NYSE:AN AutoNation Q2 2024 Earnings Report $181.96 -5.34 (-2.85%) Closing price 05/21/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$181.91 -0.05 (-0.03%) As of 05/21/2025 07:02 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast AutoNation EPS ResultsActual EPS$3.99Consensus EPS $4.31Beat/MissMissed by -$0.32One Year Ago EPS$6.29AutoNation Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$6.48 billionExpected Revenue$6.72 billionBeat/MissMissed by -$236.81 millionYoY Revenue Growth-5.90%AutoNation Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date7/31/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, July 31, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsAutoNation's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 30, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by AutoNation Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 31, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning. Thank you for attending the AutoNation 2Q24 Earnings Call. My name is Elisa, and I will be your moderator today. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I would now like to pass the call to our host, Derek Fiebick with AutoNation. Operator00:00:20Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:23Thank you, Alyssa, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to AutoNation's Q2 2024 Conference Call. Leading our call today will be Mike Manley, our Chief Executive Officer and Tom Sloczek, our Chief Financial Officer. Following their remarks, we'll open up the call to questions. Before beginning, I'd like to remind you that certain statements and information on this call, including any statements regarding our anticipated financial results and objectives, constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Speaker 100:00:56Such forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks that may cause our actual results or performance to differ materially from such forward looking statements. Additional discussions of factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially are contained in our press release issued today and in our filings with the SEC. Certain non GAAP measures, as defined under SEC rules, will be discussed on this call. Reconciliations are provided in our materials and on our website located at investors. Autonation.com. Speaker 100:01:29With that, I'll turn the Speaker 200:01:30call over to Mike. Speaker 300:01:31Thank you, Derek, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. As I mentioned in today's press release, the CDK outage, March 4 was developing into a very positive quarter for automation. April May new unit sales were up about 5%. Used unit sales were flat or accelerating in June. Speaker 300:01:51After sales growth was consistent with 1st quarter trends and margin trends in many of our business lines are moving positively. And I was certainly encouraged with where the quarter was sitting when the CDK outage hit us on June 19. Now as usual, Tom is going to take you through more details of our performance during the quarter in his section, but I did want to give you a summary of the scope of the impact on our business. Before I do that, I think it's important to state that as of the last week of July, the incident with regard to its operational impact on our business is now behind us. Now to give you a sense of scope, virtually all of our business processes including CRM, deal processing, financial services, inventory management, after sales systems and accounting are tied in one form and another to the CDK background and therefore were all immediately impacted. Speaker 300:02:37Now naturally we worked with each of our business units to put in place interim solutions, some of which were off the shelf and some of which had to be developed. Now each solution based upon the discipline involved returned our business to some level of functionality and productivity, but the work around processes were in large part manual. For example, we manually processed close to 60,000 repair orders during the outage. And you can imagine this slowed things down tremendously. Now main functionality of CDK was bought back online in late June. Speaker 300:03:09However, there were some ancillary integrations which have only recently been restored. Now as a direct outcome, our 2nd quarter results were adversely impacted by approximately 1 point $5 per share, which includes the lost revenue and margins during the outage as well as the impact of certain onetime costs incurred, including a pay guarantee for our variable compensation based associates. Now notwithstanding the aforementioned, there were a number of really encouraging areas in our performance in the Q2, which I'm going to highlight. Let me start with new vehicles. You can see that margins are stabilizing and following 2 quarters of sequential margin decline of more than $300 per quarter. Speaker 300:03:492nd quarter margins declined to $3,108 or $2.20 during the period and were basically flat May to June. Now although for the quarter new vehicle sales were down 2% even with the outage, we grew units of our import brands by 6%. In used vehicles, total used vehicles for the quarter decreased by 8% from a year ago on a same store basis and total units were 5% lower and that benefited from the growth of our AN USA footprint. And to date, as you know, we've opened 4 new AN USA stores. Used car demand remains relatively strong and certainly through the quarter, although demand by price point changed to move into lower price bands, but total demand volume is healthy. Speaker 300:04:36Our pace of used car inventory sourcing slowed significantly in the second half of June, now improving and I expect it to return to normal levels of used car inventory in the second half of August. Our PVRs continued to recover in the quarter, increasing by $165 on a sequential basis. And you'll recall that earlier this year, we discussed the actions our operating teams are taking to better align inventory and increase turns. And I'm pleased to note the continued recovery in margins, which is not coming at the expense of the slowing turn rate. Customer Financial Services or CFS continued to deliver in the quarter. Speaker 300:05:13We did see some moderation in products sold per unit sale, which dropped approximately 10% from last year. Now we progressively took actions to address this and I'm saying we've seen an increase throughout July back to what we consider normalized levels. Now as part of our CFS strategy, we remain focused on driving penetration of automation finance. ANF originated over $240,000,000 of loans during the quarter, almost 4 times higher than the Q2 of 2023 and the portfolio balance now exceeds $700,000,000 Now for our shareholders, this means a shift to a model that on a lifetime basis is 2.5x to 3x more profitable than now with the traditional third party finance offering. While this focus can have a short term adverse impact on CFS PVRs and cash flows, we're pleased with the enhanced long term value creation by the more regular contact with our customers that this model naturally provides. Speaker 300:06:12After sales delivered another good quarter tracking around 10% growth for the quarter through May, we ended basically flat as a result of the loss June. During the quarter, we improved service effectiveness and delivered a positive mix shift, which enabled a year over year 60 basis point increase in gross margin to 48% for the quarter. Now this business represents close to half of our profitability and is a key part of our continued engagement with our customers. We continue to focus on technician development, productivity and retention as well as capacity utilization to support the continued growth of the business, which we expect to deliver increasingly in the second half. Importantly, our total technician workforce increased 3% from a year ago and this was achieved in a labor market that remains very competitive. Speaker 300:07:03We also joined forces with the U. S. Army to create job opportunities for soldiers through the Partnership Fuel Success program. The strength of our balance sheet and cash generation continue to give us optionality for capital deployment. As planned, we're spending more modestly on CapEx and to date through the Q2, we purchased $350,000,000 of AutoNation shares at an average price of $1.59 per share. Speaker 300:07:27This reduced share count by more than 5% since the beginning of the year. Our leverage remains within our targeted range. Inventory levels in new vehicles are almost fully restored to pre COVID levels, and I'm happy with where we're positioned in our new vehicle business. And as such, I'm expecting to recover market share in the second half of the year. As you know, while new vehicle sales generate a small portion of our gross profit around 16 percent, they start the flywheel for all our other businesses, something which we're acutely focused on. Speaker 300:07:57We acquire trade in to sell as used. We attach product penetration and finance offerings and it leads to after sales business. So these continued strong trends for new vehicle sales are encouraging for that. And with that, I'm going to hand over to you, Tom. Speaker 400:08:10Okay. Thanks, Mike. I'm turning to Slide 4 to discuss our 2nd quarter P and L. Our total revenue of $6,480,000 was nearly identical to the Q1 despite the outage. And as Mike mentioned, we were tracking above expectations across the enterprise when the outage hit during one of the highest volume periods of the quarter. Speaker 400:08:31When you combine this with the expected year over year normalization in vehicle selling prices, our revenue decreased 6% from 2023. Gross profit of $1,200,000,000 was 18% of revenue and decreased 3% on a sequential basis, reflecting the productivity drag from the outage. Mike mentioned the encouraging margin rate trends. Gross margin rates improved 60 basis points from the Q1 in both the used and after sales businesses and the rate of TBR moderation in the new business, as Mike mentioned, was also encouraging. Adjusted SG and A was relatively stable at 782,000,000 dollars compared to $786,000,000 in the Q1. Speaker 400:09:12This results in adjusted operating income of $319,000,000 just under 5% of revenue. Now below the operating line, our 2nd quarter results were impacted by higher interest expense mainly for floorplan debt and benefited from lower income tax expense. The 2nd quarter floorplan interest expense of $54,000,000 was up $21,000,000 from a year ago, as expected, which is a reflection mostly of higher inventory levels and to a lesser degree, higher interest rates. As a reminder, we reflect floor plan assistance received from OEMs in gross margin and assistance was down slightly from the Q2 last year. And so net of OEM incentives, the new vehicle floor plan expense changed from benefit of $3,000,000 in 2023 with cost of $21,000,000 in 2024. Speaker 400:10:05Our 2nd quarter adjusted net income excludes the $43,000,000 of direct costs associated with the CDK outage and last year's Q2 adjusted net income excludes $16,000,000 of losses from hailstorms and natural catastrophes. All in, this resulted in adjusted net income of $163,000,000 compared to $285,000,000 a year ago. Mike talked about our share repurchase activity. This helped to partially offset the EPS effects of the net income decline. Total shares repurchased over the past year have decreased our average outstanding share count by 10% to 40,700,000 shares in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 400:10:45This was a benefit for our adjusted EPS, which was $3.99 for the quarter. Let me move to Slide 5 for some more color on new vehicle performance for the quarter. New vehicle unit volumes were tracking at approximately 5% growth through May, but ended the quarter down 2%, including an increase of 6% for imports, a 5% decrease in domestics and a 10% decline in premiumluxury. The outage disrupted vehicle sales, inventory and customer relationship management functions in June. We are encouraged by customer demand indications, vehicle supply and manufacturing support, including manufacturing incentives such as low interest financing and rebates. Speaker 400:11:28On average, new vehicle unit revenue decreased 3% in the quarter, while new vehicle unit costs increased modestly resulting in moderation of new vehicle PBR. As Mike mentioned, we are encouraged with the stabilization of our new PBRs and the $2.20 sequential decline is more modest on an absolute and relative basis than we've experienced over the last several quarters. The new vehicle supply dynamics have significantly improved. New vehicle inventory levels stood at 47,000 units at the end of June. This represents 67 days of sales, up from 44 days at the end of the Q1. Speaker 400:12:07Excluding the impact of the outage, we estimate that we would have been closer to 50 days sales at the end of the second quarter, which continues to track below the mid-sixty day levels pre COVID. Turning to Slide 6, used vehicles, we were tracking at flat year over year volumes through May, but ended with a unit volume decrease of 8% same store from a year ago and 5% decline on a total store basis. This reflects the outage disruption on our vehicle sales, inventory and CRM functions. Average used vehicle selling prices moderated year over year by 5%, reflecting the shift to lower priced used vehicles. Demand for those lower priced used vehicles remains resilient. Speaker 400:12:55Total unit sales of vehicles priced under 20,000 increased by 4% from a year ago. Mid price vehicles were down 5% and vehicles over 40,000 were down more significantly. With the OEMs taking actions to improve the affordability of new vehicles, there has been some shift away from higher priced used vehicles. Mike discussed the encouraging outcomes in used vehicle PBRs in the quarter, reflecting the actions we took to better align used vehicle inventory with market demand and to optimize pricing. While unit profitability was down year over year as a result of the mix shift to lower priced used vehicles, these actions helped to increase unit profitability by $165 on a sequential basis. Speaker 400:13:39Used vehicle inventory levels are at 30,000 units at the end of June, down 15% from a year ago. This represents 34 day sales, up from 31 day sales at the end of the Q1. Excluding the impact of the outage, we estimate that we would have been closer to mid-20s day sales, which is less than we would prefer. Used vehicle sales and profitability continue to be a big area of focus for us as we emphasize effective sourcing, pricing and speed while optimizing customer satisfaction. I'm on now Slide 7, Customer Financial Services. Speaker 400:14:13The outage not only reduced new and used vehicle sales, but further limited our ability to attach CFS product and finance offerings to the vehicles we did sell, as Mike mentioned. So a little bit of a double whammy in an environment where high interest rates are already consuming more of our customers' monthly budgets. However, our outage workarounds were very effective in this area. We were able to restore our product attachment rates and finance penetration and kept CFS unit profitability within 3% of the Q1 rates. We are encouraged by our continued strong performance in this portion of the business. Speaker 400:14:49We continue to grow AAN Finance business, as Mike mentioned, which did serve to shift about $85 away from CVS CFS PBRs in the quarter. This is done with purpose, however, as the profitability to AutoNation over the course of an AutoNation finance loan is expected to be more than 2.5x to 3x that Speaker 300:15:08of a non AutoNation Finance loan. Speaker 400:15:12Mike gave you some of the other numbers for AutoNation Finance. The business is on track to exceed our original expectation of over $700,000,000 in originations in 2024. That was a reminder, AN Finance now only underwrites AutoNation loan and targets a higher credit quality than it did prior to AutoNation ownership. It is already the number one lender across the AutoNation enterprise. Its credit profiles and profitability also continue to improve and delinquency rates on the business underwritten since the acquisition have been in line with our expectations. Speaker 400:15:46We're also finding that AN Finance is deepening the relationship we have with our customers. So far, this acquisition is proving out with attractive cash on cash returns on equity. Moving to Slide 8 on after sale. We grew at 9% same store pace through May. Gross profit in June was down about 20% year over year reflecting the challenges from the outage and for the quarter, total store gross profit declined approximately 1% from a year ago. Speaker 400:16:14Our gross margin rate once again increased reaching 48% for the quarter. This is up 60 basis points from both a year ago and sequentially as the value per repair order has improved and we had a favorable mix shift to higher margin categories within aftersales. To Slide 9, adjusted free cash flow for the first half of the year was $519,000,000 compared to $530,000,000 a year ago. And as you can see, the conversion relative to our income improved. The timing of payments during the Q2 were affected by the CDK outage, although conversion would still have been higher than 2023 even without this timing impact. Speaker 400:16:55We remain focused on our cash cycles across the business, which has helped us to achieve these results. We closely monitor our metrics for our key operating cycles and have resources and programs in place to drive efficiency in each. Capital investments were slightly below 2023 levels and consistent with the expansion of AN Finance, our auto loans receivable related to the loans originated at our owned stores increased by approximately $370,000,000 in the first half of the year. And as I mentioned, we expect continued growth in this portfolio. Slide 10 shows our capital allocation for the first half of twenty twenty four compared to the same 6 months in 2023. Speaker 400:17:37Now being a strong generator of cash provides us nice optionality in terms of capital allocation. To me, the debt and M and A line stand on for the first half of twenty twenty three. We were net borrowers by over $400,000,000 to support M and A. In 2024, we've significantly moderated our borrowing activity in light of the lower M and A activity to date and lower share repurchases. We do remain committed to the efficient allocation of our capital to both M and A and share repurchases. Speaker 400:18:06This will be balanced with the need to maintain appropriate leverage levels in this dynamic environment to support our investment grade credit rating. At quarter end, our leverage was 2.5 times EBITDA, which is in line with our 2 to 3 times EBITDA long term target. Now let me turn the call back to Mike before we address your questions. Speaker 300:18:25Yes. Thank you, Tom. So as you can imagine, we are pleased to move on particularly from the end of Q2. And while we do so, I think it's important we do not allow some improvement. Performance trends we were seeing to be lost in the midst of the outage. Speaker 300:18:38I'm encouraged the business delivered reasonably close to what was a strong Q1 despite the difficult circumstances. Margin and cash were the highlights as were the pre outage volume trends. Looking forward, as I mentioned earlier, I view the current levels of vehicle demand we are seeing as positive. With this coupled with our significantly strengthened supply of new vehicles, I expect to regain any share loss in the coming periods. Now we continue to work we have continued work to do in our improving used businesses. Speaker 300:19:09As you know, this is a very high term business and its performance is largely in our control. We have strong self sourcing capabilities, remain focused on turning inventory quickly and are pleased with the quarter over quarter margin improvement. With that, I'd like to hand it over for any Q and A you may have. Thank you. Speaker 100:19:27Alyssa, if you could please open up the lines for Q and A. Operator00:19:32Certainly. We will now begin the Q and A session. The first question is from the line of John Murphy with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:19:45Good morning, guys. Just want to ask one very quick one before second longer one. What was the reaction that your sales folks had to the $43,000,000 that you paid despite CDK disruption? I'm just curious how much goodwill that may have engendered with folks. Speaker 300:20:04Thanks, John. I actually was in the dealerships when we made the announcement. As you can imagine, there was given the nature of their pay and obviously their dependency on productivity, there was a lot of concern within the businesses about the impact on them and their families. So I think the sense of gratitude and recognition of support from the organization was clearly seen when I was there and we continue to see it in the business, not just for our sales executives, but also for our technicians because as you know, and I mentioned briefly in my remarks, we've grown our technician base. It's incredibly competitive labor market, retention of technicians, development of technicians is so important and given all of the work that we have done, I think it was a very necessary and right investment for us to make. Speaker 300:20:54And you saw the impact, these things are not cheap. But at the end of the day, I genuinely believe that businesses are created and delivered through the people that they employ and the people that they engage. So for me, it was a necessary thing to do. Sorry for the long answer, good quick question. No, it's a guide. Speaker 500:21:13I think it will pay dividends for some time to come. Just on cap allocation real quick, I mean, it seems like there might be a slight shift that occurs over time as acquisitions become more realistic on multiples, might be more capital that goes towards Automation USA stores as 0 to 6 year old fleet eventually grows in 1 to 2 years' time. How do you think about sort of the shift in potential cap allocation over the coming quarters and potentially coming years as things shift and maybe your shares are less attractive relative to, I'm sure they're probably hopefully be less attractive over time as they go up. But to those other incremental opportunities to allocate capital accretively? Speaker 300:22:01Well, I'll start John and then Tom I'll ask you also to comment on this question. There's no change in terms of philosophical approach to capital allocation and it starts with the best returns we can give our shareholders and will always be, centered around our shareholders. And as such, we tend to have a very consistent method of assessing investments we make, whether that's investments in our own stock or investments in in dealerships. There is no doubt that we are seeing and we'll continue to see for a period of time a normalization of asset prices in the marketplace. And as such, they become more attractive than they were, for example, 12 months ago because the combination of returning capital to our shareholders and growth in our organization organically or M and A is important. Speaker 300:22:49It's those two things working in tandem that I think ultimately deliver the best shareholder return over the period and into the future and that is our focus. So you're going to see exactly the same view on capital allocation. The resulting allocation of spend may change, but it will only change because assets are very attractive and synergistic to what we already have in place. Tom, I don't know if you want to add. Yes. Speaker 400:23:12No, I would have been totally answering on the same return based focus. I don't see a shift. We don't talk about a shift. We're just basing it on where we get the best returns. I would say that we still don't think we're at our intrinsic value on the share price and so that does remain attractive to us. Speaker 500:23:37I would definitely agree. Thank you very much guys. I appreciate it. Speaker 400:23:40Thanks, sir. Thank Operator00:23:43you. The next question is from the line of Rajat Gupta with JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:23:52Great. Thanks for taking the question. I had a question on parts and services. You gave us now the April May commentary 9% same store growth. Clearly, that's well above what we've seen at your peers. Speaker 200:24:07But you mentioned the 3% growth in technician headcount. I'm curious if you could unpack that 9% a bit more in terms of how much is coming from price, from mix and just traffic? And how should we think about how July is tracking right now and expectations for during the end of the year? And I have a quick follow-up. Thanks. Speaker 300:24:33So when I reflect back and think about the delivery of that, a large amount came from the incremental capacity that we had and Christian and all of the after sales teams in the dealerships really focused on service effectiveness, which as you know is a penetration into the vehicle park. It's an area where traditionally franchise retailers are only getting 50% of what's out there within 7 year park. And for us, that is the key focus. So when I think about our 9% growth, some of it did come from mix because we saw a reduction, for example, in some of our wholesale and retail counterparts and a little bit of reduction in our internal work. But the majority of what we're seeing is incremental revenue and income on a per repair order basis because some of the technology that we've put in place and the interface that we have with our customers means that we're much more effective at communicating with our customers opportunities for them to preemptively, in many instances, look after the service needs of their vehicles. Speaker 300:25:35So it's a combination of mix change on one hand and also incremental revenue per repair order. Tom, any other color to Speaker 200:25:42add to that? Speaker 400:25:42No, just you'd asked about July, Richard. Yes, yes. Speaker 300:25:47Well, I think July, I mean, there's return very strongly on the aftersales on the service and parts business. I mean, it may be that some of the unlocking that John mentioned from our people. Now I don't think that we will recover per se all of the hours that were lost because there is still a capacity limitation that we have. But I think if I look across the various elements of our business, the after sales teams, I think have recovered the quickest. And I would say we exited July on a good pace. Speaker 200:26:21Got it. That's very clear. And just a follow-up, a bit of a long term question. With the experience you had with the CDK outage, I'm curious like what does this mean for your thinking around long term like systems that you have in place? Are you thinking about like maybe adding more redundancy, partnering with other vendors or any more like cybersecurity, cyber insurance expenses that might start to flow through. Speaker 200:26:52Curious like what's have you started to think in that direction and what that would mean just from like an IT expenses or cost structure perspective? Thanks. Speaker 300:27:06Let me try and give you a good answer on this. So obviously what we're able to do looking back now is we're able to see which elements and systems have the biggest impact on us across the integrations that we've had. AutoNation has spent a lot of time integrating with the DMS system to drive some productivity levels, enabling us, for example, to provide large volume back office services from central locations. And that integration, frankly, would have been developed whether it was Reynold or Reynolds, CDK or any other DMS provider. So from my point of view, I think one of the important things as we review that period of time is to see which had the biggest impact in our performance and what should we do in terms of providing either a backup system or a degree if you like redundancy that means that impact could be limited. Speaker 300:28:03So we've done that work. And as I mentioned, some of the things that we did in response to the initial outage were systems that were on the shelf that needed further development and integration so that we could use them much more productively. So we now understand things that we may want to invest in and have invested in that would protect us in some of those key, let me call, contribution areas that were impacted the highest. For example, CRM, as you know, the speed, the accuracy and the professionalism that we respond to inbound opportunities, particularly digital inbound opportunities, has a significant impact on the conversion rate and the output of those. When you lose your CRN systems, you obviously your productivity drops dramatically. Speaker 300:29:00So that's an area where we can, because of our IT guys and go develop a light system that doesn't involve a huge amount of investment that will not have the full functionality of all the work that we have done with our CKD partners in this area, but we'll provide a degree of functionality that means the productivity loss that we saw will be mitigated to a certain extent. And obviously, it's incumbent upon us to look at that and strike the right balance between investments that we want to make, recognizing that this event was, I don't want to use the term one time, but that this event was not something that you would completely structure your business around. I would rather structure our business around making sure that we are adequately invested, for example, in cybersecurity. Clearly, there are learnings for everybody involved in this and we're just trying to expect the most beneficial ones for the company. Yes. Speaker 300:29:56I mean, the thing that Speaker 400:29:58I would add is that it's a great question, John. I mean, we're early days in trying to get to what this means for us. Obviously, we've been trying to restore continuity over the last 6 weeks, which as Mike said, we're pretty much there. When you look at the overall profitability of the business, I mean, obviously, 75% of it is in service and CFS. And you would want those 2 platforms to be trouble free in any kind of disruption, handle repair orders and handle repair orders and maintenance, be able to have continuity in our spare parts supply to be able to process customer tickets, all of that, really, really important. Speaker 400:30:50And our workarounds were pretty effective, but I think we see some opportunity there as we move forward. Same thing with CFS in terms of being able to have continuity around presentation of alternatives and helping customers understand the product and finance offerings that we have. Speaker 200:31:13Got it. That's very clear. Thanks for all the color. I'll jump back in queue. Operator00:31:20Thank you. The next question is from the line of Douglas Dutton with Evercore. Your line is now open. Speaker 100:31:29Hey, morning team. Thanks for taking my question here. Just wanted to ask first on SG and A normalization in Q3. Are there still some latent effects from the lost productivity and lack of continuity early in July? And do we expect that percentage to stay elevated? Speaker 100:31:45Or do we head back towards the more normal mid-sixty 6 percent range as a percent of gross profit? Speaker 400:31:53Yes. Great question, Doug. I mean, I'd encourage you to look at the overall spend on SG and A. We do think that the impacts that we mentioned, roughly $0.76 of loss profit, mostly at the gross margin level due distort the ratio of SG and A to gross profit. So when you look at just the SG and A itself, it's almost identical from Q1 to Q2, which kind of says that we are able to understand the mix, probably 70% of it is variable and 30% is fixed. Speaker 400:32:37The fixed piece, we've done a very good job of holding the line on and we do see further opportunities for productivity as we get into the more densification and more centralization of some of our back office activities. So as the volume returns and we're able to keep those costs flat and continue to drive the productivity in them from our initiatives, I think you'll see ongoing improvement in the ratio. Speaker 300:33:06Let me just jump in there a bit, Tom, and also add some color for Doug. You're going to see elevated percentages of SG and A for the period of, I would say, 8% of July as we were returning to levels of productivity that was still being impacted from the ancillary systems and services that were being integrated. I view that now behind us as we get into August, but it will have a residual effect on that percentage. Tom is exactly right on the dollar amount, but your question was around the percentage. So just my color on that point. Speaker 100:33:50Okay. That's super helpful. I appreciate that guys. And then just on PVRs, they continue to look better on sort of a deceleration basis. Have you had any internal change in thesis on where these could land once we get to some fully normalized level and USR grows back above say $16,500,000 Has there been any sort of internal discussion on that? Speaker 300:34:13We always have internal discussion on our PDRs. And I think you guys will recall on the call when I was asked this question coming into the year, I think many of you thought I was relatively pessimistic when I said our expectations are they'll be fully normalized back to 2019 at the end of the year. I have to say I'm moderating that I'm moderating that view on our experience over a couple of recent months. I still think that there will be some continued moderation for the year, but probably not at the pace that I saw before. Even look at the difference in mix, for example, of beds now compared to what it was expected to be. Speaker 300:34:47And I think, as you all know, the margin on battery electric vehicles for the OEMs and for us is significantly lower than their combustion and their hybrid counterparts. So you're going to see a moderation on our outlook for BEVs, I think, in the year, which will also moderate our outlook on PBR. So in summary, we're still going to see some moderation in my view on those, but not to the level I anticipated early in the year. Excellent. Thanks team. Operator00:35:18Thank you. The next question is from the line of Bret Jordan with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:35:25Hey, good morning guys. On that PVR question, I guess the moderation, how much is mix driven? If you think about the outperformance of import versus domestic, are you seeing maybe a Stellantis still deteriorating at that prior rate, but those products like Toyota that are in shorter supply are outperforming and supporting PVR? Or is everything generally stabilizing? I Speaker 300:35:51think there is a mix impact for sure because if I look just year over year in the quarter, I think mix and Tom you got to moderate what I say, but my estimate mix is somewhere between $70, dollars 80 year over year quarter in Q2. But I expect that to largely wash back out of the system as we recover market share, particularly in our premiumluxury. There's been a lot of discussion and debate about different OEMs and their volumes in the marketplace and inventory build. The reality is inventory there are many OEMs that recognize they are where they want to be and maybe a bit higher on their inventory and they're going to have step into the marketplace to address that because dealers in and of themselves are not going to be able to get to the net transaction price that will create the volume momentum that they need and they're looking for as well. So my answer to the question is I do think that there's potentially mix improvements as we get into Q3 and beyond that impacted us year over year in Q2. Speaker 300:36:54But I think generally, you've got a number of things going on in the marketplace, including higher levels of lease, for example, that just lead us to believe that you're going to see a moderation in the reduction we're seeing on margins. Tom, do you want to add anything? Yes. Speaker 600:37:14Okay. And then I guess the question is you're seeing stability in used profits. Does that make you think about reaccelerating on Ovation USA? We didn't really talk about it much in the prepared remarks, but how does that look on the next couple of years from a growth strategy? Speaker 300:37:29Well, one of the things that I think we're comfortable with is the revised pace of openings because particularly through the back of through last year, I think we were opening too many. And our capacity to operationalize those, get the right level of inventory into those businesses. Really does mean we have to be, I think, more paced in terms of how many we bring on stream. We I would anticipate another maybe 4 or 5 this year max. So 10, 11 coming on stream. Speaker 300:38:02I think that's something that we can easily absorb into our system, connect into our processes and make sure that we have the sourcing in place give them what they need in terms of used vehicle inventory. There is still interesting dynamics in the used market. As I mentioned in my remarks, you're seeing mix changes in terms of price buckets, which are important for us and you still see certain availability issues for different price categories and that's going to continue through the year. We our used vehicle inventory, Tom mentioned, dropped particularly due to that last period of June. We're in the process of recovering inventory levels. Speaker 300:38:44So our used vehicle sales volume will fully recover once we get our inventory levels up to what I would consider a normal amount and they're probably 15% below where they need to be at this moment in time, but closing that gap. So, I don't know if that fully answered your question. Brett will let me know if it did or not. Speaker 400:39:08No, that was good. Thank you. Appreciate it. Operator00:39:14Thank you. Our final question will be from the line of Adam Jonas with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:39:22Hi. This is Daniella Hagen on for Adam Jonas. So my question is on vehicle affordability, which continues to be a problem for many Americans, higher for longer ASPs and also rates. What is your view on the state of the consumer? And is there anything you're seeing on the auto credit side that gives you concern? Speaker 300:39:45Well, I think there's no doubt that affordability is top of mind for many of the consumers that come into this marketplace whether it's on new or used vehicles. I mentioned the fact that if you look at our CFS performance, it's moderated very slightly. That was about product attachment rates. And that is all about, not desire for the product per se, but it's all about managing to a monthly budget. So I think that there are impacts in the marketplace. Speaker 300:40:13You're also beginning to see increases, I think, in delinquency rates that, I think are manageable and not where they were a year ago. But I do think there are signs in the marketplace that the consumers continue to feel the pressure from the current environment. In response to that, you have already talked about the mix shift that we are facilitating and seeing in our used vehicle business. We're also seeing, I think, from the OEM side, increase in leasing, which helps affordability. And I think you'll continue to see OEMs responding in an appropriate way with managing net transaction price to help that situation and keep momentum in new vehicle sales because in my view, there's still quite a large pent up demand on new vehicle sales that will get released over the coming periods with the right pricing in the marketplace. Speaker 700:41:09Got it. Thank you. Speaker 100:41:16That concludes our question and A portion. Mike, if Speaker 200:41:19you want to make closing comments here. Speaker 300:41:22Yes. Thank you. And again, thank you for all your questions and for being on the call today. When we came into this year, I said I was certain that it would continue the year would continue to bring a normal mix of headwinds and tailwinds. And while the CDK outage was far from a normal headwind, as I said in my early comments, I consider the operational impact of the CKD incident is now behind us as we exit July. Speaker 300:41:49And obviously, our daily focus is on fully rebuilding the momentum that we lost and regaining, any share that we lost particularly in that last period of June. I'd like to thank all of our associates and employees in the business, not just for their response to the outage, but also for the work that they've done creating the momentum that we saw through May. It's a pleasure to be in the same organization as you. Thank you for what you do every day. Thank you everyone. Operator00:42:20This concludes today's AutoNation 2nd quarter call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways During Q2, a CDK system outage on June 19 disrupted CRM, deal processing and service systems, leading to roughly $45 million (≈$1.50 per share) in lost revenue and one‐time costs, but full operational functionality was restored by late July. New vehicle sales declined 2% for the quarter despite flat to 5% growth in April and May, with import brand units rising 6%, and new‐vehicle margins stabilizing at around $3,108 (≈$2.20 per unit). Used‐vehicle unit sales fell 8% same‐store (down 5% total), though sequential PVRs improved by $165, inventory sourcing is returning to normal by August, and pricing alignment actions drove margin recovery. Customer Financial Services (CFS) originations reached over $240 million, lifting the ANF portfolio above $700 million, as AutoNation shifts toward in‐house financing that offers 2.5–3× higher lifetime profitability versus third‐party loans. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning. Thank you for attending the AutoNation 2Q24 Earnings Call. My name is Elisa, and I will be your moderator today. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I would now like to pass the call to our host, Derek Fiebick with AutoNation. Operator00:00:20Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:23Thank you, Alyssa, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to AutoNation's Q2 2024 Conference Call. Leading our call today will be Mike Manley, our Chief Executive Officer and Tom Sloczek, our Chief Financial Officer. Following their remarks, we'll open up the call to questions. Before beginning, I'd like to remind you that certain statements and information on this call, including any statements regarding our anticipated financial results and objectives, constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Speaker 100:00:56Such forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks that may cause our actual results or performance to differ materially from such forward looking statements. Additional discussions of factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially are contained in our press release issued today and in our filings with the SEC. Certain non GAAP measures, as defined under SEC rules, will be discussed on this call. Reconciliations are provided in our materials and on our website located at investors. Autonation.com. Speaker 100:01:29With that, I'll turn the Speaker 200:01:30call over to Mike. Speaker 300:01:31Thank you, Derek, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. As I mentioned in today's press release, the CDK outage, March 4 was developing into a very positive quarter for automation. April May new unit sales were up about 5%. Used unit sales were flat or accelerating in June. Speaker 300:01:51After sales growth was consistent with 1st quarter trends and margin trends in many of our business lines are moving positively. And I was certainly encouraged with where the quarter was sitting when the CDK outage hit us on June 19. Now as usual, Tom is going to take you through more details of our performance during the quarter in his section, but I did want to give you a summary of the scope of the impact on our business. Before I do that, I think it's important to state that as of the last week of July, the incident with regard to its operational impact on our business is now behind us. Now to give you a sense of scope, virtually all of our business processes including CRM, deal processing, financial services, inventory management, after sales systems and accounting are tied in one form and another to the CDK background and therefore were all immediately impacted. Speaker 300:02:37Now naturally we worked with each of our business units to put in place interim solutions, some of which were off the shelf and some of which had to be developed. Now each solution based upon the discipline involved returned our business to some level of functionality and productivity, but the work around processes were in large part manual. For example, we manually processed close to 60,000 repair orders during the outage. And you can imagine this slowed things down tremendously. Now main functionality of CDK was bought back online in late June. Speaker 300:03:09However, there were some ancillary integrations which have only recently been restored. Now as a direct outcome, our 2nd quarter results were adversely impacted by approximately 1 point $5 per share, which includes the lost revenue and margins during the outage as well as the impact of certain onetime costs incurred, including a pay guarantee for our variable compensation based associates. Now notwithstanding the aforementioned, there were a number of really encouraging areas in our performance in the Q2, which I'm going to highlight. Let me start with new vehicles. You can see that margins are stabilizing and following 2 quarters of sequential margin decline of more than $300 per quarter. Speaker 300:03:492nd quarter margins declined to $3,108 or $2.20 during the period and were basically flat May to June. Now although for the quarter new vehicle sales were down 2% even with the outage, we grew units of our import brands by 6%. In used vehicles, total used vehicles for the quarter decreased by 8% from a year ago on a same store basis and total units were 5% lower and that benefited from the growth of our AN USA footprint. And to date, as you know, we've opened 4 new AN USA stores. Used car demand remains relatively strong and certainly through the quarter, although demand by price point changed to move into lower price bands, but total demand volume is healthy. Speaker 300:04:36Our pace of used car inventory sourcing slowed significantly in the second half of June, now improving and I expect it to return to normal levels of used car inventory in the second half of August. Our PVRs continued to recover in the quarter, increasing by $165 on a sequential basis. And you'll recall that earlier this year, we discussed the actions our operating teams are taking to better align inventory and increase turns. And I'm pleased to note the continued recovery in margins, which is not coming at the expense of the slowing turn rate. Customer Financial Services or CFS continued to deliver in the quarter. Speaker 300:05:13We did see some moderation in products sold per unit sale, which dropped approximately 10% from last year. Now we progressively took actions to address this and I'm saying we've seen an increase throughout July back to what we consider normalized levels. Now as part of our CFS strategy, we remain focused on driving penetration of automation finance. ANF originated over $240,000,000 of loans during the quarter, almost 4 times higher than the Q2 of 2023 and the portfolio balance now exceeds $700,000,000 Now for our shareholders, this means a shift to a model that on a lifetime basis is 2.5x to 3x more profitable than now with the traditional third party finance offering. While this focus can have a short term adverse impact on CFS PVRs and cash flows, we're pleased with the enhanced long term value creation by the more regular contact with our customers that this model naturally provides. Speaker 300:06:12After sales delivered another good quarter tracking around 10% growth for the quarter through May, we ended basically flat as a result of the loss June. During the quarter, we improved service effectiveness and delivered a positive mix shift, which enabled a year over year 60 basis point increase in gross margin to 48% for the quarter. Now this business represents close to half of our profitability and is a key part of our continued engagement with our customers. We continue to focus on technician development, productivity and retention as well as capacity utilization to support the continued growth of the business, which we expect to deliver increasingly in the second half. Importantly, our total technician workforce increased 3% from a year ago and this was achieved in a labor market that remains very competitive. Speaker 300:07:03We also joined forces with the U. S. Army to create job opportunities for soldiers through the Partnership Fuel Success program. The strength of our balance sheet and cash generation continue to give us optionality for capital deployment. As planned, we're spending more modestly on CapEx and to date through the Q2, we purchased $350,000,000 of AutoNation shares at an average price of $1.59 per share. Speaker 300:07:27This reduced share count by more than 5% since the beginning of the year. Our leverage remains within our targeted range. Inventory levels in new vehicles are almost fully restored to pre COVID levels, and I'm happy with where we're positioned in our new vehicle business. And as such, I'm expecting to recover market share in the second half of the year. As you know, while new vehicle sales generate a small portion of our gross profit around 16 percent, they start the flywheel for all our other businesses, something which we're acutely focused on. Speaker 300:07:57We acquire trade in to sell as used. We attach product penetration and finance offerings and it leads to after sales business. So these continued strong trends for new vehicle sales are encouraging for that. And with that, I'm going to hand over to you, Tom. Speaker 400:08:10Okay. Thanks, Mike. I'm turning to Slide 4 to discuss our 2nd quarter P and L. Our total revenue of $6,480,000 was nearly identical to the Q1 despite the outage. And as Mike mentioned, we were tracking above expectations across the enterprise when the outage hit during one of the highest volume periods of the quarter. Speaker 400:08:31When you combine this with the expected year over year normalization in vehicle selling prices, our revenue decreased 6% from 2023. Gross profit of $1,200,000,000 was 18% of revenue and decreased 3% on a sequential basis, reflecting the productivity drag from the outage. Mike mentioned the encouraging margin rate trends. Gross margin rates improved 60 basis points from the Q1 in both the used and after sales businesses and the rate of TBR moderation in the new business, as Mike mentioned, was also encouraging. Adjusted SG and A was relatively stable at 782,000,000 dollars compared to $786,000,000 in the Q1. Speaker 400:09:12This results in adjusted operating income of $319,000,000 just under 5% of revenue. Now below the operating line, our 2nd quarter results were impacted by higher interest expense mainly for floorplan debt and benefited from lower income tax expense. The 2nd quarter floorplan interest expense of $54,000,000 was up $21,000,000 from a year ago, as expected, which is a reflection mostly of higher inventory levels and to a lesser degree, higher interest rates. As a reminder, we reflect floor plan assistance received from OEMs in gross margin and assistance was down slightly from the Q2 last year. And so net of OEM incentives, the new vehicle floor plan expense changed from benefit of $3,000,000 in 2023 with cost of $21,000,000 in 2024. Speaker 400:10:05Our 2nd quarter adjusted net income excludes the $43,000,000 of direct costs associated with the CDK outage and last year's Q2 adjusted net income excludes $16,000,000 of losses from hailstorms and natural catastrophes. All in, this resulted in adjusted net income of $163,000,000 compared to $285,000,000 a year ago. Mike talked about our share repurchase activity. This helped to partially offset the EPS effects of the net income decline. Total shares repurchased over the past year have decreased our average outstanding share count by 10% to 40,700,000 shares in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 400:10:45This was a benefit for our adjusted EPS, which was $3.99 for the quarter. Let me move to Slide 5 for some more color on new vehicle performance for the quarter. New vehicle unit volumes were tracking at approximately 5% growth through May, but ended the quarter down 2%, including an increase of 6% for imports, a 5% decrease in domestics and a 10% decline in premiumluxury. The outage disrupted vehicle sales, inventory and customer relationship management functions in June. We are encouraged by customer demand indications, vehicle supply and manufacturing support, including manufacturing incentives such as low interest financing and rebates. Speaker 400:11:28On average, new vehicle unit revenue decreased 3% in the quarter, while new vehicle unit costs increased modestly resulting in moderation of new vehicle PBR. As Mike mentioned, we are encouraged with the stabilization of our new PBRs and the $2.20 sequential decline is more modest on an absolute and relative basis than we've experienced over the last several quarters. The new vehicle supply dynamics have significantly improved. New vehicle inventory levels stood at 47,000 units at the end of June. This represents 67 days of sales, up from 44 days at the end of the Q1. Speaker 400:12:07Excluding the impact of the outage, we estimate that we would have been closer to 50 days sales at the end of the second quarter, which continues to track below the mid-sixty day levels pre COVID. Turning to Slide 6, used vehicles, we were tracking at flat year over year volumes through May, but ended with a unit volume decrease of 8% same store from a year ago and 5% decline on a total store basis. This reflects the outage disruption on our vehicle sales, inventory and CRM functions. Average used vehicle selling prices moderated year over year by 5%, reflecting the shift to lower priced used vehicles. Demand for those lower priced used vehicles remains resilient. Speaker 400:12:55Total unit sales of vehicles priced under 20,000 increased by 4% from a year ago. Mid price vehicles were down 5% and vehicles over 40,000 were down more significantly. With the OEMs taking actions to improve the affordability of new vehicles, there has been some shift away from higher priced used vehicles. Mike discussed the encouraging outcomes in used vehicle PBRs in the quarter, reflecting the actions we took to better align used vehicle inventory with market demand and to optimize pricing. While unit profitability was down year over year as a result of the mix shift to lower priced used vehicles, these actions helped to increase unit profitability by $165 on a sequential basis. Speaker 400:13:39Used vehicle inventory levels are at 30,000 units at the end of June, down 15% from a year ago. This represents 34 day sales, up from 31 day sales at the end of the Q1. Excluding the impact of the outage, we estimate that we would have been closer to mid-20s day sales, which is less than we would prefer. Used vehicle sales and profitability continue to be a big area of focus for us as we emphasize effective sourcing, pricing and speed while optimizing customer satisfaction. I'm on now Slide 7, Customer Financial Services. Speaker 400:14:13The outage not only reduced new and used vehicle sales, but further limited our ability to attach CFS product and finance offerings to the vehicles we did sell, as Mike mentioned. So a little bit of a double whammy in an environment where high interest rates are already consuming more of our customers' monthly budgets. However, our outage workarounds were very effective in this area. We were able to restore our product attachment rates and finance penetration and kept CFS unit profitability within 3% of the Q1 rates. We are encouraged by our continued strong performance in this portion of the business. Speaker 400:14:49We continue to grow AAN Finance business, as Mike mentioned, which did serve to shift about $85 away from CVS CFS PBRs in the quarter. This is done with purpose, however, as the profitability to AutoNation over the course of an AutoNation finance loan is expected to be more than 2.5x to 3x that Speaker 300:15:08of a non AutoNation Finance loan. Speaker 400:15:12Mike gave you some of the other numbers for AutoNation Finance. The business is on track to exceed our original expectation of over $700,000,000 in originations in 2024. That was a reminder, AN Finance now only underwrites AutoNation loan and targets a higher credit quality than it did prior to AutoNation ownership. It is already the number one lender across the AutoNation enterprise. Its credit profiles and profitability also continue to improve and delinquency rates on the business underwritten since the acquisition have been in line with our expectations. Speaker 400:15:46We're also finding that AN Finance is deepening the relationship we have with our customers. So far, this acquisition is proving out with attractive cash on cash returns on equity. Moving to Slide 8 on after sale. We grew at 9% same store pace through May. Gross profit in June was down about 20% year over year reflecting the challenges from the outage and for the quarter, total store gross profit declined approximately 1% from a year ago. Speaker 400:16:14Our gross margin rate once again increased reaching 48% for the quarter. This is up 60 basis points from both a year ago and sequentially as the value per repair order has improved and we had a favorable mix shift to higher margin categories within aftersales. To Slide 9, adjusted free cash flow for the first half of the year was $519,000,000 compared to $530,000,000 a year ago. And as you can see, the conversion relative to our income improved. The timing of payments during the Q2 were affected by the CDK outage, although conversion would still have been higher than 2023 even without this timing impact. Speaker 400:16:55We remain focused on our cash cycles across the business, which has helped us to achieve these results. We closely monitor our metrics for our key operating cycles and have resources and programs in place to drive efficiency in each. Capital investments were slightly below 2023 levels and consistent with the expansion of AN Finance, our auto loans receivable related to the loans originated at our owned stores increased by approximately $370,000,000 in the first half of the year. And as I mentioned, we expect continued growth in this portfolio. Slide 10 shows our capital allocation for the first half of twenty twenty four compared to the same 6 months in 2023. Speaker 400:17:37Now being a strong generator of cash provides us nice optionality in terms of capital allocation. To me, the debt and M and A line stand on for the first half of twenty twenty three. We were net borrowers by over $400,000,000 to support M and A. In 2024, we've significantly moderated our borrowing activity in light of the lower M and A activity to date and lower share repurchases. We do remain committed to the efficient allocation of our capital to both M and A and share repurchases. Speaker 400:18:06This will be balanced with the need to maintain appropriate leverage levels in this dynamic environment to support our investment grade credit rating. At quarter end, our leverage was 2.5 times EBITDA, which is in line with our 2 to 3 times EBITDA long term target. Now let me turn the call back to Mike before we address your questions. Speaker 300:18:25Yes. Thank you, Tom. So as you can imagine, we are pleased to move on particularly from the end of Q2. And while we do so, I think it's important we do not allow some improvement. Performance trends we were seeing to be lost in the midst of the outage. Speaker 300:18:38I'm encouraged the business delivered reasonably close to what was a strong Q1 despite the difficult circumstances. Margin and cash were the highlights as were the pre outage volume trends. Looking forward, as I mentioned earlier, I view the current levels of vehicle demand we are seeing as positive. With this coupled with our significantly strengthened supply of new vehicles, I expect to regain any share loss in the coming periods. Now we continue to work we have continued work to do in our improving used businesses. Speaker 300:19:09As you know, this is a very high term business and its performance is largely in our control. We have strong self sourcing capabilities, remain focused on turning inventory quickly and are pleased with the quarter over quarter margin improvement. With that, I'd like to hand it over for any Q and A you may have. Thank you. Speaker 100:19:27Alyssa, if you could please open up the lines for Q and A. Operator00:19:32Certainly. We will now begin the Q and A session. The first question is from the line of John Murphy with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:19:45Good morning, guys. Just want to ask one very quick one before second longer one. What was the reaction that your sales folks had to the $43,000,000 that you paid despite CDK disruption? I'm just curious how much goodwill that may have engendered with folks. Speaker 300:20:04Thanks, John. I actually was in the dealerships when we made the announcement. As you can imagine, there was given the nature of their pay and obviously their dependency on productivity, there was a lot of concern within the businesses about the impact on them and their families. So I think the sense of gratitude and recognition of support from the organization was clearly seen when I was there and we continue to see it in the business, not just for our sales executives, but also for our technicians because as you know, and I mentioned briefly in my remarks, we've grown our technician base. It's incredibly competitive labor market, retention of technicians, development of technicians is so important and given all of the work that we have done, I think it was a very necessary and right investment for us to make. Speaker 300:20:54And you saw the impact, these things are not cheap. But at the end of the day, I genuinely believe that businesses are created and delivered through the people that they employ and the people that they engage. So for me, it was a necessary thing to do. Sorry for the long answer, good quick question. No, it's a guide. Speaker 500:21:13I think it will pay dividends for some time to come. Just on cap allocation real quick, I mean, it seems like there might be a slight shift that occurs over time as acquisitions become more realistic on multiples, might be more capital that goes towards Automation USA stores as 0 to 6 year old fleet eventually grows in 1 to 2 years' time. How do you think about sort of the shift in potential cap allocation over the coming quarters and potentially coming years as things shift and maybe your shares are less attractive relative to, I'm sure they're probably hopefully be less attractive over time as they go up. But to those other incremental opportunities to allocate capital accretively? Speaker 300:22:01Well, I'll start John and then Tom I'll ask you also to comment on this question. There's no change in terms of philosophical approach to capital allocation and it starts with the best returns we can give our shareholders and will always be, centered around our shareholders. And as such, we tend to have a very consistent method of assessing investments we make, whether that's investments in our own stock or investments in in dealerships. There is no doubt that we are seeing and we'll continue to see for a period of time a normalization of asset prices in the marketplace. And as such, they become more attractive than they were, for example, 12 months ago because the combination of returning capital to our shareholders and growth in our organization organically or M and A is important. Speaker 300:22:49It's those two things working in tandem that I think ultimately deliver the best shareholder return over the period and into the future and that is our focus. So you're going to see exactly the same view on capital allocation. The resulting allocation of spend may change, but it will only change because assets are very attractive and synergistic to what we already have in place. Tom, I don't know if you want to add. Yes. Speaker 400:23:12No, I would have been totally answering on the same return based focus. I don't see a shift. We don't talk about a shift. We're just basing it on where we get the best returns. I would say that we still don't think we're at our intrinsic value on the share price and so that does remain attractive to us. Speaker 500:23:37I would definitely agree. Thank you very much guys. I appreciate it. Speaker 400:23:40Thanks, sir. Thank Operator00:23:43you. The next question is from the line of Rajat Gupta with JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:23:52Great. Thanks for taking the question. I had a question on parts and services. You gave us now the April May commentary 9% same store growth. Clearly, that's well above what we've seen at your peers. Speaker 200:24:07But you mentioned the 3% growth in technician headcount. I'm curious if you could unpack that 9% a bit more in terms of how much is coming from price, from mix and just traffic? And how should we think about how July is tracking right now and expectations for during the end of the year? And I have a quick follow-up. Thanks. Speaker 300:24:33So when I reflect back and think about the delivery of that, a large amount came from the incremental capacity that we had and Christian and all of the after sales teams in the dealerships really focused on service effectiveness, which as you know is a penetration into the vehicle park. It's an area where traditionally franchise retailers are only getting 50% of what's out there within 7 year park. And for us, that is the key focus. So when I think about our 9% growth, some of it did come from mix because we saw a reduction, for example, in some of our wholesale and retail counterparts and a little bit of reduction in our internal work. But the majority of what we're seeing is incremental revenue and income on a per repair order basis because some of the technology that we've put in place and the interface that we have with our customers means that we're much more effective at communicating with our customers opportunities for them to preemptively, in many instances, look after the service needs of their vehicles. Speaker 300:25:35So it's a combination of mix change on one hand and also incremental revenue per repair order. Tom, any other color to Speaker 200:25:42add to that? Speaker 400:25:42No, just you'd asked about July, Richard. Yes, yes. Speaker 300:25:47Well, I think July, I mean, there's return very strongly on the aftersales on the service and parts business. I mean, it may be that some of the unlocking that John mentioned from our people. Now I don't think that we will recover per se all of the hours that were lost because there is still a capacity limitation that we have. But I think if I look across the various elements of our business, the after sales teams, I think have recovered the quickest. And I would say we exited July on a good pace. Speaker 200:26:21Got it. That's very clear. And just a follow-up, a bit of a long term question. With the experience you had with the CDK outage, I'm curious like what does this mean for your thinking around long term like systems that you have in place? Are you thinking about like maybe adding more redundancy, partnering with other vendors or any more like cybersecurity, cyber insurance expenses that might start to flow through. Speaker 200:26:52Curious like what's have you started to think in that direction and what that would mean just from like an IT expenses or cost structure perspective? Thanks. Speaker 300:27:06Let me try and give you a good answer on this. So obviously what we're able to do looking back now is we're able to see which elements and systems have the biggest impact on us across the integrations that we've had. AutoNation has spent a lot of time integrating with the DMS system to drive some productivity levels, enabling us, for example, to provide large volume back office services from central locations. And that integration, frankly, would have been developed whether it was Reynold or Reynolds, CDK or any other DMS provider. So from my point of view, I think one of the important things as we review that period of time is to see which had the biggest impact in our performance and what should we do in terms of providing either a backup system or a degree if you like redundancy that means that impact could be limited. Speaker 300:28:03So we've done that work. And as I mentioned, some of the things that we did in response to the initial outage were systems that were on the shelf that needed further development and integration so that we could use them much more productively. So we now understand things that we may want to invest in and have invested in that would protect us in some of those key, let me call, contribution areas that were impacted the highest. For example, CRM, as you know, the speed, the accuracy and the professionalism that we respond to inbound opportunities, particularly digital inbound opportunities, has a significant impact on the conversion rate and the output of those. When you lose your CRN systems, you obviously your productivity drops dramatically. Speaker 300:29:00So that's an area where we can, because of our IT guys and go develop a light system that doesn't involve a huge amount of investment that will not have the full functionality of all the work that we have done with our CKD partners in this area, but we'll provide a degree of functionality that means the productivity loss that we saw will be mitigated to a certain extent. And obviously, it's incumbent upon us to look at that and strike the right balance between investments that we want to make, recognizing that this event was, I don't want to use the term one time, but that this event was not something that you would completely structure your business around. I would rather structure our business around making sure that we are adequately invested, for example, in cybersecurity. Clearly, there are learnings for everybody involved in this and we're just trying to expect the most beneficial ones for the company. Yes. Speaker 300:29:56I mean, the thing that Speaker 400:29:58I would add is that it's a great question, John. I mean, we're early days in trying to get to what this means for us. Obviously, we've been trying to restore continuity over the last 6 weeks, which as Mike said, we're pretty much there. When you look at the overall profitability of the business, I mean, obviously, 75% of it is in service and CFS. And you would want those 2 platforms to be trouble free in any kind of disruption, handle repair orders and handle repair orders and maintenance, be able to have continuity in our spare parts supply to be able to process customer tickets, all of that, really, really important. Speaker 400:30:50And our workarounds were pretty effective, but I think we see some opportunity there as we move forward. Same thing with CFS in terms of being able to have continuity around presentation of alternatives and helping customers understand the product and finance offerings that we have. Speaker 200:31:13Got it. That's very clear. Thanks for all the color. I'll jump back in queue. Operator00:31:20Thank you. The next question is from the line of Douglas Dutton with Evercore. Your line is now open. Speaker 100:31:29Hey, morning team. Thanks for taking my question here. Just wanted to ask first on SG and A normalization in Q3. Are there still some latent effects from the lost productivity and lack of continuity early in July? And do we expect that percentage to stay elevated? Speaker 100:31:45Or do we head back towards the more normal mid-sixty 6 percent range as a percent of gross profit? Speaker 400:31:53Yes. Great question, Doug. I mean, I'd encourage you to look at the overall spend on SG and A. We do think that the impacts that we mentioned, roughly $0.76 of loss profit, mostly at the gross margin level due distort the ratio of SG and A to gross profit. So when you look at just the SG and A itself, it's almost identical from Q1 to Q2, which kind of says that we are able to understand the mix, probably 70% of it is variable and 30% is fixed. Speaker 400:32:37The fixed piece, we've done a very good job of holding the line on and we do see further opportunities for productivity as we get into the more densification and more centralization of some of our back office activities. So as the volume returns and we're able to keep those costs flat and continue to drive the productivity in them from our initiatives, I think you'll see ongoing improvement in the ratio. Speaker 300:33:06Let me just jump in there a bit, Tom, and also add some color for Doug. You're going to see elevated percentages of SG and A for the period of, I would say, 8% of July as we were returning to levels of productivity that was still being impacted from the ancillary systems and services that were being integrated. I view that now behind us as we get into August, but it will have a residual effect on that percentage. Tom is exactly right on the dollar amount, but your question was around the percentage. So just my color on that point. Speaker 100:33:50Okay. That's super helpful. I appreciate that guys. And then just on PVRs, they continue to look better on sort of a deceleration basis. Have you had any internal change in thesis on where these could land once we get to some fully normalized level and USR grows back above say $16,500,000 Has there been any sort of internal discussion on that? Speaker 300:34:13We always have internal discussion on our PDRs. And I think you guys will recall on the call when I was asked this question coming into the year, I think many of you thought I was relatively pessimistic when I said our expectations are they'll be fully normalized back to 2019 at the end of the year. I have to say I'm moderating that I'm moderating that view on our experience over a couple of recent months. I still think that there will be some continued moderation for the year, but probably not at the pace that I saw before. Even look at the difference in mix, for example, of beds now compared to what it was expected to be. Speaker 300:34:47And I think, as you all know, the margin on battery electric vehicles for the OEMs and for us is significantly lower than their combustion and their hybrid counterparts. So you're going to see a moderation on our outlook for BEVs, I think, in the year, which will also moderate our outlook on PBR. So in summary, we're still going to see some moderation in my view on those, but not to the level I anticipated early in the year. Excellent. Thanks team. Operator00:35:18Thank you. The next question is from the line of Bret Jordan with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:35:25Hey, good morning guys. On that PVR question, I guess the moderation, how much is mix driven? If you think about the outperformance of import versus domestic, are you seeing maybe a Stellantis still deteriorating at that prior rate, but those products like Toyota that are in shorter supply are outperforming and supporting PVR? Or is everything generally stabilizing? I Speaker 300:35:51think there is a mix impact for sure because if I look just year over year in the quarter, I think mix and Tom you got to moderate what I say, but my estimate mix is somewhere between $70, dollars 80 year over year quarter in Q2. But I expect that to largely wash back out of the system as we recover market share, particularly in our premiumluxury. There's been a lot of discussion and debate about different OEMs and their volumes in the marketplace and inventory build. The reality is inventory there are many OEMs that recognize they are where they want to be and maybe a bit higher on their inventory and they're going to have step into the marketplace to address that because dealers in and of themselves are not going to be able to get to the net transaction price that will create the volume momentum that they need and they're looking for as well. So my answer to the question is I do think that there's potentially mix improvements as we get into Q3 and beyond that impacted us year over year in Q2. Speaker 300:36:54But I think generally, you've got a number of things going on in the marketplace, including higher levels of lease, for example, that just lead us to believe that you're going to see a moderation in the reduction we're seeing on margins. Tom, do you want to add anything? Yes. Speaker 600:37:14Okay. And then I guess the question is you're seeing stability in used profits. Does that make you think about reaccelerating on Ovation USA? We didn't really talk about it much in the prepared remarks, but how does that look on the next couple of years from a growth strategy? Speaker 300:37:29Well, one of the things that I think we're comfortable with is the revised pace of openings because particularly through the back of through last year, I think we were opening too many. And our capacity to operationalize those, get the right level of inventory into those businesses. Really does mean we have to be, I think, more paced in terms of how many we bring on stream. We I would anticipate another maybe 4 or 5 this year max. So 10, 11 coming on stream. Speaker 300:38:02I think that's something that we can easily absorb into our system, connect into our processes and make sure that we have the sourcing in place give them what they need in terms of used vehicle inventory. There is still interesting dynamics in the used market. As I mentioned in my remarks, you're seeing mix changes in terms of price buckets, which are important for us and you still see certain availability issues for different price categories and that's going to continue through the year. We our used vehicle inventory, Tom mentioned, dropped particularly due to that last period of June. We're in the process of recovering inventory levels. Speaker 300:38:44So our used vehicle sales volume will fully recover once we get our inventory levels up to what I would consider a normal amount and they're probably 15% below where they need to be at this moment in time, but closing that gap. So, I don't know if that fully answered your question. Brett will let me know if it did or not. Speaker 400:39:08No, that was good. Thank you. Appreciate it. Operator00:39:14Thank you. Our final question will be from the line of Adam Jonas with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:39:22Hi. This is Daniella Hagen on for Adam Jonas. So my question is on vehicle affordability, which continues to be a problem for many Americans, higher for longer ASPs and also rates. What is your view on the state of the consumer? And is there anything you're seeing on the auto credit side that gives you concern? Speaker 300:39:45Well, I think there's no doubt that affordability is top of mind for many of the consumers that come into this marketplace whether it's on new or used vehicles. I mentioned the fact that if you look at our CFS performance, it's moderated very slightly. That was about product attachment rates. And that is all about, not desire for the product per se, but it's all about managing to a monthly budget. So I think that there are impacts in the marketplace. Speaker 300:40:13You're also beginning to see increases, I think, in delinquency rates that, I think are manageable and not where they were a year ago. But I do think there are signs in the marketplace that the consumers continue to feel the pressure from the current environment. In response to that, you have already talked about the mix shift that we are facilitating and seeing in our used vehicle business. We're also seeing, I think, from the OEM side, increase in leasing, which helps affordability. And I think you'll continue to see OEMs responding in an appropriate way with managing net transaction price to help that situation and keep momentum in new vehicle sales because in my view, there's still quite a large pent up demand on new vehicle sales that will get released over the coming periods with the right pricing in the marketplace. Speaker 700:41:09Got it. Thank you. Speaker 100:41:16That concludes our question and A portion. Mike, if Speaker 200:41:19you want to make closing comments here. Speaker 300:41:22Yes. Thank you. And again, thank you for all your questions and for being on the call today. When we came into this year, I said I was certain that it would continue the year would continue to bring a normal mix of headwinds and tailwinds. And while the CDK outage was far from a normal headwind, as I said in my early comments, I consider the operational impact of the CKD incident is now behind us as we exit July. Speaker 300:41:49And obviously, our daily focus is on fully rebuilding the momentum that we lost and regaining, any share that we lost particularly in that last period of June. I'd like to thank all of our associates and employees in the business, not just for their response to the outage, but also for the work that they've done creating the momentum that we saw through May. It's a pleasure to be in the same organization as you. Thank you for what you do every day. Thank you everyone. Operator00:42:20This concludes today's AutoNation 2nd quarter call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by