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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Republic Services EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.61Consensus EPS $1.53Beat/MissBeat by +$0.08One Year Ago EPSN/ARepublic Services Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$4.05 billionExpected Revenue$4.03 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$16.45 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ARepublic Services Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date7/24/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, July 24, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsRepublic Services' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 23, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Republic Services Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 24, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 15 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to the Republic Services Second Quarter 2024 Investor Conference Call. Republic Services is traded on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol RSG. All participants in today's call will be in a listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Aaron Evans, Vice President of Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:43I would like to welcome everyone to Republic Services' Q2 2024 Conference Call. John Vander Ark, our CEO and Brian DelGaccio, our CFO are on the call today to discuss our performance. I would like to take a moment to remind everyone that some of the information we discuss on today's call contains forward looking statements, which involve risks and uncertainties and may be materially different from actual results. Our SEC filings discuss factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. The material that we discuss today is time sensitive. Speaker 100:01:20If in the future you listen to a rebroadcast or recording of this conference call, you should be sensitive to the date of the original call, which is July 24, 2024. Please note that this call is the property of Republic Services Inc. Any redistribution, retransmission or rebroadcast of this call in any form without the expressed written consent of Republic Services is strictly prohibited. I want to point out that our SEC filings, our earnings press release, which includes GAAP reconciliation tables and a discussion of business activities, along with the recording of this call are available on Republic's website at republicservices.com. I want to remind you that Republic's management team routinely participates in investor conferences. Speaker 100:02:06When events are scheduled, the dates, times and presentations are posted on our website. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to John. Thanks, Aaron. Speaker 200:02:15Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Our strong second quarter results reflect the continued positive momentum in our business and are a direct outcome of executing our strategic priorities. We continue to successfully grow our business while enhancing profitability by providing world class service and solutions to our customers. During the quarter, we achieved revenue growth of 9%, generated adjusted EBITDA growth of 13%, expanded adjusted EBITDA margin by 110 basis points, reported adjusted earnings per share of $1.61 and produced $1,150,000,000 of adjusted free cash flow on a year to date basis. The results we are delivering are made possible by executing our strategy supported by our differentiated capabilities, customer zeal, digital and sustainability. Speaker 200:03:11Regarding customer zeal, our commitment to delivering world class essential services and sustainability offerings continues to drive customer loyalty and organic growth in the business. Our customer retention rate remained high at more than 94% and net promoter scores continue to improve. Customers value our comprehensive service offerings and the quality of our service delivery. Organic revenue growth during the 2nd quarter was driven by strong pricing across the business. Average yield on total revenue was 5.5% and average yield on related revenue was 6.6%. Speaker 200:03:52This level of pricing exceeded our cost inflation and drove 110 basis points of EBITDA margin expansion. Organic volume on total revenue declined 80 basis points or 1% on related revenue. Volume losses were heavily concentrated to the cyclical portions of our business, including construction activity. Turning to our expanding digital capabilities. The team continues to advance the implementation of digital tools that improves the experience for both customers and our employees. Speaker 200:04:24Our RISE digital operations platform is driving improved route optimization and safety performance and providing more predictable service delivery to our customers. MPower, our new fleet and equipment management system was introduced to pilot locations earlier this month. Empower is expected to increase maintenance technician productivity and enhance warranty recovery. We expect to continue deploying the new system to all locations under a phased approach through the end of 2025. We estimate Empower will drive $20,000,000 of annual cost savings once fully implemented. Speaker 200:05:03We continue to benefit from innovative technology on recycling and waste collection routes. Our platform utilizes cameras to identify overfilled containers and contamination in recycling containers. This technology reduces contamination at our recycling centers and is expected to generate approximately $60,000,000 in incremental annual revenue. To date, we have already achieved $45,000,000 Moving on to sustainability. We believe that creating a more sustainable world is both our responsibility and a platform for growth. Speaker 200:05:41Earlier today, we released our latest sustainability report highlighting the progress we are making toward our 2,030 goals and the positive impact we're delivering to our customers and the communities we serve. Our 2,030 goals are supported by investments we are making in Polymer Centers, the Blue Polymers joint venture, renewable natural gas projects and fleet electrification. Development of our Polymer Centers and Blue Polymers joint venture facilities continues to move forward. Major customers have certified the plastic flake produced at our Las Vegas Polymer Center. Production volumes continue to ramp and we expect to achieve our run rate output targets in the Q4 of this year. Speaker 200:06:25Construction is progressing on our Indianapolis Polymer Center with equipment installation underway. The operation will be co located with a Blue Polymers production facility. We expect construction on this facility to be complete by the end of the year with earnings contribution beginning in mid-twenty 25. The renewable natural gas projects we're developing with our partners continue to advance. 1 project came online during the Q2. Speaker 200:06:52Additionally, we completed construction at our RNG project in Fort Wayne, Indiana. This will be the first project to come online in our joint venture with BP. We expect 5 additional projects to be completed in the second half of this year. We continue to bring decarbonization solutions to the market, including our industry leading commitment to fleet electrification. We currently have 16 electric collection vehicles in operation. Speaker 200:07:21We expect to have more than 50 EVs in our collection fleet by the end of the year. We now have 9 facilities with commercial scale EV charging infrastructure and we expect 5 additional new sites to be completed in 2024. Customers are looking for solutions to support their sustainability goals. We recently announced an agreement with the City of Lewisville, Colorado, making it the 1st municipality to adopt a fully electric residential collection service. As part of our approach to sustainability, we continually strive to be the employer of choice in the markets we serve. Speaker 200:07:58Employee turnover continues to improve with 2nd quarter turnover rate improving 70 basis points compared to the prior year. With respect to capital allocation, year to date we have invested $68,000,000 in acquisitions. Our acquisition pipeline remains supportive of continued activity in both Recycling and Waste and Environmental Solutions businesses. We currently have more than $300,000,000 of transactions in advance stages of diligence and are expected to close by the end of the year. Year to date, we returned 500 and $4,000,000 to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Speaker 200:08:36Additionally, we recently announced an increase to the dividend for the 21st consecutive year. Strong results we produced through the first half of the year support a full year earnings outlook that exceeds our original expectations. We now expect revenue in the range of $16,075,000,000 to $16,125,000,000 adjusted EBITDA in the range of $4,900,000,000 to $4,925,000,000 adjusted earnings per share in a range of $6.15 to $6.20 and adjusted free cash flow in a range of $2,150,000,000 to $2,170,000,000 Our updated financial guidance includes the contributions from acquisitions closed through June 30. I will now turn the call over to Brian, who will provide more details on the quarter. Speaker 300:09:28Thanks, John. Core price on total revenue was 6.8%. Core price on related revenue was 8.1%, which included open market pricing of 9.8 percent and restricted pricing of 5.4%. The components of core price on related revenue included small container of 11.8%, large container of 7.4% and residential of 7.8%. Average yield on total revenue was 5.5% and average yield on related revenue was 6.6%. Speaker 300:10:022nd quarter volume on total revenue decreased 80 basis points and volume on related revenue decreased 1%. Our volume results included a decrease in large container of 3.3%, primarily due to continued softness in construction related activity and a decrease in residential of 2.5%, primarily due to municipal contracts lost in 2023 that anniversary in the Q4 of this year. During the quarter, small container volume decreased 60 basis points, while landfill MSW increased 1.1%. Small container volume loss is a direct result of intentionally shedding broker related business obtained through M and A transactions. We continue to adhere to our long standing strategy of prioritizing direct relationships with our customers. Speaker 300:10:53Moving on to recycling. Commodity prices were $173 per ton during the Q2. This compared to $119 per ton in the prior year. Recycling processing and commodity sales increased revenue by 50 basis points during the quarter. Our updated full year guidance assumes commodity prices remain at approximately $170 per ton for the remainder of the year. Speaker 300:11:18Now turning to our Environmental Solutions business. 2nd quarter Environmental Solutions revenue increased $74,000,000 compared to the prior year fueled by price led organic growth and contribution from acquisitions. On a same store basis, Environmental Solutions contributed 40 basis points to total company internal growth during the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin in the Environmental Solutions business expanded 130 basis points to 23.8 percent in the 2nd quarter. Environmental Solutions EBITDA margin was 22.5% in the prior year. Speaker 300:11:54Total company adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 110 basis points to 31.1%. Margin performance during the quarter included margin expansion in the underlying business of 130 basis points and a 20 basis point increase from recycled commodity prices. This was partially offset by a 40 basis point decrease from acquisitions. Year to date adjusted free cash flow was $1,150,000,000 decrease from the prior year is primarily due to the timing of capital expenditures. Year to date net capital expenditures of $767,000,000 represents an increase of $234,000,000 or 44% compared to the prior year. Speaker 300:12:39Capital spending is more ratable in 2024 whereas 2023 was heavily weighted to the second half of the year. Prior year capital expenditures were impacted by vendor related delays in truck and equipment deliveries. Total debt was $13,100,000,000 and total liquidity was $3,500,000,000 Our leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was approximately 2.8 times. With respect to taxes, our combined tax rate and impact from equity investments in renewable energy resulted in an equivalent tax impact of 25.5% during the quarter. We expect a full year equivalent tax impact of approximately 25.5%. Speaker 300:13:20With that operator, I'd like to open the call to questions. Operator00:13:25We'll now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Toni Kaplan of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:14:01Thanks so much. I was hoping to ask about sustainability projects in the wake of the Chevron decision. It sounds like you're still going strong with your projects. Just wondering if you think there'll be any impacts affecting the market, for example, supply and demand for RINs and as a result of the decision? And then maybe separately in light of the U. Speaker 400:14:25S. Election coming up, would that impact timing of any projects, M and A or anything else, not related to sustainability, just anything in general that you'd call out? Thanks. Speaker 200:14:39Sure. Yes. Listen, we feel good about the projects and our approach, specifically on landfill Gas to Energy. As you know, we're in a joint venture model and there is a series of independent decisions around projects. And so to you said that the RINs market changes and that takes some of those projects kind of below our returns threshold, those are projects that we won't do on that front. Speaker 200:15:02But keep in mind also that we had a very conservative set of assumptions on $2 ends that we built out the initial set of assumptions and what we talked to you about financial impact. So we still feel really confident which ties into the second point. There will be puts and takes whether there's an administration change and there'll certainly be a new President, whether that's a party change or not. I think in general, the conventional wisdom is the Republican administration is going to be more business friendly and the Democratic one maybe look less business friendly. I think if you look at the last 3 years, our business has performed really well in the context of a Democratic administration. Speaker 200:15:39So, I think in any environment, we feel confident there'll be some puts or takes on the margin for sure, but we'll our team will navigate that. Speaker 400:15:47Terrific. And then as a follow-up, just wanted to ask about volume. A bit of a late quarter again, I think you called out the large container and then also some of the resi contracts from 2023 on the muni side. Are you still thinking that this year will be flat to modestly positive on volume? And just anything to flesh out the sort of slightly lower top line guide? Speaker 400:16:17Thanks. Speaker 200:16:19Yes. I think from a volume standpoint, we'll be slightly below our original expectations and that's a function of, listen, the construction market is still pretty challenged with high interest rates, commercial construction activity and residential construction activity have been very muted. And you see that in our volume numbers in temp large container. The great news is that pricing is holding up and there I think the industry has behaved very responsibly in that context. And I also am relatively optimistic that that is somewhat of a short term phenomenon. Speaker 200:16:52We need more housing stock in the United States. I think you're starting to see raise of hope here on interest rates cuts, which I think will be the catalyst for that to happen, whether that happens 3 months from now or 6 or 9 months from now. I do think that's again more transitory versus permanent on that front. And then there's also been again, you talked about the residential contracts. We've accelerated some of the broker exits that Speaker 300:17:15we acquired in our M and Speaker 200:17:16A deals. So let's talk about, we acquire somebody we never value the work on brokers because we know it's going matriculate out of the system. We've accelerated that. So that drove a little bit of outsized volume decline in the quarter. And then for the overall revenue guide, part of that is the volume outlook, which I just gave you. Speaker 200:17:33Part of that is the sustainability projects, landfill gas energy. We're going to hit our number. The timing of the starts of those is going to be a little bit later in the year. I think ourselves and the industry have faced a little bit of delays in terms of permitting, getting the equipment in place, etcetera. So that's not a big surprise. Speaker 200:17:49And then our Polymer Center, well, it's team is executing phenomenally in terms of the product we're producing. We got to a little bit of a later start than we expected through all kinds of things ancillary to the system like permitting for the facility and other things. So that caused a little delay in the timing on that front. Again, that's transitory and will be on full run rate as I discussed in my prepared remarks. Speaker 400:18:11Super. Thank you. Operator00:18:15Next question comes from Tyler Brown with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:18:20Hey, good afternoon. Good afternoon. Speaker 500:18:24Hey, Brian, any color on the shape of pricing into the back half? Should we expect it to sequentially decelerate in Q3 and Q4? And just any color on how that might impact margins because it does feel like the margin expansion is expected to slow. My hunch is that's largely in Q4, but any color there would be helpful. Speaker 300:18:44Yes. And Tyler, good observation. We talked about in Q1, we thought that would be our highest level of pricing of this year and then it would sequentially decline in part just because of some of the index based pricing and just the impact that has throughout the year. As you've seen though, we've also seen cost moderate, cost inflation moderate. So our spread we've maintained. Speaker 300:19:05So we have a similar level of margin expansion in Q1 and Q2. We would expect that spread to decrease a little bit as we move into the second half of the year. But again, if you take a look, driving outsized margin expansion and well above our initial expectations. Speaker 500:19:22Right. Okay. That's very helpful. So I believe my math is correct. This was the first quarter that you guys have put up a 32% core solid waste margin, if my math is right. Speaker 500:19:35But if we go back, you guys have always said that this could be a 32% EBITDA margin business, price compounds, recycling normalizes and both have. So since 32% was the new 30%, just any high level thoughts on what the new 32 could be over the next few years? I mean is there any reason to believe that a mid-thirty percent margin in core solid waste couldn't be achievable in time if price cost dynamics cooperate? Speaker 300:20:02Yes. And Tyler, I think our words were that we saw that in the near term, we saw 32% as achievable. Really what we're looking at is the consistent cadence of margin expansion across our business. And we've talked about that in the 30 to 40 basis points of margin expansion in the recycling and waste business and a little bit more in the environmental solutions, call it 75 basis points plus just given where it is and its maturity. And so we continue to see that opportunity as we move forward. Speaker 300:20:30So we're not going to call what the theoretical cap is, but again it's about pricing in excess of cost inflation, it's about realizing the benefits from our initiatives including our digital initiatives and driving cost out of the system and we see that runway for years to come. Speaker 500:20:45Excellent. My last one real quick. So John there have been a number of deals excuse me, and call it hazardous wasteindustrial waste nontraditional waste markets. Some are big, some are small. But can you just talk about your appetite specifically in that market? Speaker 500:21:01Will it be slow and steady or would you entertain something that would be much chunkier? Speaker 200:21:07Listen, we look at everything. We have made a perspective on any type of transaction and if it's going to create value for our shareholders and fits with us strategically, we'll certainly be at the table on that front. So plus we do about 20 deals a year on average over the last decade. But most of those are the small tuck ins which we're great at and we've got a good pipeline looking forward. And then the bigger ones become more opportunistic just in terms of is it a fit for us time wise, does it create value, are we the natural owner of that? Speaker 200:21:39And again, you'll see us be active in that space over time. Speaker 300:21:44Perfect. Thank you all. Operator00:21:49Next question comes from Kevin Chiang with CIBC. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:21:56Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe if I can follow-up on that, just given some of the activity we've seen in hazardous waste environmental service space on the M and A front, are you seeing any changes in the transaction multiples or the type of assets coming to sale that might give you an opportunity to fill in service areas you want to pursue or white space on the map that might come available? Speaker 200:22:22Yes. Look, there's plenty of opportunities, no question. We've on the small tuck ins on the Environmental Solutions side of the business, we've been intentionally a little bit slow on that this year because the team is doing a lot of integration work from an IT standpoint. And again, it's very analogous to recycling and waste. We create value in that space because we've got well run systems, highly integrated and we can take a smaller company and layer that operationally right into our density and just draft right off of our systems, right? Speaker 200:22:53Until we get that on the environmental solutions side, right, you're just adding your complexities. You're not getting that synergy. And so you'll see us again, that pipeline is building. You'll see us be much more active next year in the space. Speaker 600:23:06Okay. And just anything on the transaction multiples you're seeing? Has that changed at all versus, let's say, 18 months to 24 months ago? Speaker 200:23:14I think it's consistent, which is there's variation in deals that may be of little lower quality from our perspective. I think the high quality deals, right, you're going to pay certainly higher multiple for. But then I think we've done been a good example of that with the U. S. Ecology acquisition, right? Speaker 200:23:32If you're buying something quality and you've got a plan against it, you can certainly drive value post acquisition. Speaker 600:23:38Okay. That's helpful. And maybe just on the EV comments you made in your prepared remarks. You talked about the, I guess, the 9 EV infrastructure sites you have, you have 5 new ones or 5 additional ones by the end of 2024 and you have, I guess, a target of 50 EVs. Are those when you think of those 14 sites at year end, I guess, how many electric vehicles could you support based on the, I guess, the exit rate infrastructure platform you will have invested in? Speaker 600:24:09Is it significantly more than 50 or is it kind of 50 is the right number and if you want to grow more than that you'd have to make more investments into your charging infrastructure? Speaker 200:24:17Yes. No, it's 100. So think about putting in the initial infrastructure and getting connected to the grid. And then you think about charging stations, which become modular once that infrastructure is put in. And so the strategy is we're going a 5 year out plan at each of these sites to understand that we'll be layering more vehicles in. Speaker 200:24:38And so you're bearing the upfront cost right now and then it's just an incremental cost to put in the charging station as the fleet grows in that space. Speaker 600:24:46Okay. That's what's happening. Okay, perfect. Thanks for the clarification there. That's all for me. Speaker 600:24:51Congrats on a good quarter. Speaker 200:24:52Thank you. Thanks. Operator00:24:56The next question comes from Noah Kaye with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:25:02Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Start with Environmental Services. Just on the organic performance of the business, pretty big sequential improvement in the trends quarter over quarter. You had a headwind organically in the segment last quarter, and I know you called out some weather events and the like. Speaker 700:25:22But then to go to kind of this sort of mid single digit organic growth in the segment this quarter, can you just maybe help us understand what you saw from the business on an organic basis and how we're to think about organic growth going forward through the balance of the year? Speaker 200:25:37Yes, strong. We're still in the growth mode in that business, right? And so we're recycling and waste is a very mature business and we could kind of give you a really clear and clean outlook, right? There's going to be a little more up and down in this business as we grow and build it out. And part of that is on the customer side, right? Speaker 200:25:55On one hand, we are churning out customers on one end of the business who aren't willing to pay returns and we're to beat our returns and we're going to put upward pressure on industry pricing as we always do. And on the flip side, we're layering and cross sell opportunities that we've talked about. And so those don't all come in kind of ratably month to month. Those come in kind of in different timing and waves. So really pleased with the progress. Speaker 200:26:19I'd encourage you on that business, like if you're measuring it by the quarter, right, you're probably not going to get the best signal quarter to quarter if that's over the next 1 to 2 years certainly, right? Measuring it over the year, I think gives you a much better view of the trajectory and we're really pleased on both the top line and certainly bottom line performance of that business. Speaker 300:26:39And Noah, just based on when we put in our annual price increase, we didn't see the full impact of that until the Q2. And so I think that's also reflective of what you're seeing in EBITDA margin performance of that business at the same time. Speaker 700:26:55Very good points. Do you feel comfortable underwriting organic growth, thanks to the PIs for the balance of the year? I'm sorry, do we expect organic growth in the balance? Are you expecting like embedded in the outlook, are you expecting organic growth in ES for the balance of the year? Speaker 200:27:13Yes. Yes, we are. And as you know that business, the nature of it, because it's so mix sensitive, there isn't a very clear kind of unit versus price that kind of pair apart or peel apart volume versus price like we do in recycling and waste. And it hasn't meant for lack of trying, but there's just too many variables that don't allow us to do that, but underlying organic unit growth will be there. Speaker 700:27:40Very helpful. Just on the margins, really strong performance here. Wondered if we could maybe unpack a little bit that underlying 130 bps as you provided some nuggets in the past that would be helpful. And then I think to put additional color on the response to Tyler's question, It seems like we could be looking at kind of margins up maybe 100 bps or so year over year in 3Q and kind of flattish in 4Q. If there's any kind of nuance you would give in terms of how to shape that, that would be helpful for modeling purposes. Speaker 300:28:18Yes. Let me start with your the last part of your question first. I think the shape, you're on the right path there, maybe a little bit less in Q3 and a little bit more in Q4, but I think the shape you're directionally correct. Looking at the performance in the underlying business, we saw 120 basis points in recycling waste. We saw actually more than that in the Environmental Solutions business because for the 130 basis points for the company taken as a whole, remember we had to overcome 80 basis points to 100 basis points of dilution from acquisition we completed in the Environmental Solutions business in Q4 of 2023. Speaker 300:28:56So when you take a look at the underlying business within EnviroMetal Solutions, it was close to 200 basis points. Speaker 700:29:05Very helpful. Thank you. Operator00:29:10The next question comes from Brian Bergmeier with Citi. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:29:17Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. In the prepared remarks, I think you mentioned a little bit of intentional shedding in the small container business. So maybe just wondering if you could expand on that, give us a sense of the size of the brokerage business you're running there, maybe it's possible to say maybe what inning the volume shedding is in at this point? Speaker 200:29:39Well, I'd say the good news is from an ongoing standpoint, right, we had a bigger broker business a decade ago and we made a very clear choice that we believe customers are people who generate recycling and waste and we want to have direct relationships with them. So we're very intentional. What's happened is over the last 4 or 5 years as we become much more acquisitive, we've seen that portion of the business increase because when we acquire companies, we see that 10% of their book for example might be, serving brokers. And we don't value 1 nickel, Speaker 300:30:14right, when we pay the purchase price Speaker 200:30:15of the deal because we know that business is going to come out of the system. Typically, we do that over the course of 6 to maybe even 12 or 18 months honoring contracts in a very ratable fashion, right? In this case, we accelerated it because we felt like with 1 broker, but in particular, we had a receivables risk. And so we took more accelerated action, but there will always be a small portion of the business that's going to be a drag, right, on our revenue that we're shedding because it's coming in through M and A. Speaker 300:30:46And a point that I'd make there as well is that if you take a look at the volume decline in small container, it was almost exclusively due to these broker related losses. If you take a look in the open market, we're actually seeing positive unit growth in that business. Speaker 800:31:04Got it. Got it. That makes total sense. Just kind of last question for me is just on the guidance increase. Apologies if I missed this. Speaker 800:31:12Is it possible to maybe just bucket maybe what is going better on the net price side or just kind of touch on it anecdotally? Is it prices coming in higher, costs coming in lower? Is it labor? Is it repair? Just any finer points you can kind of put on what's really been better throughout the 1st 6 months? Speaker 800:31:31Thank you. And I'll turn it over. Speaker 300:31:33Yes. I would say overall, we're looking at price in a similar way that we did in the beginning of the year. I would say the spread between price and cost inflation is favorable. So that's one of the reasons why we're seeing the better than expected margin expansion. And then I would say the other big piece is really just favorable commodity prices and the flow through that has to the bottom line. Speaker 300:31:55But an overwhelming majority again is going to be in that price cost spread. Operator00:32:06The next question comes from Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:32:12Hi, good afternoon, everyone. Hi, Jerry. I'm wondering if you Speaker 700:32:16could just Speaker 900:32:16talk about Hi, guys. Hi. I'm wondering if you could just talk about free cash flow conversion. So you folks are now up to the mid-40s in EBITDA to free cash flow conversion and that's while making the growth investments that you spoke about earlier. As we think about what the free cash flow conversion will look like once the growth investments are producing EBITDA and cash flow, is it reasonable to think about free cash conversion ultimately rising to the high 40s? Speaker 900:32:45Or what kind of guideposts would you think about over the next couple of years as you complete those CapEx and get the cash flow coming in? Speaker 300:32:55Yes. What I would say, Jerry, is that again back to we're not looking at a theoretical cap. We're just looking for that consistent improvement in performance. So our expectations is that just because again when you think about some of the things that we can do on the balance sheet as far as improving working capital being more efficient with the CapEx, start with the 30 to 50 basis points of EBITDA margin expansion we expect, growing free cash flow conversion a little bit more. Now that said, we've got to overcome things like the expiration of bonus depreciation and some other things that we've had to sit there and overcome that are a little bit outside of our control. Speaker 300:33:33So you got to overcome that. From the base business though, you can think of that, call it, 50 to 75 basis points of improvement. And then you got to net out the impact of bonus depreciation, which is different by year. Speaker 900:33:47Got it. Thanks, Brent. And then on the U. S. ECall ERP rollout, it was an area of opportunity for you folks. Speaker 900:33:56Can you just update us on the timing and at which point will we get the sort of route level intelligence that you folks are used to for your overall business that could drive some further margin opportunities? Speaker 300:34:09Yes. We'd see being on a common platform, right, on that business, on the Environmental Solutions business in early 2025, then we can then iterate the system itself in order to be able to get smarter with respect to the information that we have. So we can be more strategic with respect to pricing, get better as far as productivity and just become more profitable over time. But right now, we still have a number of systems that we're trying just first to consolidate, then we can continue to enhance and improve the system that we're operating on. Speaker 900:34:44Super. Thank you. Operator00:34:48The next question comes from Sabahat Khan with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:34:54Great. Thanks and good afternoon. Prior to you, you provided a bit of color on sort of the M and A landscape. I guess within this guidance, are you still sort of on pace for this $500,000,000 for the full year? And maybe if you can just talk about the availability of transaction at the right multiples, obviously some big transactions out there, but trying to see what you're facing out there on the smaller tuck in acquisition types and just your pace for the rest of the year? Speaker 200:35:18Yes, the pipeline looks good. Keep in mind, we don't operate the business for the quarter, we operate it forever. So we did $800,000,000 of acquisitions in Q4 last year. So there's some natural lumpiness, especially the M and A pipeline, so a little quieter for the Q1. This year, listen, we could end up at $500,000,000 we could end up between $4,000,000 to $5,000,000 or we could end up north of $5,000,000 if other stuff kicks in here. Speaker 200:35:42I think we'll be north of $400,000,000 just based on what we have in front of us. And then do we get closer to $5,000,000 or above that? We'll see kind of what happens. Sometimes deals hit you in there in an accelerated fashion. Most of the time at this point, we're kind of looking into Q1 and Q2 for close for those transactions. Speaker 200:36:01So anything bigger would certainly be at a little bit of longer timeframe in terms of a close of next year, wouldn't close this year or anything more substantial. Speaker 1000:36:11Okay, great. And then maybe if you could just share a little bit of color on some of the cost line items as you think about the back end of this year and heading into 2025. How are some of the costs that you're seeing on the ground level comparing to some of the headline inflation numbers maybe across labor and some of the other bigger line items? Thank you. Speaker 200:36:27Yes. We certainly saw good sequential improvement from Q1 to Q2 across maintenance, transportation, labor that the cake is already baked on labor for the year, but comp year over year is certainly improving on that. So as Brian mentioned, that's certainly what's fueling along with price, our margin expansion. And we seek continued modulation of that in the second half of the year. So feel really good about the team's execution on cost control. Speaker 600:36:55Great. Thanks very much. Operator00:37:00Next question comes from David Manthey with Baird. Please go ahead. Speaker 1100:37:06Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. I was hoping you'd give us an update on the $100,000,000 digital opportunity that you previously outlined and the Speaker 300:37:23dollars dollars Yes. So I think David, I think you're talking about our RISE digital platform. So we said there was $100,000,000 of opportunity. They're cumulative and we've realized about $65,000,000 to date. And we would expect to continue to sit there and realize those benefits in future periods, which is embedded in that 30 to 50 basis points of margin expansion that we're calling for on a regular cadence. Speaker 300:37:49That would certainly be part of that over the next couple of years. Speaker 1100:37:54But the new asset management system that's not in the $100,000,000 it's separate. Speaker 300:38:00Sure. That's an sorry, I think for Mattel that's an additional $20,000,000 Now it's going to be deployed in a phased approach. So we actually just hit our 1st pilot locations. We're going to be deploying that through the end of 2025. So we really don't expect to get that full run rate benefit until 20 26. Speaker 1100:38:18Got it. Okay. And then, if I heard you right on the margin improvement in Environmental Solutions, Are there areas of the legacy U. S. Ecology business that you've leaned into or maybe deemphasized over the past 2 years that have helped improve the mix of that business? Speaker 1100:38:37Or is the pricing and efficiency that you're getting just by using the legacy systems and seeing some improvement Speaker 200:38:45there? No, it's all of the above. It's certainly pricing for the value we're delivering. It is challenging than the mix, right? We make more money in certain especially in the field services side of the business, you make more money in certain areas and less than others. Speaker 200:39:00And then even within some of those categories within field service challenging each customer account, right? What isn't really earning their cost of capital and therefore those are things we're pricing or replacing over time. And the team has done a great job of that. I'd say as we get our IT systems in place, which Phil talked about, that gives an opportunity to get even more refined to drive even more value from a pricing standpoint. Speaker 500:39:25Got it. Thank you. Operator00:39:29The next question comes from Stephanie Moore with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 1200:39:35Hi, good afternoon. Thank you. I wanted to take maybe a high level view here on margin expansion opportunity over the next, I think this year you've given any color, but as I think about 2025 and maybe early 2026. I think if you put together everything that you've outlined, whether it's continued price cost spread on solid waste, nice ES expansion, some of your RNG or Polymers that are coming online here at the end of the year. That kind of makes it seem like we could see another outsized year of margin expansion, all things considered, for the foreseeable future beyond 2024. Speaker 1200:40:15Is there anything I'm missing there? Or how would you frame the margin opportunity here beyond 2024? Speaker 200:40:22I think, as Dale highlighted earlier, think about recycling waste 30 to 50 basis points of margin expansion a year. We talked about environmental solutions getting to 25%. Now again, we're reaching there, getting there probably a little quicker than we thought. But again, there'll be some ups and downs in any given quarter, but over the sequence, certainly have line of sight to 25% margin for the year in that category. And then that's not the ending point, right? Speaker 200:40:49We'll continue to move. I think in the long term, we would aspire to have EBITDA margins across the 2 different parts of our business that converge over time because we think there's that much opportunity and value that's delivered in the environmental solutions space. And again, that's a long term Speaker 300:41:04target on that, but I've given you kind Speaker 200:41:05of a marker for kind of what kind of ratable improvement. And we're reticent to kind of choose an individual year because again we don't that's not how we run the business. Speaker 300:41:13We run Speaker 200:41:13it forever. Speaker 1200:41:18Great. That's helpful. And then maybe as you think about the pricing environment as the year progresses and more so next year, just kind of your mix across other various index based pricing, kind of your thoughts about potentially above historical average pricing even as inflation comes down? Thanks. Speaker 300:41:37Yes. So again, we've talked about our initiative in order to move to those favorable indices, water, sewer, trash, garbage trash and those tend to run higher than CPI. So if you're going back and comparing to 5 or 6 years ago, yes, we would expect the restricted portion of our book to perform better than it had historically. But we've made really good progress and movement against that. So again, we're close to 60% of that book that was historically linked to CPI now on a favorable index or a fixed rate increase. Speaker 300:42:10So that's already reflected in the numbers that you saw in or that you're seeing in 2024. But certainly, yes, we would expect to be better than where we were historically. Speaker 1200:42:22Thanks so much. Operator00:42:26The next question comes from Brian Butler with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 1300:42:32Hey, thanks for taking my questions. Let's start with just on the small container side. When you think about the service intervals, maybe some color on how that's trending and what you kind of have built into the back half of 'twenty four? And maybe if you were to exclude the brokerage piece, how positive was the small container volume side? Speaker 300:42:57Yes. So service increases continue to exceed decreases. And as I mentioned for net new business within our open market small container is positive. So if you just take the open market, it would have been modestly positive. I would sit there and say in the quarter, which was completely offset by what we saw from the broker related business. Speaker 1300:43:23Okay. And then my second question, when you think about the midpoint guidance kind of going up on EBITDA kind of $60,000,000 $65,000,000 and you break that out, you talked about price cost being the biggest chunk of that. Can you give some color just on how big maybe the recycling is on a dollar amount for that kind of increase? Speaker 300:43:44Yes. So it's call it 25 to 30 with the balance all being in the underlying business. Speaker 900:43:52All right. And then if Speaker 1300:43:52I could slip one last one in there. Is your sensitivity to RIN prices really changed at all? I mean RINs have been kind of elevated for a while now, but maybe just if you have any color on kind of where that sensitivity kind of stands? Speaker 300:44:06Our sensitivity hasn't changed that much just because we haven't added that much to the portfolio. It will certainly that sensitivity will increase over time as more projects come online. But right now, if you think about just rough math, a $0.10 change in RIN prices is approximately $1,000,000 of operating income annual for us. Speaker 1300:44:27Great. Thank you very much. Operator00:44:32The next question comes from Tobey Sommer with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 1400:44:38Thanks. On the acquisition front over time, is 500,000,000 dollars a good number for annual spend? Or does that change as we go out in the future because the company clearly is growing and perhaps that needs to increase to maintain the same impact? Speaker 200:44:59Yes. We don't really have a target on the acquisition number. And so we kind of give you a rough guide because it's helpful I think for your modeling purposes. But as we think about opportunities, we want to buy companies that again first fit our strategic filter where we think we're the natural owner there and we can create value for our customers. And then the financial filter, which is are we going to exceed our cost of capital and create economic profit for our shareholders. Speaker 200:45:24Those are the two things we look at. And so we're not opportunity we're not capital constrained in that respect. And so the extent we find those opportunities, we're going to go do that. So we've spent as much as $3,000,000,000 in a given year and this year is going to be a little more muted obviously, partly again for the internal constraint of we Speaker 300:45:44want to make sure that Speaker 200:45:44we can digest and execute what we buy over time. So we'll give you an update as we go get into 2025 what we think the outlook is, but it is going Speaker 300:45:53to be more of a Speaker 200:45:54year to year look than some longer term outlook of what we're going to spend. Speaker 1400:45:59Thanks. On the employee attrition front, I know it's down from the peak of several years ago and that helps labor expense and margin expansion. But if I look at it from a different angle and say how low has it gotten before during economic slowdowns and downturns, how far away are we from that at this juncture? Speaker 200:46:23Well, I'd say if you think about we're at right Speaker 300:46:26kind of our benchmark level if you think about any normal run of period. Now if you take a very short look like April Speaker 200:46:34May of 2020 after COVID hit, right, it dropped near 0 because everyone was just trying to hold on and figure out what's happening in the world. But if Speaker 300:46:41you think about any longer run across Speaker 200:46:44a set of quarters, we're certainly at our best performance and we're not stopping. We think there's further opportunity for improvement. Obviously, the rate of improvement will slow. 0 is never the right answer in this category, but we think we can get better. Operator00:47:07At this time, there appears to be no further questions. Mr. Vander Ark, I'll turn the call back over to you for closing remarks. Speaker 200:47:14Thank you, Nick. I would like to thank the entire Republic Services team for their focus on exceeding customer expectations and commitment to driving value for all of our stakeholders. Have a wonderful rest of the summer and be safe. Operator00:47:30Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Republic Services delivered 9% revenue growth in Q2 2024, with adjusted EBITDA up 13% and a 110-basis-point expansion in margin, reporting adjusted EPS of $1.61 and YTD adjusted free cash flow of $1.15 billion. Organic pricing drove 5.5% average yield on total revenue (6.6% on related revenue) exceeding cost inflation, while total volume declined 0.8% largely due to construction activity and intentional small-container broker exits. The RISE digital operations platform and new MPower fleet management system are expected to drive improved route optimization and up to $20 million in annual cost savings, while recycling-route camera technology has generated $45 million toward a $60 million annual revenue target. Progress toward 2030 sustainability goals includes ramping up Polymer Centers (Las Vegas flake certification; Indianapolis on track for Q4 completion), advancing renewable natural gas projects (six RNG facilities by year-end), and growing the EV collection fleet to over 50 vehicles with 14 charging sites. Capital allocation remains strong with $68 million in acquisitions YTD (over $300 million in pipeline), $504 million returned to shareholders, a 21st consecutive dividend increase, and raised full-year guidance to $16.075–$16.125 billion in revenue and $6.15–$6.20 in adjusted EPS. AI Generated. 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There are 15 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to the Republic Services Second Quarter 2024 Investor Conference Call. Republic Services is traded on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol RSG. All participants in today's call will be in a listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Aaron Evans, Vice President of Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:43I would like to welcome everyone to Republic Services' Q2 2024 Conference Call. John Vander Ark, our CEO and Brian DelGaccio, our CFO are on the call today to discuss our performance. I would like to take a moment to remind everyone that some of the information we discuss on today's call contains forward looking statements, which involve risks and uncertainties and may be materially different from actual results. Our SEC filings discuss factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. The material that we discuss today is time sensitive. Speaker 100:01:20If in the future you listen to a rebroadcast or recording of this conference call, you should be sensitive to the date of the original call, which is July 24, 2024. Please note that this call is the property of Republic Services Inc. Any redistribution, retransmission or rebroadcast of this call in any form without the expressed written consent of Republic Services is strictly prohibited. I want to point out that our SEC filings, our earnings press release, which includes GAAP reconciliation tables and a discussion of business activities, along with the recording of this call are available on Republic's website at republicservices.com. I want to remind you that Republic's management team routinely participates in investor conferences. Speaker 100:02:06When events are scheduled, the dates, times and presentations are posted on our website. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to John. Thanks, Aaron. Speaker 200:02:15Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Our strong second quarter results reflect the continued positive momentum in our business and are a direct outcome of executing our strategic priorities. We continue to successfully grow our business while enhancing profitability by providing world class service and solutions to our customers. During the quarter, we achieved revenue growth of 9%, generated adjusted EBITDA growth of 13%, expanded adjusted EBITDA margin by 110 basis points, reported adjusted earnings per share of $1.61 and produced $1,150,000,000 of adjusted free cash flow on a year to date basis. The results we are delivering are made possible by executing our strategy supported by our differentiated capabilities, customer zeal, digital and sustainability. Speaker 200:03:11Regarding customer zeal, our commitment to delivering world class essential services and sustainability offerings continues to drive customer loyalty and organic growth in the business. Our customer retention rate remained high at more than 94% and net promoter scores continue to improve. Customers value our comprehensive service offerings and the quality of our service delivery. Organic revenue growth during the 2nd quarter was driven by strong pricing across the business. Average yield on total revenue was 5.5% and average yield on related revenue was 6.6%. Speaker 200:03:52This level of pricing exceeded our cost inflation and drove 110 basis points of EBITDA margin expansion. Organic volume on total revenue declined 80 basis points or 1% on related revenue. Volume losses were heavily concentrated to the cyclical portions of our business, including construction activity. Turning to our expanding digital capabilities. The team continues to advance the implementation of digital tools that improves the experience for both customers and our employees. Speaker 200:04:24Our RISE digital operations platform is driving improved route optimization and safety performance and providing more predictable service delivery to our customers. MPower, our new fleet and equipment management system was introduced to pilot locations earlier this month. Empower is expected to increase maintenance technician productivity and enhance warranty recovery. We expect to continue deploying the new system to all locations under a phased approach through the end of 2025. We estimate Empower will drive $20,000,000 of annual cost savings once fully implemented. Speaker 200:05:03We continue to benefit from innovative technology on recycling and waste collection routes. Our platform utilizes cameras to identify overfilled containers and contamination in recycling containers. This technology reduces contamination at our recycling centers and is expected to generate approximately $60,000,000 in incremental annual revenue. To date, we have already achieved $45,000,000 Moving on to sustainability. We believe that creating a more sustainable world is both our responsibility and a platform for growth. Speaker 200:05:41Earlier today, we released our latest sustainability report highlighting the progress we are making toward our 2,030 goals and the positive impact we're delivering to our customers and the communities we serve. Our 2,030 goals are supported by investments we are making in Polymer Centers, the Blue Polymers joint venture, renewable natural gas projects and fleet electrification. Development of our Polymer Centers and Blue Polymers joint venture facilities continues to move forward. Major customers have certified the plastic flake produced at our Las Vegas Polymer Center. Production volumes continue to ramp and we expect to achieve our run rate output targets in the Q4 of this year. Speaker 200:06:25Construction is progressing on our Indianapolis Polymer Center with equipment installation underway. The operation will be co located with a Blue Polymers production facility. We expect construction on this facility to be complete by the end of the year with earnings contribution beginning in mid-twenty 25. The renewable natural gas projects we're developing with our partners continue to advance. 1 project came online during the Q2. Speaker 200:06:52Additionally, we completed construction at our RNG project in Fort Wayne, Indiana. This will be the first project to come online in our joint venture with BP. We expect 5 additional projects to be completed in the second half of this year. We continue to bring decarbonization solutions to the market, including our industry leading commitment to fleet electrification. We currently have 16 electric collection vehicles in operation. Speaker 200:07:21We expect to have more than 50 EVs in our collection fleet by the end of the year. We now have 9 facilities with commercial scale EV charging infrastructure and we expect 5 additional new sites to be completed in 2024. Customers are looking for solutions to support their sustainability goals. We recently announced an agreement with the City of Lewisville, Colorado, making it the 1st municipality to adopt a fully electric residential collection service. As part of our approach to sustainability, we continually strive to be the employer of choice in the markets we serve. Speaker 200:07:58Employee turnover continues to improve with 2nd quarter turnover rate improving 70 basis points compared to the prior year. With respect to capital allocation, year to date we have invested $68,000,000 in acquisitions. Our acquisition pipeline remains supportive of continued activity in both Recycling and Waste and Environmental Solutions businesses. We currently have more than $300,000,000 of transactions in advance stages of diligence and are expected to close by the end of the year. Year to date, we returned 500 and $4,000,000 to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Speaker 200:08:36Additionally, we recently announced an increase to the dividend for the 21st consecutive year. Strong results we produced through the first half of the year support a full year earnings outlook that exceeds our original expectations. We now expect revenue in the range of $16,075,000,000 to $16,125,000,000 adjusted EBITDA in the range of $4,900,000,000 to $4,925,000,000 adjusted earnings per share in a range of $6.15 to $6.20 and adjusted free cash flow in a range of $2,150,000,000 to $2,170,000,000 Our updated financial guidance includes the contributions from acquisitions closed through June 30. I will now turn the call over to Brian, who will provide more details on the quarter. Speaker 300:09:28Thanks, John. Core price on total revenue was 6.8%. Core price on related revenue was 8.1%, which included open market pricing of 9.8 percent and restricted pricing of 5.4%. The components of core price on related revenue included small container of 11.8%, large container of 7.4% and residential of 7.8%. Average yield on total revenue was 5.5% and average yield on related revenue was 6.6%. Speaker 300:10:022nd quarter volume on total revenue decreased 80 basis points and volume on related revenue decreased 1%. Our volume results included a decrease in large container of 3.3%, primarily due to continued softness in construction related activity and a decrease in residential of 2.5%, primarily due to municipal contracts lost in 2023 that anniversary in the Q4 of this year. During the quarter, small container volume decreased 60 basis points, while landfill MSW increased 1.1%. Small container volume loss is a direct result of intentionally shedding broker related business obtained through M and A transactions. We continue to adhere to our long standing strategy of prioritizing direct relationships with our customers. Speaker 300:10:53Moving on to recycling. Commodity prices were $173 per ton during the Q2. This compared to $119 per ton in the prior year. Recycling processing and commodity sales increased revenue by 50 basis points during the quarter. Our updated full year guidance assumes commodity prices remain at approximately $170 per ton for the remainder of the year. Speaker 300:11:18Now turning to our Environmental Solutions business. 2nd quarter Environmental Solutions revenue increased $74,000,000 compared to the prior year fueled by price led organic growth and contribution from acquisitions. On a same store basis, Environmental Solutions contributed 40 basis points to total company internal growth during the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin in the Environmental Solutions business expanded 130 basis points to 23.8 percent in the 2nd quarter. Environmental Solutions EBITDA margin was 22.5% in the prior year. Speaker 300:11:54Total company adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 110 basis points to 31.1%. Margin performance during the quarter included margin expansion in the underlying business of 130 basis points and a 20 basis point increase from recycled commodity prices. This was partially offset by a 40 basis point decrease from acquisitions. Year to date adjusted free cash flow was $1,150,000,000 decrease from the prior year is primarily due to the timing of capital expenditures. Year to date net capital expenditures of $767,000,000 represents an increase of $234,000,000 or 44% compared to the prior year. Speaker 300:12:39Capital spending is more ratable in 2024 whereas 2023 was heavily weighted to the second half of the year. Prior year capital expenditures were impacted by vendor related delays in truck and equipment deliveries. Total debt was $13,100,000,000 and total liquidity was $3,500,000,000 Our leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was approximately 2.8 times. With respect to taxes, our combined tax rate and impact from equity investments in renewable energy resulted in an equivalent tax impact of 25.5% during the quarter. We expect a full year equivalent tax impact of approximately 25.5%. Speaker 300:13:20With that operator, I'd like to open the call to questions. Operator00:13:25We'll now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Toni Kaplan of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:14:01Thanks so much. I was hoping to ask about sustainability projects in the wake of the Chevron decision. It sounds like you're still going strong with your projects. Just wondering if you think there'll be any impacts affecting the market, for example, supply and demand for RINs and as a result of the decision? And then maybe separately in light of the U. Speaker 400:14:25S. Election coming up, would that impact timing of any projects, M and A or anything else, not related to sustainability, just anything in general that you'd call out? Thanks. Speaker 200:14:39Sure. Yes. Listen, we feel good about the projects and our approach, specifically on landfill Gas to Energy. As you know, we're in a joint venture model and there is a series of independent decisions around projects. And so to you said that the RINs market changes and that takes some of those projects kind of below our returns threshold, those are projects that we won't do on that front. Speaker 200:15:02But keep in mind also that we had a very conservative set of assumptions on $2 ends that we built out the initial set of assumptions and what we talked to you about financial impact. So we still feel really confident which ties into the second point. There will be puts and takes whether there's an administration change and there'll certainly be a new President, whether that's a party change or not. I think in general, the conventional wisdom is the Republican administration is going to be more business friendly and the Democratic one maybe look less business friendly. I think if you look at the last 3 years, our business has performed really well in the context of a Democratic administration. Speaker 200:15:39So, I think in any environment, we feel confident there'll be some puts or takes on the margin for sure, but we'll our team will navigate that. Speaker 400:15:47Terrific. And then as a follow-up, just wanted to ask about volume. A bit of a late quarter again, I think you called out the large container and then also some of the resi contracts from 2023 on the muni side. Are you still thinking that this year will be flat to modestly positive on volume? And just anything to flesh out the sort of slightly lower top line guide? Speaker 400:16:17Thanks. Speaker 200:16:19Yes. I think from a volume standpoint, we'll be slightly below our original expectations and that's a function of, listen, the construction market is still pretty challenged with high interest rates, commercial construction activity and residential construction activity have been very muted. And you see that in our volume numbers in temp large container. The great news is that pricing is holding up and there I think the industry has behaved very responsibly in that context. And I also am relatively optimistic that that is somewhat of a short term phenomenon. Speaker 200:16:52We need more housing stock in the United States. I think you're starting to see raise of hope here on interest rates cuts, which I think will be the catalyst for that to happen, whether that happens 3 months from now or 6 or 9 months from now. I do think that's again more transitory versus permanent on that front. And then there's also been again, you talked about the residential contracts. We've accelerated some of the broker exits that Speaker 300:17:15we acquired in our M and Speaker 200:17:16A deals. So let's talk about, we acquire somebody we never value the work on brokers because we know it's going matriculate out of the system. We've accelerated that. So that drove a little bit of outsized volume decline in the quarter. And then for the overall revenue guide, part of that is the volume outlook, which I just gave you. Speaker 200:17:33Part of that is the sustainability projects, landfill gas energy. We're going to hit our number. The timing of the starts of those is going to be a little bit later in the year. I think ourselves and the industry have faced a little bit of delays in terms of permitting, getting the equipment in place, etcetera. So that's not a big surprise. Speaker 200:17:49And then our Polymer Center, well, it's team is executing phenomenally in terms of the product we're producing. We got to a little bit of a later start than we expected through all kinds of things ancillary to the system like permitting for the facility and other things. So that caused a little delay in the timing on that front. Again, that's transitory and will be on full run rate as I discussed in my prepared remarks. Speaker 400:18:11Super. Thank you. Operator00:18:15Next question comes from Tyler Brown with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:18:20Hey, good afternoon. Good afternoon. Speaker 500:18:24Hey, Brian, any color on the shape of pricing into the back half? Should we expect it to sequentially decelerate in Q3 and Q4? And just any color on how that might impact margins because it does feel like the margin expansion is expected to slow. My hunch is that's largely in Q4, but any color there would be helpful. Speaker 300:18:44Yes. And Tyler, good observation. We talked about in Q1, we thought that would be our highest level of pricing of this year and then it would sequentially decline in part just because of some of the index based pricing and just the impact that has throughout the year. As you've seen though, we've also seen cost moderate, cost inflation moderate. So our spread we've maintained. Speaker 300:19:05So we have a similar level of margin expansion in Q1 and Q2. We would expect that spread to decrease a little bit as we move into the second half of the year. But again, if you take a look, driving outsized margin expansion and well above our initial expectations. Speaker 500:19:22Right. Okay. That's very helpful. So I believe my math is correct. This was the first quarter that you guys have put up a 32% core solid waste margin, if my math is right. Speaker 500:19:35But if we go back, you guys have always said that this could be a 32% EBITDA margin business, price compounds, recycling normalizes and both have. So since 32% was the new 30%, just any high level thoughts on what the new 32 could be over the next few years? I mean is there any reason to believe that a mid-thirty percent margin in core solid waste couldn't be achievable in time if price cost dynamics cooperate? Speaker 300:20:02Yes. And Tyler, I think our words were that we saw that in the near term, we saw 32% as achievable. Really what we're looking at is the consistent cadence of margin expansion across our business. And we've talked about that in the 30 to 40 basis points of margin expansion in the recycling and waste business and a little bit more in the environmental solutions, call it 75 basis points plus just given where it is and its maturity. And so we continue to see that opportunity as we move forward. Speaker 300:20:30So we're not going to call what the theoretical cap is, but again it's about pricing in excess of cost inflation, it's about realizing the benefits from our initiatives including our digital initiatives and driving cost out of the system and we see that runway for years to come. Speaker 500:20:45Excellent. My last one real quick. So John there have been a number of deals excuse me, and call it hazardous wasteindustrial waste nontraditional waste markets. Some are big, some are small. But can you just talk about your appetite specifically in that market? Speaker 500:21:01Will it be slow and steady or would you entertain something that would be much chunkier? Speaker 200:21:07Listen, we look at everything. We have made a perspective on any type of transaction and if it's going to create value for our shareholders and fits with us strategically, we'll certainly be at the table on that front. So plus we do about 20 deals a year on average over the last decade. But most of those are the small tuck ins which we're great at and we've got a good pipeline looking forward. And then the bigger ones become more opportunistic just in terms of is it a fit for us time wise, does it create value, are we the natural owner of that? Speaker 200:21:39And again, you'll see us be active in that space over time. Speaker 300:21:44Perfect. Thank you all. Operator00:21:49Next question comes from Kevin Chiang with CIBC. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:21:56Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe if I can follow-up on that, just given some of the activity we've seen in hazardous waste environmental service space on the M and A front, are you seeing any changes in the transaction multiples or the type of assets coming to sale that might give you an opportunity to fill in service areas you want to pursue or white space on the map that might come available? Speaker 200:22:22Yes. Look, there's plenty of opportunities, no question. We've on the small tuck ins on the Environmental Solutions side of the business, we've been intentionally a little bit slow on that this year because the team is doing a lot of integration work from an IT standpoint. And again, it's very analogous to recycling and waste. We create value in that space because we've got well run systems, highly integrated and we can take a smaller company and layer that operationally right into our density and just draft right off of our systems, right? Speaker 200:22:53Until we get that on the environmental solutions side, right, you're just adding your complexities. You're not getting that synergy. And so you'll see us again, that pipeline is building. You'll see us be much more active next year in the space. Speaker 600:23:06Okay. And just anything on the transaction multiples you're seeing? Has that changed at all versus, let's say, 18 months to 24 months ago? Speaker 200:23:14I think it's consistent, which is there's variation in deals that may be of little lower quality from our perspective. I think the high quality deals, right, you're going to pay certainly higher multiple for. But then I think we've done been a good example of that with the U. S. Ecology acquisition, right? Speaker 200:23:32If you're buying something quality and you've got a plan against it, you can certainly drive value post acquisition. Speaker 600:23:38Okay. That's helpful. And maybe just on the EV comments you made in your prepared remarks. You talked about the, I guess, the 9 EV infrastructure sites you have, you have 5 new ones or 5 additional ones by the end of 2024 and you have, I guess, a target of 50 EVs. Are those when you think of those 14 sites at year end, I guess, how many electric vehicles could you support based on the, I guess, the exit rate infrastructure platform you will have invested in? Speaker 600:24:09Is it significantly more than 50 or is it kind of 50 is the right number and if you want to grow more than that you'd have to make more investments into your charging infrastructure? Speaker 200:24:17Yes. No, it's 100. So think about putting in the initial infrastructure and getting connected to the grid. And then you think about charging stations, which become modular once that infrastructure is put in. And so the strategy is we're going a 5 year out plan at each of these sites to understand that we'll be layering more vehicles in. Speaker 200:24:38And so you're bearing the upfront cost right now and then it's just an incremental cost to put in the charging station as the fleet grows in that space. Speaker 600:24:46Okay. That's what's happening. Okay, perfect. Thanks for the clarification there. That's all for me. Speaker 600:24:51Congrats on a good quarter. Speaker 200:24:52Thank you. Thanks. Operator00:24:56The next question comes from Noah Kaye with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:25:02Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Start with Environmental Services. Just on the organic performance of the business, pretty big sequential improvement in the trends quarter over quarter. You had a headwind organically in the segment last quarter, and I know you called out some weather events and the like. Speaker 700:25:22But then to go to kind of this sort of mid single digit organic growth in the segment this quarter, can you just maybe help us understand what you saw from the business on an organic basis and how we're to think about organic growth going forward through the balance of the year? Speaker 200:25:37Yes, strong. We're still in the growth mode in that business, right? And so we're recycling and waste is a very mature business and we could kind of give you a really clear and clean outlook, right? There's going to be a little more up and down in this business as we grow and build it out. And part of that is on the customer side, right? Speaker 200:25:55On one hand, we are churning out customers on one end of the business who aren't willing to pay returns and we're to beat our returns and we're going to put upward pressure on industry pricing as we always do. And on the flip side, we're layering and cross sell opportunities that we've talked about. And so those don't all come in kind of ratably month to month. Those come in kind of in different timing and waves. So really pleased with the progress. Speaker 200:26:19I'd encourage you on that business, like if you're measuring it by the quarter, right, you're probably not going to get the best signal quarter to quarter if that's over the next 1 to 2 years certainly, right? Measuring it over the year, I think gives you a much better view of the trajectory and we're really pleased on both the top line and certainly bottom line performance of that business. Speaker 300:26:39And Noah, just based on when we put in our annual price increase, we didn't see the full impact of that until the Q2. And so I think that's also reflective of what you're seeing in EBITDA margin performance of that business at the same time. Speaker 700:26:55Very good points. Do you feel comfortable underwriting organic growth, thanks to the PIs for the balance of the year? I'm sorry, do we expect organic growth in the balance? Are you expecting like embedded in the outlook, are you expecting organic growth in ES for the balance of the year? Speaker 200:27:13Yes. Yes, we are. And as you know that business, the nature of it, because it's so mix sensitive, there isn't a very clear kind of unit versus price that kind of pair apart or peel apart volume versus price like we do in recycling and waste. And it hasn't meant for lack of trying, but there's just too many variables that don't allow us to do that, but underlying organic unit growth will be there. Speaker 700:27:40Very helpful. Just on the margins, really strong performance here. Wondered if we could maybe unpack a little bit that underlying 130 bps as you provided some nuggets in the past that would be helpful. And then I think to put additional color on the response to Tyler's question, It seems like we could be looking at kind of margins up maybe 100 bps or so year over year in 3Q and kind of flattish in 4Q. If there's any kind of nuance you would give in terms of how to shape that, that would be helpful for modeling purposes. Speaker 300:28:18Yes. Let me start with your the last part of your question first. I think the shape, you're on the right path there, maybe a little bit less in Q3 and a little bit more in Q4, but I think the shape you're directionally correct. Looking at the performance in the underlying business, we saw 120 basis points in recycling waste. We saw actually more than that in the Environmental Solutions business because for the 130 basis points for the company taken as a whole, remember we had to overcome 80 basis points to 100 basis points of dilution from acquisition we completed in the Environmental Solutions business in Q4 of 2023. Speaker 300:28:56So when you take a look at the underlying business within EnviroMetal Solutions, it was close to 200 basis points. Speaker 700:29:05Very helpful. Thank you. Operator00:29:10The next question comes from Brian Bergmeier with Citi. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:29:17Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. In the prepared remarks, I think you mentioned a little bit of intentional shedding in the small container business. So maybe just wondering if you could expand on that, give us a sense of the size of the brokerage business you're running there, maybe it's possible to say maybe what inning the volume shedding is in at this point? Speaker 200:29:39Well, I'd say the good news is from an ongoing standpoint, right, we had a bigger broker business a decade ago and we made a very clear choice that we believe customers are people who generate recycling and waste and we want to have direct relationships with them. So we're very intentional. What's happened is over the last 4 or 5 years as we become much more acquisitive, we've seen that portion of the business increase because when we acquire companies, we see that 10% of their book for example might be, serving brokers. And we don't value 1 nickel, Speaker 300:30:14right, when we pay the purchase price Speaker 200:30:15of the deal because we know that business is going to come out of the system. Typically, we do that over the course of 6 to maybe even 12 or 18 months honoring contracts in a very ratable fashion, right? In this case, we accelerated it because we felt like with 1 broker, but in particular, we had a receivables risk. And so we took more accelerated action, but there will always be a small portion of the business that's going to be a drag, right, on our revenue that we're shedding because it's coming in through M and A. Speaker 300:30:46And a point that I'd make there as well is that if you take a look at the volume decline in small container, it was almost exclusively due to these broker related losses. If you take a look in the open market, we're actually seeing positive unit growth in that business. Speaker 800:31:04Got it. Got it. That makes total sense. Just kind of last question for me is just on the guidance increase. Apologies if I missed this. Speaker 800:31:12Is it possible to maybe just bucket maybe what is going better on the net price side or just kind of touch on it anecdotally? Is it prices coming in higher, costs coming in lower? Is it labor? Is it repair? Just any finer points you can kind of put on what's really been better throughout the 1st 6 months? Speaker 800:31:31Thank you. And I'll turn it over. Speaker 300:31:33Yes. I would say overall, we're looking at price in a similar way that we did in the beginning of the year. I would say the spread between price and cost inflation is favorable. So that's one of the reasons why we're seeing the better than expected margin expansion. And then I would say the other big piece is really just favorable commodity prices and the flow through that has to the bottom line. Speaker 300:31:55But an overwhelming majority again is going to be in that price cost spread. Operator00:32:06The next question comes from Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:32:12Hi, good afternoon, everyone. Hi, Jerry. I'm wondering if you Speaker 700:32:16could just Speaker 900:32:16talk about Hi, guys. Hi. I'm wondering if you could just talk about free cash flow conversion. So you folks are now up to the mid-40s in EBITDA to free cash flow conversion and that's while making the growth investments that you spoke about earlier. As we think about what the free cash flow conversion will look like once the growth investments are producing EBITDA and cash flow, is it reasonable to think about free cash conversion ultimately rising to the high 40s? Speaker 900:32:45Or what kind of guideposts would you think about over the next couple of years as you complete those CapEx and get the cash flow coming in? Speaker 300:32:55Yes. What I would say, Jerry, is that again back to we're not looking at a theoretical cap. We're just looking for that consistent improvement in performance. So our expectations is that just because again when you think about some of the things that we can do on the balance sheet as far as improving working capital being more efficient with the CapEx, start with the 30 to 50 basis points of EBITDA margin expansion we expect, growing free cash flow conversion a little bit more. Now that said, we've got to overcome things like the expiration of bonus depreciation and some other things that we've had to sit there and overcome that are a little bit outside of our control. Speaker 300:33:33So you got to overcome that. From the base business though, you can think of that, call it, 50 to 75 basis points of improvement. And then you got to net out the impact of bonus depreciation, which is different by year. Speaker 900:33:47Got it. Thanks, Brent. And then on the U. S. ECall ERP rollout, it was an area of opportunity for you folks. Speaker 900:33:56Can you just update us on the timing and at which point will we get the sort of route level intelligence that you folks are used to for your overall business that could drive some further margin opportunities? Speaker 300:34:09Yes. We'd see being on a common platform, right, on that business, on the Environmental Solutions business in early 2025, then we can then iterate the system itself in order to be able to get smarter with respect to the information that we have. So we can be more strategic with respect to pricing, get better as far as productivity and just become more profitable over time. But right now, we still have a number of systems that we're trying just first to consolidate, then we can continue to enhance and improve the system that we're operating on. Speaker 900:34:44Super. Thank you. Operator00:34:48The next question comes from Sabahat Khan with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:34:54Great. Thanks and good afternoon. Prior to you, you provided a bit of color on sort of the M and A landscape. I guess within this guidance, are you still sort of on pace for this $500,000,000 for the full year? And maybe if you can just talk about the availability of transaction at the right multiples, obviously some big transactions out there, but trying to see what you're facing out there on the smaller tuck in acquisition types and just your pace for the rest of the year? Speaker 200:35:18Yes, the pipeline looks good. Keep in mind, we don't operate the business for the quarter, we operate it forever. So we did $800,000,000 of acquisitions in Q4 last year. So there's some natural lumpiness, especially the M and A pipeline, so a little quieter for the Q1. This year, listen, we could end up at $500,000,000 we could end up between $4,000,000 to $5,000,000 or we could end up north of $5,000,000 if other stuff kicks in here. Speaker 200:35:42I think we'll be north of $400,000,000 just based on what we have in front of us. And then do we get closer to $5,000,000 or above that? We'll see kind of what happens. Sometimes deals hit you in there in an accelerated fashion. Most of the time at this point, we're kind of looking into Q1 and Q2 for close for those transactions. Speaker 200:36:01So anything bigger would certainly be at a little bit of longer timeframe in terms of a close of next year, wouldn't close this year or anything more substantial. Speaker 1000:36:11Okay, great. And then maybe if you could just share a little bit of color on some of the cost line items as you think about the back end of this year and heading into 2025. How are some of the costs that you're seeing on the ground level comparing to some of the headline inflation numbers maybe across labor and some of the other bigger line items? Thank you. Speaker 200:36:27Yes. We certainly saw good sequential improvement from Q1 to Q2 across maintenance, transportation, labor that the cake is already baked on labor for the year, but comp year over year is certainly improving on that. So as Brian mentioned, that's certainly what's fueling along with price, our margin expansion. And we seek continued modulation of that in the second half of the year. So feel really good about the team's execution on cost control. Speaker 600:36:55Great. Thanks very much. Operator00:37:00Next question comes from David Manthey with Baird. Please go ahead. Speaker 1100:37:06Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. I was hoping you'd give us an update on the $100,000,000 digital opportunity that you previously outlined and the Speaker 300:37:23dollars dollars Yes. So I think David, I think you're talking about our RISE digital platform. So we said there was $100,000,000 of opportunity. They're cumulative and we've realized about $65,000,000 to date. And we would expect to continue to sit there and realize those benefits in future periods, which is embedded in that 30 to 50 basis points of margin expansion that we're calling for on a regular cadence. Speaker 300:37:49That would certainly be part of that over the next couple of years. Speaker 1100:37:54But the new asset management system that's not in the $100,000,000 it's separate. Speaker 300:38:00Sure. That's an sorry, I think for Mattel that's an additional $20,000,000 Now it's going to be deployed in a phased approach. So we actually just hit our 1st pilot locations. We're going to be deploying that through the end of 2025. So we really don't expect to get that full run rate benefit until 20 26. Speaker 1100:38:18Got it. Okay. And then, if I heard you right on the margin improvement in Environmental Solutions, Are there areas of the legacy U. S. Ecology business that you've leaned into or maybe deemphasized over the past 2 years that have helped improve the mix of that business? Speaker 1100:38:37Or is the pricing and efficiency that you're getting just by using the legacy systems and seeing some improvement Speaker 200:38:45there? No, it's all of the above. It's certainly pricing for the value we're delivering. It is challenging than the mix, right? We make more money in certain especially in the field services side of the business, you make more money in certain areas and less than others. Speaker 200:39:00And then even within some of those categories within field service challenging each customer account, right? What isn't really earning their cost of capital and therefore those are things we're pricing or replacing over time. And the team has done a great job of that. I'd say as we get our IT systems in place, which Phil talked about, that gives an opportunity to get even more refined to drive even more value from a pricing standpoint. Speaker 500:39:25Got it. Thank you. Operator00:39:29The next question comes from Stephanie Moore with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 1200:39:35Hi, good afternoon. Thank you. I wanted to take maybe a high level view here on margin expansion opportunity over the next, I think this year you've given any color, but as I think about 2025 and maybe early 2026. I think if you put together everything that you've outlined, whether it's continued price cost spread on solid waste, nice ES expansion, some of your RNG or Polymers that are coming online here at the end of the year. That kind of makes it seem like we could see another outsized year of margin expansion, all things considered, for the foreseeable future beyond 2024. Speaker 1200:40:15Is there anything I'm missing there? Or how would you frame the margin opportunity here beyond 2024? Speaker 200:40:22I think, as Dale highlighted earlier, think about recycling waste 30 to 50 basis points of margin expansion a year. We talked about environmental solutions getting to 25%. Now again, we're reaching there, getting there probably a little quicker than we thought. But again, there'll be some ups and downs in any given quarter, but over the sequence, certainly have line of sight to 25% margin for the year in that category. And then that's not the ending point, right? Speaker 200:40:49We'll continue to move. I think in the long term, we would aspire to have EBITDA margins across the 2 different parts of our business that converge over time because we think there's that much opportunity and value that's delivered in the environmental solutions space. And again, that's a long term Speaker 300:41:04target on that, but I've given you kind Speaker 200:41:05of a marker for kind of what kind of ratable improvement. And we're reticent to kind of choose an individual year because again we don't that's not how we run the business. Speaker 300:41:13We run Speaker 200:41:13it forever. Speaker 1200:41:18Great. That's helpful. And then maybe as you think about the pricing environment as the year progresses and more so next year, just kind of your mix across other various index based pricing, kind of your thoughts about potentially above historical average pricing even as inflation comes down? Thanks. Speaker 300:41:37Yes. So again, we've talked about our initiative in order to move to those favorable indices, water, sewer, trash, garbage trash and those tend to run higher than CPI. So if you're going back and comparing to 5 or 6 years ago, yes, we would expect the restricted portion of our book to perform better than it had historically. But we've made really good progress and movement against that. So again, we're close to 60% of that book that was historically linked to CPI now on a favorable index or a fixed rate increase. Speaker 300:42:10So that's already reflected in the numbers that you saw in or that you're seeing in 2024. But certainly, yes, we would expect to be better than where we were historically. Speaker 1200:42:22Thanks so much. Operator00:42:26The next question comes from Brian Butler with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 1300:42:32Hey, thanks for taking my questions. Let's start with just on the small container side. When you think about the service intervals, maybe some color on how that's trending and what you kind of have built into the back half of 'twenty four? And maybe if you were to exclude the brokerage piece, how positive was the small container volume side? Speaker 300:42:57Yes. So service increases continue to exceed decreases. And as I mentioned for net new business within our open market small container is positive. So if you just take the open market, it would have been modestly positive. I would sit there and say in the quarter, which was completely offset by what we saw from the broker related business. Speaker 1300:43:23Okay. And then my second question, when you think about the midpoint guidance kind of going up on EBITDA kind of $60,000,000 $65,000,000 and you break that out, you talked about price cost being the biggest chunk of that. Can you give some color just on how big maybe the recycling is on a dollar amount for that kind of increase? Speaker 300:43:44Yes. So it's call it 25 to 30 with the balance all being in the underlying business. Speaker 900:43:52All right. And then if Speaker 1300:43:52I could slip one last one in there. Is your sensitivity to RIN prices really changed at all? I mean RINs have been kind of elevated for a while now, but maybe just if you have any color on kind of where that sensitivity kind of stands? Speaker 300:44:06Our sensitivity hasn't changed that much just because we haven't added that much to the portfolio. It will certainly that sensitivity will increase over time as more projects come online. But right now, if you think about just rough math, a $0.10 change in RIN prices is approximately $1,000,000 of operating income annual for us. Speaker 1300:44:27Great. Thank you very much. Operator00:44:32The next question comes from Tobey Sommer with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 1400:44:38Thanks. On the acquisition front over time, is 500,000,000 dollars a good number for annual spend? Or does that change as we go out in the future because the company clearly is growing and perhaps that needs to increase to maintain the same impact? Speaker 200:44:59Yes. We don't really have a target on the acquisition number. And so we kind of give you a rough guide because it's helpful I think for your modeling purposes. But as we think about opportunities, we want to buy companies that again first fit our strategic filter where we think we're the natural owner there and we can create value for our customers. And then the financial filter, which is are we going to exceed our cost of capital and create economic profit for our shareholders. Speaker 200:45:24Those are the two things we look at. And so we're not opportunity we're not capital constrained in that respect. And so the extent we find those opportunities, we're going to go do that. So we've spent as much as $3,000,000,000 in a given year and this year is going to be a little more muted obviously, partly again for the internal constraint of we Speaker 300:45:44want to make sure that Speaker 200:45:44we can digest and execute what we buy over time. So we'll give you an update as we go get into 2025 what we think the outlook is, but it is going Speaker 300:45:53to be more of a Speaker 200:45:54year to year look than some longer term outlook of what we're going to spend. Speaker 1400:45:59Thanks. On the employee attrition front, I know it's down from the peak of several years ago and that helps labor expense and margin expansion. But if I look at it from a different angle and say how low has it gotten before during economic slowdowns and downturns, how far away are we from that at this juncture? Speaker 200:46:23Well, I'd say if you think about we're at right Speaker 300:46:26kind of our benchmark level if you think about any normal run of period. Now if you take a very short look like April Speaker 200:46:34May of 2020 after COVID hit, right, it dropped near 0 because everyone was just trying to hold on and figure out what's happening in the world. But if Speaker 300:46:41you think about any longer run across Speaker 200:46:44a set of quarters, we're certainly at our best performance and we're not stopping. We think there's further opportunity for improvement. Obviously, the rate of improvement will slow. 0 is never the right answer in this category, but we think we can get better. Operator00:47:07At this time, there appears to be no further questions. Mr. Vander Ark, I'll turn the call back over to you for closing remarks. Speaker 200:47:14Thank you, Nick. I would like to thank the entire Republic Services team for their focus on exceeding customer expectations and commitment to driving value for all of our stakeholders. Have a wonderful rest of the summer and be safe. Operator00:47:30Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by