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Earnings HistoryForecast Centerra Gold EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.14Consensus EPS $0.15Beat/MissMissed by -$0.01One Year Ago EPS-$0.24Centerra Gold Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$305.88 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACenterra Gold Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/14/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, May 14, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckInterim ReportEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Centerra Gold Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 14, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Centerra Gold First Quarter 2024 Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Operator00:00:27I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Wilkinson, Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at Centerra Gold. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:37Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Centerra Gold's Q1 2024 results conference call. Joining me on the call today are Paul Tomory, President and Chief Executive Officer Paul Charam, Chief Operating Officer and Ryan Snyder, Chief Financial Officer. Our release this morning details our first quarter 2024 results. It should be read in conjunction with our MD and A and financial statements, both of which can be found on SEDAR, EDGAR and on our website. Speaker 100:01:12All figures are in U. S. Dollars unless otherwise noted. Presentation slides accompanying this webcast are available on Centerra's website. Following the prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. Speaker 100:01:26Before we begin, I would like to caution everyone that certain statements made today may be forward looking and are subject to risks, which may cause our actual results to differ from those expressed or implied. Please refer to the cautionary statements included in the presentation as well as the risk factors set out in our annual information form. Certain measures we will discuss are non GAAP measures. Please refer to the description of non GAAP measures in our news release and MD and A issued this morning. I will now turn the call over to Paul Tomory. Speaker 200:02:00Thank you, Lisa, and good morning, everyone. We delivered another strong quarter of operating performance and we're on track to deliver our full year guidance. We continue to generate significant free cash flow and our cash balance increased by 35,000,000 dollars and the quarter at $648,000,000 We remain on track to meet our guidance in 2024. And by Milligan, we continue to advance the site wide optimization program, implementing tangible improvements in all areas of our operations. At Oksut, as previously disclosed, we expect to have elevated production in the first half of the year. Speaker 200:02:37Paul Shawan will speak to our operations in more detail later in the call. Last year, we published our strategic plan that was focused on maximizing the value for each asset in our portfolio. Since then, we have worked diligently to execute on that plan. Specifically, in the Q1, we announced an additional agreement with Royal Gold, which allows us to assess Mount Milligan's potential to be a multi decade operation. This was a key first step in our strategy to realize the full potential of this cornerstone asset in the top tier mining jurisdiction. Speaker 200:03:10At Oksut, since the mine restarted full operation in June of 2023, we have generated 3 quarters of very strong free cash flow as we work through the elevated levels of inventory. The mine remains a strategic asset in our portfolio, and we believe that it will continue to generate positive free cash flow through its remaining mine life. We are focused on maximizing the value of our molybdenum business unit assets comprised of the Thompson Creek and Endako mines and the Langaloth Metallurgical Facility. Concurrent with assessing all strategic options for these assets, we recently completed a commercial optimization plan at Langeloth geared at increasing profitability and evaluating its future potential. We are encouraged by the value opportunity at Langalot and we intend to provide additional details in conjunction with the Thompson Creek mine feasibility study, which we intend to release later this summer. Speaker 200:04:04Finally, I'd like to provide an update on our ESG initiatives. As we advance our climate and nature strategy, our focus has now shifted to conducting site level investigations to understand, at a high level, our material exposure to climate and nature risks and opportunities. We will use this information to support strategic decision making to identify feasible emission reduction pathways and initiatives. Meanwhile, we continue to maintain our commitment to our local communities by actively engaging in various partnerships, collaborations and community driven projects. This dedication is reflected in the positive impact observed, in particular, at the Arctic Mine, where approximately 5,000 students and young athletes benefited from the diverse sporting collaborations facilitated by our site team. Speaker 200:04:49These notable initiatives were implemented in cooperation with the local government and to support youth in sports. With that, I'll pass the call over to Paul Cheuvreux to discuss our operation performance. Speaker 300:05:02Thank you, Paul. I'd like to start with Mount Milligan's safety performance. The operating team has embraced the site wide optimization program, which starts with continuous improvement to our safety performance. They have been fully engaged, which is demonstrated through on-site in the field interactions focused on safety leadership. We have started 2024 with improved safety performance and are committed to our journey towards 0 harm. Speaker 300:05:29On Slide 5, we show operating highlights at Mount Milligan for the quarter. Mount Milligan started the year strong, producing over 48,000 ounces of gold and over £14,000,000 of copper in the Q1. Mount Milligan is on track for its full year production guidance of 180,000 to 200,000 ounces of gold and 55,000,000 to 65,000,000 pounds of copper. As we previously disclosed, both gold and copper production are expected to be evenly weighted throughout the year, but sales in the second half of twenty twenty four are expected to contribute approximately 55% of the annual sales. In the Q1, all in sustaining costs on a byproduct basis were $6.88 per ounce, 27% lower than last quarter due to lower sustaining capital spending and higher byproduct credits. Speaker 300:06:25We are starting to see benefits from the implementation of cost savings initiatives and production and productivity gains from the site optimization program. Looking ahead, we expect costs in the second quarter to be higher than the first quarter due to the lower percentage of annual sales in the first half of twenty twenty four, along with expected higher sustaining capital expenditures. Mount Milligan is still on track for its full year 2024 cost guidance ranges. After the agreement with Royal Gold was announced in February, we initiated a preliminary economic assessment at Mount Milligan to update the large resource to include all of the drilling completed to date, identify value added initiatives to the plant such as throughput and flow sheet modifications and optimize the mine plan. As a reminder, in addition to the 250,000,000 tons of reserves at Mount Milligan, we also have identified 260,000,000 tonnes of resources, most of which have been classified as indicated, as well as significant additional drilled inventory, which has not been incorporated into resources yet. Speaker 300:07:38We intend to incorporate these additional resources into an optimized mine plan to support a PEA. Our work on the study is progressing, and we expect to complete the PEA to demonstrate an operating concept in the first half of twenty twenty five. During the Q1, we have continued with our progress on the site wide optimization program at Mount Milligan that was initially launched last year. This program has been focused on analytic assessment of occupational health and safety as well as improvements in the mine and plant operations. Notable achievements in the Q1 were observed in key areas of the operation that provided tangible results. Speaker 300:08:26A few highlights include an improved safety record, including an increase in proactive safety interactions, fewer incidents and a much lower severity rate when compared to the same period last year an increase in the mining fleet mechanical availability, utilization and overall productivity of the load haul cycle. These strategies have contributed to higher tonnes mined compared to the same period last year, while simultaneously lowering the unit operating costs. Increased mill throughput per operating day due to consistent ore supply, renewed operating strategy of the flotation circuit and equipment modifications installed during the plant shutdown. And finally, the plant has implemented strategies focused on increasing copper and gold recoveries. This includes real time adjustments to the flotation circuit for improved stabilization with optimal grind sizing and throughput, producing a higher volume of gold copper concentrate with lower copper grades, as well as ore blending initiatives to improve the processing of elevated pyrite bearing, high grade gold, low grade copper ore. Speaker 300:09:46Now moving on to Ertsut. I would like to commend the site team for achieving 3,000,000 hours without a lost time injury in January. Our top priority is the health and safety of our workers, and we remain committed to our journey towards 0 harm. On Slide 9, you can see the 1st quarter operating highlights at our suit, which had another quarter of strong operating performance. First quarter production was over 63,000 ounces and we are on track to achieve our full year production guidance with approximately 60% of the annual production weighted towards the first half of the year. Speaker 300:10:27This quarter, all in sustaining costs on a byproduct basis were $8.23 per ounce, which is higher compared to the last quarter due to increased mining and hauling costs and higher weighted average cost per ounce in the remaining inventory as well as lower gold production and sales. Irksut is on track to achieve its cost guidance ranges for the full year 2024. I'll now pass it on to Ryan to walk through our financial highlights for the quarter. Speaker 400:11:01Thanks, Paul. Slide 10 details our Q1 financial results. 1st quarter net earnings were $66,000,000 or $0.31 per share. There were several adjusting items in the quarter, including $25,000,000 of reclamation provision revaluation recovery and $9,000,000 of unrealized foreign currency exchange gains, among other things. As a result of these one time items, adjusted net earnings in the Q1 were $31,000,000 or $0.15 per share. Speaker 400:11:31In the Q1, sales were 104,313 ounces of gold and £15,600,000 of copper. The average realized price was $18.41 per ounce of gold $3.12 per pound of copper, both of these incorporate the existing streaming arrangements at Mount Milligan. At the molybdenum business unit, approximately £2,900,000 of molybdenum was sold in the Q1 at the Langlois facility. This annualized throughput rate of approximately £12,000,000 represents utilization of approximately 30% of the facility's capacity. Consolidated all in sustaining costs on a byproduct basis for the Q1 were $8.59 per ounce and we remain on track to meet our full year guidance for all production and unit cost metrics. Speaker 400:12:22In the Q1 of 2024, additions to property, plant and equipment were $15,000,000 and total capital expenditures were 17,000,000 dollars Sustaining capital spending at Mount Milligan was relatively low in the Q1, but we maintain our full year guidance and expect sustaining capital expenditures at Mount Milligan to increase throughout the year. Slide 11 shows our financial highlights for the quarter. In the Q1, we continued to generate strong free cash flow. Cash provided by operating activities was $99,000,000 in the quarter and free cash flow was 81,000,000 In the Q1, Oksut generated $101,000,000 in cash from operations and $90,000,000 in free cash flow. Now Milligan generated $30,000,000 of cash from operations and $24,000,000 of free cash flow. Speaker 400:13:10The molybdenum business unit as a whole used $7,000,000 of cash from operations and had a free cash flow deficit of $7,000,000 this quarter. This related primarily to activities at the Thompson Creek mine as land loss operating cash flows were slightly positive for the quarter. Interest income was $8,000,000 in the 1st quarter, which primarily includes interest on bank term deposits. We continue to generate significant interest income on our cash balance. In the Q1, our cash balance grew by $35,000,000 to $648,000,000 despite making the $24,500,000 payment related to the additional agreement with Royal Gold. Speaker 400:13:48This provides us with total liquidity of over $1,000,000,000 and positions us well to execute on our strategic plan and deliver shareholder value. Given our strong financial position, the Board declared a quarterly dividend of $0.07 per share. We were active on share buybacks in late February and through March, repurchasing 1,800,000 shares for total consideration of $10,000,000 in the Q1. Returning capital to shareholders remains a key pillar in our capital allocation strategy and we expect to remain active on the share buybacks dependent on market conditions. Looking ahead, the annual Turkish royalty payment relating to 2023 performance and the income tax payments related to the Q4 of 2023 and Q1 of 2024 will be made in the Q2 of this year. Speaker 400:14:36We expect these payments to be approximately 105,000,000 dollars As a result, our cash flow in the Q2 of 2024 will be impacted by these routine statutory payments. As discussed by Paul Charron earlier, Oksut continues to deliver strong operational results and we are on track to achieve our full year production guidance. Ignoring the timing impacts related to working capital movements, we expect strong cash flow from operations before working capital at Oksut in all quarters this year. I'll pass it back to Paul for some closing remarks. Speaker 200:15:09Thanks, Ryan. Our site teams have worked diligently to deliver strong performance to start the year. Our focus remains on delivering safe and consistent operating results each quarter and to maximize the value of each asset in the portfolio. We expect you to continue to deliver our strategic plan that will drive future value and growth for Centerra over the remainder of 2024 and beyond. With that operator, I'll open the call to questions. Operator00:15:35Thank you. The first question comes from Raj Ray with BMO. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:15:57Thank you, operator. Good morning, Paul and team. My first question is on Mount Milligan Optimization initiative that you've been working on. It seems like compared to last year, it's almost a 10% to 15% cost decrease in terms of part time costs from both mining and processing. Can you comment on how sustainable this level of costs are? Speaker 500:16:23And do you expect to see further potential reduction in your unit costs and non Moly? And then secondly, with respect to the Moly business unit, can you comment on I know you're working on a feasibility study. Are you also running a strategic process at this point? Or will you wait for the feasibility study results to be out before you run the process? Speaker 200:16:46Hi, Raj. I'll address the molybdenum question first, and then I'll pass it to Paul for the amount of million cost point. So with the molybdenum business unit, we have a threefold program right now. Number 1 is advancing the feasibility study and we're on track to deliver that towards the end of the year. The second, and this was in the prepared remarks, is we've completed the commercial optimization program at Langaloth that helped us establish a framework for contracts this year that improves the potential profitability of the roaster. Speaker 200:17:18And that's in preparation for the ramp up associated with a potential notice to proceed on the mine. And third, as you pointed out, we continue to run a strategic process and that is advancing well. But as you could appreciate, a lot of that is tied to the results of the feasibility study and more detail being provided on both the mine itself and the operating model for Langelof, which we intend to do later this summer. So just to recap, 3 fold initiatives. 1 is completing the technical studies on the mine reopening plan, continue to work on commercial optimization strategy at Langloft, and third is continue to advance the strategic process. Speaker 200:17:59So unless you have a follow-up on that, I'll hand it over to Paul on the Milligan cost question. Speaker 300:18:08Okay. Thanks, Raj. Yes, I just in summary, we're very, very pleased with the progress of the what we're calling the M plus program to put Mount Milligan into the upper quartile of world class assets and that starts with the operations. And we're seeing gains across the board, particularly in safety. The team is fully engaged and nothing really happens unless we work with that. Speaker 300:18:35In terms of hardcore cost savings, yes, probably a reasonable number is around 10%. I'm cautious with actually saying a number just because it's an ongoing continuous improvement process. We've more or less completed wave 1, we're in wave 2 now. There's a litany of continuous improvement initiatives that we're working on the mine and the plant in all facets of the load haul productivity cycle, the operating costs, looking at some of our supply chain recovery, reagent consumption, overall consumables with the steel, just on and on. So this is an ongoing process. Speaker 300:19:14If you take a snapshot, that's a reasonable estimate on where we're at, but we're continuing to focus long term. Speaker 500:19:24Paul, just to follow-up on the process optimization. Is there a target that you have with respect to where you expect to see recovery gold and copper recovery go to based on the optimization initiatives you guys are working on? Speaker 300:19:42There is, Raj, but it needs to be integrated with throughput gains to optimize that trade off, the grind size, the overall recovery, some of the changes with the ore body itself. We have a GeoMet model we're working through. And so it is targets, but it's on a curve. So it's not just one hard number. And we are seeing significant gains. Speaker 300:20:04The other major aspect is we can improve our overall recovery by optimizing our sales. If we have lower copper concentrate, we actually can then improve our overall recovery. So, there are definite targets, but it's not just one number. Speaker 200:20:23Rod, I'll add a point here. The overall program is advancing. We're very encouraged by the results and I'd say that they're probably ahead of where we were expecting. And a lot of the gain is related to recovery, particularly understanding the ore body better and adjusting performance in the process plant on dosing and various times and set points to ensure that we maximize throughput and recovery. We're very happy with the results to date and we expect to continue to deliver gains there. Speaker 200:20:56But as Paul said, it's a very dynamic system. And so there aren't individual pinpoint answers on these questions. Speaker 500:21:05Okay, that's good. Thanks, Paul. Operator00:21:11The next question comes from Mike Parkin with National Bank. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:21:17Hi, guys. Congrats on the solid Q1. Just following up on the Lang Law commercial optimization plan, what were some of the key kind of wins there that you're focusing on? Is that something that's it's booked in place or these are some improvements that we can expect to see going forward? Speaker 200:21:42So the commercial model at Langoloft, just to remind, is we purchase 3rd party concentrates and then we sell final molybdenum product principally to steel producers. We did a comprehensive review of how we enter into those contracts and established minimum criteria for contract to be acceptable. So all new contracts that we awarded this year conform to that minimum acceptable framework that we have. And the contracts we have now in 2024 set the basis for the profitability model we have at Langeland. So in other words, the contracts we've awarded this year are commercially more attractive than they had been in the past because we adhere to this minimum criteria. Speaker 200:22:29And given those contracts we now have in place with the roaster running at approximately 1 third of ultimate capacity, By grossing that number up to include the feed that will come from Thompson Creek as well as further third party material, we are very confident in the profitability of the roaster. I should add that the profitability of the roaster is not so dependent on molybdenum price. We basically clip a dollar per pound that is largely insulated from the prevailing spot price. So just to recap, we have a new framework for minimum acceptable contracts. We have implemented those. Speaker 200:23:11We are live on those contracts this year. And when grossed up to full capacity, yield a very profitable model as a roaster. Speaker 600:23:22So if I go back to 2023, there was a big working capital hit that's less likely to be an event going forward like that was all kind of dependent on just how metal prices shifted. You've accrued that working capital through the latter part of 2023. Will this new contract minimize that kind of risk of happening? Speaker 200:23:47We can't insulate fully against working capital movements, because the working capital injection or release is driven by the molybdenum price associated with both the purchase of the concentrate contract and the sale of the final molybdenum product. We don't take very much price risk because the quotation periods are pretty closely aligned, but we do take working capital risk. So if we're buying a concentrate, which has a high molybdenum price associated with it and then selling lower price, then we have that working capital movement. The reason there hasn't been a working capital movement over the last several months and in any case not a substantial one is that molybdenum has been roughly flat at $20 a pound. We will have working capital movements when there is a mismatch between the price established with the concentrate purchase and that associated with the sale of the final product. Speaker 200:24:41But those are transitory events. And as we saw last year, we had a big working capital movement into the roaster and then it was in large part released through the rest of the year. Now, as we ramp up capacity utilization in the roaster and if we do green light the Thompson Creek plan, a large portion of feed going to Langloft will be our own concentrate from Thompson Creek with which there will be no working capital associated. So as we ramp up utilization on the roaster on a to pound basis, the working capital requirements will be lessened though in aggregate terms they will still be increasing. Speaker 600:25:21Okay. No, that's great color. Thanks, Paul. Just on the timing of sales versus production at Mount Nilly, what is it that given that second half is out there, what is it that you know today that determines that your sales versus your production weighting is mismatched a bit? Is it just simply the no win kind of shipment dates of the future freight? Speaker 400:25:57Yes. Hi, there. It is predominantly that. Our last shipment of the Q1 was right at the end of the quarter. And the way the boats are lining up, we'll likely have a shipment in early July instead of the end of June. Speaker 400:26:10And so when we look at our shipping schedule and everything tied to our concentrate and the number of boats you have, you have extra boats in Q3 and Q4, but not really in Q2. So you will see a bit of a step down in gold and copper sales. I think it's possible the shipment timing can move around a little bit, but what we're seeing right now is a slightly lower sales in Q2 and then stepping up in Q3 and Q4. But again, with pretty flat production quarter by quarter throughout the year. So it really is just a timing thing between June July. Speaker 600:26:42Okay. And then just sticking with Mount Milligan, your TCRCs and refining costs have generally shown to be pretty flat. Is that something you're expecting to continue going forward like on a U. S. Dollar per pound or per ton basis? Speaker 600:27:01You're sitting in around $0.45 for the last few quarters, fairly only a penny or 2 difference quarter to quarter. Is that something we could expect to go sustain going forward or some of this optimization might make the concentrate TCRCs actually drop off a bit? Speaker 400:27:24Yes. I think you can view them as fairly flat. We have a mix of contracts. Some are long term trader smelter contracts, some are trader contracts that are more based on spot TCRCs. Spot TCRCs for copper are very low these days and negative in some cases. Speaker 400:27:39But when you average that with our benchmark prices on our longer term contracts, it's averaging out to about that level. I think when we look at concentrate in general, and one of the points that Paul made, if we're able to sell a lower grade coppercon, we may have more concentrate in total. And that may increase total TCRCs that we pay if we're shipping more concentrate, but it will be more than offset with increased recoveries and metal gains and we've done that analysis. So I think through this year, looking at it as about flat quarter over quarter makes sense, but there may be some scenario where that moves up a bit in the future to get the full benefit of recoveries on the loan? Speaker 500:28:17This is Speaker 200:28:18an important point, Mike, that the initiative that Paul referenced and Brian elaborated on here is we have been trialing shipment of lower copper content in the concentrate, which drives better recovery. And there will be costs associated with that higher TCRCs, logistics and warehousing. But the point is we've done these trials and we've seen improved recoveries in both copper Speaker 600:28:46and gold. Okay. So it's a little bit of Speaker 200:28:48pain for a lot more gain. That's right. That's right. Speaker 600:28:53Okay, great. Thanks very much guys. Speaker 200:28:56Thanks, Operator00:29:03The next question comes from Anita Soni with CIBC. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:29:09Good morning, Paul and Paul. A couple of questions. I think Mike has asked most of mine, but I just wanted to get an idea of how the CapEx plays out at both assets. There was a little bit of underspend this quarter, but I just want to understand, specifically at Mount Milligan, like where is the capital spend? Would it be in the summertime in Q2 and Q3 and then tapers off in Q4? Speaker 700:29:33Or how does it work? Speaker 400:29:35Yes. I'll speak for Saineta and then Paul can chime in if he wants to elaborate. It's going to be quite heavy in Q2 and Q3. So a lot of the Milligan CapEx is focused on the tailing storage facility, required lifts and activity there this year as well as a pumping station for water. You couldn't really do some of those things in Q1. Speaker 400:29:56I would say the vast majority of the CapEx at Mount Milligan is planned for spring and summer, but then Q4 trailing off a little bit. So, bottling the majority of milling in CapEx, say 75% of the year throughout the 2 middle quarters. Oksut is a little more even. Q1 is pretty representative of what you'll see. There'll be little movements quarter over quarter, but that one's more even throughout the year. Speaker 700:30:25And then the last one was all of the care and maintenance and malignant business unit capital. It was I can't remember exactly where it was, but there was some significant under spend in some of that. Speaker 400:30:38Yes. So I think if we look at the molybdenum business unit, the one capital item at Wangloff is the asset plant shutdown, which is happening in Q2. It's happening right now. When we look at Thompson Creek, just a reminder, we've only guided the first half of the year. They did under spend a little bit in Q1. Speaker 400:30:55We still expect their first half spending to be similar to what we have out there guidance wise. And then we will re guide the second half of the year when we put out the results of the feasibility study. So I don't think we're expecting big changes on Thompson Creek from what's out there through the first half. Operator00:31:20This concludes today's the question and answer session and today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Centerra Gold First Quarter 2024 Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Operator00:00:27I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Wilkinson, Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at Centerra Gold. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:37Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Centerra Gold's Q1 2024 results conference call. Joining me on the call today are Paul Tomory, President and Chief Executive Officer Paul Charam, Chief Operating Officer and Ryan Snyder, Chief Financial Officer. Our release this morning details our first quarter 2024 results. It should be read in conjunction with our MD and A and financial statements, both of which can be found on SEDAR, EDGAR and on our website. Speaker 100:01:12All figures are in U. S. Dollars unless otherwise noted. Presentation slides accompanying this webcast are available on Centerra's website. Following the prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. Speaker 100:01:26Before we begin, I would like to caution everyone that certain statements made today may be forward looking and are subject to risks, which may cause our actual results to differ from those expressed or implied. Please refer to the cautionary statements included in the presentation as well as the risk factors set out in our annual information form. Certain measures we will discuss are non GAAP measures. Please refer to the description of non GAAP measures in our news release and MD and A issued this morning. I will now turn the call over to Paul Tomory. Speaker 200:02:00Thank you, Lisa, and good morning, everyone. We delivered another strong quarter of operating performance and we're on track to deliver our full year guidance. We continue to generate significant free cash flow and our cash balance increased by 35,000,000 dollars and the quarter at $648,000,000 We remain on track to meet our guidance in 2024. And by Milligan, we continue to advance the site wide optimization program, implementing tangible improvements in all areas of our operations. At Oksut, as previously disclosed, we expect to have elevated production in the first half of the year. Speaker 200:02:37Paul Shawan will speak to our operations in more detail later in the call. Last year, we published our strategic plan that was focused on maximizing the value for each asset in our portfolio. Since then, we have worked diligently to execute on that plan. Specifically, in the Q1, we announced an additional agreement with Royal Gold, which allows us to assess Mount Milligan's potential to be a multi decade operation. This was a key first step in our strategy to realize the full potential of this cornerstone asset in the top tier mining jurisdiction. Speaker 200:03:10At Oksut, since the mine restarted full operation in June of 2023, we have generated 3 quarters of very strong free cash flow as we work through the elevated levels of inventory. The mine remains a strategic asset in our portfolio, and we believe that it will continue to generate positive free cash flow through its remaining mine life. We are focused on maximizing the value of our molybdenum business unit assets comprised of the Thompson Creek and Endako mines and the Langaloth Metallurgical Facility. Concurrent with assessing all strategic options for these assets, we recently completed a commercial optimization plan at Langeloth geared at increasing profitability and evaluating its future potential. We are encouraged by the value opportunity at Langalot and we intend to provide additional details in conjunction with the Thompson Creek mine feasibility study, which we intend to release later this summer. Speaker 200:04:04Finally, I'd like to provide an update on our ESG initiatives. As we advance our climate and nature strategy, our focus has now shifted to conducting site level investigations to understand, at a high level, our material exposure to climate and nature risks and opportunities. We will use this information to support strategic decision making to identify feasible emission reduction pathways and initiatives. Meanwhile, we continue to maintain our commitment to our local communities by actively engaging in various partnerships, collaborations and community driven projects. This dedication is reflected in the positive impact observed, in particular, at the Arctic Mine, where approximately 5,000 students and young athletes benefited from the diverse sporting collaborations facilitated by our site team. Speaker 200:04:49These notable initiatives were implemented in cooperation with the local government and to support youth in sports. With that, I'll pass the call over to Paul Cheuvreux to discuss our operation performance. Speaker 300:05:02Thank you, Paul. I'd like to start with Mount Milligan's safety performance. The operating team has embraced the site wide optimization program, which starts with continuous improvement to our safety performance. They have been fully engaged, which is demonstrated through on-site in the field interactions focused on safety leadership. We have started 2024 with improved safety performance and are committed to our journey towards 0 harm. Speaker 300:05:29On Slide 5, we show operating highlights at Mount Milligan for the quarter. Mount Milligan started the year strong, producing over 48,000 ounces of gold and over £14,000,000 of copper in the Q1. Mount Milligan is on track for its full year production guidance of 180,000 to 200,000 ounces of gold and 55,000,000 to 65,000,000 pounds of copper. As we previously disclosed, both gold and copper production are expected to be evenly weighted throughout the year, but sales in the second half of twenty twenty four are expected to contribute approximately 55% of the annual sales. In the Q1, all in sustaining costs on a byproduct basis were $6.88 per ounce, 27% lower than last quarter due to lower sustaining capital spending and higher byproduct credits. Speaker 300:06:25We are starting to see benefits from the implementation of cost savings initiatives and production and productivity gains from the site optimization program. Looking ahead, we expect costs in the second quarter to be higher than the first quarter due to the lower percentage of annual sales in the first half of twenty twenty four, along with expected higher sustaining capital expenditures. Mount Milligan is still on track for its full year 2024 cost guidance ranges. After the agreement with Royal Gold was announced in February, we initiated a preliminary economic assessment at Mount Milligan to update the large resource to include all of the drilling completed to date, identify value added initiatives to the plant such as throughput and flow sheet modifications and optimize the mine plan. As a reminder, in addition to the 250,000,000 tons of reserves at Mount Milligan, we also have identified 260,000,000 tonnes of resources, most of which have been classified as indicated, as well as significant additional drilled inventory, which has not been incorporated into resources yet. Speaker 300:07:38We intend to incorporate these additional resources into an optimized mine plan to support a PEA. Our work on the study is progressing, and we expect to complete the PEA to demonstrate an operating concept in the first half of twenty twenty five. During the Q1, we have continued with our progress on the site wide optimization program at Mount Milligan that was initially launched last year. This program has been focused on analytic assessment of occupational health and safety as well as improvements in the mine and plant operations. Notable achievements in the Q1 were observed in key areas of the operation that provided tangible results. Speaker 300:08:26A few highlights include an improved safety record, including an increase in proactive safety interactions, fewer incidents and a much lower severity rate when compared to the same period last year an increase in the mining fleet mechanical availability, utilization and overall productivity of the load haul cycle. These strategies have contributed to higher tonnes mined compared to the same period last year, while simultaneously lowering the unit operating costs. Increased mill throughput per operating day due to consistent ore supply, renewed operating strategy of the flotation circuit and equipment modifications installed during the plant shutdown. And finally, the plant has implemented strategies focused on increasing copper and gold recoveries. This includes real time adjustments to the flotation circuit for improved stabilization with optimal grind sizing and throughput, producing a higher volume of gold copper concentrate with lower copper grades, as well as ore blending initiatives to improve the processing of elevated pyrite bearing, high grade gold, low grade copper ore. Speaker 300:09:46Now moving on to Ertsut. I would like to commend the site team for achieving 3,000,000 hours without a lost time injury in January. Our top priority is the health and safety of our workers, and we remain committed to our journey towards 0 harm. On Slide 9, you can see the 1st quarter operating highlights at our suit, which had another quarter of strong operating performance. First quarter production was over 63,000 ounces and we are on track to achieve our full year production guidance with approximately 60% of the annual production weighted towards the first half of the year. Speaker 300:10:27This quarter, all in sustaining costs on a byproduct basis were $8.23 per ounce, which is higher compared to the last quarter due to increased mining and hauling costs and higher weighted average cost per ounce in the remaining inventory as well as lower gold production and sales. Irksut is on track to achieve its cost guidance ranges for the full year 2024. I'll now pass it on to Ryan to walk through our financial highlights for the quarter. Speaker 400:11:01Thanks, Paul. Slide 10 details our Q1 financial results. 1st quarter net earnings were $66,000,000 or $0.31 per share. There were several adjusting items in the quarter, including $25,000,000 of reclamation provision revaluation recovery and $9,000,000 of unrealized foreign currency exchange gains, among other things. As a result of these one time items, adjusted net earnings in the Q1 were $31,000,000 or $0.15 per share. Speaker 400:11:31In the Q1, sales were 104,313 ounces of gold and £15,600,000 of copper. The average realized price was $18.41 per ounce of gold $3.12 per pound of copper, both of these incorporate the existing streaming arrangements at Mount Milligan. At the molybdenum business unit, approximately £2,900,000 of molybdenum was sold in the Q1 at the Langlois facility. This annualized throughput rate of approximately £12,000,000 represents utilization of approximately 30% of the facility's capacity. Consolidated all in sustaining costs on a byproduct basis for the Q1 were $8.59 per ounce and we remain on track to meet our full year guidance for all production and unit cost metrics. Speaker 400:12:22In the Q1 of 2024, additions to property, plant and equipment were $15,000,000 and total capital expenditures were 17,000,000 dollars Sustaining capital spending at Mount Milligan was relatively low in the Q1, but we maintain our full year guidance and expect sustaining capital expenditures at Mount Milligan to increase throughout the year. Slide 11 shows our financial highlights for the quarter. In the Q1, we continued to generate strong free cash flow. Cash provided by operating activities was $99,000,000 in the quarter and free cash flow was 81,000,000 In the Q1, Oksut generated $101,000,000 in cash from operations and $90,000,000 in free cash flow. Now Milligan generated $30,000,000 of cash from operations and $24,000,000 of free cash flow. Speaker 400:13:10The molybdenum business unit as a whole used $7,000,000 of cash from operations and had a free cash flow deficit of $7,000,000 this quarter. This related primarily to activities at the Thompson Creek mine as land loss operating cash flows were slightly positive for the quarter. Interest income was $8,000,000 in the 1st quarter, which primarily includes interest on bank term deposits. We continue to generate significant interest income on our cash balance. In the Q1, our cash balance grew by $35,000,000 to $648,000,000 despite making the $24,500,000 payment related to the additional agreement with Royal Gold. Speaker 400:13:48This provides us with total liquidity of over $1,000,000,000 and positions us well to execute on our strategic plan and deliver shareholder value. Given our strong financial position, the Board declared a quarterly dividend of $0.07 per share. We were active on share buybacks in late February and through March, repurchasing 1,800,000 shares for total consideration of $10,000,000 in the Q1. Returning capital to shareholders remains a key pillar in our capital allocation strategy and we expect to remain active on the share buybacks dependent on market conditions. Looking ahead, the annual Turkish royalty payment relating to 2023 performance and the income tax payments related to the Q4 of 2023 and Q1 of 2024 will be made in the Q2 of this year. Speaker 400:14:36We expect these payments to be approximately 105,000,000 dollars As a result, our cash flow in the Q2 of 2024 will be impacted by these routine statutory payments. As discussed by Paul Charron earlier, Oksut continues to deliver strong operational results and we are on track to achieve our full year production guidance. Ignoring the timing impacts related to working capital movements, we expect strong cash flow from operations before working capital at Oksut in all quarters this year. I'll pass it back to Paul for some closing remarks. Speaker 200:15:09Thanks, Ryan. Our site teams have worked diligently to deliver strong performance to start the year. Our focus remains on delivering safe and consistent operating results each quarter and to maximize the value of each asset in the portfolio. We expect you to continue to deliver our strategic plan that will drive future value and growth for Centerra over the remainder of 2024 and beyond. With that operator, I'll open the call to questions. Operator00:15:35Thank you. The first question comes from Raj Ray with BMO. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:15:57Thank you, operator. Good morning, Paul and team. My first question is on Mount Milligan Optimization initiative that you've been working on. It seems like compared to last year, it's almost a 10% to 15% cost decrease in terms of part time costs from both mining and processing. Can you comment on how sustainable this level of costs are? Speaker 500:16:23And do you expect to see further potential reduction in your unit costs and non Moly? And then secondly, with respect to the Moly business unit, can you comment on I know you're working on a feasibility study. Are you also running a strategic process at this point? Or will you wait for the feasibility study results to be out before you run the process? Speaker 200:16:46Hi, Raj. I'll address the molybdenum question first, and then I'll pass it to Paul for the amount of million cost point. So with the molybdenum business unit, we have a threefold program right now. Number 1 is advancing the feasibility study and we're on track to deliver that towards the end of the year. The second, and this was in the prepared remarks, is we've completed the commercial optimization program at Langaloth that helped us establish a framework for contracts this year that improves the potential profitability of the roaster. Speaker 200:17:18And that's in preparation for the ramp up associated with a potential notice to proceed on the mine. And third, as you pointed out, we continue to run a strategic process and that is advancing well. But as you could appreciate, a lot of that is tied to the results of the feasibility study and more detail being provided on both the mine itself and the operating model for Langelof, which we intend to do later this summer. So just to recap, 3 fold initiatives. 1 is completing the technical studies on the mine reopening plan, continue to work on commercial optimization strategy at Langloft, and third is continue to advance the strategic process. Speaker 200:17:59So unless you have a follow-up on that, I'll hand it over to Paul on the Milligan cost question. Speaker 300:18:08Okay. Thanks, Raj. Yes, I just in summary, we're very, very pleased with the progress of the what we're calling the M plus program to put Mount Milligan into the upper quartile of world class assets and that starts with the operations. And we're seeing gains across the board, particularly in safety. The team is fully engaged and nothing really happens unless we work with that. Speaker 300:18:35In terms of hardcore cost savings, yes, probably a reasonable number is around 10%. I'm cautious with actually saying a number just because it's an ongoing continuous improvement process. We've more or less completed wave 1, we're in wave 2 now. There's a litany of continuous improvement initiatives that we're working on the mine and the plant in all facets of the load haul productivity cycle, the operating costs, looking at some of our supply chain recovery, reagent consumption, overall consumables with the steel, just on and on. So this is an ongoing process. Speaker 300:19:14If you take a snapshot, that's a reasonable estimate on where we're at, but we're continuing to focus long term. Speaker 500:19:24Paul, just to follow-up on the process optimization. Is there a target that you have with respect to where you expect to see recovery gold and copper recovery go to based on the optimization initiatives you guys are working on? Speaker 300:19:42There is, Raj, but it needs to be integrated with throughput gains to optimize that trade off, the grind size, the overall recovery, some of the changes with the ore body itself. We have a GeoMet model we're working through. And so it is targets, but it's on a curve. So it's not just one hard number. And we are seeing significant gains. Speaker 300:20:04The other major aspect is we can improve our overall recovery by optimizing our sales. If we have lower copper concentrate, we actually can then improve our overall recovery. So, there are definite targets, but it's not just one number. Speaker 200:20:23Rod, I'll add a point here. The overall program is advancing. We're very encouraged by the results and I'd say that they're probably ahead of where we were expecting. And a lot of the gain is related to recovery, particularly understanding the ore body better and adjusting performance in the process plant on dosing and various times and set points to ensure that we maximize throughput and recovery. We're very happy with the results to date and we expect to continue to deliver gains there. Speaker 200:20:56But as Paul said, it's a very dynamic system. And so there aren't individual pinpoint answers on these questions. Speaker 500:21:05Okay, that's good. Thanks, Paul. Operator00:21:11The next question comes from Mike Parkin with National Bank. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:21:17Hi, guys. Congrats on the solid Q1. Just following up on the Lang Law commercial optimization plan, what were some of the key kind of wins there that you're focusing on? Is that something that's it's booked in place or these are some improvements that we can expect to see going forward? Speaker 200:21:42So the commercial model at Langoloft, just to remind, is we purchase 3rd party concentrates and then we sell final molybdenum product principally to steel producers. We did a comprehensive review of how we enter into those contracts and established minimum criteria for contract to be acceptable. So all new contracts that we awarded this year conform to that minimum acceptable framework that we have. And the contracts we have now in 2024 set the basis for the profitability model we have at Langeland. So in other words, the contracts we've awarded this year are commercially more attractive than they had been in the past because we adhere to this minimum criteria. Speaker 200:22:29And given those contracts we now have in place with the roaster running at approximately 1 third of ultimate capacity, By grossing that number up to include the feed that will come from Thompson Creek as well as further third party material, we are very confident in the profitability of the roaster. I should add that the profitability of the roaster is not so dependent on molybdenum price. We basically clip a dollar per pound that is largely insulated from the prevailing spot price. So just to recap, we have a new framework for minimum acceptable contracts. We have implemented those. Speaker 200:23:11We are live on those contracts this year. And when grossed up to full capacity, yield a very profitable model as a roaster. Speaker 600:23:22So if I go back to 2023, there was a big working capital hit that's less likely to be an event going forward like that was all kind of dependent on just how metal prices shifted. You've accrued that working capital through the latter part of 2023. Will this new contract minimize that kind of risk of happening? Speaker 200:23:47We can't insulate fully against working capital movements, because the working capital injection or release is driven by the molybdenum price associated with both the purchase of the concentrate contract and the sale of the final molybdenum product. We don't take very much price risk because the quotation periods are pretty closely aligned, but we do take working capital risk. So if we're buying a concentrate, which has a high molybdenum price associated with it and then selling lower price, then we have that working capital movement. The reason there hasn't been a working capital movement over the last several months and in any case not a substantial one is that molybdenum has been roughly flat at $20 a pound. We will have working capital movements when there is a mismatch between the price established with the concentrate purchase and that associated with the sale of the final product. Speaker 200:24:41But those are transitory events. And as we saw last year, we had a big working capital movement into the roaster and then it was in large part released through the rest of the year. Now, as we ramp up capacity utilization in the roaster and if we do green light the Thompson Creek plan, a large portion of feed going to Langloft will be our own concentrate from Thompson Creek with which there will be no working capital associated. So as we ramp up utilization on the roaster on a to pound basis, the working capital requirements will be lessened though in aggregate terms they will still be increasing. Speaker 600:25:21Okay. No, that's great color. Thanks, Paul. Just on the timing of sales versus production at Mount Nilly, what is it that given that second half is out there, what is it that you know today that determines that your sales versus your production weighting is mismatched a bit? Is it just simply the no win kind of shipment dates of the future freight? Speaker 400:25:57Yes. Hi, there. It is predominantly that. Our last shipment of the Q1 was right at the end of the quarter. And the way the boats are lining up, we'll likely have a shipment in early July instead of the end of June. Speaker 400:26:10And so when we look at our shipping schedule and everything tied to our concentrate and the number of boats you have, you have extra boats in Q3 and Q4, but not really in Q2. So you will see a bit of a step down in gold and copper sales. I think it's possible the shipment timing can move around a little bit, but what we're seeing right now is a slightly lower sales in Q2 and then stepping up in Q3 and Q4. But again, with pretty flat production quarter by quarter throughout the year. So it really is just a timing thing between June July. Speaker 600:26:42Okay. And then just sticking with Mount Milligan, your TCRCs and refining costs have generally shown to be pretty flat. Is that something you're expecting to continue going forward like on a U. S. Dollar per pound or per ton basis? Speaker 600:27:01You're sitting in around $0.45 for the last few quarters, fairly only a penny or 2 difference quarter to quarter. Is that something we could expect to go sustain going forward or some of this optimization might make the concentrate TCRCs actually drop off a bit? Speaker 400:27:24Yes. I think you can view them as fairly flat. We have a mix of contracts. Some are long term trader smelter contracts, some are trader contracts that are more based on spot TCRCs. Spot TCRCs for copper are very low these days and negative in some cases. Speaker 400:27:39But when you average that with our benchmark prices on our longer term contracts, it's averaging out to about that level. I think when we look at concentrate in general, and one of the points that Paul made, if we're able to sell a lower grade coppercon, we may have more concentrate in total. And that may increase total TCRCs that we pay if we're shipping more concentrate, but it will be more than offset with increased recoveries and metal gains and we've done that analysis. So I think through this year, looking at it as about flat quarter over quarter makes sense, but there may be some scenario where that moves up a bit in the future to get the full benefit of recoveries on the loan? Speaker 500:28:17This is Speaker 200:28:18an important point, Mike, that the initiative that Paul referenced and Brian elaborated on here is we have been trialing shipment of lower copper content in the concentrate, which drives better recovery. And there will be costs associated with that higher TCRCs, logistics and warehousing. But the point is we've done these trials and we've seen improved recoveries in both copper Speaker 600:28:46and gold. Okay. So it's a little bit of Speaker 200:28:48pain for a lot more gain. That's right. That's right. Speaker 600:28:53Okay, great. Thanks very much guys. Speaker 200:28:56Thanks, Operator00:29:03The next question comes from Anita Soni with CIBC. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:29:09Good morning, Paul and Paul. A couple of questions. I think Mike has asked most of mine, but I just wanted to get an idea of how the CapEx plays out at both assets. There was a little bit of underspend this quarter, but I just want to understand, specifically at Mount Milligan, like where is the capital spend? Would it be in the summertime in Q2 and Q3 and then tapers off in Q4? Speaker 700:29:33Or how does it work? Speaker 400:29:35Yes. I'll speak for Saineta and then Paul can chime in if he wants to elaborate. It's going to be quite heavy in Q2 and Q3. So a lot of the Milligan CapEx is focused on the tailing storage facility, required lifts and activity there this year as well as a pumping station for water. You couldn't really do some of those things in Q1. Speaker 400:29:56I would say the vast majority of the CapEx at Mount Milligan is planned for spring and summer, but then Q4 trailing off a little bit. So, bottling the majority of milling in CapEx, say 75% of the year throughout the 2 middle quarters. Oksut is a little more even. Q1 is pretty representative of what you'll see. There'll be little movements quarter over quarter, but that one's more even throughout the year. Speaker 700:30:25And then the last one was all of the care and maintenance and malignant business unit capital. It was I can't remember exactly where it was, but there was some significant under spend in some of that. Speaker 400:30:38Yes. So I think if we look at the molybdenum business unit, the one capital item at Wangloff is the asset plant shutdown, which is happening in Q2. It's happening right now. When we look at Thompson Creek, just a reminder, we've only guided the first half of the year. They did under spend a little bit in Q1. Speaker 400:30:55We still expect their first half spending to be similar to what we have out there guidance wise. And then we will re guide the second half of the year when we put out the results of the feasibility study. So I don't think we're expecting big changes on Thompson Creek from what's out there through the first half. 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