CT Real Estate Investment Trust Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 7, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning. My name is Justin, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to C. T. REIT's Q1 2024 Earnings Results Conference Call.

Operator

All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. The speakers on the call today are Kevin Salzberg, President and Chief Executive Officer of C. T. REIT Jody Spiegelgel, Senior Vice President, Real Estate and Leslie Gibson, Chief Financial Officer.

Operator

Today's discussion may include forward looking statements. Such statements are based on management's assumptions and beliefs. These forward looking statements are subject to uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. Please see CT REIT's public filings for a discussion of these risk factors, which are included in their 2023 MD and A and 2023 AIF, which can be found on CTE REIT's website on SEDAR. I will now turn the call over to Kevin Salzberg, President and Chief Executive Officer of CTE REIT.

Operator

Kevin?

Speaker 1

Thank you, Justin. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to C. T. REIT's Q1 investor conference call. I thought I would start the call with a little color with respect to what we are seeing in the market currently.

Speaker 1

With respect to the economy at large, growth remains muted. Inflation has tempered, but it's still above the target rates set by our central bank, and housing affordability continues to become further out of reach for average Canadians, driven by high levels of immigration over the last few years, elevated construction costs and excessively long time frames that are required to complete new development. For some time now, market prognosticators have been considering when interest rate cuts will begin and by how much we should expect rates to decline. The answers to these questions continue to seem uncertain and something to be determined at some point in the future. A lack of clarity driven by the aforementioned factors continues to constrain the property markets and transaction volumes remain relatively muted.

Speaker 1

Fundamentals for retail real estate, however, have been strong as increased population translates into new customers for our tenants and the high cost to build coupled with the conversion of commercial assets into residential development sites have fueled a supply demand imbalance that has favored landlords of late. Despite the turmoil of this mixed market, CTE continues to perform and our Q1 2024 results are yet another example of the stability, reliability and growth that we have delivered to date, irrespective of market conditions. From our successful IPO through our initial phase of growth to the COVID-nineteen pandemic and the more recent challenging economic conditions, CTE REIT has proven its resilience time and again. In the Q1, our durability and performance were once again on full display and I'm pleased to report that we achieved growth in net operating income or NOI of 5.6%, growth in same property NOI of 4.1% and growth in diluted AFFO per unit of 4.8%. All in all, a great start to the year.

Speaker 1

On the back of these strong results, we were pleased to announce that for the 10th straight year, our Board of Trustees has approved yet another increase to our distributions. The 3% increase is the 11th since our IPO and represents a cumulative increase of 42.3% over that time, which is a true testament of our success and stability over the last 10 plus years. An investor who has been with us since our inception would now be enjoying a 9.25 percent yield on their initial investment based on our new distribution rate. And our future continues to look bright. We have over 740,000 square feet of gross leasable area in our development pipeline, comprising 1 new Canadian Tire Store development, 16 Canadian Tire Store Expansions, 1 Redevelopment and 1 site intensification for 3rd party tenants.

Speaker 1

With respect to our balance sheet, our low leverage, strong coverage ratios and liquidity position us well to manage our way through this higher for longer rate environment. We only have one debt maturity this year, a $200,000,000 series of Class C LP units that Canadian Tire holds that will be reset effective June 1, 2024 for an additional 5 years at a rate of 5.43 percent and we have no other upcoming debt maturities until midway through 2025. The strength of our balance sheet, the visibility of our cash flows and our embedded growth all make CTE REIT a very attractive option for investors as we continue to navigate these choppy waters. I'll now turn it over to Jody and Leslie to provide some additional details on the quarter, our results and our investment leasing and development activities. Jody?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. As highlighted in our press release yesterday, we were pleased to announce one new investment this quarter. This new investment relates to the expansion of an existing Canadian Tire store located in Donaconna, Quebec. It is anticipated that this 11.1 $1,000,000 investment will be completed by the end of 2025 at a going in yield of 7%. In Q1, we continued to focus on our existing development pipeline.

Speaker 2

Building on the significant progress made in 2023, the REIT currently has 20 projects at various stages of development with 3 of these expected to be completed this year and most of the balance expected to be completed in 20252026. These developments represent a total committed investment of approximately $287,000,000 upon completion, dollars 96,000,000 of which has already been spent and $52,000,000 of which we anticipate will be spent in the next 12 months. Once built, these projects will add in total incremental gross leasable area of approximately 742,000 square feet to the portfolio, 93.8 percent of which has been pre leased at quarter end. During the quarter, we extended 1 Canadian Tire store lease, while maintaining a nearly fully occupied portfolio, with occupancy rate now reaching 99.5%. As at the end of Q1, the weighted average lease term for our portfolio was 8.2 years, which remains one of the longest in the sector.

Speaker 2

With that, I will turn it over to Leslie to discuss our financial results.

Speaker 3

Leslie? Thanks, Jody, and good morning, everyone. As Kevin highlighted, we are pleased with the strong results delivered by the REIT again this quarter. Reflecting on the solid growth within the portfolio, same store NOI grew 3.0 percent or 3.2 escalations of $1,400,000 primarily being the 1.5% average annual escalations, including the Canadian Tire leases, with the balance of the growth primarily from continued recovery of capital expenditures and interest earned on the unrecovered balance, which contributed approximately $1,900,000 to NOI in the quarter. Same property NOI grew by 4.1 percent or $4,400,000 compared to the prior year.

Speaker 3

This was due to the increase in the same store NOI noted as well as from the intensifications completed in 2023. Overall in the Q1, NOI grew by a healthy 5.6 percent or $6,100,000 driven by the increase in same property NOI and the completion of development projects in 2023. In the Q1, excluding fair value adjustments, G and A expense as a percentage of property revenue was 3.7%, which is higher than the same period in the prior year of 3.0%. This increase was primarily due to the timing of the deferred income tax provision amounting to $503,000 which is expected to reverse over the balance of the year. The fair value adjustment of $23,600,000 in the quarter was mainly driven by contractual rent escalations and leasing activity within the portfolio during the period.

Speaker 3

Investment metrics for the portfolio remained unchanged relative to the 2023 year end. In the quarter, diluted FFO per unit was up 3.4 percent to $0.331 compared to $0.32 in the Q1 of 2023. This growth can be primarily attributed to the intensifications and developments completed during 2023 and the increased recovery of capital expenditures and interest earned on the unrecovered balance as well as contractual rent escalations from Canadian Tire stores, other CTC banners and 3rd party tenant leases, partially offset by higher interest costs. The growth in AFFO per unit on a diluted basis was strong for the same reasons, coming in at $0.308 up 4.8% compared to the Q1 of 2023. Distributions in the quarter increased by 3.5% compared to the same period in the previous year.

Speaker 3

As Kevin already mentioned, we were pleased to announce a 3% increase to the monthly distribution effective with the July 2024 payment to unitholders. This is the 11th such increase, and we're pleased to have been able to raise our distribution at least once per year since IPO. AFFO payout ratio for Q1 was 73.1%, slightly lower than the payout ratio of 73.8% in the same period last year. This decrease was attributed to the growth in the diluted AFFO per unit, outpacing increase in the distribution per unit. In Q1 2024, we continued repurchasing a modest amount of units through our NCIB facility, buying back approximately 3,000,000 dollars of our units below the intrinsic value at an average price of $13.92 Now turning to the balance sheet.

Speaker 3

Our interest coverage ratio was 3.57 times for the current quarter compared to 3.70 times in the comparable quarter of 2023. The decrease was mainly driven by the increase in interest expense and other financing charges outpacing the growth in the EBIT fair value. The indebtedness to EBIT fair value ratio improved to 6.64 times, down from 6.83 times in Q1 of 2023, primarily because the growth of EBIT fair value outpaced the increase in indebtedness. Our indebtedness ratio was up slightly to 41.4 percent from 40.7% in the same quarter of last year, due to the issuance of the Series 1 debentures, partially offset by an increase in fair value of the investment properties. Our indebtedness ratio continues to be within our target range.

Speaker 3

And considering the current macroeconomic backdrop and interest rate environment, we're pleased with the strength of our balance sheet. Lastly, with respect to liquidity, we ended Q1 with $50,000,000 of cash on hand and $297,000,000 remains available to our committed credit facility. A further $300,000,000 is available on our uncommitted facility with Canadian Tire Corporation. And with that, I will turn it back to the operator for any questions.

Operator

And thank you. And our first question comes from Sam Damiani from TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. First question, I guess, is probably one I've asked before, which is just what's your vision for growth over the next decade given the smaller pool of Canadian Tire and 3rd party owned real estate that could come available or be shaken loose? And what is the REIT's appetite for materially diversifying the tenant base beyond Canadian Tire going forward?

Speaker 1

Yes. Good morning, Sam. I'm not sure I would characterize the pool as shrinking or smaller. I think we're at a point in time where both the Reed and Canadian Tire are being a little bit more prudent with our capital allocation and spend. There's projects that we're still interested in pursuing, but they've been perhaps deferred or delayed a little bit just in the interest of, seeing where the market takes us.

Speaker 1

Still think there's a huge amount of opportunity pursuing those opportunities that we surface through our relationship with Canadian Tire. We are always opportunistic about what's out there in the market and looking to add to our net lease portfolio unrelated to Canadian Tire, but pricing relative to cost of funds for the last little while have been the disconnect has just been too large. And then in terms of diversification, I think, as you've seen in our 1st decade, it's something that happens almost naturally in the sense that as we buy or develop more things that have components that are Canadian Tire related, There is also often third party tendencies within those assets. But that's often offset by the amount of Canadian Tire related activity that we've done. So on percentage terms, hasn't really moved the needle all that much.

Speaker 1

So certainly could ebb and flow as time goes on up or down, but diversification in and of itself is not a current strategic objective for the REIT. We have continued to lean into the opportunities that we glean through our relationship with Canadian Tire. And over time, if those opportunities change, we will certainly be open to a wider mix of tenancies. But I think in the entire for the foreseeable future will make up the vast majority of the REITs portfolio.

Speaker 4

That's great. I really appreciate that. Very helpful. I guess just on Canadian Tire related growth, like could you quantify the potential opportunity in the next 3 to 5 years? What kind of trajectory do you think is possible or range of trajectories are possible?

Speaker 1

Well, a couple of years ago, when Canyon Tire came out with their better connected strategy, there was a pretty large capital envelope that came along with that over a 3 to 5 year period, call it. And we made pretty good headway eating into that bucket. Our CapEx spend over the last 3 years has been slightly higher than our average, I would say. And the go forward, I think it all depends when consumer spending sort of recovers. I think there is still a belief that Canadian Tire, over time wants to improve their store and supply chain networks.

Speaker 1

And when I say improve, expand the size of their stores, bring it up to their current prototype, expand the availability of different fulfillment channels, buy online, pick up in store, greater showrooming, all the things that we've talked about in the past. So I think it's a large opportunity set. I think it's just going to take longer to effect. We still have a number of engines we can do over time from Canadian Tire probably. We've estimated the pipeline there at 15 to 20 sites.

Speaker 1

When we choose to work with the entire and trying to buy those assets is market dependent. And also where we are within our growth stage and our desire to allocate capital in a given year. So no specific guidance there, but those assets also remain available for the REIT to consider purchasing over time.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. And last one for me. Just on the NCIB, it's been pretty steady sort of programmatic approach over the last few quarters. Just wondering, is there an appetite to materially step up that activity to take advantage of the current publicly traded valuation?

Speaker 1

I wouldn't say materially, Sam. I mean, that's something we've talked about in past quarters as well. Hard to consider the trade off between supporting the units, showing the market we believe we're trading at too wide a discount to our net asset value. But also, we understand that our investors are really interested actually in us increasing our flow than increasing our liquidity, which is something we're also desirous of over the long term. So I think what we've done is try to take a modest approach to supporting our unit price, and that's probably what you'll continue to see from us for the next couple of quarters.

Speaker 4

That's great. Thank you very much for answering those. Take care.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Andrew.

Operator

And thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Lorne Kalmar from Desjardins. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning, everybody. Just on the I know you don't have a lot of lease maturities coming up this year in 2025, but it looks like the majority of them are 3rd party or non CTC leases. I was just wondering, given the strength you mentioned in retail, what type of lifts are you getting on the ones you've done so far and sort of expecting to get done on the remainder through 2025?

Speaker 2

Good morning. It's Jody. Just to answer your question, so we had a fair number of renewals this quarter that, as you noted, are 3rd party, renewed. And roughly speaking, we're seeing low double digit spreads on those renewals. And I think we can expect to see that continue just based on the supply constrained market and the fact that tenants are looking to renew.

Speaker 2

So we're getting the benefit of that. Okay.

Speaker 5

And then you'll have to forgive me because I don't remember exactly what the typical lift is on a CTC lease, but given the broader strength in the market, is there any room to push that beyond current levels when there's some chunkier renewals coming up in 'twenty six and beyond?

Speaker 1

Yes. Lauren, historically, we've continued on the average 1.5% rent escalations that we enjoyed in the initial term through extension periods. Certainly, the 1.5% as it relates to what is what we're seeing in the leasing market right now has been a hot topic for us and something we've engaged with in the entire end. There's been a bit of a unique attribute to the first couple of sets of renewals that we've had to deal with through 2023 2024 and that is that they've been heavily skewed to smaller markets. I think as we get into the 2025 and 2026 renewals, it's more of an even mix between smaller markets and urban markets.

Speaker 1

And certainly, in those larger centers where we're seeing higher renewal spreads, that's something we'll be addressing with Canadian Tire.

Speaker 5

Okay. So there might be some potential to see some the lifts pick up a little bit?

Speaker 1

Yes. I mean, you have to also appreciate the 1.5% is the average over 29 or 25,000,000 square feet of the entire store. So rolling over 5%, 6% a year, it will take some time for that average to move. But that doesn't mean it's not a worthwhile endeavor and something we're not going to talk to Canadian Tire Bank.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. And then I did notice, I think outside of the one you guys highlighted in the press release, there was another project Winkler in Manitoba, I think that was added to the pipeline. I was just wondering maybe you could give a little more color on that project.

Speaker 2

Yes. So as in Q4, we added Winkler. And this year, we added it to the PUD table. So that's a mall in Winkler, Manitoba. It's Canadian Tire anchored, and there's an enclosed mall.

Speaker 2

And so the development relates to the enclosed mall portion of that property.

Speaker 5

Right. Thank you. Thank you for the reminder. And then just last quick little one for me. The capped interest came down a little bit.

Speaker 5

I think that's probably not entirely unexpected. Is that sort of a good run rate going forward given the $52,000,000 development spend over the next 12 months?

Speaker 3

Yes, Lauren, it's Leslie. That probably is given where we expect developments in the development spend to go for the balance of the year.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. Thank you so much for taking my questions. I'll turn it back.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

And thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Pammi Baier from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Thanks. Good morning. Kevin, you mentioned DFO is still limited and pricing is still disconnected. Can you maybe just talk about maybe what you have seen in terms of maybe what's come your way, maybe any transactions that you have looked at? What sort of pricing have you seen?

Speaker 6

And just curious, what types of assets are these or even the vendor types? I know there's a lot in there, but just any additional color on the transaction side?

Speaker 1

It's been a strange market, to be honest, Pammi. It's a little bifurcated right now. You're seeing some assets that are out of favor trade. We've seen some office trades in the last quarter. You've seen a lot of interest still in grocery anchored essential need retail, but there's not a lot out there to buy right now.

Speaker 1

Multifamily is obviously still very active, probably, I would think the most active of the asset classes. So different pools of capital chasing different things, different buyer perspectives in terms of whether it's a good time to sell or not. We've seen a couple of net lease sites that we've looked at, single tenant, I would say mid market stuff. But we've been surprised by the degree to which we've been off on pricing. We have a view on risk and we are others who are looking at assets very differently.

Speaker 1

So I think that disconnect is real and there's a couple of things we've gone down the line on. And like I said, we've just been surprised the degree to which we've been off on pricing.

Speaker 6

Got it. In terms of just one last one for me, the occupancy pickup this quarter, and I think Jody mentioned it, was that partly driven by the shift of Winkler into properties under development? I'm just curious on the retail side that I think it was a 40 basis point pickup.

Speaker 1

Yes, that's correct, Pammi. It's basically just the move of the asset into PUD.

Speaker 6

Okay. And then just on Canada Square, a bit of an uptick there as well. Was that some leasing that was completed in the quarter or?

Speaker 1

It was. I would describe it as short term leasing, though. It wouldn't be anything to write home about necessarily.

Speaker 6

Okay. So no big change in terms of the near term releasing of some of that vacancy?

Speaker 1

No. We're still sticking with our asset plan and the degree to which we can hold on to short term income for longer is great, but still maintaining that flexibility to have access to the site to redevelopment.

Speaker 6

Got it. Thanks very much.

Operator

And thank you. As there are no further questions at this time, I would like to turn the call over to Kevin Salzberg, President and CEO for closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Justin, and thank you all for joining us today. We look forward to welcome you to our Annual Meeting of Unitholders, which we will conduct virtually later this morning at 10 am. We hope that you'll be able to listen in, and we look forward to speaking with you again in August after we release our Q2 results. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.

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