Schlumberger Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • SLB delivered a strong Q1 with revenue up 12.6% year-over-year and mid-teens EBITDA growth, while adjusted EBITDA margin expanded by 51 basis points for the 13th consecutive quarter.
  • International revenue rose 18% year-over-year (over 10% ex-Aker), led by a 29% increase in the Middle East and Asia, which offset a 6% decline in North America due to lower gas prices and capital discipline.
  • Digital integration grew in double digits in Q1 and SLB maintains its ambition to grow digital revenue in the high teens for 2024, with a visible uptick expected in the coming quarters.
  • SLB is expanding its production systems portfolio through the proposed ChampionX merger—targeting $400 million of synergies—and combining its Carbon Capture business with Aker Carbon Capture (80% ownership) to scale CCS solutions.
  • The company reiterated its full-year guidance, expecting Q2 revenue growth of mid-single digits internationally and low single digits in North America, along with adjusted EBITDA margin expansion of 75–100 basis points.
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Earnings Conference Call
Schlumberger Q1 2024
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There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Thank you everyone for standing by. Welcome to the SLB First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to James R.

Operator

McDonald, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Industry Affairs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Leah. Good morning, and welcome to the SLB Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being hosted from Kuala Lumpur following our Board meeting held earlier this week. Joining us on the call are Olivier Lapush, Chief Executive Officer and Stephane Miguet, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind all participants some of the statements we will be making today are forward looking.

Speaker 1

These matters involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our results to differ materially from those projected in these statements. I therefore refer you to our latest 10 ks filing and other SEC filings, which can be found on our website. We are under no obligation and expressly disclaim any obligation to update, alter or otherwise revise any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. Our comments today may also include non GAAP financial measures. Additional details and reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our Q1 press release, which is on our website.

Speaker 1

And finally, SOB and Champion X will fire materials related to the proposed transaction with the U. S. Securities and Exchange Commission, including a registration statement that will contain a proxy statement perspective of the parties. Investors and security holders are urged to read those materials once they are available, which can be obtained from the SEC's website and from the company's websites. SOB, ChampionX, their directors, executive officers and certain members of management and their employees may be considered participants in the solicitation of proxies from their shareholders in connection with the proposed transaction.

Speaker 1

This will be described further in the proxy statement perspective when it is filed. With that, I will turn the call over to Olivier.

Speaker 2

Thank you, James. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on the call today. During my prepared remarks, I will discuss 3 topics. I will begin by sharing an overview of our Q1 results. Then I will provide an update on the ongoing market dynamics and highlight areas where we anticipate opportunities for further growth.

Speaker 2

And finally, I will conclude with our outlook for the full year and the Q2. Stephane will then provide more details on our financial results, and we will open the line for your questions. Let's begin. I am very pleased with our strong start to 2024. Year on year, revenue grew 13% and EBITDA grew in the mid teens, in line with our full year financial ambitions.

Speaker 2

Additionally, we demonstrated the differentiated value we deliver to our customers, the impact of our continued capital discipline and execution efficiency by expanding year on year adjusted EBITDA margins for the 13th consecutive quarter. Internationally, we harness broad based activity growth, with 21 of our 25 international Geo Units increasing revenue year on year. Even when excluding the Aker contribution, our international revenue grew by double digits. These impressive results were led by the Middle East and Asia, which exhibited remarkable growth of 29% compared to the same period a year ago. Specifically in the Middle East and North Africa, year on year growth was supported by continued investments in long cycle developments and capacity expansion projects in both oil and gas across Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

Speaker 2

In Asia, we saw strong activity across the region, led by offshore, notably in China, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines and India. Meanwhile, in North America, activity remained soft due to weaker gas price, sustained capital discipline and the effects of ongoing market consolidations. The slower activity contributed to revenue in the region declining by 6% year on year. Next, I will comment on division's performance. I was very proud to see the power of the core divisions continues to drive our performance this quarter.

Speaker 2

In particular, you may have seen the remarkable growth in Production Systems supported by our 1 Subsea joint venture. And in result of our performance, led by increased stimulation, evaluation and intervention services. Well Construction also delivered resilient growth. I was also pleased to see our core margins visibly expand year on year and I trust that this will continue as we remain focused on efficiency and value creation for our customers. Turning to digital integration.

Speaker 2

I continue to follow our performance very closely. Although we experienced the typical pattern of seasonally slower sales to start the year, digital still grew in the double digits year on year during the Q1 and we expect a visible uptick of digital sales throughout the rest of the year. This will be supported by increased customer adoption and a base load of ongoing projects, as you can see from the quarterly highlights included in our press release this morning. For the full year, we maintain our ambition to grow our digital revenue in the high teens. Overall, I'm very pleased with this strong start to 2024.

Speaker 2

We will remain focused on the quality of our revenue, capital discipline and execution efficiency to generate strong cash flows and shareholder returns throughout the year. I want to thank the entire Acelity team for delivering this Q1 performance. They continue to operate at a benchmark level for the industry. I feel privileged to work with such a dedicated and talented team. Next, let me shift into the ongoing market dynamics and how these are creating opportunities for our business.

Speaker 2

We are in the midst of a unique oil and gas cycle, characterized by strong market fundamentals, growing demand and an even deeper focus on energy security. As described on several occasions, this cycle continued to display breadth, resilience and longevity. This is very much the case in the Asia region, where we are hosting this call today. In this context, there are certain priorities that are increasingly critical to our customers: project lifecycle reduction, particularly in exploration and appraisal to accelerate time to 1st gas or 1st oil. Capital efficiency in the development phase to set new benchmarks in every basin.

Speaker 2

Step change in production and recovery for producing assets and for uncommercial resources and finally, adoption of digital and AI capabilities to transform operations and use of technology to abate emissions. Against this backdrop, we continue to innovate with our customers through the combination of integration, fit for basin technologies and digital, focusing on unlocking value by delivering lower cost and lower carbon barrels. In our core oil and gas business, we are benefiting from these trends with our exposure to the fastest growing and most resilient market. This cycle continues to be defined by broad growth across the international basis and is nowhere this is more evident than in the Middle East and global offshore markets. In the Middle East, countries are investing to increase both oil and gas suppliers through the end of the decade.

Speaker 2

The long cycle nature of the investments provides further confidence in the durability of the cycle, and we look forward to continue working for our customers to deliver on this target. And offshore, many of the FIDs from the past few years have commenced, leading to broad based activity across Asia, Africa, Latin America and Europe. SMB has a strong foothold in each of these offshore regions, benefiting from our deep customer relationships, operational performance and feedforward basins solutions. Through our 1 Subsea joint venture, we offer an unmatched port to process offering to have the full lifecycle of offshore assets and we continue to deliver on a substantial offshore backlog. Now looking at the priorities for producing assets today and tomorrow, we recognize the need to increase our exposure to the production and recovery market, including the more resilient OpEx spend as operators work to offset natural decline, extend performance and maximize the value of their assets.

Speaker 2

Our acquisition of Champagnext will further evolve our portfolio to capture this opportunity with the addition of a leading pollution chemicals business and well established atshore lease portfolio, with significant benefits to our customers in every producing basin in the world. This will be partly visible in the offshore environment, which requires a higher intensity of production chemicals for flow assurance, reinforcing the long cycle value of our offshore strategy. Another notable trend in the market is the enhanced focus on emission reduction and low carbon energy. Our early investments in this space are beginning to deliver promising results, both in the core through our transition technologies and in new energy portfolio, notably in carbon capture and sequestration. CCS is one of the fastest growing and most immediate opportunities to reduce carbon emissions.

Speaker 2

And we are leveraging our domain expertise and deep knowledge of the subsurface to respond to an increased demand in our storage solutions. At the same time, we are also expanding to address opportunities throughout the CCS value chain. As you saw in our announcement a few weeks ago, we have entered into an agreement to combine our Carbon Capture business with Aker Carbon Capture and we own 80% of the combined entity. This is an exciting opportunity to bring together our complementary technology portfolio, leading process design expertise and an established project delivery platform to innovate and deliver carbon capture technology solutions at an industrial scale. Looking across our broad portfolio, it is clear that our 3 engines of growth, each with differentiated technology and exciting project pipelines, are positioning us for continued performance across all time horizons.

Speaker 2

Supported by our strong international portfolio and our unique technology driven approach to North America, we are truly making this investment cycle better for longer. Finally, I will conclude with our outlook for the full year and the Q2. Based on the commentary I have just shared, the ongoing characteristics of the cycle and our strong Q1 results, we remain confident in our full year financial guidance, with strength in international activity offsetting slower growth in North America. In particular, we anticipate activity momentum in international markets to continue, driven by increasing global demand and an even deeper focus on energy security. The relevance of Oil and Gas in Energy Mix continues to support further investments in capacity expansion, particularly in Evinidis and in long cycle projects across global offshore markets, fully aligned with our international revenue ambitions.

Speaker 2

Additionally, we expect to realize further growth in the strengthening production and recovery market as operators work to maximize the efficiency and longevity of their producing assets. Altogether, this continues to present a very strong outlook for our business during 2024 and beyond. Specific to the Q2, we expect sequential revenue growth internationally in the mid single digits and North America in the low single digits. We also expect to expand adjusted EBITDA margins by 75 bps to 100 bps. By division, we expect sequential growth to be led by digital integration, followed by Reservoir Performance, Production Systems and Well Construction, all of which are rebounding from the conclusion of winter seasonality.

Speaker 2

I will now turn the call over to Stephane.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Olivier, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 1st quarter earnings per share, excluding charges and credits, was $0.75 This represents an increase of $0.12 when compared to the Q1 of last year. In addition, during the Q1, we recorded $0.01 of merger and integration charges associated with our 2023 acquisition of the Acura Subsea Business. Overall, our first quarter revenue of 8,700,000,000 dollars increased 12.6% year on year. Excluding the impact of the Atkore Subsea acquisition, revenue increased 6.5% when compared to the same quarter last year.

Speaker 3

International revenue was up 18% year on year and more than 10% when excluding the contribution from Accur, driven in particular by year on year growth of 29% in the Middle East and Asia. North America revenue decreased 6% year on year, primarily due to lower rig count in U. S. Land and the effect of lower gas pricing, which impacted our APS project in Canada. Companywide adjusted EBITDA margin for the Q1 was 23.6%, up 51 basis points year on year.

Speaker 3

In absolute dollars, adjusted EBITDA increased 15% year on year. This is in line with our guidance for adjusted EBITDA to grow in the mid teens for the full year of 2024. Our pretax segment operating margin increased 95 basis points, driven by strong incremental margins internationally. Let me now go through the Q1 results for each division. 1st quarter digital and integration revenue of 9.50 $3,000,000 increased 7% year on year, as digital revenue experienced double digit growth, while APS revenue was flat.

Speaker 3

Margins declined 300 basis points year on year to 26.6 percent due to the effects of higher EPS amortization expense and lower commodity prices on our IPS project in Canada. Margins for the Digital and Integration division are expected to improve in Q2 and throughout the rest of the year, as digital sales will increase sequentially in line with the usual seasonal trends. Reservoir Performance revenue of $1,700,000 increased 15% year on year due to strong stimulation activity, particularly in Middle East and Asia and Offshore. Margins expanded 356 basis points as compared to the Q1 of last year to 19.7%, driven by higher activity and improved pricing. Well Construction revenue of $3,400,000,000 increased 3 year on year as international growth of 9% was largely offset by lower revenue in North America.

Speaker 3

Margins of 20.5 percent were essentially flat year on year. Finally, Production Systems revenue of $2,800,000,000 increased 28% year on year. Excluding the effects of the acquired Aker Subsea Business, Production Systems revenue grew 6%, driven by strong international sales. Margins of 14.2 percent expanded 4.90 basis points year on year, driven by a favorable activity mix, strong execution and pricing improvements. Now turning to our liquidity.

Speaker 3

During the quarter, we generated $327,000,000 of cash flow from operations, Free cash flow of negative $222,000,000 was slightly better than the same period last year. These cash flows reflect the seasonal effects of the payout of our annual employee incentives and lower cash collections following very strong receivable performance in the Q4 of last year. Consistent with our historical trends, free cash flow is expected to be higher in the second quarter and to continue to increase in the 1st and 4th quarters. Capital Investments, inclusive of CapEx and investment in EPS projects and exploration data, were €549,000,000 in the Q1. For the full year, we are still expecting capital investments to be approximately $2,600,000,000 dollars During the quarter, we repurchased 5,400,000 shares for a total purchase price of 2 70,000,000 As we disclosed a couple of weeks ago, we have raised our 2024 target for total returns of capital to shareholders from €2,500,000,000 to 3,000,000,000 This 3,000,000,000 will be evenly split between dividends and share repurchases.

Speaker 3

Lastly, we plan on filing our S4 registration statement relating to the Champion X acquisition in the next couple of weeks. The transaction will require the approval of ChampionX shareholders. During the period after ChampionX mails its proxy for the merger until its shareholder vote, we are required to suspend our share buyback program. While this will not impact our total share repurchases for the year of approximately $1,500,000,000 It will potentially result in our buybacks being more heavily weighted towards the second half of the year. I will now turn the conference call back to Olivier.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Stephane. And ladies and gentlemen, I believe we are opening the floor to your questions.

Operator

And our first question comes from James West with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning, Olivier and Stephane.

Speaker 3

Good morning. Good morning.

Speaker 4

So Olivier, I know you alluded to it earlier and you and I have had conversations about the cycle recently as well. But how are you thinking about in the last 6, 8 weeks or so as we've seen just increased amounts of contracts and rig awards and subsea equipment awards. How are you thinking about where we are in this cycle today and the duration of the cycle? Because it seems to me we're right now it's a Middle East, Asia and offshore story, but it's certainly going to broaden out to more regions as well. So I'm curious to kind of get your big picture high level thoughts.

Speaker 2

No. Thank you, James. So from our perspective, I think 1st and foremost, I think the second attributes that we have described earlier, the breadth, the resilience, the durability or the longevity of the cycle are fully in place and are driven by combination of strong fundamental energy demand, oil and gas demand, if anything, is trending upwards from the revision. Energy security is still on top of the agenda. There is no over place than Asia to realize this on the ground.

Speaker 2

And as such, I think the base of activity is being supported by very critical flow of investment, both, as you said, in capacity expansion, which is already committed, but also I think in short cycle and long cycle offshore, deepwater and shallow. And I think I was here in Asia and it's remarkable to see the breadth, the diversity of the opportunity, the number of countries, offshore, onshore, the new exploration appraisal cycle, the new entrants that are coming in Southeast Asia, they were not before to invest because they are looking for securing gas supply and they are looking to participate to maintain oil production. So I believe that if you combine this with what is happening in North America, which is North America operating within a threshold and not necessarily with significant anticipation of supply growth in that market in short term. This is only accentuating the characteristic of the SAGRU International. And if I can reflect from the last 2 or 3 months of a lot of customer engagements, the sentiment is trending more positively than it was maybe 6 or 12 months ago.

Speaker 2

Hence, customers are engaging to secure capacity on long projects such as deepwater and subsea and they are looking for partnership collaboration to make sure that we help them into securing the best capital efficiency as I highlighted, look for integration to accelerate the project cycle to get faster to first of all, first gas. So if anything, I think I see more stronger pipeline of projects that will help us help this cycle to prolong beyond what we could unsee better a year ago.

Speaker 4

Right. Got it. Okay. Makes a lot of sense. And then maybe just as a follow-up on the digital side and the rollout of the Delphi platform.

Speaker 4

How do you feel about the progress that's happening there, the adoption by customers? I know you've got a good number of customers so far, but still the penetration is probably not nearly where it will be in 3 to 5 years, but it's a powerful tool. And so how do you see adoption trending from here?

Speaker 2

I think the adoption continued to trend favorably. I think you'll continue to see as we deliver quarter after quarter both set of enhancements in digital operation, in cloud adoption for Jossaenc workflow or in data and AI. You have seen the diversity of what we announced this quarter. Do expect the same next quarter and the following quarter, because we believe that customer realizing that they need to unlock efficiency and they need to accelerate the cycle and they need to extract lower carbon solutions for their assets. So this is pulling.

Speaker 2

So we are still and we have renewed our ambition and targets to reach or exceed high teens for digital growth this year. And we started the year, I would say, considering the seasonal low and teens low teens growth year on year, double digits that is was realigned what we could have anticipated and it will continue. So I see quarter after quarter expansion of digital adoption and I see more and more contribution from digital operation beat drilling automation, beat production operation solution and you will see that in the upcoming quarter and the upcoming transaction with Champagnext will only strengthen this production operation offering as it will complement and give us another platform to expand our digital adoption. So I remain very constructive, and I believe that it is a long trend of digital adoption that will continue throughout the rest of the decade.

Speaker 4

Got it. Perfect. Thanks Olivier.

Speaker 2

Thank you, gents.

Operator

Next, we move on to David Anderson with Barclays. Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thank you. Good morning, Olivier and Stephane.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Dave. Good morning.

Speaker 5

So just a question on kind of the timing of the Champion X deal. And so as it relates to where we are in the cycle. So these are all product lines that are targeting the production side of the well life cycle. Primary divers could be OpEx spending, particularly with deepwater development ramping up in the coming years. Conversely, the timing of acquiring a later cycle company might suggest that your position for upstream spending to structure is slow in the coming years.

Speaker 5

So could you just help us understand a little bit of the dynamics as sort of the OpEx cycle and the CapEx cycle? I totally appreciate the duration of it, but I guess I'm sort of thinking about the sort of the cadence of the different cycles. Can you just help us understand kind of how the timing of that works out? And maybe you're just seeing OpEx cycle expanding higher, but the two dynamics I think are causing a little bit of questioning in the market I guess today. Yes.

Speaker 2

No, it's a fair question. And I think 1st and foremost, stepping back in time. I think we have been as we prepare our core strategy a few years back, we identified that pollution recovery, in particular, pollution chemicals, reservoir chemicals, leaf solution will be a domain where we need to invest technology and we need to explore opportunity to accelerate our market participation because we believe 2 things. We believe first that this market will benefit from further innovation, from further integration, from further disruption and hence create through OpEx the efficiency gains into production operation, into recovery. And we believe that the market is discovering, to some extent, has discovered, but has an opportunity to exploit more of this pollution chemicals, more of this optimized full life leaf solution and combined with digital.

Speaker 2

So we believe that all in all, this market is not only an OpEx versus CapEx. This market is responding to increased demand and increased opportunity we see in the market that has been there growing and for which we are willing to respond. And the customer feedback and engagement we've had, realizing the potential of what we can put together from technology, from workflow integration, from automation and from optimization, from domain reservoir knowledge to process equipment will clearly create a new lag into the technology deployment and into the efficiency of producing assets. So and I will not try to oppose OpEx, OpEx. I will just say that precaution recovery is becoming critically.

Speaker 2

It has been for the last few quarters, it's increasingly become part of the priority of our customers. Now we believe as well that this market has further resilience because the market every liquid produced in the world more or less demands an amount of production chemicals to assure its resilience in production. And at the same time, we believe that as the long term, most of the assets will see a higher water cut and some of the assets will see a more complex reservoir fleets coming up to the process facility. There will be an increasing need to adding more sophisticated and more technical pollution chemicals to the flow. So all in all, an opportunity today and a resilient outlook for tomorrow.

Speaker 5

So it's not so much you see upstream CapEx slowing, it's just more that you see OpEx side increasing and more technology increasing.

Speaker 2

That sounds like Exactly, exactly. I see what we see and engagement with customer, we see that in their quest for pollution recovery opportunity, we see that a combination of pollution chemicals, digital capability, including optimizing some production lift solution and other intervention is in dire need for modernizing innovation and automation. And we believe that the addition of this to our portfolio, the significant talent and capability we are getting through the addition of Champagnext will help us fast track this new path of pollution recovery market expansion. That would be a combination of OpEx and CapEx. And OpEx will only supplement and add opportunity for growth.

Speaker 2

And it is not at all relating to the where we are in the cycle for CapEx.

Speaker 5

Understood. And then so just as a follow-up on the Champion X deal, I was surprised to see you announced $400,000,000 in synergies for a company that was just well run with ChampionX. Can you help us break that down a little bit more? Like where do you see the greatest opportunity on the cost side? And also if you could expand the revenue synergy side?

Speaker 5

To be honest, we hear about revenue synergies all the time, but often they don't materialize. So what's different here in Champion X where you have more confidence in the revenue synergy side?

Speaker 3

So Dave, yes, thanks for the question. So again, yes, dollars 400,000,000 of annual synergies, which we think we can achieve in the 1st 3 years. And as we said, 70% to 80% achieved in the 2nd year, which makes the transaction accretive to earnings per share in year 2. So now we have the full integration team in place, refining estimates, going through all the buckets of synergies. So I'm not going to give you definitive numbers, but as a rough split, the most of the synergies, most of the €400,000,000 synergies, let's say about 75% of it is related to costs and 25% related to initial revenue synergies.

Speaker 3

So of the 75% cost synergies, again an approximate 75%, you can say that roughly half of that is on our own SLP spend. We mentioned earlier, we spend a lot of chemicals, for example, for overall operations. And with the manufacturing and internalization of spend we can do with ChampionX, we think we can have great savings there. And the over half or so of the cost synergies would be G and A and overall operating cost savings, if that helps.

Speaker 5

Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you, Dave.

Operator

Next we move on to Arun Jayaram with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Good morning. Olivier, I wanted to get your perspective on the spending picture in Saudi Arabia and the potential impacts from SLB, given the decision to maintain their maximum spare capacity at 12,000,000 barrels, but obviously a shift to higher levels of gas development. And I was just wondering also if you could maybe address just the recent decision to suspend some shallow water drilling in the country?

Speaker 2

Yes. No, thank you, Owen. I think let me first maybe for simplicity and from aligning our views, maybe let me unpack first and give some additional colors on this rig suspension. And I think these are public data, and I think a total of 20 to 22 rigs are being suspended to the bows for consolidation. But this is in the context of this both Safania and Manifar project oil intermodal project expansion program that has been suspended.

Speaker 2

Both of these assets, we're having a combined slightly above 20 jackups operating in these two assets at the end of last year. The anticipation of the additional rig necessary for the expansion, we have added another dozen rigs. When you make the math at the end of this year, both of these assets will host slightly above 10 to dozen rigs or a net 10 rigs less than at the end of last year. So that's first what is happening in offshore. You contrast this with the gas market and a decision that was almost coincidental with the MSC decision to increase the gas capacity towards 2,030 by 60% compared to 2021.

Speaker 2

This is actually resulting in the total rig activity increase and net rig addition between now and the end of the year of a total approximately almost 60 weeks across the entire unconventional and commercial, both workover, rigs, cultivating units and drilling rigs for the on commercial Jaffois and for the commercial gas. So this switch from offshore to onshore, this switch from oil to gas is actually the execution of strategy of Saudi Aramco, I believe. And it happened that we have market exposure that is long on land, very long on land and is balanced and actually long on gas. So as a consequence for us, while this is an activity that has changed and a mix that was anticipated 6 months ago, this will not have natural impact on our ambition for growth for Saudi. This will not change our guidance for Middle East sustained growth.

Speaker 2

And this will continue to support our ambition to grow international and hence the full year guidance rate directed this morning.

Speaker 6

Great. That's helpful. And just my follow-up Olivier, could you just characterize the rest of the spending picture in the GCC in the Middle East outside of Saudi?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think that's a very good point actually. It's very broad growth and it's activity uptick in almost all the country, with possible exception of Egypt these days, considering the cash and devaluation situation. But almost every other country is having a very significant growth. And I've been citing a few countries this morning, and I could not stop listing all of them.

Speaker 2

And it includes Qatar that is starting to now remobilize for addition of the West Northfield. Obviously, Kuwait, as we commented earlier, that is coming now very well structured to execute their capacity expansion UAE on both gas and oil Oman, very steady Iraq, as you have seen, we have had some nice contracts also in that region. So we are very comfortable about the breadth, the diversity of the activity growth rig activity growth in the region. And actually, a couple of rigs or more could actually be redirected from the offshore Saudi contract to supplement and to help accelerate some activity in the region, while some others are already being retained to some extent for future activity here in the Southeast Asia. So I believe that the Middle East, as we said earlier, last year broke and had a total market spend that was record high.

Speaker 2

I think this record is just expanding this year and with a very good breadth of oil and gas, onshore and offshore activity despite the slight change of mix in Saudi.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Operator

Next we move on to Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Yes. Thank you for all the strategic comments. I had a couple of more financial questions. The first, just the Q2 commentary. If I

Operator

look at Q1 EPS was $0.75 and

Speaker 8

I think The Street's got it moving to $0.84 in the 2nd quarter. So just would love your perspective on how we should think about the 2Q versus 1Q build as you have pretty good visibility at this point into the second quarter?

Speaker 3

So Neil, as we have mentioned, Q2, we always see the reversal of seasonality, if you want, and very strong margin expansion. So we just guided to 75 to 100 basis points of incremental EBITDA margin in terms of basis points. And the rest below the EBITDA, you can very well assume to go down to EPS, but non operating expenses and just about all the rest is about the same as in the Q1, if that helps.

Speaker 8

That helps and dials in pretty well with the Street. I guess the follow-up is just on EBITDA margins. It did come in a little bit softer than maybe where the Street was on digital and integration and to a smaller extent on well construction. Just love your perspective as we work our way through the year, how we should be thinking about EBITDA margins and your conviction on the recovery there? Thank you.

Speaker 3

So as Olivier mentioned, it has been 13 consecutive quarters that we increased EBITDA margins year on year. So it was the case in the Q1 as well. And it will be the case in each and every single of the remaining quarters of the year. So this year on year growth of EBITDA and EBITDA expansion is with us for the year. Now you mentioned the D and I margins.

Speaker 3

As you know, they are typically the lowest in the Q1 of the year. This is mostly the seasonally lower digital sales. This year, it was made worse by lower APS revenue due to 2 kind of related effects actually. The lower gas pricing in our Palliser Canada assets and higher amortization expense per unit of production. So this resulted in a year on year drop in the total digital and integration margin, but this is entirely due to APS.

Speaker 3

The digital margins are intact. And as the rest of the year unfolds, as Olivier mentioned, digital sales will increase quarter after quarter, And this will be at high incremental margins for digital considering that most of the costs are fixed. So we clearly continue to shoot for overall DNI margins above 30% on a full year basis.

Speaker 8

Thank you so much.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thanks, Eunil.

Operator

Our next question is from Scott Gruber with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Yes. Hello. I want to circle back on the Saudi comments. Good morning, Scott. Good morning.

Speaker 7

I want to circle back on the Saudi comments because a few investors have asked for some clarification. Olivia, did you mention that the rig growth was a net 60, 6 0 even with the losses of 20 jackets?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think that I'm contrasting, I think, some offset, Kees. So there will be increase there was a plan that has not changed for Saudi to accelerate the gas expansion program. What has accelerated and that has improved is the pace of this expansion program, driven by the raise of 50% to 60% target by 2,030. And as a consequence of that, the whole year that was based on previous plans that are now boosted by this accelerated expansion program will result into a total rigs year on year that will from beginning of the year to the end add 60 rigs in total to the gas market, all onshore.

Speaker 2

So that's the reality of the market. Some of it's in unconventional, up to 10 to 15 weeks in unconventional. Some of it in the gas commercial, some of it in intermention and walkover. So that's a total activity that gas is a strong market Saudi, it's becoming a significant market going forward. So that's where we expect activity to continue to grow going forward.

Speaker 2

And we are essentially favorably exposed to this activity set as we have an exposure that goes above we are long on gas, as we explained. And hence, we benefit from technology that we have deployed in Saudi that is fit for the Jaffois project, technology such as cold tubing and the balanced cold tubing drilling solution that is being used on the Gabor Gas and the technology that we use across for commercial gas in either integrated or discrete contract. So that's the benefit we see and that's the total rig that we see going forward.

Speaker 7

Well, thanks. That's encouraging. Thanks for clarifying that. And then turning back to well construction margins, should we be expecting those to come in about flat for the year? I know they'll improve seasonally and are always strong in the second half.

Speaker 7

Should we be thinking about kind of flat year on year? Just thinking about the mix in that business, historically with greater offshore activity and weaker U. S. Onshore activity, I would just expect those margins to be grinding higher. So maybe if you could comment on what's kind of keeping those flat year on year, maybe the mix just isn't that impactful anymore in new sales strategy in the U.

Speaker 7

S, but just some color on the year over year margins and well construction would be great.

Speaker 3

So look, they were flat indeed in Q1 year on year. But for the full year, you should actually see margin expansion in well construction. The headwind we have a bit is the lower activity in North America. So that kind of masks the margin expansion internationally. But as we go through the year, you will see year on year growth in Well Construction.

Speaker 3

You have timing of certain stuff and adjustments on a quarterly basis. But on a year on year basis, you will clearly see margin expansion coming from international.

Speaker 2

And maybe for clarity of the split on the net addition in the gas market in Saudi, the net addition due to the expansion acceleration is about 20 weeks.

Speaker 7

Okay, good. Thanks. And a

Speaker 2

little bit more than half of that in noncommercial and the rest in the commercial. So that's the resulting effect of this acceleration of gas expansion into Saudi. Hence, the shift indeed from offshore to onshore and from oil to gas characterized by this accelerated expansion translating to 20 rigs and the reduction of the net offshore from end of year last year to end of year this year that is above 10 plus the mix changing for Clyde.

Speaker 7

Okay, got it. I appreciate that. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Next, we go to Kurt Hallead with Benchmark. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hey, everybody. Thank you for sliding me in here. Appreciate that. So given the fact that you are currently in Kuala Lumpur and Asia seems to be one of your growth vehicles and something that really hasn't gotten a lot of airtime. Just kind of curious as to what you see is driving that growth?

Speaker 9

And what regions within Asia is standing out to you?

Speaker 2

I think great question. I think indeed we had a reason to come here. The reason why first, the team has delivered and has been delivering a resilient growth and resilient margin expansion over the last 2 years since the rebound from the COVID time. And I think we have been observing, supporting the team, but I think spending 2 weeks in the region, I think, is clearly giving us a little bit more spotlight onto the strength of the region. I think 1st and foremost, I have to say, this region is characterized by its the critical resource they are putting to support security of supply, partially gas, and investment they are doing to, I would say, to support and stabilize oil production and prevent further decline.

Speaker 2

So stabilizing oil production and accelerating gas is certainly the feeling that is common to the entire region. And I think it's further accelerated by energy security and it's translating into a new wave of investment. It was very telling to see that in Indonesia, in Malaysia, in South in Offshore China, in Bangladesh, in India, we are seeing new round of exploration appraisal that has not been seen with new entrants into this market that went up there certainly a few years back. And I think this is creating a new set of opportunity, both offshore primarily and some of them in deepwater assets. And I think that will create further opportunity for Subsea.

Speaker 2

And at the same time, as I said and I stress, there is also a focus inherently on to supporting and preventing pollution decline for oil. And this is visible across all assets, both onshore and offshore. And hence, the intervention recovery technology is being put to add investments. So you combine this wave of new investments for accelerating gas from exploration to development projects with this intervention, recovery focused production on the existing declining assets that exist here in all markets across the region. And you get the recipe for a significant investment and a steady investment in every country from Indonesia to Malaysia to Thailand, China Offshore and Onshore, India, Bangladesh, as I said, a new country.

Speaker 2

And I think this is very interesting and very exciting for the team, and we are responding to this by deploying assets, deploying resource and creating fit technology for the market to help us grow and continue to succeed in this region.

Speaker 9

That's great. That's great color. Appreciate that. So maybe a follow-up here as you kind of referenced significant opportunities to tap into the production spending profile of your customer base and hence the dynamic related to the Champion X acquisition. When you look at the production chemicals piece of the business, there Champion X is a clear leader there.

Speaker 9

And just kind of curious as to what is there lack of better phrases like some secret recipes and production chemicals that you guys are bringing to the table that could potentially enhance margins and substantially boost the revenue growth rate or boost the Champion X position?

Speaker 2

I think there are multiple aspects to this, okay. 1st and foremost, I think we have been operating also in pollution chemicals, albeit at a smaller scale international market. We are actually having quite a portfolio in reservoir chemicals that are helping us extract recovery and optimize our intervention and stimulation program in also in international market. And we believe that combining this will help us open and compare and optimize fit for reservoir solutions, fit for process facility solution. And I think we both are coming from different positional strengths.

Speaker 2

We have a process portfolio, equipment process portfolio, both onshore and onshore. We have reservoir chemical and subsurface domain expertise and freed expertise. And they have obviously freed and understanding of the reservoir of the pollution chemistry portfolio. So I think combining both, I think is, in our opinion, a unique opportunity and the feedback from customers is indicating that they see a lot of potential in this combination. We'll obviously try to add and extend this to full integrated pollution solution, including digital, including lift solution, including intermention and including process equipment optimization that we deliver on FPSO and other place.

Speaker 2

So there is a place where this will have further effect, in my opinion, is in offshore environment. And also, we will compare and complement each other on trying to find low carbon and solutions that help also create a further differentiated portfolio sustainable pollution chemical portfolio for the market. So we have quite an upside in technology in addition to having upside on market expansion to use our international footprint to complement the strength of Champagne's pollution chemical into North America.

Speaker 9

That's fantastic. Thanks Olivier. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2

You're welcome. Thank you.

Operator

And our last Lemoine with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hey, good evening. Olivier, on carbon capture, understand what SOB is doing and what Aqua is doing. But can you help frame how you see this business developing along with how the combination is greater than the 2 standalone

Speaker 2

entities? Yes. Good question. 1st and foremost, I think we see CCS as certainly the most obvious and the most attractive market, total addressable market, adjacent to our space where we can contribute to decarbonization of the initial space. So we believe we are first a market position and right of play into the sequestration through our technology, through our digital and solution to deliver not only site selection, but also site characterization and development of site for for carbon sequestration.

Speaker 2

So that's our and by doing this, we have significant access to a large number of customers within oil and gas through the hubs and beyond oil and gas to the operator that emitters that are willing to develop. So we have this as a starting point that give us market access across many of the FIDs and many of the projects, and we quoted more than 30 projects we are always part of at any point in time and I think we have had quite a lot of experience there. So we also have invested into capture technology that we have done such as RTI for non aqueous solvents, which are trying to where we are trying to disrupt the intention we have to disrupt the economics of capture for low stream low concentration stream of CO2 in our chlorate sector. But what Aker Carbon Capture brings into this is a commercial solution platform or re commercialized That will serve us as a base for expansion for deployment of our Cableur technology and also we will build on the initial success they have had to deploy this platform onto some European markets and use our footprint where we see the market evolving fast in North America, in Middle East and in Asia and using this platform and being the go to market for this carbon capture solution that they are offering, but supplementing it with our innovation that we are investing and using this as a platform to deploy innovation.

Speaker 2

So combining sequestration and capture to offer this combined opportunity for the customers technology solution and using the platform of the commercial carbon capture, Accur Carbon Capture that exists today, it's commercial and using it as a platform to deploy and add and supplement this with new disruptive technology. That's the purpose and that's the intention we have. That's the ambition we have in this market.

Speaker 10

Okay. And then maybe on North America, it's a smaller piece of your business. But can you talk about how you see it developing over the course of the year past 2Q?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think we have been originally guiding and we are keeping our guidance that we believe that on a full year basis, it will be more muted than we had anticipated at the beginning of the year considering the softness of the market at the start of the year, the persistent low gas price, the capital discipline and also the consolidation in the market. And we expect going forward, we guided low single digit growth sequentially. We anticipate at the end of the year to still outperform the market that we'll see a year on year decline on the reactivity by posting muted but positive growth. But the shortfall that we may have, considering this offset, will be fully offset by international growth as we commented where we see resilience and we see further growth potential in many markets.

Speaker 2

So hence, we have reiterated our full year guidance.

Speaker 10

Okay. Great. Thanks, Olivier.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

We'll turn the conference back to Olivier Lapouche for closing comments.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, to conclude today's call, I would like to leave you with the following takeaways. First, the global energy landscape remains very compelling for our business. Demand for energy is accelerating and this is resulting in strong activity dynamics that are closely aligned with our 3 engines of growth. We will continue to innovate with customers across our core, digital and new energy to meet this demand in the years to come.

Speaker 2

2nd, SAB remains optimally positioned to harness the ongoing OMNBI cycle for further growth. We operate in the most resilient and fastest growing market internationally. And we have a unique portfolio of technology and service that differentiate us in North America. Together, our unmatched footprint and offerings will continue to set us apart and drive our performance globally. And 3rd, after a strong start to 2024 and with clear visibility into the year ahead, we look forward to achieving our full year financial ambition and commitment to shareholders' return.

Speaker 2

This is an exciting time for the industry and I am fully confident in our strategy for the future. I could not hope for a better backdrop to continue delivering for our customers and shareholders. With that, we conclude this morning's call. Thank you all for joining.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude your conference for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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