LivePerson Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 8, 2024

There are 5 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to LivePerson's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Judith Van Rieter, and I will be your conference operator. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the prepared remarks, the management team from LivePerson will conduct a question and answer session and conference As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference call over to John Herakchio, Senior Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Judith. Joining me on today's call is John Sabino, CEO and John Collins, CFO and COO. Please note that during today's call, we will make forward looking statements, which are predictions, projections and other statements about future results. These statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions as of today, May 8, 2024 and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially due to various factors, including those described in today's earnings press release and in the comments made during this conference call, as well as in 10 Ks, 10 Qs and other reports we file with the SEC.

Speaker 1

We assume no obligation to update any forward looking statements. Also during this call, we'll discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP financial measures is included in today's earnings press release. Both the press release and the supplemental slides, which include highlights for the quarter, are available on the Investor Relations section of LivePerson's website at ir. Liveperson.com.

Speaker 1

With that, I'll turn the call over to LivePerson's CEO, John Sabino.

Speaker 2

Thank you, John, and thank you all for joining us today. Before providing a detailed update on the business and our strategy, let me briefly preview where we are in our transformation journey and what we have delivered since the last time we spoke. One of my first priorities in coming into the company was to establish a clear and transparent plan to align our efforts and people with the key focus areas necessary to improve our business performance and deliver profitable growth. We formalized and launched this plan in February and are measuring and tracking how we are progressing with our plan across the business. Another priority was strengthening our capital structure.

Speaker 2

As we discussed during our last call, giving the market and our customers confidence that LivePerson is a long term partner by proactively addressing our debt profile remains a top priority for the company. In our Q1, we repaid in full the outstanding $72,500,000 principal amount of the 2024 notes. In addition, we have spent a great deal of time on the topic of the 2026 notes in recent weeks and currently expect to have an update with respect to these efforts this month. The last priority I will briefly discuss is how we are improving our go to market capabilities. I've now met with well over 100 customers, having discussions consistent with what I shared with you on our last call.

Speaker 2

Customers continue to value our products and are excited to partner with us in their digital transformation. Additionally, I have learned that there are a number of customers interested in partnering with LivePerson in a bundled offering with Voix. And to that end, we will soon be announcing a strategic partnership with our major global CCaaS player that I will detail later in this call. Lastly, we continue to revamp our go to market motions by instituting processes that provide greater visibility into our customers' health and adoption. We're rolling out new pricing and packaging and we've hired a new Chief Revenue Officer.

Speaker 2

So now that I've shared a quick summary of our progress since the last call, let me update you briefly on our Q1 results. Revenue in the Q1 was $85,100,000 above the high end of our guidance range, driven by successful efforts to retain at risk customers during the quarter. And adjusted EBITDA was $500,000 above the midpoint of our guidance range as a result of the actions the company has already taken to reduce costs. John Collins will provide more detail on financial results in his section, but I wanted to briefly highlight that we achieved what we set out to do this quarter. Additionally, the cost actions taken in the Q1 allow us to maintain our full year guidance.

Speaker 2

These financial results and the maintenance of our full year guidance represent an important first step in the execution of our strategy. Now I'd like to take some time and detail the 3 key focused areas of our transformation strategy that I laid out in our Q4 call. First, let me discuss our capital structure in combination with the cost reductions made in the quarter. As discussed earlier, in the Q1, we completed the first step in improving our capital structure by repaying the outstanding $72,500,000 principal amount of the 2024 notes. Going forward, we are actively focused on addressing the 2026 notes as a pivotal part of strengthening our capital structure.

Speaker 2

And we currently expect to have an update on that front shortly. I want to be clear that giving the market and our customers confidence in LivePerson as a long term partner remains a top priority to support our return to growth and delivery of shareholder value. In addition to these efforts made on our debt, an update we hope to give you soon, we have continued to lower our cost structure to further improve the financial profile of our company. Driven largely by a reduction in force, over 30,000,000 dollars of in year costs were removed from the business. These sustainable cost actions still allow us to execute our strategy, continue to innovate and while improving our financials with the right sized cost structure for our company.

Speaker 2

2nd, let me update you on our go to market motion. On our Q4 call, I discussed the need to bring in new talent with experience in managing these types of turnarounds at scale and and the appointment of a new Chief Customer Officer and a VP of Sales Operations. Today, I'm excited to communicate that we have hired a new Chief Revenue Officer, experienced in scaling commercial capabilities and engaging with large SIs, partners and hyperscalers. We formally announced we will formally announce this person later in the month. With our new Chief Revenue Officer on board, we will have a streamlined go to market team that puts our commercial organization in a position to execute both on expansion and retention, while also focusing on generating new business.

Speaker 2

Now for a quick update on Renewals. I want to reiterate that it will take time to see improvement in results, but I want to be clear that operational improvements have already been made. We now evaluate our customer health at a more specific and tactical level than we have in the past, allowing us to better serve our customers and retain them. In addition, we have implemented rigorous structure and forecasting into our customer success refocused resources onto our most impactful accounts and launched success planning to create more value and better outcomes for customers. We are already seeing the improvements in retention and expect them to improve in subsequent quarters.

Speaker 2

John Collins will provide more detail on this later in the call. Next, I would like to discuss pricing and packaging. Last quarter, I shared we would be introducing new pricing and packaging strategies to make it easier for brands to purchase our products. I am happy to update that we have begun rolling out this new strategy as a pilot with more than 30 accounts tagged to participate and active discussions already underway with several customers and prospects. LivePerson's new pricing and packaging is extremely simple and streamlined with good, better and best packages that showcase our innovation.

Speaker 2

Services will be bundled into the price along with key features, analytics and integration. Unlike most other vendors, LivePerson will only have 2 pricing meters with almost no add on costs, so that contracts will be easy to scope with no surprises. LivePerson also orchestrates other conversational technologies and allows brands to bring their own LLMs and 3rd party AI without occurring additional costs. I am very excited about this strategy and have confidence that it will drive velocity into our sales cycles and increase win rates and also improve retention. We plan to make this pricing and packaging generally available to the market in the back half of Q3.

Speaker 2

Lastly, in go to market, we shared our strategy was to drive partnerships at greater velocity, specifically with the desire to integrate with voice providers to give our customers a 360 view of conversational data. I am proud to say that very soon we plan to announce a strategic partnership with a major global CCaaS player to power a unified best of breed omnichannel suite like nothing else in the market today. Unlike surface level partnerships common in our space, the intent of this partnership is to include deep integration of the products at all level, true alignment of our field and customer success teams and activation of our joint partner networks to maximize reach and client value realization on a global scale. We believe our joint partner offering will leapfrog the competition in terms of innovation by enhancing the entire product suite with marketing leading digital, AI and conversational intelligence capabilities. LivePerson will gain an integrated enterprise ready voice channel to enable a complete omnichannel experience for our clients, as well as access to an installed base of contact center agents nearly 20 times the size of our current footprint and a network of more than 5,000 channel partners in a scaled GTM operation in several key regions around the world that are untapped today by our existing geographic footprint.

Speaker 2

We are very excited about this opportunity of this partnership We will be able to discuss more about it in the near future. This brings me to our 3rd area of focus that I discussed as part of our transformation strategy, extending our advantages in product integration and orchestration. On the last call, we discussed 4 product initiatives: voice integration extracting value with technology that customers already have the ability to orchestrate all bots on the platform and improving the messaging experience in our top channels. 1st, in addition to the CCaaS partnership, which we will announce very soon, we are continuing to provide AI and automation through the voice channel. In Q1, we went live with voice AI for a leading airline and a leading provider of solar power.

Speaker 2

We also released our voice capture capability, which allows customers to easily ingest voice calls into our conversational intelligence platform and suggest areas for efficiency and improvement with voice AI. 2nd, on extracting value with the technology customers have today, LivePerson continues to be one of the few companies deploying generative AI generative AI at enterprise scale and we are seeing strong progress in both new logos and renewal deals. We are one of the first companies in our space to market with generative AI in May of 2023. And since that launch, nearly half of both renewals and new logo volumes have included our generative AI product. We have nearly 60 customers using generative AI today at scale, with nearly a third powering 50% or more of their conversation volume.

Speaker 2

We only expect these numbers to accelerate as enterprises become more comfortable with the technology. We also believe that our pricing and packaging strategy will further accelerate this and allow more of our customers to experience the benefits of the technology. Now I'd like to turn my attention to our efforts regarding orchestration. We understand that most enterprise brands are already using several LLMs and increasingly the challenge is how to integrate, orchestrate and optimize those models across the business with consistency. So we have introduced new functionality to our Bring Your Own LLM capability.

Speaker 2

Brands are already able to integrate 3rd party chatbots with LivePerson, but this release allows them to integrate their preferred LLM providers from OpenAI, Meta, Cohere and Google into their LivePerson bots. This mitigates the risk of AI vendor lock in and by consolidating with the LivePerson platform, it ensures greater control over the customer experience. Our new pricing strategy will also make it more affordable for brands to use their chosen LLM providers with LivePerson and grow the return on their AI investment across the board. And while we continue to make investments in generative AI and train our own models against customized use cases to address specific customer needs, we believe the bigger opportunity for LivePerson and AI is managing, optimizing and orchestrating all LLMs, no matter the vendor, within our product and alongside our generative AI capabilities that we provide today. In addition to bring your own LLM capability, we have launched AI rewrite, which allows agents to generate improved responses with a single click.

Speaker 2

Customers using this feature have seen 10 point improvements in NPS, with over 95% of messages sent having better outcomes with this capability. And lastly, we launched social orchestration for Amazon Lex, continuing our goal to allow seamless handoffs across any channel and any bot platform. We're confident that these capabilities will ensure that LivePerson remains a market leader in the next generation of AI capabilities for its customers. The final initiative in this focus area was to improve our messaging experience within our top channel. And in Q1, we made fundamental architectural improvements to our web channel that resulted in customers seeing up to 50% performance improvement.

Speaker 2

This has created a strong foundation for future innovation and improvements in this channel and it paves the way for key renewals at some of our largest enterprise customers. So to summarize, we are extending our advantages in all areas of product orchestration and integration capabilities. We're improving our voice integration, increasing functionality to bring your own LLM and improving messaging performance. And this is just to highlight a few. In addition to all the announcements I just mentioned, I welcome you to join us virtually on May 23 for our Spark product launch event, where we will unveil even more functionality we are bringing to our product.

Speaker 2

Finally, I wanted to share that in spite of the headwinds and challenges we have faced, LivePerson continues to be recognized by analysts and the media as a relevant player in digital customer service and conversational AI. We were named a strong performer in the Forrester Wave Conversation Automation Solutions for B2B in Q1 of 2024, which marks the 8th time that LivePerson has been recognized in Forrester's research over the last 12 months. And LivePerson was named the Fast Company's prestigious list of the world's most innovative companies for a third time. We were recognized as the applied AI category, which honors companies embracing AI to reinvent how business is done. So I want to extend congratulations to everybody on the LivePerson team and I want to thank all of you for your commitment and dedication to our customers and company.

Speaker 2

So in summary, as I sit here today, approximately 4 months from the day I joined, I've only gained confidence since the last time we spoke that the transformation strategy we are executing on today will lead to a future of profitable growth for LivePerson. In the Q1 of our new strategy, we delivered on the guidance we provided and right sized our cost structure. We progressed on our efforts towards improving our capital structure and currently expect to have an update on that later this month. In go to market, we've made substantial operational changes by bringing in new leadership, simplifying pricing and packaging, and we plan to imminently announce a strategic partnership with a major global CCaaS company, in addition to increasing our strengths with product orchestration and integration. As we have outlined, we are rapidly executing in each area of that strategy and I look forward to updating this audience on our execution and positive trajectory in future earnings calls.

Speaker 2

Now let me pass the call to our CFO and COO, John Collins. John, over to you.

Speaker 3

Thanks, John. I'll begin with a brief operational update followed by a discussion of our financial performance and guidance. First, I would like to emphasize John's remarks on our capital structure. Deleveraging remains a strategic imperative for the company. As planned, we fully repaid the $72,500,000 remaining balance of the 2024 notes that matured in March.

Speaker 3

We have also spent a considerable amount of time and effort on addressing the 20 1st quarter, including 12 new we signed a total of 40 deals in the Q1, including 12 new logos and 28 expansions and renewals. 1st quarter deals included upsells with a large Australia based bank and a fast casual restaurant chain. New logo wins included a global digital entertainment company and a global distributor of electrical products and services. Consistent with the plans we shared last quarter, we embarked on a significant rebuild of our go to market operations in the Q1. Hiring new leadership, restructuring teams and improving processes has a short term cost.

Speaker 3

While we mitigated some expected customer churn in the Q1, midstream changes to our go to market operations translated to below average deal counts and values in the Q1. In total, deals were down 43% year over year and 35% sequentially. To reiterate some of the critical changes, we installed new leadership, including a new Chief Customer Officer and a VP of Sales Operations and we have hired a new Chief Revenue Officer. Collectively, these new leaders coupled with industry standard processes and greater clarity in roles and responsibilities establishes a solid foundation for our return to profitable growth. For example, we can now evaluate customer health across technical and strategic dimensions 5 quarters into the future, giving us greater specificity on potential friction and the lead time to address them.

Speaker 3

Similarly, we have strengthened the rigor and repeatability of our sales operations for each stage of the sales cycle. In parallel, as John described, we also initiated the rollout of a radically simplified pricing and packaging strategy that we expect to increase deal velocity and wins. So in a very real sense, we needed to slow down before we could go faster. And I'm excited to report that we are already seeing significant improvement in pipeline generation and deals in the Q2. Finally, before I move on to our financial results, I want to emphasize the significance of the partnership that John alluded to.

Speaker 3

Consistent with our prior commentary, this strategic partnership is founded on meaningful shared economics and robust technology integrations. By partnering with a major global enterprise CCaaS provider, have repositioned to meet the number one demand of our customers, an AI powered single pane of glass for customer service and support across voice and digital channels. We look forward to sharing additional details at our Spark event in 2 weeks and we encourage everyone to tune in virtually. As for our Q1 financial results, total revenue was $85,100,000 above the high end of our guidance range, but down 21% year over year or 15% excluding the contributions from the consumer business. The year over year decline was driven by customer churn in the Q1 and the exit of non core business lines a year ago.

Speaker 3

Note that in the Q1, Wild Health contributed $1,500,000 to total revenue. Adjusted EBITDA for the Q1 was $500,000 which was above the midpoint of our guidance range. Despite having a significantly lower revenue base, adjusted EBITDA was better than the $1,300,000 loss in the Q1 a year ago, driven by rigorous rightsizing of our cost structure. Revenue from B2B Host and Services was $71,500,000 down 11% year over year. B2B core recurring revenue was $77,600,000 down 6% year over year driven by the expected customer cancellations and down sales we discussed last quarter.

Speaker 3

Professional services revenue was $13,700,000 down 33% year over year, driven largely by the completion of the engagement with Declare JV in the Q1 of 2023. Excluding revenue from the JV, professional services declined 17% year over year. From a geographic perspective, U. S. Revenue was $60,500,000 and international revenue was $24,600,000 or 71% 29% of total revenue respectively.

Speaker 3

For the Q1, average revenue per customer was 625,000 dollars up 12% driven in part by expansions with our largest customers. Consistent with my earlier update on 1st quarter deals, RPO declined 7% sequentially to $297,000,000 in the Q1. Net revenue retention was 89% in the Q1 compared to 95% in the 4th quarter. Considering NRR is a function of in period revenue, it is a lagging indicator of progress against our strategy. As discussed last quarter, given the size and timing of cancellations in the Q1, which have a full year revenue impact, we expect revenue to decline sequentially throughout the year to the Q4, though the rate of decline will lessen as we progress towards the Q4.

Speaker 3

However, we also expect new ARR that is the net of annualized bookings and annualized churn to improve throughout the year and turn positive beginning in the Q4. Finally, in terms of cash, we ended the Q1 with $127,000,000 of cash on the balance sheet following the full settlement of the 2024 notes I mentioned earlier. After further reducing our cost structure through actions taken in the Q1 and current quarter, which will yield over $30,000,000 of in year savings, we expect our cash balance to be near the current balance by year end. In terms of guidance for the 2nd quarter, we expect revenue to be in the range of $76,000,000 to $80,000,000 This is a sequential decline of approximately $7,000,000 at the midpoint, which as discussed is primarily driven by the full effect of customer cancellations in the Q1, along with below average field counts that we expect to improve in the 2nd quarter. B2B core recurring revenue is expected to be approximately 92% of total revenue in the Q2, we expect a range of $0,000,000 to $5,000,000 For the full year, we are maintaining our revenue guidance range of $300,000,000 to 315,000,000 dollars Again, this range is heavily influenced by the concentration of cancellations in the Q1, which have full year revenue impact.

Speaker 3

Considering the progress we've already made in rebuilding our go to market operations, we expect to improve deal velocity and wins and materially reduce the impact of cancellations and down sells in subsequent quarters, enabling us to generate positive new ARR in the Q4. As for B2B core recurring revenue, again, we expect it to be approximately 92% of total revenue for the full year. Finally, we are also maintaining our adjusted EBITDA guidance range of $15,000,000 to 26,000,000 and we continue to expect the B2B business to be free cash flow positive for the full year. Now I'll turn the call back to John for his final comments before we proceed to Q and A. John?

Speaker 2

Thanks so much, John. Before turning the call over to Q and A, I want to emphasize to this audience that everything we told you we were going to executing imminently. As I have said before, it will take time to see these results of these operational improvements. But the changes that drive the results we seek are happening today and will continue to happen as we transform this company and progress on our journey to profitable growth. At this point, I'd like to hand the call over to the operator for Q and A.

Speaker 2

Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now be conducting the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Jeff Van Buren of Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks for taking my questions guys. Maybe the first one for John. John, in terms of the you've been out talking to a lot of the customer base. Just take a common traits of those that churned off the platform?

Speaker 4

I know you had some suspicion last time we spoke, but I imagine you know a lot more now.

Speaker 2

Yes. So some of the customers that have churned were looking for enhanced functionality that we did not plan to provide on a roadmap, specifically the ability to completely customize or build custom interface on our agent workspace. So there are some that fall into that category where they are looking for enhancements that we are not willing to bring at this point in time. That's definitely one category of customer. The other ones are very similar to what we spoke about before, which is we're seeing that the consolidation around CCaaS and digital and this is where this partnership that we're referencing, I think will be a very, very important way of going to market in the future to counteract that churn.

Speaker 2

So it falls in the 2 essential categories, one being feature and functionality that a specific customer might want and need for their business. That's not really on a roadmap at this point. And the other being platform consolidation, which we've discussed in the past and we feel that this partnership that we'll be announcing very shortly will definitely assist us in counteracting.

Speaker 4

In the quarter, I think you commented on the obviously, it's in the deal counts, which you said your bookings value also missed expectations. Just talk about the disruption to Q1 sales cycles and bookings and maybe with a lens of losses, your win rates maybe declining versus maybe changes you made that disrupted cycles, possibly buyer reluctance due to balance sheet. Kind of what you saw because obviously I'm sure you'd want to leave deals in flight and not disrupt those deals if you could help it. So just talk through what led to the weaker bookings in the quarter?

Speaker 2

Yes, correct. So the commercial headwinds around the debt, of course, played a role. Customers are waiting to hear back from us on how we're progressing on that debt discussion. So some of the bookings opportunities pushed. And then we've as I discussed before, we retooled the front end of our go to market, everything from restructuring to the team, bringing in new leadership, establishing new processes.

Speaker 2

And this has a disruptive effect. And as John Collins stated, it really was essential to slow down, put these changes in place, and we're starting to see those green shoots bear fruit in this coming quarter. Additionally, I've said in the past that customers have felt at times it's difficult to do business with us. We definitely have turned the corner, I think, in our pricing and packaging in a way that will allow us now to start experimenting with what I spoke about in my prepared remarks, to simplify the actual process of closing deals with our customers, give them more economic value and have a competitive price in the marketplace. So these pieces of the puzzle were not in place in Q1.

Speaker 2

We had a lot of work to do. We worked very rapidly at it. And now we have most of them in place and we're doing well on the pilot side and it is well with the new pricing and packaging. And again, we're starting to see some positive results there.

Speaker 4

Okay. The I guess last for me then, you gave the revenue number for Wild Health. Can you give a sense of where it was for the quarter loss wise, annualized expected loss? Just wondering how that's impacting the bottom line?

Speaker 3

Hey, Jeff. Yes. So in terms of losses from Wild Health, in general for the full year, as we discussed last quarter, we're expecting well under well, under $10,000,000 for the year and we further reduced that through the actions we're taking right now with respect to the decision to sell or wind down the business. And I expect to have more of an update on that topic later this month.

Speaker 4

Okay, got it. I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the call. Thank you for joining us and you may now disconnect your lines.

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