NASDAQ:HBNC Horizon Bancorp Q2 2024 Earnings Report $14.93 -0.17 (-1.13%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$14.92 0.00 (-0.03%) As of 07:36 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Horizon Bancorp EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.32Consensus EPS $0.31Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPS$0.41Horizon Bancorp Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$97.47 millionExpected Revenue$55.03 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$42.44 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AHorizon Bancorp Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date7/24/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, July 25, 2024Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsHorizon Bancorp's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 23, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 24, 2025 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Horizon Bancorp Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 25, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Horizon Bancorp Inc. Conference Call to discuss Financial Results for the Q2 of 2024. All participants will be in listen only mode. Before turning the call over to management, please remember that today's call may contain statements that are forward looking in nature. These statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed, including those factors noted in the slide presentation. Operator00:00:54Additional information about factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in Horizon's most recent Form 10 ks and its later filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, management may refer to certain non GAAP financial measures that are intended to help investors understand Horizon's business. Reconciliations for these measures are contained in the presentation. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements made during the call. For anyone who does not already have a copy of the press release and supplemental presentation issued by Horizon yesterday, they can be accessed at the company's website, horizonbank.com. Operator00:01:43Representing Horizon today are Executive Vice President and Senior Operations Officer, Kathy de Rueter Executive Vice President, Corporate Secretary and General Counsel, Todd Etzler Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Banking Officer, Lynn Kerber Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Jon Stewart Stewart Executive Vice President and Chief Administration Officer, Mark Seger and Chief Financial Officer and President, Tom Prane. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Thomas Prane. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:02:25Good morning and thank you for participating in today's call. As we begin this morning, I wanted to introduce John Stewart, Rison's new Chief Financial Officer. John is familiar to many on the call from his various leadership roles in the financial services industry over the last 2 decades. He's done a tremendous job on boarding during the quarter and we look forward to the many positive contributions he brings to our leadership team and organization. Thank you, John, and again welcome to Horizon. Speaker 100:02:52Horizon's positive second quarter results displayed on page 4 reflect the organization's commitment to continually enhance our financial performance. The quarter reflected sequential growth in revenue and pre tax pre provision income driven by a 3rd consecutive quarter of expanded net interest income and margin, fee income growth, as well as prudent expense management. Loan growth in the quarter was robust, driven primarily by our relationship based commercial lending teams. This growth was complemented by consistent positive credit trends in non performing loans and charge offs. The team continues find ample opportunities to grow in our local markets while maintaining our positive credit trends through proactive portfolio management and maintaining a diversified lending portfolio. Speaker 100:03:39Horizon's deposit portfolio had a solid quarter with stability in its core consumer and commercial relationships that was balanced with a cost effective approach to public funds balances. The granular and tender deposit base displayed very strong trends in the quarter with resiliency in core balances and overall deposit costs increasing minimally. As our Q1 results displayed, the company has positive momentum on many fronts through a more profitable balance sheet, realizing investments in our fee income businesses, and a well managed expenses. As highlighted in my opening comments, we're very pleased with the success in the quarter. A significant part of the success was loan growth and continued excellent credit quality. Speaker 100:04:22To provide additional insight into this part of our business model, I'll transition the presentation to our Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Banking Officer, Lynn Kerber. Speaker 200:04:32Thank you, Thomas. Beginning on Slide 5, we have an overview of the loan portfolio as of June 30th, with a mix of 60% commercial, 17% residential and 22% consumer, which remains relatively unchanged from our prior quarter. Loan growth was strong in the quarter, with an increase in loan balances of $205,000,000 or 17.8 percent annualized. The growth reflected new production predominantly in commercial loans and mortgage loans, while we deemphasize lower yielding consumer originations consistent with our ongoing balance sheet repositioning. Our improving mix resulted in an average new production coupon of 7.93% for the 2nd quarter. Speaker 200:05:23Commercial loans, including equipment finance, increased $155,000,000 residential mortgage loans increased $16,000,000 and consumer loans increased $22,000,000 Transitioning to some detail on each portfolio, we have commercial loans highlighted on Slide 6. Commercial loans increased $154,800,000 for the 2nd quarter, representing 22.6% on an annualized basis. Loan fundings were very consistent with prior quarters. However, they were influenced by 3 larger loans that closed the last week of the quarter. Additionally, we experienced modest increased utilization on lines of credit, combined with a higher volume of previously closed construction loans funding within the quarter. Speaker 200:06:14The pace of unscheduled payoff slowed within the 2nd quarter, which also helped commercial loan The core commercial pipeline continues to be strong with opportunities for continued growth, with the team remaining diligent on sound credit underwriting and pricing discipline. Activity continues to be well diversified by industry and geography, and our portfolio mix continues to be roughly 73% CRE at 27% C and I. You will note that our CRE non owner occupied ratio at 180% and our CRE 3 year growth rate at 20% are conservative and compared favorably to the UBPR peer group ratio of 2 40% and growth of 55%. Commercial credit quality remains strong with low past dues, low non performing loan levels and net recoveries of $3,000 year to date 2024. With a heightened focus on the elevated interest rate environment, we have included a summary of maturing CRE loans for 2024 and 25 on Slide 7. Speaker 200:07:25Maturing CRE loans with interest rates below 7% represent 4% of the portfolio for the remainder of this year and 6% for 2025. We believe rates and maturities are well managed in our CRE portfolio to limit exposure to rate related credit risk at this time. Turning to Slide 8, consumer loan balances increased loan balances increased $22,000,000 during the quarter, reflective of an 8.4% annualized growth. The mortgage portfolio grew $16,000,000 representing 8.1% annualized growth. The focus remains on high credit quality borrowers with an ability to pay and significant equity in their homes. Speaker 200:08:09Overall, credit quality remains satisfactory consumer and mortgage portfolios with delinquencies and charge offs within targeted ranges. Transitioning to credit quality, our asset quality metrics continue to be strong as outlined on Slide 9. Substandard loans of $51,200,000 represented 1.06% of loans, which is well within the range of recent period end levels. Non performing loans remain low and were relatively unchanged for the quarter at $19,300,000 representing 0.4% of total loans. Net charge offs for the 2nd quarter were $584,000 representing an annualized charge off rate of 5 basis points with charge offs predominantly in indirect consumer loans. Speaker 200:09:02Finally, our allowance for credit losses increased in the quarter to $52,200,000 primarily attributed to growth within the quarter and was offset by small reductions of dedicated specific reserves and economic forecasts. Provision expense of $2,370,000 was a combination of the ACL increase of $1,800,000 represented by loan growth and recognition of the modest quarterly change charge off of $584,000 The allowance represents 1.08 percent of total gross loans, which we believe is appropriate given credit performance current economic forecast. Future reserve amounts and related provision will be driven by loan growth and mix, economic forecast and credit trends. Now, I'd like to turn things back to Thomas, who will provide an overview of our deposit portfolios. Speaker 100:09:56Thank you, Lynn. And as always, great insight and information. As we mentioned earlier, we're pleased to see the positive momentum in our net interest margin. This momentum is partially a result of the strength and resiliency of our tenured and granular deposit base that's displayed on slides 1011. Horizon's core consumer and commercial balances were consistent from the Q1 highlighted by stable non interest bearing deposit balances. Speaker 100:10:21Additionally, the company continues to take a practical approach to public funds focusing on operating relationships while balancing pricing and duration in the portfolio. Our newly added resources to our treasury management team are making an impact gathering new relationships expanding wallet share for their core commercial lending clients. As currently positioned, we believe the deposit portfolio will benefit the organization in a down rate environment with its granular composition and long standing relationships in our local markets. The portfolio is very stable with approximately 50% of the balances and relationship based checking accounts with clients that know and trust Horizon well. Let me hand the presentation over to our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Jon Stewart, who will walk through some additional balance sheet highlights and other key financial metrics. Speaker 300:11:13Great. Thank you, Thomas. As noted on Slide 12, there were no purchases of investment securities during the quarter, which was the primary driver of period end balances declining by about $30,000,000 while the fully tax equivalent portfolio yield was unchanged when compared to the last quarter at 2.39%. Going forward, you can expect similar trends to continue for the foreseeable future as cash flows from the portfolio next four quarters, as well as the expected FTE roll off yield, which is a new disclosure we hope you will find helpful. Turning to Slide 13, the benefits of the asset repositioning strategy were again evident this quarter, driving a favorable shift in the mix of earning assets, which coupled with disciplined loan pricing and well controlled interest bearing funding cost, drove a 14 basis point increase in the FTE net interest margin during the quarter to 2.64%. Speaker 300:12:20This result was better than anticipated, which drove net interest income to the higher end of the guidance range for the quarter. Looking even as funding costs will see a bit more lift relative to Q2, even as funding costs will see a bit more lift relative to Q2 to fund that growth. Beyond Q3 into Q4, the NIM expansion likely moderates some, absent any rate cuts or meaningful changes further out on the curve. As you can see on Slide 14, it was a relatively good quarter for the company on the fee income front, delivering $10,500,000 in revenue near the upper end of the guidance range for the quarter. Seasonal increases in both interchange fees and mortgage gain on sale drove the linked quarter increase. Speaker 300:13:14Looking ahead to the remainder of the year, targeted hiring in treasury management, mortgage and private wealth should continue to deliver positive momentum. We would expect fee income to run rate in the $10,500,000 to $11,000,000 range per quarter for the remainder of the year. As evident on Slide 15, it was a good expense quarter for the company coming in at the low end of the prior guidance. Seasonal declines in occupancy expense and well controlled outside services expense were generally offset by additional hiring and related expense in the quarter, volume driven loan fees and elevated levels of operational loss. Looking ahead, while investments in the business will drive the quarterly expense run rate modestly higher in the second half of the year, we would remain disciplined in our approach and therefore continue to expect annualized expenses to remain less than 2% of average total assets, even with the slowing asset growth we noted earlier. Speaker 300:14:16Turning to capital on Slide 16, we saw some modest compression in risk based ratios as strong loan growth late in the quarter helped drive risk weighted asset growth from Q1. That said, we continue to feel good about the company's position. With slower growth anticipated for the back half of the year relative to the first and continued runoff in investment securities as previously noted, we would expect all regulatory capital ratios to increase from here over the second half of the year. Finally, turning to the outlook on Slide 17. Now that the reinvestment activities from the securities sale in Q4 of 2023 have been completed, we are moving towards a higher level outlook methodology, which provides you with our current view for the remainder of the year. Speaker 300:15:02You can see the key balance sheet assumptions articulated in the first two sections on the slide. In short, loan and asset growth is expected to moderate from the recent pace and deposits should remain relatively stable. Excluding any impact from rate cuts, we would expect modest further NIM expansion in Q3 as the average earning asset mix will benefit from loan growth late in the Q2. As mentioned previously, the pace of Q4 NIM expansion will likely moderate, again excluding any impact from rate cuts. Combined, we would anticipate net interest income to grow in the upper single digit range for the second half of twenty twenty four when compared with the first. Speaker 300:15:49Fee income should continue with some positive momentum through the second half of the year with the quarterly run rate in the $10,500,000 to $11,000,000 range. While quarterly expenses in the second half of the year will increase modestly from $37,500,000 reported in Q2, they are expected to remain less than 2% annualized of average assets. Finally, the effective tax rate for the full year should be in the 9.5% to 10% range. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Thomas. Speaker 100:16:23Thank you, John. As outlined in our presentation, we see continued positive momentum for the horizon for the second half of twenty 4. We are in excellent growth markets in the Midwest that are economically attractive for businesses and individuals. Our loan growth is strong and aligned with our historical low credit risk profile. The commercial pipeline continues to be positive and the benefits of the cash flows from our securities portfolio will allow for positive reinvestment across the balance sheet. Speaker 100:16:53The resiliency of our core deposit base maintains its great value with additional opportunity to help improve our financial performance as rates decline. The company also continues to have significant funding capacity if needed. Verizon has a lean and operating culture that consistently adapts to its markets and its environment to deliver long term shareholder value. We are strategically investing in improving our revenue models, maintaining our excellent credit profile and capturing efficiencies in how we deliver our products and our services. And lastly, we believe Horizon is still a very compelling value, supported by our 30 plus years of commitment to our dividend and recently offering a 4.2% dividend yield. Speaker 100:17:35As always, we thank you in advance for joining our presentation this morning. This concludes our prepared remarks and I'll ask our operator to please open the lines for Operator00:18:12The first question comes from Terry McEvoy with Stephens. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:18:18Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Terry. Maybe just start with the margin outlook. Could you talk about the assumption for interest bearing deposit costs? Speaker 400:18:29It looks like last quarter you had a nice benefit from lower time deposits now averaging below 4%, but it looks like kind of your promo rates are 4% to 5% when I just look at your website. So it'd be helpful if you could kind of run through the underlying assumptions there. Speaker 300:18:46Yes. Hey, Terry. Thanks for the question. It's John. Yes, so we exited the quarter, as I noted in the prepared remarks. Speaker 300:18:53We had some pretty strong loan growth at the end of the quarter. That was corresponded with some pretty strong funding growth on to the other side of the balance sheet. So as we think about the starting point for interest bearing deposit costs, if you will, into the beginning of this quarter, they were $256,000,000 if you kind of run through them in the second quarter. They're in the low 260s as a starting point for this quarter. Speaker 400:19:17Thank you for that. And then I apologize if this is the presentation, but could you talk about any purchases of the jumbo mortgages? Did that occur in the second quarter? And then, looks like there was C and I growth. How did leasing come into play in Q2 as well? Speaker 100:19:36Thanks, Kentirious. As you look at our Q2, John's comments earlier, we mentioned the fact that we're done with the redeployment strategy around the security sales in the Q4. In the Q2, if you look at our transactional portfolios, including our indirect auto, that portfolio was up about $20,000,000 So with the aggregate growth of $200,000,000 about 90% of it was through our organic franchise. I'll pass over to Lynn to talk a little bit about leasing specifically. Speaker 200:20:04Good morning, Terry. How are you? Speaker 400:20:07Great. Thanks, Lynn. Speaker 200:20:09Yes. Regarding leasing, our team is really ramping up very nicely. As you know, we had most of our funding in the Q1 kind of late in the quarter. 2nd quarter was really spread more throughout the quarter and really ramping up and shaping up nicely for Q3. I think I had shared previously, we were targeting $110,000,000 $120,000,000 for the year. Speaker 200:20:38And I would say, at this time, we're on pace to achieve that. Speaker 400:20:44Thanks for that. And I'd just note your positive credit trends stand out this morning based on a few other things I've evaluated, which is taking up my time. Thank you for taking my questions. Operator00:20:57Our next question comes from Nathan Race with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:21:02Yes. Hi, everyone. Good morning. Good morning, Nathan. Thanks for taking the questions. Speaker 500:21:07Just curious as you think about kind of the loan growth drivers to the back half of the year, I think the guidance is kind of low to mid single digits. Just curious in terms of how you guys expect to achieve that as a continued C and I and leasing growth or any other factors that go into play there? Speaker 200:21:25Yes, thanks for the question. Our fundings have been new loan fundings have been very consistent year over year. And when I reviewed 1st and second quarter of this year compared to last year, the new funding or initial funding amount was very consistent. We did see a little bit of timing difference between Q1 and Q2. And I don't know that that's going to always be the same rate as Q2, right? Speaker 200:21:52There are some changes from quarter to quarter. But as we look towards the end of the year, there are some things that we're looking at. The initial fundings, I think, will be pretty consistent. But as noted in my prepared remarks, we are having some construction funding right now on previously approved loans. So I expect that that's going to continue during the building season, in Michigan and Indiana. Speaker 200:22:16We've also had some slowdown, and unscheduled payoffs, I think primarily with the rate environment. So I would say generally our outlook is good. If rates start to be reduced towards the end of the year, that could spark some additional activity. Speaker 500:22:38Okay, great. And then just in terms of funding net loan growth in the back half of the year, I appreciate if you had disclosures on Slide 12 in terms of the quarterly cash flow coming off the securities portfolio. Should that support the large amount of loan growth in the back half of the year? Or do you guys see a need to maybe test some wholesale sources just given kind of the stable deposit outlook over the next couple of quarters? Speaker 100:23:01Thanks, Nathan, again for the question. As you look at our loan growth in the mid single digits overall in the portfolio, as we mentioned earlier, it's primarily going to be driven on the commercial side with the mix within that commercial growth representing what the portfolio already looks like. That's going to be complemented by our continued mix change we talked about at the top of the house, taking lower yielding consumer assets, letting those go to cash and then being able to fund a lot of the growth in commercial. That combined with the securities run out that John outlined upfront, that's going to give us more than enough liquidity to fund any type of loan growth without really having to have significant deposit growth in the quarter and for the remainder of the year. Speaker 500:23:39Okay, great. Very helpful. And if I could just ask one more on the appetite for share repurchases going forward. You had some growth in TCE, but it seems like you guys are still seeing good organic growth opportunities as well. I know the stocks were up over the last several weeks similar to the group, but just any update to us Thomas on perhaps reengage on repurchases going forward? Speaker 100:24:04Yes. Thank you, Adnan. We also recognize that the math could be really appealing right now for potential buyback, stock buyback and or securities repositioning again. We're going to continue to evaluate the capital allocations options throughout the remainder of the year as we are as our earning momentum continues and we continue to grow capital levels. And we're going to remain diligent examining all potential options with our primary focus is going to be on making sure we deliver shareholder value. Speaker 500:24:30Okay, great. I appreciate all the color. Thank you. Speaker 100:24:35Thank you. Operator00:24:37Our next question comes from Damon DeMonte with KBW. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:24:44Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Everybody is doing well and welcome aboard, John. So first question, just kind of regarding the margin outlook. I kind of took from the commentary that you're caveating it with no changes to rates. Speaker 600:25:01But what happens if the Fed does cut rates here in the back half of this year and then a few times as we go through 'twenty five? How would you expect the margin to respond to that? Speaker 300:25:11Yes, Damon, thanks for the question. Yes, so as the outlook articulated, there's 125 basis point cut in the middle of the year. So that doesn't have much of a middle of the Q4, excuse me. So that doesn't have much of an impact on the outlook for this year. As we look at the balance sheet today, on a static balance sheet, a 25 basis point rate cut is marginally accretive to the NIM. Speaker 300:25:34That would be our expectation in the preceding 30 days. So if you just kind of work through the balance sheet, we've got about 25% of our loans that will reprice inside 30 days in the very front end of the curve, not much in securities and the cash position, you can see it there is not a meaningful contributor. On the other side of the balance sheet, there's not a lot of contractual repricing on the liability base outside of the on the liability base outside of the trust preferreds. So how much margin lift we get from 25 basis points really comes from our ability to manage down non maturity interest bearing deposit costs. The team around rate cuts are accretive to the margin in the immediate term. Speaker 300:26:19Absent rate cuts, if you look over the course of the year or the next 4 to 6 quarters, I should say, A lot of the dynamics that you saw in place this quarter will remain in place. As Thomas just mentioned, there's a positive earning asset mix shift that will take place. There's no plan to reinvest securities cash flows. So those will lead the role to cash or fund loans. That's accretive on the earning asset side, absent any rate cuts. Speaker 300:26:44And then while the deposit base or the funding side becomes a little harder to predict, looking out that far, again, I think all things being considered with the growth and the dynamics that we see in the balance sheet today, no rate cuts are probably marginally accretive to the NIM outlook over the foreseeable future. Might not necessarily be in a straight line as there are some timing differences between cash flows and maturities, but generally over the timeframe, I think that is a reasonable expectation. Speaker 600:27:13Got it. That's great color. Thank you. And then just my second question, credit trends have obviously remained very strong. As you kind of think about the provisioning here in the back half of the year, do you feel like kind of the average of the first two quarters is a reasonable quarterly run rate? Speaker 600:27:30Or do you think maybe there's some underlying trends that are starting to percolate a little bit and you think you need to kind of keep a little bit higher level? Speaker 200:27:40Yes. In regards to the ACL, I don't know if you participated in the Q1 call, but we had to rebalancing balance sheet and change in mix, that affected the Q1. I would say generally speaking, both Q1 and Q2, we had the release of some dedicated specific reserves. So I don't know that I would do an average of those necessarily. But as far as factors driving it going forward, I think principally at this point, it's going to be driven by loan growth, as you can see for this quarter. Speaker 200:28:15And our credit metrics have been really solid. And so, we're just going to continue to monitor those, which I think it's going to be primarily driven by growth and economic forecast. Speaker 600:28:28Got it. Okay. Great. That's all that I had. Everything else was asked and answered. Speaker 600:28:32Thank you. Speaker 100:28:34Thank Operator00:28:35you. The next question comes from Brian Martin with Janney Montgomery. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:28:42Good morning, everyone. Speaker 700:28:46Just one question on the margin. I think Damon just asked my question, but the in terms of where the margin ended the month above the quarter, can you tell us where you exited the quarter in the month of June on the margin? Speaker 300:29:00Yes. Hey, Brian. So the Speaker 700:29:02margin in the month of Speaker 300:29:03June was pretty consistent with the quarter overall. But as Lynn noted in her prepared remarks, and you can see in the end of period balance sheet versus the average, most of the growth came right at the end of the quarter. So but for the month of June, the margin was pretty consistent with the full quarter at 2.64%. Speaker 600:29:20Got you. Speaker 700:29:21Okay. Yes. And just in terms of credit, I guess, like I said, everything looks really nice. In terms of anything on the horizon in terms of looking at the C and I portfolio, is there can you talk about just kind of any trends you're seeing within that C and I portfolio still very healthy? Or is there anything to be mindful of as you kind of trend forward here? Operator00:29:43Yes. Well, so as Speaker 200:29:43you can see, our overall metrics are solid. Our commercial past dues have been extremely low. We're in a net recovery position this year. I will tell you that 3rd Q4 of last year, we saw some impact on some of our C and I customers with their revenue run rate. Fortunately, we've got some very well seasoned customers and they've made some changes to their business models. Speaker 200:30:11So at this point, we're seeing some of them start to actually improve from what we saw in the 3rd, Q4 with some of their revenue rates. So I'm not seeing anything overly concerning at Speaker 700:30:27this point. Okay. And then just, I guess, one other thing was no, actually, it was already asked and answered. So I'm all good. Thank you, guys. Speaker 100:30:40Thank you. Operator00:30:43This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:30:52Thank you, Megan. Again, thank you for participating in today's earnings call. The team had a very productive second quarter with positive momentum in our key earning metrics heading into the second half 2024. We appreciate your attendance today and we look forward to our next quarterly update. Operator00:31:10The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Horizon Bancorp Inc. Conference Call to discuss Financial Results for the Q2 of 2024. All participants will be in listen only mode. Before turning the call over to management, please remember that today's call may contain statements that are forward looking in nature. These statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed, including those factors noted in the slide presentation. Operator00:00:54Additional information about factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in Horizon's most recent Form 10 ks and its later filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, management may refer to certain non GAAP financial measures that are intended to help investors understand Horizon's business. Reconciliations for these measures are contained in the presentation. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements made during the call. For anyone who does not already have a copy of the press release and supplemental presentation issued by Horizon yesterday, they can be accessed at the company's website, horizonbank.com. Operator00:01:43Representing Horizon today are Executive Vice President and Senior Operations Officer, Kathy de Rueter Executive Vice President, Corporate Secretary and General Counsel, Todd Etzler Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Banking Officer, Lynn Kerber Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Jon Stewart Stewart Executive Vice President and Chief Administration Officer, Mark Seger and Chief Financial Officer and President, Tom Prane. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Thomas Prane. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:02:25Good morning and thank you for participating in today's call. As we begin this morning, I wanted to introduce John Stewart, Rison's new Chief Financial Officer. John is familiar to many on the call from his various leadership roles in the financial services industry over the last 2 decades. He's done a tremendous job on boarding during the quarter and we look forward to the many positive contributions he brings to our leadership team and organization. Thank you, John, and again welcome to Horizon. Speaker 100:02:52Horizon's positive second quarter results displayed on page 4 reflect the organization's commitment to continually enhance our financial performance. The quarter reflected sequential growth in revenue and pre tax pre provision income driven by a 3rd consecutive quarter of expanded net interest income and margin, fee income growth, as well as prudent expense management. Loan growth in the quarter was robust, driven primarily by our relationship based commercial lending teams. This growth was complemented by consistent positive credit trends in non performing loans and charge offs. The team continues find ample opportunities to grow in our local markets while maintaining our positive credit trends through proactive portfolio management and maintaining a diversified lending portfolio. Speaker 100:03:39Horizon's deposit portfolio had a solid quarter with stability in its core consumer and commercial relationships that was balanced with a cost effective approach to public funds balances. The granular and tender deposit base displayed very strong trends in the quarter with resiliency in core balances and overall deposit costs increasing minimally. As our Q1 results displayed, the company has positive momentum on many fronts through a more profitable balance sheet, realizing investments in our fee income businesses, and a well managed expenses. As highlighted in my opening comments, we're very pleased with the success in the quarter. A significant part of the success was loan growth and continued excellent credit quality. Speaker 100:04:22To provide additional insight into this part of our business model, I'll transition the presentation to our Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Banking Officer, Lynn Kerber. Speaker 200:04:32Thank you, Thomas. Beginning on Slide 5, we have an overview of the loan portfolio as of June 30th, with a mix of 60% commercial, 17% residential and 22% consumer, which remains relatively unchanged from our prior quarter. Loan growth was strong in the quarter, with an increase in loan balances of $205,000,000 or 17.8 percent annualized. The growth reflected new production predominantly in commercial loans and mortgage loans, while we deemphasize lower yielding consumer originations consistent with our ongoing balance sheet repositioning. Our improving mix resulted in an average new production coupon of 7.93% for the 2nd quarter. Speaker 200:05:23Commercial loans, including equipment finance, increased $155,000,000 residential mortgage loans increased $16,000,000 and consumer loans increased $22,000,000 Transitioning to some detail on each portfolio, we have commercial loans highlighted on Slide 6. Commercial loans increased $154,800,000 for the 2nd quarter, representing 22.6% on an annualized basis. Loan fundings were very consistent with prior quarters. However, they were influenced by 3 larger loans that closed the last week of the quarter. Additionally, we experienced modest increased utilization on lines of credit, combined with a higher volume of previously closed construction loans funding within the quarter. Speaker 200:06:14The pace of unscheduled payoff slowed within the 2nd quarter, which also helped commercial loan The core commercial pipeline continues to be strong with opportunities for continued growth, with the team remaining diligent on sound credit underwriting and pricing discipline. Activity continues to be well diversified by industry and geography, and our portfolio mix continues to be roughly 73% CRE at 27% C and I. You will note that our CRE non owner occupied ratio at 180% and our CRE 3 year growth rate at 20% are conservative and compared favorably to the UBPR peer group ratio of 2 40% and growth of 55%. Commercial credit quality remains strong with low past dues, low non performing loan levels and net recoveries of $3,000 year to date 2024. With a heightened focus on the elevated interest rate environment, we have included a summary of maturing CRE loans for 2024 and 25 on Slide 7. Speaker 200:07:25Maturing CRE loans with interest rates below 7% represent 4% of the portfolio for the remainder of this year and 6% for 2025. We believe rates and maturities are well managed in our CRE portfolio to limit exposure to rate related credit risk at this time. Turning to Slide 8, consumer loan balances increased loan balances increased $22,000,000 during the quarter, reflective of an 8.4% annualized growth. The mortgage portfolio grew $16,000,000 representing 8.1% annualized growth. The focus remains on high credit quality borrowers with an ability to pay and significant equity in their homes. Speaker 200:08:09Overall, credit quality remains satisfactory consumer and mortgage portfolios with delinquencies and charge offs within targeted ranges. Transitioning to credit quality, our asset quality metrics continue to be strong as outlined on Slide 9. Substandard loans of $51,200,000 represented 1.06% of loans, which is well within the range of recent period end levels. Non performing loans remain low and were relatively unchanged for the quarter at $19,300,000 representing 0.4% of total loans. Net charge offs for the 2nd quarter were $584,000 representing an annualized charge off rate of 5 basis points with charge offs predominantly in indirect consumer loans. Speaker 200:09:02Finally, our allowance for credit losses increased in the quarter to $52,200,000 primarily attributed to growth within the quarter and was offset by small reductions of dedicated specific reserves and economic forecasts. Provision expense of $2,370,000 was a combination of the ACL increase of $1,800,000 represented by loan growth and recognition of the modest quarterly change charge off of $584,000 The allowance represents 1.08 percent of total gross loans, which we believe is appropriate given credit performance current economic forecast. Future reserve amounts and related provision will be driven by loan growth and mix, economic forecast and credit trends. Now, I'd like to turn things back to Thomas, who will provide an overview of our deposit portfolios. Speaker 100:09:56Thank you, Lynn. And as always, great insight and information. As we mentioned earlier, we're pleased to see the positive momentum in our net interest margin. This momentum is partially a result of the strength and resiliency of our tenured and granular deposit base that's displayed on slides 1011. Horizon's core consumer and commercial balances were consistent from the Q1 highlighted by stable non interest bearing deposit balances. Speaker 100:10:21Additionally, the company continues to take a practical approach to public funds focusing on operating relationships while balancing pricing and duration in the portfolio. Our newly added resources to our treasury management team are making an impact gathering new relationships expanding wallet share for their core commercial lending clients. As currently positioned, we believe the deposit portfolio will benefit the organization in a down rate environment with its granular composition and long standing relationships in our local markets. The portfolio is very stable with approximately 50% of the balances and relationship based checking accounts with clients that know and trust Horizon well. Let me hand the presentation over to our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Jon Stewart, who will walk through some additional balance sheet highlights and other key financial metrics. Speaker 300:11:13Great. Thank you, Thomas. As noted on Slide 12, there were no purchases of investment securities during the quarter, which was the primary driver of period end balances declining by about $30,000,000 while the fully tax equivalent portfolio yield was unchanged when compared to the last quarter at 2.39%. Going forward, you can expect similar trends to continue for the foreseeable future as cash flows from the portfolio next four quarters, as well as the expected FTE roll off yield, which is a new disclosure we hope you will find helpful. Turning to Slide 13, the benefits of the asset repositioning strategy were again evident this quarter, driving a favorable shift in the mix of earning assets, which coupled with disciplined loan pricing and well controlled interest bearing funding cost, drove a 14 basis point increase in the FTE net interest margin during the quarter to 2.64%. Speaker 300:12:20This result was better than anticipated, which drove net interest income to the higher end of the guidance range for the quarter. Looking even as funding costs will see a bit more lift relative to Q2, even as funding costs will see a bit more lift relative to Q2 to fund that growth. Beyond Q3 into Q4, the NIM expansion likely moderates some, absent any rate cuts or meaningful changes further out on the curve. As you can see on Slide 14, it was a relatively good quarter for the company on the fee income front, delivering $10,500,000 in revenue near the upper end of the guidance range for the quarter. Seasonal increases in both interchange fees and mortgage gain on sale drove the linked quarter increase. Speaker 300:13:14Looking ahead to the remainder of the year, targeted hiring in treasury management, mortgage and private wealth should continue to deliver positive momentum. We would expect fee income to run rate in the $10,500,000 to $11,000,000 range per quarter for the remainder of the year. As evident on Slide 15, it was a good expense quarter for the company coming in at the low end of the prior guidance. Seasonal declines in occupancy expense and well controlled outside services expense were generally offset by additional hiring and related expense in the quarter, volume driven loan fees and elevated levels of operational loss. Looking ahead, while investments in the business will drive the quarterly expense run rate modestly higher in the second half of the year, we would remain disciplined in our approach and therefore continue to expect annualized expenses to remain less than 2% of average total assets, even with the slowing asset growth we noted earlier. Speaker 300:14:16Turning to capital on Slide 16, we saw some modest compression in risk based ratios as strong loan growth late in the quarter helped drive risk weighted asset growth from Q1. That said, we continue to feel good about the company's position. With slower growth anticipated for the back half of the year relative to the first and continued runoff in investment securities as previously noted, we would expect all regulatory capital ratios to increase from here over the second half of the year. Finally, turning to the outlook on Slide 17. Now that the reinvestment activities from the securities sale in Q4 of 2023 have been completed, we are moving towards a higher level outlook methodology, which provides you with our current view for the remainder of the year. Speaker 300:15:02You can see the key balance sheet assumptions articulated in the first two sections on the slide. In short, loan and asset growth is expected to moderate from the recent pace and deposits should remain relatively stable. Excluding any impact from rate cuts, we would expect modest further NIM expansion in Q3 as the average earning asset mix will benefit from loan growth late in the Q2. As mentioned previously, the pace of Q4 NIM expansion will likely moderate, again excluding any impact from rate cuts. Combined, we would anticipate net interest income to grow in the upper single digit range for the second half of twenty twenty four when compared with the first. Speaker 300:15:49Fee income should continue with some positive momentum through the second half of the year with the quarterly run rate in the $10,500,000 to $11,000,000 range. While quarterly expenses in the second half of the year will increase modestly from $37,500,000 reported in Q2, they are expected to remain less than 2% annualized of average assets. Finally, the effective tax rate for the full year should be in the 9.5% to 10% range. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Thomas. Speaker 100:16:23Thank you, John. As outlined in our presentation, we see continued positive momentum for the horizon for the second half of twenty 4. We are in excellent growth markets in the Midwest that are economically attractive for businesses and individuals. Our loan growth is strong and aligned with our historical low credit risk profile. The commercial pipeline continues to be positive and the benefits of the cash flows from our securities portfolio will allow for positive reinvestment across the balance sheet. Speaker 100:16:53The resiliency of our core deposit base maintains its great value with additional opportunity to help improve our financial performance as rates decline. The company also continues to have significant funding capacity if needed. Verizon has a lean and operating culture that consistently adapts to its markets and its environment to deliver long term shareholder value. We are strategically investing in improving our revenue models, maintaining our excellent credit profile and capturing efficiencies in how we deliver our products and our services. And lastly, we believe Horizon is still a very compelling value, supported by our 30 plus years of commitment to our dividend and recently offering a 4.2% dividend yield. Speaker 100:17:35As always, we thank you in advance for joining our presentation this morning. This concludes our prepared remarks and I'll ask our operator to please open the lines for Operator00:18:12The first question comes from Terry McEvoy with Stephens. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:18:18Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Terry. Maybe just start with the margin outlook. Could you talk about the assumption for interest bearing deposit costs? Speaker 400:18:29It looks like last quarter you had a nice benefit from lower time deposits now averaging below 4%, but it looks like kind of your promo rates are 4% to 5% when I just look at your website. So it'd be helpful if you could kind of run through the underlying assumptions there. Speaker 300:18:46Yes. Hey, Terry. Thanks for the question. It's John. Yes, so we exited the quarter, as I noted in the prepared remarks. Speaker 300:18:53We had some pretty strong loan growth at the end of the quarter. That was corresponded with some pretty strong funding growth on to the other side of the balance sheet. So as we think about the starting point for interest bearing deposit costs, if you will, into the beginning of this quarter, they were $256,000,000 if you kind of run through them in the second quarter. They're in the low 260s as a starting point for this quarter. Speaker 400:19:17Thank you for that. And then I apologize if this is the presentation, but could you talk about any purchases of the jumbo mortgages? Did that occur in the second quarter? And then, looks like there was C and I growth. How did leasing come into play in Q2 as well? Speaker 100:19:36Thanks, Kentirious. As you look at our Q2, John's comments earlier, we mentioned the fact that we're done with the redeployment strategy around the security sales in the Q4. In the Q2, if you look at our transactional portfolios, including our indirect auto, that portfolio was up about $20,000,000 So with the aggregate growth of $200,000,000 about 90% of it was through our organic franchise. I'll pass over to Lynn to talk a little bit about leasing specifically. Speaker 200:20:04Good morning, Terry. How are you? Speaker 400:20:07Great. Thanks, Lynn. Speaker 200:20:09Yes. Regarding leasing, our team is really ramping up very nicely. As you know, we had most of our funding in the Q1 kind of late in the quarter. 2nd quarter was really spread more throughout the quarter and really ramping up and shaping up nicely for Q3. I think I had shared previously, we were targeting $110,000,000 $120,000,000 for the year. Speaker 200:20:38And I would say, at this time, we're on pace to achieve that. Speaker 400:20:44Thanks for that. And I'd just note your positive credit trends stand out this morning based on a few other things I've evaluated, which is taking up my time. Thank you for taking my questions. Operator00:20:57Our next question comes from Nathan Race with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:21:02Yes. Hi, everyone. Good morning. Good morning, Nathan. Thanks for taking the questions. Speaker 500:21:07Just curious as you think about kind of the loan growth drivers to the back half of the year, I think the guidance is kind of low to mid single digits. Just curious in terms of how you guys expect to achieve that as a continued C and I and leasing growth or any other factors that go into play there? Speaker 200:21:25Yes, thanks for the question. Our fundings have been new loan fundings have been very consistent year over year. And when I reviewed 1st and second quarter of this year compared to last year, the new funding or initial funding amount was very consistent. We did see a little bit of timing difference between Q1 and Q2. And I don't know that that's going to always be the same rate as Q2, right? Speaker 200:21:52There are some changes from quarter to quarter. But as we look towards the end of the year, there are some things that we're looking at. The initial fundings, I think, will be pretty consistent. But as noted in my prepared remarks, we are having some construction funding right now on previously approved loans. So I expect that that's going to continue during the building season, in Michigan and Indiana. Speaker 200:22:16We've also had some slowdown, and unscheduled payoffs, I think primarily with the rate environment. So I would say generally our outlook is good. If rates start to be reduced towards the end of the year, that could spark some additional activity. Speaker 500:22:38Okay, great. And then just in terms of funding net loan growth in the back half of the year, I appreciate if you had disclosures on Slide 12 in terms of the quarterly cash flow coming off the securities portfolio. Should that support the large amount of loan growth in the back half of the year? Or do you guys see a need to maybe test some wholesale sources just given kind of the stable deposit outlook over the next couple of quarters? Speaker 100:23:01Thanks, Nathan, again for the question. As you look at our loan growth in the mid single digits overall in the portfolio, as we mentioned earlier, it's primarily going to be driven on the commercial side with the mix within that commercial growth representing what the portfolio already looks like. That's going to be complemented by our continued mix change we talked about at the top of the house, taking lower yielding consumer assets, letting those go to cash and then being able to fund a lot of the growth in commercial. That combined with the securities run out that John outlined upfront, that's going to give us more than enough liquidity to fund any type of loan growth without really having to have significant deposit growth in the quarter and for the remainder of the year. Speaker 500:23:39Okay, great. Very helpful. And if I could just ask one more on the appetite for share repurchases going forward. You had some growth in TCE, but it seems like you guys are still seeing good organic growth opportunities as well. I know the stocks were up over the last several weeks similar to the group, but just any update to us Thomas on perhaps reengage on repurchases going forward? Speaker 100:24:04Yes. Thank you, Adnan. We also recognize that the math could be really appealing right now for potential buyback, stock buyback and or securities repositioning again. We're going to continue to evaluate the capital allocations options throughout the remainder of the year as we are as our earning momentum continues and we continue to grow capital levels. And we're going to remain diligent examining all potential options with our primary focus is going to be on making sure we deliver shareholder value. Speaker 500:24:30Okay, great. I appreciate all the color. Thank you. Speaker 100:24:35Thank you. Operator00:24:37Our next question comes from Damon DeMonte with KBW. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:24:44Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Everybody is doing well and welcome aboard, John. So first question, just kind of regarding the margin outlook. I kind of took from the commentary that you're caveating it with no changes to rates. Speaker 600:25:01But what happens if the Fed does cut rates here in the back half of this year and then a few times as we go through 'twenty five? How would you expect the margin to respond to that? Speaker 300:25:11Yes, Damon, thanks for the question. Yes, so as the outlook articulated, there's 125 basis point cut in the middle of the year. So that doesn't have much of a middle of the Q4, excuse me. So that doesn't have much of an impact on the outlook for this year. As we look at the balance sheet today, on a static balance sheet, a 25 basis point rate cut is marginally accretive to the NIM. Speaker 300:25:34That would be our expectation in the preceding 30 days. So if you just kind of work through the balance sheet, we've got about 25% of our loans that will reprice inside 30 days in the very front end of the curve, not much in securities and the cash position, you can see it there is not a meaningful contributor. On the other side of the balance sheet, there's not a lot of contractual repricing on the liability base outside of the on the liability base outside of the trust preferreds. So how much margin lift we get from 25 basis points really comes from our ability to manage down non maturity interest bearing deposit costs. The team around rate cuts are accretive to the margin in the immediate term. Speaker 300:26:19Absent rate cuts, if you look over the course of the year or the next 4 to 6 quarters, I should say, A lot of the dynamics that you saw in place this quarter will remain in place. As Thomas just mentioned, there's a positive earning asset mix shift that will take place. There's no plan to reinvest securities cash flows. So those will lead the role to cash or fund loans. That's accretive on the earning asset side, absent any rate cuts. Speaker 300:26:44And then while the deposit base or the funding side becomes a little harder to predict, looking out that far, again, I think all things being considered with the growth and the dynamics that we see in the balance sheet today, no rate cuts are probably marginally accretive to the NIM outlook over the foreseeable future. Might not necessarily be in a straight line as there are some timing differences between cash flows and maturities, but generally over the timeframe, I think that is a reasonable expectation. Speaker 600:27:13Got it. That's great color. Thank you. And then just my second question, credit trends have obviously remained very strong. As you kind of think about the provisioning here in the back half of the year, do you feel like kind of the average of the first two quarters is a reasonable quarterly run rate? Speaker 600:27:30Or do you think maybe there's some underlying trends that are starting to percolate a little bit and you think you need to kind of keep a little bit higher level? Speaker 200:27:40Yes. In regards to the ACL, I don't know if you participated in the Q1 call, but we had to rebalancing balance sheet and change in mix, that affected the Q1. I would say generally speaking, both Q1 and Q2, we had the release of some dedicated specific reserves. So I don't know that I would do an average of those necessarily. But as far as factors driving it going forward, I think principally at this point, it's going to be driven by loan growth, as you can see for this quarter. Speaker 200:28:15And our credit metrics have been really solid. And so, we're just going to continue to monitor those, which I think it's going to be primarily driven by growth and economic forecast. Speaker 600:28:28Got it. Okay. Great. That's all that I had. Everything else was asked and answered. Speaker 600:28:32Thank you. Speaker 100:28:34Thank Operator00:28:35you. The next question comes from Brian Martin with Janney Montgomery. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:28:42Good morning, everyone. Speaker 700:28:46Just one question on the margin. I think Damon just asked my question, but the in terms of where the margin ended the month above the quarter, can you tell us where you exited the quarter in the month of June on the margin? Speaker 300:29:00Yes. Hey, Brian. So the Speaker 700:29:02margin in the month of Speaker 300:29:03June was pretty consistent with the quarter overall. But as Lynn noted in her prepared remarks, and you can see in the end of period balance sheet versus the average, most of the growth came right at the end of the quarter. So but for the month of June, the margin was pretty consistent with the full quarter at 2.64%. Speaker 600:29:20Got you. Speaker 700:29:21Okay. Yes. And just in terms of credit, I guess, like I said, everything looks really nice. In terms of anything on the horizon in terms of looking at the C and I portfolio, is there can you talk about just kind of any trends you're seeing within that C and I portfolio still very healthy? Or is there anything to be mindful of as you kind of trend forward here? Operator00:29:43Yes. Well, so as Speaker 200:29:43you can see, our overall metrics are solid. Our commercial past dues have been extremely low. We're in a net recovery position this year. I will tell you that 3rd Q4 of last year, we saw some impact on some of our C and I customers with their revenue run rate. Fortunately, we've got some very well seasoned customers and they've made some changes to their business models. Speaker 200:30:11So at this point, we're seeing some of them start to actually improve from what we saw in the 3rd, Q4 with some of their revenue rates. So I'm not seeing anything overly concerning at Speaker 700:30:27this point. Okay. And then just, I guess, one other thing was no, actually, it was already asked and answered. So I'm all good. Thank you, guys. Speaker 100:30:40Thank you. Operator00:30:43This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:30:52Thank you, Megan. Again, thank you for participating in today's earnings call. The team had a very productive second quarter with positive momentum in our key earning metrics heading into the second half 2024. We appreciate your attendance today and we look forward to our next quarterly update. Operator00:31:10The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by