Newmark Group Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 3, 2024

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Newmark Group First Quarter 2024 Financial Results Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Jason McGruder, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and good morning. Newmark issued its Q1 2024 financial results press release this morning. Unless otherwise stated, the results provided on today's call compare only the 3 months ending March 31, 2024 with the year earlier period. Except as otherwise stated, we will be referring to results only on a non GAAP basis, which include the terms adjusted earnings and adjusted EBITDA. Unless otherwise stated, any figures discussed today with respect to cash flow from operations refer to net cash provided by operating activities excluding loan origination and sales.

Speaker 1

Please refer to today's press release, the supplemental tables and the quarterly results presentation on our website for complete and updated definitions of any non GAAP terms, reconciliation of these terms to the corresponding GAAP results and how, when and why management uses them, as well as relevant industry or economic statistics. Our outlook discussed today assumes no material acquisitions or meaningful changes in our stock price. Our expectations are subject to change based on various macroeconomic, social, political and other factors. None of our targets or goals beyond 2024 should be considered formal guidance. Also remind you that information on this call contains forward looking statements, including without limitation, statements concerning our economic outlook and business.

Speaker 1

Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause our actual results to differ from expectations. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward looking statements. For a complete discussion of risks and other factors that may impact these forward looking statements, see our SEC filings, including, but not limited to, the risk factors and the disclosures required regarding forward looking information in our most recent SEC filings which are incorporated by reference. I am now happy to turn the call over to our host and Chief Executive Officer, Barry Gosin.

Speaker 2

Good morning and thank you for joining us. We are at the beginning of a once in a generation maturities due in 2024 and $2,000,000,000,000 over the next 3 years. We estimate that approximately 1 third of these maturing loans are likely to result in a loan sale or property sale. 1 third will need assistance with restructurings recapitalizations and 1 third will likely require an advisor to help find new lenders. Our substantial investments in data, analytics and talent uniquely position us to capitalize on these macroeconomic trends and to continue outperforming the industry.

Speaker 2

Newmark's nearly 14% increase in capital markets revenues outpaced the industry for the 3rd consecutive quarter. This strong performance was led by a 51% improvement in debt origination fees, multiple times greater than the industry. Our leading presence in capital markets will drive business across Newmark's other servicing line, including leasing, management and servicing. We are making considerable gains toward our goal of becoming the number one capital markets advisor in the U. S, while also expanding internationally across all service lines.

Speaker 2

During the quarter, Newmark opened a flagship office in France, Continental Europe's 2nd largest transaction market. We attracted some of the most talented leasing and capital markets professionals in the industry, which further demonstrates the strength of our brand. Newmark's leasing results were impacted by industry wide activity declines of more than 10% in the U. S. And over 20% in the U.

Speaker 2

K. We expect office leasing fundamentals to improve as the recapitalization of properties at lower values leads to a more attractive leasing market. We continue to expect solid fundamentals in industrial and retail leasing, which together represent 41% of Newmark's leasing revenues over our last 12 months. We increased revenues from management services, servicing fees and other by 21%, the 3rd consecutive quarter of double digit growth. This reflected the addition of Gerald E.

Speaker 2

As well as strong organic growth from our high margin servicing and asset management platform. Due to substantial investments in talent and the improving environment, our target is to generate over $3,000,000,000 in revenue and more than $630,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA in 2026. With that, I'm happy to turn the call over to our CFO, Mike Rispoli.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Barry, and good morning. Total revenues grew 4.9 percent to $546,500,000 Fees for management services, servicing and other grew by 22.7%. This improvement includes the addition of Gerald Eve as well as 21.4 percent organic growth from our high margin servicing and asset management platform. Our leasing revenues declined by 17.9% reflecting double digit industry declines. For the full year, we expect leasing to be down modestly.

Speaker 3

Our investment sales revenues were down 1.6% compared to a 16% U. S. Industry decline. We grew our debt origination fees by 50.5%, outperforming U. S.

Speaker 3

Industry volumes, which were up by approximately 5%. Turning to expenses. Our compensation expenses were flat on higher revenues, but were down by 1.1% excluding pass through items, largely due to lower variable commissions and our cost savings initiatives. These expenses were partially offset by acquisitions and the recent hiring of revenue generating professionals. Non compensation expenses excluding pass through items were up $10,600,000 due to a $6,000,000 increase in interest expense on our GSE warehouse lines, which was offset with interest income on the GSE loans held for sale.

Speaker 3

Non compensation expenses also include the addition of Gerald E. We remain on track to complete our $75,000,000 cost savings plan by the end of the second quarter. Turning to earnings. Adjusted earnings per share were $0.15 and our adjusted EBITDA was $63,500,000 Our fully diluted weighted average share count was 255,400,000 compared with 249,800,000 in the Q4 of 2023. 1,900,000 shares of this increase relates to the accelerated recognition under GAAP of RSUs due to the 38.5% increase in our average share price per share quarter on quarter.

Speaker 3

We expect our fully diluted weighted average share count to decline for the balance of the year and to grow by approximately 2% as compared to our 2023 weighted average of $246,300,000 Turning to the balance sheet. The company has no near term debt maturities. In January, we issued $600,000,000 of 7.5 percent senior notes through January 2029 and last week we extended our $600,000,000 credit facility through April of 2027. We ended the quarter with $140,900,000 of cash and cash equivalents. Change from year end included $59,800,000 of cash generated by the business and $125,000,000 of incremental corporate debt, offset by $161,100,000 primarily related to the hiring of revenue generating professionals.

Speaker 3

Moving to guidance. Our outlook for full year 2024 remains largely unchanged. We continue to expect sequential and year over year improvement in earnings in the second and third quarters. And with that, I would like to open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank And our first question will come from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning down there. Just a few questions. First off, if you can just give a little bit more color about the leasing and maybe in REIT land we're clouded by a small subset, but a number of the companies had some really good leasing metrics. And just curious how your leasing compares to what we're seeing on the REIT side, which would be accounting for the significant drop off?

Speaker 5

So Alex, this is Lou Alvarado. Look, a lot of this is timing, right? We had a really solid Q4. We closed a lot of large transactions in that quarter. At Q1, we had fewer transactions and some slipped.

Speaker 5

We expect sequential improvement as we go throughout the year. And our pipeline and activity is solid. So I just see this as a timing issue for us for the Q1.

Speaker 4

Okay. No, that's helpful, Lou. The second question is, Barry, we always it seems like you have to go back to the RTC days to see like a deluge of distressed products strewn on the street for people to transact in. And since the GFC, we haven't really seen large scale distress in the market. It's a transaction here or there.

Speaker 4

And lately, at least from what the REITs are talking about, the transaction market's been really thin because a lot of banks, it seems, aren't forcing owners to transact. And with all the money on the sideline, it seems like those who may want to transact realize that there's a strong bid for their product, even if it's a negative leverage. So how do you envision the world playing out on the transaction front? Do you think it's the regulators that really are going easy on the owners, on the banks, and therefore they're not forcing deals to come to market? Or what do you think has to happen that we start to see more transactions come about?

Speaker 2

Well, every cycle is different. This one is different. The playbook of the Fed has been uniquely designed for each cycle. At the bank level, it's there's a concern inside banks as to whether they want to open up the hood and say, okay, we want to sell these loans because if there is a focus or a magnifying glass on some of their riskier loans, they're concerned about deposits. So it's sort of a little bit of a Kabuki dance around that, but ultimately it all plays out.

Speaker 2

There is, as I said, dollars 929,000,000,000 of maturities and $2,000,000,000,000 over the next few years. And all those are going to play into you'll see the special servicers continue to pick up business. As maturities come due, the question for any owner in the world that is either underwater makes the considers how much money is he going to invest in re tenanting and growing, keeping the building versus how much whether he should give the keys back or refinance or sell. And that's going to all play out. We're seeing it.

Speaker 2

We're seeing more loan sales. We're seeing more discussions about properties that are distressed on creative ways and creative solutions to for the borrowers to be able to live and extend and for the lenders to keep their properties from hitting them open market. There are many ways to do that and we're seeing all of it. So there is no one fix, but if the volume of business is there, the opportunity is there and it is just a question of exactly when and how, but it will happen.

Speaker 4

So let me just follow-up on that. Is there and I'm assuming the you're going to tell me the answer is yes, Alex. You guys are positioned not only in absolute transactions, whether it's property or loans, but you're also in the advisory of help of working with the banks, working with the owners that even if there's not a transaction, you're getting in there and helping to advise on restructuring even if nothing comes about, meaning the loan or the building doesn't trade. But you have a team that helps that sort of internal advisory stuff, correct?

Speaker 2

Absolutely. We have a team that specializes in looking at risk assessment and stress testing within banks. We have lots of different parts of our business, servicing, loan screening, asset management that could help institutions that are lending money to flex up and flex down. We've been we built this company for this moment And a lot of that requires infrastructure and people who are experts at being able to navigate that. So it's a combination of more bespoke unique creative solutions to from the borrower's perspective to avoid recapture, keep the building, get new fresh money and for the lenders to be able to restructure the deals, get new money into the equation.

Speaker 2

There are some indications, the CMBS market on a floating rate is opening up, which indicates there is and it's more in the private sector that there is money. If once there is money available and you hit a place where maybe it's not negative leverage, but even with the opportunity for interest rates to decline and cap rates to rise, there are so many triggers and levers that create moments of opportunity, but there also is that wall of money on the positive side that is ready and sitting there looking for the moment when opportunity is to strike.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Barry.

Operator

Thank you. And before we head to our next question, as a reminder to our audience, that is star 1 to join the queue. Our next question comes from Jade Rahmani with KBW.

Speaker 2

Hi. This is actually Jason Safran on for Jade. It would be great to hear you touch on interesting growth areas that you're looking at beyond Capital Markets. Well, we've hired some great leasing talent in the last 6 months. I mean, if you saw in the report, we've spent $161,000,000 in the quarter, our largest ever in the acquisition of Talend and it's not all Capital Markets.

Speaker 2

There was a reason we pivoted to Capital Markets. The follow on halo business that comes along with it in every aspect will bring leasing business, will bring financing business. We do we have one had some really good wins in corporate services. We are adding to our global footprint, which then makes it more with us more accessible to the large global corporate clients. So we're doing all the things as we focus on capital markets to build that with a determined intentional goal to be number 1, we have the same goal with leasing and tenant rep and multi market occupiers advisory business.

Speaker 2

So it's like everything we've done, it's basically a work in progress. We continue to elevate the brand. It's a good place for the talented brokers. We know the interest around the system. We're seeing a lot of people who are interested in coming to us.

Speaker 2

As the brand elevates, it actually is easier and better and less costly for us to bring in talent. So it's all a work in progress. Great. Thank you for the color.

Operator

Thank you. And it does appear that there are no further questions at this time. Mr. Gosin, I will turn the conference back to you for any closing or additional remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you all for joining us this quarter. I'm very excited about the prospects of our future and look forward to seeing you at the next quarter.

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