Federal Signal Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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April 30, 2024

There are 10 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Federal Signal Corporation First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Felix Bauschine, Vice President, Corporate Strategy and Investor Relations.

Operator

Thank you, sir. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to Federal Signal's Q1 20 24 Conference Call. I'm Felix Boesch, the company's Vice President of Corporate Strategy and Investor Relations. Also with me on the call today is Jennifer Sherman, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Ian Hudson, our Chief Financial Officer. We will refer to some presentation slides today as well as to the earnings release, which we issued this morning. The slides can be followed online by going to our website, federalsignal.com, clicking on the investor call icon and signing into the webcast.

Speaker 1

We have also posted the slide presentation and the earnings release under the Investor tab on our website. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that some of our comments made today may contain forward looking statements that are subject to the Safe Harbor language found in today's news release and in Federal Signal's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents are available on our website. Our presentation also contains some measures that are not in accordance with U. S.

Speaker 1

Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. In our earnings release and filings, we reconcile these non GAAP measures to GAAP measures. In addition, we will file our Form 10 Q later today. Ian will start today by providing details on our Q1 financial results. Jennifer will then provide her perspective on our performance, provide an update on our multi year strategic initiatives and our revised outlook for 2024.

Speaker 1

After our prepared comments, we will open the line for any questions. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Ian.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Felix. Our consolidated Q1 financial results are provided in today's earnings release. In summary, we delivered strong financial results for the quarter with double digit year over year net sales and earnings growth, gross margin expansion, a 250 basis points improvement in EBITDA margin and new records in orders and backlog. Consolidated net sales for the quarter were $425,000,000 up $39,000,000 or 10% compared to last year. Organic sales growth for the quarter was $28,000,000 or 7%.

Speaker 2

Consolidated operating income for the quarter was 54,300,000 dollars up $14,800,000 or 37% compared to last year. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $70,600,000 up $16,100,000 or 30% compared to last year. That translates to a margin of 16.6 percent in Q1 this year, up 2 50 basis points compared to last year. GAAP EPS for the quarter was $0.84 per share, up $0.39 per share or 87% from last year. On an adjusted basis, EPS for the quarter was $0.64 per share, up $0.18 per share or 39% from last year.

Speaker 2

Order intake for the quarter was outstanding and we again reported record orders in the Q1, surpassing the previous high, which was set in Q2 last year. In total, orders in Q1 this year were $503,000,000 an increase of $28,000,000 or 6% compared to Q1 last year. Backlog at the end of the quarter was $1,100,000,000 another all time high for the company and an increase of $132,000,000 or 14% compared to Q1 last year. In terms of our group results, ESG's net sales for the quarter were $354,000,000 up 35 point $1,000,000 or 11% compared to last year, despite the effects of a third party component supply issue that delayed the timing of approximately $13,000,000 of unit shipments at our largest facility. ESG's operating income for the quarter was $51,700,000 up $14,100,000 or 38% compared to last year.

Speaker 2

ESG's adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $66,500,000 up $15,300,000 or 30% compared to last year. That translates to an adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter of 18.8%, an improvement of 2 70 basis points compared to last year. ESG reported total orders of $428,000,000 in Q1 this year, an increase of $32,000,000 or 8% compared to last year. SSG's net sales for the quarter were $71,000,000 this year, up $4,000,000 or 6%. SSG's operating income for the quarter was $13,800,000 up $1,700,000 or 14% compared to last year.

Speaker 2

SSG's adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $14,800,000 up $1,600,000 or 12%. That translates to a margin of 20.9% towards the upper end of SSG's target range and up 110 basis points compared to last year. SSG's orders for the quarter were compared to $79,000,000 in Q1 last year. Corporate operating expenses for the quarter were $11,200,000 compared to $10,200,000 last year, with the increase primarily due to higher stock compensation and incentive based compensation expense, partially offset by a benefit from an insurance recovery of approximately $2,000,000 Turning now to the consolidated income statement, where the increase in sales contributed to a $20,200,000 improvement in gross profit. Consolidated gross margin for the quarter was 27.3%, a 240 basis point increase over last year.

Speaker 2

As a percentage of sales, our selling, engineering, general and administrative expenses for the quarter were essentially unchanged from Q1 last year. Other items affecting the quarterly results include a $200,000 increase in acquisition related expenses, a $100,000 increase in other expense and a $1,500,000 reduction in interest expense. During Q1 this year, also recorded a $13,000,000 discrete tax benefit after the Joint Committee on taxation approved the company's tax refund claim resulting from the execution of a multi year tax planning strategy. We expect to receive the cash refund during the Q2. Including this benefit and the recognition of $800,000 in excess tax benefits associated with stock compensation activity, we recognized an income tax benefit of $700,000 in the current year quarter compared to income tax expense of $7,300,000 in the prior year quarter.

Speaker 2

Our effective tax rate for Q1 this year was a benefit of 1.4 percent including the $13,000,000 tax benefit an expense of approximately 24% without it. That compares to an effective tax rate of 21% in Q1 last year. At this time, we expect our effective tax rate for the remaining three quarters of 2024 to be between 25% 26%, excluding any additional discrete tax benefits. On an overall GAAP basis, we therefore earned $0.84 per share in Q1 this year compared with $0.45 per share in Q1 last year. To facilitate earnings comparisons, we typically adjust our GAAP earnings per share for unusual items recorded in the current or prior quarters.

Speaker 2

In the current year quarters, we made adjustments to GAAP earnings per share to exclude acquisition related expenses and the $13,000,000 tax benefit I previously mentioned. On this basis, our adjusted earnings for the quarter were $0.64 per share compared with $0.46 per share last year. Looking now at cash flow, we generated $31,000,000 of cash from operations during the quarter, an increase of $24,000,000 from Q1 last year. We ended the quarter with $223,000,000 of net debt availability under our credit facility of $516,000,000 Our current net debt leverage ratio remains low. With our financial position remaining strong, we have significant flexibility to invest in organic growth initiatives, pursue strategic acquisitions and return cash to stockholders through dividends and opportunistic share repurchases.

Speaker 2

On that note, we paid dividends of 7,300,000 during the quarter, reflecting an increased dividend of $0.12 per share, and we recently announced a similar dividend for the 2nd quarter. That concludes my comments and I would now like to turn the call over to Jennifer.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Ian. Our first quarter results represent a strong start to the year as our team set forth set 1st quarter performance records across many metrics including net sales and adjusted EPS, while orders and backlog again rose to new all time highs. The strength of the sales growth and margin expansion during Q1 reinforce the underlying themes and strategies we have previously discussed. Within our Environmental Solutions Group, we were able to deliver 11% year over year net sales growth and a 30% increase in adjusted EBITDA. Strong aftermarket demand, continued price realization, contributions from our recent acquisitions and increases in production at several businesses were meaningful contributors to this year over year growth, which was achieved despite an isolated third party component supply issue that we experienced in March at our Streator manufacturing facility.

Speaker 3

We have previously discussed our objective to increase production levels at this facility in an effort to reduce lead times. And on that note, we started this year strong with unit production over the 1st 2 months of the year up 12% year over year. Upon encountering this issue in March, we shifted some of our production to prioritize customer deliveries at the expense of units destined for our own rental fleet, which resulted in fewer rental fleet additions in Q1 than we had originally anticipated. As Ian noted, this component supply issue delayed the timing of approximately $13,000,000 of sewer cleaner shipments in the quarter as we were unable to ship several substantially completed units. In order to minimize the impact of this disruption, our teams have worked diligently with our supplier and have identified a solution that we began implementing in April.

Speaker 3

Importantly, given our mitigating actions, recovery plan and good access to labor, we expect to ship all impacted units in the Q2 and do not believe this will materially alter our underlying building plans for the rest of the year. More broadly across our businesses, we continue to see incremental underlying supply chain improvements, though as we have recently experienced, episodic challenges remain at several of our ESG businesses. We believe that we are well positioned to respond to supply chain challenges and we continue to expect gradual build rate increases throughout the year. Our dump truck body businesses had a standout quarter with sales up 7% on the back of improving chassis availability for the majority of our businesses and supply chain fluidity. The increased dump truck body production coupled with our rigorous eightytwenty processes at several key facilities including our ox bodies plant in Fayette, Alabama was a contributing factor in our year over year margin improvement within the ESG segment.

Speaker 3

Although supply of Class 5 chassis remains a constraint for a minority share of our dump body businesses, we remain optimistic for further build rate increases on a combination of pent up replacement demand, underlying demand increases and improving chassis flow across Class 8 units. Our teams also continue to find innovative solutions to best serve our customers throughout this still fluid supply chain environment. One such example is the recent launch of our interchangeable body product Switch and Go on a Class 3 chassis. We introduced this lighter weight product at the NTEA show in March and have received positive customer feedback as it further broadens chassis options for existing customers while targeting additional end markets. Shifting to aftermarket.

Speaker 3

Activity remains strong across our offerings as total aftermarket revenue increased 6% year over year led by an 11% year over year increase in part sales and a 9% year over year increase in rental income as demand for our equipment and utilization rates remain elevated. The recent acquisitions of Ground Force and TowHaul also provided meaningful contributions to our year over year growth in parts sales with TowHaul parts representing approximately 60% of its total revenues in the quarter. Going forward, we continue to see potential for further aftermarket growth as the team optimizes recently acquired businesses and new businesses are introduced to the platform via M and A. In aggregate, aftermarket represented 26% of ESG revenue in the Q1 of 2024. In addition to strong organic growth, our recent acquisitions also contributed with Trackless, our most recent acquisition continuing its strong start adding approximately $11,000,000 to our top line during the quarter.

Speaker 3

Shifting to our Safety and Security Systems group, the team delivered another quarter of strong results with 6% top line growth and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 20.9 percent at the top end of our SSG margin target range. Sales of public safety equipment and warning systems led the charge with revenues up 12% and 15% respectively. Our teams are seeing continued efficiency benefits resulting from recent investments, increased operating leverage and rising volumes and strong price realization, all of which contributed to a 110 basis point margin improvement year over year. Lastly, we are pleased with our cash generation in the quarter as cash from operations rose by more than $20,000,000 year over year. Recall, the Q1 typically represents our lowest cash flow quarter due to seasonal working capital build and rental fleet investment.

Speaker 3

On an annual basis, we continue to target 100% cash conversion level. Shifting now to current market conditions. Demand for our product offerings remained strong with our Q1 order intake representing a new quarterly record. The composition of orders remains balanced between publicly funded and industrial end markets, though demand for our dump truck body stood out with orders up approximately $22,000,000 or 38 percent in the quarter. We believe this to be driven by a combination of pent up replacement demand as chassis supply shortages have weighed on demand last year, execution on strategic initiatives across different end markets and high current equipment utilization levels.

Speaker 3

As mentioned on our last call, we are seeing early examples of our equipment being used in projects resulting from the $550,000,000,000 bipartisan infrastructure bill. Although not material at this point, some of the pieces of equipment currently in use at early infrastructure funded projects include street sweepers, safe digging equipment and warning systems. While we are encouraged to see these early examples, we still believe we remain in early innings of what should prove to be a multiyear demand uplift for our suite of products and aftermarket services pursuant to the infrastructure bill. We also continue to see strong demand for our publicly funded side of the business as our diversification and market share efforts are yielding positive results. To provide some context around this, public funded refers to a wide range of funding mechanisms for our products, including water taxes for our flagship sewer cleaners, general U.

Speaker 3

S. Municipal funds, certain U. S. Federal funds, Canadian provincial budgets, Canadian federal funds and several international budgets, especially for our European SSG business Pharma. Lastly, although SSG Q1 orders were down slightly compared to record orders in the prior year period, we were pleased with the $75,000,000 orders reported this quarter.

Speaker 3

Recall that in Q1 last year, we booked an $11,000,000 fleet order for public safety equipment from a customer in Mexico that we did not expect to repeat. Our teams continue to focus on increasing production levels to build more trucks as we aim to reduce current backlog and lead times while continuing to maintain a healthy order intake. We continue to believe that we have ample physical capacity and good access to labor to allow for scaling of current production level. I now want to take a few minutes to provide an update on a couple of our key multiyear internal growth initiatives, many of which mark the foundation on which we recently raised our margin targets. Starting with aftermarket.

Speaker 3

Growth of our rental and used equipment strategy continues to resonate well in the marketplace. Given the addition of rental and used offerings, we are targeting new cohorts of customers for many of our flagship products, including our sewer cleaners, safe digging trucks, street sweepers and water blasting solutions. Jetstream, our water blasting business is a great example of the success of our aftermarket strategy in recent years as sales of parts, service and rentals have grown at high single digit CAGR since 2016, which has increased Jetstream's aftermarket mix by 400 basis points over that timeframe. This change in revenue composition was a strategic action the team undertook to best serve our customers' needs, while at the same time expanding applications for the use of our equipment. We see similar optimization efforts across our other products.

Speaker 3

In fact, over the last 6 months, a cross functional team has undergone a review of our commercial strategy for our TRUVAC safe digging products and our Guzzler industrial vacuum loaders. As part of this process, we have identified opportunities for growth in certain territories we believe to be currently underserved that warrant incremental investments in the form of TRUVAC and Guzzler rental additions and other related service assets addressing a need in certain territories that we have recently assumed. As a result, over the remainder of the year, we currently expect to incur incremental TRUVAC and Guzzler fleet investments beyond what we had originally contemplated in our previous 2024 guidance. By allocating more of our production to our internal fleet, we expect these investments to represent a revenue drag of up to $20,000,000 compared to our original revenue outlook and also pose a headwind to current year EBITDA. These factors have been embedded into our latest outlook for the year.

Speaker 3

Importantly, we expect these TRUVAC and Guzzler aftermarket investments to be accretive to our longer term outlook as units become operational, generate rental and parts income and subsequently translate into used equipment sales with many rental customers purchasing the equipment following the initial rental period. In addition to providing attractive returns, our aftermarket model helps us to access new customer cohorts. Recall, we continue to believe that rising adoption of safe digging excavation methods in the United States remains an important tailwind for our business in the coming years. This coupled with the proliferation of use cases for hydro excavation and rising demand from the bipartisan infrastructure bill leaves us and our dealer partners optimistic regarding future demand. In short, we see our aftermarket business as a growing ecosystem spanning parts, service, rental and used equipment offerings that is particularly powerful for newly acquired companies coming on to the platform.

Speaker 3

In fact, just last week, I had the opportunity to attend our team's open house at our new JJE facility located in the Denver area, where we showcased a dozen different Federal Signal brands out of 1 shared location to over 150 customers in attendance. It is the shared aftermarket footprint that allows us to best serve our customers at scale. Our M and A pipeline also remains active. We are diligently working on optimizing our recently acquired businesses, while surgically evaluating new opportunities that meet our criteria. Lastly, our new product development remains at the core of the federal signal identity.

Speaker 3

We remain focused on several electrification projects across our family of vehicles and we are pleased with the early momentum of our electric street sweeper orders. We are also introducing several new products within our SSG businesses, including a universal mass warning siren control and we expect to begin accepting orders for the Class 3 Switch and Go product next month. Turning to our outlook for the rest of the year. Demand for our products and our aftermarket offerings remained strong with both our orders and backlog this quarter again setting new company records. With our Q1 performance, our record backlog and continued execution against our strategic and operational initiatives, we are raising our full year adjusted EPS outlook to a new range of $2.95 to $3.15 from the prior range of $2.85 to $3.05 As noted, this outlook contemplates higher than originally anticipated investments in our rental fleet from Q2 to Q4 given our prioritization of slots to external customers in the Q1 and our aftermarket growth strategy.

Speaker 3

The guidance also reflects our view of continued gradual build increases and healthy demand for our parts and service offerings. At this time, we are also reaffirming our full year net sales outlook between $1,850,000,000 $1,900,000,000 We also continue to expect double digit improvement in pre tax earnings and EBITDA margin performance in the upper half of our target range. Lastly, we are maintaining our CapEx outlook of $35,000,000 to $45,000,000 for the year. At this time, I think we're ready for questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer Our first question comes from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 2

Hi, good morning.

Speaker 3

Good morning.

Speaker 4

Yes. It is a good morning.

Speaker 3

It

Speaker 4

is. I want to first start with the dealer channel. Obviously, a huge focus. You spent the whole slide on internal growth initiatives. What percentage of the dealers have a market share where realistically it will be hard to grow share versus what percentage have lower share in their region and you'd consider substantial opportunity for share?

Speaker 3

Yes. So we've over beginning in 2023 last year and moving into this year, we've undertaken initiative working closely with our dealer partners to better understand market share. In fact, Felix in his strategy role is leading that effort. And we have several very strong dealer partners. I think all of them would agree this initiative has been helpful and there's a lot of opportunity we believe to grow market share, particularly, with some of our organic growth initiatives as we move forward.

Speaker 4

I guess, okay. What percentage of the channel is optimized for rental and aftermarket, meaning all the infrastructures in place to drive meaningful revenue as you push those initiatives out?

Speaker 3

I think, we always think there's opportunities to improve. We have several strong dealer partners with the ecosystem that we've talked about in terms of new equipment, rental and then used equipment sales, we think that opens up the door for new customers as we move forward. We continue to always identify opportunities to improve as we move forward.

Speaker 4

Okay. And I'll just I'll ask one more about the channel. I think the target for aftermarket to include rental is around 30% or a little less. And I know it's hard to build rental with your new equipment backlog where it is and you mentioned that for this quarter. The question is, can you compare margin or return on capital for aftermarket and rental versus selling equipment on a 3rd party basis?

Speaker 4

How favorable or is it in line or much more favorable? Just trying to gauge the benefit because it seems like a big opportunity.

Speaker 2

Yes. Steve, I think when we look at kind of the optimal life cycle of a piece of our equipment, when you consider the part you put a piece of equipment into the rental fleet, you rent it for a period of 2 to 3 years, you get the parts and service revenue over that time period and then you sell it as a used piece of equipment. And our equipment tends to retain its resale value pretty well. When we look at that whole return versus a new equipment sale, it's more attractive to put it through that kind of aftermarket ecosystem as we refer to it. So yes, the and that's what we were trying to explain with the investments we're making in the fleet.

Speaker 2

From a return standpoint, while it may be a headwind to EBITDA in 2024, the longer term returns are more attractive than new equipment sales. And so from a return standpoint, that's really one of the drivers for the investment.

Speaker 3

And what's exciting for us is it opens up, both for us and for our dealer partners, new customers that particularly with that used equipment, because it's at a different price point.

Speaker 4

No, understood. Yes. It seems like there's a lot of opportunity through a lot of different facets of the dealer channel. But with that, I'll get back in line. Thanks.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Steve. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Moore with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Good morning, guys. Good morning. Maybe we'll just stay with the rental fleet for a second. So obviously, you talked about the 3rd party component supply, you to help offset some of that, you took some rental fleet production from Q1 that normally impacts Q1. Is that fair to say that piece of it could have a little bit of impact on Q2?

Speaker 3

Right now, yes, we did shift some of the rental delivery from Q1 to Q2. In addition, as we talked about as a result of this cross functional task force, we will be investing up to $20,000,000 of equipment in safe digging equipment and our guzzler equipment. We baked all that into the improved guidance that we gave this morning. So we think we're in pretty good shape.

Speaker 5

Got you. That's helpful. You talked about this a little bit. So I think roughly 80% of your products are touched at some point by the infrastructure spending and just want to go a little deeper maybe into the timing. It sounds like early on Street Sweep or some safety equipment would be more of the focus.

Speaker 5

And as things evolve over the next few years, The balance of that 80% or how should I look at that timing?

Speaker 3

Yes. So we believe we've seen some limited examples thus far, particularly with respect to street sweeping, safe digging equipment, dump trucks and then our warning systems. So again, we think we're in very early innings. Sometimes it's hard to understand, particularly with dump trucks because they have multi uses where they're going. But we saw dump truck orders were up $22,000,000 or 38 percent.

Speaker 3

So that was encouraging. We continue to monitor the White House website. And we believe that the cadence of projects is beginning and that will provide multiyear tailwind for the company as we move forward.

Speaker 5

Got it. Maybe just one last one for me. The new product development, obviously, EV very important. It looks like the biggest hurdle to any significant move by customers to electrification is the cost, not cost coming necessarily from federal signal. Just trying to kind of understand what you're seeing there and what your thoughts might be over the medium term?

Speaker 3

Yes. So EV continues to be an important tenant of our NPD program. We introduced and showcased several EV dump trucks at the NTA show. We're encouraged by the although still small, the increasing pace of orders for our electric street sweeper product. But price does seem to be the biggest single objection and particularly it's around the cost of the chassis that we don't manufacture.

Speaker 3

But we are fully committed to continuing our EV development efforts and we expect as we move forward that sales will continue to increase.

Speaker 5

Got it. That makes sense. I will jump back in line. Appreciate it guys.

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Schulze with D. A. Davidson. Please proceed with your

Speaker 6

I just want to get some more detail from you on your plans in rentals. It's still a relatively small part of the business. It's within a large proportion of other parts in the infrastructure world that use in a lot of projects across whether it's bucket trucks and certain kinds of dump trucks, certain kinds of safety equipment for construction sites, etcetera. I guess I'm kind of curious more long term, how large as a percent of your business do you think rental can or ought to be? Kind of how far could this kind of go here?

Speaker 3

Yes. I think the thing that's important is to think about the ecosystem. And when we rent a truck, the times can vary, but it's usually between 18 months 2 years. And in many situations that the entity that's renting the truck buys the truck. So it's that used equipment that is an important part of the ecosystem in addition to parts and service.

Speaker 3

Furthermore, we have several strong rental partners and we continue to support their efforts in the field. We began in the rental business in 2016. And if you look at our investment into our fleet, you can see that it hasn't meaningfully changed, over time given the growth of the company. And we continue to believe that the largest part of our aftermarket business is parts, which is continuing to grow. And that's again kind of going back to that ecosystem that we talk about.

Speaker 3

It is we rent, we sell it as used equipment and there's also that parts and service business that's continued to grow. That's a critical part of that ecosystem.

Speaker 6

So just to kind of recap that then the added assets you're putting in now is pretty much it. You don't have a much broader plan to make rental the lion's share or a very large sum of the overall revenues?

Speaker 2

Yes. Mike, the investment we talked about was just a specific investment we're making in certain territories that we recently assumed. So it's more we look at the investments and the additions to our fleet. We look at it product by product. So we're very selective in how and when we add.

Speaker 2

And so that's really the driver for this most recent investment that we're making.

Speaker 6

Got it. And then secondly, I wanted to ask about Class A chassis supply. At this point, is Class A in any way a gating factor for your production? Or do you feel that your full supply at this point that there's a fair bit increases in some OEM Class 8 vocational chassis, not all of them? I'm curious as to how you're feeling right now about the rest of the year here?

Speaker 3

We feel really good. Class A chassis supply is not an issue for us.

Speaker 6

Outstanding. I'll pass along at this point. Thanks so much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Walt Liptak with Seaport Research. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 7

Hi, thank you. Good morning. Good quarter, guys.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 7

I wanted to ask about the backlog. You had the strong orders this quarter and the backlog now at like $1,100,000,000 which is a great thing, but at what point is there a point at which the backlog is too big and becomes a bad thing?

Speaker 3

I think as we've talked about, we're very focused on building more trucks, which translates into increased throughput at our various businesses. We have focused on reducing our lead times and we're making some progress. Before we had the 3rd party supply chain issue in March, production at our Streator facility was up 12% for the 1st two periods of the year. So we're and with the implementation of the federal single operating system in our eightytwenty efforts, We continue to expect increased throughput to the year, while maintaining strong orders, we expect those lead times to come down.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. What how should we think about the backlog like at the end of the year if you're successful? And do we stay around this $1,000,000,000 level through the year? Or do you think it comes down?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think we want to, obviously, as Jennifer mentioned, while we want to reduce those lead times our our goals for the year are really increasing build rates per day, increasing production, things of that nature. But we want to maintain that healthy order intake level. So that's really the focus.

Speaker 7

Okay. That sounds great. And then the orders, I wanted to ask about the orders for the dump truck business and just some questions around that. How big is the dump truck revenue on an annual basis? And what were the trends in the last couple of years?

Speaker 7

Because I'm recalling that there were some supply chain issues on chassis and maybe not the order levels or whatever in the last couple of years. And you talked about pent up demand. So I wonder if you can help quantify how big is the revenue for that business and what was the growth rates the last couple of years?

Speaker 2

Yes. So the dump trucks represent about 17% of our total revenues. We took as you I think we mentioned on the call that the orders in that business were up $2,000,000 or 38 percent year over year. So what we've seen there is really nice growth with the improvement in some of the chassis flow. We do believe that, that is a business where there is some pent up demand because to your point on the recent trends, that business has been impacted by the tightness in the flow of chassis in recent years.

Speaker 2

So we do believe there is pent up demand, but what we saw in Q1 is gives us encouragement that with the improvement in chassis, there is going to be that pent up demand. And what we've also seen is some of our businesses have been able to kind of expand geographically, which is really encouraging because as we think about I think we had a question earlier about the infrastructure bill and the potential there. We think dump trucks is one area. Probably on the earlier end of the funding for that would be dump trucks. So we're encouraged with what we saw in Q1 and think there's probably more to come.

Speaker 3

Yes. I'll just add there, kind of reiterating what Ian said. We've got a really good team. They're very focused on geographic expansion and market share growth. And they're having some early successes.

Speaker 3

So with the improved chassis supply, really good quarter by our dump truck businesses and more to come.

Speaker 7

Okay, great. Okay, thanks for the color.

Operator

Our next question comes from Greg Burns with Sidoti and Co. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Good morning. Given the substantial backlog and the extended lead times, could you just talk a little bit more maybe about the calculus or the thought behind diverting production maybe towards the rental fleet? I understand the longer term opportunity, but how does that decision factor in with this idea that we want to get lead times down also at the same time, maybe you could do both hand in hand. And also the investments that you're looking to make into the rental fleet are could those even be higher were not for the lead times needing to manage those? Like what's the dynamic there?

Speaker 2

Thank you. Yes. I think the investment, Greg, that we're talking about is specifically. We're product lines, the lead times are probably in an area that will be what we would call normal. So we're not in the same situation with sewer cleaners and sweepers where those lead times are probably more extended than we'd like.

Speaker 2

So the investment really is not it's focused on the product lines where lead times are normal. So that's one area. The other reason that there is that need to add more units to the fleet is just given the strength of used equipment sales that we've seen. And that creates that need to replenish. We talked about in Q1 shifting some of the production there to prioritize customers.

Speaker 2

So there is that shift that we had. We had planned to add units to the fleet in Q1. Some of that has now shifted to Q2. So kind of for the full year, that piece is somewhat neutral to our prior guide. The incremental investment we're talking about is primarily on the

Speaker 3

is that we carefully monitor our rental fleet utilization and used equipment sales, parts and service. And as we assume these additional territories specifically for safe digging and for Guzzler, we see opportunities there and we want to be prepared to respond to that because we continue to believe that used equipment in particular along with parts service will be an important growth area for the company.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Dave Storms with Stonegate Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 9

Good morning. Preston Graham sitting in for Dave today. You mentioned in your prepared remarks that your M and A pipeline continues to be strong. I guess any additional color you can share on what you're seeing in the M and A environment? And what type of tuck ins could make sense for the business going forward?

Speaker 3

Yes. I think we're in a pretty good place right now. We're working on a number of different opportunities. Again, in many cases, these are opportunities that we have sourced and we develop relationships over a longer period of time. So pipeline is full and more to come.

Speaker 3

And I guess I'll reiterate that M and A will continue to be a meaningful part of our growth story as we move forward. I mentioned in my prepared remarks, I was out in Denver last week at our open house. It was really exciting to see what happens when you bring all of these federal signal brands together under one umbrella. So good example of some of our organic growth initiatives and then some of our M and A working together.

Speaker 9

Got it. Very helpful. Thank you. And then one follow-up. Last quarter, you touched on some lumpiness in sort of the fleet orders, some of the large fleet orders.

Speaker 9

Obviously, it's hard to predict, but I guess could you talk a little bit more about what you're seeing from your fleet customers from a demand perspective?

Speaker 3

Yes. So one of the things we were encouraged was demand across the board was very strong. And we're particularly encouraged by, as we talked about kind of the dump truck orders, the SSG orders were strong. And despite the fact that the year over year comparable is tough because they had a one time $11,000,000 order to Mexico in Q1 of 2023. And again, it's pretty balanced between the publicly funded and the industrial side, which we believe is encouraging and an important sign of the health of our business.

Speaker 9

Thank you. That's helpful. Okay, I'll jump back in the queue.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Jennifer Sherman for closing comments.

Speaker 3

In closing, I would like to reiterate that we are confident in the long term prospects for our businesses and our markets. We remain focused on executing against our strategic framework. We would like to express our thanks to our stockholders, employees, distributors, dealers and customers for their continued support. Thank you for joining us today and we'll talk to you soon.

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Federal Signal Q1 2024
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