RingCentral Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the RingCentral First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in a listen only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference over to Will Wong, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, and welcome to RingCentral's Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today are Vlad Shmunis, Founder, Chairman and CEO and Sonali Parekh, CFO. Our format today will include prepared remarks by Vlad and Sonali followed by Q and A. We also have a slide presentation available on our Investor Relations website that will coincide with today's call, which you can find under the Financial Results section at ir. Ringcentral.com.

Speaker 1

Some of our discussion and responses to your questions will contain forward looking statements regarding the company's business operations, financial performance and outlook. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond our control and are not guarantees of future performance. Actual results may differ materially from our forward looking statements, and we undertake no obligation to update these statements after this call. For a complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties related to our business, please refer to the information contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission as well as today's earnings release. Unless otherwise indicated, all measures that follow are non GAAP with year over year comparisons.

Speaker 1

A reconciliation of all GAAP to non GAAP results is provided with our earnings release and in the slide deck. For certain forward looking guidance, a reconciliation of the non GAAP financial guidance to the corresponding GAAP measure is not available as discussed in detail in the slide deck posted on our Investor Relations website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Vlad.

Speaker 2

Good afternoon, and welcome to our Q1 conference call. We had a solid start to the year. In Q1, total revenue rose 9% to $584,000,000 above the high end of our outlook. ARR rose 10% to $2,400,000,000 with enterprise up 13% for the 4th consecutive quarter. Consistent with our strategy of driving profitable growth, we delivered a record quarter of profitability with operating margin rising to approximately 21%, which was well above our outlook for Q1.

Speaker 2

I'm also proud of the material progress we have made on reducing stock based compensation as we have delivered another quarter of year over year improvement in SBC as a percent of revenue. Our execution in driving profitable growth has already resulted in an approximately 4x year over year increase in non GAAP operating profit less SBC. Improvements in SBC combined with our share repurchase program is expected to result in our full year fully diluted share count declining year over year for the first time in our history. Speaking of making history, I'm excited to share that in Q1, we signed our largest UCaaS seat deal ever. We won a competitive RFP and sold 40,000 seats to a Fortune 500 retailer with over $20,000,000,000 in revenue.

Speaker 2

With RingCentral, this customer will be able to address their main pain points, which include dropped calls, long hold time, inadequate call reporting and lack of advanced voice features. In this mega deal win, RingCentral will be replacing their legacy solution, Skype for Business, demonstrating our ability to win against Teams phone while operating within the Teams ecosystem. In fact, the majority of our enterprise customers have Teams and in Q1 more than half of our large $1,000,000 TCV deals were to customers that are utilizing our solution integrated with and alongside Microsoft Teams. Importantly, this win was in one of our gold verticals, which include healthcare, financial and professional services, retail and public sector. We are mission critical in this vertical and we win given our unmatched reliability, ability to solve complex use cases, our integrated UCaaS and TCaaS platforms and our thousands of available integrations.

Speaker 2

This vertical has been a key growth driver, especially in enterprise. And we believe that there are at least 100,000,000 seats in this vertical that we can convert over time. Let me now give you more color on why we win, which is centered around our guiding principles of trust, innovation and partnerships or TIP as we call it. 1st, trust. We achieved 5 9s uptime for the 23rd straight quarter.

Speaker 2

In fact, over the past year, we've reached a new milestone of 69s. Our cloud platform is carrier grade, secure, standards compliant and battle tested and continues to be a wide competitive mode and the key differentiator. Another core strength is our ability to solve complex use cases and integrate into customers commonly used horizontal and vertical specific applications, especially in our gold verticals. We offer these customers a large breadth of business communications API as well as industry specific integration, workflows and certification. For example, within the healthcare vertical, we integrate into patient data management applications such as Epic and Cerner as well as meet Hytrot and HIPAA compliance requirements.

Speaker 2

These customers can create workflows based on their specific needs of their businesses. For example, healthcare providers can use RingCentral's API to send prescriptions directly to the pharmacy system electronically and automatically trigger appointment reminders via SMS. Additionally, our market leading UCaaS solution integrated with a CCaaS platform supports a wide variety of use cases and is also a vital differentiator. With RingCentral, companies have the ability to streamline workflows with our advanced tools and integration. This was a key factor in why Sanitas, a Fortune 500 operator of medical centers in the U.

Speaker 2

S. Selected RingCentral this quarter to power its communications platform. With RingCentral, Sanitas will be able to provide their customers with the unified, seamless experience across integration, budget, scheduling, billing and general inquiries. We believe this should drive increased revenue and patient retention from improved customer experiences as well as lower costs from the increase in employee efficiency that our industry leading integrated UCaaS and CCaaS platform provides. These are just two examples of our robust progress in new customer acquisition activity in Q1.

Speaker 2

But equally as important is our ability to retain existing customers and maximize customer lifetime value. On this point, our renewed focus on customer care is resulting in improved gross retention and better NPS scores. The combination of better gross retention, improving macro trends and the introduction of our new products should drive higher net retention going forward. Now on to innovation. This past quarter, we announced a name change of our flagship industry leading With this change, we are signaling our commitment to continuous innovation based on emerging generative AI technologies.

Speaker 2

We started off on a high note with RingX with Ring Sense AI as we won the overall Best of Enterprise Connect award in March. One key reason we won is because of our differentiated industry first real time AI for voice interaction. With this feature, users are able to capture key decisions and track action items in real time, enabling on Spark referencing and heightened accuracy. It is early days, but users are already seeing significant time savings. For example, one customer highlighted that for an average 20 minute call, real time notes saves them 5 minutes post call, while also keeping all their notes attached to the contact to allow for easy referencing in future interactions.

Speaker 2

Voice driven data historically has been largely inaccessible at scale as the data has been siloed. With RingCentral AI now being an integral part of RingCentral, we empower customers to take advantage of the billions of minutes of conversations that take place on our platform. Our customers will thus be able to automate manual tasks, unlock deeper insights and create more streamlined employee and customer workflows. Continuing on the theme of innovation, let me now share progress on our new products. First, Ring CX, our AI powered contact center, which is simple to use and easy to deploy and which provides agents with all in one capabilities across 20 plus digital channels, automatic screen pops, contact matching in the CRM, case and ticket creation and interaction logging for all voice and digital interaction, all from an intuitive user interface.

Speaker 2

We now have over 200 RingCS customers almost doubled versus Q4 2023. RingCX is now available in 6 countries: the U. S, Canada, the UK, France, Germany and most recently Australia. In fact, one of our newest RigCS customers is from outside the U. S.

Speaker 2

Rosaram Metropolitan Borough Council in the United Kingdom. They purchased over 200 Ring CX seats and over 3,000 Ring EX licenses in Q1. 2 key factors for Arwin. 1, our unmatched reliability as a prior cloud provider has consistent outages and 2, our fully integrated Ring ES and Ring CS solution. They will be using Ring CS to provide a range of services for their almost 300,000 residents, including addressing incoming social care, planning, housing and business regulation and enforcement questions.

Speaker 2

We are rapidly innovating with RingCS. We added over 300 features in Q1, bringing the total to over 1,000. Among the new features of Rig CF are native integration into Salesforce, HubSpot, ServiceNow, Zendesk and Microsoft Dynamics. We have also opened the RingCX platform to enable a growing ecosystem of partners such as Google, Dialogflow, Agnigy, Yellow dotai, Balto and Calabrio. Our strength in voice, ease of deployment, use and maintenance and our attractive pricing and packaging give us confidence that we will continue to see positive results from Brink CF going forward.

Speaker 2

We also continue to see good traction with RingCS for sale, our first product in the RingCS portfolio. We have more than doubled our customer count sequentially in Q1 to over 600. Many customers are benefiting from the automated interaction summary, follow-up notifications, call scoring, sentiment analysis and performance management. This frees up salespeople's time, allowing them to focus on selling Zorces performing administrative tasks. For example, an insurance agency in the Midwest is using the AI driven insight for ring sensor sales to gain visibility into what's working and not working in the agency's sales and client services practices.

Speaker 2

RingSense is able to monitor and glean insights from all their voice data, tone, word choice, energy, sentiment, helping the customer identify valuable insights they would not have caught by listening to a random selection of agent conversation. And within our own sales organization, we are seeing BrinkSensor sales deliver both productivity and efficiency gains. Our employees are now able to save at least 2 hours a week or about 1 full workday a month from using RingCentral's automated note summary features. That is one extra day to speak with customers and potentially win more deals. Lastly, events, which provides us with the opportunity to expand into new personas outside of our typical base, including line of business decision makers.

Speaker 2

RingCentral Events saw a roughly 25% sequential increase in new logos in the quarter. New AI feature for events such as AI writer and QA categorization further enhance the value that customers receive. These features also continue to differentiate RingCentral from the competition and were important contributors to customers such as the Detroit Pistons, Vanderbilt University, a Fortune 50 technology company and one of the largest media companies in the world selecting RingCentral event during the Q1. Last but not least, partnerships, which are a key to continue to scale our multiproduct business. We have a diverse network of partners, which includes over 15,000 channel partners, a number of large strategic OEM partners, AWS and some of the largest global service providers, which include AT and T, BT, Charter Communications, Deutsche Telekom, TELUS and Vodafone.

Speaker 2

We also continue to expand this network and announced our new partnership with Optus, Australia's 2nd largest provider of telecommunications services during the Q1. GSPs are a key growth driver for RingCentral and are growing above our overall growth rate. We saw good traction with this cohort in Q1, including with Vodafone, where we won a 1,000 seed plus deal with a large European retailer. Regarding Avaya, they continue to be the world's largest holder of on prem UC and CC seats. RingCentral continues to be Avaya's exclusive UCaaS provider and in Q1 we extended the term of our multiyear agreement and enhanced our GTM and innovation collaboration model.

Speaker 2

We expect to work even more closely with Avaya to position, market and sell Avaya Cloud Office by RingCentral to the millions of existing Avaya on prem users. Stay tuned for additional joint product announcements at the upcoming Avaya Engage Conference next week. We believe that as a whole, our broad partner network will be an important contributor to our continued profitable growth. In closing, Q1 was solid. We are executing on all our strategic priorities.

Speaker 2

Our core growth is stabilizing, our new products are demonstrating traction, our SBC is improving and our free cash flow is expanding, demonstrating the strength of our business and its inherent profitability. I am very excited about our future. With that, let me turn the call over to Sandra.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Vlad. I'll provide highlights from the Q1 and then discuss our business outlook for the Q2 full year. In Q1, subscription revenue of $557,000,000 was up 10% year over year, above the high end of our guidance range. ARR of $2,370,000,000 was up 10% versus last year. On a year over year basis, currency was neutral, while on a sequential basis, currency represented an almost $10,000,000 headwind.

Speaker 3

Enterprise ARR continues to perform well and rose 13% versus last year to $1,020,000,000 We saw good traction with large customers, winning many $1,000,000 plus TCV deals in our gold verticals. As Vlad highlighted, this includes a new Fortune 500 retailer that has committed to spending more than 8 figures with us over the next few years. Now moving to profitability. I'll be referring to non GAAP results unless otherwise noted. Subscription gross margin was 82%, consistent with prior quarters.

Speaker 3

Overall ARPU was again above $30 Our new product ARPUs are solidly higher than current overall ARPUs. Over time, we expect new products to become increasingly accretive to overall ARPU and retention. Operating margin rose 350 basis points versus last year to 20.7 percent, solidly above our guidance of 19.5%. The outperformance was driven by upside to our revenue guidance as well as the timing of certain operating expenses. Importantly, we continue to remain disciplined in our spending, in particular within sales and marketing.

Speaker 3

Moving to free cash flow. We are now reporting and will guide to free cash flow, defined as net cash provided by operating activities less capitalized expenditures. This more closely reflects the cash flow generation of our business in a given period and includes cash paid for interest and other non recurring items such as restructuring, which we will call out separately. In the Q1 of 2024, we generated free cash flow of $77,000,000 This is net of cash paid for interest of $23,000,000 dollars and non recurring payments of $15,000,000 as well as $10,000,000 of cash received from certain strategic partners. Excluding the impact of interest and these non recurring items, free cash flow would have been $105,000,000 compared to $61,000,000 in the Q1 of 2023, representing over 70% growth.

Speaker 3

Moving to stock based compensation. As a percent of total revenue, stock based compensation fell to 15.6 percent, down 3.40 basis points versus last year. We also remain disciplined on stock grants to both new and existing employees and continue to expect new grants net forfeitures in 2024 to be about half of 2023 levels. Moving to our balance sheet. During the quarter, we repurchased 2,400,000 shares or CAD80 1,000,000 under the plans previously authorized by our Board of Directors.

Speaker 3

Recently, our Board increased our repurchase authorization by an incremental CAD250 1,000,000 We currently have approximately CAD375 1,000,000 remaining on our total authorization. Given our current valuation, strong and growing free cash flow and the significant progress we have made to bring down our leverage, we believe that share repurchase provides an attractive relative return. Moving to our convert. We had $161,000,000 of our 20.25 convertible notes outstanding on March 31. There is no change in our plan shared last quarter to utilize our existing liquidity sources and a portion of our free cash flow to retire the 2025 convert prior to its maturity date in March 2025.

Speaker 3

Our net leverage ratio, which declined year over year by over one turn to 2.5x at the end of Q1 2024 continues to trend downwards as we expand our adjusted EBITDA and reduce gross debt. Our low and improving leverage ratio, strong BB credit rating, significant liquidity and strong free cash flow growth gives us flexibility and a range of alternatives for addressing our 2026 convertible notes. Now, let me turn to guidance. Embedded in our guidance is the expectation that the macro environment and current business trends remain relatively stable, with no further material improvement or deterioration in conditions. With that backdrop, for the Q2 of 2024, we expect subscription revenue growth of 9%, total revenue growth of 8% to 9%, non GAAP operating margin of 20.7 percent, flat versus the Q1 of 2024 and non GAAP EPS of $0.87 to $0.88 For the full year, we are raising our revenue outlook to reflect our Q1 revenue outperformance.

Speaker 3

We now expect subscription revenue of $2,267,000,000 to $2,287,000,000 representing growth of 8% to 9 percent and total revenue of 2 point $379,000,000,000 to $2,399,000,000 representing annual growth of 8% to 9%. We continue to expect non GAAP operating margins of 21% and stock based compensation as a percentage of total revenue of approximately 16%. We are raising our non GAAP EPS to $3.59 to $3.67 up from $3.50 to $3.58 as we now expect $96,000,000 to 97,000,000 fully diluted shares outstanding in 2024, down from 98,000,000 to 99,000,000 shares previously. Regarding free cash flow, under our updated definition, we expect free cash flow of $385,000,000 to $390,000,000 Our outlook for 3.80 $5,000,000 to $390,000,000 includes cash paid for interest of $60,000,000 and cash paid for non recurring restructuring and other items of $20,000,000 as well as $25,000,000 of cash received from certain strategic partners. Excluding interest and these non recurring items, we are raising our free cash flow outlook from 415 to 420,000,000 to 440,000,000 to 445,000,000 up 25,000,000 from our prior outlook.

Speaker 3

Our updated free cash flow guidance reflects the benefit we are seeing from better cash collections and lower commissions. We are also benefiting from a shift to annual upfront billings for some contact center customers. In summary, we had a strong start to the year and are raising our revenue and free cash flow outlook. Our leading differentiated products and unique go to market combined with our scale and laser focus on driving profitability and free cash flow position us well for creating long term shareholder value. With that, let's open up the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. First question comes from Kash Rangan of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi. Thank you very much with Goldman Sachs. Vlad, question for you. It looks like enterprise ARR is growing faster than the overall company. It looks like that's an area of relative strength for the company as evidenced by the 40,000 UCaaS deal that you signed.

Speaker 4

Can you tell us what is driving the strength in the enterprise, can you tell us how sustainable is the free cash flow growth rate of the company going forward? Thank you so much.

Speaker 5

Great. Hi, Kashim. Thank you. Okay. So the first question, look, we have a good product.

Speaker 5

It continues to be an industry leading product. We continue innovating. As we mentioned, we have just and for the first time ever, won Best of the Show Overall Award at Enterprise Connect. That's a big deal and we wanted specifically on the strength of our differentiated AI offering. With respect to both enterprise as a whole, but this one particular policy deal in particular.

Speaker 5

Look, what are we known for? We're known for reliability. We are known for and this is bulletproof, not in wood. It's multiple, multiple years of Five9 availability. And now I think what about 1.5 years of Six9.

Speaker 5

That has not been matched, I don't think, in history. I can tell you, it did not come by accident. There was a lot of blood, sweat and tears that went into this over many, many years by many people, okay? And if I choose to get particular at this. Business.

Speaker 5

We have we are uniquely positioned to complex to address complex use cases. As noted in prepared remarks, we were chosen in this particular case, our reliability as well as use cases and some of the examples, ability to handle messages and just hold times in general, hold times, what's happening during the hold is a big deal for many enterprises. This one in particular is a meaningful retailer. They also have as part of their retail establishment, they host pharmacies. So what's happening during on hold times is incredibly important, and we just have better ways of handling that.

Speaker 5

But I want to turn the mic over to Sanofi here in a sec, but I also want to give you the big picture. And the big picture is why do we win this enterprise is, again, good product, robust, reliable, fully featured. But very importantly, huge amount of greenfield still left. I really want people to internalize the fact that in spite of all of the rhetoric about, oh, VJ is taking over, messaging taking over, collapse taking over, which basically we have all of those modalities as well. But voice continues to be the primary mission critical medium of communications for people and especially in our gold verticals, which includes retail, includes health care, includes financial, etcetera, we can easily see 100,000,000 seats out there.

Speaker 5

Salesforce, I think, just published a report saying that prevalent modes of C2B communications our voice and email and there's not media and messaging. And this is where we shine. And lastly, by far not least, why we continue winning there and we have stabilized our growth in double digits still is focus. There was rhetoric, as you know, relatively recently that RingCentral is abandoning enterprise. Well, this is our way of showing that's not quite We're not abandoning enterprise.

Speaker 5

We're doubling down on enterprise. We absolutely see our right to win there. And I'll tell you what, as we have focused on enterprise and we'll continue to focus, we will also be redoubling our efforts on SMB. It's been relatively underperforming in a very challenging macro for SMB, but we think that there is still a lot of juice left there. We also have a very strong position in the very strong and protectable right to win.

Speaker 5

So let's say I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll be showing good results there as well moving forward. Bernalie?

Speaker 3

Thanks a lot. And thanks, Kash, for the call out on free cash flow. Yes, we are very, very proud of what we delivered. So as you know, last year, we took really important steps to transform the profile of our cost base, and we expanded operating margins by nearly 700 basis points year over year. And the efficiencies and productivity benefits realized are now reflecting in a big way, not only on operating margin, but we're seeing it in free cash flow with if you look at where I've guided today, our unlevered adjusted free cash flow is expected to grow 34% this year.

Speaker 3

And free cash flow margins are expanding by about 3.70 basis points based on that updated guidance. So free cash flow margins are really starting to converge with operating margin. This is a trend that we sort of telegraphed because we're realizing the positive impact of the lower intensity of deferred commissions that we're amortizing over the last couple of years through the P and L. And we've also realized significant working capital efficiencies and shifting more of our long term contractual commitments to upfront payments. So the power of the growing free cash flow, coupled with our focus on driving SBC down, which hopefully you noticed as well, provides a real opportunity to drive significant free cash flow per share growth and driving that growth in excess of both revenue and overall free cash flow growth.

Speaker 3

So this year, we expect based on the midpoint of our guide on free cash flow that our free cash flow per share will grow about 36%, and that outlook has improved by about 10 percentage points since we last reported last quarter. So given the improvements in our free cash flow and the updated outlook we've given you on share count, which we now expect to reduce year over year, We hope that you will judge us on the strong free cash flow per share growth that we will continue to deliver on a sustainable basis.

Operator

The next question comes from Samad Samana of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Also honored to go after cash. So, I love the order of the Q and A. Hope you guys are doing well.

Speaker 6

Maybe first question, just Vlad, as I think about the large deal, it's obviously small in the overall context of the millions of seats that RingCentral has. But when I think about that's got to be one of your larger individual deals. So could you help us maybe double click into what the timeline looked like in terms of winning the deal? What led it maybe in terms of like the features, so on and so forth? And what they expect to roll out of a deal of this size looks like just given how big the deal is and it's a signature win?

Speaker 6

And then certainly, just I'll squeeze in a stub question for you upfront as well. It's just on the upfront billing, does that is there any discounting that's going on to drive the upfront collections? Or is that just the customers are agreeing to that and the timing doesn't really matter to them? Thank you both for taking my questions.

Speaker 5

Yes. Hi, Samed. Okay, yes, glad to have you in the call position here on the Q and A list. Okay. So as far as the deal, it wasn't one of the largest, it was our largest.

Speaker 5

So this is especially interesting given again all of the especially more recent rhetoric about our positioning in enterprise and teams and all of that. Look, as far as how long, these types of deals are generally 1 to 2 year cycles. This particular one happened to be right in the middle 18 months, okay? And it's I already mentioned some of the differentiated features. This customer is rotating out of Skype for Business.

Speaker 5

So it was a competitive RFP process. We don't always know who else is involved, but you can probably imagine the usual suspects. And as I already mentioned to cash, it really has to do with reliability and features, okay? And again, we don't think that this is such an aberration. Policy deals, there are only so many of them out there to be had.

Speaker 5

But we do have other large installments. We have 20% of GTK, which is which we count as part of our enterprise segment, so they're spending more ARR 100,000 with us. So we are very much active in large accounts. We continue this we believe that this we have a good chance to continue this being the case. And I really want to say this one more thing.

Speaker 5

Again, this is getting going back into enterprise and Teams and how do we coexist there. And we need to understand that there is Teams and then there is Teams phone. We compete with Teams Phone. And as you can see, we have some success competing against Teams Phone. We work and partner with Teams itself, okay?

Speaker 5

So we are an integral part or extension to Teams via available APIs. We provide a or support that is single payment class and that's the major strength we have really what we believe one of the best, if not the best, in the integration on the market today. So I hope that answers the question.

Speaker 3

Yes. And Samad, just similarly here. On your question with respect to discounting, no, there's nothing to call out there. It's really a mix shift. So as we grow in enterprise and the composition of enterprises total increases in our overall revenue, it tilts us to more upfront billings and longer term contracts.

Speaker 3

And that's obviously much more common in enterprise to bill upfront than, say, SMB, which is often month to month.

Operator

The next question comes from Ryan McWilliams of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Thanks for taking the question. I'll also continue with the trend of the 2 part question. One for Vlad, one for Senoli. For Vlad, just given the macro uncertainty, how does your pipeline look like for the rest of this year? And have you noticed any trends in the pipeline whether between SMB and enterprise or UCaaS and CCaaS opportunities?

Speaker 7

And then personally, nice revenue result and free cash flow step up, but looks like the non GAAP, where your operating margin guide was maintained. Could we just use this as conservatism earlier to start the year or are you leaving room for more additional sales and marketing and R and D investments this year? Thanks.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. Yes, fair enough. Okay. Look, pipeline, So you see how we guided. We had a good quarter and what we believe is a strong guide as well.

Speaker 5

And so that should tell you that we feel relatively good and optimistic about the fight. You asked between enterprise and SMB, they're very different because enterprise, again, is year plus cycle. SMB could be easier than the 6 months, in many cases, 1 to 3 months. So pipe there is a lot less it's not important, but it's just a very different dynamic there. But again, overall, we feel that we are finding bottom, if you will.

Speaker 5

And you have seen our enterprise rates stabilize over multiple quarters. You have not yet seen this from us in SMB, but we are optimistic that we're not far from that as well. And given the size of the greenfield opportunity, which is still still we're still under 10,000,000 seats ourselves, right? And we're in the lead by PRC accounts according to third party research. Some of you may have called our Wall Street Journal as recently which details some of that research.

Speaker 5

With the overall opportunity just in the enterprise, okay, being $100,000,000 a long way to go. And given that we are still doubling tripping down on innovation, we're infusing AI across the entire portfolio and not just limiting it to our new products, for example. Again, we are diverse and we're pretty optimistic that we will continue holding our own and not be disappointing people. Okay, I think that was the question, yes.

Speaker 3

Yes. So on the margin question, So overall, we're really happy with the improvements we've driven in profitability over the last 2 years or so. Margins have gone from 10% to, as you say, 21% to where I've held the guide today. I think really we feel we need to balance growth versus profitability, and we need to maintain some flexibility to be able to go after attractive investments in either product, innovation, on the marketing side. We talked about the gold verticals, vertical specific campaigns.

Speaker 3

So yes, we really see it as a balancing act. And on operating margin, I would say that I've guided closer to the pin. Hopefully, what you've seen is that we took up free cash flow margins from 17.5% to 18.5 percent. That's adjusted unlevered. So hopefully that answers the question.

Operator

The next question comes from Siti Panigrahi of Mizuho. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask you about the new products that you expect to hit 100,000,000 ARR by end of next year. Which one you feel more excited about between the CX, RingSense and RingCentral events? And also how do you as you keep adding features to RingCS, how do you try to position your product versus your partnered product within your installed base?

Speaker 5

Yes, sure. Okay. Well, for those of you with multiple kids, it's like asking which daughter you like best. So there's no politically correct answer to that. We like them all or else probably we'll not be investing in some of them.

Speaker 5

As far as they're very different. So we're talking about 3 products, one of which is really not a product, but a family of products. So it's Ring CX, which is our native contact center. It's RingCentral Events and it's RingCentral for sales, but it's the first in a family of products for us because we expect to be introducing green sense for other verticals and image specific solutions. I think it's easiest to quantify ring CF because the UCCAP market is relatively well covered and well understood.

Speaker 5

And this will get into the second part of your question. Green CF differentiates on ease of use, pricing and packaging. And very importantly, it's an AI native product. So AI is infused there from day 1. And of course, it seamlessly integrates with RingX, which is our flagship UCaaS product.

Speaker 5

So we have internal projections, which we are not going to share at this point. But suffice to say that we feel confident that our goal of $100,000,000 ARR across all three products is achievable, okay? We mentioned some numbers. We have approximately doubled or even more than doubled customer counts on both RingCS and RingCentral events and that's just quarter over quarter. So while the surveys, obviously, very strong growth, very strong demand for the both of them.

Speaker 5

Events, I think within the shares only certainly what we can do, we might. I think we got 25%, yes, quarter over quarter growth, which is still very, very strong. So look, again, it's very early for all of them, but very promising, okay? And I tell you what, I like having multiple horses in the trade. They all help each other when we have an event sale, for example, it absolutely opens opportunities for us with CX, with ring fence and with ES itself.

Speaker 5

So it's a virtuous cycle.

Operator

The next question comes from Meta Marshall of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hey, this is Jamie on for Meta. I appreciate you taking the question. I think maybe just following up on that last point, great to see the traction you guys are getting with Ring CX. Are you able to provide any detail on how much of that base comes from existing customers versus new? And then just as a follow-up to that, have you seen any conflicts with the partnership that you guys have with NICE?

Speaker 8

Are you running into any challenges in terms of what to present to the customer? Or have you seen NICE try to take any of those customers direct?

Speaker 5

Yes. To your last question, look, it would not be in the spirit of a debt metal letter of the agreement for them to take them direct. So we hope not, okay? As far as base or not, when you say base, some of them are coming from our base, but not necessarily from the RCCC, which is in contact based, NICE based. We're not trying to convert those to CF.

Speaker 5

Again, the 2 products are very different, in many ways complementary. Ring CF is much simpler to use, install very different price point, more aggressive price point. Of course, we have owner economics on it, so margins are healthy. But it's really designed to address simpler use cases, more mass market, if you will, as opposed to RingCentral Compass Center, RingCC, which is flagship industry leading Gartner and Q leaking products that NICE has. So again, we have very clear rules of engagement self imposed internally.

Speaker 5

When we get an inquiry or a lead, we qualify which product to present it to or which product will be presented to the customer. And once we do, we will be we are locked into that path. So it's rare to see a tug of war between TS and CC.

Operator

The next question comes from Tim Horan of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Thanks guys. 2 also if I might. On RateCX, do you think you're expanding the number of agent seats out there or companies adding contact center capabilities or is it kind of more you taking market share from existing? And then secondly, on Microsoft Teams, do you have a sense of what percentage of Teams users now are using it for external phone calls and maybe a sense of where that can kind of go to? And do you maybe just have a rough sense of what percent Microsoft has versus other out sources like yourself?

Speaker 9

Thanks.

Speaker 5

Yes. No, I mean Microsoft still has their own numbers. Our use within Teams is, I mean, I think it's a well known fact that people use Microsoft more for internal than external. Our growth verticals, let me answer it this way, our growth verticals all tend to be B2C, okay? So whenever you have a consumer needing to access their brand, okay, whether it be health care or financial or retail, these are just some of these what we call gold verticals.

Speaker 5

This is where we shine, okay? And this is very, very large market still and a huge amount of greenfield still left there. Okay. So what was the CX part of the question?

Speaker 9

Trying to understand it. Do you think the number of agents are growing in CX? Are they shrinking? Your price point is pretty low and easy to use. Do you think you're enabling people to kind of go into this business for the first time if you're a small business that maybe didn't have this capability before?

Speaker 5

Absolutely. Absolutely. So your question is well, yes, our count of agents is, of course, growing very rapidly because we are early in life cycle and we are just I think doubling quarter over quarter obviously we're growing quite nicely. But if your question is about overall number of agents in the industry growing, That's a really interesting question. And obviously, there is this line of thinking that AI will replace agents.

Speaker 5

For now, we're seeing more AI augmenting agents. I do believe that over time, overall number of humans in the industry will stabilize and be decreasing. I also subscribe to that. And for that reason, we're building AI and agent assist, co pilot and even agent replace capabilities into CS. So this is absolutely taking place.

Speaker 5

It will always be the case and already is the case that the bot is much cheaper than a human being. It's not as good yet, not as versatile And this is across the industry or also wouldn't be any agents left. You made an interesting point about, hey, small businesses, they didn't have access to this type of functionality before. That's I would agree to that. That's I would just largely true.

Speaker 5

I can tell you from my personal interactions with small and medium sized businesses, many of them actually pride themselves on the fact that they provide human assistance and not if you will hide behind bots and this is their way of differentiating and kind of showing the human touch and human TLC. I do expect that to stay for the foreseeable future as well. So there are different dynamics here. As a business and at the high level, how we approach it is saying, look, customer, if you want to have a good solid cost effective solution of empowering and lighting up your human agents, here is a solution. As you are ready, here is a simple and relatively seamless path of augmenting their experience, your agents' experience and your customers' experience.

Speaker 5

And if as you get more comfortable, if you feel that you can start reducing the number of agents, that's just fine as well because here is this technology, which will allow you to do that without leaving the platform, okay? So it's more of an evolution than the revolution is what we see and we're structuring in our roadmap.

Operator

The next question comes from Brian Peterson of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks for taking the question and congrats on the quarter. So Vlad, the tone of GSPs was notably strong this quarter. I'm curious, is that a broad based comment or are there a couple that are really driving that strength? And how are you thinking about that growth profile through that channel over the next couple of years? Thank you.

Speaker 5

Right. With GSPs, so yes, thank you for asking that. Look, GSPs is a hidden gem. And actually, I'm surprised that not more people ask this question and concentrate on this, because this is one area where we really have built a practice that is unrivaled in the industry. If you think about it in historical terms, a few years ago, BroadSoft, which was an on prem provider, really have licensed something like 700 carriers worldwide, which is really almost all of them.

Speaker 5

And they provided them with software licenses. In many cases, they were perpetual licenses, okay, which carriers have just bought in bulk. And it's also wonderful and the company had a nice exit and Cisco now owns them. The thing is this platform has not been innovated on in a number of years now. It is still on prem.

Speaker 5

There is not a natural path to the cloud. And telcos are and when I say telcos, it's not just telcos, It's telcos and cable providers as well, okay. For example, Charter Communications is a very valued member of our GSP partners and they're doing extremely well, okay, with our product. So they're just increasingly realizing that they have to move on this dated age, really almost unsupported software that's out there with BroadSoft, which has seen its prime and there are mass migrations underway. So we are very bullish about this channel.

Speaker 5

We are seeing both growth from, call it, same store sales to where each and every individual GSP is growing nicely as well as we are adding new major logos. We just announced Optus, Australia's 2nd largest. I believe owned by Singtel. So you can imagine that there are conversations across the board there. And look, BroadSoft, we have a number of very good people from what used to be BroadSoft.

Speaker 5

We know the playbook. We know who the accounts are. We also are well aware of the fact that out of the 700 that they have, we have approximately 2% of those. So long runway there. And we will be we expect to be sharing more in this later in the year and perhaps at our Analyst Day.

Speaker 5

But it is definitely an area of strength and a very nice competitive model for us.

Operator

And our last question comes from Terry Tillman of Truist. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Great. Thanks for squeezing me in. This is Bobby De on for Terry. I'm curious with the RingX rebrand, I'm curious how the go to market organization has reacted and evolved with the change. Are there potentially some productivity gains on the table for more of a multi product platform selling approach?

Speaker 10

Thank you.

Speaker 5

Yes. I people understand the reason for this. I think general reception has been quite positive. They understand that by remaining from MVP, which was MessageMediaFound to Ring ES, it does not mean that we're abandoning the multimodal strategy. It just means that we are redoubling on the experience part of it.

Speaker 5

It's more about any modality in particular, but more about integration of all modalities together. But even more importantly than that is infusion of AI and semantic capabilities across the entire portfolio and across all modalities. And this is what people are excited about. This is what won us best of show at Enterprise Connect. And look, we are in beta, we're in close beta here, but expect that we will be showing and showcasing these capabilities even to this group, our coverage universe in the relatively near future.

Speaker 5

I can tell you that we're using these products internally and it's a game changer. It's just amazing what you can do with AI if you apply it to a large network, just what kind of results can be achieved.

Operator

And this concludes our conference call. You may now disconnect.

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