SiTime Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Key Takeaways

  • In Q1 SciTime delivered $33 million in revenue and 57.9% non-GAAP gross margin, hitting the high end of its outlook and forecasting Q2 revenue of $40–42 million.
  • Customer inventories have almost fully corrected, returning to normalized buying patterns which support the company’s expected sequential growth throughout 2024.
  • SciTime is gaining momentum in the communications enterprise data center (CED) market with design wins for 800G optical modules and next-gen 1.2 Tb and 1.6 Tb applications among OEMs and cloud service providers.
  • The Aura acquisition is on track, with 40 new clocks scheduled by year-end, expanding SciTime’s one-stop precision timing portfolio of clocks and oscillators.
  • While the automotive segment faces some pricing pressure, SciTime expects to offset this with new product ramps in 2024 and benefits from multi-year growth in automotive electronics and industrial applications.
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Earnings Conference Call
SiTime Q1 2024
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There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day,

Speaker 1

and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the SciTime's First Quarter Earnings Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Brett Perry with Shelton Group Investor Relations.

Speaker 1

Brett, please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Kevin. Good afternoon, and welcome to SciTime's Q1 2024 financial results conference call. Joining us on today's call from SciTime are Rajesh Vashist, Chief Executive Officer and Beth Howe, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to point out that during the course of this call, the company may make forward looking statements regarding expected future results, including financial position, strategy and plans, future operations, the timing market and other areas of discussion. It's not possible for the company's management to predict all risks nor can the company assess the impact of all factors on its business or the extent to which any factor or combination of factors may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any forward looking statements.

Speaker 2

In light of these risks, uncertainties and assumptions, the forward looking events discussed during this call may not occur, and actual results could differ materially and adversely from those anticipated or implied. Neither the company nor any person assumes responsibility for the accuracy and completeness of forward looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update forward looking statements for any reason after the date of this call to conform statements to actual results or to changes in the company's expectations. For more detailed information on risks associated with the business, we refer you to the risk factors described in the 10 ks filed on February 26, 2024, as well as the company's subsequent filings with the SEC. During the call, we refer to certain non GAAP measures, which are considered to be an important measure of company performance.

Speaker 2

These non GAAP financial measures are provided in addition to and not as a substitute for nor superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with U. S. GAAP. The GAAP to non GAAP reconciliation includes stock based compensation as well as acquisition related items related to amortization of intangible assets, one time acquisition related charges and expenses or income related to changes in the estimated fair value measurement of acquisition consideration payable and sales based earn out liabilities. Please refer to the company's press release issued today for a detailed reconciliation between GAAP and non GAAP financial results.

Speaker 2

With that, it's now my pleasure to turn the call over to CyTime's CEO. Rajesh, please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Brett. Good afternoon, all. I'd like to welcome new as well as existing investors to our Q1 2024 earnings call. For those of you that are not as familiar with SciTime, we are the leader in a dynamic new semiconductor category called precision timing. In electronics, timing is ubiquitous and ensures reliable functioning.

Speaker 3

SiTime's precision timing solutions serve the needs of AI, data center, automated driving, IoT and 5 gs. We are in the early days of transforming the $10,000,000,000 timing market. On our Q1 results, those were at the high end of our outlook. Revenue for the quarter was 33,000,000 dollars and non GAAP gross margins were 57.9%. In the past few months, we've continued to see a downward trend in customer inventories as expected, which has resulted in a pickup in order activity.

Speaker 3

In our last earnings call, SiTime forecast sequential growth throughout this year in Q2, Q3 and Q4 2024 trending back to a target growth rate. And now we reiterate that growth. We continue to see positive evidence of this. 1 of SciDAM's strengths comes from the diversity of end markets, customers, geographies and products. This strength shows in 2024, where every end market is expected to grow over the previous year.

Speaker 3

I will shortly provide more color on 3 noteworthy markets, the comms, enterprise data center or CED and automotive and industrial. We've always stated that one of the best use cases of precision timing is in the CED market because of its high growth, high ASPs and high gross margins with enduring revenue. At CED Customers Worldwide, we see diverse applications using a broad product line, which I'm going to talk about now. In North America, customers are developing enterprise AI systems and all aspects of data center network infrastructure such as switches, smart NICs, optical modules and active electrical and optical cables. We're providing key OEMs and CSPs or cloud service providers with complete timing solutions, both clocks and oscillators for many different use cases.

Speaker 3

Our products uniquely reliably deliver high performance in the presence of common system stressors such as high and rapidly changing temperatures, vibration and other kinds of system noise. As our data center customers push harder to increase their performance, they're looking to precision timing. Saitam is working closely with these customers to deliver optimized timing solutions and we expect this trend to grow over time. In Taiwan and China, we are engaged with many of the key ODMs and OEMs that develop optical modules and servers for CSPs and OEMs around the world. We are in a good position to benefit as 800 gs optical modules displace 400 gs and become mainstream in the next 2 years.

Speaker 3

We're also beginning to win the next generation of 1.2 terabit and 1.6 terabit module designs that will ramp into production in the next year. In Europe, our focus in the CED market is on telecom applications. While 5 gs infrastructure deployment has slowed in the past few years, we expect that the next generation of 5 gs advanced equipment, which includes features for high performance and efficiency and lower power will start ramping in 2025. We are engaged with key OEMs that will provide 5 gs advanced equipment such as remote radio units, distributed units and centralized units. We also believe that our newest oscillators such as the EPYC OCXO, Elite RF and Elite X Super TCXOs deliver exceptional performance in these applications.

Speaker 3

Our continued success in our core CED market is especially hardening as it validates the strategy that we presented at our IPO. At that time, we said we would expand our serviceable market or SAM with breadth in our product portfolio and we accomplished this. We introduced 17 compelling new oscillators and clocks for this market. The recent introduction of our Chorus clock generator for AI data centers adds to the clock products that we acquired from Aura, all of which are complementary to our oscillator portfolio. The integration of Aura products is progressing well and by the end of 2024, we will have added 40 new clocks, further expanding our portfolio in this market.

Speaker 3

As our most innovative customers seek out our most innovative solutions, our customer connections are strengthening and our business is growing. While it will take time to generate meaningful revenue from the cloud products, we're happy with the progress to date as it validates our strategy of offering a full product portfolio with one stop shop for the precision timing needs. With all this, we believe we are in great position in the comms enterprise data center market. Another market where we expect to see growth in 2024 is automotive. While there's current uncertainty in the growth of EVs, our presence in a variety of automotive applications, particularly in ADAS electronics should help us to grow in 2024.

Speaker 3

Our products are used in sensing, communications and computing in automotive electronics and the growth of electronics in all cars, not just EVs is a multi year trend, which bodes well for our future automotive revenue. Over time, our focus will be on developing new products that dramatically improve the performance and reliability of automotive electronics. In this market, we are beginning to see some pricing pressure, but expect to offset this with new designs ramping into production in 2024 as well as increasing market share. The industrial market is our most diverse amongst all markets over a 100 end applications that use our products. While industrial applications are typically lower volume than in consumer, these designs can last as long as 10 years.

Speaker 3

To give you a sense of the diversity of our business, here are some new use cases in the industrial markets. Seismic sensors for geo exploration of oil, gas and minerals, new gas detection sensors for environmental safety, as well as efficient farming equipment, which uses GNSS Electronics with centimeter level positioning. Our products deliver an order of magnitude better performance in these harsh environments in these applications where they operate and we expect they'll do naturally well. To summarize, we believe that SiTime strategy is paying off. We will leverage our strengths in end market diversity and product breadth as we return to a target growth rate.

Speaker 3

I'll now turn the call over to Beth to discuss our financial results in more detail.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Rajesh, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, I'll discuss our Q1 results and then provide our outlook for the Q2 of fiscal 2024. Q1 revenue was $33,000,000 compared with $42,400,000 in Q4, down 22% as expected in line with typical seasonality. Drilling into revenue by market, sales into the communications enterprise and data center market were $9,900,000 or 30% of sales. Sales into the mobile, IoT and consumer market were $10,300,000 or 31% of sales, with sales to our largest customer totaling $6,300,000 or 19 percent of sales.

Speaker 4

And sales into the automotive, industrial and aerospace market were $12,900,000 or 39 percent of sales. Non GAAP gross margins were 57.9%, down 40 basis points sequentially. The impact of lower volumes was partially offset by favorable mix and cost. Total non GAAP operating expenses for the quarter were $27,400,000 with R and D expense of $16,400,000 and SG and A expense of $11,000,000 Total operating expenses were up sequentially as expected due to Q1 the full integration of the Aura transaction as well as seasonally higher FICA taxes. We continue to be disciplined in the management of expenses while investing in our portfolio.

Speaker 4

The Q1 non GAAP operating loss was $8,300,000 Interest and other income was $6,300,000 and the Q1 non GAAP net loss was $1,900,000 or $0.08 per share. Turning to the balance sheet, accounts receivable were $16,800,000 with DSO of 46 days, which is flat sequentially. Inventory at the end of the quarter was 74 point $4,000,000 as we continue to make strategic wafer purchases. During the quarter, we generated $1,700,000 in cash from operations, invested $3,000,000 in capital purchases and ended the quarter with $517,000,000 in cash, cash equivalents and short term investments. Let me now review our outlook for Q2.

Speaker 4

As we noted last quarter, we are well positioned for long term growth and expect to grow sequentially as well as year over year for the remainder of 2020 4. We are taking a prudent approach to managing our cost structure as we absorb the acquisition and prioritize investments to drive long term growth. With that in mind, we are providing the following outlook for the Q2. We expect revenue of $40,000,000 to $42,000,000 an increase of 21% to 27% sequentially, gross margins to be roughly flat compared with Q1, operating expenses of $27,500,000 to $28,000,000 and interest income of at least $5,000,000 As a result, we expect non GAAP earnings per share to be in the range of $0.01 to $0.05 per share. In closing, we are executing on our strategy.

Speaker 4

We have a unique technology that addresses large and growing markets and our design wins reinforce the strength of our value proposition with customers. All in all, we are excited about our market position and believe our growth story is firmly intact. With that, I'd like to hand the call back to the operator for questions and answers.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our first question comes from Tore Svanberg with Stifel. Your line is open.

Operator

Yes. Thank you and congratulations on the continuous recovery here. So it sounds like pretty strong growth for Q2. Rajesh, I was hoping you can maybe talk a little bit about where the growth is coming from, especially within your 3 product segments.

Speaker 3

Yes. So it's from all of them, Tore. That's the nice part about it. Clearly, CED is going to do very well and so is automotive and industrial. But equally, consumer is going to grow, although not as much.

Speaker 3

It is going to continue to grow as well. So, I think we're going to see growth in all three segments.

Operator

Very good. And you mentioned that customers continue to make progress on reducing inventory levels. Is it safe to say that that process is almost complete? Or are you still seeing certain customers still digesting the inventories?

Speaker 4

Hey, Tore, this is Beth. I think it's a great question. So we have seen a lot of progress in the inventory digestion. And as we said last quarter, I think it'll be pretty much behind us by the end of this quarter. A lot of customers are back to normal buying patterns and the remainder I think will be pretty much behind us this quarter.

Operator

Great. I'll go back in queue. Thank you.

Speaker 1

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Quinn Bolton with Needham and Company. Your line is

Speaker 5

open. Hey, let me offer my congratulations on the strong outlook. I guess, Beth, to follow-up on your last answer there, if you think most customers sort of through the inventory correction by the end of the Q2 here, do you think we're sort of getting back to consumption levels? Should we be thinking about the 40% to 42% level as getting close to consumption? Or do you think the 40% to 42% is still well below consumption levels?

Speaker 5

And then second question, just as you look into the second half of the year, in most years, Cytamp sees pretty healthy seasonality in the business second half over first half. Wondering if you envision sort of normal seasonal second half strength this year, especially as customers emerge from the inventory correction? Thank you.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Glenn. So let me address those questions. As we think about our sell through versus our sell in, I think we're seeing good return to more normalized patterns, if you will, and being able to see that in the bookings as well. And so really excited about seeing that return. In terms of seasonality, I think we do expect seasonally stronger second half than first half, though I think we've also seen some pickup here in Q2 that Q2 is probably a little bit stronger than we would have thought 90 days ago, but we do still expect second half to be stronger than first half.

Speaker 6

Perfect. Thank you.

Speaker 1

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Suji Desilva with ROTH MKM. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Hi, Ritesh. Hi, Beth. Congrats on the recovery here. Longer term question perhaps to start. As you grow back to kind of 30% year over year and into over the next several quarters, do you think this time that the consumer mix will still kind of be the larger element as you grow?

Speaker 7

And it was 50%, 60% before. I'm assuming it's not going to go that high, but or will it be more of a blended mix, as you kind of grow into a larger revenue, this time around with all the design win pipeline you have?

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks, Suji. We've always maintained that as the new products that we have launched over the last 3 years, plus the Aura acquisition, most of them go into the communications enterprise and data center or CED markets. So we expect to see continued strong growth in that market. We see that market that revenue for us getting to be $100,000,000 in the coming years.

Speaker 3

We also expect continued growth in automotive, which we also think will get to a very high number in coming years. So while consumer and industrial will continue to grow, while consumer will grow, most of the products that we launched in the last 2 years, 80% of those products were intended for industrial, automotive and the CED markets. So it's reasonable to assume that our mix is going to grow as designed significantly into the higher gross margin, higher ASP, much stickier products in the CED, industrial and to some extent in the automotive market.

Speaker 7

Very helpful, Rajesh. And then on the data center success you're having, do you have a sense of what percent of that is coming from AI infrastructure build out, which the hyperscales are focusing on right now? Do you have a sense of how levered you are to that?

Speaker 3

We it's pretty high. It's in fact, I would pretty much say it's some of the bulk of it given the optical, the optical modules, given the NIC card business, given the active cabling and optical cables, I think all of those are going in there. There are switches in there. There are top of the rack switches in there. So I think most of it that's coming is from there worldwide.

Speaker 3

But I deliberately put in the telecom piece just to say that I know telecom is a little bit out of fashion these days, but the next generation of 5 gs equipment is happening and Cytame has secured significant design wins. And whenever that comes back, let's say, in the middle of next year, we are going to participate in that too.

Speaker 7

Okay. Noted. Thanks.

Speaker 1

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Chris Costa with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Yes, thank you. Just a question about the long term growth rate rejection. And I think you reiterated that at kind of 30%. Can you speak about that in the context of this year, next year? Are those kind of reasonable assumptions from these levels now that the inventory burn is pretty well done that we could start looking at driving expectations of 30% growth from these levels going forward?

Speaker 3

Yes. I mean, even as early as last earnings call in February, I was indicating between 25% 30% growth for this year, and I continue to see that. I might even argue a little bit towards the higher end of that. But it is early days for this year. We're still in the 1st week of May.

Speaker 3

But I continue to see significant potential for Cytigm in Q3, Q4. But very clearly in next year, 2025, I certainly see 30% in line of sight.

Speaker 6

Thank you. As a follow-up, you mentioned in your remarks some pricing pressure on the automotive side. I wonder if you could expand on those remarks, where you're seeing that pressure, how you're dealing with it? And I guess since you constrain those remarks of the auto segment, does that suggest that pricing in other segments is stable?

Speaker 3

Yes. The pricing for SkyTime between this the past quarter and this quarter is going to continue to be the same. In general, our price is driven our corporate ASP is driven more by mix than by individual places where we might be under pressure, which will happen which does happen in pretty much every segment, just to be clear. But it's just in the aggregate, I see it more in automotive simply because, I think there is some pressure on EV pricing and some of it is rolling down to us. But this is at the margins.

Speaker 3

I was just sharing those thoughts in the spirit of great transparency just to say that it's not like we're completely impervious to macro events, but we do have ameliorating parts to it, which is that our mix is changing. And so we're getting to work around the pricing that we are getting through. In coming years in automotive, I want to put in a plug for the new product portfolio that we are attempting to build in that market. I think that's going to be significantly differentiated to deliver reliability and performance for the automotive market, the likes of which they have never seen. And I think we're already doing that in CED.

Speaker 3

I think we're going to repeat that in automotive, but that's going to take a couple of years.

Speaker 6

Got it. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Tom O'Malley with Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Hi guys. This is Will Levy on for Tom O'Malley. Just a quick question on gross margins in this trajectory into 2025. If the consumer business is recovering and off of March lows, how do you see margins trending for the rest of 2024, especially with mix as other segments grow as well?

Speaker 4

Sure. I'll take that one. So as we think about gross margins, as I said in Q2, we expect them to be kind of roughly similar to Q1. And in the back half, I would expect that they would see some improvement off those levels.

Speaker 8

Thanks. Should we assume like maybe 50 bps increase in September, December, maybe exiting the year close to 59 ish? Is it a little granular there?

Speaker 4

No, I appreciate. Maybe I'll give you some insights on how to think about gross margins. So I think they will trend up as we go into second half versus first half. There's a number of things that go into gross margin and then we'll have to see that how that evolves. So clearly, our product mix is a big driver of gross margins.

Speaker 4

And then we also look at the as we grow the revenue, then we would expect some better manufacturing absorption that should be a benefit as well. We'll have to see how costs play as we go through the year. So those are kind of the puts and takes that I'd be thinking about as I thought about second half.

Speaker 3

Awesome. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1

One moment for our next question. Our next question is a follow-up question from Tore Svanberg with Stifel. Your line is open.

Operator

Yes. Thank you. Rajesh, I had a question on the Ora business of the clocks. You talked about 40 new products being released at the end of the year. I know you had talked about not just the SAM expansion here, but also strategically how important it is to sell clocks in addition to your oscillator devices.

Operator

So could you just elaborate a little bit on that? And then as you launch those 40 new products, how is the sampling going to be as far as garnering more content? Because I do assume the clocks probably pull more oscillators too, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3

That's right. So there are many strategic elements to that. The first and foremost is that the side time focus is right now on the CED market with the clock and oscillators being sold as a bundle, because we believe that that is where the biggest precision timing needs are and where we can help our customers, particularly in AI right now, we can help our and even in telecom, we can help our customers a lot. Think of it this way, our customers today have to go to semiconductor companies such as Skyworks, Renesas and Microchip to name a few, to get the clocking portion. Then they have to go to the crystal companies to get the oscillator, and then the burden falls on them to make the matching of these 2 under very tough conditions of performance and environment to make that work.

Speaker 3

Saeta makes it super easy for them with these new four d products and the current ones that we've already launched that we can put that integrated and make it work as a subsystem. And we're getting significant traction on that. And my comments on getting traction on that with our customers in the data center market as well as in the NIC Card business are very much focused on that. So I think we're going to start. We're not focused on the consumer space as much.

Speaker 3

We're focused mostly on the CED space. That is where the high margins are. And the clocking business also does have high margins, although not as high ASPs. ASPs are typically in the $5 to $10 range. Oscillators can go as high as $30 but the gross margins are higher close to 65% to 70%.

Operator

Very good. Last question then I'll go away. So you talked about obviously data center strength now, sounds like telecom more next year. But what about enterprise networking? Are you starting to see that market waking up as well?

Operator

Yes, we are. Although I

Speaker 3

have to say, I'd put it at the bottom a little bit. I think some of our customers there are figuring out where to play a little bit more. But right now, I think the beauty of SciTime is that with so many horses in the race in any different application or market, we can ride some that are really trending forward just like we are right now in data center and telecom as you point out for the future. So I think we're in pretty good shape. We also have storage business, which is doing okay.

Speaker 3

And so I think that's the best part about SciTime that I like in which we are a highly diversified, but at the same time high growth business and that's what makes us unique among most other companies.

Operator

Very good. Thank you again.

Speaker 1

And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to management for any actually we just have one other question pop up. One moment. Our next question is a follow-up from Quinn Bolton with Needham. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Two quick follow ups for me. 1, the Ora of semiconductor products, you just mentioned 40 clocks by the end of the year. I know these things sometimes take time to go out, get design wins and to ramp to production. So wondering if you could just kind of give us your latest thoughts. When do you think you'll start to see revenue from the Aura transaction, obviously excluding the Cascade product that used Aura originally?

Speaker 5

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. So you're right, Quinn. It does take a little bit long time, particularly one is the clocking portion and other is that it's in the CED area. But we are being a little bit more opportunistic. There are some products in the portfolio that are more pin compatible with existing products, mostly in the buffer area.

Speaker 3

And Sitime is picking up traction because the unique thing about Sitime is that unlike other clocking companies whose this clocking business is a 1%, 2% business for them, this is everything to do with Sitime, right? That's 100% Sitime business. So that level of focus, concentration, customer care, customer focus gets us a lot of traction even when we have called them me too products such as the buffers. And even in that, we are starting to get some traction. Possibly by late this year, early next year, we should be getting small single digit millions from that kind of business.

Speaker 3

But I think it's just an indicator of what focus can bring to a market. And so yes, hope that helps. No,

Speaker 5

that's perfect. The other question for you, Beth, just thinking about the gross margin ramp into the second half. Obviously, consumer I think is the lower margin segment. Just wondering, as you think about the second half, do you expect normal seasonality in the consumer segment in September, so maybe a little bit of a mix headwind in September? Or do you think the CED and industrial auto markets off perhaps a depressed pace can continue to grow faster than consumer straight through year end?

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 4

Hey, Quinn, sure. So as I look at the different markets, I think you summarized the different puts and takes. We do expect that you'll see Q3 seasonally stronger in consumer, which is a bit of a headwind, though consumer sorry, the commercial and enterprise data center is growing very fast. So I do think overall, the net net will be that gross margin should improve a little bit as we go into second half versus first half. And so I think we would expect to see an upward trend.

Speaker 4

But to your point, some of the enterprise data center strength will be mitigated with consumer, but overall increasing gross margins in second half.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 1

And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.

Speaker 3

No. Thank you all for joining us. We are very happy to be at this point in SiTime's life in the Q2 where we can look at growth all through the rest of the year, and we're delighted by how we are doing. Thank you all for joining us.

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's presentation. You may now disconnect, and have a wonderful day.

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