Informatica Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 30, 2024

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon. Thank you for joining today's Informatica fiscal and Q2 2024 Lender Call. My name is Cole, and I'll be the moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I'd now like to turn it over to Victoria Hyde Dunn, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Operator

You may proceed.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining Informatica's Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today are Amit Walia, Chief Executive Officer and Mike McLaughlin, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, we have a couple of reminders. Our earnings press release and slide presentation are available on our Investor Relations website at investors.

Speaker 1

Informatica.com. Our prepared remarks will be posted on the IR website after the conference call concludes. During the call, we will be making comments of a forward looking nature. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of various risks and uncertainties. For more information about some of these risks, please review the company's SEC filings, including the section titled Risk Factors, including our most recent 10 Q and 10 ks filing for the full year 2023.

Speaker 1

These forward looking statements are based on information as of today, and we assume no obligation to publicly update or revise our forward looking statements, except as required by law. Additionally, we will be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures. These non GAAP financial measures are in addition to, and not a substitute for, measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these items to the nearest U. S.

Speaker 1

GAAP measure can be found in this afternoon's press release and our slide presentation available on Informatica's Investor Relations website. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Amit.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Victoria, and everyone for joining us today. I will start today's call by summarizing 3 key points. First, we had a solid second quarter. Our results were within and above all second quarter guidance ranges. This was driven by continued strong customer momentum and consistent execution from a cloud only consumption driven strategy.

Speaker 2

2nd, we continue to deliver the best data management product on the industry's only AI powered platform. After a 12 month extensive private preview, we have launched Clear GPT, our generative AI chat interface on the IDMC platform. Informatica is now the industry's only cloud data management platform with AI and GenAI capabilities for modern enterprises and it is the Switzerland for data and now as well as for AI. Curt, given our strong execution in the first half of the year, we are raising cloud subscription ARR, subscription ARR, non GAAP operating income and adjusted unlevered free cash flow after tax guidance for the full year. We remain focused on supporting our customers' digital transformation, cloud modernization and now the Gen AI initiatives.

Speaker 2

Starting with the Q2 results, total revenue grew 6.6% year over year, subscription ARR grew 15% year over year and cloud subscription ARR grew 37% year over year, both exceeding the high end of our guidance range. We delivered a record $703,000,000 in cloud subscription ARR exceeding the $700,000,000 mark for the first time. We strengthened our cash position and grew non GAAP operating income by over 31% year over year above the midpoint of the guidance range. The macro environment remained stable in the Q2, consistent with the prior quarter. Approximately 74% of cloud net new ARR in the trailing 12 months came from new cloud workloads and expansion.

Speaker 2

We are attracting new customers, expanding opportunities with existing customers and driving new workloads in the G2K market, supported by a robust partner ecosystem and a very healthy cloud pipeline. Customers that spend more than $1,000,000 in subscription ARR increased 28% year over year to 2 72 customers. Customers spending more than $5,000,000 in subscription ARR grew 30% year over year. We saw continued strong growth in our average subscription ARR per customer which has now reached 321,500, a 17% increase year over year. Let me share 2 customer stories.

Speaker 2

American Airlines is the largest airline in the world offering safe, dependable and friendly air transportation to its customers along the numerous loyalty services. Dedicated to making every flight something special, American Airlines purchased a cloud data quality product to improve real time customer experience and retention through excellent loyalty program incentives such as low fare options, mileage redemption, in flight entertainment and more. 1 of the world's largest graphic processing unit suppliers or GPU suppliers selected Informatica's IDMC platform which includes MDM, data quality, data integration and data governance capabilities. Next, approximately 26% of cloud net new ARR in trailing 12 months came from on prem to cloud migrations or modernizations as we say. This is still a very small portion of our on prem installed base, but it continues to provide us with the opportunity to modernize our customers and grow our cloud business.

Speaker 2

We see strong customer adoption of Power Center Cloud Edition, representing over 80% of all modernization deals in Q2. Let me share 2 customer stories here. Westpac, which is Australia's 1st bank and a major player in New Zealand, managing numerous legacy apps following acquisitions. To support its business strategy which focuses on decision making, automation and AI, the bank has expanded its partnership with Informatica transitioning from PowerCenter to the IDMC platform. This will help Westpac reduce data management costs, expedite automation initiatives and elevate the customer experience across branches, online platforms and call centers.

Speaker 2

As a leading medical technology company, Siemens Healthineers is committed to improving access to healthcare for underserved communities worldwide and is striving to overcome the most threatening diseases. The company is principally active in the areas of imaging, diagnostics, cancer care and minimally invasive therapies augmented by digital technology and AI. Siemens Healthineers opted to modernize their on prem Informatica data governance and catalog solutions to IDMC and further expand the footprint to include cloud data quality to address regulatory requirements and provide trustworthy data to the enterprise. At Informatica World earlier in May this year, we've welcomed thousands of global customers, prospects, ecosystem partners and GSI partners. We had the opportunity to engage, collaborate and see firsthand how Informatica empowers enterprises to democratize data.

Speaker 2

We also heard testimonials from how the powerful combination of data and AI can deliver unprecedented business outcomes. We featured Scott Guthrie, EVP of Cloud and AI Group at Microsoft as a main stage speaker. We announced the public preview of IDMC as an Azure native ISV service, the private preview of our data quality native app for Microsoft Fabric and the general availability of a cloud data access management support for Azure. We also featured Shreedhar Ravaswamy, CEO of Snowflake on main stage and announced our Jenny add blueprint for Snowflake Cortex and a new native SQL ELT for Snowflake. At Snowflake Summit, we announced the general availability of our Snowflake native app, the enterprise data integrator for high speed replication of critical enterprise data to Snowflake, expansion of our native SQL ELT to support Snowflake Gen AI functions and a cloud data access management support for Snowflake integrated with Snowflake Horizon governance capabilities.

Speaker 2

We were awarded Databricks 2024 Data Integration Partner of the Year at the Data and AI Summit where we announced our Gen AI Blueprint for Databricks PBRx, full verification of Unity Catalog support across IDMC, our native SQL ELT capabilities for Databricks and the availability of a cloud data integration, no cost service tier with Databricks Partner Connect. We were awarded MongoDB's 20 24 Build with Partner of the Year as well. We launched our cloud data governance and catalog service natively on Oracle Cloud. We also expanded or rather extended our support for OpenTable formats in Apache Iceberg. Iceberg adoption is in its early stages of growth across our cloud data ecosystem partners from Snowflake to AWS and Microsoft Fabric and now with the acquisition of Tableau by Databricks.

Speaker 2

Informatica's new OpenTable format connectors supposed advanced data ingestion and integration use cases to drive large scale data engineering operations for high performance analytic and ML projects. Turning to GSI Partners, some of our largest partners have experienced significant growth within the Informatica practices and are expanding their data and AI practices. We have seen growing interest in developing and taking solutions to market based on IDMC. For instance, LTI Mindfre launched a solution to assist non Informatica businesses with legacy on prem data integration products in modernizing and transitioning to Informatica IDMC. As part of our ongoing strategy, we are seeing more partners assume a greater role in implementation services work supporting our customers and we welcome that.

Speaker 2

We continue to be the leading innovators in our industry. Over the years, we've invested over $1,000,000,000 in R and D and are the biggest innovators of data management engineering in our space. We've innovated many categories in data management. We were pleased to be recognized by IDC as the market share leader in the 2023 worldwide report for both the data integration and data intelligence markets. We were also recognized as champion of the Blue Research 2024 market update reports for data fabric, data quality and test data management.

Speaker 2

Now let me turn to Genii, which is at the top of our customers' minds. As I speak with CDOs, CIOs and digital leaders across the globe, there is a universal agreement that everyone is ready for JENEI except their data. Data management brings AI to life, ensuring trust, responsibility, ethical use and value creation. Our efforts to assist customers with their AI strategic initiatives are 2 fold, Informatica for JENEi and JENEi from Informatica, both available on the single IDMC platform. Now Informatica for JENEI includes all of IDMC capabilities data integration, data governance, data quality, master data management, app integration and cataloging which are critical to processing mission critical workloads.

Speaker 2

In June, IDMC processed 97,000,000,000,000,000 cloud transactions per month, growing 59% year over year. At Informatica World, we unveiled new features and product enhancements including building no code Gen AI apps with prompt engineering, RAG and React AI agent support. We support popular LLMs and vector DBs with enterprise grade scalability and governance. We included new capabilities for contextualizing LLMs on enterprise data including chunking, embedding and ingestion into vector DDs. IDMC will add support sources for documents, images and video sources with full integration across cloud data access management policies, data quality rules, catalog and integration pipelines.

Speaker 2

IDMC is LLM agnostic, future proof and has out of the box connectors for easy navigation of any model from any hyperscaler to small providers. A few fantastic real life use cases include a California based credit union uses IDMC to optimize sentiment analysis with customer support training. It provides proactive customer service by identifying customer support KPIs, reducing customer handling time through automated analysis of large volumes of phone interactions and providing decision support using OpenAI. A large marketing company uses IDMC to build GenAI based incident management, alleviating the burden on the incident management team by automating incident risk, incident assessment and providing actionable insights with sentiment analysis using LLM with the RAC framework. Our large pension firm in Canada is using IDMC to build a Gen AI based intelligent chatbot, improving employee productivity by reducing the processing time for queries on insurance proposals and claims through automated analysis and decision support using locally hosted LLMs.

Speaker 2

Now turning to Gen AI from Informatica. We launched Care's GPT, the 1st Gen AI powered data management assistant grounded by enterprise metadata intelligence leveraging core IDMC capabilities. In May, we announced the general availability of Clair GPT in North America after an extensive 12 month preview program. TARE GPT is chat GPT for enterprise data, providing capabilities like data discovery, metadata exploration, finding data quality, data lineage and even creating ELT pipelines. Along with Clear GPT, we also have Clear CoPilot capabilities embedded in all the products that sit on IDMC, providing in context product data assistant with Clear generated classifications.

Speaker 2

One of Informatica's key differentiators is its metadata system of record, which provides valuable insights into data assets' location, quality and relevance for analytics and data science use cases. This is more than just Informatica metadata. It is metadata across the enterprise, data warehouses, applications, BI tools on mainframes from trained LLMs and SLMs. Clear, our AI engine is now leveraging over 49 petabytes of active metadata in the cloud. Customers are in the early stages of piloting Clair GPT.

Speaker 2

Since its launch, over enterprise customers have consumed IPUs on Clear GPT usage, primarily for data discovery and exploration use cases. To give you a few examples, SSM Healthcare uses ClearGPT to enhance data literacy with its natural language interface for data discovery, examining lineage of the data and thoroughly assessing data quality. With ClearGPT, they provide a self-service interface for medical information officers to effortlessly get insights on the data such as the number of orthopedic providers in their network ensuring appropriate patient coverage. A global supply chain data analyst use ClearGPT to monitor, maintain and report on product movements such as receipt, dispatch and storage without needing SQL. These examples provide just a glimpse into real life use cases and stories that customers share feedback with us.

Speaker 2

To further show our commitment to helping enterprise customers embrace trusted and holistic data for their AI initiatives, we are introducing a new promotion in August to drive broad ClearGPT adoption. The offer is for eligible North America customers to use ClearGPT at no additional cost through the end of 2024. Now looking into the second half of the year, we are pleased to raise 4 guidance metrics for the full year, including cloud subscription ARR to 35.5 percent from 35% earlier. We had good execution and momentum in the first half of the year and believe our operational health remains very strong as evidenced by a predictable cloud subscription revenue business model, our strong customer base, healthy cloud pipeline and retention rates and growing unlevered free cash flow. Our growth priorities continue to center on 3 strategic initiatives outlined at Investor Day.

Speaker 2

First, data driven digital transformation is crucial for our customers to achieve digital leadership. In fact, with Jenny Eye on the horizon, customers accelerating those. 2nd, modernizing legacy data estates to help enterprises harness the advantages of being a digital business. And lastly, delivering JennyI capabilities and assisting customers in exploring the intersection of data and AI for data management. These important initiatives for modern enterprises are a tailwind for Infobatica Glass for many years to come.

Speaker 2

As I wrap up, I want to thank all my Informatica colleagues, our partners, our customers and our shareholders for their ongoing support. With that,

Speaker 3

let me turn the call over to Mike. Mike, please take it away. Thank you, Amit, and good afternoon, everyone. Q2 was another solid financial quarter across the board with all key growth and profitability metrics within or above our guidance metrics. I'll begin my discussion of Q2 results with a quick review of the components that make up Informatica's annual recurring revenue, or ARR.

Speaker 3

Our ARR falls into 3 categories: cloud subscriptions, which grew 37% year over year self managed subscriptions, which we no longer actively sell and therefore are gradually declining and maintenance for on premise perpetual licenses that we no longer actively sell, which is also in gradual decline. With that in mind, let's start with total ARR, which was $1,670,000,000 an increase of 7.8% over the prior year. This growth was driven primarily by new cloud workloads, strong cloud net expansion with existing customers and stable self managed subscription and maintenance renewal rates. Foreign exchange rates negatively impacted total ARR by 2,000,000 dollars Cloud subscription ARR was $703,000,000 a 37% increase year over year and 10% sorry, dollars 10,600,000 above the midpoint of our May guidance. New cloud workloads and strong net expansion with existing customers drove cloud subscription net new ARR of $190,000,000 year over year and $50,000,000 sequentially.

Speaker 3

Cloud subscription ARR now represents 42% of total ARR, up from 33% a year ago. Foreign exchange negatively impacted cloud subscription ARR by about 720,000. Our cloud subscription net retention rate remained very strong in Q2. At the end user level, it was 119%, up 3 percentage points year over year and flat versus last quarter. Cloud subscription net retention rate at the global parent level was 126%, up 4 percentage points year over year and up 2 percentage points versus last quarter.

Speaker 3

Self managed subscription ARR declined in the quarter as expected to $494,000,000 This was down 2% sequentially and down 7% year over year, somewhat better than our expectations coming into the quarter. Subscription ARR, which is simply the sum of cloud ARR and self managed ARR, grew 15% year over year to $1,200,000,000 which was $18,500,000 above the midpoint of our May guidance. Foreign exchange rates negatively impacted subscription ARR by approximately $1,100,000 The third component of total ARR is maintenance for on premise perpetual licenses sold in the past, which now represents 28% of total ARR. Maintenance ARR was down approximately 7% year over year to 472,000,000 dollars This was in line with our expectations for the quarter. Modernizing our on premise customer base to Informatica's Intelligent Data Management Cloud is a large opportunity for us.

Speaker 3

As of the end of Q2, we have migrated 6.1% of our maintenance and self managed ARR base to cloud, up from 5.5% last quarter. We have a life to date average 2:one ARR uplift ratio on these migrations, including Power Center and Master Data Management migrations. In Q2, we closed a similar number of cloud modernization deals as in Q1. In the first half of this year, the number of modernization deals grew 58% year over year. And in the second half of the year, we expect modernization growth to be above our average cloud subscription ARR growth rate.

Speaker 3

To summarize our Q2 ARR performance, the 3 components of our ARR summed to 7.8% total ARR growth year over year. Cloud subscription ARR growth of 37% drove this increase, offset by gradual self managed subscription and maintenance ARR declines. We expect similar trends to continue throughout the second half of twenty twenty four as a direct result of our cloud only strategy. Now I'd like to review our revenue results for the Q2. GAAP total revenues were $401,000,000 an increase of 6.6% year over year.

Speaker 3

Foreign exchange rates negatively impacted total revenues by approximately $1,600,000 on a year over year basis. Our revenue was approximately $1,400,000 below the midpoint of our May guidance due to 2 primary factors. 1st, as a direct result of our strategy to shift more of our customers' implementation and support work to our professional services partners, professional service revenues were lower than our original forecast. This is a positive development for Informatica as our services partners are an important go to market channel and the services related to our software are an attractive business for those partners. To illustrate the importance of this channel, for the first half of the year, closed wins in which partners brought Informatica into the opportunities represented more than 30% of total bookings.

Speaker 3

The second factor impacting our GAAP total revenue this quarter was somewhat lower average term length of self managed subscription renewals. This resulted in less upfront recognized self managed subscription revenue per the ASC 606 accounting standard than our previous forecast. As most of you know, ASC 606 accounting for self managed subscription revenue does not impact ARR billings or cash flow. Shorter term lengths on renewals means less GAAP revenues recognized upfront per ASC 606 that ARR billings and cash flow are not affected. We expect these two trends, lower professional services revenue and shorter self managed renewal terms, to continue for the remainder of the year, and therefore, we are lowering our full year 2024 GAAP total revenue forecast accordingly, as we will discuss in a moment.

Speaker 3

Subscription revenue, which includes cloud subscriptions and self managed subscriptions, increased 16% year over year to 264,000,000 representing 66 percent of total revenue compared to 61 percent a year ago. Our quarterly subscription renewal rate was 90%, down 2 percentage points year over year due to lower self managed subscription renewal rates offset by higher cloud subscription renewal rates. Our subscription renewal rates have been largely consistent with our expectations so far this year. Revenues in our maintenance and professional services category were $136,000,000 Maintenance revenue of 100 and $16,000,000 represented 29% of total revenue for the quarter, and our maintenance renewal rate was 96%, up 2 percentage points year over year. Professional services revenues, which includes implementation, consulting and education, make up the remainder of this category and are down almost $4,000,000 year over year.

Speaker 3

As I mentioned a moment ago, our implementation services revenue has been declining as our services partners assume a greater share of that work for our customers, and we expect this trend to continue in the second half of the year. Cloud subscription revenue was 161,000,000 dollars or 61 percent of subscription revenues, growing 35% year over year. As a reminder, due to the timing differences between revenue and ARR recognition, the relative growth rates of these two metrics may differ from period to period. Turning to geographic distribution of our business. U.

Speaker 3

S. Revenues grew 7% year over year to $256,000,000 representing 64% of total revenue, while international revenue grew 5% to 144,000,000 dollars Using exchange rates from Q2 last year, international revenue would have been approximately $1,600,000 higher in the quarter, representing international revenue growth of 6.5 percent year over year. Informatica's consumption based pricing unit, the IPU, represented approximately 58% of 2nd quarter cloud new bookings. The remainder of cloud of Q2 cloud bookings were primarily for customer or supplier records for our MDM products, which is also a multiyear committed consumption based pricing model. We added 3 new IPU services, including Clair GPT Now I'd like to move on to our profitability metrics.

Speaker 3

Please note, I will discuss non GAAP results unless otherwise stated. In Q2, our gross margin was 82%, an increase of over 1.6 percentage points year over year. We remain focused on maintaining healthy gross margins as our business transitions to the cloud. Operating expenses were consistent with expectations. Operating income was $115,000,000 growing 31% year over year and exceeding the midpoint of our May guidance by almost 2,000,000 dollars Operating margin was 28.7 percent, a 5.4 percentage point improvement from a year ago.

Speaker 3

Adjusted EBITDA was 119,000,000 dollars and net income was $71,000,000 Net income per diluted share was $0.23 based on approximately 315,000,000 outstanding diluted shares. Basic share count was approximately 301,000,000 shares. Adjusted unlevered free cash flow after tax was 71,000,000 better than expected due to faster cash collections and other working capital dynamics. Combined with Q1 results, unlevered free cash flow for the first half of twenty twenty four was in line with historical linearity. I'll update our expectations for the full year in a moment.

Speaker 3

Cash paid for interest in the quarter was $38,000,000 in line with expectations. In June, we repriced our $1,800,000,000 outstanding term loan, reducing the applicable margin by 50 basis points and eliminating the credit spread adjustment related to the transfer from LIBOR to SOFR. This repricing will save approximately $11,000,000 in pretax interest expense on an annual basis. We ended the 2nd quarter in a strong cash position with cash plus short term investments of $1,130,000,000 an increase of $307,000,000 year over year. Net debt was $704,000,000 and trailing 12 months of adjusted EBITDA was $529,000,000 This resulted in a net leverage ratio of 1.3x at the end of June.

Speaker 3

Now I'll turn to guidance, starting with the full year 2024. We are very pleased with our execution in the first half of twenty twenty four, and we have good momentum going into the second half of the year. This reflects confidence in our cloud only consumption driven strategy supported by strong customer momentum and renewal rates. Therefore, we are raising FY 2024 cloud subscription ARR by $3,000,000 and subscription ARR by $4,000,000 at the midpoint. We now expect cloud subscription ARR to be in the range of $829,000,000 to $843,000,000 representing approximately 35 point 5% year over year growth at the midpoint of the range.

Speaker 3

We now expect subscription ARR to be in the range of $1,265,000,000 to $1,299,000,000 representing approximately 13.2 percent year over year growth. We are reaffirming total ARR to be between $1,718,000,000 dollars 1.772000000000 representing approximately 7.3% year over year growth. Turning to total revenues, we expect the same dynamics regarding professional services and self managed renewal duration as we saw in Q2 to continue for the remainder of the year. We estimate this impact to be approximately $21,000,000 about evenly split between these two dynamics. Additionally, due to recent strengthening of Taking this all together, we are updating GAAP total revenues downward by approximately $25,000,000 to the range of $1,660,000,000 to $1,680,000,000 representing approximately 4.7 percent year over year growth at the midpoint of that range.

Speaker 3

It's very important to understand that this reduction in total revenue guidance does not reflect any change in our expectations for our core recurring revenue software business. Lower expectations for lower for low margin professional services revenues and lower upfront self managed revenue recognition pursuant to ASC 606 along with FX are the cause. We delivered better than expected bottom line results and are raising guidance for our non GAAP operating income by 5,000,000 dollars and adjusted unlevered free cash flow after tax by $10,000,000 at the midpoint. We now expect non GAAP operating income to be in the range of $538,000,000 to $558,000,000 representing approximately 18.5% year over year growth at the midpoint. And we now expect adjusted unlevered free cash flow after tax to be $545,000,000 to $565,000,000 representing 23% year over year growth.

Speaker 3

Turning to the Q3, we are establishing guidance for the Q3 ending September 30, 2024 as follows. We expect GAAP total revenues to be in the range of 412 dollars to $428,000,000 representing approximately 2.8% year over year growth at the midpoint. We expect subscription ARR to be in the range of $1,199,000,000 to $1,219,000,000 representing approximately 12.2% year over year growth. We expect cloud subscription ARR to be in the range of $738,000,000 to $748,000,000 representing approximately 35.2 percent year over year growth. We expect non GAAP operating income to be in the range of $139,000,000 to $151,000,000 representing approximately 13.2% year over year growth.

Speaker 3

All of those growth rates are at the midpoint. For modeling purposes, I would like to provide a few more pieces of additional information. First, we expect total ARR for the Q3 to be in the range of $1,660,000,000 to $1,690,000,000 representing approximately 6.3% year over year growth at the midpoint of the range. 2nd, we expect unadjusted sorry, we expect adjusted unlevered free cash flow after tax for the 3rd quarter to be in the range of $110,000,000 to $130,000,000 3rd, we estimate cash paid for interest will be approximately $36,000,000 in the 3rd quarter and approximately $146,000,000 for the full year using forward interest rates based on 1 month SOFR. 4th, with respect to taxes, our Q2 non GAAP tax rate was 23%.

Speaker 3

We expect that rate to continue for the full year 2024. And lastly, our share count assumptions. For the Q3, we expect basic weighted average shares outstanding to be approximately 304,000,000 shares and diluted weighted average shares outstanding to be approximately 312,000,000 shares. For the full year, we expect basic weighted average shares outstanding to be approximately 302,000,000 shares and diluted weighted average shares outstanding to be approximately 313,000,000 shares. In summary, we are very pleased with our 2nd quarter performance and the first half of the year.

Speaker 3

We are focused on executing our cloud only consumption driven strategy and delivering our 2024 guidance. Operator, you can now open the line for questions.

Operator

Our first question is from Matt Hedberg with RBC. Your line is now open.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks for taking my questions, guys. I guess, maybe for either of you, congrats on the results. I think, obviously, Mike, you called out some of the revenue items that impacted you guys. But I think it certainly looks like core underlying strength in subscription and cloud ARR was strong.

Speaker 3

I guess I wanted to ask a little bit more about your increased cloud ARR guidance. What are the primary reasons for this optimism? I mean, I think you mentioned maybe pipeline, just general customer interest? Just is there a macro element to this as well? Just sort of curious on that because it certainly look good to us.

Speaker 2

Sure. Thanks for the question, Mac. Look, I think we macro I said like we look the macro look appeared to be the same to us in last quarter as in Q1. I think what we are seeing is definitely the pipeline has been very healthy. This year Informatica World, some of you were there was the biggest Informatica World ever.

Speaker 2

And coming out of the pipeline of that Informatica World was the biggest pipeline that we've ever had. And going back to the 3 initiatives that customers are spending on, ongoing digital transformation, modernization and now Gen AI, it's actually become a Venn diagram. I think I said that before. To get to Geneye's customers will have to modernize even faster and they have to get to digital faster and then only they get the benefit of Geneye. And of course, the early innings in GenAI are also playing a role.

Speaker 2

People have to set their data estates in place. So and with IDMC, they can do the current initiatives that they are currently on and they can start experimenting Gen AI. That has allowed customers to be feel very future proofed in what they are implementing here. All of those we are seeing as being the tailwind to pipe create and healthy deal closure and also you see big deals like the $5,000,000 plus deals we talked about, ARR as well as the $1,000,000 pretty healthy growth over there.

Speaker 3

Got it. That makes sense. And then Mike, just maybe one for you on the strategic shift to more PS revenue going to partners. I guess I'm curious, is there a benefit to your margins over time due to this? And I guess secondarily, can you give us a sense for after this updated assumption, how much of your PS revenue is left, I guess, as we think towards calendar 'twenty five and beyond?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure. So it's going to be essentially margin neutral. We're a software company, not a professional services company. And while we have a great professional services organization, we're really proud of them. It's not a profit center for us.

Speaker 3

It's there to ensure the successful implementation of the software and to ensure that the customers realize the value that they should from the software once they own it. So we're very happy for our GSI and regional services partners to do that business instead of us if our customers want them to. We don't pay commissions for our salespeople to sell PS. It's more of a pull from our customers when they want it. So this decline is a natural trajectory.

Speaker 3

It's gone a little faster than we expected. It's declined over the last 3 years and we thought this year was going to be the bottom. But it's actually declining faster than that. And so we lowered guidance accordingly. I think the number if you look last year for our professional services including our education services was $97,000,000 and we had thought it was going to be about flat and we're taking it down as I said in the remarks by low double digits, dollars 10,000,000 $11,000,000 $12,000,000 for the year.

Speaker 3

Thanks a lot guys.

Operator

Our next question is from Alex Zukin with Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Hey, this is Patrick on for Alex. Just wanted to clarify, maintenance renewal rates are going higher, but duration is down. So can you just explain the dynamics there? Are self managed customers renewing, but you're just seeing more 1 2 year deals versus 2 3 year deals prior? And I'm curious as to how or if you can try to further accelerate that migration story?

Speaker 4

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes, sure, Patrick. So, let's start with a clarification because it's important to keep maintenance, which is on on prem perpetual licenses and self managed, which is essentially on prem subscriptions separately because the dynamics in terms of renewal are a little Maintenance contracts are almost all 1 year. They have been since the dawn of time. And the renewal rate there is very constant. The term of those renewals actually doesn't matter because maintenance is recognized ratably because it is a service, not a software license.

Speaker 3

It's all in the self managed piece, which is on prem subscription contracts. And that the amount that's recognized upfront per ASC 606 is hefty. And a change in the duration from 3 to 2 to 1 or anywhere in between has a remarkably large impact on the GAAP revenue recognition. So we had expected it to come down. It's a natural thing as we end up sale the product and more and more folks are preparing themselves to move to the cloud, if not today, maybe at the next renewal.

Speaker 3

And we see that trend of reduced renewal term actually as a confirmation that migrations are going to continue to move rapidly and hopefully move even faster because the customers are setting themselves up to move as indicated by voting with their feet as you will by shorter durations on the self managed contracts. So it's all self managed on prem, not maintenance. And the revenue the GAAP revenue reduction that we've established puts it, we think, as a realistic level for the rest of the year. And I can't not I can't end this answer though by reminding everybody that it doesn't affect ARR, it doesn't affect billings, It doesn't affect cash flow. As you can see, we've actually increased our bottom line guidance despite the fact that GAAP revenue is coming down.

Speaker 4

And then a quick follow-up, if you don't mind. In terms of what is contemplated in the implied second half net new cloud ARR guide, Any way to directionally think about whether there is more or less migration baked into that number given the implied ramp? Thanks.

Speaker 3

So, we haven't sort of explicitly changed our expectations for the pace of migrations through the year. As I mentioned in my remarks, we expect the growth of our migration both in terms of deals and dollars year over year to be faster than our average cloud subscription growth. We're guiding to 35.5% cloud subscription overall. Migrations will grow faster than that, reflecting all the things we've talked about over time, including Power Center Cloud Edition, making it easier, faster, less risk for our customers to move. And we remain confident in that forecast.

Speaker 3

We're optimistic that it will maybe go faster than that and particularly in 2025, we see lots of reasons to be optimistic. But for now, we're not changing our explicit expectations for migrations for the rest of the year.

Speaker 4

That's great. Thanks and congrats on the results.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Operator

We have a question from Kash Rangan with Goldman. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Hey, thank you very much. Congrats on the quarter. It looks like the cloud momentum is picking up. So Amit, high level question for you, as you approach 2025 with cloud ARR firmly above 20% of total ARR and with the cleanup done with respect to the ASC 606 revenue recognition of the on prem, the lowering the guide is the right thing to do. But how does this set you up for accelerating revenue growth rate potentially into double digits for next year?

Speaker 6

Thank you so much. And that's it for me.

Speaker 3

Look, I think it sets us up well for accelerating revenue growth, but double digits in 2023, this isn't official guidance, but 2025. So thank you. It is probably not realistic, but accelerating revenue growth, we do feel good about. And that's all consistent with what we talked about last December, our Investor Day, when we set out our medium term guidance. We still feel good with that medium term guidance.

Speaker 3

And that, as you may recall, was calling for double digit revenue growth by the end of 2026 or into 2027 with double digit ARR growth in 2026. So that all still feels good to us. Kash, if you're there, you may be on mute.

Speaker 6

No, that was it. Thank you so much. That was the question that I had. Appreciate it.

Speaker 5

Okay, good. Thanks, Josh.

Operator

We have a question from Koji Ikeda with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Speaker 3

Yes. Hey, great. Thanks guys for taking the question. A couple from me. So I am looking at your investor presentation, slide number 48.

Speaker 3

It's the maintenance to cloud migration illustrative example. I think this is a new slide, and it does give the in your prepared remarks, you did talk about 20% 6% of net new cloud AR coming from migrations. But in this slide, it talks about the effects of credits. And so I guess the question here is, is there a way to maybe qualitatively or quantitatively talk about how much higher the percentage of net new ARR would have been this quarter or maybe on a trailing 12 month basis if there were not credits given and the effect to cloud ARR? Yes.

Speaker 3

Well, thank you for digging all the way to Page 48 into the deck. It is a new slide and we produced it because we got so many questions on this. And it's hard to answer well without a little bit of a visual aid. You've got it right that the credits that are offered for existing maintenance and in some cases professional services for migration lower the ARR that we recognize in cloud during the term of the initial cloud deal, sort of average 2.5 years, some are 2, some are 3, some are longer. And then the full ARR is not fully realized or unlocked as we say internally until that first renewal.

Speaker 3

There's really not a great way for you to model it. You can certainly try and we can give you some things to think about, primarily the fact that it's 6 months as the Power Center Cloud Edition transition period. So we give folks credit for their maintenance in full for that 6 months of maintenance. That's the primary variable. And so you certainly can take a stab at modeling it.

Speaker 3

We model it internally.

Speaker 2

But it's

Speaker 3

it gets complicated in the lines of your spreads, you get pretty complex pretty fast. No, that's very helpful. Thank you for that. And follow-up here, you did talk about Clair GPT being available now on IPU, so great to see your customers have a low friction adoption way for ClearGPT. I guess the question here is that will you be able to see usage of ClearGPT through the IPU?

Speaker 3

And is there the potential for ClearGPT to be broken out as a percentage of IPUs in the future? Thank you.

Speaker 2

So the first answer is yes. Customers can consume Clear GPT through the IPO model. That's the intent, which is why I mentioned that. And the examples I gave you are the examples of customers who started using ClearGPT with the IPO model. So our goal right now is obviously drive as much adoption of the ClearGPT service because that in general obviously will be driving more of IDMC services and its usage and we feel very good about it.

Speaker 2

I think Koji, for now we have we're not looking to break that at all. I mean, we don't break any of our services in general in the IPO model. Obviously, when we come to the next any session, we can we'll keep giving you guys more information around where we're headed in that direction and more things. But right now, we don't have any plans to break the clear GPT IPU consumption from regular IPU consumption like we haven't broken for any other service.

Speaker 3

Got it. Thank you, Amit. Thanks guys for taking the questions.

Speaker 2

Sure.

Operator

Our next question is from Andrew Nowinski with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Speaker 7

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. So I want to ask a question on your cloud ARR is clearly very strong this quarter and your guidance for cloud ARR was also very impressive, which seems to be the opposite of what we saw from Azure tonight. Does that signify the durability of your cloud ARR segment and how it can continue growing at a high pace despite some of the weakness we're seeing at the hyperscalers?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Andrew, for the question. Look, I think if you step back, one of the things that we've always said, first of all, the uniqueness for Informatica is that we serve every hyperscaler platform, every data platform, every use case across the industry. So it's not necessary that whether an Azure or a GCP or an AWS or a Snowflake or a Databricks, any of their individual things directly impact us quarter in or day in, day out. Obviously, we serve a broad ecosystem. So obviously, our strength and durability is that we serve across all of the Switzerland of data, as I said.

Speaker 2

And as you heard from me, becoming the Switzerland of AI in the new world. And that's the strength of the durability of the business. And customers, the other one is that look, we're a very unique place. We've got the best of breed products. We're the only platform that brings it all together and with AI, Gen AI and that.

Speaker 2

In our industry which is massively fragmented in data management, there isn't even one that remotely comes to us. And I think that's another thing that's obviously benefiting us and not forgetting modernization. So I think all of those are playing into the momentum we are seeing.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you. And just a follow-up, maybe just a clarification, I guess, it is that you cited, I think, a new stat. You said 26% of cloud ARR came from migrations this quarter. Was that an improvement relative to last quarter?

Speaker 7

How has that changed? Thank you.

Speaker 3

It's actually not a new stat. We introduced it at our Investor Day in December and we've mentioned it on our call for the last or at least in Q1 and this is the 2nd call of the year. So back in at our Investor Day, I think that stat was 17%, maybe 18%, and it was 24% in Q4 and 26 now. So it's going up. There's quarter to quarter volatility in that and it's in any given quarter, small numbers relatively speaking.

Speaker 3

So but it continues to be very strong and that and our medium term expectations that we've also talked about is we expect the contribution from migrations over the multi year period to be 30% to maybe as much as a third of our total NAR.

Speaker 7

Got it. Thank you very

Operator

much. We have a question from pendulum bohra with JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Congrats on the quarter. Amit, I want to ask you a high level question. There seems like there is some confusion among the investor base around kind of table formats and how the adoption of table formats might or might not impact the data integration space.

Speaker 8

I know it's early and there are kind of 3 different formats at this point. But I'd love to hear if you think how do you think of it? Is it a net positive, neutral, negative to the overall integration space?

Speaker 2

Piyush Lim, back to the question. Net positive. So I think look overall for us, it has it's a net positive for us. Any time anything new has come, it creates more work to be done. New table format does not change the need that there is massive amount of data sits within a large enterprise.

Speaker 2

Look, we serve the enterprise, right, fragmented, large, complex infrastructure running around multiple databases, multiple instances of those databases with transactional data, non transaction data. Even if you have to bring into one of these tables for analytic purposes, they have to be prepared. They have to be formatted. They have to be put in the right quality. And then only some analytical work can happen whether these tables are in a warehouse or a lake.

Speaker 2

The second one is that remember, it's a constant piece of work to be done. When the core system keeps adding new data and new thing, they have to be constantly updated and prepared to bring it back to this table again for any analytic workload to be happen. And then from there, just to continue the workflow within an enterprise, data has to be taken out of these tables to pass it to the BI layer for visualization, which we also participate in. And then of course, that's just a core pipelining data integration part. Don't forget that governance and all of those things sits on top of it.

Speaker 2

So we look at this as a net positive. We already support it. We have the connectors that support it, connectors to bring data in, take data out, support the open data formats, all of those things. So that's how we look at it at a very high level pendulum. Happy to share more, but we don't see this at and we see this as a positive overall.

Speaker 8

Got it. Thank you. One follow-up for Mike. Mike, could you talk about the IPU cohort that renewed this year? How has been the adoption rate across products?

Speaker 8

And is there any difference in the expansion characteristics with that cohort of customers using IPUs versus non IPUs?

Speaker 3

Well, as time goes on, we have more and more IPU renewal experience. We only began selling IPUs, I don't know, 3.5 years ago, something like that, maybe 4. And so last year, the number of IP renewals was not a lot of deals, but it's a lot more this year. And we feel really good about our experience. We have a good handle on what utilization, both absolute levels and patterns lead to high probability of renewal and we have a pretty good handle on what the early warning indicators are in the utilization data that we can see that suggest we should get a customer success person into that account well in advance of renewal so that we can help them get value out of the software and improve the chance of renewal when the time comes.

Speaker 3

So I wouldn't say that we have a there's not a cohort difference in 2024 versus 2023 renewals that we can see. They're both in line with expectations. We think they're very good both on a relative and an absolute basis. And we're getting better at it every day as we learn more and more from the telemetry we get from the usage of IPs. The only

Speaker 2

thing I'd add to that is to what Mike was saying is that we with the bigger, broader base of IPUs out there right now that we end up renewing, The thing that we are very pleased to see is expansion of those IPUs is definitely increasing. So we see more expansion happening to customers who bought IPUs which allow which basically both cross sell, upsell and that definitely we are seeing an increase in momentum this year than last year. So that clearly more IPUs, better renewals, better usage, more expansion. That's what we are seeing as a trajectory of our business.

Speaker 3

And I'll just add, when we use the word expansion, we mean interim expansion, so not a renewal. Correct. So this is before the renewal comes up, the customer is doing great, using lots of IPs and they come back to us and ask for more. And that's a really low cost to market. It's a really high value sale for us and for them and the momentum there is super encouraging.

Speaker 8

Got it. Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Will Power with Baird. Your line is now open.

Speaker 9

Great, thanks. Amit, I wonder if you could talk about the nature of your customer conversations in this climate where there's a lot of questions around the health of software spend broadly, How they're thinking about the prioritization around data and AI spend and obviously your IDMC platform, specifically? I mean, the cloud numbers suggest that that continues to be prioritized, but just it'd be great to kind of hear your perspective on what how customers are thinking about prioritizing their spend in the current environment?

Speaker 2

Thanks for the question. I think I've separated that into 2 categories. So one is the broader customer spend environment and what they how they are prioritizing data and AI and then particularly tied to us. Look, I think without doubt, I think customers have realized that they have to spend in this area. And I've said that many before that customers are moving more towards spending offensively in transformational projects.

Speaker 2

But that doesn't mean that customers are net increasing their overall IT spend by a very wide margin. Customers are obviously looking within their spend area and saying, hey, I got to prioritize these couple of things, but then that means that I have to be find a better way to be more effective in the existing spend I have. And of course, in some cases, the prioritization also happens. Absolutely, we see that. But data and AI remains definitely a top 3 spend category along with security, in particular.

Speaker 2

The unique thing we are seeing is that, that the data layer is becoming a key enabler for Gen AI and anything to do in that area. There's tremendous mindshare for that. Everybody wants to do that. That's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. And number 2 is that in our case, what's very unique is customers don't have to look left and right.

Speaker 2

The same IDMC platform allows them to do Gen AI work and the existing 3 Gen AI digital transformation that's going on. So they're very future proof and with IPOs they can seamlessly start experimenting Gen AI workloads while they are running the current project. They don't have to make an either or decisions. And as I said, within IDMC, they can use IDMC for GenAI. We shared that Informatica World some of the demos.

Speaker 2

And now ClearGPT is also available on the IP model on the same platform to basically do next new Gen AI projects. So that definitely is a very unique thing to us that's obviously showing up in our cloud pipeline and the strong cloud ANR results.

Speaker 9

That's helpful. Thanks. And maybe if I could just ask the second one for Mike. Anything to call out with respect to linearity? I know you all indicated the macro was pretty stable in Q2, but anything to call out in June and maybe even into July versus trends you might have seen in April May?

Speaker 3

Hey, Will. Very consistent with last year, Almost on the screws, it's software our business usually isn't that predictable, but it's been again very similar to last year. We think the macro feels similar, deal cycle feels similar and pipeline build also looks very similar.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

We have a question from Howard Ma with Guggenheim. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks for taking the question. I have one for Mike and a follow-up for Amit. For Mike, I think you might have kind of already answered this in the last response, but it's on the cloud ARR upside and the raise. So by raising less than the beat, I just want to be clear, is that just a matter of being prudent or and then perhaps in reality, there's less risk in the back half and especially given migrations are likely to step up or is there potentially something more nefarious that you're seeing in the future?

Speaker 3

I would say it's prudence and derisking. There's nothing more to it than that, Howard.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. Great. I just wanted to be clear. And for Amit, I want to ask you about another type of catalogs, so not OpenTable formats, but around Databricks open sourcing their Unigy catalog. So really how impactful is this on the entire data catalog space and on Informatica specifically?

Speaker 5

So is it more of like a rising tide lifts all of those situations? And then do you expect it to increase overall awareness of the importance of beta catalogs? Or could this be a threat to Informatica? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Howard, we created the data catalog category. And I think I've always said that our catalog is a very different catalog. It's a catalog of the catalogs. When enterprises look for a catalog provider, they look at 1 metadata system of record creator, which is what we become. Data doesn't sit only in Databricks, only in Snowflake.

Speaker 2

In fact, more data sits out of Databricks and not all data will go to Databricks. We love them, we partner with them, but that's just practical reality. We support Unity, so customers can have metadata catalog within Unity. It's like everybody has to have that. I think sometimes we get confused about the same word.

Speaker 2

Like I've said, databases have to have data governance too. That's a very different governance for databases. Without that a database does not become a database. But data governance at the CDO level across an enterprise is a very different thing. So words can be very different, although they can be used very similarly.

Speaker 2

Unity is open source now. I think that's what I last I checked is what Databricks has done, which is good for the Databricks ecosystem. But we absolutely see our catalog growing very, very strongly because the use cases we serve, no other catalog is even remotely close to what we serve because it's not just a catalog. It serves enterprise grade governance, enterprise grade metadata system record on which an enterprise JNI initiative will sit and that's what we're seeing the tailwind to us.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Amit. That's excellent color. Thanks so much.

Operator

We have a question from Patrick Colville with Scotiabank. Your line is now open.

Speaker 10

Good afternoon and thank you for squeezing me in. So Mike, the disclosure you guys give on the proportion of net new ARR from migrations is super helpful. So 26% of TTM net new ARR this quarter. Last quarter, it was a tad high, it was 28%. Why would there be would it kind of kick down very slightly versus last quarter?

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks for reminding me. I misquoted that earlier in the call. I thought it was 23%. Look, it's quarter to quarter variability.

Speaker 3

You'll also notice in my script that I mentioned that the number of migration deals this quarter was about the same as what we saw last quarter, whereas last quarter it was more than double on a year over year basis. So it's quarter to quarter variability is what it is. And that's why we use a TTM number instead of a quarterly number because we don't want folks to get confused or panicked about what may be noise not signal. And as I said, we expect that contribution to or the growth of the migrations on a year over year basis in terms of contribution to NAR to grow faster than our average cloud growth rate. So it's all consistent with what we expected during the year and I would just encourage you not to get too obsessed with quarter to quarter volatility.

Speaker 3

I know it's hard, but do your best.

Speaker 10

Okay. And I guess the key message, and this is your answer to Andy's question earlier, is you expected to increase from here, right? I think you said 30% to 33% of net new ARR is expectation in the future.

Speaker 3

Yes, that's our medium term expectation of the kind of steady state through the 2026 medium term period.

Speaker 10

Okay, very clear. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5

You bet.

Operator

We're out of time for questions. So I'll pass the call back to the management team for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Well, thank you. Look, I really appreciate everybody taking the time today. As you can see, we are extremely thrilled with our solid performance in Q2 and obviously over the course of first half. First half is an important checkpoint for the year where we are. We remind everybody we run an annual business on a quarterly business, so we feel very good, which is why when we look at the second half and we look at the year, we've raised our guidance for cloud ARR, subscription ARR, non GAAP oping and unlevered free cash flow after tax.

Speaker 2

So we feel very good about the business where we sit. All the three vectors of growth, whether it's digital transformation, modernization of Gen AI continue to help increase pipeline and drive our business. We look forward to obviously Q3 and rest of the year, but I think we're in great shape and we remain confident to close out a strong year. Thank you very much.

Operator

That concludes today's call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your line.

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