NASDAQ:BLKB Blackbaud Q2 2024 Earnings Report $61.29 -0.65 (-1.05%) Closing price 06/12/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$61.29 0.00 (0.00%) As of 08:03 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Blackbaud EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.08Consensus EPS $1.04Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPS$0.49Blackbaud Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$287.29 millionExpected Revenue$289.26 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.97 millionYoY Revenue Growth+6.00%Blackbaud Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date7/30/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, July 31, 2024Conference Call Time8:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsBlackbaud's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, July 29, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Monday, August 4, 2025 at 4:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Blackbaud Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 31, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Blackbaud, Inc. Operator00:00:022nd Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Tom Barth, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:14Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on Blackbaud's Q2 2024 Earnings Call. I'm Tom Barth, the new Head of Investor Relations here at Blackbaud. I'm very excited to have recently joined the Blackbaud team. I likely know a lot of you, but I look forward to working with all of you. Speaker 100:00:32Joining me on the call today is Mike Gianoni, Blackbaud's CEO, President and Vice Chairman and Tony Bohr, Blackbaud's Executive Vice President and CFO. Mike and Tony will make prepared remarks and then we will open up the line for your questions. Please note that our comments today contain forward looking statements subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. Please refer to our most recent Form 10 ks and other SEC forms for more information on those risks. The discussion today will focus on non GAAP results. Speaker 100:01:09Please refer to our press release and the investor materials posted to our website for the full details on our financial performance, including GAAP results as well as full year guidance. We believe that a combination of both GAAP and non GAAP measures are more representative of how we internally measure our business. Unless otherwise specified, we will refer only to non GAAP financial measures on this call. Please note that non GAAP financial measures should not be considered in isolation from or as a substitute for GAAP measures. And with that, I'll turn the call over to you, Mike. Speaker 200:01:46Thank you, Tom, and good morning, everyone. Before I talk about our Q2, I'd like to highlight how far our company has come these past several years by executing on our 5 point operating plan. We've extended our position as the world's leading provider of software to power social impact through product innovation to better serve the very specific needs of non profit customers, successfully implemented key revenue initiatives to enhance the predictability of our growth, all while maintaining key attention to cost management and cash flow. As a result of this work, we've accelerated our revenue growth, significantly improved our adjusted EBITDA margin, driven sustained double digit non GAAP EPS growth and generated significant free cash flow, which we have used to fuel a material stock repurchase program that was recently expanded and replenished to $800,000,000 Our progress is also evident in our strong second quarter results. Organic revenue growth for the quarter was approximately 7%, significantly accelerating from the 2.8% growth in the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 200:03:06Total revenue growth was strong, growing 8%, excluding the negative revenue growth impact of EverFi. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 36%, up nearly 300 basis points year over year. And our non GAAP earnings per share was $1.08 up 10% year over year, which does not yet reflect the full benefit of the $200,000,000 ASR, the final piece of which will settle later this year, but does reflect a higher tax rate. These results are a direct result of our continued focus and execution against our strategy and operating plan we have detailed in previous quarters and they highlight the leverage and strength of our technology, franchise and financial model. While our record of performance is exciting, we're just getting started. Speaker 200:04:04The company is approaching another inflection point. In addition to improving our operations and go to market capabilities, we have successfully addressed and closed the book on many of the challenges the company faced over the past few years, allowing us to now focus primarily on the tremendous growth and value creation opportunities ahead in the near, mid and long term. We believe Blackbaud is a compelling investment with multiple opportunities for strong shareholder returns. 1st, as an industry leader with the most comprehensive set of purpose built and mission critical software and services, we have an inherent ability to penetrate even further into a rich market opportunity. 2nd, the leverage of our financial model allows us to continue to aggressively invest in innovation, which provides great value for our customers and enhances our ability to attract new customers. Speaker 200:05:043rd, we generate strong cash flows and are committed to disciplined, value maximizing capital returns. We believe that at current valuations, Blackbaud is undervalued and we plan to be aggressive in the repurchase of our stock to improve shareholder value. I'd like to comment on the first two drivers and Tony will speak to the 3rd as well as dive into our results and guidance. We have a rich market opportunity in front of us strengthened by our innovation. U. Speaker 200:05:37S. Charitable giving in 2023 was over $500,000,000,000 of which roughly $100,000,000,000 is donated, granted and invested through our Blackbaud platforms globally. In our social sector, we continue to primarily focus on midsized and enterprise nonprofits and as market leader, we continue to see great opportunities to land new logos as well expand our offerings to our existing customers. And we appreciate that our customers have choices too. For decades, we have enjoyed being the market leader with strong brand recognition and unmatched breadth and depth of our product capabilities, but we're not relying on the success of our past. Speaker 200:06:22We continue to invest aggressively in innovation and partner with our developer network through APIs to produce continuous product enhancements throughout our portfolio, including generative AI capabilities, which in turn enable our customers to raise more money while increasing operational efficiency, ultimately allowing them to spend more time executing on their charitable missions and less time on administrative tasks. We're a natural choice for customers and new prospects alike. The alternative for our customers is a disjointed competitive landscape where we believe no company offers the combined breadth and depth of our capabilities. These include smaller disparate point solutions that address only single aspects of the complex comprehensive technology needs of a nonprofit or larger horizontal software companies that lack depth of nonprofit specific functionality and often require complex, expensive customization and potentially additional vendors to meet customer needs. Moving to our business results. Speaker 200:07:33Our social sector is our largest revenue segment, representing 88% of total revenue in the quarter. The social sector is performing extremely well. Social sector revenue grew 8.5% year over year in the 2nd quarter, a dramatic acceleration compared to the 2% growth rate in the 2nd quarter of 2023. The social sector has proven to be very resilient as demonstrated due to the last several downturns and the COVID-nineteen pandemic. And we have great confidence in the long term trajectory of this business. Speaker 200:08:12In our corporate sector, performance has been impacted by Everfi, which despite being only 8% of total company revenues, has been a drag on growth. Everfi has unique and valuable assets, including a comprehensive catalog of content, great customer relationships and a deep talent pool. However, EverFi has faced a number of external challenges, as you know, And while we have taken decisive actions, including changes to corporate sector leadership and divestiture of non recurring components of the business, EverFi continues to be a drag on Blackbaud's overall strong performance. Accordingly, we are actively considering a range of strategic alternatives for EverFi, one of which includes a potential divestiture of the business. This work is in early stages and Everfire remains well positioned to support its customers. Speaker 200:09:14We will continue to update you as progress is made on this initiative. Before turning to Tony, I want to reinforce the meaningful progress we've made over these past several years to bolster our foundation for success. Our operating plan continues to drive top and bottom line growth as well as strong cash flows. We remain committed to repurchasing as much as 10% of our outstanding shares in 2024. Our near, mid and long term future is bright. Speaker 200:09:45I'll come back after Tony in a few minutes with some closing thoughts and then we'll take your questions. Tony? Speaker 300:09:53Thanks, Mike. I'm very pleased with our continued progress and remain excited about the road in front of us. The execution on our strategy and operating plan is visible in our positive top and bottom line financial results. Looking to those 2nd quarter results, total revenue was $287,000,000 up 6% year over year and almost 7% on an organic basis. Our social sector, which represents the lion's share of Blackbaud's revenue at 88% continues to perform particularly well with revenue growth of 8.5%. Speaker 300:10:30Within the social sector, contractual recurring revenue grew 9.5% year over year, while our transactional recurring revenue in the social sector was up 8.2%. The corporate sector, which represented approximately 12% of total revenue in the quarter declined 9.2% and continues to be weighed down by underperformance at Everfi. Recall, Everfi only represents 8% of the company's total revenues and our results reflect the divestiture of EverFi UK that was completed in March of this year. We expect headwinds at EverFi to continue. And as Mike said earlier, we're pursuing strategic alternatives for this business. Speaker 300:11:14Moving to below the revenue line, we're also pleased with the outcome of our continued cost management initiatives that drove a 2.90 basis point year over year improvement in our 2nd quarter adjusted EBITDA margin of 35.7 percent. We overachieved on our Rule of 40 goal for the quarter with a result of 42.4 percent and are well on our way to our rule of origin goal for the full year of 2024. We generated $36,000,000 of adjusted free cash flow in the 2nd quarter, taken together with the strong adjusted free cash flow generation in the Q1 of $53,000,000 our first half adjusted free cash flow is up approximately 50% compared to the first half of twenty twenty three. Our robust free cash flow gives us confidence to continue investment in a number of critical areas like product innovation and stock repurchases. In addition to our previously announced ASR, we plan to be aggressive in repurchasing our stock at the current valuations. Speaker 300:12:14As recently announced, the Board of Directors has reauthorized, expanded and replenished the company's existing stock repurchase program, raising the total capacity from $500,000,000 to $800,000,000 available for repurchases of the company's common stock. We believe there is no better use of capital than investing back into the business through product innovation and returning capital to shareholders around these valuation levels. Before I talk about annual guidance, I'd like to highlight several items for you to think about, which may help in developing your views for the remainder of the year and into 2025. Regarding revenue, in addition to the continued anticipated headwinds at EVERFI, we cannot predict whether there will be any viral charitable giving events in 2024 like the ones we benefited from in 2023. And if there aren't, this creates a more difficult compare for the second half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 300:13:102nd, as a reminder, our modernized approach to contract renewals is expected to generate sustained revenue growth for the business. In summary, we are moving our customers to a standard 3 year contract, which is new for us. And we are following industry norms by implementing annual price escalators within those multiyear contracts, which is also new for us. You can refer to our investor deck for additional information on this program. Additionally, here are some bottom line items. Speaker 300:13:41During each Q3, the company implements its annual employee wide merit increase, which causes margins and cash dip slightly. We plan to continue to maintain tight controls on costs and headcount, but there may be quarter to quarter fluctuations with the timing of attrition and hiring as we continue to invest in the business. Next, our business has some degree of seasonality with our 2nd and 4th quarters typically outperforming the 1st and third quarters. As far as quarterly pacing, as I mentioned earlier, our 3rd quarter is expected to be a difficult compare over Q3 of 2023 due to the increased levels of viral charitable giving events last year. Of course, we could see some of these events reoccur. Speaker 300:14:26Lastly, regarding our accelerated stock repurchase or ASR, this program had an initial delivery of 2 point 1,000,000 shares in March and we currently expect an incremental delivery of more than 500,000 additional shares at settlement later this year. Turning to guidance. We are reiterating our full year guidance ranges across all metrics. The core social sector continues to perform well and is tracking the plan. However, due to underperformance at EVERFI, we currently anticipate being towards the low end of our revenue guidance range. Speaker 300:15:03At the same time, we anticipate being at the high end of our adjusted EBITDA margin guidance range due to our strong profitability performance year to date and continued focus on cost management. We have a lot to be proud of in the first half of twenty twenty four. We continue to execute on our operating plan to drive strong top and bottom line results and cash flows. We're especially pleased with the performance of our core social sector and have confidence in its ability to produce profitable growth going forward. We remain focused on providing enhanced value to our customers and our shareholders. Speaker 300:15:38We also, as Mike discussed, are committed to removing the negative impact of EVERFI, which we believe will accrue value to the benefit of our shareholders. Let me turn it back to Mike for a quick comment and then we'll open up the line for questions. Speaker 200:15:53Blackbaud's revenue growth and margins have improved dramatically over the last couple of years, including this quarter. We feel that much of this success, including high single digit revenue growth in our core social sector, expanding EBITDA margin and strong free cash flow seems to be undervalued by the investment community. Therefore, we will continue to aggressively invest in the repurchase of our shares. Our proven operating plan is driving tremendous results and we believe Blackbaud's near, mid and long term future is bright. Thank you and we look forward to your questions. Speaker 200:16:29Operator? Operator00:16:32Thank you. Our first question is coming from Brian Peterson of Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:04So Mike, I'd love to get an update on how the bookings environment looks on the social side. How does the health of that business look? And as we're thinking about the lower end of the growth outlook Speaker 300:17:16for the year, is that solely related Speaker 400:17:16to what's going on with Everbuy? Just want to get an update on the health of the social side of the business. Speaker 200:17:22Yes, sure, Brian. Bookings are doing fine on the social side of the business, which is pretty much the whole company minus Everfi. New logos are good, up. Product sales productivity is up. And the revenue drag is fully related to EverFi. Speaker 200:17:42I'll just point out just said this in the prepared remarks, but Q2, the social sector is about 90% of the company. Last year's Q2 grew at 2%, this year 8.5%, massive improvement in the business. And we've got plans for Everfi, as I mentioned, to improve the business, including a potential sale. Speaker 400:18:06And maybe a good follow-up on that. Just to understand EverFi or even looking at the corporate segment in general, how could we think about the margin profile of that business relative to the social side? Anything you could share there, Tony? Speaker 300:18:21Yes. The Everfi business, first one thing, Brian, I want to clarify on the revenue outlook. The other upside for us for the back half is if we see some charitable viral events. As you guys recall and we talked about in the prepared comments, we had a we'll have a tough compare this year. We had a really good Q3 and Q4 last year. Speaker 300:18:39There were several very large charitable viral events. Our forecast right now would not incorporate any of those, but that would provide some upside if we see some of those. From EverFi overall profitability and contribution, it is very dilutive on both the growth front and on the EBITDA front. So there's a lot of work for us to do on that. We've got quite a few different plans in place. Speaker 300:19:03As Mike stated, we've made management changes already and we'll keep you guys updated as we make progress on those efforts. Speaker 500:19:11Thanks, sir. Operator00:19:14Thank you. The next question is coming from Rob Oliver of Baird. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:19:20Great. Thank you, guys. Good morning and I apologize for any background noise. Mike, my first question is for you. Just in light of the announcement regarding Everfi and the potential strategic alternative consideration, I was wondering if you could just talk to your general view about the corporate sector, the corporate part of the business. Speaker 500:19:43Is that still an important part of the business for Blackbaud? Why do you need to be in it at all? And talk about your philosophy on whether you should remain there? And then I just had a question, a follow-up for Tony as well. Thanks. Speaker 200:19:57Yes, sure, Rod. The corporate sector includes several platforms, predominantly EverFi and YourCause. YourCause business is doing really well. It's actually accretive to the company's growth. The drag part of it is EverFi. Speaker 200:20:11YourCause has a very large global footprint that's connected to global nonprofits and connects us to corporations that donate to nonprofits. So it is a part of our ecosystem. And again, that platform is doing really well, growing nicely and expanding internationally. So I do think it's an important sector. It is connected to the nonprofit sector through companies on the YourCause side. Speaker 200:20:36And again, we said this a few times, Everfi is 8% of the company, rest of the company is doing really well. Speaker 500:20:44Great. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. And then Tony, just you talked about migrating your customers towards 3 year renewals, 3 year contracts on the social side of the business, and it does seem like that's been going well. Speaker 500:20:59You can certainly see it in the growth rate. I'd be curious, I know there was a cohort and I've asked you this question before. There was a cohort of customers that took 1 year renewals and not 3. And you did call out some potential for concern that we need to get through that cohort. Where are we in that cohort now? Speaker 500:21:18If you can give us an update, that would be great. Thank you. Speaker 300:21:22Yes, Rob. Thanks for the question. We, as you know, started this program late Q1 of last year. So we have come up on a good chunk of those initial contracts where customers may have chosen a 1 year versus a multiyear agreement. That's what we were keeping an eye on. Speaker 300:21:40The good news is that our renewal rates have fared very well. Overall, our gross dollar retention number, which we now disclose publicly, you can see a held steady at 90 percent for the company. It's pulled down a little bit by Everfi. But overall, we held constant at 90% gross dollar renewal year over year, which is very positive considering all the efforts on the contractual front. Speaker 200:22:05Yes. Hey, Rob, I'll just add something too just for clarification. So this program has been going on for a while now as part of the business and includes moving customers to 3 year contracts per your question, also includes annual price escalators, which we've never had before. And these will continue when these 3 year contracts renew, we will also have annual price escalators and call it years 4, 5 and 6, if you will. The program doesn't end after the initial 3 years. Speaker 200:22:33It continues. Speaker 500:22:37Great. Thank you, guys. Thanks, Rob. Operator00:22:41Thank you. The next question is coming from Matt VanVliet of BTIG. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:22:47Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I guess as you've gotten through a lot of the summer here and headed into the beginning of the next school year, I wonder if you could just give us a little bit of color on how the K-twelve business is doing. And in particular, any areas of that portfolio that seem to be outperforming? Speaker 200:23:08Yes. Thanks, Matt. K-twelve is doing really well. We've got some very good leaders in there in sales and product and engineering, great market presence. We made an equity investment in a partner company to help with that portfolio that we announced a little while back, which is a K-twelve website marketing and admissions set of capabilities. Speaker 200:23:36This is additive to our platform. So we're doing really well there. The platform that runs the schools to fundraising, financials and the tuition management, having a great year and lots of growth opportunities. Speaker 600:23:53Okay. And then just following up on the EverFi headwind here. Could you at least try to quantify how much of the forward outlook being at the lower end is due to ongoing maybe churn or at least down sells at customers versus an underperformance on new bookings? Just curious on sort of where you're feeling Brent a bit today? Speaker 200:24:17Yes, sure thing. Again, it's 8% of the company to be clear. It's predominantly in bookings and the revenue drag on the company is EverFi. The rest of the business 90% or so in Q2 just grew 8.5%. Speaker 600:24:36All right. Thank you. Speaker 700:24:38Welcome. Thanks, Matt. Operator00:24:41Thank you. The next question is coming from Parker Lane of Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:24:47Thanks guys. I appreciate you taking the questions. Mike, you mentioned the company reaching another inflection point as a result of you putting a lot of the challenges of recent years in the rearview mirror. Can you just sort of rehash what some of those challenges, the most notable challenges were and how it sets the company up for sustainable growth going forward? Speaker 200:25:08Yes, you bet. So we put in this 5 point operating plan, which was queued up to go, then COVID showed up. So we tabled it for a while. And we've executed on a lot of parts of that plan. We've closed data centers. Speaker 200:25:22We've implemented new list prices. We've implemented a new contract renewal program. We're driving a lot of innovation. So all that's coming to fruition. That's why the base company grew from 2% to 8.5% this past quarter. Speaker 200:25:36The other things that are predominantly behind us now, we had a security incident many years ago. We had some legal issues with that. And those are pretty much all behind us now. We announced settlement with California, for example. And in fact, yesterday, we concluded the class action matter, which is now over as well. Speaker 200:25:58So that's also behind us. So those things are a distraction for management and we have those behind us. So lots of good things happening related to if you look at things like just free cash flow this year, year to date we're up 50% year over year free cash flow. The EBITDA is about 36 percent in the quarter. I mentioned revenue growth a couple of times. Speaker 200:26:20So all the key metrics are really coming together well from a growth standpoint and margin expansion. Speaker 700:26:28Yes, very helpful. And then Tony, on the viral charitable giving, I understand you have a very tough comp. Can you just talk about the visibility you have into those campaigns? I know they kind of are related to specific events that are typically unforeseeable. So how do you consider that in your guidance for the balance of the year? Speaker 300:26:47Yes. We currently, Parker, would not include any charitable viral events in our forecast. And so that's in the comment I made earlier on one of the earlier questions was if we do see some of those in the second half that would provide some upside on the revenue guide from where we currently think we may be towards the low end due to EVERFI. The visibility is tough as you can imagine because a lot of those are kind of just surprises and they could be weather related or unfortunate things like wars and but there's a lot of other types of charitable viral events, races and walks and things that may come up that we have a little more visibility into. Typically the ones that really drives things like last year were unforeseen again, events and we'll just have to wait and see what the second half brings. Speaker 300:27:36We didn't have anything meaningful in the first half at all. Speaker 700:27:41Thanks, Dan. Speaker 200:27:43The point we made though is that those represent some upside for the second half of this year, not downside. There was some upside. The drag in the revenue again is EverFi. Speaker 700:27:55Got it. Thanks Mike. You're welcome. Thanks, Mark. Operator00:28:00Thank you. The next question is coming from Kirk Materne of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:28:08Thanks guys. Appreciate the time. Mike or Tony, can you just talk about sort of the new contract cycle for you all? I mean, I think there is supposed to be roughly 30% this year and then the balances in the next couple of years. I guess, how is that going? Speaker 800:28:23Are any clients coming to you and wanting to sort of renew earlier or talk about sort of shifting over different contract terms earlier? Just give us an update on that. Speaker 200:28:32Yes, it's going well, Kirk. We've got some slides on this in the IR deck to try to explain it. It's going well. It's just core part of the company now. We'll be done with about 65% of those available by the end of this year. Speaker 200:28:47And the program is going as planned. There's been no changes pretty much both of the customers are signing up for 3 year contracts. As we get through this, we have significantly less and less 1 year contracts. We'll have some small amount of customers remaining on 1 year contracts because they're mandated to have only a 1 year contract, which is fine. But in the main, we'll be a pretty much a 3 year contract company that renews about 30% to 35% of them every year. Speaker 200:29:20So in 18 months or so, we'll start the cycle again and we'll renew those for 3 year contracts with annual price escalators. So all in all, it's going really well. Okay, great. And then Operator00:29:29Tony, sorry if you touched upon this, Speaker 800:29:29I jumped out a little bit late. But on the divestiture of EverFi's non recurring business in the UK, I assume that's a very small part of the drag. I think the bigger part of the drag in corporate is just softer bookings and retention. Is that the way to think about it? Speaker 300:29:46Correct. Yes. That was a single 1,000,000 of dollar business that we divest of in the UK and our organic numbers would adjust for that. Speaker 800:29:55Okay. That's great. I appreciate it. Thanks guys. Operator00:29:59You're welcome. Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Barth for closing comments. Speaker 100:30:05Thank you, Donna, and thank you everyone for joining us today. In August September, we will be attending a number of investor events, include several investor conferences, which are now listed on our Investor Relations site. We look forward to speaking with you soon and have a nice day. Operator00:30:23Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This concludes today's event. You may disconnect your lines and log off the webcast at this time and enjoy the rest of your day.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Q2 2024 financials: Organic revenue grew ~7% year-over-year, adjusted EBITDA margin rose to 36% (up ~300 basis points), and non-GAAP EPS climbed 10% to $1.08. Core social sector resilience: Representing 88% of revenue, social sector revenue accelerated to 8.5% growth from 2% last year with recurring contractual revenue up 9.5%. EverFi underperformance: The corporate segment, led by EverFi (~8% of revenue), remains a drag and is being evaluated for strategic alternatives, including a potential divestiture. Contract renewal overhaul: Customers are migrating to standardized three-year agreements with annual price escalators, driving a consistent 90% gross dollar retention and greater predictability. Strong cash flow and share repurchase: Adjusted free cash flow surged 50% in H1 2024, supporting an expanded $800 million stock repurchase program targeting up to 10% of outstanding shares. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallBlackbaud Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Blackbaud Earnings HeadlinesBlackbaud's 13th Annual YourCause CSR Industry Review Shows Stable Employee Giving and Volunteering Trends in 2024June 11 at 9:30 AM | prnewswire.comBlackbaud Equips Nonprofits with Cutting-Edge AI Skills and Unveils Vision for Agentic AI at bbdevdays Developer's ConferenceJune 4, 2025 | prnewswire.comElon’s BIGGEST warning yet?Tesla's About to Prove Everyone Wrong... Again Back in 2018, when Jeff Brown told everyone to buy Tesla… The "experts" said Elon was finished and Tesla was headed for bankruptcy. 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The company offers fundraising and engagement solutions, such as Blackbaud Raiser's Edge NXT, Blackbaud CRM, Blackbaud eTapestry, Blackbaud Luminate Online, Blackbaud TeamRaiser, JustGiving, Blackbaud Fundraiser Performance Management, Blackbaud Guided Fundraising, and Blackbaud Altru; and financial management solutions comprising Blackbaud Financial Edge NXT, Blackbaud Tuition Management, and Blackbaud Financial Aid and Billing Management. It also provides grant and award management solutions, consisting of Blackbaud Grantmaking and Blackbaud Award Management; education solutions, such as Blackbaud Student Information System, Blackbaud Learning Management System, Blackbaud Enrollment Management System, and Blackbaud School Website System; social responsibility solutions, which includes YourCause GrantsConnect and YourCause CSRconnect, and EVERFI; Blackbaud Merchant Services and Blackbaud Purchase Cards payment services; and Blackbaud's Intelligence for Good solutions, as well as Data Health, Insights, and Performance solutions and services. The company sells its solutions and related services through its direct sales force. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Blackbaud, Inc. Operator00:00:022nd Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Tom Barth, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:14Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on Blackbaud's Q2 2024 Earnings Call. I'm Tom Barth, the new Head of Investor Relations here at Blackbaud. I'm very excited to have recently joined the Blackbaud team. I likely know a lot of you, but I look forward to working with all of you. Speaker 100:00:32Joining me on the call today is Mike Gianoni, Blackbaud's CEO, President and Vice Chairman and Tony Bohr, Blackbaud's Executive Vice President and CFO. Mike and Tony will make prepared remarks and then we will open up the line for your questions. Please note that our comments today contain forward looking statements subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. Please refer to our most recent Form 10 ks and other SEC forms for more information on those risks. The discussion today will focus on non GAAP results. Speaker 100:01:09Please refer to our press release and the investor materials posted to our website for the full details on our financial performance, including GAAP results as well as full year guidance. We believe that a combination of both GAAP and non GAAP measures are more representative of how we internally measure our business. Unless otherwise specified, we will refer only to non GAAP financial measures on this call. Please note that non GAAP financial measures should not be considered in isolation from or as a substitute for GAAP measures. And with that, I'll turn the call over to you, Mike. Speaker 200:01:46Thank you, Tom, and good morning, everyone. Before I talk about our Q2, I'd like to highlight how far our company has come these past several years by executing on our 5 point operating plan. We've extended our position as the world's leading provider of software to power social impact through product innovation to better serve the very specific needs of non profit customers, successfully implemented key revenue initiatives to enhance the predictability of our growth, all while maintaining key attention to cost management and cash flow. As a result of this work, we've accelerated our revenue growth, significantly improved our adjusted EBITDA margin, driven sustained double digit non GAAP EPS growth and generated significant free cash flow, which we have used to fuel a material stock repurchase program that was recently expanded and replenished to $800,000,000 Our progress is also evident in our strong second quarter results. Organic revenue growth for the quarter was approximately 7%, significantly accelerating from the 2.8% growth in the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 200:03:06Total revenue growth was strong, growing 8%, excluding the negative revenue growth impact of EverFi. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 36%, up nearly 300 basis points year over year. And our non GAAP earnings per share was $1.08 up 10% year over year, which does not yet reflect the full benefit of the $200,000,000 ASR, the final piece of which will settle later this year, but does reflect a higher tax rate. These results are a direct result of our continued focus and execution against our strategy and operating plan we have detailed in previous quarters and they highlight the leverage and strength of our technology, franchise and financial model. While our record of performance is exciting, we're just getting started. Speaker 200:04:04The company is approaching another inflection point. In addition to improving our operations and go to market capabilities, we have successfully addressed and closed the book on many of the challenges the company faced over the past few years, allowing us to now focus primarily on the tremendous growth and value creation opportunities ahead in the near, mid and long term. We believe Blackbaud is a compelling investment with multiple opportunities for strong shareholder returns. 1st, as an industry leader with the most comprehensive set of purpose built and mission critical software and services, we have an inherent ability to penetrate even further into a rich market opportunity. 2nd, the leverage of our financial model allows us to continue to aggressively invest in innovation, which provides great value for our customers and enhances our ability to attract new customers. Speaker 200:05:043rd, we generate strong cash flows and are committed to disciplined, value maximizing capital returns. We believe that at current valuations, Blackbaud is undervalued and we plan to be aggressive in the repurchase of our stock to improve shareholder value. I'd like to comment on the first two drivers and Tony will speak to the 3rd as well as dive into our results and guidance. We have a rich market opportunity in front of us strengthened by our innovation. U. Speaker 200:05:37S. Charitable giving in 2023 was over $500,000,000,000 of which roughly $100,000,000,000 is donated, granted and invested through our Blackbaud platforms globally. In our social sector, we continue to primarily focus on midsized and enterprise nonprofits and as market leader, we continue to see great opportunities to land new logos as well expand our offerings to our existing customers. And we appreciate that our customers have choices too. For decades, we have enjoyed being the market leader with strong brand recognition and unmatched breadth and depth of our product capabilities, but we're not relying on the success of our past. Speaker 200:06:22We continue to invest aggressively in innovation and partner with our developer network through APIs to produce continuous product enhancements throughout our portfolio, including generative AI capabilities, which in turn enable our customers to raise more money while increasing operational efficiency, ultimately allowing them to spend more time executing on their charitable missions and less time on administrative tasks. We're a natural choice for customers and new prospects alike. The alternative for our customers is a disjointed competitive landscape where we believe no company offers the combined breadth and depth of our capabilities. These include smaller disparate point solutions that address only single aspects of the complex comprehensive technology needs of a nonprofit or larger horizontal software companies that lack depth of nonprofit specific functionality and often require complex, expensive customization and potentially additional vendors to meet customer needs. Moving to our business results. Speaker 200:07:33Our social sector is our largest revenue segment, representing 88% of total revenue in the quarter. The social sector is performing extremely well. Social sector revenue grew 8.5% year over year in the 2nd quarter, a dramatic acceleration compared to the 2% growth rate in the 2nd quarter of 2023. The social sector has proven to be very resilient as demonstrated due to the last several downturns and the COVID-nineteen pandemic. And we have great confidence in the long term trajectory of this business. Speaker 200:08:12In our corporate sector, performance has been impacted by Everfi, which despite being only 8% of total company revenues, has been a drag on growth. Everfi has unique and valuable assets, including a comprehensive catalog of content, great customer relationships and a deep talent pool. However, EverFi has faced a number of external challenges, as you know, And while we have taken decisive actions, including changes to corporate sector leadership and divestiture of non recurring components of the business, EverFi continues to be a drag on Blackbaud's overall strong performance. Accordingly, we are actively considering a range of strategic alternatives for EverFi, one of which includes a potential divestiture of the business. This work is in early stages and Everfire remains well positioned to support its customers. Speaker 200:09:14We will continue to update you as progress is made on this initiative. Before turning to Tony, I want to reinforce the meaningful progress we've made over these past several years to bolster our foundation for success. Our operating plan continues to drive top and bottom line growth as well as strong cash flows. We remain committed to repurchasing as much as 10% of our outstanding shares in 2024. Our near, mid and long term future is bright. Speaker 200:09:45I'll come back after Tony in a few minutes with some closing thoughts and then we'll take your questions. Tony? Speaker 300:09:53Thanks, Mike. I'm very pleased with our continued progress and remain excited about the road in front of us. The execution on our strategy and operating plan is visible in our positive top and bottom line financial results. Looking to those 2nd quarter results, total revenue was $287,000,000 up 6% year over year and almost 7% on an organic basis. Our social sector, which represents the lion's share of Blackbaud's revenue at 88% continues to perform particularly well with revenue growth of 8.5%. Speaker 300:10:30Within the social sector, contractual recurring revenue grew 9.5% year over year, while our transactional recurring revenue in the social sector was up 8.2%. The corporate sector, which represented approximately 12% of total revenue in the quarter declined 9.2% and continues to be weighed down by underperformance at Everfi. Recall, Everfi only represents 8% of the company's total revenues and our results reflect the divestiture of EverFi UK that was completed in March of this year. We expect headwinds at EverFi to continue. And as Mike said earlier, we're pursuing strategic alternatives for this business. Speaker 300:11:14Moving to below the revenue line, we're also pleased with the outcome of our continued cost management initiatives that drove a 2.90 basis point year over year improvement in our 2nd quarter adjusted EBITDA margin of 35.7 percent. We overachieved on our Rule of 40 goal for the quarter with a result of 42.4 percent and are well on our way to our rule of origin goal for the full year of 2024. We generated $36,000,000 of adjusted free cash flow in the 2nd quarter, taken together with the strong adjusted free cash flow generation in the Q1 of $53,000,000 our first half adjusted free cash flow is up approximately 50% compared to the first half of twenty twenty three. Our robust free cash flow gives us confidence to continue investment in a number of critical areas like product innovation and stock repurchases. In addition to our previously announced ASR, we plan to be aggressive in repurchasing our stock at the current valuations. Speaker 300:12:14As recently announced, the Board of Directors has reauthorized, expanded and replenished the company's existing stock repurchase program, raising the total capacity from $500,000,000 to $800,000,000 available for repurchases of the company's common stock. We believe there is no better use of capital than investing back into the business through product innovation and returning capital to shareholders around these valuation levels. Before I talk about annual guidance, I'd like to highlight several items for you to think about, which may help in developing your views for the remainder of the year and into 2025. Regarding revenue, in addition to the continued anticipated headwinds at EVERFI, we cannot predict whether there will be any viral charitable giving events in 2024 like the ones we benefited from in 2023. And if there aren't, this creates a more difficult compare for the second half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 300:13:102nd, as a reminder, our modernized approach to contract renewals is expected to generate sustained revenue growth for the business. In summary, we are moving our customers to a standard 3 year contract, which is new for us. And we are following industry norms by implementing annual price escalators within those multiyear contracts, which is also new for us. You can refer to our investor deck for additional information on this program. Additionally, here are some bottom line items. Speaker 300:13:41During each Q3, the company implements its annual employee wide merit increase, which causes margins and cash dip slightly. We plan to continue to maintain tight controls on costs and headcount, but there may be quarter to quarter fluctuations with the timing of attrition and hiring as we continue to invest in the business. Next, our business has some degree of seasonality with our 2nd and 4th quarters typically outperforming the 1st and third quarters. As far as quarterly pacing, as I mentioned earlier, our 3rd quarter is expected to be a difficult compare over Q3 of 2023 due to the increased levels of viral charitable giving events last year. Of course, we could see some of these events reoccur. Speaker 300:14:26Lastly, regarding our accelerated stock repurchase or ASR, this program had an initial delivery of 2 point 1,000,000 shares in March and we currently expect an incremental delivery of more than 500,000 additional shares at settlement later this year. Turning to guidance. We are reiterating our full year guidance ranges across all metrics. The core social sector continues to perform well and is tracking the plan. However, due to underperformance at EVERFI, we currently anticipate being towards the low end of our revenue guidance range. Speaker 300:15:03At the same time, we anticipate being at the high end of our adjusted EBITDA margin guidance range due to our strong profitability performance year to date and continued focus on cost management. We have a lot to be proud of in the first half of twenty twenty four. We continue to execute on our operating plan to drive strong top and bottom line results and cash flows. We're especially pleased with the performance of our core social sector and have confidence in its ability to produce profitable growth going forward. We remain focused on providing enhanced value to our customers and our shareholders. Speaker 300:15:38We also, as Mike discussed, are committed to removing the negative impact of EVERFI, which we believe will accrue value to the benefit of our shareholders. Let me turn it back to Mike for a quick comment and then we'll open up the line for questions. Speaker 200:15:53Blackbaud's revenue growth and margins have improved dramatically over the last couple of years, including this quarter. We feel that much of this success, including high single digit revenue growth in our core social sector, expanding EBITDA margin and strong free cash flow seems to be undervalued by the investment community. Therefore, we will continue to aggressively invest in the repurchase of our shares. Our proven operating plan is driving tremendous results and we believe Blackbaud's near, mid and long term future is bright. Thank you and we look forward to your questions. Speaker 200:16:29Operator? Operator00:16:32Thank you. Our first question is coming from Brian Peterson of Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:04So Mike, I'd love to get an update on how the bookings environment looks on the social side. How does the health of that business look? And as we're thinking about the lower end of the growth outlook Speaker 300:17:16for the year, is that solely related Speaker 400:17:16to what's going on with Everbuy? Just want to get an update on the health of the social side of the business. Speaker 200:17:22Yes, sure, Brian. Bookings are doing fine on the social side of the business, which is pretty much the whole company minus Everfi. New logos are good, up. Product sales productivity is up. And the revenue drag is fully related to EverFi. Speaker 200:17:42I'll just point out just said this in the prepared remarks, but Q2, the social sector is about 90% of the company. Last year's Q2 grew at 2%, this year 8.5%, massive improvement in the business. And we've got plans for Everfi, as I mentioned, to improve the business, including a potential sale. Speaker 400:18:06And maybe a good follow-up on that. Just to understand EverFi or even looking at the corporate segment in general, how could we think about the margin profile of that business relative to the social side? Anything you could share there, Tony? Speaker 300:18:21Yes. The Everfi business, first one thing, Brian, I want to clarify on the revenue outlook. The other upside for us for the back half is if we see some charitable viral events. As you guys recall and we talked about in the prepared comments, we had a we'll have a tough compare this year. We had a really good Q3 and Q4 last year. Speaker 300:18:39There were several very large charitable viral events. Our forecast right now would not incorporate any of those, but that would provide some upside if we see some of those. From EverFi overall profitability and contribution, it is very dilutive on both the growth front and on the EBITDA front. So there's a lot of work for us to do on that. We've got quite a few different plans in place. Speaker 300:19:03As Mike stated, we've made management changes already and we'll keep you guys updated as we make progress on those efforts. Speaker 500:19:11Thanks, sir. Operator00:19:14Thank you. The next question is coming from Rob Oliver of Baird. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:19:20Great. Thank you, guys. Good morning and I apologize for any background noise. Mike, my first question is for you. Just in light of the announcement regarding Everfi and the potential strategic alternative consideration, I was wondering if you could just talk to your general view about the corporate sector, the corporate part of the business. Speaker 500:19:43Is that still an important part of the business for Blackbaud? Why do you need to be in it at all? And talk about your philosophy on whether you should remain there? And then I just had a question, a follow-up for Tony as well. Thanks. Speaker 200:19:57Yes, sure, Rod. The corporate sector includes several platforms, predominantly EverFi and YourCause. YourCause business is doing really well. It's actually accretive to the company's growth. The drag part of it is EverFi. Speaker 200:20:11YourCause has a very large global footprint that's connected to global nonprofits and connects us to corporations that donate to nonprofits. So it is a part of our ecosystem. And again, that platform is doing really well, growing nicely and expanding internationally. So I do think it's an important sector. It is connected to the nonprofit sector through companies on the YourCause side. Speaker 200:20:36And again, we said this a few times, Everfi is 8% of the company, rest of the company is doing really well. Speaker 500:20:44Great. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. And then Tony, just you talked about migrating your customers towards 3 year renewals, 3 year contracts on the social side of the business, and it does seem like that's been going well. Speaker 500:20:59You can certainly see it in the growth rate. I'd be curious, I know there was a cohort and I've asked you this question before. There was a cohort of customers that took 1 year renewals and not 3. And you did call out some potential for concern that we need to get through that cohort. Where are we in that cohort now? Speaker 500:21:18If you can give us an update, that would be great. Thank you. Speaker 300:21:22Yes, Rob. Thanks for the question. We, as you know, started this program late Q1 of last year. So we have come up on a good chunk of those initial contracts where customers may have chosen a 1 year versus a multiyear agreement. That's what we were keeping an eye on. Speaker 300:21:40The good news is that our renewal rates have fared very well. Overall, our gross dollar retention number, which we now disclose publicly, you can see a held steady at 90 percent for the company. It's pulled down a little bit by Everfi. But overall, we held constant at 90% gross dollar renewal year over year, which is very positive considering all the efforts on the contractual front. Speaker 200:22:05Yes. Hey, Rob, I'll just add something too just for clarification. So this program has been going on for a while now as part of the business and includes moving customers to 3 year contracts per your question, also includes annual price escalators, which we've never had before. And these will continue when these 3 year contracts renew, we will also have annual price escalators and call it years 4, 5 and 6, if you will. The program doesn't end after the initial 3 years. Speaker 200:22:33It continues. Speaker 500:22:37Great. Thank you, guys. Thanks, Rob. Operator00:22:41Thank you. The next question is coming from Matt VanVliet of BTIG. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:22:47Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I guess as you've gotten through a lot of the summer here and headed into the beginning of the next school year, I wonder if you could just give us a little bit of color on how the K-twelve business is doing. And in particular, any areas of that portfolio that seem to be outperforming? Speaker 200:23:08Yes. Thanks, Matt. K-twelve is doing really well. We've got some very good leaders in there in sales and product and engineering, great market presence. We made an equity investment in a partner company to help with that portfolio that we announced a little while back, which is a K-twelve website marketing and admissions set of capabilities. Speaker 200:23:36This is additive to our platform. So we're doing really well there. The platform that runs the schools to fundraising, financials and the tuition management, having a great year and lots of growth opportunities. Speaker 600:23:53Okay. And then just following up on the EverFi headwind here. Could you at least try to quantify how much of the forward outlook being at the lower end is due to ongoing maybe churn or at least down sells at customers versus an underperformance on new bookings? Just curious on sort of where you're feeling Brent a bit today? Speaker 200:24:17Yes, sure thing. Again, it's 8% of the company to be clear. It's predominantly in bookings and the revenue drag on the company is EverFi. The rest of the business 90% or so in Q2 just grew 8.5%. Speaker 600:24:36All right. Thank you. Speaker 700:24:38Welcome. Thanks, Matt. Operator00:24:41Thank you. The next question is coming from Parker Lane of Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:24:47Thanks guys. I appreciate you taking the questions. Mike, you mentioned the company reaching another inflection point as a result of you putting a lot of the challenges of recent years in the rearview mirror. Can you just sort of rehash what some of those challenges, the most notable challenges were and how it sets the company up for sustainable growth going forward? Speaker 200:25:08Yes, you bet. So we put in this 5 point operating plan, which was queued up to go, then COVID showed up. So we tabled it for a while. And we've executed on a lot of parts of that plan. We've closed data centers. Speaker 200:25:22We've implemented new list prices. We've implemented a new contract renewal program. We're driving a lot of innovation. So all that's coming to fruition. That's why the base company grew from 2% to 8.5% this past quarter. Speaker 200:25:36The other things that are predominantly behind us now, we had a security incident many years ago. We had some legal issues with that. And those are pretty much all behind us now. We announced settlement with California, for example. And in fact, yesterday, we concluded the class action matter, which is now over as well. Speaker 200:25:58So that's also behind us. So those things are a distraction for management and we have those behind us. So lots of good things happening related to if you look at things like just free cash flow this year, year to date we're up 50% year over year free cash flow. The EBITDA is about 36 percent in the quarter. I mentioned revenue growth a couple of times. Speaker 200:26:20So all the key metrics are really coming together well from a growth standpoint and margin expansion. Speaker 700:26:28Yes, very helpful. And then Tony, on the viral charitable giving, I understand you have a very tough comp. Can you just talk about the visibility you have into those campaigns? I know they kind of are related to specific events that are typically unforeseeable. So how do you consider that in your guidance for the balance of the year? Speaker 300:26:47Yes. We currently, Parker, would not include any charitable viral events in our forecast. And so that's in the comment I made earlier on one of the earlier questions was if we do see some of those in the second half that would provide some upside on the revenue guide from where we currently think we may be towards the low end due to EVERFI. The visibility is tough as you can imagine because a lot of those are kind of just surprises and they could be weather related or unfortunate things like wars and but there's a lot of other types of charitable viral events, races and walks and things that may come up that we have a little more visibility into. Typically the ones that really drives things like last year were unforeseen again, events and we'll just have to wait and see what the second half brings. Speaker 300:27:36We didn't have anything meaningful in the first half at all. Speaker 700:27:41Thanks, Dan. Speaker 200:27:43The point we made though is that those represent some upside for the second half of this year, not downside. There was some upside. The drag in the revenue again is EverFi. Speaker 700:27:55Got it. Thanks Mike. You're welcome. Thanks, Mark. Operator00:28:00Thank you. The next question is coming from Kirk Materne of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:28:08Thanks guys. Appreciate the time. Mike or Tony, can you just talk about sort of the new contract cycle for you all? I mean, I think there is supposed to be roughly 30% this year and then the balances in the next couple of years. I guess, how is that going? Speaker 800:28:23Are any clients coming to you and wanting to sort of renew earlier or talk about sort of shifting over different contract terms earlier? Just give us an update on that. Speaker 200:28:32Yes, it's going well, Kirk. We've got some slides on this in the IR deck to try to explain it. It's going well. It's just core part of the company now. We'll be done with about 65% of those available by the end of this year. Speaker 200:28:47And the program is going as planned. There's been no changes pretty much both of the customers are signing up for 3 year contracts. As we get through this, we have significantly less and less 1 year contracts. We'll have some small amount of customers remaining on 1 year contracts because they're mandated to have only a 1 year contract, which is fine. But in the main, we'll be a pretty much a 3 year contract company that renews about 30% to 35% of them every year. Speaker 200:29:20So in 18 months or so, we'll start the cycle again and we'll renew those for 3 year contracts with annual price escalators. So all in all, it's going really well. Okay, great. And then Operator00:29:29Tony, sorry if you touched upon this, Speaker 800:29:29I jumped out a little bit late. But on the divestiture of EverFi's non recurring business in the UK, I assume that's a very small part of the drag. I think the bigger part of the drag in corporate is just softer bookings and retention. Is that the way to think about it? Speaker 300:29:46Correct. Yes. That was a single 1,000,000 of dollar business that we divest of in the UK and our organic numbers would adjust for that. Speaker 800:29:55Okay. That's great. I appreciate it. Thanks guys. Operator00:29:59You're welcome. Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Barth for closing comments. Speaker 100:30:05Thank you, Donna, and thank you everyone for joining us today. In August September, we will be attending a number of investor events, include several investor conferences, which are now listed on our Investor Relations site. We look forward to speaking with you soon and have a nice day. Operator00:30:23Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This concludes today's event. You may disconnect your lines and log off the webcast at this time and enjoy the rest of your day.Read morePowered by