NASDAQ:PETS PetMed Express Q4 2024 Earnings Report $3.92 +0.20 (+5.38%) As of 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast PetMed Express EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.25Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/APetMed Express Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$66.50 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/APetMed Express Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date6/11/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, June 11, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsPetMed Express' Q4 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, June 10, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by PetMed Express Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJune 11, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings and welcome to the PetMed Express 4th Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Speaker 100:00:17It is now Operator00:00:17my pleasure to introduce your host, John Mills with ICR. You may begin. Speaker 200:00:23Thank you, operator, and I'd like to welcome everybody here today to the PetMed Express fiscal 4th quarter 2024 earnings conference call. Certain information that will be included during this call may include forward looking statements within the meaning the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, that may involve a number of risks and uncertainties. These statements are based on our beliefs as well as assumptions we have used based upon information currently available to us. Because these statements reflect our current views concerning future events, these statements involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Actual results could differ materially from those projected. Speaker 200:01:09There can be no assurance that any forward looking results will occur or be realized. And nothing contained in this presentation is or should be relied upon as a representation or warranty as to any future matters, including any matter in respect of the operations or business or financial condition of PetMed. PetMed undertakes no obligation to update publicly these forward looking statements based on subsequent events, except as may be required by applicable law, regulation or other competent legal authority. We've identified various risk factors associated with our operations in our most recent annual report and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Now let me turn the call over to our CEO and President, Sandra Campos. Speaker 200:01:57Sandra? Speaker 300:01:59Thanks, John, and thank you to everyone for joining our conference call today. It is a true pleasure to speak with all of you for the first time. Let me just start by saying how incredibly honored I am to leave this company at such a pivotal point. Pets, which includes PetMeds and PetCareRx is very much at the intersection of my personal and professional passion. That along with the ability to transform a business within a growing sector is what ultimately attracted me to join the Board as an independent director just over a year ago. Speaker 300:02:29I personally have 8 rescue horses, 2 rescue dogs and one very talkative senior cat. I intimately understand the profound bond that exists between pets and their families and the importance of working with trusted veterinarians who provide the valuable patient care as well as the loyalty one has for a reputable retail provider that takes care of all of your animals' needs in an efficient, timely and professional manner. Throughout my retail and CPG career, I have consistently prioritized the needs of consumers and strive to establish disruptive, vibrant and enduring brands that fulfill their promises of quality and value to their communities. High scaled startups, led entrepreneurial enterprises, $1,000,000,000 brand portfolios and have managed businesses that are global in scope and I have an extensive background in end to end supply chain as well. In this new role, I have the ability to bring my knowledge and experiences to pets as we refocus our teams on being a customer centric mission based company whose primary goal is to empower pet families so that they can provide the best possible care for their dogs, cats and horses and help them in order to lead long and healthy lives. Speaker 300:03:44The market for pet medications, foods and health products and services is continuing to grow and servicing that market is what we've done really well since 1996. According to the American Pet Products Association, pet spending in the United States continues to increase and has increased by 7% to $147,000,000,000 in 2023. Veterinary care and prescription medications represented about 26% of that total spend or $38,300,000,000 That leads us to Pets, where we have an incredible opportunity ahead for growth in a sector that continues to expand. As an enterprise, we have some very positive key results. We filled almost 500,000 prescriptions and Rx Foods in the past 18 months. Speaker 300:04:31We continue to add new customers each year, 302,000 in fiscal 2024,274,000 new customers in fiscal 2023 or a 10% year over year increase. Our average order value is healthy and had a slight year over year increase to $94 for fiscal 2024 from $93 for fiscal 2023. While I've only been at the helm of this company for 4 weeks, I would like to share my view on the future for pets as well as some short term tactical and strategic objectives for our business. 1st, consolidation of our brands. We believe that our primary brands, namely PetMed and PetCareRx are known as being credible experts among pet owners and are synonymous with pet health and well-being. Speaker 300:05:22The consolidation of our brands into a single United company is driven by our commitment to streamline operations, lower our overall cost structure and increase the value proposition by enhancing efficiencies and providing a more cohesive customer experience. By bringing together brands that have the same mission and product assortment, we can leverage our combined strength, reduce redundancies and offer a unified stronger presence in the market. In the short term, our focus will be on improving fundamental processes, reducing operating expenses, while enhancing some of our core offerings such as our tiered membership model and our employer benefits partnership. We still characterize this as a work in process as we continue enhancing the program with additional partnerships that help families provide preventive care during all life stages of their pets. Secondly, continue focusing on cash flow generation while enhancing key partnerships. Speaker 300:06:20The company entered fiscal 2025 with a healthy liquidity position and will continue to monitor and manage cash flow through the consolidation of our 2 brands. Actions to preserve liquidity and maximize cash flows during fiscal 2025 will include, but will not be limited to the following: deepening our relationship with key suppliers to optimize our supply chain and improve margins managing future inventory through properly forecasting supply with expected demand ensuring that customers can find the products when they need them Reducing expenses to better align operating costs with sales through elimination of duplicative resources including agency and vendor consolidation. And focusing on operational efficiency and reducing order processing time at our fulfillment centers, pharmacy and call centers through tech enablement and automation. 3rd, customer retention, loyalty and frequency of visits. At the heart of our business process of advancing our customized technology that supports our auto ship program. Speaker 300:07:33From new features to seamless integration and facilitating the shopping experience, this is a high priority that drives higher customers' lifetime value and repeat purchases. We have just added a new Chief Digital and Technology Officer to lead these efforts who have tremendous background in this, Umesh Sherpaad. Our marketing strategy is a commitment to reinvigorate our communication initiative and deepen our engagement with consumers. And that we also have just added a Chief Marketing Officer, Carla Dodds, who also has extensive retail and e commerce experience. We are personalizing the customer journey through advanced AI customer segmentation marketing solutions. Speaker 300:08:14For bundling and cross selling opportunities across merchandising categories. And since Carla joined us just a couple of weeks ago, we are driving these initiatives today and going forward. The enrichment of our digital content library with the support of our veterinary advisory board is going to be something that will be connected to our easy checkout across all customer touch points. And lastly, we have some new customer acquisition priorities, which will also be part of our fully integrated marketing strategy as we go forward. Number 4, investment in technology, AI, automation across departments. Speaker 300:08:55We have begun the work of but we've already launched a single solution best in class call center for our pet health specialist with the phone system that goes live in August for a more seamless communication with our customers and our veterinary partners. We are also at work on the following: fulfillment logic to optimize operations across the 2 warehouse locations, along with adding 3PLs yet to be identified for reducing shipping costs and increasing speed to the customer store step. 2nd, enhancement of the pharmacy software for increased digitization and greater efficiency for our team. 3rd, business intelligence tools revamped to be able to enable faster decision making across our various operations that drive growth and profitability. The last MarTech AI tools for end to end efficiency and automation throughout the customer journey. Speaker 300:09:53We are well positioned to thrive as the leader in this growing industry. For over 2 decades, we've served millions of customers trusting us with the care of their beloved pets. Our competitive advantage is proven by our dedicated employees, consumers, veterinarians and vendors confidence that PetMeds and PetCareRx are synonymous with providing the best healthcare products for preventative care and acute or chronic conditions for dogs, cats and horses. We've invested heavily in our pharmacies at each location and we have pharmacists with specialties and veterinary pharmacology and licenses in all 50 states. The pharmacies are also accredited by the NABP and LegitScript and have excelled in all federal and state regulatory requirements that include a 5 point rigorous verification process from the time that we receive an order to the moment that we ship it to the customer. Speaker 300:10:46In creating an ecosystem for holistic pet wellness with a laser focus on the pet family needs, we believe that we have the ability to expand our position as a trusted go to leader. To best serve our customer needs, we have established strong vendor and strategic services partnerships with brand names that consumers recognize and trust for any of their pet health concerns. That includes our prescription and over the counter medication, supplements, supplies, food, both Rx and non Rx, insurance, telehealth, employer benefits, our Veterinary Advisory Board, our educational content that we provide, private label products that provide alternatives at accessible price points for the consumer. We are committed to connecting our customers to rich educational content from our professional and credible resources. Recently launched our Veterinary Advisory Board or the VAB as we are calling them has a goal of ensuring that all of our initiatives result in improved patient care. Speaker 300:11:51This esteemed board consists of 5 expert veterinarians across the country, each with decades of experience in private practice and academia shaping the future of veterinary medicine. Doctor. Lori Teller, DMZ, DAB VP for Canine and Feline, CVJ and Clinical Professor in the Department of Small Animal Clinical Sciences at Texas A&M University's School of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences serves as the liaison between the company and our veterinary advisory board. Doctor. Teller and her 4 colleagues bring a wealth of knowledge and experience, which will be instrumental in achieving our fiscal year 2025 goals and beyond. Speaker 300:12:32The VAB's extensive expertise will be leveraged across the organization from products to marketing and they will play a crucial role in advising the company on regulatory updates. Additionally, the VAB will support the development customer facing educational content about the vital role that veterinarians play in protecting family health. And most importantly, the VAB will be instrumental as we improve our veterinary facing portal through reducing friction, applying historical data and increasing usage to increase internal speed of transactions. Another key area of strength is our in house customer support team, who are pet health specialists. As a premium service to our customers, our in health pet specialists in the call center support more than 100,000 pet parent calls each month. Speaker 300:13:22Pet owners have the ability to contact our agents and pharmacists for assistance with their animals well-being via telephone, chat and email. We're in the process of consolidating our 2 teams and phone systems into 1 in order to ensure efficiency, consistency, scalability and reduce costs. The quality of our senior management team has been a key area of my initial focus for the past 4 weeks and I am thrilled to welcome 3 exceptional leaders who will play pivotal roles in driving our company's future growth and success. Carla Dodd joined us on May 28 as our new Chief Marketing Officer. Carla is a dynamic and inspiring marketer who brings a wealth of experience in consumer behavior, integrated marketing solutions, creating meaningful loyalty and partnership programs and increasing brand equity from enterprise companies such as Walmart, Mastercard and Penske Media Corporation. Speaker 300:14:17Caroline Canigliano joined us on June 10th as Chief Operating Officer, a newly created position for pets underscoring the importance of having a singular focus leader in this role. Her ability to seamlessly integrate analytical insights with creative solutions along with her proven track record in scaling businesses makes her an invaluable asset for our organization. Umesh Sheprad, our new Chief Digital and Technology Officer also joined the company on June 10. Umesh's expertise in driving successful technology implementation and creating seamless customer experiences from the likes of ikea.com, Overstock.com and Bed Bath and Beyond will significantly enhance our operational efficiency and effectiveness. Additionally, we as a Board determined that we needed we've added technology veteran, Justin Menon to the Independent Board of Directors. Speaker 300:15:17Justin brings enterprise level technology infrastructure, healthcare and cybersecurity expertise that will be extremely valuable as we modernize and transition our tech stack. I have no doubt that these key additions will allow us to be positioned to execute our strategy and to accelerate the growth of pets. Our ultimate goal is to position pets as the go to resource for pet health and wellness products, services and experiences through our ecosystem. Ensuring sustained growth and a thriving customer community requires a broad roadmap and a disciplined execution. 1st, we're going to create personalized customer experiences across channels through modern technology that incorporates AI, automation and product management that drives scale. Speaker 300:16:062nd, optimizing our order processing transportation management systems to deliver with speed and efficiency from time of order to the customer's doorstep 3rd, develop mission first purposeful marketing campaigns that are authentic and improve customer engagement while increasing brand awareness across all touch points. 4th, leveraging data analytics to gain timely customer insights that will accelerate responsiveness to customer demand and create automation for improved daily work streams. 5th, innovate product offerings, increasing high margin private label assortments for greater accessibility. And lastly, curating strategic partnerships to further promote health and wellness during all life stages for dogs, pets and horses. Our company owned and 3rd party operated management information systems consist of a full range of retail, merchandising, human resource and financial systems. Speaker 300:17:04These systems include applications related to digital operations, inventory management, supply chain, planning, sourcing, merchandising, payroll, scheduling and financial reporting. We will prioritize these technology investments in order to upgrade our core systems, create efficiencies and support our digital operations, our pharmacy operations, our fulfillment center effectiveness and our customer relationship management tools with the loyalty program. Through our planned integrated marketing campaign and deepening our focus customer segmentation, we believe we have the ability to acquire new customers in the underpenetrated regions, including the Midwest, Northwest, Southwest. More than 50% of our current revenues comes from the Northeast and the West Coast states as well as Southwestern Florida where we will continue to focus our retention efforts. These initiatives are part of the strategy to achieve greater levels of success while creating significant value for both customers and shareholders. Speaker 300:18:04Christine will provide a detailed summary of our latest results, but in general performance in the 4th quarter reflected a continuation of the trends we've seen throughout much of fiscal 2024 as net sales were up 6.6% on a year over year basis driven by the PetCareRx acquisition. We continue to make progress leveraging the combined pets business with our expanded product offering by focusing on attracting new customers as well as driving recurring revenues from existing customers. As a leader, I have an unwavering commitment to transparency whether speaking to customers, vendors, employees or shareholders. When I joined the CEO 4 weeks ago, I knew the overall technology stack was going to be an area of focus and opportunity for near term improvement. We are dedicating additional technology resources to modernize our tech stack and as mentioned have added Umesh Repad, our very experienced new Chief Digital and Technology Officer to strengthen the leadership team. Speaker 300:19:04The PetCareRx business that we acquired last year brings increased distribution capability and experience, geographic diversity, technology enhancements, additional vendor relationships and a long tenured and experienced staff whose capabilities will only enhance and accelerate our efforts to improve productivity. A key to driving growth and profitability is the successful execution around these initiatives. Our future hinges on the commitment to innovation, delivering seamless experiences and positively contributing to a brighter healthier outlook for pets everywhere. At Pets, everything we do is rooted in consistently delivering high quality value based products and services to millions of pets and their families while enhancing speed and efficiency. I'm eager to build upon our foundation and to foster even more personalized and meaningful relationships at every touch point through advanced technology solutions, generative AI and integrative marketing initiatives. Speaker 300:20:06Equally important, we are also committed to providing exceptional value across pets through our loyalty program and ongoing savings benefits that make high quality products accessible to everyone. This will be an expansion of our existing loyalty program, including plans to add members to our National Employee Benefits Partnership, which is our PEP Plus program. Our Veterinary Advisory Board will be instrumental, as I mentioned earlier, in furthering our mission of enhancing our ecosystem of products and services. We currently offer free live chats with veterinary technicians, access to the VetLIVE on demand veterinary telehealth service through our partner, Vetsters, and offer valuable benefits of lifelong savings to our pet insurance pumpkin partnership. We plan to utilize the exclusive veterinary community, approved incredible publishers to create and maintain our educational platform for dog, cat and source owners. Speaker 300:21:04In summary, after my first 4 weeks in the role, I am even more convinced that our developing strategic business model will promote increased shareholder value. Our foundation is proven and we have the liquidity including a balance sheet with over $55,000,000 in cash and no debt as of March 31, 2024 that enables us to use a thoughtful balanced approach to allocating capital. As mentioned, over the near term, our top priority will be consolidating the businesses, rightsizing our infrastructure and investing in our technology to drive sustainable growth and profitability. We are confident that our strategic will drive growth, will improve profitability outcomes and will increase our key customer satisfaction metrics. I am grateful for a dedicated team of partners internally and externally, each of whom play crucial roles in ensuring that pets becomes the go to resource for dog, pet and horse health and wellness. Speaker 300:21:59With that, let me hand the call to Christine to cover the Q4 results in more detail. Speaker 100:22:05Thank you, Sandra. I will now provide an update on the Q4 fiscal year 2024 results for the quarter ending March 31, 2024. 4th quarter fiscal year 2024 sales was $66,500,000 compared to sales of $62,400,000 in the same period last year, representing growth of 6.6% year over year. The growth was due to incremental sales from the acquisition of PetCareRx, partially offset by a slowdown in call center response times due to the implementation of our new order management system and ordership platforms during the Q4. We welcomed approximately 73,000 new pet parents this quarter, relatively flat to the same period in the prior year. Speaker 100:23:02Consolidated reorder sales were $58,900,000 for the quarter, an increase of 4.6% compared to reorder sales of $56,200,000 in the same period last year. We've continued to grow our recurring revenue, including autoship and save sales and PetCareRx membership sales as a percentage of total sales to 54% in the Q4 of fiscal year 2024 compared to 52% in the Q3 of fiscal 2024 and 44% in the same quarter last year. Increasing our recurring revenue remains a focus for us as it drives greater engagement and strengthens the predictability of our sales base. Prescriptions and premium food are some of the top categories for our customers, and we believe they continue to offer significant potential to help us increase order size, purchase frequency and customer LTV in addition to attracting new customers. Gross profit margin was 27.3% compared to 27.9% in the same quarter last year and 27.4% in the 3rd quarter. Speaker 100:24:26The decrease year over year was due to lower manufacturing rebates, higher promotional activity and a lower prescription medication sales mix, offset by an increase in PacteraRx membership fees. Adjusted EBITDA was $500,000 for the 4th quarter compared to an adjusted EBITDA of 3 point $6,000,000 in the same period last year. The decrease was due to an increase in G and A and advertising expenses, partially offset by an increase in gross profit. Net loss for the 4th quarter was $5,000,000 or $0.25 per diluted share compared to a net loss of $200,000 or $0.01 per diluted share for the same period last year. The change year over year was due to the increase in G and A and advertising expenses of $3,500,000 due to the Pecorix acquisition, an increase in depreciation and amortization of $900,000 dollars as well as an increase in the tax provision of $870,000 and a decrease in interest income of $400,000 partially offset by an increase in gross profit related to the acquisition of $800,000 dollars Turning to the balance sheet. Speaker 100:25:50As of March 31, 2024, we had over $55,000,000 of cash and equivalents and no debt. We continue to look for ways to maximize cash through driving net working capital improvements, negotiating leases with our tenants and reviewing vendor agreements for efficiency. With that, I will now turn the call back to Sandra for concluding remarks. Speaker 300:26:19Our strategic plan provides a robust foundation, guiding our organization with a clear compass and ambitious KPIs. This plan is underpinned by these key pillars. 1st, delivering Pet's combined growth across all categories. 2nd, executing an enterprise wide consolidation of businesses. 3rd, executing digital transformation initiative and lastly, operating with financial discipline across every department and function. Speaker 300:26:49As we embark on a multiyear transformation to achieve top line growth across our distribution channels, we remain steadfast in our commitment to our core purpose. Our focus is on our pet families, ensuring that they have access to the best products for preventive and acute care at all stages of their companion animals' lives. We celebrate the veterinarians who provide exceptional care to their patients nationwide and we welcome the support of our newly formed Veterinary Advisory Board as part of our fiscal year 2025 initiatives. Additionally, we value our strategic partners who help us create a comprehensive ecosystem supporting pets throughout all of their lives. We also prioritize our employees by investing in upskilling and providing ample career development opportunities. Speaker 300:27:38And with that, I am very thankful and honored once again to be able to lead this organization during this pivotal time and look forward to further discussion. Thank you very much. We are now ready for the question and answer session. Operator00:27:55Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Ryan Myers with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:28:29Guys, thanks Speaker 400:28:29for taking my questions today. First one for me, given all the initiatives you guys just laid out, do you feel like you can generate top line growth this year? Speaker 300:28:43Hi, this is Sandra. And absolutely, our initiatives are focused on generating top line growth. We have started to already implement some changes across not only our marketing initiatives, but also as we continue to impact the technology as we were as I was mentioning earlier and all the technology advancements, we know that we have the opportunity to increase sales, not only with the addition of our AutoShip subscriptions with current and recurring customers, but also in terms of new customers through creating these more seamless customer journeys and seamless experiences so that they can actually have better access to the products that they need at the right time. In addition to that, as it relates to as we look at our supply chain and our distribution and the way that we can actually get the product closer to the customer and with speed and efficiency that we also believe is going to absolutely help in top line sales. Speaker 400:29:48That's very helpful. And then next one for me, just switching over to the fundamentals of the business. Have you seen any further stabilization in the core business besides the consolidation you guys talked about? What else do you feel like needs to be done here to drive growth in that business? Speaker 300:30:07In the core fundamental business, we're really looking at our overall vendors, our top vendors, our top performing SKUs with the help of our veterinary advisory board. We're looking at what are what those most important medications in the Rx part of the business are and how we can ensure that we have those products from an inventory management perspective at all given points in time. We're actually seeing the returning customers increase. We're seeing an improvement in conversion because we're actually doing that through not only our customer care and health specialists who are on the phone communicating with those 100,000 plus pet families every month, but also online through chat, through email and through their online purchases. So we are seeing that every piece, every initiative is going to absolutely help us propel these initiatives forward. Speaker 300:31:05And not only top line growth, also profitability and margin improvements because we are also making some slight deductions and changes as it relates to promotions, where as we focus on the top products that are core to a patient's pet family's health and their health care of their pets and their lives. The more of that that we offer, the better we're going to be able to improve our own margins on those products, not be focused on driving it at a value discount price, but really providing true value as it relates to the services and the products and the enhancement of those that we deliver as a company. Operator00:31:52Thank Our next question comes from the line of Erin Wright with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:32:05Great. Thanks. So you gave a lot of great detail there on a lot of the changes you're making across the organization? And in light of that, how should we think about the cost structure going forward and going into next year? And how we should think about investments that you're making and the timings of the timing of that and how lumpy that can be kind of quarter to quarter and just broadly kind of your philosophy on growth versus profitability in terms of your priorities? Speaker 500:32:34Thanks. Speaker 300:32:35Thank you for that question. Well, we are absolutely focused on profitability. And as I mentioned, as it relates to consolidation of these two businesses, we are creating synergies with them and reducing redundancies. We are looking at that across literally every line item That has to do everything from vendors and agencies where we have had 2 separate businesses on 2 separate systems and duplication of costs there. That initially and upfront and right away is going to be able to make some immediate impact as it relates to reduction of operating expenses. Speaker 300:33:15So we're finding better efficiencies. We'll be focusing on the profitability through, 1st and foremost, reducing those duplication across those businesses in order to synergize what we have together. Speaker 500:33:29Okay. And then can you give us some metrics around sort of what the organic growth across the base business actually was in the quarter kind of excluding the PetCareRx or new customer growth or across the base business or any metrics from an organic perspective? Speaker 300:33:48Yes. Christine, I'm going to hand this to you because I know you are coming in with these statistics. Speaker 100:33:56Yes. Thank you. Thanks, Aaron, for the question. So we don't break the metrics out separately, but we did report the new customer number for the quarter and it was relatively flat to last year on a consolidated basis. But we are very focused on key metrics that are going to be focused on new customer acquisition, retention of customers and really as Sandra mentioned sort of selling more to customers as we focus on the lifetime value of those customers and the repeatability of those customers. Speaker 100:34:34So for the quarter, yes, new customer growth, we did relatively flat for the quarter and we don't necessarily split them out between the two businesses. Speaker 500:34:47Okay. All right. Thank you. Operator00:34:53Thank you. We have reached the end of our question and answer session. And with that, this will conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallPetMed Express Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) PetMed Express Earnings HeadlinesPetMed Express, Inc. 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It sells its products through its Internet website; mobile app; customer support center; and direct mail/print, which includes brochures and postcards. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings and welcome to the PetMed Express 4th Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Speaker 100:00:17It is now Operator00:00:17my pleasure to introduce your host, John Mills with ICR. You may begin. Speaker 200:00:23Thank you, operator, and I'd like to welcome everybody here today to the PetMed Express fiscal 4th quarter 2024 earnings conference call. Certain information that will be included during this call may include forward looking statements within the meaning the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, that may involve a number of risks and uncertainties. These statements are based on our beliefs as well as assumptions we have used based upon information currently available to us. Because these statements reflect our current views concerning future events, these statements involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Actual results could differ materially from those projected. Speaker 200:01:09There can be no assurance that any forward looking results will occur or be realized. And nothing contained in this presentation is or should be relied upon as a representation or warranty as to any future matters, including any matter in respect of the operations or business or financial condition of PetMed. PetMed undertakes no obligation to update publicly these forward looking statements based on subsequent events, except as may be required by applicable law, regulation or other competent legal authority. We've identified various risk factors associated with our operations in our most recent annual report and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Now let me turn the call over to our CEO and President, Sandra Campos. Speaker 200:01:57Sandra? Speaker 300:01:59Thanks, John, and thank you to everyone for joining our conference call today. It is a true pleasure to speak with all of you for the first time. Let me just start by saying how incredibly honored I am to leave this company at such a pivotal point. Pets, which includes PetMeds and PetCareRx is very much at the intersection of my personal and professional passion. That along with the ability to transform a business within a growing sector is what ultimately attracted me to join the Board as an independent director just over a year ago. Speaker 300:02:29I personally have 8 rescue horses, 2 rescue dogs and one very talkative senior cat. I intimately understand the profound bond that exists between pets and their families and the importance of working with trusted veterinarians who provide the valuable patient care as well as the loyalty one has for a reputable retail provider that takes care of all of your animals' needs in an efficient, timely and professional manner. Throughout my retail and CPG career, I have consistently prioritized the needs of consumers and strive to establish disruptive, vibrant and enduring brands that fulfill their promises of quality and value to their communities. High scaled startups, led entrepreneurial enterprises, $1,000,000,000 brand portfolios and have managed businesses that are global in scope and I have an extensive background in end to end supply chain as well. In this new role, I have the ability to bring my knowledge and experiences to pets as we refocus our teams on being a customer centric mission based company whose primary goal is to empower pet families so that they can provide the best possible care for their dogs, cats and horses and help them in order to lead long and healthy lives. Speaker 300:03:44The market for pet medications, foods and health products and services is continuing to grow and servicing that market is what we've done really well since 1996. According to the American Pet Products Association, pet spending in the United States continues to increase and has increased by 7% to $147,000,000,000 in 2023. Veterinary care and prescription medications represented about 26% of that total spend or $38,300,000,000 That leads us to Pets, where we have an incredible opportunity ahead for growth in a sector that continues to expand. As an enterprise, we have some very positive key results. We filled almost 500,000 prescriptions and Rx Foods in the past 18 months. Speaker 300:04:31We continue to add new customers each year, 302,000 in fiscal 2024,274,000 new customers in fiscal 2023 or a 10% year over year increase. Our average order value is healthy and had a slight year over year increase to $94 for fiscal 2024 from $93 for fiscal 2023. While I've only been at the helm of this company for 4 weeks, I would like to share my view on the future for pets as well as some short term tactical and strategic objectives for our business. 1st, consolidation of our brands. We believe that our primary brands, namely PetMed and PetCareRx are known as being credible experts among pet owners and are synonymous with pet health and well-being. Speaker 300:05:22The consolidation of our brands into a single United company is driven by our commitment to streamline operations, lower our overall cost structure and increase the value proposition by enhancing efficiencies and providing a more cohesive customer experience. By bringing together brands that have the same mission and product assortment, we can leverage our combined strength, reduce redundancies and offer a unified stronger presence in the market. In the short term, our focus will be on improving fundamental processes, reducing operating expenses, while enhancing some of our core offerings such as our tiered membership model and our employer benefits partnership. We still characterize this as a work in process as we continue enhancing the program with additional partnerships that help families provide preventive care during all life stages of their pets. Secondly, continue focusing on cash flow generation while enhancing key partnerships. Speaker 300:06:20The company entered fiscal 2025 with a healthy liquidity position and will continue to monitor and manage cash flow through the consolidation of our 2 brands. Actions to preserve liquidity and maximize cash flows during fiscal 2025 will include, but will not be limited to the following: deepening our relationship with key suppliers to optimize our supply chain and improve margins managing future inventory through properly forecasting supply with expected demand ensuring that customers can find the products when they need them Reducing expenses to better align operating costs with sales through elimination of duplicative resources including agency and vendor consolidation. And focusing on operational efficiency and reducing order processing time at our fulfillment centers, pharmacy and call centers through tech enablement and automation. 3rd, customer retention, loyalty and frequency of visits. At the heart of our business process of advancing our customized technology that supports our auto ship program. Speaker 300:07:33From new features to seamless integration and facilitating the shopping experience, this is a high priority that drives higher customers' lifetime value and repeat purchases. We have just added a new Chief Digital and Technology Officer to lead these efforts who have tremendous background in this, Umesh Sherpaad. Our marketing strategy is a commitment to reinvigorate our communication initiative and deepen our engagement with consumers. And that we also have just added a Chief Marketing Officer, Carla Dodds, who also has extensive retail and e commerce experience. We are personalizing the customer journey through advanced AI customer segmentation marketing solutions. Speaker 300:08:14For bundling and cross selling opportunities across merchandising categories. And since Carla joined us just a couple of weeks ago, we are driving these initiatives today and going forward. The enrichment of our digital content library with the support of our veterinary advisory board is going to be something that will be connected to our easy checkout across all customer touch points. And lastly, we have some new customer acquisition priorities, which will also be part of our fully integrated marketing strategy as we go forward. Number 4, investment in technology, AI, automation across departments. Speaker 300:08:55We have begun the work of but we've already launched a single solution best in class call center for our pet health specialist with the phone system that goes live in August for a more seamless communication with our customers and our veterinary partners. We are also at work on the following: fulfillment logic to optimize operations across the 2 warehouse locations, along with adding 3PLs yet to be identified for reducing shipping costs and increasing speed to the customer store step. 2nd, enhancement of the pharmacy software for increased digitization and greater efficiency for our team. 3rd, business intelligence tools revamped to be able to enable faster decision making across our various operations that drive growth and profitability. The last MarTech AI tools for end to end efficiency and automation throughout the customer journey. Speaker 300:09:53We are well positioned to thrive as the leader in this growing industry. For over 2 decades, we've served millions of customers trusting us with the care of their beloved pets. Our competitive advantage is proven by our dedicated employees, consumers, veterinarians and vendors confidence that PetMeds and PetCareRx are synonymous with providing the best healthcare products for preventative care and acute or chronic conditions for dogs, cats and horses. We've invested heavily in our pharmacies at each location and we have pharmacists with specialties and veterinary pharmacology and licenses in all 50 states. The pharmacies are also accredited by the NABP and LegitScript and have excelled in all federal and state regulatory requirements that include a 5 point rigorous verification process from the time that we receive an order to the moment that we ship it to the customer. Speaker 300:10:46In creating an ecosystem for holistic pet wellness with a laser focus on the pet family needs, we believe that we have the ability to expand our position as a trusted go to leader. To best serve our customer needs, we have established strong vendor and strategic services partnerships with brand names that consumers recognize and trust for any of their pet health concerns. That includes our prescription and over the counter medication, supplements, supplies, food, both Rx and non Rx, insurance, telehealth, employer benefits, our Veterinary Advisory Board, our educational content that we provide, private label products that provide alternatives at accessible price points for the consumer. We are committed to connecting our customers to rich educational content from our professional and credible resources. Recently launched our Veterinary Advisory Board or the VAB as we are calling them has a goal of ensuring that all of our initiatives result in improved patient care. Speaker 300:11:51This esteemed board consists of 5 expert veterinarians across the country, each with decades of experience in private practice and academia shaping the future of veterinary medicine. Doctor. Lori Teller, DMZ, DAB VP for Canine and Feline, CVJ and Clinical Professor in the Department of Small Animal Clinical Sciences at Texas A&M University's School of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences serves as the liaison between the company and our veterinary advisory board. Doctor. Teller and her 4 colleagues bring a wealth of knowledge and experience, which will be instrumental in achieving our fiscal year 2025 goals and beyond. Speaker 300:12:32The VAB's extensive expertise will be leveraged across the organization from products to marketing and they will play a crucial role in advising the company on regulatory updates. Additionally, the VAB will support the development customer facing educational content about the vital role that veterinarians play in protecting family health. And most importantly, the VAB will be instrumental as we improve our veterinary facing portal through reducing friction, applying historical data and increasing usage to increase internal speed of transactions. Another key area of strength is our in house customer support team, who are pet health specialists. As a premium service to our customers, our in health pet specialists in the call center support more than 100,000 pet parent calls each month. Speaker 300:13:22Pet owners have the ability to contact our agents and pharmacists for assistance with their animals well-being via telephone, chat and email. We're in the process of consolidating our 2 teams and phone systems into 1 in order to ensure efficiency, consistency, scalability and reduce costs. The quality of our senior management team has been a key area of my initial focus for the past 4 weeks and I am thrilled to welcome 3 exceptional leaders who will play pivotal roles in driving our company's future growth and success. Carla Dodd joined us on May 28 as our new Chief Marketing Officer. Carla is a dynamic and inspiring marketer who brings a wealth of experience in consumer behavior, integrated marketing solutions, creating meaningful loyalty and partnership programs and increasing brand equity from enterprise companies such as Walmart, Mastercard and Penske Media Corporation. Speaker 300:14:17Caroline Canigliano joined us on June 10th as Chief Operating Officer, a newly created position for pets underscoring the importance of having a singular focus leader in this role. Her ability to seamlessly integrate analytical insights with creative solutions along with her proven track record in scaling businesses makes her an invaluable asset for our organization. Umesh Sheprad, our new Chief Digital and Technology Officer also joined the company on June 10. Umesh's expertise in driving successful technology implementation and creating seamless customer experiences from the likes of ikea.com, Overstock.com and Bed Bath and Beyond will significantly enhance our operational efficiency and effectiveness. Additionally, we as a Board determined that we needed we've added technology veteran, Justin Menon to the Independent Board of Directors. Speaker 300:15:17Justin brings enterprise level technology infrastructure, healthcare and cybersecurity expertise that will be extremely valuable as we modernize and transition our tech stack. I have no doubt that these key additions will allow us to be positioned to execute our strategy and to accelerate the growth of pets. Our ultimate goal is to position pets as the go to resource for pet health and wellness products, services and experiences through our ecosystem. Ensuring sustained growth and a thriving customer community requires a broad roadmap and a disciplined execution. 1st, we're going to create personalized customer experiences across channels through modern technology that incorporates AI, automation and product management that drives scale. Speaker 300:16:062nd, optimizing our order processing transportation management systems to deliver with speed and efficiency from time of order to the customer's doorstep 3rd, develop mission first purposeful marketing campaigns that are authentic and improve customer engagement while increasing brand awareness across all touch points. 4th, leveraging data analytics to gain timely customer insights that will accelerate responsiveness to customer demand and create automation for improved daily work streams. 5th, innovate product offerings, increasing high margin private label assortments for greater accessibility. And lastly, curating strategic partnerships to further promote health and wellness during all life stages for dogs, pets and horses. Our company owned and 3rd party operated management information systems consist of a full range of retail, merchandising, human resource and financial systems. Speaker 300:17:04These systems include applications related to digital operations, inventory management, supply chain, planning, sourcing, merchandising, payroll, scheduling and financial reporting. We will prioritize these technology investments in order to upgrade our core systems, create efficiencies and support our digital operations, our pharmacy operations, our fulfillment center effectiveness and our customer relationship management tools with the loyalty program. Through our planned integrated marketing campaign and deepening our focus customer segmentation, we believe we have the ability to acquire new customers in the underpenetrated regions, including the Midwest, Northwest, Southwest. More than 50% of our current revenues comes from the Northeast and the West Coast states as well as Southwestern Florida where we will continue to focus our retention efforts. These initiatives are part of the strategy to achieve greater levels of success while creating significant value for both customers and shareholders. Speaker 300:18:04Christine will provide a detailed summary of our latest results, but in general performance in the 4th quarter reflected a continuation of the trends we've seen throughout much of fiscal 2024 as net sales were up 6.6% on a year over year basis driven by the PetCareRx acquisition. We continue to make progress leveraging the combined pets business with our expanded product offering by focusing on attracting new customers as well as driving recurring revenues from existing customers. As a leader, I have an unwavering commitment to transparency whether speaking to customers, vendors, employees or shareholders. When I joined the CEO 4 weeks ago, I knew the overall technology stack was going to be an area of focus and opportunity for near term improvement. We are dedicating additional technology resources to modernize our tech stack and as mentioned have added Umesh Repad, our very experienced new Chief Digital and Technology Officer to strengthen the leadership team. Speaker 300:19:04The PetCareRx business that we acquired last year brings increased distribution capability and experience, geographic diversity, technology enhancements, additional vendor relationships and a long tenured and experienced staff whose capabilities will only enhance and accelerate our efforts to improve productivity. A key to driving growth and profitability is the successful execution around these initiatives. Our future hinges on the commitment to innovation, delivering seamless experiences and positively contributing to a brighter healthier outlook for pets everywhere. At Pets, everything we do is rooted in consistently delivering high quality value based products and services to millions of pets and their families while enhancing speed and efficiency. I'm eager to build upon our foundation and to foster even more personalized and meaningful relationships at every touch point through advanced technology solutions, generative AI and integrative marketing initiatives. Speaker 300:20:06Equally important, we are also committed to providing exceptional value across pets through our loyalty program and ongoing savings benefits that make high quality products accessible to everyone. This will be an expansion of our existing loyalty program, including plans to add members to our National Employee Benefits Partnership, which is our PEP Plus program. Our Veterinary Advisory Board will be instrumental, as I mentioned earlier, in furthering our mission of enhancing our ecosystem of products and services. We currently offer free live chats with veterinary technicians, access to the VetLIVE on demand veterinary telehealth service through our partner, Vetsters, and offer valuable benefits of lifelong savings to our pet insurance pumpkin partnership. We plan to utilize the exclusive veterinary community, approved incredible publishers to create and maintain our educational platform for dog, cat and source owners. Speaker 300:21:04In summary, after my first 4 weeks in the role, I am even more convinced that our developing strategic business model will promote increased shareholder value. Our foundation is proven and we have the liquidity including a balance sheet with over $55,000,000 in cash and no debt as of March 31, 2024 that enables us to use a thoughtful balanced approach to allocating capital. As mentioned, over the near term, our top priority will be consolidating the businesses, rightsizing our infrastructure and investing in our technology to drive sustainable growth and profitability. We are confident that our strategic will drive growth, will improve profitability outcomes and will increase our key customer satisfaction metrics. I am grateful for a dedicated team of partners internally and externally, each of whom play crucial roles in ensuring that pets becomes the go to resource for dog, pet and horse health and wellness. Speaker 300:21:59With that, let me hand the call to Christine to cover the Q4 results in more detail. Speaker 100:22:05Thank you, Sandra. I will now provide an update on the Q4 fiscal year 2024 results for the quarter ending March 31, 2024. 4th quarter fiscal year 2024 sales was $66,500,000 compared to sales of $62,400,000 in the same period last year, representing growth of 6.6% year over year. The growth was due to incremental sales from the acquisition of PetCareRx, partially offset by a slowdown in call center response times due to the implementation of our new order management system and ordership platforms during the Q4. We welcomed approximately 73,000 new pet parents this quarter, relatively flat to the same period in the prior year. Speaker 100:23:02Consolidated reorder sales were $58,900,000 for the quarter, an increase of 4.6% compared to reorder sales of $56,200,000 in the same period last year. We've continued to grow our recurring revenue, including autoship and save sales and PetCareRx membership sales as a percentage of total sales to 54% in the Q4 of fiscal year 2024 compared to 52% in the Q3 of fiscal 2024 and 44% in the same quarter last year. Increasing our recurring revenue remains a focus for us as it drives greater engagement and strengthens the predictability of our sales base. Prescriptions and premium food are some of the top categories for our customers, and we believe they continue to offer significant potential to help us increase order size, purchase frequency and customer LTV in addition to attracting new customers. Gross profit margin was 27.3% compared to 27.9% in the same quarter last year and 27.4% in the 3rd quarter. Speaker 100:24:26The decrease year over year was due to lower manufacturing rebates, higher promotional activity and a lower prescription medication sales mix, offset by an increase in PacteraRx membership fees. Adjusted EBITDA was $500,000 for the 4th quarter compared to an adjusted EBITDA of 3 point $6,000,000 in the same period last year. The decrease was due to an increase in G and A and advertising expenses, partially offset by an increase in gross profit. Net loss for the 4th quarter was $5,000,000 or $0.25 per diluted share compared to a net loss of $200,000 or $0.01 per diluted share for the same period last year. The change year over year was due to the increase in G and A and advertising expenses of $3,500,000 due to the Pecorix acquisition, an increase in depreciation and amortization of $900,000 dollars as well as an increase in the tax provision of $870,000 and a decrease in interest income of $400,000 partially offset by an increase in gross profit related to the acquisition of $800,000 dollars Turning to the balance sheet. Speaker 100:25:50As of March 31, 2024, we had over $55,000,000 of cash and equivalents and no debt. We continue to look for ways to maximize cash through driving net working capital improvements, negotiating leases with our tenants and reviewing vendor agreements for efficiency. With that, I will now turn the call back to Sandra for concluding remarks. Speaker 300:26:19Our strategic plan provides a robust foundation, guiding our organization with a clear compass and ambitious KPIs. This plan is underpinned by these key pillars. 1st, delivering Pet's combined growth across all categories. 2nd, executing an enterprise wide consolidation of businesses. 3rd, executing digital transformation initiative and lastly, operating with financial discipline across every department and function. Speaker 300:26:49As we embark on a multiyear transformation to achieve top line growth across our distribution channels, we remain steadfast in our commitment to our core purpose. Our focus is on our pet families, ensuring that they have access to the best products for preventive and acute care at all stages of their companion animals' lives. We celebrate the veterinarians who provide exceptional care to their patients nationwide and we welcome the support of our newly formed Veterinary Advisory Board as part of our fiscal year 2025 initiatives. Additionally, we value our strategic partners who help us create a comprehensive ecosystem supporting pets throughout all of their lives. We also prioritize our employees by investing in upskilling and providing ample career development opportunities. Speaker 300:27:38And with that, I am very thankful and honored once again to be able to lead this organization during this pivotal time and look forward to further discussion. Thank you very much. We are now ready for the question and answer session. Operator00:27:55Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Ryan Myers with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:28:29Guys, thanks Speaker 400:28:29for taking my questions today. First one for me, given all the initiatives you guys just laid out, do you feel like you can generate top line growth this year? Speaker 300:28:43Hi, this is Sandra. And absolutely, our initiatives are focused on generating top line growth. We have started to already implement some changes across not only our marketing initiatives, but also as we continue to impact the technology as we were as I was mentioning earlier and all the technology advancements, we know that we have the opportunity to increase sales, not only with the addition of our AutoShip subscriptions with current and recurring customers, but also in terms of new customers through creating these more seamless customer journeys and seamless experiences so that they can actually have better access to the products that they need at the right time. In addition to that, as it relates to as we look at our supply chain and our distribution and the way that we can actually get the product closer to the customer and with speed and efficiency that we also believe is going to absolutely help in top line sales. Speaker 400:29:48That's very helpful. And then next one for me, just switching over to the fundamentals of the business. Have you seen any further stabilization in the core business besides the consolidation you guys talked about? What else do you feel like needs to be done here to drive growth in that business? Speaker 300:30:07In the core fundamental business, we're really looking at our overall vendors, our top vendors, our top performing SKUs with the help of our veterinary advisory board. We're looking at what are what those most important medications in the Rx part of the business are and how we can ensure that we have those products from an inventory management perspective at all given points in time. We're actually seeing the returning customers increase. We're seeing an improvement in conversion because we're actually doing that through not only our customer care and health specialists who are on the phone communicating with those 100,000 plus pet families every month, but also online through chat, through email and through their online purchases. So we are seeing that every piece, every initiative is going to absolutely help us propel these initiatives forward. Speaker 300:31:05And not only top line growth, also profitability and margin improvements because we are also making some slight deductions and changes as it relates to promotions, where as we focus on the top products that are core to a patient's pet family's health and their health care of their pets and their lives. The more of that that we offer, the better we're going to be able to improve our own margins on those products, not be focused on driving it at a value discount price, but really providing true value as it relates to the services and the products and the enhancement of those that we deliver as a company. Operator00:31:52Thank Our next question comes from the line of Erin Wright with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:32:05Great. Thanks. So you gave a lot of great detail there on a lot of the changes you're making across the organization? And in light of that, how should we think about the cost structure going forward and going into next year? And how we should think about investments that you're making and the timings of the timing of that and how lumpy that can be kind of quarter to quarter and just broadly kind of your philosophy on growth versus profitability in terms of your priorities? Speaker 500:32:34Thanks. Speaker 300:32:35Thank you for that question. Well, we are absolutely focused on profitability. And as I mentioned, as it relates to consolidation of these two businesses, we are creating synergies with them and reducing redundancies. We are looking at that across literally every line item That has to do everything from vendors and agencies where we have had 2 separate businesses on 2 separate systems and duplication of costs there. That initially and upfront and right away is going to be able to make some immediate impact as it relates to reduction of operating expenses. Speaker 300:33:15So we're finding better efficiencies. We'll be focusing on the profitability through, 1st and foremost, reducing those duplication across those businesses in order to synergize what we have together. Speaker 500:33:29Okay. And then can you give us some metrics around sort of what the organic growth across the base business actually was in the quarter kind of excluding the PetCareRx or new customer growth or across the base business or any metrics from an organic perspective? Speaker 300:33:48Yes. Christine, I'm going to hand this to you because I know you are coming in with these statistics. Speaker 100:33:56Yes. Thank you. Thanks, Aaron, for the question. So we don't break the metrics out separately, but we did report the new customer number for the quarter and it was relatively flat to last year on a consolidated basis. But we are very focused on key metrics that are going to be focused on new customer acquisition, retention of customers and really as Sandra mentioned sort of selling more to customers as we focus on the lifetime value of those customers and the repeatability of those customers. Speaker 100:34:34So for the quarter, yes, new customer growth, we did relatively flat for the quarter and we don't necessarily split them out between the two businesses. Speaker 500:34:47Okay. All right. Thank you. Operator00:34:53Thank you. We have reached the end of our question and answer session. And with that, this will conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by