Broadwind Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 14, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Broadwind's First Quarter 20 24 Results Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Tom Ciccone, Chief Financial Officer. Thank you.

Operator

You may begin.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to the Broadwind First Quarter 2024 Results Conference Call. Leading the call today is our CEO, Eric Blashford and I'm Tom Ciccone, the company's Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We issued a press release before the market opened today detailing our Q1 results. I would like to remind you that management's commentary and responses to questions on today's conference call may include forward looking statements, which by their nature are uncertain and outside of the company's control. Although these forward looking statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, actual results may differ materially.

Speaker 1

For a discussion of some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to the Risk Factors section of our latest annual and quarterly filings with the SEC. Additionally, please note that you can find reconciliations of the historical non GAAP financial measures discussed during our call in the press release issued today. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to Eric. Thanks, Tom,

Speaker 2

and welcome to those joining us today. Broadwind delivered solid Q1 results, highlighted by improved margin realization, higher net income and increased adjusted EBITDA, even though revenue was down from the prior year quarter. Offsetting a transitional pause in new wind tower demand, 1st quarter results benefited from a higher value sales mix, price discipline and targeted cost reduction actions to yield improvement in gross margin and EBITDA margin of 3.30 basis points and 2.70 basis points, respectively. This marks our 5th consecutive quarter of profitability despite lingering wind related headwinds. We booked $29,000,000 of orders in the 1st quarter, a decline as compared to the prior year period, but up nearly 44% sequentially versus Q4 2023, continuing the favorable order trend across all divisions, which began in the second half of last year.

Speaker 2

Gearing orders increased sequentially across all markets led by wind, mining and energy. We also continue to see strong activity levels from the natural gas turbine market served by our Industrial Solutions segment, driven by global electricity demand growth and a shift away from coal fired power around the world. At a commercial level, we continue to expand our product mix within higher margin adjacent markets. The release of the Broadwind Clean Fuels L70 Low Flow PRS unit, the 3rd model in this product family remains on track for the 3rd quarter and will include a version designed to accommodate RNG or Renewable Natural Gas. We're expanding our portfolio of industrial fabrications to include new products and we're seeing increased customer interest from the defense industry now that our ITAR certifications are complete for both the Heavy Fabrications and Gearing divisions.

Speaker 2

ITAR or International Traffic and Arms Regulations as the United States regulatory control program to restrict the export of defense and military related technologies to safeguard U. S. National security. Furthermore, the Gearing division is progressing towards its AS9100 quality certification, which we expect to earn in Q4, opening further opportunities in aerospace and defense for our gearing products. Operationally, we're seeing the favorable impact from our efforts to lean out our manufacturing processes from quote to shipment, removing waste and improving individual accountability throughout the production process.

Speaker 2

Our focus on team member safety training has yielded a 50% reduction in our recordable incident rate in Q1, which was already trending below industry average. And we are very pleased to have had 0 lost time incidents. Our quality systems, standard work deployment and flexible skills training have allowed us to improve our response time and increase the profitability of smaller of the smaller qualification runs often associated with new customers. In recent quarters, we've taken significant actions to align our cost structure with the current demand environment. In combination, these actions will contribute more than $4,000,000 in annualized cost savings beginning with the Q1 of this year.

Speaker 2

While total revenue declined versus year ago levels given lower tower demand, our non wind activity levels remain stable as we see stable demand for our precision manufacturing capabilities across multiple markets. In Q1, we generated adjusted EBITDA of $4,200,000 and net income of $1,500,000 nearly double the prior year period. Boating activity in our non wind markets has been robust so far in 2024 and we expect good order flow this year, notwithstanding the continuing softness in the oil and gas gear market, which we believe will continue for the next several quarters. Within our Heavy Fabrication segment, Q1 revenue was $22,000,000 down 30% from a year ago, primarily due to the decline in tower production, partially offset by increased sales of mining equipment and our natural gas pressure reducing systems. Gearing revenue was $8,300,000 a 30% reduction year over year due to broad based softness across major markets.

Speaker 2

However, our book to bill and gearing was 1.3x, indicating the ongoing recovery in this business. Industrial Solutions revenue was $8,000,000 up 47% year over year, led by increases in both new and aftermarket gas turbine content, continuing the positive trend for this business, which began in 2022. In summary, I'm pleased with the operating performance of all divisions. Through the Q1, as we took quick and substantial cost actions response to demand fluctuations in both our heavy fabrications and gearing units to deliver favorable results for the quarter. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Tom for a discussion of our Q1 financial performance.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Eric. Turning to Slide 5 for an overview of our Q1 performance. We delivered our 5th consecutive quarter of profitability during a period of softness within the onshore wind industry sector highlighted by meaningful margin expansion resulting from a higher margin sales mix and targeted cost reductions. In Q1, we generated $4,200,000 of EBITDA compared to $4,100,000 in the prior year quarter. We generated net income of $1,500,000 or 0 point 0 $7 per diluted share in the Q1 compared to 0 point 8 1,000,000 dollars or $0.04 per diluted share in the prior year quarter.

Speaker 1

Turning to Slide 6 for discussion of our heavy fabrication segment. Q1 orders of $11,000,000 are down 45% versus the prior year period, primarily due to the reduced wind tower orders. Tower related orders continue to be limited as a result of the existing backlog that originated as part of a significant supply agreement for wind tower purchases entered into in Q4 'twenty two. We did see an 18% increase in orders for our non wind revenue streams, primarily related to our mining and industrial markets. 1st quarter revenues were $22,000,000 down $9,600,000 versus the prior year quarter.

Speaker 1

We sold 78 tower sections versus 140 in the prior year quarter. This reduced level of tower sales versus the prior year is consistent with our previous commentary regarding the slowing of Abilene production late in Q4 in response to customer demand. During the Q1, we recognized segment EBITDA of 3,100,000 dollars a decrease of $700,000 versus the prior year period, primarily driven by the decrease in tower sections sold. This was partially offset by a more profitable mix of products sold as well as some targeted cost reductions. Turning to Slide 7, gearing orders slowed in Q1 versus the prior year.

Speaker 1

Q1 orders totaled $10,400,000 a $2,000,000 decrease versus the prior year quarter. The majority of the decrease was attributable to the reduction in oil and gas demand given the decline in domestic development activity as producers are deploying relatively less capital for drilling. Orders did increase sequentially nearly threefold as we saw broad based improvement across all track markets, indicative of our efforts to diversify into less cyclical end markets. Segment revenue was $8,300,000 down $3,600,000 compared to the prior year quarter and EBITDA decreased $600,000 to $700,000 reflective of the lower sales volume. Turning to Slide 8 for a discussion of our Industrial Solutions segment.

Speaker 1

Industrial Solutions had another strong quarter with revenue of nearly $8,000,000 This represents the strongest revenue quarter for the segment since the Red Wolf acquisition in 2017. Orders of $7,300,000 remain at historically higher levels and were up both sequentially and versus the prior year quarter. Our backlog of $16,100,000 continues to remain at an elevated level as we continue to see strong demand for our core natural gas turbine offerings. 1st quarter segment revenues benefited from the relatively strong backlog we've been carrying throughout 2023 and into Q1. EBITDA increased to 1,900,000 dollars from $800,000 in the prior year quarter, consistent with the increased revenue and a more profitable mix of products sold when compared to the prior year.

Speaker 1

Turning to Slide 9. At the end of the Q1, our revolving line of credit was undrawn and we had cash and availability under our credit facility of over $22,000,000 As we noted last quarter, during Q1, we collected the remaining $7,000,000 of 2023 AMP credits and we're able to reduce our net debt inclusive of finance leases by over $3,000,000 During Q1, we experienced an increase in operating working capital of nearly $5,000,000 This was driven primarily by a decrease in our deposit balance as we changed terms with a major customer. We furthermore anticipate operating working capital to continue to increase over the balance of 2024 as our deposit balance decreases and our AR balance increases consistent with the change in terms as well as our expected mix of customers. Finally, with respect to our financial guidance, today we are introducing financial guidance for the Q2 of 2024. Given current expectations and beliefs, we anticipate 2nd quarter revenue to be in a range of $37,000,000 to $39,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA to be in a range of 2.5 to $3,500,000 That concludes my remarks.

Speaker 1

I'll turn the call back over to Eric to continue our discussion.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Tom. Now allow me to provide some thoughts as we enter Q2, beginning with our Heavy Fabrication segment. We believe domestic onshore wind activity is poised to accelerate meaningfully in the 2025, 2026 timeframe, given current indications of interest from customers. Although a higher interest rate environment has impacted project economics for some developers, leading them to temporarily delay or defer the timing of their investments. In the interim, we've aligned our cost to reflect a period of lower production volumes at our tower facilities, while repurposing talent and available capacity toward non wind demand across our diverse end markets.

Speaker 2

We remain highly constructive on the long term economics of wind, particularly with a 10 year tax credit visibility afforded by the IRA. In our Gearing segment, average to broaden our sales mix into less cyclical markets continue, positioning us to realize a more balanced stable revenue profile. We added another experienced commercial sales agent to our team to expand our penetration into new precision machining markets with OEM customers in need of our unique 5 axis capabilities for large, diverse, non gearing applications. Boating activity is up more than 2 50 percent and we're pleased that our commercial strategy is yielding increasing opportunities for diverse growth. In Industrial Solutions, we are seeing significant signs of momentum in the gas turbine industry, both in the demand for new products and on the services aftermarket side.

Speaker 2

Our quote activity in this sector is up over 40% from the prior year. As a result, we are continuing to invest in both additional personnel and equipment to manage the growth that we are experiencing and to be responsive to the time sensitive needs of our customers in this sector. Concurrently, we are continuing our work with our key partners in both the wind repowering and solar markets as we focus our efforts on growing in these key energy transition markets. In summary, I am pleased with the strong operational performance from our team this quarter as we continue to demonstrate strong execution on our strategic priorities. We've pivoted our cost structure during a transitional period for domestic onshore wind demand, while retaining and redeploying our highly skilled workforce.

Speaker 2

We continue to build a firm foundation for steady, profitable growth, serving the energy transition and other key markets and look forward to capitalizing on improved demand in the years ahead. With that said, I'll turn the call over to the moderator for the Q and A session.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer Our first question comes from Eric Stine with Craig Hallum. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 3

Hi, Eric. Hi, Tom. Good morning.

Speaker 1

Morning, Eric.

Speaker 4

Hey, so maybe can we

Speaker 3

just start with the change terms with the new customers? It sounds like that that will weigh on working capital here, it did in Q1 and will for the foreseeable future. Just curious, is that something that is kind of a one off with this specific customer? Or is this something that is more indicative of maybe working capital trends going forward?

Speaker 1

I would say it's more specific to this particular customer. It happens to be a major customer. So it's rather significant to us. So yes, we did our operating working capital increased about $5,000,000 in Q1 and a lot of that was related to our deposit balances. You can see from looking at our balance sheet, we do anticipate that trend to continue from a deposit perspective as well as receivable should increase as well during the

Speaker 3

year. Got it. I mean, anything that you can share in terms of what changed? I mean, does this have to do with whether it's conditions of the relationship between the two parties or just the nature of business between the two parties? Anything there would be helpful?

Speaker 1

I would think the latter, just nothing specific that we can point to, just the nature of the business between the two parties, I think.

Speaker 3

Okay.

Speaker 2

Yeah, what I would say Eric is that it's actually returning to terms that were in place several years ago. So it's a return to normal terms.

Speaker 3

Okay. All right. And then maybe just on the wind side, obviously it's a pretty it's a challenging environment right now, but it sounds like you're getting a little more optimistic. Should we take that to mean that orders, I mean potentially you think you could start to see an order pick up in late 'twenty four. So it really, I mean, obviously would not impact the results of this fiscal year.

Speaker 3

But that's how we should take your commentary?

Speaker 2

Yes, I think so. I think our customers believe, as do we, that the industry, the wind power industry onshore has hit a trough and we're kind of heading up the other direction in that trough. I would use the term cautiously optimistic about late 'twenty four into 'twenty five and more bullish into 'twenty six, so I would say yes, order activity should increase late 2024 into 2025 and through 2025 and 2006.

Speaker 3

Got it. And any or maybe I know you've aligned the cost, but you've also refocused some of the capacity in Abilene to other end markets. Maybe just delve into that topic a little bit and is there a time where you see and maybe it is late 'twenty four when you

Speaker 2

by all 4 OEMs, most directly 3 of the 4 major OEMs in capacity in that Abilene plant. We are producing our PRS systems. Those are the pressure reducing systems in Abilene and in Manitowoc. They really don't interfere with wind tower production, but we do transfer labor in between. So I would say that the chance for us to have multiple OEMs in that factory in 'twenty five and through 'twenty six is certainly possible.

Speaker 2

There's interest, but there's also interest in our northern plant as well. As I've mentioned before, it's less aggressive or less robust than the Texas region where we have the Abilene plant, but interest is increasing in our northern plant as well, both in terms of new towers, but especially in terms of repowering activity, which we produce in our northern plant.

Speaker 3

Got it. That is good to hear. And then lastly, just last quarter, this quarter as well talking about aerospace and is that when is that when you start to see this become a more meaningful part of the business or should we think about it, it's further out than that?

Speaker 2

I would say 25 and 26 definitely, especially in gearing. And what these certifications do for us is we've had inquiries from defense and aerospace customers before, but sometimes their terms and conditions require a certification or the IHR certification, which is defense, or the AS9100, which is aerospace, and we've had to no bid on some of those opportunities. Well, we wanted to get inside that fence, if you will, inside the perimeter, and now with ITAR, we are getting more activity inquiries from the defense industry in both heavy fabrications and gearing. In the AS9100, the customers were advertising to the customers that we should have that by Q4, and that's really increased activity in gearing from the aerospace standpoint. So I'd say I would definitely expect activity in 'twenty five to be actual order and revenue activity in 'twenty five increasing through 'twenty six and beyond.

Operator

Our next question from Justin Clare with Roth

Speaker 4

Good morning. So I just wanted to just go back to wind demand. It sounds like you could potentially see a pickup in orders toward the end of this year. I was wondering if you do see that pickup, would you expect to be booking for orders to be delivered in 2025? Or is it more likely into 2026 at that point?

Speaker 4

Just based on what you're hearing from your customers, what might we expect here? And then based on what you're seeing now, what's the potential to increase your

Operator

The

Speaker 2

The answer I think is yes and yes. I have a lot of confidence that we will see capacity utilization in 2025 increase, maybe not for full capacity in the Abilene plant or the Manitowoc plant, but certainly beyond what we're producing at now. So the orders that we expect to start getting towards the end of 2024 and into 2025 will be produced in 'twenty five and into 'twenty six. As I mentioned earlier, the aftermarket or the repowering sector, which we're getting bigger into, especially in Manitowoc, those orders are more quick turn. So those orders will come in 'twenty four and be delivered in 'twenty 25.

Speaker 2

Towers have a little bit longer lead time, Eric, but I do believe I'm sorry, Justin, but I do believe we'll see both increased activity in 'twenty five through 'twenty six.

Speaker 4

Got it. Okay. Great. And then on Industrial Solutions, it looks like the EBITDA margin was 24% in Q1. So pretty meaningful improvements from what we've seen historically.

Speaker 4

I was wondering if you could just speak to what drove the improvements a bit more. Was this a function of mix in the quarter or the cost reduction efforts that you are undergoing here? And just trying to think through how should that trend going forward? Is it a sustainable improvement in the margin that we should be anticipating for that segment of your business?

Speaker 1

I think you'll have some sustainability of that margin profile, but I think Q1 was especially a favorable margin profile just because of the sales mix that they experienced. So I wouldn't point to that segment from a cost cutting perspective by any means, But I think a lot of it had to do with the very favorable mix of product that they sold, as well as the operating leverage that they've had. So $8,000,000 of revenue for that segment is the highest that we've seen out of them. So it really helped their bottom line really helped their margin to get as much out of that facility that they did.

Speaker 4

Okay, got it. And then just on the so Biden just increased tariffs with the Section 301. So it looks like the tariff rate on steel increasing to 25% this year from 0% to 7.5%. So just wondering how this might impact your business. I believe you primarily source steel domestically, though we could see potential price increase.

Speaker 4

So just if you could speak to any potential impact on your business here?

Speaker 2

So I think Justin, we don't anticipate significant impact on the business certainly in the, what I would call the short term to maybe the mid term. We do source virtually all of our tower steel from domestic sources and certainly the vast majority of our steel for heavy fabrications from domestic sources. So it could have an impact, but I don't expect it to have a major impact in the short term.

Speaker 4

Okay. And the increase in the price would be a pass through for you, I believe.

Speaker 2

Yes, it would be a pass through. I do believe there is available capacity of the steel of the plate plants that produce for wind turbine, OEMs in the United States and wind tower producers like Broadwind. So I think you'd have to fill up that capacity before you'd have any real price pressure.

Speaker 4

Okay, got you. All right, thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Justin. Thanks, Justin.

Operator

Our next question is from Martin Malloy with Johnson Rice. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Thank you for taking my questions. For the Q1, was there any impact from the advanced manufacturing tax credit on the EBITDA for the heavy fabrication segment?

Speaker 1

Yes, not unlike Q1 of last year, the AMP credit existed in both quarters. So outside of the volume impact, we were down approximately 50% in terms of the number of sections that we sold, but the margin profile was consistent between the two quarters.

Speaker 5

Okay, Okay. I appreciate that. And then just on the in terms of the potential acquisition front, and you've got the NOLs, your balance sheet is strong. Can you maybe talk about what you're seeing there in terms of the flow potential opportunities?

Speaker 2

Yeah, thanks Marty. We are seeing, we put that on pause a little bit for the last quarter of last year as we work through these cost reductions to make sure we had good cash generation, we're building up a war chest. We now feel like we're certainly there or nearly there. So I'm beginning to entertain more aggressively opportunities in M and A, primarily in precision manufacturing, precision machining, which is what we do in most of our plants, our Deering plant, our Heavy Fabrications plants. So the opportunity flow is increasing and we're able to I think more seriously address those as they come in.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. Thank you very much. I'll turn it back.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Marty. Thanks, Marty.

Operator

Our next question comes from Amit Dayal with H. C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your

Speaker 6

Just sticking with the wind, Eric, side of the story, is there any particular catalyst for the wind business to get going again that we should be sort of monitoring or is this just going to be just a general development across the industry that may take place later this year or early next year?

Speaker 2

Well, I think as I look at it, there are 3 things. There's interest rates, inflation and interconnection. And I think inflation has kind of been capped or at least it's under control. Interest rates and I follow the Fed like the rest of us do and it feels like that they're going to hold maybe a slight reduction. So I think that is offering some stability.

Speaker 2

And then you have and then I'm sorry, that stability is allowing some developers to pencil in some projects that maybe weren't fully profitable or provided enough return for them with a higher interest rate environment. But lastly is the interconnection piece, that's the 3rd eye and even just last Monday night in the Wall Street Journal, there was an article about Washington trying to break power grid log jams and that's the infrastructure, that's the whole infrastructure play that I mentioned earlier. So what's happened recently, again, I draw your attention to the Monday Wall Street Journal, FERC, which is the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, finalized a couple of new rules and a couple of new rules really are intended to increase permitting opportunities for critical projects in areas lacking transmission capacity and also they require utility companies to look to a multi decade trend. What does that mean? What that means is, as renewable projects are coming online in one geographical region versus another, there's always this risk of a weather related problem, but I think what this is intended to do is to encourage interconnections to be easier for these particular operators, so they can more easily invest in renewable projects without fear of any disruption.

Speaker 2

So that's kind of a long winded answer, but what I'm meaning to say is I think the federal government understands that there are some headwinds with regard to renewable projects in the way of permitting and they're trying to break down those headwinds, break down those barriers.

Speaker 6

Thank you for that. That's very helpful. And then on the revenue diversification front, it looks like you guys are making good progress over there. Is there room to grow within the existing non wind customers? Or are you looking to sort of continue expanding the roster of clients?

Speaker 6

I know you mentioned the opportunity in your comments earlier. Just trying to see how that diversification effort, what are the drivers that will lead to more balanced revenues?

Speaker 2

Well, we've made that's a great question. As I've mentioned before, in the northern plant, because we're not full up with tower capacity there, we have available capacity deploy to these other diverse markets, such as material handling as I mentioned earlier, defense, infrastructure. Within the Gearing segment, we've made some nice investments in some 5 axis machinery that can handle very precise machining for very large, relatively large products and we do have available capacity. As an example, some of those machines are operating at maybe 30% to 40% capacity now, that's intentional, because we invested in additional capacity in preparation for these new markets. So I don't think you need to look for broad ones to expand our brick and mortar footprint to be able to access these markets.

Speaker 2

It's more increased utilization for our available and our newly invested assets.

Speaker 6

Okay, understood. Yeah, that's all I have guys. I'll take my other questions offline. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thanks.

Operator

We have reached the end of the question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Eric Blashford for closing comments.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you everyone for your interest and your attention. We're pleased with our results in Q1 and look forward to coming back to you after Q2 to present our results then. Thank you everyone.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and we thank you for your participation.

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