Intercontinental Exchange Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • ICE delivered a record Q1 with net revenues of $2.3 billion (+5% pro forma), adjusted operating income of $1.4 billion (+8%), and EPS of $1.48, while lowering full-year expense guidance after generating $877 million in free cash flow and reducing debt by $600 million.
  • The Exchange segment posted record net revenues of $1.2 billion (+11% YoY), driven by transaction revenues of $866 million (+16%), with energy revenues up 32% and open interest up 23%.
  • Fixed Income & Data Services achieved record Q1 revenues of $568 million, including recurring revenues up 4% and transaction revenues buoyed by corporate bond trading, and saw annual subscription value growth accelerate to 4%.
  • Mortgage Technologies revenues were $499 million in Q1, with recurring revenues pressured by industry consolidation and lower renewal minimums, and full-year guidance now calls for flat to low-single-digit revenue declines despite an 8% increase in segment operating income from expense synergies.
  • ICE is capitalizing on AI demand by launching an internal AI Center of Excellence and hosting client AI models on its global data center and cloud network, which is expected to drive multi-year growth in connectivity and environmental markets.
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Earnings Conference Call
Intercontinental Exchange Q1 2024
00:00 / 00:00

There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the ICE First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. My name is Emily, and I'll be facilitating your call today. After the presentation, you will have the opportunity to ask any questions, which you can do so by pressing star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. I will now hand over to Katia Gonzales, Manager of ICE's Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning. ICE's Q1 2024 earnings release and presentation can be found in the Investors section of ice.com. These items will be archived and our call will be available for replay. Today's call may contain forward looking statements. These statements, which we undertake no obligation to update, represent our current judgment and are subject to risks, assumptions and uncertainties.

Speaker 1

For a description of the risks that could cause our results to differ materially from those described in forward looking statements, please refer to our 2023 Form 10 ks, 2024 Q1 Form 10 Q and other filings with the SEC. In our earnings supplement, we refer to certain non GAAP measures. We believe our non GAAP measures are more reflective of our cash operations and core business performance. You'll find a reconciliation to the equivalent GAAP terms in the earnings materials. When used on this call, net revenue refers to revenue net of transaction based expenses and adjusted earnings refers to adjusted diluted earnings per share.

Speaker 1

Through this presentation, unless otherwise indicated, references to revenue growth are on a constant currency basis. Please see the explanatory notes on the second page of the earnings supplement for additional details regarding the definition of certain items. With us on the call today are Jeff Sprecher, Chair and CEO Warren Gardner, Chief Financial Officer Ben Jackson, President Lynn Martin, President of the NYSE and Chris Edmonds, President of Fixed Income and Data Services. I'll now turn the call over to Warren.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Katya. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'll begin on Slide 4 with a summary of our strong Q1 results. First quarter net revenues totaled a record $2,300,000,000 and pro form a for the acquisition of Black Knight increased by 5% versus last year. 1st quarter adjusted operating expenses totaled $930,000,000 at the low end of our guidance range driven by an acceleration of planned expense synergies and a few one time benefits within compensation costs.

Speaker 2

Moving to the balance of the year, we expect 2nd quarter adjusted operating expenses to be in the range of $945,000,000 to $955,000,000 with a sequential increase driven in part by a full quarter of merit increases across the organization, planned investments and the modernization of MSP and higher DNA as recent revenue related data center investments go live. In addition, and in part due to synergies being realized sooner than previously expected, we are lowering our full year expense guidance to $3,790,000,000 to $3,820,000,000 This strong first quarter performance helped to drive record adjusted operating income of $1,400,000,000 up 8% year over year on a pro form a basis and record earnings per share of $1.48 1st quarter free cash flow totaled $877,000,000 enabling us to reduce debt outstanding by roughly $600,000,000 in the Q1. Since we completed our acquisition of Black Knight in September, we've reduced debt by roughly $2,000,000,000 and as a result, adjusted leverage ended the Q1 approximately 3.9 times pro form a EBITDA with 1st quarter interest expense down $10,000,000 from the 4th quarter. Now let's move to Slide 5, where I'll provide an overview of the performance of our Exchange segments. 1st quarter net revenues totaled a record $1,200,000,000 up 11% year over year.

Speaker 2

Record transaction revenues of $866,000,000 were up 16%, in part driven by a 12% increase in our interest rate business and record energy revenues, which grew 32% year over year. This strong performance included a 28% increase in our oil complex, 42% growth in global natural gas revenues, driven by another record setting quarter for TTS and 26% growth in our environmental business. In addition, as of the end of April, open interest is up 23% year over year, including 22% growth in our global commodities and 25% growth in our energy markets. Shifting to recurring revenues, which include our exchange data services and our NYC listings business, revenue totaled $357,000,000 in the Q1. Similar to last quarter, growth in the number of customers consuming our global energy environmental data was partially offset by the rolling off of initial listing fees related to the strong IPO market in 2021 and lower exchange data revenue at the NYSE.

Speaker 2

It's worth noting that the IPO market has shown signs of improvement so far in 2024, with the NYSE capturing nearly 70% of total proceeds raised and welcoming 6 of the top 7 IPOs year to date despite more than 50% of new listings not meeting our gold standard of qualification criteria. Turning now to Slide 6, I'll discuss our fixed income and data services segment. 1st quarter revenues totaled a record 568,000,000 dollars Transaction revenues of $119,000,000 were driven by growth in corporate bond trading, which was in part driven by strong growth within our institutional channel. This was offset by lower treasury and CD volumes as well as lower levels of CDS clearing activity. Record recurring revenues totaled 449,000,000 and grew by 4% year over year.

Speaker 2

In our fixed income and data and analytics business, record first quarter revenues of $288,000,000 increased by 4%. Growth was once again driven by improving trends in our PRD business and another quarter of double digit growth in our index business. Importantly, fixed income data and analytics ASV or annual subscription value improved from the 2% range experienced through much of 2023 to 4% exiting the Q1, as we continue to see customer re engagement and investment across the fixed income ecosystem. Other data and network services grew 4% in the Q1 driven by our feeds business and continued strength in our oil and gas desktop solutions, both of which grew double digits year over year. Importantly, demand for our connectivity solutions remained strong with the backlog of signatures related to our ICE global network offering expected to come online and into both ASV and revenue in early July following the build out of additional data center capacity.

Speaker 2

As a result, we expect 2nd quarter year over year growth in overall recurring revenue to be similar to the Q1, with year over year growth improving in the second half driven by continued strong trends across fixed income, data and analytics and an acceleration in growth in our other data and network services businesses. Please flip to Slide 7, where I will discuss the results in our Mortgage Technologies segment. Please note that my comments are on a pro form a basis. ICE Mortgage Technology revenues totaled $499,000,000 in the Q1. Recurring revenues totaled $390,000,000,000 As we noted last quarter, recurring revenues were impacted by both industry consolidation and continued pressure on renewals within our origination technology business.

Speaker 2

It's worth noting that while current macro conditions are putting pressure on minimums of renewal and thus our recurring revenues, customers are overwhelmingly remaining on our platform. And while yet to manifest in our results, lower minimums upon renewal are paired with a higher price per transaction, a dynamic that will provide an incremental tailwind when industry volumes normalize. Said differently, total contract value in a normal market is on average increasing upon renewal. Transaction revenues sold $109,000,000 in the 1st quarter. While closed loans increased slightly, this was offset by lower professional services fees and lower default management revenues within our servicing business.

Speaker 2

Importantly, as I previously indicated, we have realized expense synergies faster than originally anticipated, which when coupled with a relatively stable top line on a year over year basis has helped to drive an 8% increase in segment operating income. Looking to the full year and after factoring in the dramatic shift in interest rate expectations for 2024 relative to just 3 months ago, we now expect total revenue growth in our mortgage technology business to be flat to down in the low single digit range, with revenues unlikely to improve materially from the Q1 levels until the second half. The high end of the range is underpinned by a flat to modest improvement in industry origination volumes, while the lower end of the range anticipates a more conservative decline in the mid to high single digit range relative to 2023. Despite these macro pressures, we continue to invest in product development and enhancement. We continue to expand our existing network and we are executing on our synergy targets, all which further position our platform to realize accelerating growth when market conditions normalize.

Speaker 2

In summary, we delivered another very strong start to the year. We once again delivered strong revenue, operating income, free cash flow and adjusted earnings per share growth. And we continue to invest across our business to meet both the needs of our customers and to position our business to continue to deliver consistent and compounding growth for our stockholders into the future. I'll be happy to take your questions during Q and A. For now, I'll hand it over to Ben.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Warren, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Please turn to Slide 8. Our customers continue to rely on our leading technology, mission critical data and transparent and accessible markets to navigate uncertainty while managing risk. Across our Global Futures and Options business, total average daily volumes increased 16% to a record 8,100,000 lots in the Q1, including records across commodities, energy and total options. This strong performance drove record futures and options revenues with energy revenues nearly tripling since the same period in 2010 and growing double digits on average over that timeframe.

Speaker 3

And through April, open interest across our global commodities and energy markets remains at all time highs, up 22% 25%, respectively, versus last year. A direct benefit from the long tail of secular growth trends unfolding across global oil, natural gas and environmental markets. A number of years ago, we recognized the importance of investing in an energy platform that is truly global, one that better serves the needs of an evolving and growing commercial customer base. Today, as a result of organic and inorganic investments, trading on our network is not tied to any single product or limited to any one region. Instead, we have built a diversified energy network delivering comprehensive risk management solutions, providing capital efficiencies and position to grow alongside the continued evolution of global markets.

Speaker 3

In our oil markets, as trade dynamics evolve and become increasingly complex, customers seek not only liquidity in the global major global benchmarks, but also in products that provide for greater hedging precision. Reflecting this dynamic, our other crude and refined products continue to set records with ADV growing double digits on average over the past 5 years. This portfolio increased 47% year over year in the Q1 alone, while open interest is up 27% through the end of April. In the more than 20 years that ICE has been building its global energy platform, we have created hundreds of precise hedging instruments, driven by collaboration with our customers. All of these instruments are underpinned by the deep liquidity in our benchmarks such as Brent.

Speaker 3

In March 2021, in partnership with the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company and 9 of the world's largest energy traders as founding partners, we launched ICE Futures Abu Dhabi or IFAD. This new exchange enabled for the first time market participants to come together and contribute to the price formation of a new innovation, the Mervyn Futures contract, an important benchmark for oil flowing to Asia. In the Q1, as IFAD marked its 3rd anniversary, our Mervyn futures reached new highs surpassing over 1,000,000 contracts traded along with a series of open interest records in April. Similarly, our Platts Dubai contract had another quarter of record volumes increasing 58% year over year. Another innovation that we launched 2 years ago, the Midland WCI contract known as Hou is a deliverable crude grade of Midland oil basis Houston.

Speaker 3

This contract is fast becoming the most accurate representation of the Houston oil market as evidenced by Hou reaching record volumes during the quarter. Further supporting the growth of this new risk management innovation is that this oil has been added into the ICE Brent basket, which creates new opportunities for clients to manage risk by hedging with this contract. Collectively, this strong performance drove another quarter of record oil revenues up 28% year over year. In our natural gas markets, the globalization of gas and the rise of LNG are secular trends we began investing in over a decade ago, beginning with our Endex investment, an investment that has established us as a leader in European gas trading. Today with Asia as the largest buyer of global LNG, the relationship between our European TTF and Asian JKM benchmarks drives global price formation.

Speaker 3

In the Q1, the number of market participants in each market grew double digits versus last year with both reaching record volumes. This strong performance drove record natural gas revenues up 42% year over year in the Q1. Importantly, open interest trends for TTS and JKM remained strong through April, up 90% and 50% year over year respectively. The globalization of natural gas alongside a global focus on decarbonization is critical to environmental markets. Built off of our acquisition of the Climate Exchange more than a decade ago, we operate the world's largest and most liquid environmental markets.

Speaker 3

Here, we have seen the number of active market participants grow double digits on average over the past 5 years, including record participation in the Q1. At the same time, ADV across our environmental portfolio increased 22% year over year with open interest up 27% through the end of April. Price transparency across the energy spectrum is critical as companies look to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions in a cost effective manner. By combining the network and liquidity of our global energy platform with our leading environmental portfolio, we are well positioned to help our customers navigate this transition across global energy markets. In summary, the evolution of our energy markets is one example of how we continuously invest and develop customer driven solutions across asset classes, as well as the creative approach we've taken to leverage our infrastructure, technology and expertise to drive value creation.

Speaker 3

Our record performance is a product of these investments, some that we've made more than a decade ago and our commitment to staying close to our customers, an approach that permeates this organization helping to drive effective and efficient product innovation. This approach is also important to our data business where we are uniquely positioned to leverage our distribution and our infrastructure to create new content and to expand the breadth of our offering. Our position as a leading provider of price and reference data has served as the foundation for what is today one of the largest providers of fixed income indices globally. The accelerating growth of passive investing and the efforts we've made to increase the breadth of our offering and the flexibility of our approach to index construction has contributed to the double digit average annual growth in our index business since we acquired the Bank of America Merrill Lynch franchise in 2017. A key driver of this growth is the increase in the passive ETF assets under management benchmark to our indices, growing to a record of $593,000,000,000 through the end of the Q1 from less than $100,000,000,000 in 2017.

Speaker 3

While critical, our pricing data and index businesses are only components of what we offer to this growing industry. As a leading provider of such proprietary data we have developed deep expertise in gathering and cleansing unstructured data, skills in building the database that serves as the foundation for developing actionable insights and identifying opportunities not only in the fixed income markets, but across many other asset classes. This is an expertise we're starting to leverage across a number of mortgage data initiatives. For example, in April, we announced the integration of our property and loan level mortgage datasets with our property level climate risk metrics covering more than 100,000,000 U. S.

Speaker 3

Homes. This integration improves transparency and facilitates risk management throughout the housing finance and property insurance sector, allowing customers to apply ICE's climate metrics to individual loans, properties and entire portfolios, improving the visibility to the inherent climate risks in each. In addition, we are leveraging these insights to enhance asset level climate risk modeling for existing municipal bond and mortgage backed securities products. As we move forward, there's significant opportunity to continue to expand and evolve the products and services within our fixed income and data services business. Turning now to our mortgage business.

Speaker 3

Following the proven playbook we've applied across our global energy and fixed income businesses, In mortgages, we are leveraging market leading technology, mission critical data and our network expertise to build innovative solutions that improve workflow efficiencies. With a touch point to nearly every market participant, we have connectivity to a customer base in need of the automation that our digital solutions provide. In this regard, we're pleased to share that we closed 20 new Encompass clients in the Q1. Building on the wins we announced last year with banks such as M and T and JPMorgan Chase and the announcement earlier this year of adding SIF3rd Bank to encompass on top of their move to MSP announced late last year, we are pleased to now announce that Citizens Bank and Webster Bank, both existing MSP clients are moving to encompass. Just like many of the other recent wins that we are implementing, these clients see the significant value that we can provide through our complete front to back offering.

Speaker 3

For MSP, building on the Capital Mortgage Solutions of Texas and Our growing customer relationships serve as the validation of our vision, bringing together a complete front to back experience for our customers and their clients through one trusted lifecycle, starting with matching a consumer to the right lending product at the right time on the loan origination, closing, servicing and the capital markets. This is directly in line with our long term vision and the journey we have been on. Importantly, we remain focused on executing on our strategy of relieving the pain points and inefficiencies that exist across the mortgage workflow and remain committed to investing behind secular growth while enhancing the value proposition of our network. For example, we have completed the evolution of Encompass to a new web user experience with new automation tools and more ways to partner and extend the platform to serve our customers' business needs. In parallel, we're executing on our investment commitments to continue to advance our market leading MSP servicing platform.

Speaker 3

A perfect example of this execution is the recently announced rollout of our MSP Digital Experience or MSP DX. This service is an intuitive and conversational new interface leveraging natural language processing for our servicing system designed to streamline workflows, increase efficiencies and expedite training of new servicing personnel. Along the same lines, we've completed our first integration of Encompass to MSP. This integration leverages our data and document automation platform and our neural network, large language model for the classification and extraction of data from documents to automate loan onboarding from encompass straight to MSP, reducing errors and providing significant efficiencies to clients that have our front to back solution set. Simultaneously, we've been integrating our tax, flood and closing fees into encompass, providing lenders more choice in service providers for these important underwriting data assets.

Speaker 3

In summary, as we move through 2024 and beyond, we are excited about the many opportunities for growth that lie ahead. Opportunities that we're able to capture because of the investments we've made in the past and the strategic investments we will continue to make across our networks into the future. With that, I'll turn the call over

Speaker 4

to Jeff.

Speaker 5

Thank you, Ben. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Please turn to Slide 9. We are increasingly being asked how ICE is incorporating artificial intelligence into our business. So while I'm not here to discuss the financial impact, I thought I'd touch on some of the AI investments across ICE.

Speaker 5

Like many large corporations, we have developers working on how to integrate AI models into our products, on how we better contract for and monetize proprietary data sets and on how we improved our own productivity. Along those lines, we've created an internal R and D group that we're calling our AI Center of Excellence, where we're testing novel use cases and working to build appropriate governance guardrails to reduce or eliminate the risks inherent to AI. We are focused on getting it right while working towards a goal of bringing AI enabled enhancements and new products to our customers. Ben just spoke about investing in our mortgage data and document automation product, which is an extension of the product formerly called AIQ that we acquired with Ellie Mae. We've also mentioned investing in our commodity chat platform called ICE Chat to improve upon actionable insights and market data.

Speaker 5

And we've commented on our work using artificial intelligence models for pattern recognition in our regulatory compliance activities. Today, I'd like to further speak to some of the lesser known second order impacts of the market's current energetic focus on AI that we see feeding growth to ICE. If you think back to the start of ICE, the prevalent financial exchanges were largely open outcry venues and both listed and over the counter trading involves significant involvement of human intermediaries. Our thesis of using digital networks to connect people and broaden access to risk management pushed us to create and manage our own data centers and network channels. Today, we operate from 14 global data centers and we've built out the ICE cloud, a managed network connecting our data centers to many third party trading and data venues and interconnecting major players across the global financial services industry.

Speaker 5

We've made the determination that managing our own IT infrastructure and making it available to our customers directly and through an ICE managed cloud offers us a competitive advantage while providing for better intellectual property protection and creating an avenue for our connectivity and data revenue growth. One service that we offer our customers is the ability to utilize their code and equipment within the ICE global network and transmit the digital output across the ICE managed cloud. This ICE strategy has resulted in requests from customers to incorporate their AI models inside of our network and is driving increasing demand for ICE data center and ICE cloud access. We've already received customer deposits for much of our planned year 2025 year 2026 network build outs, and we've been working with our vendors to plan for its continued expansion. This customer interest in artificial intelligence modeling should provide a multiyear tailwind to revenue growth in our data and connectivity business.

Speaker 5

Another second order revenue impact from the current interest in AI is the attention that our listed emissions offset markets and our listed renewable energy markets are receiving from power companies and third party data center developers as they plan for their future growth given that ICE is a major host of the world's tradable emission in renewable energy markets. Our subsidiary ICE Benchmark Administration, which administers regulated benchmarks, manages our carbon market data service that provides validated data to companies seeking information about the voluntary markets for carbon credits. Interest in these markets is surging as evidenced by corporate involvement more than doubling over the past 6 months to more than 2 50 firms. And last month, the United Nations Science Based Target Initiative, the world's main verifier of emissions targets, said that it will permit the use of emission offset credits to count towards reducing emissions against Scope 3 targets. Coupled with the European Commission's aim to increase its emissions reductions beginning in 20 plus the EU's inclusion of new industrial sectors that will be subject to these targets, we believe the backdrop for revenue growth in ICE's environmental and renewable markets attributable to AI model demand remains bright.

Speaker 5

Shifting now to our strong results. In the Q1, we once again grew revenues, grew adjusted operating income and grew adjusted earnings per share, yet again delivering the best quarter in our company's history. Our consistent results are a testament to the value of our mission critical data, leading market technology and the strength of our strategic business model. ICE is a company that has deliberately grown through curated entrepreneurship. We have targeted an interrelated collection of markets to help our customers manage risk due to both acts of nature and acts of man.

Speaker 5

Typically, we think of our global commodity oriented businesses as being levered to acts of nature, such as issues that affect supply chain flows. And we think of our global financially oriented risk management businesses as being levered to acts of man, such as central bank and cross border trade policies. We purposely have targeted providing a mix of these businesses to find growth somewhere in the world in varying underlying conditions, and we have intentionally positioned our company to provide customer solutions to facilitate all weather results, such as those we are reporting for this record quarter. I'd like to end my prepared remarks by thanking customers for their continued business and for their trust. And I'd like to thank my colleagues at ICE for their contributions to our best ever quarterly results.

Speaker 5

And with that, I'll now turn the call back to our moderator, Emily, and we'll conduct a question and answer session until 9:30 a. M. Eastern Time.

Operator

Thank Our first question today comes from the line of Ken Worthington with JPMorgan. Ken, please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning and thanks for taking the question. I wanted to dig a bit more into the globalization of gas. So a couple of questions here. OI is surging in TTF, volume growth remains very strong. How far along is this period of rapid growth for TTF?

Speaker 6

And is it really being driven by the globalization of gas? Or is there something else driving this most recent surge? And then can you address the extent to which the Biden administration pause of LNG export licenses could impact the globalization of gas. It feels like a speed bump along the way, but does like a Republican President change the equation? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Hi, Ken. It's Ben. Thanks for the question. And

Speaker 7

I'll take the first part of

Speaker 3

your question first, then I'll hit the second part. In terms of natural gas, we believe that TTF has a long, long runway to go. And what really fundamentally changed is that natural gas has been liberalized. It's no longer wedded to just pipeline flows and it can now move freely around the world in the form of LNG and there's been massive investments in LNG terminals and regasification terminals around the world that have really changed and evolved gas into a global commodity and TTF has emerged as the global way to hedge that risk. And if you look at all the risks around the world right now and across Europe and the U.

Speaker 3

S, we believe that you need to have not only benchmark products, but you also have to have products that enable people to manage risk at more precise hedging locations as well in parallel to products like TTF. I mean, right now, you look at the dynamics, the European gas markets have recovered to some degree with U. S. LNG now flowing into Europe. You've got this past winter.

Speaker 3

We had a mild winter in Europe. But you still have a backdrop of geopolitical risks that introduce tail risk and ongoing risk to energy supply that are going to continue to evolve supply chains around the natural gas market. And now that gas can move freely, we think there's going to be a tremendous amount of opportunities for clients to use our products to hedge all of those risks, the confluence of those risks and as those things change and evolve. And as you pointed out, TTF has had a tremendous runway here. Our open interest is up 90% year over year and volumes are up 60%.

Speaker 3

In terms of the White House pausing on new permits for LNG exporters from the U. S, we see this as just another speed bump, you used the right word, along the way that market participants have to look at and determine what risk does this introduce to me. It takes years for this to have an impact. Permits that are in place now take years to come online. So it's more of a longer term implication for the market to absorb.

Speaker 3

But on the same token, you have a new LNG terminal coming online in Canada soon. So you're going to continue to see LNG as it's been liberalized move around the world. That risk needs to be managed and PTS is the fundamental place that it's done.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank

Speaker 3

you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Benjamin Budish with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning and thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you could touch on IMT revised guidance. To what extent is your view on the transaction based opportunity dependent on or based on changes in the NBA forecast? Or Warren, I think you mentioned the change in the interest rate outlook over the course of the year. How much is that are those two pieces sort of impacting what that business could look like, the supply and demand for housing versus interest rates making the environment less affordable?

Speaker 7

And then on the recurring revenue side, it sounds like the negotiations are a little bit tougher in terms of minimum contract levels. Any commentary on the overall health of the customer base? It sounds like churn is quite low, but any other color there would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure, Ben. Let me start on that transaction. I'm going to turn to Ben to give you some color more on what's going on with the customer front. So So yes, you're correct. I mean, when we thought about guidance last quarter and we gave you that guidance, the high end of that range really was baking in what some of the forecasters were giving you in terms of what they thought the year was going to look like.

Speaker 2

And we wanted to build in towards the lower end of that range, a little bit more of a conservative outlook. You've seen that they brought those down as well and that actually now so that same framework was how we were thinking about this as we revised guidance this quarter because we've now taken it down sort of similar at least at the high end towards where they're sitting at the moment. And then we wanted to put a little bit more of a conservative bent on it towards the lower end of that range as we move forward. There's obviously a lot of uncertainty around what the trajectory of interest rates and therefore mortgage bonds are going to look like as we move through the balance of the year. And so that was how we were thinking about it from an origination standpoint and just the macro impact that, that has on the customer base as they think about making decisions and things of that nature.

Speaker 3

Hey, Ben. I'll follow-up on the second part of your question there. We have 100% conviction on the ability that for this business to grow over the long term and we've continued quarter over quarter to just give more and more evidence to the fact with just customer wins that are coming on board. So we feel great that even in this volume environment that is an environment that hasn't been seen almost in a generation since 1991, that we're continuing to bring customers onto our platform, into our ecosystem and continuing to gain in that area. The couple of things, obviously, in this past quarter, the industry shifted from a rate cut expectation of 5 to 6 cuts in 2024 to what seems like now is 1, maybe 2.

Speaker 3

And this happened rapidly. So we're watching and monitoring what's happening with our clients as a result of that. The couple of things I'd point out, customers are renewing and renewing at very high levels. On the renewal front, we're seeing almost a repeat of what we've seen and what I've talked about in several quarters now that the majority of our customers are renewing and they're renewing at higher minimums, higher subscription levels. But we are seeing some percentage of those customers that are choosing to renew with lower minimums, lower subscriptions.

Speaker 3

But the trade off there is consistently a higher per close loan fee. And our objective on all of these renewals, which we're achieving, is to increase the total contract value that these customers are regardless of which way, they go in that innovation that we're introducing into the marketplace. So in terms of renewals, we're not really seeing a significant change. On the sales front, we continue to have great sales success. I just mentioned several new wins on top of other wins that we've announced recently with Citizens Bank and Webster Bank.

Speaker 3

So we feel good about the funnel. What's unknown and what we're just watching closely is that just given how fast rate expectations changed, a lot of our market participants want market stability and want to view as to when they're going to get return on investments. So we're watching closely to see our sales cycles going to potentially lengthen. But for the most part, we are seeing customers continuing to take this time while the tide is out to invest in this critical infrastructure so that when the tide comes back in, they're well positioned to capitalize on it. All right.

Speaker 3

Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Patrick Mearle with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead Patrick. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Yes. Hi, thanks for taking the question. I was hoping that you could just provide an overview or a progress update on your efforts to build out institutional connectivity in the fixed income and data services business? And then secondly, can you help us understand the institutional opportunity there, and your strategy just from an inorganic, inorganic standpoint? Thanks.

Speaker 9

Hi, this is Lynn Martin. Thanks so much for the question. So we are incredibly excited at the opportunity to continue to build out the institutional connectivity across our fixed income and data services segment. Now we part of the reason why we're so excited is because we have seen the adoption on the institutional side in our muni execution business in particular continued to grow with a 68% CAGR over the last 2 years. And because of the way we have deliberately curated our data assets, we think there is still room to continue to grow given the success we've had with institutional adoption, particularly in our index business.

Speaker 9

Our index business, as Ben mentioned earlier in his prepared remarks, is now at a record roughly $600,000,000,000 in AUM that benchmarks against our index business. Going to turn it to my colleague, Chris, to give you some more color on the progress he's made since he stepped into the role. Yes.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Glenn. Patrick, thanks for the question. What I've seen from being in the role since January 1, is this opportunity on the execution side for us to draw closer what we're seeing in the development of SMA or separate managed accounts to the institutional trading that's going on there. There's a deep desire across the street to get closer to those two pools of liquidity and we're uniquely positioned to provide that opportunity. And as Lynn mentioned, bringing the data, so everyone's looking at the exactly the same marks and valuations for those transaction values has been an important way for us to step up to the plate and provide that solution that is unique across the street and available to us and our clients.

Speaker 8

Okay. Thanks for the color.

Operator

Our next question comes from Dan Fannon with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to follow-up on mortgage. You guys obviously are having a lot of success in signing up large financial institutions over the last several quarters. How do we think about the on ramp and the revenue contribution of some of these larger firms?

Speaker 4

And also separately on the servicing side, there was some declines both year over year and quarter over quarter. I wanted to understand why the recurring portion of some of that business that's legacy Black Knight is also under a bit of pressure.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Dan. It's Ben. In terms of these large clients that we've signed, it does take time to implement them. These systems are core to their operations. There's a high amount of compliance that's managed through these applications.

Speaker 3

So it takes time to bed them down in highly regulated companies. So it is going to take time for those to flow through. But many of them as they as we've been announcing a lot of these wins through last year are going to start playing out towards the latter part of this year and into next year you'll start seeing contribution of those. On the servicing side, the servicing business is doing very well. From our perspective, we and we mentioned it on last call, there has been some industry consolidation that did impact a little bit in Q1.

Speaker 3

You do have MSRs, mortgage servicing rights, that do switch at times between sub servicers, some that are on MSP and some that are not on MSP. And we saw some of that again in Q1, but the net effect is it basically nets out. One change we did see was in this past quarter was we did see an acceleration from 1 of the large depositories that's been very public about wanting to sell some of what they saw as their non strategic MSRs that came through their correspondent channel. So we saw an acceleration of that. We see that as a temporary thing.

Speaker 3

But overall on MSP, we have a record number of clients that are on MSP with 94 clients and we have 13 clients that are going through implementations. Many of these are ones that we've announced since we closed on Black Knight and have really accelerated the ability to pick up a lot of these clients. The second thing I'd point out is that on the servicing side, I'm really pleased with our execution in terms of modernizing that technology stack. I mentioned in my prepared remarks, the new natural language processing based platform in MSP DX. So the whole interface that the clients use to interface that with the servicing system has been overhauled already.

Speaker 3

As I mentioned on a prior call, we've embedded the Simplifile platform into the back end of MSP to automate the process of releasing liens. So really unique position we're in to automate that with the platform that we have in Simplifile. We've, as mentioned in my prepared remarks, we've integrated Encompass to MSP, leveraging our data and document automation platform. And the last thing I'd point out is a lot of these Encompass wins that I keep mentioning are our clients that are on MSP. Wester and Citizens Bank are 2 perfect examples where they're on MSP and the clients see the efficiency and the vision the efficiency that we provide and the vision of where we're going as really helping us pull through Encompass wins.

Speaker 3

So we feel great about the positioning of Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Allen with Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Yes, good morning everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to dig in a little bit more on the fixed income business. I believe you've noted in the prepared remarks investments by clients in the business, so maybe some color there. I believe you with the new leadership in the business, you were taking efforts to kind of reinvigorate the sales process.

Speaker 8

Just wondering where you are with that? Do you think you're fully up to speed and have improved kind of the sales and retention focus that you'd spoken to before?

Speaker 4

Hi, it's Chris. I what I would say, I've seen since taking on the role is 2 really things, 1 macro and 1 I think related to us. Certainly, there's a focus on the client base to find the most comprehensive solution set that's available and they're looking for opportunities around there to tie that into single or very few vendors to provide that. And we also made a change in how we have serviced the clients since January. And so we moved to a different structure within the team itself.

Speaker 4

And I'm very proud of the team and the results that they've produced from that, because they're much closer to the client these days. And those two things coming together, we've seen a shortened sales cycle on some of the products that we have historically had great success with. We've also seen a much more robust discussion on future strategic plans on the client base. So I think we're well positioned going into the rest of the year to bring that to

Speaker 9

bear. And then just to follow that up, this is Lynn. On the macro side, we've seen a re engagement on the fixed income fund side of the business with the amount of fixed income funds having increased by about 7% versus the prior year, which again makes us incredibly well positioned given the suite of assets that we have both on the end of day pricing, the reference data, the years of history there, plus on the more modern tools that we have rolled out to the market income index business that I referenced earlier in my income index business that I referenced earlier in my comments.

Operator

Our next question comes from Craig Siegenthaler with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Our question is on the acceleration in ASV in the fixed income business. We're curious which channels are driving upside to wins. Has there been any noticeable changes in attrition?

Speaker 6

And how will this translate into future revenue growth?

Speaker 2

Hey, Craig, it's Warren. So I think Chris and Lynn just covered kind of what we were seeing on the customer front. That's a big part of why you're seeing that pickup in ASV, in the fixed income in data and analytics business. And so we've seen pretty stable retention trends. We're seeing an improvement in the sales cycle.

Speaker 2

We're seeing, as I said in my prepared remarks, more of a reengagement from the customer base within the fixed income ecosystem around those products, whether it's the pricing and reference data business or the index business. And that's really a big reason of why we're seeing the improvement there. And it's really as we spoke to you guys throughout the course of last year, we were having some pressures on that business. We mentioned that it was because we had a really sharp move higher in interest rates. There was sort of a period of time there where customers were sitting on their hands trying to sort of licking their wounds, if you will, in a way.

Speaker 2

And now that we've seen somewhat of a stabilization here at these kinds of interest rates, fixed income becomes a fairly attractive asset class. And I think that's a lot of the reason you're seeing that reengagement, you're seeing fund growth, you're seeing index purchases, things of that nature that's really starting to help that business pick up versus where it was a couple of quarters ago.

Operator

The next question comes from Kyle Voigt with KBW. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just on the Exchange segment, I think the recurring revenues there were flat, and I think only 1% growth on the dating connectivity side. I guess, are you still expecting low single digit growth in recurring fees for the full year in that segment? And then if so, is that dependent on the IPO environment opening up further or would you expect some acceleration in the data and connectivity line into the back half of the year that could still drive full year growth into that low single digit range?

Speaker 2

Hey, Kyle, it's Warren. So yes, we still expect that to be in the low single digit range. Really what happened this quarter, I mentioned a little bit in my prepared remarks, was more on the New York Stock Exchange data side, where in the prior year, we had the administrative tape C overbilled people and our allocation was a little bit higher. So we had to reverse some of that in the Q1. You'll see revenue in the 2nd quarter pick back up as that kind of is no longer the case for us.

Speaker 2

And so I think you start to see a little bit better growth as we kind of move through the balance of the year within that segment, because the underlying trends there are still the same as what we've been seeing in the last couple of quarters. Certainly, on the Exchange Data side, things are positive. We're seeing some momentum in listings for sure, but at the same time there is M and A, there is still an element of delistings on the SPAC side that's weighing a little bit. So to get to that low single digit, I don't think you necessarily need to see a big acceleration in listings, but certainly we are seeing some positive things that I think are encouraging on that front. And I think the trends on the exchange data side, particularly on the future side, I think will continue to be strong through the balance of the year.

Speaker 10

Great. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Brian Bedell with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Great. Thanks. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just a 2 parter on mortgage for Warren and Ben.

Speaker 11

Just on the guidance for the segment, maybe just your view on the trends of recurring revenue throughout the year as we progress sequentially each quarter. Just generally the trend given the pullback in some of the renewals, the Black Knight servicing headwinds contrasted with and this links into probably Ben, but contrasted with the really good progress you're making on the new business wins. And then if you could update us on the I think you were at $30,000,000 out of the $125,000,000 revenue synergy goal at the end of 4th quarter, if you could update that number on a run rate basis?

Speaker 2

It sounds like 3 questions, Brian.

Speaker 11

Sorry.

Speaker 2

I'll take 1 and 3, Ben. Ben will take 2. So I think towards the higher end of that of the total of the range for total revenue. We're talking about originations down more in the higher single digit mid to high single digit range versus 2023, which was also, by the way, the worst year for originations in probably about 30 years. I think you'd expect recurring revenues to be down a little bit year over year.

Speaker 2

I mean, renewals will come in a little bit we will be under a little bit of pressure, continue to be under a little bit of pressure. I would imagine decisions get pushed out a little bit, things of that nature. Towards the higher end, I think flat to maybe potentially a little bit softer versus last year's there and really for the same reasons, which is not really to the same magnitude that you would see probably in the higher single digit range, if you will, on that front. So, look, I think importantly all through all of this and what's kind of driving some of this is just uncertainty across this asset class, uncertainty across a number of asset classes. And that uncertainty is helping to propel a lot of growth in other areas of our business.

Speaker 2

We've seen some better trends in both bonds. We've seen better trends in CDS in April. Obviously, our futures business is doing really well. And so, this mortgage business is part of a bigger and broader business that is proven to continue to compound through a lot of different environments. And I think that will continue to be the case despite what is kind of a really a generational low in industry origination volumes for the mortgage market at the moment.

Speaker 2

Quickly on just on the revenue synergies, we continue to make progress there. As we said, we're sort of around that $30,000,000 or so range last quarter. We continue to make progress on that front. We'll give you guys more of an update as we kind of move into closer to next year though.

Speaker 3

Okay. And I'll pick up on some of the comments that I made earlier around sales. So we continue to have great sales success. We're really happy with the success that we're having with our clients and the fact that even in this environment, and I use the analogy of the tides out, we're so pleased to see that clients right now are making investments at this point in time, to be able to better position them when the tide comes in and when volumes start to return that they don't have to just throw bodies to the business in a very inefficient way that they can actually leverage technology and automation that we're providing to help them grow. So we're very pleased in what we're seeing there.

Speaker 3

We're actually using it as also, Brian, as an opportunity to help our clients. So I'll give you an example. In our DNA business, we had some noise in our DNA line, this past quarter, where we had some clients that were legacy clients of our data and document automation platform that were not on Encompass. And they were struggling in terms of volumes and in this environment. We took it as an opportunity to restructure their agreement to, in some cases, get them onto Encompass, coupled with DDA, so that they can get the full value that that combined solution provides by having the loans originated on Encompass and then the automation capabilities to flow straight through because we have wedded that DDA platform directly into the Encompass platform.

Speaker 3

So we're using it as an opportunity that even though we now have to implement that client, it's going to take time to get them implemented. From a strategic perspective, we're in a much better situation with that client to continue to grow with them and provide value to that client going forward. And that example is specifically Citizens Bank. As they're now on Encompass, they have the DDA platform and they have MSP as a complete front to back solution set for that. So we're using it as an opportunity for clients as well.

Speaker 3

Okay. That's great color. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Alex Blostein with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead, Alex.

Speaker 12

Hi, good morning, everyone. Thank you for the question. I wanted to pivot a little bit, maybe focus on the energy markets for a couple of minutes. And specifically just zoning in an oil, now volatility has been a little bit more conducive to the environment here. But it looks like the open interest has been growing really nicely north of 20% or so year over year.

Speaker 12

So a couple of questions here, I guess. What is driving, I guess, the accelerated growth in oil for you guys across the board? It's not just brand and WTI, but it seems a little bit broader. And then how do you think about the sort of the structural versus cyclical benefits in that market? Are we in a kind of higher run rate growth from here?

Speaker 12

And if so, why? And maybe you can just expand out sort of the sources of growth there.

Speaker 3

Thanks. Thanks, Alex. It's Ben. And for us, we see it as a long term growth trend for us to answer the tail end of that question that you asked there. Because in our view, the trends within energy broadly as well as within oil specifically are still that there's been underinvestment in legacy energy infrastructure.

Speaker 3

The markets are still electronifying. The market wants the efficiency that can be provided by the electronification. You have energy markets that are more global. Supply chains are continuing to evolve. Clients want more precision their ability to manage risk at the points of production and consumption and the world's moving more green.

Speaker 3

So you have that confluence of issues and we've been managing our portfolio across energy as a portfolio that helps to solve all of those problems. So we've built deep liquid products across our gas business, hundreds of locations and benchmark products within our gas business. We've done the same exact thing within our oil business and we've done the same thing in our environmental business. So there's a relationship between all of those that we think is strong and you can't discount that as an underlying thing that's growing our overall complex because customers want to manage all this risk in one place. So we continue to be very well positioned.

Speaker 3

You have Brent's as the cornerstone of this business. I went through in my prepared remarks and we've talked about a lot of the innovation that we've introduced to this market over the last 3 years with our bourbon contract growing significantly with our HOU contract, which now has Midland WTI Oil basis, Houston flowing into the Brent contract. We are so well positioned across that complex to grow as our clients need the precision of these risk management tools, that it's fantastic for us. And even in oil, I'd point out that we've been from an environmental perspective investing in new contracts like our RINs contracts, Renewable Identification Numbers, as the EPA continues to raise the number of the amount of renewable fuels that needs to be blended into gasoline And that used to be a very much an OTC opaque market. And we've introduced futures into that and it's been growing very nicely for us as well.

Speaker 3

So we continue to innovate in this space not only within oil, but I think it's important to look at it in the broader context of our energy business.

Operator

We have no further questions. So I hand back to Jeff Sprecher, CEO for closing remarks.

Speaker 5

Well, thank you, Emily. Thanks all for joining us this morning. And I want to thank my colleagues again for a record Q1 and our customers for their continued business and trust. And we look forward to updating you again soon as we continue to try to innovate and build out this all weather business model. Have a good day.

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