NYSE:TPL Texas Pacific Land Q1 2024 Earnings Report $1,199.25 -20.29 (-1.66%) Closing price 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$1,199.72 +0.47 (+0.04%) As of 04:05 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Texas Pacific Land EPS ResultsActual EPS$4.97Consensus EPS $4.58Beat/MissBeat by +$0.39One Year Ago EPSN/ATexas Pacific Land Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$174.14 millionExpected Revenue$158.20 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$15.94 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ATexas Pacific Land Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/8/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, May 9, 2024Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsTexas Pacific Land's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, August 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, August 7, 2025 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Texas Pacific Land Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 9, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Sean Amini, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Thank you, Mr. Operator00:00:11Amini. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:15Thank you for joining us today for Texas Pacific Land Corporation's Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Yesterday afternoon, the company released its financial results and filed its Form 10 Q with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is available on the Investors section of the company's website at www.texpacific.com. In addition, the company has posted an investor presentation that we'll be referencing today. That presentation related to produced water desalination and beneficial reuse can be found in the Investors section of our website under Presentations. It is also posted under the Events section on our website, which can be accessed through the News and Media tab and then IR Calendar. Speaker 100:00:54As a reminder, remarks made on today's conference call may include forward looking statements. Forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed today. We do not undertake any obligation to update our forward looking statements in light of new information or future events. For a more detailed discussion of the factors that may affect the company's results, please refer to our earnings release for this quarter and to our most recent SEC filings. During this call, we will also be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:01:23More information and reconciliations about these non GAAP financial measures are contained in our earnings release and SEC filings. Please also note, we may at times refer to our company by its stock ticker, TPL. This morning's conference call is hosted by TPL's Chief Executive Officer, Ty Glover Executive Vice President of Texas Pacific Water Resources, Robert Crane and TPL's Chief Financial Officer, Chris Stedham. Management will make some prepared comments, after which we will open the call for questions. Now, I will turn the call over to Ty. Speaker 200:01:53Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Driven by the continued strength of our surface derived cash flows, our Q1 2024 results are an excellent start to the year. Water sales, produced water royalties and easements and other surface related income in aggregate had revenue growth of 19% sequential quarter over quarter, which totaled approximately $81,000,000 and accounted for nearly 50% of total consolidated revenues. This was another especially great quarter for water sales as it generated $37,000,000 of revenues, which was nearly a company record. Our source water asset footprint combined with our excellent staff were able to push volumes throughout the Permian Basin with 72% of volumes occurring outside of TPL's surface acreage. Speaker 200:02:41Oil and gas royalty production of approximately 24,800 barrels of oil equivalent per day also represents strong performance. Our near term inventory of permits and drilled but uncompleted wells remain at robust levels, which combined with high activity levels on our water and surface assets indicates royalty production will continue to perform well. On capital allocation, the company and our Board continue to evaluate all of our options as the business continues to generate considerable free cash flow and maintains a net cash position of $837,000,000 This affords us tremendous ability to drive value throughout the energy cycle. I do want to spend the majority of my time this morning talking about some exciting news for TBL. As Sean mentioned, we posted a presentation relating to produced water desalination and beneficial reuse, and I will be referencing those slides. Speaker 200:03:34Our remarks today will serve 2 purposes. 1st, Speaker 300:03:38to give Speaker 200:03:38an update on our technology efforts related to produced water and second, to give an understanding of the state of the produced water market in the Permian today, the latter of which has been getting an increasing amount of attention throughout the industry. Starting with Slide 2, there are 2 components to what we announced yesterday. First, we have developed a promising new energy efficient method of produced water desalination. Although water desalination can be done today utilizing multiple methods and technologies, the challenge has always been doing so cost effectively. Desalinating produced water also presents some unique challenges compared to normal ocean or brine water. Speaker 200:04:20Over the last few years, our team has been studying a wide array of technologies, hoping to find something that could work economically at scale in the oilfield. It may seem both simple yet counterintuitive, but we wondered if we could leverage a process that happens every day in people's home, water turning into ice. We began to look more closely at this process, which is also referred to as fractional freezing. At first glance, it seemed nonsensical to make ice in the desert in West Texas. However, after running in house experiments and further research, we pursued the idea in earnest. Speaker 200:04:57We reached out to a leading industrial technology and manufacturing firm located here in the United States. Over the course of a couple of years, we collaborated on various ideas and techniques. After eventually finding success with the prototype, we quickly constructed a small scale test unit in TPL's R and D facility in Midland. That test trial was a success and we are moving forward with a larger test facility capable of processing 10,000 produced water barrels per day with expansion potential to 20,000 barrels per day. The second aspect of our announcement relates to beneficial reuse. Speaker 200:05:33If we're able to desalinate produced water economically at scale, then it opens up a world of possibilities in terms of what to do with that water. We've been conducting detailed studies in our lab to understand whether desalinated produced water could be used to grow various crops and native grasses. Our lab has a greenhouse, which is pictured on this slide. Here we use various local soils and native plants to understand the impact of utilizing fully desalinated and treated water. In addition to the extensive in house testing and analytic capabilities, we have also partnered with leading research institutions specializing in water quality, soil and plant testing. Speaker 200:06:16We have another parallel beneficial reuse program underway as we are exploring discharge of desalinated and fully treated water into tributaries that feed into the Pecos River and potentially direct discharge to the surface for aquifer recharge. Across both of these beneficial reuse paths, we are working closely with regulators and have made significant progress with both permitting and stakeholder engagement. Robert Crane, who leads our water team, will discuss these desalination and beneficial reuse initiatives in greater detail later on this call. Ultimately, if everything goes well, our intent is to bring large scale produced water desalination solutions to the Permian Basin. TPL has created a subsidiary called Transmissive Water Services LLC to house our desalination and beneficial reuse efforts. Speaker 200:07:06Transmissive is a wholly owned subsidiary of Texas Pacific Water Resources LLC or TPWR for short, which itself is a wholly owned subsidiary of TPL. We are currently in commercial negotiations with blue chip upstream operators as we move towards the next phase of constructing a larger desalination test facility. Interest has been incredibly high as oil and gas operators understand how critical this type technology is to keep the Permian oil and gas machine going. This first 10,000 barrel per day facility, which we refer to as Phase 2, will cost approximately $20,000,000 on a 100% basis. So our aim is to offset a substantial amount of TPL capital costs with any commercial arrangement. Speaker 200:07:53Longer term, our intent and desire is to structure commercial arrangements that align with TPL's ongoing business cash flows. We've had tremendous success with that model in the past as our team was able to turn TPL's raw surface acreage ownership into a business that last year collectively generated over $250,000,000 of high margin revenue. So we have the proven track record. Sure, our desalination technology and beneficial reuse advances get to a point where we can help launch a large scale build out throughout the Permian Basin, I'm confident in our ability to execute agreements in strategic partnerships in a manner that generates significant shareholder value. Turning to Slide 3, titled produced water overview. Speaker 200:08:42These next couple of slides are for the benefit of current and prospective investors that may not be completely apprised at the state of the Permian produced water market. But I'd like to provide additional context around what TPL is trying to solve. The term produced water refers to the water that is a co product from a producing oil and gas well. This water has very high salinity levels and contains oil and suspended solids and heavy metals. Because untreated produced water is not safe for crop irrigation or municipal use, there are 2 methods in which the industry deals with it. Speaker 200:09:18The most common method is to re inject produced water back subsurface. For many years, the water was injected into subsurface formations either above or below oil bearing shale formations. Due to the high levels of development activity and high water cuts experienced in the Permian Basin, the industry has begun to experience constraints concerning traditional disposal into both of these zones. The high volumes of deep formation injection is suspected to cause seismicity in local areas as injected water can find its way into natural faults. The Texas Railroad Commission, which regulates the oil and gas industry in Texas, has responded by instituting numerous seismic response areas or SRAs in certain regions. Speaker 200:10:03These SRAs have put restrictions on how much water can be injected. The industry has since pivoted to injection strictly targeting the shallower formations, hoping to avoid some of the faulting issues. Although injection into shallow formations does work, it presents additional complexity for upstream operators who plan to develop overlapping oil and gas acreage, which they would now potentially be drilling through a more highly pressured zone. The other common solution for produced water today is to reuse or recycle that water for oil and gas completion activities, otherwise known as fracking. Upstream operators can use raw produced or lightly treated produced water to complete new wells. Speaker 200:10:47However, given the sheer amount of produced water volumes that come from the Permian, even if operators were to use only produced water in their completion activities, the Permian could still have north of 10,000,000 barrels of produced water that would need to find a home. Turning to Slide 4. The Permian is recognized as an oil and gas powerhouse. Oil production today is over 6,000,000 barrels per day, which is more than other well known oil producing nations such as Iraq, Iran and Kuwait. However, one unique aspect of the Permian is its relatively high water to oil ratio. Speaker 200:11:26The Delaware side of the Permian has an especially high water to oil ratio of nearly 4 times. Despite the high water cuts, robust drilling economics in the Delaware has driven a strong ramp in activity, has generated a commensurate increase in produced water. Today, the industry is finding it increasingly difficult to handle all of this water. Given TPL's long standing actively managed vertically integrated water business, this is a dynamic bet we've seen coming for quite some time now. Over the last few years, we actively sought to increase our capabilities across every aspect of produced water solutions. Speaker 200:12:03This is why we began investing so much effort into desalination R and D years ago. We've also significantly increased our treatment capacity for traditional produced water reuse. And finally, we've made a concerted effort to increase our pore space ownership. Through various bolt ons, we managed to purchase surface and subsurface pore space easements totaling over 100,000 acres. The pore space we've acquired combined with our legacy surface position is critical in providing long term solutions for produced water. Speaker 200:12:37In evaluating surface acreage to acquire, we often perform extensive pore space due diligence across attributes such as capacity, formation pressures and fault and seismic mapping. Although we are well positioned to facilitate traditional produced water injection for years to come, we knew the industry needed additional solutions. There's still a lot of work and testing to be done with our emerging technology, though we are encouraged and excited with what we've seen so far. As we presented our technology to potential partners, customers and regulators, the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. We've received immense interest from operators to deploy the test facility near their development areas, not just in the Permian, but also in other major oil and gas basins in the U. Speaker 200:13:23S. I'm extremely proud of the team here for their innovation, dedication and talent Their efforts will be critical in sustaining the positive momentum of Permian development over the long term. With that, I will turn the call over to Robert. Speaker 300:13:38Thanks, Ty. For those of you that don't know me, I run TPWR. I joined TPL in 2017 and Ty recruited me to help build out TPL's nascent water business. Prior to TPL, I led water resource development efforts for EOG Resources across multiple basins, including the Permian and Eagle Ford. Excited to be here today and talk about water. Speaker 300:13:58Turning to Slide 5, I'll provide an overview of our technology, our targets for desalination and results to date. As Ty described, we teamed up with a top tier technology and manufacturing partner that specializes in industrial refrigeration and freezing, where they serve clients across food services, industrial temperature control and nuclear power plants. TPL collaborated with for the equipment used toward for the equipment used toward produced water application. In addition, TPL has filed for a process patent utilizing fractional free desalination to treat produced water for beneficial reuse. There are a couple other competing desalination technologies on the market today with many of them focused on heat distillation. Speaker 300:14:49Heat distillation can require a temperature change of 120 to 140 degrees Fahrenheit and additional energy to condense the vapor back into liquid form. However, our freeze technology uses less energy as it recovers heat from the incoming produced water and requires temperature change at a fraction of what is required for heat distillation. With our current R and D test unit, we've been running extensive optimization testing as we closely monitor time spent in pull down and freezing, the progression of ice formation, salinity reduction, anion cation reduction and energy efficiency among other factors. We had power meters installed at basically every step, so we knew how much power was being used by each piece of equipment. We have a better understanding on the various trade offs such as higher pressure and higher analyte production or reduced power consumption. Speaker 300:15:39We have gained a lot of valuable insights that we can now apply as we look to scale up and enhance our next unit. We have a target matrix that we call 75 cubed. This represents our high level goals for desalination. First, it is a 75% volume reclamation, which means if we take 100 barrels of produced water, we can turn out 75 barrels of fully desalinated and treated water. We believe we're well on target to achieve this goal. Speaker 300:16:07The second goal is a 75% reduction in analytes. Here our goal is to remove analytes of concern. Our desalination technology is not just about freezing, rather it's a series of processes as we seek to create a very pure water. Again, we have already far exceeded this goal. And truly, our goal is to treat water not just to meet every regulatory parameter, but to exceed it. Speaker 300:16:31The final element of 75 cubes is a $0.75 per barrel treatment cost. This is where we have the most work left. Biggest operating expense item of any desalination is energy consumption. As mentioned earlier, we are metering every aspect of our equipment and process. We're working hard to find efficiencies. Speaker 300:16:49In addition, we continue to work with the utilities and developers as we seek options and novel solutions for electricity prices. Given the abundance of renewable power and natural gas prices that are negative at times in West Texas, we think we can find creative answers to bring our power cost down. We hope with this upcoming Phase 2, 10,000 barrel per day facility that we can make further process optimization and cost improvement. At $0.75 per barrel cost and desalinated high spec water, we believe our technology becomes economically cost competitive and environmentally superior versus traditional subsurface injection. Our desalination process produces excellent water quality along the most important parameters. Speaker 300:17:31Almost all semi volatile organic compounds, SVOCs and volatile organic compounds, VOCs are reduced well below the maximum containment levels. We have reduced PFAS, radionuclides and metals to trivial levels. In addition, we are working with premier research institutions to examine water analytes that are not traditionally tested. Our goal isn't just to meet the regulatory requirements. We want to exceed across every possible parameter that can be measured and tested. Speaker 300:17:59We are striving for the absolute best quality freshwater we can achieve. Turning to Slide 6, where I will talk about our progress with Beneficial Reuse. There are multiple aspects to our Beneficial Reuse endeavors. 1st is our greenhouse pilot. This pilot was used to test discharge and irrigation potential for various native plants. Speaker 300:18:20In our Midland yard, we built a greenhouse where we gathered local soils from Loving and Reach County and then we planted various native plants in alfalfa. We're working with New Mexico State University, which has one of the premier labs and research facilities for plant and soil testing. The results from this pilot have been very positive. Data from this pilot was used for a Railroad Commission land application permit and TPL was granted the 1st permit in the state in February of this year. With that permit, TPL is expanding the facility to include an outdoor field of alfalfa to study the effects in the natural environment. Speaker 300:18:54That outdoor plot is currently under construction. TPL will share water, soil and plant data from the greenhouse pilot with regulatory agencies, operators and universities to help the industry further develop standards and beneficial reuse technologies. Lastly, we have applied for Texas Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit with Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, otherwise referred to as the TCQ. This permit relates to discharging treated desalinated produced water into tributaries in the upper region of the Pecos River. Given our multi step desalination process produces high spec fresh water, we will add that salt and alkalinity to match the Pecos River water quality. Speaker 300:19:34We will utilize a batch release system to thoroughly analyze all water prior to environmental release. DPL's priority is to go above and beyond the standard environmental assessment to assure safety and longevity of the project. Now turning to Slide 7 for an environmental and regulatory overview. I've already discussed the latest on our regulatory efforts with the last couple of slides, but I'll just reiterate that TPL is committed to the highest standards in environmental stewardship. Our goal is to not just meet the regulatory standards, but to exceed them. Speaker 300:20:05As many of you know, PPL owns nearly 1,000,000 surface acres and the surface owners we have every incentive to maintain and enhance the environmental quality of our acreage. We consider our surface to be extremely valuable and we've always managed our surface assets to preserve its sustainability attributes for future generations. Now turning to Slide 8 for our key milestones accomplished to date and further timeline. We've talked a lot about the progress we've made already. We successfully tested a pilot, multi step desalination system. Speaker 300:20:37We've made significant headway on the beneficial REITs and regulatory efforts. In terms of our near term priorities, we are working to move forward with a larger 10,000 barrel per day test facility and to execute 1 or more commercial agreements. We have begun equipment procurement. The facility is expected to cost approximately $20,000,000 on a 100% basis. So our aim is to offset costs with any commercial arrangement. Speaker 300:21:02Longer term, should the next test facility prove successful, then we would move toward Phase 3, which is the development of a large scale 100,000 barrel per day facility. With demand for produced water desalination of potentially millions of barrels per day, widespread desalination adoption as we do not intend for TPL to be primarily responsible for self funding and developing this infrastructure. Although the exact commercial arrangements remain to be seen, we have a successful track record of executing contracts that ultimately provide TPL with a very valuable high margin capital wide cash flow stream. That said, we have a lot of work to do before we get there. We still need to build this initial Phase 2 facility. Speaker 300:21:50We have a lot of engineering and technical work ahead of us. We need to keep driving costs down. We have to execute on our various beneficial reuse endeavors. We're excited with our progress so far. The team here is working incredibly hard. Speaker 300:22:03The Permian needs to find a solution for produced water and I believe TPL is going to play a key role in that future. With that, I will hand the call over to Chris. Speaker 400:22:11Thanks, Robert. Consolidated revenues during the Q1 2024 were approximately $174,000,000 representing 4% sequential quarter over quarter growth. Adjusted EBITDA was $152,000,000 and free cash flow was $115,000,000 for the Q1. Free cash flow for the quarter grew 30% on a year over year basis driven by higher royalty production, source water sales, produced water royalties and easements and other surface related income and partially offset by lower natural gas and NGL prices. Weak Waha natural gas prices have negatively impacted natural gas realizations in March April of this year. Speaker 400:22:56We do expect low Waha prices in Q2 2024 to continue putting downward pressure on gas realizations, though we expect this to be somewhat mitigated by the stronger realizations that supermajor and large independent operators generally receive. Our realizations on oil continue to be very strong, generally at 100% of WTI Cushing. Our near term well inventory remains elevated relative to historical levels. At the end of the quarter, we had 5.1 net permitted wells, 10.3 net drilled but uncompleted wells and 2.2 net completed not yet producing wells. This near term inventory gives us confidence that our royalty production remains on a growth trend. Speaker 400:23:41To conclude, PPL is in an enviable position today. Our balance sheet is the strongest it's ever been. We still maintain top tier cash flow and profitability margins. Today's disclosure of our efforts with produced water desalination is a great testament to the team and for the multiple elements of upside the business has with its unique surface ownership. TPL continues to generate substantial free cash flow and we are in an excellent position to drive value. Speaker 400:24:09And with that operator, we will now take Operator00:24:14questions. Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. The first question comes from the line of Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financials. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:24:50Hey, good morning. First off, I just wanted to ask about your water desalination. What is the reason to highlight it now? Is it the scientific breakthrough? Or do you think you're at a point where you can get revenue soon? Speaker 500:25:07Or is it really to let investors know about the CapEx that's required going forward? Speaker 600:25:15This is Robert. Thank you for the question. I think it's a combination of everything you just said. It is a capital investment and we felt it prudent to let investors know and shareholders know that it is for now it's a $20,000,000 investment. While we're looking to offset that PPO, we'll have some capital burden in the near term. Speaker 600:25:35Additionally, the talk of water in the Permian is another reason and the press that we've been getting on our technology. We've played a very heavy focus on the regulatory front and also on the institutional research front and we thought it prudent at this time to announce. Speaker 500:25:54And then as far as water sales is concerned, do you think this is sustainable level? I mean, last year, you had a record number, but it sounded like it was one time related. Is this more sustainable? Speaker 700:26:11Well, I think Q2 of last year was a record quarter for water sales. We were right there close this quarter. And looking at the sales schedule for Q2 this year, we've got some really strong numbers on the schedule, a lot of wells to be completed. So I think we will continue to put up strong numbers on that front. Speaker 500:26:37Okay. And last question here is that, could you just talk about what your expectations here are with the capital you're adding on to the balance sheet? Is it just focused on the water business that you're now expanding the technology? There was a Reuters article this past week about Oxy looking to sell some land. What are your intentions here? Speaker 400:27:04Hey, Matt. I think our general capital allocation thoughts are really still kind of unchanged from what we talked about during the last earnings call. Certainly, we continue to look and different opportunities are available. It's a constant topic of discussion between management and the Board. And right now we're happy with kind of the direction and where that cash is, but it's certainly something that is always a topic and we're always looking for the best way to deploy that capital when the opportunity arises. Speaker 500:27:46Okay. Thank you. Speaker 300:27:48Thanks, Amit. Operator00:27:50Thank you. Next question comes from the line of John Annes with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:27:58Hey, good morning guys and thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to focus in on the announcement of your desalination and beneficially reuse efforts, which is really exciting stuff and timely given the growing sensitivities around Speaker 300:28:11impacts of oil Speaker 800:28:11and gas development in the Permian. To start and I apologize in advance for a dense question, but I wanted to try to get a better understanding of the beneficial reuse market and how the value chain works. With the freshwater that's produced from your process, can you talk more about the potential end markets, the size of those markets, any green incentives that you would be eligible for? And any potential applications for your process outside of the oil and gas industry? Speaker 600:28:47Sure. This is Robert. I'll take that. There's been a lot of discussion on the beneficial analytes and any downstream revenues that could come from the distillate water of beneficial reuse technologies. I think they're still emerging. Speaker 600:29:00There's a lot of discussion on hydrogen beneficial analytes such as lithium, water rights retention once this water is reintroduced. As those develop, our kind of marching orders was develop a technology and structure a commercial model that stand on its own legs. Anything that comes from a downstream revenue perspective will be great and it will further help the economics of beneficiaries. But when we look at it right now, we had to develop a treatment technology and a commercial model that fits within the upstream economics. Speaker 800:29:34Got it. And then with the $0.75 per barrel treatment cost you provided in the presentation, you mentioned that it becomes competitive with subsurface injection. Is that expectation based on the ongoing discussions you are having with customers? And then more broadly, how do you envision those commercial agreements for monetizing the water working? Speaker 600:29:59We don't have a firm commercial structure in place. I think this is a new concept for the industry in general. And beneficial reuse is going to be at a higher price per barrel than traditional injection. But it still has to be economic in the sense that it incentivizes the drill bit to continue to turn. The commercial model and the structure of it is still being developed. Speaker 600:30:20We're in talks right now with operators what that looks like. I think it's going to be a blend at least for TPL. It will be a blend of the traditional water midstream pricing and how we structure TPR from the get go. TPWR and our capital light Harmiters and business, we were able to leverage our surface acreage to not have to take the traditional role of water midstream. So our role in that commercial model, I think, is going to be a blend of the 2. Speaker 800:30:48Makes sense. Then I wanted to understand more about the operational complexities as you scale. What in your view are the biggest hurdles or technical challenges as you move from a larger pilot and then ultimately to a commercial scale facility? Speaker 600:31:09I think the regulatory piece is initially presenting some hurdles that we've tackled and I think we're getting over as we look at any beneficial reuse technology, energy consumption is 75% to 80% of the OpEx of any piece of it. And it's what we mentioned in the talk earlier, continuing to drive down cost on the energy perspective. It's why we went with this technology. But that's what that's the most work and complexity that we still have to do is being that energy does take up so much of that OpEx cost is ensuring that we can find an alternative energy source to come in line with those projected OpEx costs. Speaker 800:31:53Great. And then shifting back to your core businesses, you were able to achieve significant quarter over quarter revenue growth in water. Can you talk more about what drove that growth? And are you seeing any tailwinds on source water demand just with the increase of simulafrac development across industry that are generally more water Speaker 700:32:20intensive? Yes. We definitely are seeing some tailwind from simulfracs. Just the volume of water needed delivered to pad per day for those fracs is enormous. And I think the scale that we've built our business to is a huge competitive advantage for us. Speaker 700:32:38There's just not a lot of water providers that can provide those kind of volumes with as far reach as we have across the basin, especially on the Delaware side. So I think there's a lot of factors that are giving strength to that part of the business. Obviously, our vast surface footprint and the ability to move water further than other competitors is one of those as well. But I think we're going to continue to see strength in that business. And just I think the important thing to remember about our water business as well is we're involved in source water sales for completions. Speaker 700:33:22We're involved in reuse and treatment. We've got ore space for produced water disposal and now with this beneficial reuse technology that we're working on, we're really setting the company up to be a leader across the water industry as a whole. So no matter which way that aspect of the industry moves, I think TPL is well positioned to continue to gain market share across the board. Speaker 800:33:52Terrific. And for my last one, on the governance front, you recently announced the formation of a strategic acquisition committee as a standing committee of the board. Would this mean that M and A will be a Board led rather than management led decision? I'm just trying to understand how that dynamic will work? Speaker 700:34:17Yes. We've had an ad hoc acquisition committee in the past, just to kind of bet projects that management is working on before we take it to full board and make sure that we've got buy in from that committee. So this is just kind of formalizing that with a standing committee. So it gives management the opportunity to vet new projects, get some feedback before we take it to the full Board. So that's the purpose of the committee. Speaker 800:34:45Perfect. I appreciate all the color and thanks again for taking my questions. Speaker 700:34:50Yes. Thanks, John. Operator00:34:52Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways In Q1 2024, TPL delivered 19% sequential revenue growth in water sales, produced water royalties and surface income (totaling about $81 million and ~50% of consolidated revenues), with record water sales of $37 million, free cash flow of $115 million and a net cash position of $837 million. The company has pioneered an energy-efficient fractional freezing desalination process for produced water and is advancing a Phase 2 pilot facility (10,000 bbl/day expandable to 20,000 bbl/day) with a $20 million capex budget, targeting 75% water reclamation, 75% analyte reduction and treatment costs below $0.75 per barrel. Through its Transmissive Water Services LLC subsidiary, TPL is negotiating commercial agreements with upstream operators to help offset pilot costs and aims to structure revenue-aligned partnerships as it scales up desalination and reuse solutions. Beneficial reuse initiatives include a greenhouse pilot (greenhouse and outdoor alfalfa plots) approved by the Texas Railroad Commission, and a pending TCEQ permit to discharge treated water into Pecos River tributaries, all in collaboration with research institutions and regulators. With Permian produced water volumes straining disposal via traditional reinjection (due to seismic response areas and shallower injection complexities), TPL’s integrated surface, treatment and pore-space footprint (100,000+ acres acquired) positions it to offer multi-pronged water management solutions. AI Generated. 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Sign up for Earnings360's daily newsletter to receive timely earnings updates on Texas Pacific Land and other key companies, straight to your email. Email Address About Texas Pacific LandTexas Pacific Land (NYSE:TPL) engages in the land and resource management, and water services and operations businesses. The company owns a 1/128th nonparticipating perpetual oil and gas royalty interest (NPRI) under approximately 85,000 acres of land; a 1/16th NPRI under approximately 371,000 acres of land; and approximately 4,000 additional net royalty acres, total of approximately 195,000 NRA located in the western part of Texas. The Land and Resource Management segment manages surface acres of land, and oil and gas royalty interest in West Texas. This segment also engages in easements, such as transporting oil, gas and related hydrocarbons, power line and utility, and subsurface wellbore easements. In addition, this segment leases its land for processing, storage, and compression facilities and roads; and is involved in sale of materials, such as caliche, sand, and other material, as well as sells land. The Water Services and Operations segment provides full-service water offerings, including water sourcing, produced-water treatment, infrastructure development, and disposal solutions to operators in the Permian Basin. This segment also holds produced water royalties. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Sean Amini, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Thank you, Mr. Operator00:00:11Amini. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:15Thank you for joining us today for Texas Pacific Land Corporation's Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Yesterday afternoon, the company released its financial results and filed its Form 10 Q with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is available on the Investors section of the company's website at www.texpacific.com. In addition, the company has posted an investor presentation that we'll be referencing today. That presentation related to produced water desalination and beneficial reuse can be found in the Investors section of our website under Presentations. It is also posted under the Events section on our website, which can be accessed through the News and Media tab and then IR Calendar. Speaker 100:00:54As a reminder, remarks made on today's conference call may include forward looking statements. Forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed today. We do not undertake any obligation to update our forward looking statements in light of new information or future events. For a more detailed discussion of the factors that may affect the company's results, please refer to our earnings release for this quarter and to our most recent SEC filings. During this call, we will also be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:01:23More information and reconciliations about these non GAAP financial measures are contained in our earnings release and SEC filings. Please also note, we may at times refer to our company by its stock ticker, TPL. This morning's conference call is hosted by TPL's Chief Executive Officer, Ty Glover Executive Vice President of Texas Pacific Water Resources, Robert Crane and TPL's Chief Financial Officer, Chris Stedham. Management will make some prepared comments, after which we will open the call for questions. Now, I will turn the call over to Ty. Speaker 200:01:53Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Driven by the continued strength of our surface derived cash flows, our Q1 2024 results are an excellent start to the year. Water sales, produced water royalties and easements and other surface related income in aggregate had revenue growth of 19% sequential quarter over quarter, which totaled approximately $81,000,000 and accounted for nearly 50% of total consolidated revenues. This was another especially great quarter for water sales as it generated $37,000,000 of revenues, which was nearly a company record. Our source water asset footprint combined with our excellent staff were able to push volumes throughout the Permian Basin with 72% of volumes occurring outside of TPL's surface acreage. Speaker 200:02:41Oil and gas royalty production of approximately 24,800 barrels of oil equivalent per day also represents strong performance. Our near term inventory of permits and drilled but uncompleted wells remain at robust levels, which combined with high activity levels on our water and surface assets indicates royalty production will continue to perform well. On capital allocation, the company and our Board continue to evaluate all of our options as the business continues to generate considerable free cash flow and maintains a net cash position of $837,000,000 This affords us tremendous ability to drive value throughout the energy cycle. I do want to spend the majority of my time this morning talking about some exciting news for TBL. As Sean mentioned, we posted a presentation relating to produced water desalination and beneficial reuse, and I will be referencing those slides. Speaker 200:03:34Our remarks today will serve 2 purposes. 1st, Speaker 300:03:38to give Speaker 200:03:38an update on our technology efforts related to produced water and second, to give an understanding of the state of the produced water market in the Permian today, the latter of which has been getting an increasing amount of attention throughout the industry. Starting with Slide 2, there are 2 components to what we announced yesterday. First, we have developed a promising new energy efficient method of produced water desalination. Although water desalination can be done today utilizing multiple methods and technologies, the challenge has always been doing so cost effectively. Desalinating produced water also presents some unique challenges compared to normal ocean or brine water. Speaker 200:04:20Over the last few years, our team has been studying a wide array of technologies, hoping to find something that could work economically at scale in the oilfield. It may seem both simple yet counterintuitive, but we wondered if we could leverage a process that happens every day in people's home, water turning into ice. We began to look more closely at this process, which is also referred to as fractional freezing. At first glance, it seemed nonsensical to make ice in the desert in West Texas. However, after running in house experiments and further research, we pursued the idea in earnest. Speaker 200:04:57We reached out to a leading industrial technology and manufacturing firm located here in the United States. Over the course of a couple of years, we collaborated on various ideas and techniques. After eventually finding success with the prototype, we quickly constructed a small scale test unit in TPL's R and D facility in Midland. That test trial was a success and we are moving forward with a larger test facility capable of processing 10,000 produced water barrels per day with expansion potential to 20,000 barrels per day. The second aspect of our announcement relates to beneficial reuse. Speaker 200:05:33If we're able to desalinate produced water economically at scale, then it opens up a world of possibilities in terms of what to do with that water. We've been conducting detailed studies in our lab to understand whether desalinated produced water could be used to grow various crops and native grasses. Our lab has a greenhouse, which is pictured on this slide. Here we use various local soils and native plants to understand the impact of utilizing fully desalinated and treated water. In addition to the extensive in house testing and analytic capabilities, we have also partnered with leading research institutions specializing in water quality, soil and plant testing. Speaker 200:06:16We have another parallel beneficial reuse program underway as we are exploring discharge of desalinated and fully treated water into tributaries that feed into the Pecos River and potentially direct discharge to the surface for aquifer recharge. Across both of these beneficial reuse paths, we are working closely with regulators and have made significant progress with both permitting and stakeholder engagement. Robert Crane, who leads our water team, will discuss these desalination and beneficial reuse initiatives in greater detail later on this call. Ultimately, if everything goes well, our intent is to bring large scale produced water desalination solutions to the Permian Basin. TPL has created a subsidiary called Transmissive Water Services LLC to house our desalination and beneficial reuse efforts. Speaker 200:07:06Transmissive is a wholly owned subsidiary of Texas Pacific Water Resources LLC or TPWR for short, which itself is a wholly owned subsidiary of TPL. We are currently in commercial negotiations with blue chip upstream operators as we move towards the next phase of constructing a larger desalination test facility. Interest has been incredibly high as oil and gas operators understand how critical this type technology is to keep the Permian oil and gas machine going. This first 10,000 barrel per day facility, which we refer to as Phase 2, will cost approximately $20,000,000 on a 100% basis. So our aim is to offset a substantial amount of TPL capital costs with any commercial arrangement. Speaker 200:07:53Longer term, our intent and desire is to structure commercial arrangements that align with TPL's ongoing business cash flows. We've had tremendous success with that model in the past as our team was able to turn TPL's raw surface acreage ownership into a business that last year collectively generated over $250,000,000 of high margin revenue. So we have the proven track record. Sure, our desalination technology and beneficial reuse advances get to a point where we can help launch a large scale build out throughout the Permian Basin, I'm confident in our ability to execute agreements in strategic partnerships in a manner that generates significant shareholder value. Turning to Slide 3, titled produced water overview. Speaker 200:08:42These next couple of slides are for the benefit of current and prospective investors that may not be completely apprised at the state of the Permian produced water market. But I'd like to provide additional context around what TPL is trying to solve. The term produced water refers to the water that is a co product from a producing oil and gas well. This water has very high salinity levels and contains oil and suspended solids and heavy metals. Because untreated produced water is not safe for crop irrigation or municipal use, there are 2 methods in which the industry deals with it. Speaker 200:09:18The most common method is to re inject produced water back subsurface. For many years, the water was injected into subsurface formations either above or below oil bearing shale formations. Due to the high levels of development activity and high water cuts experienced in the Permian Basin, the industry has begun to experience constraints concerning traditional disposal into both of these zones. The high volumes of deep formation injection is suspected to cause seismicity in local areas as injected water can find its way into natural faults. The Texas Railroad Commission, which regulates the oil and gas industry in Texas, has responded by instituting numerous seismic response areas or SRAs in certain regions. Speaker 200:10:03These SRAs have put restrictions on how much water can be injected. The industry has since pivoted to injection strictly targeting the shallower formations, hoping to avoid some of the faulting issues. Although injection into shallow formations does work, it presents additional complexity for upstream operators who plan to develop overlapping oil and gas acreage, which they would now potentially be drilling through a more highly pressured zone. The other common solution for produced water today is to reuse or recycle that water for oil and gas completion activities, otherwise known as fracking. Upstream operators can use raw produced or lightly treated produced water to complete new wells. Speaker 200:10:47However, given the sheer amount of produced water volumes that come from the Permian, even if operators were to use only produced water in their completion activities, the Permian could still have north of 10,000,000 barrels of produced water that would need to find a home. Turning to Slide 4. The Permian is recognized as an oil and gas powerhouse. Oil production today is over 6,000,000 barrels per day, which is more than other well known oil producing nations such as Iraq, Iran and Kuwait. However, one unique aspect of the Permian is its relatively high water to oil ratio. Speaker 200:11:26The Delaware side of the Permian has an especially high water to oil ratio of nearly 4 times. Despite the high water cuts, robust drilling economics in the Delaware has driven a strong ramp in activity, has generated a commensurate increase in produced water. Today, the industry is finding it increasingly difficult to handle all of this water. Given TPL's long standing actively managed vertically integrated water business, this is a dynamic bet we've seen coming for quite some time now. Over the last few years, we actively sought to increase our capabilities across every aspect of produced water solutions. Speaker 200:12:03This is why we began investing so much effort into desalination R and D years ago. We've also significantly increased our treatment capacity for traditional produced water reuse. And finally, we've made a concerted effort to increase our pore space ownership. Through various bolt ons, we managed to purchase surface and subsurface pore space easements totaling over 100,000 acres. The pore space we've acquired combined with our legacy surface position is critical in providing long term solutions for produced water. Speaker 200:12:37In evaluating surface acreage to acquire, we often perform extensive pore space due diligence across attributes such as capacity, formation pressures and fault and seismic mapping. Although we are well positioned to facilitate traditional produced water injection for years to come, we knew the industry needed additional solutions. There's still a lot of work and testing to be done with our emerging technology, though we are encouraged and excited with what we've seen so far. As we presented our technology to potential partners, customers and regulators, the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. We've received immense interest from operators to deploy the test facility near their development areas, not just in the Permian, but also in other major oil and gas basins in the U. Speaker 200:13:23S. I'm extremely proud of the team here for their innovation, dedication and talent Their efforts will be critical in sustaining the positive momentum of Permian development over the long term. With that, I will turn the call over to Robert. Speaker 300:13:38Thanks, Ty. For those of you that don't know me, I run TPWR. I joined TPL in 2017 and Ty recruited me to help build out TPL's nascent water business. Prior to TPL, I led water resource development efforts for EOG Resources across multiple basins, including the Permian and Eagle Ford. Excited to be here today and talk about water. Speaker 300:13:58Turning to Slide 5, I'll provide an overview of our technology, our targets for desalination and results to date. As Ty described, we teamed up with a top tier technology and manufacturing partner that specializes in industrial refrigeration and freezing, where they serve clients across food services, industrial temperature control and nuclear power plants. TPL collaborated with for the equipment used toward for the equipment used toward produced water application. In addition, TPL has filed for a process patent utilizing fractional free desalination to treat produced water for beneficial reuse. There are a couple other competing desalination technologies on the market today with many of them focused on heat distillation. Speaker 300:14:49Heat distillation can require a temperature change of 120 to 140 degrees Fahrenheit and additional energy to condense the vapor back into liquid form. However, our freeze technology uses less energy as it recovers heat from the incoming produced water and requires temperature change at a fraction of what is required for heat distillation. With our current R and D test unit, we've been running extensive optimization testing as we closely monitor time spent in pull down and freezing, the progression of ice formation, salinity reduction, anion cation reduction and energy efficiency among other factors. We had power meters installed at basically every step, so we knew how much power was being used by each piece of equipment. We have a better understanding on the various trade offs such as higher pressure and higher analyte production or reduced power consumption. Speaker 300:15:39We have gained a lot of valuable insights that we can now apply as we look to scale up and enhance our next unit. We have a target matrix that we call 75 cubed. This represents our high level goals for desalination. First, it is a 75% volume reclamation, which means if we take 100 barrels of produced water, we can turn out 75 barrels of fully desalinated and treated water. We believe we're well on target to achieve this goal. Speaker 300:16:07The second goal is a 75% reduction in analytes. Here our goal is to remove analytes of concern. Our desalination technology is not just about freezing, rather it's a series of processes as we seek to create a very pure water. Again, we have already far exceeded this goal. And truly, our goal is to treat water not just to meet every regulatory parameter, but to exceed it. Speaker 300:16:31The final element of 75 cubes is a $0.75 per barrel treatment cost. This is where we have the most work left. Biggest operating expense item of any desalination is energy consumption. As mentioned earlier, we are metering every aspect of our equipment and process. We're working hard to find efficiencies. Speaker 300:16:49In addition, we continue to work with the utilities and developers as we seek options and novel solutions for electricity prices. Given the abundance of renewable power and natural gas prices that are negative at times in West Texas, we think we can find creative answers to bring our power cost down. We hope with this upcoming Phase 2, 10,000 barrel per day facility that we can make further process optimization and cost improvement. At $0.75 per barrel cost and desalinated high spec water, we believe our technology becomes economically cost competitive and environmentally superior versus traditional subsurface injection. Our desalination process produces excellent water quality along the most important parameters. Speaker 300:17:31Almost all semi volatile organic compounds, SVOCs and volatile organic compounds, VOCs are reduced well below the maximum containment levels. We have reduced PFAS, radionuclides and metals to trivial levels. In addition, we are working with premier research institutions to examine water analytes that are not traditionally tested. Our goal isn't just to meet the regulatory requirements. We want to exceed across every possible parameter that can be measured and tested. Speaker 300:17:59We are striving for the absolute best quality freshwater we can achieve. Turning to Slide 6, where I will talk about our progress with Beneficial Reuse. There are multiple aspects to our Beneficial Reuse endeavors. 1st is our greenhouse pilot. This pilot was used to test discharge and irrigation potential for various native plants. Speaker 300:18:20In our Midland yard, we built a greenhouse where we gathered local soils from Loving and Reach County and then we planted various native plants in alfalfa. We're working with New Mexico State University, which has one of the premier labs and research facilities for plant and soil testing. The results from this pilot have been very positive. Data from this pilot was used for a Railroad Commission land application permit and TPL was granted the 1st permit in the state in February of this year. With that permit, TPL is expanding the facility to include an outdoor field of alfalfa to study the effects in the natural environment. Speaker 300:18:54That outdoor plot is currently under construction. TPL will share water, soil and plant data from the greenhouse pilot with regulatory agencies, operators and universities to help the industry further develop standards and beneficial reuse technologies. Lastly, we have applied for Texas Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit with Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, otherwise referred to as the TCQ. This permit relates to discharging treated desalinated produced water into tributaries in the upper region of the Pecos River. Given our multi step desalination process produces high spec fresh water, we will add that salt and alkalinity to match the Pecos River water quality. Speaker 300:19:34We will utilize a batch release system to thoroughly analyze all water prior to environmental release. DPL's priority is to go above and beyond the standard environmental assessment to assure safety and longevity of the project. Now turning to Slide 7 for an environmental and regulatory overview. I've already discussed the latest on our regulatory efforts with the last couple of slides, but I'll just reiterate that TPL is committed to the highest standards in environmental stewardship. Our goal is to not just meet the regulatory standards, but to exceed them. Speaker 300:20:05As many of you know, PPL owns nearly 1,000,000 surface acres and the surface owners we have every incentive to maintain and enhance the environmental quality of our acreage. We consider our surface to be extremely valuable and we've always managed our surface assets to preserve its sustainability attributes for future generations. Now turning to Slide 8 for our key milestones accomplished to date and further timeline. We've talked a lot about the progress we've made already. We successfully tested a pilot, multi step desalination system. Speaker 300:20:37We've made significant headway on the beneficial REITs and regulatory efforts. In terms of our near term priorities, we are working to move forward with a larger 10,000 barrel per day test facility and to execute 1 or more commercial agreements. We have begun equipment procurement. The facility is expected to cost approximately $20,000,000 on a 100% basis. So our aim is to offset costs with any commercial arrangement. Speaker 300:21:02Longer term, should the next test facility prove successful, then we would move toward Phase 3, which is the development of a large scale 100,000 barrel per day facility. With demand for produced water desalination of potentially millions of barrels per day, widespread desalination adoption as we do not intend for TPL to be primarily responsible for self funding and developing this infrastructure. Although the exact commercial arrangements remain to be seen, we have a successful track record of executing contracts that ultimately provide TPL with a very valuable high margin capital wide cash flow stream. That said, we have a lot of work to do before we get there. We still need to build this initial Phase 2 facility. Speaker 300:21:50We have a lot of engineering and technical work ahead of us. We need to keep driving costs down. We have to execute on our various beneficial reuse endeavors. We're excited with our progress so far. The team here is working incredibly hard. Speaker 300:22:03The Permian needs to find a solution for produced water and I believe TPL is going to play a key role in that future. With that, I will hand the call over to Chris. Speaker 400:22:11Thanks, Robert. Consolidated revenues during the Q1 2024 were approximately $174,000,000 representing 4% sequential quarter over quarter growth. Adjusted EBITDA was $152,000,000 and free cash flow was $115,000,000 for the Q1. Free cash flow for the quarter grew 30% on a year over year basis driven by higher royalty production, source water sales, produced water royalties and easements and other surface related income and partially offset by lower natural gas and NGL prices. Weak Waha natural gas prices have negatively impacted natural gas realizations in March April of this year. Speaker 400:22:56We do expect low Waha prices in Q2 2024 to continue putting downward pressure on gas realizations, though we expect this to be somewhat mitigated by the stronger realizations that supermajor and large independent operators generally receive. Our realizations on oil continue to be very strong, generally at 100% of WTI Cushing. Our near term well inventory remains elevated relative to historical levels. At the end of the quarter, we had 5.1 net permitted wells, 10.3 net drilled but uncompleted wells and 2.2 net completed not yet producing wells. This near term inventory gives us confidence that our royalty production remains on a growth trend. Speaker 400:23:41To conclude, PPL is in an enviable position today. Our balance sheet is the strongest it's ever been. We still maintain top tier cash flow and profitability margins. Today's disclosure of our efforts with produced water desalination is a great testament to the team and for the multiple elements of upside the business has with its unique surface ownership. TPL continues to generate substantial free cash flow and we are in an excellent position to drive value. Speaker 400:24:09And with that operator, we will now take Operator00:24:14questions. Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. The first question comes from the line of Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financials. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:24:50Hey, good morning. First off, I just wanted to ask about your water desalination. What is the reason to highlight it now? Is it the scientific breakthrough? Or do you think you're at a point where you can get revenue soon? Speaker 500:25:07Or is it really to let investors know about the CapEx that's required going forward? Speaker 600:25:15This is Robert. Thank you for the question. I think it's a combination of everything you just said. It is a capital investment and we felt it prudent to let investors know and shareholders know that it is for now it's a $20,000,000 investment. While we're looking to offset that PPO, we'll have some capital burden in the near term. Speaker 600:25:35Additionally, the talk of water in the Permian is another reason and the press that we've been getting on our technology. We've played a very heavy focus on the regulatory front and also on the institutional research front and we thought it prudent at this time to announce. Speaker 500:25:54And then as far as water sales is concerned, do you think this is sustainable level? I mean, last year, you had a record number, but it sounded like it was one time related. Is this more sustainable? Speaker 700:26:11Well, I think Q2 of last year was a record quarter for water sales. We were right there close this quarter. And looking at the sales schedule for Q2 this year, we've got some really strong numbers on the schedule, a lot of wells to be completed. So I think we will continue to put up strong numbers on that front. Speaker 500:26:37Okay. And last question here is that, could you just talk about what your expectations here are with the capital you're adding on to the balance sheet? Is it just focused on the water business that you're now expanding the technology? There was a Reuters article this past week about Oxy looking to sell some land. What are your intentions here? Speaker 400:27:04Hey, Matt. I think our general capital allocation thoughts are really still kind of unchanged from what we talked about during the last earnings call. Certainly, we continue to look and different opportunities are available. It's a constant topic of discussion between management and the Board. And right now we're happy with kind of the direction and where that cash is, but it's certainly something that is always a topic and we're always looking for the best way to deploy that capital when the opportunity arises. Speaker 500:27:46Okay. Thank you. Speaker 300:27:48Thanks, Amit. Operator00:27:50Thank you. Next question comes from the line of John Annes with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:27:58Hey, good morning guys and thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to focus in on the announcement of your desalination and beneficially reuse efforts, which is really exciting stuff and timely given the growing sensitivities around Speaker 300:28:11impacts of oil Speaker 800:28:11and gas development in the Permian. To start and I apologize in advance for a dense question, but I wanted to try to get a better understanding of the beneficial reuse market and how the value chain works. With the freshwater that's produced from your process, can you talk more about the potential end markets, the size of those markets, any green incentives that you would be eligible for? And any potential applications for your process outside of the oil and gas industry? Speaker 600:28:47Sure. This is Robert. I'll take that. There's been a lot of discussion on the beneficial analytes and any downstream revenues that could come from the distillate water of beneficial reuse technologies. I think they're still emerging. Speaker 600:29:00There's a lot of discussion on hydrogen beneficial analytes such as lithium, water rights retention once this water is reintroduced. As those develop, our kind of marching orders was develop a technology and structure a commercial model that stand on its own legs. Anything that comes from a downstream revenue perspective will be great and it will further help the economics of beneficiaries. But when we look at it right now, we had to develop a treatment technology and a commercial model that fits within the upstream economics. Speaker 800:29:34Got it. And then with the $0.75 per barrel treatment cost you provided in the presentation, you mentioned that it becomes competitive with subsurface injection. Is that expectation based on the ongoing discussions you are having with customers? And then more broadly, how do you envision those commercial agreements for monetizing the water working? Speaker 600:29:59We don't have a firm commercial structure in place. I think this is a new concept for the industry in general. And beneficial reuse is going to be at a higher price per barrel than traditional injection. But it still has to be economic in the sense that it incentivizes the drill bit to continue to turn. The commercial model and the structure of it is still being developed. Speaker 600:30:20We're in talks right now with operators what that looks like. I think it's going to be a blend at least for TPL. It will be a blend of the traditional water midstream pricing and how we structure TPR from the get go. TPWR and our capital light Harmiters and business, we were able to leverage our surface acreage to not have to take the traditional role of water midstream. So our role in that commercial model, I think, is going to be a blend of the 2. Speaker 800:30:48Makes sense. Then I wanted to understand more about the operational complexities as you scale. What in your view are the biggest hurdles or technical challenges as you move from a larger pilot and then ultimately to a commercial scale facility? Speaker 600:31:09I think the regulatory piece is initially presenting some hurdles that we've tackled and I think we're getting over as we look at any beneficial reuse technology, energy consumption is 75% to 80% of the OpEx of any piece of it. And it's what we mentioned in the talk earlier, continuing to drive down cost on the energy perspective. It's why we went with this technology. But that's what that's the most work and complexity that we still have to do is being that energy does take up so much of that OpEx cost is ensuring that we can find an alternative energy source to come in line with those projected OpEx costs. Speaker 800:31:53Great. And then shifting back to your core businesses, you were able to achieve significant quarter over quarter revenue growth in water. Can you talk more about what drove that growth? And are you seeing any tailwinds on source water demand just with the increase of simulafrac development across industry that are generally more water Speaker 700:32:20intensive? Yes. We definitely are seeing some tailwind from simulfracs. Just the volume of water needed delivered to pad per day for those fracs is enormous. And I think the scale that we've built our business to is a huge competitive advantage for us. Speaker 700:32:38There's just not a lot of water providers that can provide those kind of volumes with as far reach as we have across the basin, especially on the Delaware side. So I think there's a lot of factors that are giving strength to that part of the business. Obviously, our vast surface footprint and the ability to move water further than other competitors is one of those as well. But I think we're going to continue to see strength in that business. And just I think the important thing to remember about our water business as well is we're involved in source water sales for completions. Speaker 700:33:22We're involved in reuse and treatment. We've got ore space for produced water disposal and now with this beneficial reuse technology that we're working on, we're really setting the company up to be a leader across the water industry as a whole. So no matter which way that aspect of the industry moves, I think TPL is well positioned to continue to gain market share across the board. Speaker 800:33:52Terrific. And for my last one, on the governance front, you recently announced the formation of a strategic acquisition committee as a standing committee of the board. Would this mean that M and A will be a Board led rather than management led decision? I'm just trying to understand how that dynamic will work? Speaker 700:34:17Yes. We've had an ad hoc acquisition committee in the past, just to kind of bet projects that management is working on before we take it to full board and make sure that we've got buy in from that committee. So this is just kind of formalizing that with a standing committee. So it gives management the opportunity to vet new projects, get some feedback before we take it to the full Board. So that's the purpose of the committee. Speaker 800:34:45Perfect. I appreciate all the color and thanks again for taking my questions. Speaker 700:34:50Yes. Thanks, John. Operator00:34:52Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by