Cushman & Wakefield Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 29, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Megan McGrath, Head of Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and welcome to Cushman and Wakefield's Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Earlier today, we issued a press release announcing our financial results for the period. This release along with today's presentation can be found on our Investor Relations website at ir. Cushmanwakefield.com. Please turn to the page in our presentation labeled Cautionary Note on Forward Looking Statements.

Speaker 1

Today's presentation contains forward looking statements based on our current forecast and estimates of future events. These statements should be considered estimates only and actual results may differ materially. During today's call, we will refer to non GAAP financial measures as outlined by SEC guidelines. Reconciliations of GAAP to non GAAP financial measures, definitions of non GAAP financial measures and other related information are found within the financial tables of our earnings release and the appendix of today's presentation. Also, please note that throughout the presentation comparisons and growth rates are to the comparable periods of 2023 and in local currency unless otherwise stated.

Speaker 1

And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Michelle McKay.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Megan. I've now been the CEO of Cushman and Wakefield for a year and the progress our teams have made during that time has been impressive. We have never settled, committing to what we have said and executing on our plan relentlessly, setting clear targets and goals for what we needed to achieve for ourselves and for our investors and then getting it done. Let me speak about exceeding those targets. A year ago, we started off strong, refinancing over $1,000,000,000 of debt and committing to reducing our leverage by a minimum of $200,000,000 by mid year 2025.

Speaker 2

We have already reduced our debt by $100,000,000 through the Q2, and we plan to make another $50,000,000 reduction this quarter, putting us ahead of our plans. We have also reduced our interest costs twice this year on both of our outstanding term loans as we continue to have staunch support from our term loan lenders, in both cases exceeding our plan. We have also exceeded our plans on free cash flow conversion, reporting a substantial improvement of more than $130,000,000 in year to date free cash flow versus the prior year period. And today, we are reporting our 3rd consecutive quarter of leasing revenue growth, our 5th consecutive quarter of meeting or beating expectations. And for the first half of twenty twenty four, our adjusted EBITDA margins are up over 40 basis points compared to the same period last year.

Speaker 2

To add to all of this, we announced the sale of a non core asset, which was targeted for sale late last year and whose proceeds will be used to reduce leverage and fuel growth. We are getting it done in every aspect of our business every day. Now, I'll turn the call over to Neil to review the Q2 financials, and then I'll come back and speak to you in more detail about our plans for growth.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Michelle, and good afternoon, everyone. 2nd quarter trends demonstrated continued strength in our leasing business and highlight the work we've done to drive improved profitability and cash flow. While fee revenue of $1,600,000,000 for the 2nd quarter was down 2% versus prior year and adjusted EBITDA of $139,000,000 was down 4%, adjusted EBITDA on a year to date basis has grown 6% and adjusted EPS of $0.20 is $0.02 higher than last year for the 6 month period. Our adjusted EBITDA margin for the Q2 increased sequentially to 8.8%, taking the margin for the 1st 6 months to 7%, up 44 basis points over prior year as cost savings and operational efficiencies offset the impact of inflation and lower revenue. Taking a look at our services line results, our leasing business continues to perform well, growing 2% in the quarter.

Speaker 3

The growth in Q2 was again largely global in nature with Americas Leasing up 2%, APAC Leasing up 7% and EMEA Leasing flat. In the Americas, continue to see solid performance in midsized leasing deals, which demonstrates the breadth of stabilization in the leasing market. Industrial, office and retail leasing all grew in the quarter. In EMEA, we experienced growth in Central and Eastern Europe, while Germany underperformed. APAC saw particular strength in India and Japan.

Speaker 3

Our capital markets fee revenue declined 14%. Facing the strong Q2 last year, which was our highest quarter of capital markets revenue for the year, Americas Capital Markets revenue declined 19%, but grew 19% sequentially, showing increased momentum. Revenues in the quarter increased in industrial and retail, while the office and multifamily sectors saw declines. EMEA and APAC continued to show strength, up 7% 19% respectively. Turning to services, revenue was flat versus the prior year adjusting for the previously discussed contract change or down 2% as reported.

Speaker 3

Our APAC services business remained strong, achieving 2nd quarter growth of 9%, once again driven by strong project management performance, particularly in India and Australia. While EMEA services revenues declined in the quarter, we did see services margins grow, setting a solid foundation for profitable growth. In the Americas, services revenue was flat for the quarter, excluding a contract change or down 3% as reported. Facility services grew 2%, property management revenues were flat, while project development services declined as office clients deferred expansion plans. We expect to see improvements in this business line as office leasing activity accelerates.

Speaker 3

In our GOS business, we are pleased with some very large wins that we've signed this year, including the global mandate for Standard Chartered Bank. Weaker multifamily transactional volumes have impacted our Greystone joint venture, which experienced a $6,000,000 year over year decline in equity income contribution. We expect Greystone earnings to remain pressured in the short term, but to benefit from a transactional market recovery in multifamily when it occurs. Today, we announced the divestiture of a small non core services business. This business has historically contributed 100 and $20,000,000 to $140,000,000 in annual revenue at mid teens margins.

Speaker 3

We sold the business for a transaction value of $165,000,000 and we'll receive gross cash proceeds of approximately $130,000,000 at close, which is expected to occur during the Q3. We plan to use the proceeds for strategic growth investments and debt pay down consistent with our long term capital allocation strategy. Shifting to cash flow and the balance sheet, we continue to make considerable progress on free cash flow conversion. Free cash flow for the quarter was $10,000,000 versus a $27,000,000 use of cash in the Q2 of 2023. Our first half cash flow usage of 126,000,000 dollars compares favorably to 2023, improving by over 130,000,000 driven by our ongoing efforts around working capital efficiencies.

Speaker 3

During the quarter, we repaid $45,000,000 of term loan debt due in 2025, reducing the outstanding balance to $98,000,000 We also repriced an additional $1,000,000,000 of term loan B due in 2,030 late in the quarter, lowering the applicable interest rate by 35 basis points. Year to date, we have repriced $2,000,000,000 in term loans and paid down $100,000,000 in debt, all of which is expected to reduce our annual cash interest expense by approximately 14 $1,000,000 Finally, moving to our full year outlook. On the revenue side, we continue to expect leasing revenue growth in the low to mid singledigit range and improving capital markets revenue growth in the second half of the year. In services, we expect flat organic revenue growth returning to mid single digit organic growth during 2025. On the cost side, we expect inflation and higher incentive compensation to be mostly offset by our cost efficiency measures for the full year.

Speaker 3

In the Q3, we expect expenses to be roughly $25,000,000 to $30,000,000 higher than last year, primarily due to a resetting of incentive compensation, which had been reduced in last year's Q3. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Michelle.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Neel. Now let's pivot to growth. We've spent the last year building the foundation of an enterprise that creates the best platform possible to accelerate and drive performance for 2025 and beyond. Our strategy for growth and the allocation of capital to drive our business forward is predicated on the philosophy that the world of commercial real estate has fundamentally changed. And if we want to win, old playbooks must be thrown out.

Speaker 2

The way that we approach and engage with clients incorporates a more integrated built world, Silos must be broken down and the enterprise must be connected in the way that we recruit talent, manage relationships and invest in our portfolio of services. And we see huge potential for our integrated platform and the more connected way in which we are now operating. Since the beginning of the year, we have been realigning our capital allocation to this philosophy. We have heightened collaboration between our research and our sales teams, allowing us to more effectively target regions and subsectors for growth investments in our leasing business. And it is clear through our results over the past few quarters that our strategy has paid off.

Speaker 2

We are laser focused on providing integrated insights and execution for our clients. And to that end, we've been recruiting and protecting accretive talent and modernizing our capital markets platform to provide the sophisticated service and data our clients need. And we are actively managing our portfolio and balance sheet to position the company for profitable future growth. We have sold non core assets and walked away from less accretive services businesses, taking some short term pain for the clear long term benefit of a stronger client base and increasing flexibility to invest in higher value services opportunities. You will see us option into organic and inorganic investments to drive growth.

Speaker 2

Our hard earned results over the past year reflect the grit and the dedication to clients that define our teams and culture at Cushman and Wakefield. We are proud of what we have delivered on and energized about the opportunities we will create in the quarters and years ahead. Now, I'll turn the call over to the operator for your questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer First question comes from Steven Sheldon with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, thanks. Really appreciate you taking my questions here. First, Michelle, I wanted to maybe ask about some of the commentary you just had. Can you just talk some about your producer capacity as you think about leasing in capital markets as industry activity continues to recover here? I know you don't report producer headcount nor do you have any peers, but how is your senior producer headcount looking now versus this point last year?

Speaker 4

And generally, how do you think about your positioning to benefit as transaction volumes seem poised to increase?

Speaker 2

Yes, you're right. We don't report out producer number, if you will, but we are up from last year as an overall number. And so the capacity just just doing exceptionally, especially in some of the larger deals. I talked a couple of times on the earnings calls about 100,000 square foot transactions, but they're doing as well in the core markets as well. So we're really spread equally and well between say the 20,000 square foot tenant and the 200,000 square foot tenant.

Speaker 2

And in Capital Markets, we set up a program in the beginning of the year to make sure and ensure that we are locking down and locking in our key capital markets talent.

Speaker 4

Got it. That's helpful. Good to hear. And then maybe just in services, can you talk some about what you're seeing in terms of winning new large contracts? How is that progressing relative to your expectations?

Speaker 4

And can you just give some more detail about the types of solutions that are seeing stronger demand right now in that segment?

Speaker 2

Yes. Let me go a bit into how things have changed. I think that's going to be helpful. What you can see play out in the big game today with our services clients is you have to have the global platform or you won't be invited into the conversation. And we've talked about how there's a multi pronged decision going on, on the client side that includes meeting patterns of employees and having that data, workplace experience, shifting ESG, supply chain complexities, e commerce trends, things like power usage.

Speaker 2

So to be able to address the right now needs of the clients, you have to have these solid organizations. I made a reference to that in my script. Your senior leadership across the globe has to be pulled in together and share all the best practices again and again and always. And some examples of this kind of work and wins that we're getting, Neil made reference to Standard Charter. We also won a very large transaction in EMEA earlier in the year where we had to bring in that worldwide perspective.

Speaker 2

And DTCC was also a big win for us. It's very complicated RFP, global portfolio optimization work, right? That's how the client is thinking now, not just about how much space am I going to take up. So we've expanded into consulting on these transactions, bringing the team together that does financial analysis, interior workplace stuff, location analysis, tenant rep and we compete against 9 firms for something like that. But the truth is, how many of those firms do you really think will qualify to do something that integrated, not many.

Speaker 2

And so what we know now is that in order to continue to service and grow the client, you have to have a culture that embraces constant change.

Speaker 4

Got it. Thanks. Appreciate all the color.

Operator

The next question comes from Ronald Kamdem with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, just two quick ones. So staying on services a little bit, I think you talked about organic revenue growth flat in 24%, but potentially getting to mid single digits sort of next year. Just if you could just double click on that comment, what kind of visibility or what gives you sort of confidence that you can get there and so forth?

Speaker 3

Sure, If you think about services, let's say, there are lots of components to that. Our story has remained pretty consistent this year. If you break it up by geography, for example, in APAC, the business is strong. We've seen 8% year over year growth and it continues to grow. We are one of the largest facilities management providers in Singapore and we are expanding our client base and seeing very nice margins there.

Speaker 3

On the EMEA side is where we did a lot of restructuring during the year and we focused on our design and build business where we basically worked on improving margins. The great news there is some of those projects are more short term in nature. So as we move through those contracts, we should see a pickup there. Our Facility Services business in the U. S.

Speaker 3

Is a very large business for us, but just we like a lot. That business is growing 2% this year, but we are seeing some good wins there. And so feel pretty good about getting that back to mid to high single digit growth as we look through 2025. Michel spoke about primarily our global Occupier Services business. That business, once again, big wins.

Speaker 3

Now those are very long contracts. So that will take a while for us to see that momentum build. But that will sort of be what fuels the Global Services business. And then finally, where we have had some pressure is around the property management, project management business. That's all very short term in nature.

Speaker 3

And with the office and the constraints in build outs of office, we've seen that business challenged in the short term. But once again, it's very short term, so we expect that to pick up accurately and really drive the growth through 2025.

Speaker 4

Great. And then just my second question was just kind of coming back to capital markets a little bit. I know we've had a lot of fits and starts. Just curious what you're seeing on the ground in July and so forth? And what the messaging to the market is?

Speaker 4

Is it sort of green shoots? Is it still too early? Just trying to get a sense of where we are in that sort of recovery process? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. I'm going to answer that one for you. What we are looking at here is what we're calling internally a waterfall effect. So we believe the majority of the uncertainty around rates and inflation has started to move into the rearview mirror. We've seen better inflation data like we all know and the economy has remained really resilient.

Speaker 2

So this is positive for our capital markets. And we started to see leasing take the lead. And we believe when the Fed cuts rates, which we believe will be soon, it will signal to the market that it's time to move into commercial real estate if you haven't done it already into capital markets. And we expect some of the money on the sidelines to engage really quickly, but that may result in closed transactions showing up in the beginning of 2025. Subsequent rate cuts are going to create this waterfall effect, because we think that more assets will start to move in as rates are reduced.

Speaker 2

And that 2023 2024 for Capital Markets is going to be a year that people are members to smart investors got into commercial real estate. On our side, when we're looking at what's happening, we look back at last quarter and we're starting to see some really strong trends, especially in areas that we invested in like APAC, up 19%, where we invested in capital markets in Australia in particular over the course of last year, EMEA up 7%. We're seeing some really strong pipelines there, especially in markets like the UK. And in the Americas, we're sequentially up quarter to quarter and industrial started to return to growth, it's up 17% over that period after 6 consecutive quarters of decline. So we're really looking forward to the market that's coming and have really intentionally set ourselves up really well to take advantage of it.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks so much.

Operator

The next question comes from Anthony Paolone with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Maybe just first to understand the brackets around the business for the full year versus last quarter. I mean, how would you sum it up in comparison to how you were feeling about 2024 in its entirety? Like is this better or not as good as last quarter? I'm just trying to read through some of the language here.

Speaker 3

Tony, I think it's turning out exactly as we expected. But certainly on the expense side, we focused on the first half of the year really driving margin and we saw the margin improvement. So that was very encouraging. We did expect to step back in capital markets and actually sequentially grew around 19%. So we are seeing that business pick up.

Speaker 3

And then on the leasing side, really exceeded expectations. The leasing numbers are slightly hidden by a very strong Q2 a year ago, particularly in New York. And so we had a tough comp renew on the leasing side. But what we've seen is we see the broadening of the leasing market and we've seen this is the 3rd quarter of growth. Just to give you an anecdote, in the Americas, our office leasing in core and mid sized deals was up 19% versus 8% in the 2nd quarter rather in the Q1.

Speaker 3

So just a lot of pipeline building. So overall, I think it's working out. It's turning out to be we're ahead of plan through the 6 months.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then I guess then on the second question I would have, the margins you picked up 40 bps in the first half of the year versus last year. I mean how should we think about just the full year and the way things are tracking in terms of order of magnitude change?

Speaker 3

Sure, sure. So exactly consistent with what we said at the beginning of the year, our teams did exceptional work towards the end of last year and early this year to drive those margins and we saw the margin accretion as we expected. As we look to the back half of the year, we will have the incentive compensation difference in Q3 as a result of pulling down incentive compensation a year ago. But other than that, we expect that our efficiencies will offset any of the growth investment. As we look forward, we really are looking for a balance between how we're investing and how we manage margins.

Speaker 3

So very focused on accretive growth, but at the same time, being very intentional around our spend, so that we're very well positioned for the recovery. We feel like we are at the bottom of the cycle. And so we want to be ahead of that as we come out towards the end of the year into next year.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Michael Griffin with Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Great, thanks. I wanted to go back to your commentary there, Neil, on the leasing market, particularly for the office side. As we think about it, I think we've heard that it continues to be those trophy and Class A product that's still winning kind of most of the deals. But given what seems like a rosier picture for the market overall, have you noticed a pickup in maybe that kind of lower tier office space leasing up? Or is it still mainly geared toward that high quality product?

Speaker 3

I think it's Michael, it stayed on the high quality. I think high quality has just performed exceptionally well in major markets in New York and other large markets. We have seen a pickup though in the smaller and midsized deals. So that's a change and a positive change is what we're seeing is we're seeing a broadening of the leasing market. Companies are now starting to say, okay, the work from home phenomenon has now is in the rearview mirror.

Speaker 3

We need to have the space for our people to be in at least 3 days a week. So I think that's broadening. And then also leasing globally was up to this consistency by geography. And so all of that points to a healthier market as we look into the back half of the year into next year.

Speaker 6

Great. That's helpful. And then just turning kind of capital allocation priorities. Michelle, I know you kind of laid out your thoughts to the back half of the year in your prepared remarks. But I mean, should we think about right now as trying to prioritize the balance sheet, paying down debt, or could we see you pivot to offense, whether it's M and A or other external growth opportunities, if the right thing comes along?

Speaker 2

Yes, absolutely. I mean, we are in a growth mindset headspace and we know that we can walk and chew gum at the same time. So you heard us today announce we're going to pay down another $50,000,000 this quarter. We have some cash coming in from the asset sale, but equally as important, we are doing really well on free cash flow. So that opens up all the pockets for us, whether that's small M and A, M and A or organic investing in the businesses.

Speaker 6

Great. That's it for me. Thanks for the time.

Operator

The next question comes from Peter Abramowitz with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yes. Thank you. So you just you'd call out weakness in the capital markets, just kind of due to the uncertainty of the rate environment. Just seems like the market may be turning a corner here late in the quarter and potentially into the Q3. Can you just comment on how things have sort of progressed through July?

Speaker 5

And then also just in terms of the timing of a turnaround with some rate stability here for the last couple of months, I guess, when do you expect things to start to inflect?

Speaker 2

I mean, I think, 1st of all, we're not going to comment on July, but the inflection point will be the first time the Fed makes the move. That will start to lead people into the right place to make decisions, but it's probably going to be a small move. Let's say it's 25 basis points. What you'll see is some assets transacting immediately, but we believe the volume or the waterfall as we refer to it will actually begin to happen late in the year and the beginning of next year into 2025 because the first move isn't material and that will probably be small.

Speaker 5

Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. And then one, just a follow-up on Michael's question, similar question, but just digging into it a little bit more. Just given some of the comments around your strength on leasing, just wondering within office and geographically, have you seen any points of strength specifically within some of the gateway office markets that you would call out?

Speaker 2

I mean, I think that we've seen over the course of the year certainly strength in New York in particular, but a lot of the gateway you're starting to see pickup and even in areas like San Francisco, you're starting to see some positive progress there too.

Speaker 5

All right. That's all for me. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Michelle McKay for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.

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Key Takeaways

  • Cushman & Wakefield has reduced its debt by $100 million through Q2 and plans an additional $50 million reduction this quarter, keeping it ahead of its goal to cut leverage by $200 million by mid-2025.
  • The company improved year-to-date free cash flow by over $130 million versus 2023 and has repriced $2 billion of term loans while paying down $100 million in debt, lowering annual cash interest expense by approximately $14 million.
  • Leasing revenue grew for the third consecutive quarter (+2% in Q2) with global growth in the Americas (+2%) and APAC (+7%), contributing to a 44-basis-point year-to-date increase in adjusted EBITDA margins to 7.0%.
  • The company sold a non-core services business for a transaction value of $165 million, generating approximately $130 million in gross cash proceeds to fund growth initiatives and further debt reduction.
  • For full-year 2024, Cushman & Wakefield forecasts low-to-mid single-digit leasing revenue growth, flat organic services revenue before returning to mid-single digits in 2025, and expects to offset inflation and higher incentive compensation with cost efficiency measures.
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