green arrow forward as we move forward these next couple of years as Dan was saying.

Speaker 2

Second thing is the MRO while we've taken I'd say a pause given that we've had to focus our energies on our own fleet as compared to our customers' fleets. Going forward in the next couple of years, that's going to start turning back on again. And that growth rate that we've talked about is still there. It's just waiting for us. And I'm very, very excited as to what you talk about a 5 to 10 year timeline on that.

Speaker 2

That business is I think it's going to be our ability to capture that business is going to be even stronger than we were thinking pre pandemic given what we've all been through. So hats off to the tech ops team, a lot more work to go, but we are absolutely on the right path.

Speaker 18

Thank you very much, Ed and Dan. I appreciate the time.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Steve. That will wrap up the analyst portion of the call. Now turn it over to Tim Mapes to start the media questions.

Speaker 8

Thank you, Julie. Matthew, if you don't mind, as we transition from the analysts to reporters, could you repeat the instructions for one question and a follow-up, please?

Operator

Certainly. At this time, we'll be conducting a Q and A session for media questions. Your first question is coming from Leslie Joseph from CNBC. Your line is live.

Speaker 19

Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. On operations, just wondering if you saw any benefit from the fact that a lot of your hubs this past winter got rain and not blizzards. Seems like if it was 10, 15 degrees cooler, we've been talking about grounding the airline for a little bit at those hubs. And then separately on the mechanical issues that some airlines have been having recently, have you reminded your employees or put out any kind of communication, just to ensure that, they're following all protocols and just kind of reemphasize safety at Delta?

Speaker 19

Thanks.

Speaker 2

Hi, Leslie, it's Ed. With respect to weather, we certainly have had a nice run of weather broadly across our system, candidly across our country. And that certainly has helped with respect to the overall operational performance. But what we like to do is neutralize for weather events and we see the performance of the airline weather adjusted within our own system and we're outperforming our prior performance even weather adjusted. So the improved weather just adds nice icing to the cake, but the fundamental of the core is running at a much, much better clip.

Speaker 2

And as communications safety is job 1 at all times every single day. We don't send out special messages around safety. We every day is Safety Day around here.

Speaker 16

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question is coming from Mary Schlangenstein from Bloomberg News.

Speaker 6

Your line is live.

Speaker 17

Thank you. Good morning. I wanted to ask on the request for an addition of the slot waivers through another year. Have you seen any improvement at all in the ATC issues in the New York area? And does the slot waiver extension also include the DC area?

Speaker 8

So, Mary, thanks. It's Peter Carter. It does traditionally include the DC area. That's the way the FAA likes to view it. And we still have a shortage of ATC controllers.

Speaker 8

So it's still an incredibly challenging environment.

Speaker 17

Have you seen any improvement at all?

Speaker 2

Well, we've had

Speaker 8

the waivers in place. So of course, with those waivers, there would be improvement because there's less capacity in that marketplace. But absent the waiver, I think we'd have some as an industry some real challenges in New York. Great.

Speaker 17

Thank you very much.

Speaker 8

Thank you for the question, Mary. Matthew, I believe that wraps up our time, if you want to close out the call.

Operator

Certainly. Thank you. That completes our Q and A session. And everyone, this concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day.

Operator

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