NYSE:BALY Bally's Q2 2024 Earnings Report $11.18 -0.06 (-0.49%) As of 02:43 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Bally's EPS ResultsActual EPS-$1.24Consensus EPS -$1.47Beat/MissBeat by +$0.23One Year Ago EPS-$0.25Bally's Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$621.66 millionExpected Revenue$641.17 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$19.51 millionYoY Revenue Growth+2.50%Bally's Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date7/31/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, July 31, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsBally's' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, May 12, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, May 14, 2025 at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Bally's Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 31, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Bally's Corporation Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. And if you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Operator00:00:30Charlie Dow, Senior Vice President and Treasurer for Bally's. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:34Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us on today's call. The earnings release and presentation that accompany this call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website at www.allys.com. With me today are our Chief Executive Officer, Robeson Reeves our President, George Papineer and our Chief Financial Officer, Marcus Glover. Before we begin, we would like to remind everyone that comments made by management today will contain forward looking statements. These forward looking statements include plans, expectations, estimates and projections that involve significant risks and uncertainties. Speaker 100:01:24These risks are discussed in the company's earnings release and SEC filings. Financial results may differ materially from the results management will refer to certain non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the schedules contained in our earnings release. We do not provide a reconciliation of forward looking non GAAP financial measures due to our inability to project non recurring expenses and one time costs. Finally, I also want to note that we will not be answering questions regarding the press release issued on July 25, 2024, which describes the merger agreement between Bally's and Casino Queen, an affiliate of Standard General, as well as the special committee's unanimous recommendation of the merger with cash consideration of $18.25 per share and the opportunity for rollover election by The combined company will remain a publicly traded registrant under the Securities Act. Speaker 100:02:50We plan to provide an investor presentation on our website at a later date and note that a proxy statement will be filed with the SEC within 45 days of last week's announcement. This call is also being broadcast live on our Investors website and will be available for replay shortly after the completion of this call. With that, I will turn the call to Rudolfson Reeves, our CEO. Speaker 200:03:20Thank you, Charlie. We're pleased to have you join us today to discuss Vale's 24 second quarter results and provide updates on the long term growth prospects for our 3 business segments. 2nd quarter revenues increased 3% year over year reaching 622,000,000 dollars reflecting growth in 2 of our 3 segments. Our Casino and Resort segment saw a 3% increase in revenue, while revenue from North America Interactive segment grew a substantial 95%. In the UK, our business continues to perform very strongly, generating a 9% revenue growth increase, while our International Interactive segment saw an overall 7% revenue decline due to our non UK operations. Speaker 200:04:09Despite the full segment revenue decline, adjusted EBITDA margins improved approximately 130 basis points year over year. We continue to benefit from the measures we rolled out ahead of the UK white paper implementation and looking forward to the benefits from online sports betting following the soft launch during the quarter. I'll begin today's call with a discussion of Bali's recent announcements before touching on our development pipeline and our interactive businesses. I'll then hand the call over to George, who will discuss our C and R business and to Marcus, who will provide a more detailed analysis of our quarterly financial performance. As everyone is aware, subsequent to the end of the quarter, we entered into a binding term sheet, the 940,000,000 dollars strategic construction and financing arrangement with gaming and leisure properties, which includes funding to complete construction of our flagship permanent casino in Chicago. Speaker 200:05:14With GLPI, we also entered a sale leaseback transaction for Bally's Kansas City and Shreveport for $395,000,000 and modified our sale leaseback agreement of our Lincoln property, bringing the total transaction to over $2,000,000,000 This is a key milestone for our Chicago development. George will go into this in more detail, but suffice to say, we are now fully ready to plant our flag in the heart of the city with our Bally's Casino Chicago permanent resort. This permanent resort will benefit from the ongoing ramp of our temporary facility as we are building and evolving customer relationships and establishing our presence with the city's various stakeholders while gaining additional valuable insights into the market. Though we won't be taking questions regarding this on today's call, I want to address last week's announcement that the company has entered into a definitive merger agreement with the Queen Casino and Entertainment Inc, regional casino operator with 4 casinos in 3 states. This merger will expand our platform and databases while further diversifying the markets in which we operate. Speaker 200:06:36Moreover, combining the Queen Casino and entertainment development pipeline with our own current growth initiatives provides a clear path to increased revenue, cash flow and value accretion for the company. Turning to Las Vegas. We're moving forward with the demolition of the Tropicana and expect the planned implosion of the hotel tower to occur in October. We remain on track to hand over the 9 acre portion of the site to MLB's athletics, who plan to begin construction of their new stadium in 2025. Importantly, we continue to assess our options for the highly valuable lands next to the stadium. Speaker 200:07:20In New York, it appears submission process will occur in June of 'twenty five with the winner to be announced in early 'twenty six. We remain extremely excited by the opportunity to develop a world class integrated resort adjacent to Bally's Links at Ferry Point in the Bronx, which will add yet another must see destination in the Big Apple. With all that said, I'll now turn my attention to our International Interactive and North America Interactive segments. Within International Interactive, we continue to generate strong results from the UK business where we're taking share benefiting from strategies to acquire customers in a cost effective manner. The soft launch of online sports betting in the market will prove to be an additional channel for customer acquisition and growth, and we are looking forward to the full scale benefits of this product as the year progresses. Speaker 200:08:22Outside of the UK, we're working within our strategy maximizing profit yield and reducing uneconomic marketing. In Asia, we continue to manage through some issues, which are impacting business volumes. While we had seen signs that the region was beginning to stabilize, it now appears likely that challenges will remain for the foreseeable future. It is our view that over time, Asia will stabilize and return to growth. Across Europe, we've seen some growing traction for our offerings, including improvement in Spain following the lifting of advertising restrictions. Speaker 200:09:06Our North America Interactive segment again delivered a very strong quarter as we benefited from a full quarter of iGaming in Rhode Island, which launched in March and continued success with our operations in both New Jersey and Pennsylvania. In the quarter, we generated approximately $6,700,000 in net gaming revenue in Rhode Island. This market is still very much in the early innings of its growth trajectory as it only launched in March. Furthermore, with the ongoing successful rollout of Ballybets across our markets, we're generating improved volumes and profitability, particularly as the transition onto Kamby and WhiteHat platforms has gone a good customer feedback and helped us differentiate our offering. We expect to launch sports in additional 4 states in the second half of the year and continue to plant the seeds for expanded iGaming across our geographies. Speaker 200:10:09Please remember as you model our North America Interactive results over the balance of the year, we continue to expect to incur an adjusted EBITDA loss of better than $30,000,000 in $24,000,000 with losses decreasing in a nonlinear fashion. With that, I have a few closing comments before turning it over to George for further details on our operational performance over the last quarter. We have delivered the funding for our Chicago permanent casino resort. We will continue to diligently deliver our development pipeline, including our route to profitability in North America Interactive. And we will maintain our focus on core profitability and growth from C and R and our International Interactive segments. Speaker 200:10:59We look forward to sharing additional milestones with you all again soon. George? Speaker 300:11:06Thanks, Lucie. I'll begin my remarks on C and R with a look at our headline results and some comments on several of our markets before diving into Chicago and the meaningful progress we're making there. The Casino and Resorts segment delivered revenue growth of 3% in the quarter, driven by the continued ramp in Chicago and general stability across our portfolio with some exceptions. Visitation to our Rhode Island properties, particularly Lincoln, was again impacted by the Providence Bridge disruption on Interstate 195, the critical connection between Rhode Island and Massachusetts. This has led the lane closures that disrupt traffic during peak periods, a situation which will continue for the foreseeable future. Speaker 300:11:52During the quarter, we also saw some elevated promotional activity from Massachusetts operators that we believe had an incremental impact on our business. Despite this, we're confident that volumes will return once construction is completed given our recently refreshed amenities and overall superior product and player loyalty. Atlantic City had a somewhat difficult quarter as we were impacted by turnover in our relationship marketing team. We are working aggressively to reestablish ourselves with those players and have introduced a new relationship team to drive incremental and new customer visitation. Unfortunately, the timing of this was particularly impactful as it came heading into Atlantic City's peak season. Speaker 300:12:36Aside from these challenges, our property portfolio continues to perform well relative to expectations and is benefiting from what remains a relatively healthy consumer, particularly in the mid and upper end segments of our database. Though as you've surely seen and heard from our gaming peers and from other consumer discretionary businesses, we are watching the lower end closely as we are seeing some signs of spending fatigue. That said, we are in the process of taking several actions to offset some of the top line challenges I mentioned and hold the line on profitability. Moving on to Chicago, we are progressing on two fronts following the recent $940,000,000 funding commitment we received from gaming and leisure properties. Thanks to our alliance with GLPI, there is now no doubt that Valley's Chicago Casino and Hotel is coming to the banks of the Chicago River. Speaker 300:13:32We are committed to bringing the project to life as part of a single phase development plan that features a reimagined and elevated design that ties nicely to the Chicago skyline. We remain on schedule to deliver a casino with roughly 3,300 slots, 170 plus table games, a 500 room hotel tower, 3,000 seat theater, 6 restaurants, cafes, a food hall and a 2 acre public park by the second half of twenty twenty six. Our team is working closely with city officials to secure their approval of the new site plan and architectural drawings. At the same time, demolition is underway as we begin to clear the Tribune Company's existing footprint from the site. With the updated site plan and shift to a single phase of construction, the budget for hard construction costs is now roughly $1,300,000,000 with the majority of these costs expected to be incurred over 2025 2026. Speaker 300:14:38This is a very exciting time for our company and we are delighted to be working hand in hand with our development partner GLPI to bring our vision to life. While development of the permanent facility ramps up, we continue to ramp up operations at our temporary facility while expanding our customer database and developing key relationships with players and other Chicago stakeholders. Admissions reached nearly 120,000 visitors in June and we have now surpassed 1,000,000 total visitors to date. Our database has grown to exceed 100,000 players. As I said on our last call, each day our team is gaining a deeper understanding of our customers and putting this knowledge to work as a temporary facility, while we develop our plans for the permanent facility once it opens. Speaker 300:15:27Valley service began in late Q2, the healthy customer feedback and we've successfully expanded our bus routes to the property from various areas of the city with ridership up 15% over the last quarter. In addition, our VIP lounge opens this week, which we believe leads to stronger play with the key customer demographic. Turning to Las Vegas. Demolition of the Tropicana is underway and we are planning to bring the hotel tower down in October. This work is on track to allow the A's begin their stadium development next year ahead of their relocation to Las Vegas for the 2028 Major League Baseball season. Speaker 300:16:10At the same time, we continue to evaluate development options for the remainder of the 36 Acres and remain optimistic about the possibilities for this site. Finally, a note on New York. The process for awarding the downstate license remains fluid, but we are now assuming the license will be awarded in the Q1 of 2026. We believe our site at Valley's Gulf Lakes at Ferry Point is superior to the sites offered by our competitors as we think the economic benefit to that area of New York will more positively impact the lives of many local residents through direct jobs and our proposed resort and through the vendors that will service our facility. With that, now let me turn it over to Marcus. Speaker 400:16:59Thanks, George. As Robson and George highlighted, we had a good 2024 second quarter across the board despite several market specific headwinds. 2nd quarter revenues on a consolidated basis increased by 3% year on year to $622,000,000 with gains in 2 of our 3 operating segments. Revenue for our Casino and Resort segment rose to $343,100,000 up 3% as strength in many of our markets was impacted by the one off headwinds in Rhode Island and Atlantic City. Adjusted EBITDAR for this segment was approximately 100,000,000 dollars a 10% decrease from the previous year due to largely to the aforementioned market specific issues. Speaker 400:17:43Segment margins of 29% were closer to 36% when excluding our Atlantic City and Chicago operations along with the ongoing wind down of the trough. As George mentioned, we are actively taking steps across our C and R portfolio to expand margins and enhance profitability, all while continuing to grow the business. Within International Interactive, the UK remains the crown jewel with revenues increasing 9% year over year in U. S. Dollars and by 8% on a constant currency basis. Speaker 400:18:16For the segment overall, revenues declined 7% year over year to $229,000,000 primarily due to some softness in our non U. K. Operations. Despite this, segment adjusted EBITDAR margins expanded 130 basis points to 35%, leading to segment adjusted EBITDAR of 81,000,000 a decline of 4% year over year on the back of strong U. K. Speaker 400:18:39Profitability. North America Interactive generated revenue of $49,200,000 dollars a 95% year over year improvement. The segment generated an adjusted EBITDAR loss of approximately 7,000,000 dollars as we benefited from a strong start to iGaming in Rhode Island and a solid online sports betting results. We continue to expand losses to narrow as the year progresses, driven by our strong iGaming position in New Jersey, Pennsylvania and now Rhode Island and the continued improvement in our Valley Bed operations. Turning to our capital structure. Speaker 400:19:14At the end of the quarter, shares outstanding were approximately $40,000,000 with incremental warrants, options and other dilution representing approximately 13,000,000 shares. We ended the quarter with $155,000,000 of cash on our balance sheet and $3,580,000,000 of net debt. Shifting to our outlook for the remainder of the year, recall we guided 2024 revenues to a range of $2,500,000,000 to 2,700,000,000 dollars and adjusted EBITDAR to a range of $655,000,000 to $695,000,000 Given the performance in the first half of the year in our casino and resort segment and headwinds in certain international interactive markets excluding the U. K, we believe achieving the lower end of this range is most likely. This outlook incorporates similar trends in casino and resorts, the UK remaining strong and North America Interactive continuing its path of operational improvements. Speaker 400:20:10Additionally, we are reducing our CapEx spend to approximately $115,000,000 for the year, down from our initial estimate of approximately 165,000,000 dollars This excludes spending in Chicago and Tropicana. In closing, we are excited by the number of growth opportunities in front of Valley and optimistic that we are putting into place the right operating processes to further improve our existing businesses. Furthermore, we are delighted to strengthen our alliance with our partners at GOPI to bring our new permanent Chicago casino to life. At this time, we will now open the call for questions and answers. Operator? Operator00:20:46Thank you, Mr. Glover. We will go first this afternoon to Barry Jonas of Truist. Speaker 500:21:05Hey, guys. This is Praveen Sabani. I'm on for Barry. Thanks for taking our question. For just got a quick 2 parter. Speaker 500:21:13There's a new kind of post deal structure change, anything operationally or strategically for you guys, Persin? So are there any synergies that we should be thinking about between assets? And are there any kind of assets that you would deem non core to the strategy at this stage? Speaker 400:21:30Can you repeat the second part of that? The second question, I'm sorry. I just want to make sure we Yes, sure. Speaker 500:21:37Yes, just asking are there any assets that you guys have right now that you deem kind of non core to your existing strategy? Speaker 400:21:46You guys want Speaker 100:21:48to? No. I don't think there's anything that's non core within our strategy. Speaker 400:21:56Yes. And in terms of the merger agreement, I think it's a little bit early to speak on synergies. As we mentioned starting off the call, we're not going to spend any time really addressing that merger deal. There is obviously a diligence phase that needs to be conducted. And obviously, we want to pay proper respect to the regulatory process and get through the proxy before commenting further on that. Speaker 500:22:21Got it. Makes sense. If I can sneak in a quick follow-up. Pennsylvania Springs Court upheld your casino license for the Nittany Mall. Just wanted to see how you're thinking about developing that property following the decision? Speaker 300:22:39Hey, Dylan, this is George. Yes, obviously the lawsuits are behind us. We're now focused on going through the process and obtaining the appropriate approvals with the PGT. So we're focused on that and timing of construction probably won't be until the first half of twenty twenty five at this point. Speaker 100:23:02As part of the transaction, obviously this is staged relative to arranging the financing for that. So now that the court has ruled, we are now going through the whole developmental underwriting process and how we plan for that. Speaker 600:23:20Got it. Thanks so much for taking our questions. Appreciate it. Operator00:23:26Thank you. We'll go next now to Jeff Stanchal at Stifel. Speaker 700:23:31Great. Thanks. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking our questions. Maybe starting off here on casinos and resorts, lots of process here with some of the various headwinds that you cited in the press release and in the prepared remarks. Speaker 700:23:44I was wondering if you could just quantify the total sum of the impact that you saw across Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Atlantic City? And really what I'm driving at here is I'm just curious what you think segment adjusted EBITDAR would have grown at absent these more one time headwinds and maybe on a same store basis for Chicago and Tropicana as well? A bit of a tricky exercise recognizing that. Just any color you can provide there would help. Speaker 400:24:14Thanks. Yes. Jeff, I'll probably break those up. A lot in that question, you spoke to 3 I think I heard 3 different markets. And so probably ought to make sense to it probably makes sense to address Rhode Island independent and then AC a little bit separately because all of the headwinds that we acknowledged were a little bit different. Speaker 400:24:32I'll start in Rhode Island and then George can jump in and add some color commentary. In terms of quantification of the traffic, I should say traffic impact more than the bridge, because there's still traffic flowing through. It's just constrained a bit and creates some inconvenience. You're probably looking at somewhere in the, I'd say, 12% to 15%, maybe slightly above that impact. There are some other regional nuance, if you will, on what I would consider to be irrational kind of competitor behavior. Speaker 400:25:07And so we're seeing some heightened reinvestment. So that's Rhode Island. Atlantic City, George can touch on a little bit more, but we going through a little bit of property reinvention in terms of redefining our VIP relationships with the whole staff. We lost some key folks on that team and repositioning the property a little bit and revitalizing those relationships. I'll let George touch on those 2 and then he can finish up with Chicago if he has some different thoughts. Speaker 300:25:40Yes. I think the one thing we missed is the impact of Tropicana with that. I think year over year, I think it was about $4,000,000 worth of EBITDAR impact. So from a same store perspective that obviously had a little bit of an impact on us. Yes, I think Marcus is right. Speaker 300:26:01I mean, we've clearly seeing an impact from the road closure. It's not really been in our rate of play. Our rate of play, we're continuing to sustain the ability to continue to motivate the customer, but we are seeing a decline in non rated play. I think it's about probably within the range that Marcus described. So we're still trying to for solutions as it relates to that, providing different options from a customer perspective. Speaker 300:26:30So unfortunately with that, we're going to continue to deal with that most likely into 2027 now is kind of what we're hearing. So we'll be attempting to mitigate that in other ways. What was the other one? Speaker 400:26:45Chicago. Speaker 300:26:50Yes. Chicago, so that's still we're still ramping that property. We're focused really is on Speaker 400:26:58continuing to motivate database growth. Speaker 300:26:58If you just look at we've grown we've grown GDR 40% in Q2 versus Q4. So we're continuing to build momentum there. It's just taking a little bit longer to ramp that property. We're over 100,000 people in the database. That's actually 100% growth since Q4. Speaker 300:27:26So again, our focus and our priorities continue to grow that database as we continue to work our way towards the opening of our Corona facility. Speaker 400:27:36And just to finish that off, Jeff, as you can see from our commentary, Chicago continues to progress, as George stated. We're being intentional with nurturing the existing customer base as well as continuing to try to fill the funnel with new introductions and relationships with consumers in that market. Margin will come as we continue to mature as a property. But right now, the idea is we are laying the foundation for our permanent casino that will come Q3 of 2026. And so the idea is we're going to continue to build that business and make sure that we drive top line knowing we'll eventually get to a better place on the margin. Speaker 700:28:19Great. That's really helpful. Thank you for all that color. And then maybe for my follow-up question, turning over to the International Interactive business. Robison, can you just add a bit more color to what you're seeing currently in Japan, that I believe you referenced in the prepared remarks. Speaker 700:28:35Is this mostly a function of the government cracking down on your payments and kind of other providers? Is there something else structural that's driving negative constant currency revenue growth? And then how much has the devaluation in the yen played a role here? Just any additional color you can provide there would be great. Thanks. Speaker 200:28:57Thank you, Jeff. Well, it's good to acknowledge the devaluation of the yen. Some of the government impacts has largely driven sentiment. So it's more of a demand. So the audiences capturing new audience has been more challenging. Speaker 200:29:14That's actually been the real issue. That has definitely stalled all the sort of willingness to play. Every time historically we've seen this, we've seen demands come back and it ebbs and flows. But yes, only really a demand basis. The model still works. Speaker 200:29:34It still converts. What we've shown that even with revenue decline there, we're still able to convert fairly efficiently down to an EBITDA level. So we've got Speaker 100:29:47the levers to pull. Speaker 200:29:49I would say that the reason why some margins aren't as high, particularly as you would expect, given how much we're converting revenue to EBITDA in Japan. We're actually investing in growth. So we're actually spending a bit more on brand in other markets such as the U. K. Because we're seeing opportunities there and we think we can grow very consistently in that market. Speaker 200:30:21I can give you more color about the U. K. If you can, Steven. Speaker 700:30:25Yes, sure. And then actually before we turn to the U. K, I just want to be crystal clear on one thing with Japan. When you talk about more of a sentiment impact and player demand, I guess, are you referring to players becoming fearful of, I guess, the kind of pseudo gray and potential legal action? Are you more referring to wealth effect with anything priced in non yen being more expensive for them currently or I guess both? Speaker 200:30:52It's so yes, things are more expensive for these people because of the weakening in the yen. It's not as large an audience searching for the product as previously seen. So when you actually look at search volumes, there's less engagement there. Again, that can either be driven by sentiment in the market, but it also can be driven by essentially the cost of entertainment becoming higher because the weakening at the end. So you'll spend much more in your local currency. Speaker 700:31:23Okay. That's great. And then I think you did not to get crude here, but I think you did mention potentially some color on UK as well. So that offers to hold for the we'd love to hear a little more on Speaker 300:31:34UK as well. Speaker 200:31:35Yes, sure. So we've been spending more money on brand advertising, so really trying to get the brand out there. Typically, that's less effective from a performance marketing point of view, but we really want to invest in making sure that some of our brands such as Virgin and Bally's grow in the market. Bally's is doing pretty well. Think it's record month and revenues, it's been growing consistently now. Speaker 200:32:03That's all about having highly accurate marketing. We've definitely improved that code base of our native applications in that market, which has made it easier to drive a better customer experience. And we've massively advanced our real time monitoring and player management. So that both helps us from communicating to our players in a near real time fashion, I mean sort of split seconds. That also helps from a regulatory perspective and actually that's been great because we're working very closely with UK Gambling Commission. Speaker 200:32:40That relationship Speaker 300:32:42is constructive. Speaker 200:32:44The reason why I say the business is sustainable and I'm very confident of the future is the systems we're putting in place means that we have good play, it's safe play and that means that players are staying with us for longer, engaging with us, which is great given our revenue growth. Speaker 700:33:07Great. Thanks, Robert. Appreciate the additional color there. I'll pass it on. Speaker 100:33:12Thank you, Jeff. Operator00:33:15Thank you. We go next now to Chad Beynon of Macquarie. Speaker 800:33:20Afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Robison, on the North American Interactive business, I think you mentioned that we should still expect a $30,000,000 loss for the year, and that's not going to be linear in the back half obviously. There's some seasonality in a number of different factors. So maybe a 2 parter on that. Speaker 800:33:42I guess, firstly, on the cost side, I believe even though you're transitioning to Cambie and WhiteHat, there were some extra costs just in terms of 2 different stacks that you were running on. So I guess first question, can you kind of give us an update in terms of where the cost structure is? And then secondly, more importantly, can you give us some additional commentary in terms of timing of different states, kind of how you're thinking about customer acquisition or cross sell, maybe just some milestones as we get deeper into 2024? Thanks. Speaker 200:34:22Sure. So thank you, Chad. We just recently launched in Maryland with OSB. We've got a few other sports launches coming through the course of the year. I'll call out the easier well, the simpler ones, which are pure OSB, which are Illinois and Tennessee. Speaker 200:34:41The change from our technology stacks is incomplete. So we're currently still running both the WhiteHat PAM and the proprietary Bally's Pam in North America. During Q4, that will be replaced across Ontario, Pennsylvania and New Jersey. In both Ontario and New Jersey, we'll introduce OSB, which will help us from an acquisition perspective to help gain extra revenue. And also, yes, it will save on some marketing costs. Speaker 200:35:20But more importantly, it simplifies how our operational teams can work as there's one back office tool, there'll be one set of tooling. So these people actually have a far better life and we have a simpler solution to keep on scaling in a more cost effective way. I'm happy with our progress. I guess the standout is probably Pennsylvania where we continue to gain share. We'll do much more to make sure we're optimizing our product mix between slots and table games as the varying tax rates make a big difference to your EBITDA conversion of revenue. Speaker 800:35:59That's great. Thank you very much. And then separately on the CapEx reduction, can you just provide some color in terms of was this more maintenance CapEx, the reduction, smaller projects and why you're bringing that down at this point? Speaker 400:36:20Yes, it was a combination of the 2. Most of it was some small expansion projects at different properties that we reevaluated and want to make sure that we put a little bit more thought process to each of those projects before bringing those online. And so looking at where we are, spending a little more time with the operational team and fully rounding out our thought process around that allowed us to spend a little more time evaluating. Speaker 800:36:49Perfect. Thanks, Marcus. Appreciate it. Operator00:36:58We'll go next now to Jonathan Navarat at TD Cowen. Speaker 600:37:03Thank you. And good afternoon, everyone. Just, George, I think you mentioned that, the database in Chicago doubled since December, right? Speaker 300:37:16That's right. We're at 100,000 now. Speaker 600:37:19Right. That's good. And could you just let me know what are the revenue EBITDA run rates at the Chicago facility right now? Speaker 300:37:29Yes. So the revenue run rates that we I think I have to get accuracy on that, but I think we're from a GGR perspective, we're at around $13,000,000 on GGR tables and slots. Speaker 600:37:46And Speaker 300:37:48we had our peak performance in May, typically from seasonal perspective is peak. June was a little flash, but that's more calendar. And then we continue So it also took 50% when it's now in June July. Yes, I'm talking to GDS. Yes. Speaker 300:38:05So I think when you look at us compared to the market, we're continuing to make we're continuing to grow. I think we're number 2 in table games and we're continuing maybe number 4 now in slots, I believe. So So we're just continuing to grow. But again, I mentioned earlier that our focus really is on growing database. We just want to just open up the funnel at the top and get as many people in that database, which gives us the ability to market to obviously once the permanent opens. Speaker 600:38:41Got it. And I may have missed it, but anything on EBITDA run rate? Speaker 100:38:48We're not really doing that at this point in time. Speaker 600:38:51Okay. And lastly for me is, how much in terms of EBITDA did the Rhode Island Bridge closure cost the company this quarter? And can we expect somewhat of a similar impact for the remaining two quarters should that bridge remain closed or rather congested for the remainder of the year? Speaker 300:39:14We calculate about $2,000,000 on a quarterly basis right now. So a little over $500,000 a month from an EBITDA perspective. Speaker 600:39:25Got it. Thank you. Operator00:39:30We'll go next now to Colin Mansfield at CBRE Institutional Research. Speaker 900:39:36Hi, everybody. Thanks for taking my question and congratulations on securing the financing for the Chicago project. Maybe a couple from our side just on Chicago. I guess the approval process you mentioned that you're going through with the city right now on the new design. What are your expectations for how long that's going to take? Speaker 900:39:58Is there anything potentially that could take a while that this could potentially slow down how you're thinking about the cadence of construction? Or is there any risk that I think the target date of September 2026 for the opening, is there anything with this process that could potentially put that in jeopardy? Speaker 100:40:18Let me take a shot at it. Look, obviously, it's a totally new design and the set of circumstances we have to get the specifications and engineering, all the documentation that the department of buildings will be able to Speaker 300:40:30approve. Speaker 100:40:32It has been the new design, additional towers that has resonated with Citi. I mean, if you look at the press, I think there's consistent degree of support for that. But practically, there are certain things that we can't do until we actually have that approved. But there are with our partner GLPI, there's things like certain supplies that have either long lead times or to get going like buying concrete, buying materials, steel to the degree that you don't have to buy 100% first. You can do that over time. Speaker 100:41:10And we are trying to do everything we can to make sure that we are able to do things in parallel while we're waiting for those approvals. And the so the near term spending may move a little bit to the right, but relative to we will open by September 2026. Speaker 900:41:35Okay, great. Thanks for the color there. And then just maybe one modeling question from us. Of the about $170,000,000 of restricted cash that you guys disclosed, can you just remind us how much of that is actually down at the Chicago subsidiary? Speaker 100:41:54There was $58,000,000 in that that got released on 5 days later because $50,000,000 for the final payment to the Tribune and then $8,000,000 was accumulated cash COOP or interest banks actually pay interest these days and those were released with that. So the $171,000,000 would be $58,000,000 less 6 days later. Speaker 900:42:22Okay, great. Thanks everybody. Operator00:42:27And gentlemen, it appears we have no further questions this afternoon. I'd like turn the conference back to you, members of management for any closing comments. Speaker 200:42:36Yes. So everyone, thank you for joining us again. Let me give a few extra comments. Just as a reminder, we have delivered on the funding that we promised for our Chicago permanent casino resort. We'll continue to diligently deliver our development pipeline and that includes delivering a route to profitability for North America Interactive. Speaker 200:42:59And we'll continue to nail our core profitability across our C and R and international interactive segments. So great to hear from you all. You'll hear from us again soon. See you. Bye bye. Operator00:43:16Thank you, Mr. Reeves. Ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude today's Bally's Corporation's Q2 earnings conference call. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Bally's Corporation Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. And if you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Operator00:00:30Charlie Dow, Senior Vice President and Treasurer for Bally's. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:34Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us on today's call. The earnings release and presentation that accompany this call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website at www.allys.com. With me today are our Chief Executive Officer, Robeson Reeves our President, George Papineer and our Chief Financial Officer, Marcus Glover. Before we begin, we would like to remind everyone that comments made by management today will contain forward looking statements. These forward looking statements include plans, expectations, estimates and projections that involve significant risks and uncertainties. Speaker 100:01:24These risks are discussed in the company's earnings release and SEC filings. Financial results may differ materially from the results management will refer to certain non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the schedules contained in our earnings release. We do not provide a reconciliation of forward looking non GAAP financial measures due to our inability to project non recurring expenses and one time costs. Finally, I also want to note that we will not be answering questions regarding the press release issued on July 25, 2024, which describes the merger agreement between Bally's and Casino Queen, an affiliate of Standard General, as well as the special committee's unanimous recommendation of the merger with cash consideration of $18.25 per share and the opportunity for rollover election by The combined company will remain a publicly traded registrant under the Securities Act. Speaker 100:02:50We plan to provide an investor presentation on our website at a later date and note that a proxy statement will be filed with the SEC within 45 days of last week's announcement. This call is also being broadcast live on our Investors website and will be available for replay shortly after the completion of this call. With that, I will turn the call to Rudolfson Reeves, our CEO. Speaker 200:03:20Thank you, Charlie. We're pleased to have you join us today to discuss Vale's 24 second quarter results and provide updates on the long term growth prospects for our 3 business segments. 2nd quarter revenues increased 3% year over year reaching 622,000,000 dollars reflecting growth in 2 of our 3 segments. Our Casino and Resort segment saw a 3% increase in revenue, while revenue from North America Interactive segment grew a substantial 95%. In the UK, our business continues to perform very strongly, generating a 9% revenue growth increase, while our International Interactive segment saw an overall 7% revenue decline due to our non UK operations. Speaker 200:04:09Despite the full segment revenue decline, adjusted EBITDA margins improved approximately 130 basis points year over year. We continue to benefit from the measures we rolled out ahead of the UK white paper implementation and looking forward to the benefits from online sports betting following the soft launch during the quarter. I'll begin today's call with a discussion of Bali's recent announcements before touching on our development pipeline and our interactive businesses. I'll then hand the call over to George, who will discuss our C and R business and to Marcus, who will provide a more detailed analysis of our quarterly financial performance. As everyone is aware, subsequent to the end of the quarter, we entered into a binding term sheet, the 940,000,000 dollars strategic construction and financing arrangement with gaming and leisure properties, which includes funding to complete construction of our flagship permanent casino in Chicago. Speaker 200:05:14With GLPI, we also entered a sale leaseback transaction for Bally's Kansas City and Shreveport for $395,000,000 and modified our sale leaseback agreement of our Lincoln property, bringing the total transaction to over $2,000,000,000 This is a key milestone for our Chicago development. George will go into this in more detail, but suffice to say, we are now fully ready to plant our flag in the heart of the city with our Bally's Casino Chicago permanent resort. This permanent resort will benefit from the ongoing ramp of our temporary facility as we are building and evolving customer relationships and establishing our presence with the city's various stakeholders while gaining additional valuable insights into the market. Though we won't be taking questions regarding this on today's call, I want to address last week's announcement that the company has entered into a definitive merger agreement with the Queen Casino and Entertainment Inc, regional casino operator with 4 casinos in 3 states. This merger will expand our platform and databases while further diversifying the markets in which we operate. Speaker 200:06:36Moreover, combining the Queen Casino and entertainment development pipeline with our own current growth initiatives provides a clear path to increased revenue, cash flow and value accretion for the company. Turning to Las Vegas. We're moving forward with the demolition of the Tropicana and expect the planned implosion of the hotel tower to occur in October. We remain on track to hand over the 9 acre portion of the site to MLB's athletics, who plan to begin construction of their new stadium in 2025. Importantly, we continue to assess our options for the highly valuable lands next to the stadium. Speaker 200:07:20In New York, it appears submission process will occur in June of 'twenty five with the winner to be announced in early 'twenty six. We remain extremely excited by the opportunity to develop a world class integrated resort adjacent to Bally's Links at Ferry Point in the Bronx, which will add yet another must see destination in the Big Apple. With all that said, I'll now turn my attention to our International Interactive and North America Interactive segments. Within International Interactive, we continue to generate strong results from the UK business where we're taking share benefiting from strategies to acquire customers in a cost effective manner. The soft launch of online sports betting in the market will prove to be an additional channel for customer acquisition and growth, and we are looking forward to the full scale benefits of this product as the year progresses. Speaker 200:08:22Outside of the UK, we're working within our strategy maximizing profit yield and reducing uneconomic marketing. In Asia, we continue to manage through some issues, which are impacting business volumes. While we had seen signs that the region was beginning to stabilize, it now appears likely that challenges will remain for the foreseeable future. It is our view that over time, Asia will stabilize and return to growth. Across Europe, we've seen some growing traction for our offerings, including improvement in Spain following the lifting of advertising restrictions. Speaker 200:09:06Our North America Interactive segment again delivered a very strong quarter as we benefited from a full quarter of iGaming in Rhode Island, which launched in March and continued success with our operations in both New Jersey and Pennsylvania. In the quarter, we generated approximately $6,700,000 in net gaming revenue in Rhode Island. This market is still very much in the early innings of its growth trajectory as it only launched in March. Furthermore, with the ongoing successful rollout of Ballybets across our markets, we're generating improved volumes and profitability, particularly as the transition onto Kamby and WhiteHat platforms has gone a good customer feedback and helped us differentiate our offering. We expect to launch sports in additional 4 states in the second half of the year and continue to plant the seeds for expanded iGaming across our geographies. Speaker 200:10:09Please remember as you model our North America Interactive results over the balance of the year, we continue to expect to incur an adjusted EBITDA loss of better than $30,000,000 in $24,000,000 with losses decreasing in a nonlinear fashion. With that, I have a few closing comments before turning it over to George for further details on our operational performance over the last quarter. We have delivered the funding for our Chicago permanent casino resort. We will continue to diligently deliver our development pipeline, including our route to profitability in North America Interactive. And we will maintain our focus on core profitability and growth from C and R and our International Interactive segments. Speaker 200:10:59We look forward to sharing additional milestones with you all again soon. George? Speaker 300:11:06Thanks, Lucie. I'll begin my remarks on C and R with a look at our headline results and some comments on several of our markets before diving into Chicago and the meaningful progress we're making there. The Casino and Resorts segment delivered revenue growth of 3% in the quarter, driven by the continued ramp in Chicago and general stability across our portfolio with some exceptions. Visitation to our Rhode Island properties, particularly Lincoln, was again impacted by the Providence Bridge disruption on Interstate 195, the critical connection between Rhode Island and Massachusetts. This has led the lane closures that disrupt traffic during peak periods, a situation which will continue for the foreseeable future. Speaker 300:11:52During the quarter, we also saw some elevated promotional activity from Massachusetts operators that we believe had an incremental impact on our business. Despite this, we're confident that volumes will return once construction is completed given our recently refreshed amenities and overall superior product and player loyalty. Atlantic City had a somewhat difficult quarter as we were impacted by turnover in our relationship marketing team. We are working aggressively to reestablish ourselves with those players and have introduced a new relationship team to drive incremental and new customer visitation. Unfortunately, the timing of this was particularly impactful as it came heading into Atlantic City's peak season. Speaker 300:12:36Aside from these challenges, our property portfolio continues to perform well relative to expectations and is benefiting from what remains a relatively healthy consumer, particularly in the mid and upper end segments of our database. Though as you've surely seen and heard from our gaming peers and from other consumer discretionary businesses, we are watching the lower end closely as we are seeing some signs of spending fatigue. That said, we are in the process of taking several actions to offset some of the top line challenges I mentioned and hold the line on profitability. Moving on to Chicago, we are progressing on two fronts following the recent $940,000,000 funding commitment we received from gaming and leisure properties. Thanks to our alliance with GLPI, there is now no doubt that Valley's Chicago Casino and Hotel is coming to the banks of the Chicago River. Speaker 300:13:32We are committed to bringing the project to life as part of a single phase development plan that features a reimagined and elevated design that ties nicely to the Chicago skyline. We remain on schedule to deliver a casino with roughly 3,300 slots, 170 plus table games, a 500 room hotel tower, 3,000 seat theater, 6 restaurants, cafes, a food hall and a 2 acre public park by the second half of twenty twenty six. Our team is working closely with city officials to secure their approval of the new site plan and architectural drawings. At the same time, demolition is underway as we begin to clear the Tribune Company's existing footprint from the site. With the updated site plan and shift to a single phase of construction, the budget for hard construction costs is now roughly $1,300,000,000 with the majority of these costs expected to be incurred over 2025 2026. Speaker 300:14:38This is a very exciting time for our company and we are delighted to be working hand in hand with our development partner GLPI to bring our vision to life. While development of the permanent facility ramps up, we continue to ramp up operations at our temporary facility while expanding our customer database and developing key relationships with players and other Chicago stakeholders. Admissions reached nearly 120,000 visitors in June and we have now surpassed 1,000,000 total visitors to date. Our database has grown to exceed 100,000 players. As I said on our last call, each day our team is gaining a deeper understanding of our customers and putting this knowledge to work as a temporary facility, while we develop our plans for the permanent facility once it opens. Speaker 300:15:27Valley service began in late Q2, the healthy customer feedback and we've successfully expanded our bus routes to the property from various areas of the city with ridership up 15% over the last quarter. In addition, our VIP lounge opens this week, which we believe leads to stronger play with the key customer demographic. Turning to Las Vegas. Demolition of the Tropicana is underway and we are planning to bring the hotel tower down in October. This work is on track to allow the A's begin their stadium development next year ahead of their relocation to Las Vegas for the 2028 Major League Baseball season. Speaker 300:16:10At the same time, we continue to evaluate development options for the remainder of the 36 Acres and remain optimistic about the possibilities for this site. Finally, a note on New York. The process for awarding the downstate license remains fluid, but we are now assuming the license will be awarded in the Q1 of 2026. We believe our site at Valley's Gulf Lakes at Ferry Point is superior to the sites offered by our competitors as we think the economic benefit to that area of New York will more positively impact the lives of many local residents through direct jobs and our proposed resort and through the vendors that will service our facility. With that, now let me turn it over to Marcus. Speaker 400:16:59Thanks, George. As Robson and George highlighted, we had a good 2024 second quarter across the board despite several market specific headwinds. 2nd quarter revenues on a consolidated basis increased by 3% year on year to $622,000,000 with gains in 2 of our 3 operating segments. Revenue for our Casino and Resort segment rose to $343,100,000 up 3% as strength in many of our markets was impacted by the one off headwinds in Rhode Island and Atlantic City. Adjusted EBITDAR for this segment was approximately 100,000,000 dollars a 10% decrease from the previous year due to largely to the aforementioned market specific issues. Speaker 400:17:43Segment margins of 29% were closer to 36% when excluding our Atlantic City and Chicago operations along with the ongoing wind down of the trough. As George mentioned, we are actively taking steps across our C and R portfolio to expand margins and enhance profitability, all while continuing to grow the business. Within International Interactive, the UK remains the crown jewel with revenues increasing 9% year over year in U. S. Dollars and by 8% on a constant currency basis. Speaker 400:18:16For the segment overall, revenues declined 7% year over year to $229,000,000 primarily due to some softness in our non U. K. Operations. Despite this, segment adjusted EBITDAR margins expanded 130 basis points to 35%, leading to segment adjusted EBITDAR of 81,000,000 a decline of 4% year over year on the back of strong U. K. Speaker 400:18:39Profitability. North America Interactive generated revenue of $49,200,000 dollars a 95% year over year improvement. The segment generated an adjusted EBITDAR loss of approximately 7,000,000 dollars as we benefited from a strong start to iGaming in Rhode Island and a solid online sports betting results. We continue to expand losses to narrow as the year progresses, driven by our strong iGaming position in New Jersey, Pennsylvania and now Rhode Island and the continued improvement in our Valley Bed operations. Turning to our capital structure. Speaker 400:19:14At the end of the quarter, shares outstanding were approximately $40,000,000 with incremental warrants, options and other dilution representing approximately 13,000,000 shares. We ended the quarter with $155,000,000 of cash on our balance sheet and $3,580,000,000 of net debt. Shifting to our outlook for the remainder of the year, recall we guided 2024 revenues to a range of $2,500,000,000 to 2,700,000,000 dollars and adjusted EBITDAR to a range of $655,000,000 to $695,000,000 Given the performance in the first half of the year in our casino and resort segment and headwinds in certain international interactive markets excluding the U. K, we believe achieving the lower end of this range is most likely. This outlook incorporates similar trends in casino and resorts, the UK remaining strong and North America Interactive continuing its path of operational improvements. Speaker 400:20:10Additionally, we are reducing our CapEx spend to approximately $115,000,000 for the year, down from our initial estimate of approximately 165,000,000 dollars This excludes spending in Chicago and Tropicana. In closing, we are excited by the number of growth opportunities in front of Valley and optimistic that we are putting into place the right operating processes to further improve our existing businesses. Furthermore, we are delighted to strengthen our alliance with our partners at GOPI to bring our new permanent Chicago casino to life. At this time, we will now open the call for questions and answers. Operator? Operator00:20:46Thank you, Mr. Glover. We will go first this afternoon to Barry Jonas of Truist. Speaker 500:21:05Hey, guys. This is Praveen Sabani. I'm on for Barry. Thanks for taking our question. For just got a quick 2 parter. Speaker 500:21:13There's a new kind of post deal structure change, anything operationally or strategically for you guys, Persin? So are there any synergies that we should be thinking about between assets? And are there any kind of assets that you would deem non core to the strategy at this stage? Speaker 400:21:30Can you repeat the second part of that? The second question, I'm sorry. I just want to make sure we Yes, sure. Speaker 500:21:37Yes, just asking are there any assets that you guys have right now that you deem kind of non core to your existing strategy? Speaker 400:21:46You guys want Speaker 100:21:48to? No. I don't think there's anything that's non core within our strategy. Speaker 400:21:56Yes. And in terms of the merger agreement, I think it's a little bit early to speak on synergies. As we mentioned starting off the call, we're not going to spend any time really addressing that merger deal. There is obviously a diligence phase that needs to be conducted. And obviously, we want to pay proper respect to the regulatory process and get through the proxy before commenting further on that. Speaker 500:22:21Got it. Makes sense. If I can sneak in a quick follow-up. Pennsylvania Springs Court upheld your casino license for the Nittany Mall. Just wanted to see how you're thinking about developing that property following the decision? Speaker 300:22:39Hey, Dylan, this is George. Yes, obviously the lawsuits are behind us. We're now focused on going through the process and obtaining the appropriate approvals with the PGT. So we're focused on that and timing of construction probably won't be until the first half of twenty twenty five at this point. Speaker 100:23:02As part of the transaction, obviously this is staged relative to arranging the financing for that. So now that the court has ruled, we are now going through the whole developmental underwriting process and how we plan for that. Speaker 600:23:20Got it. Thanks so much for taking our questions. Appreciate it. Operator00:23:26Thank you. We'll go next now to Jeff Stanchal at Stifel. Speaker 700:23:31Great. Thanks. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking our questions. Maybe starting off here on casinos and resorts, lots of process here with some of the various headwinds that you cited in the press release and in the prepared remarks. Speaker 700:23:44I was wondering if you could just quantify the total sum of the impact that you saw across Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Atlantic City? And really what I'm driving at here is I'm just curious what you think segment adjusted EBITDAR would have grown at absent these more one time headwinds and maybe on a same store basis for Chicago and Tropicana as well? A bit of a tricky exercise recognizing that. Just any color you can provide there would help. Speaker 400:24:14Thanks. Yes. Jeff, I'll probably break those up. A lot in that question, you spoke to 3 I think I heard 3 different markets. And so probably ought to make sense to it probably makes sense to address Rhode Island independent and then AC a little bit separately because all of the headwinds that we acknowledged were a little bit different. Speaker 400:24:32I'll start in Rhode Island and then George can jump in and add some color commentary. In terms of quantification of the traffic, I should say traffic impact more than the bridge, because there's still traffic flowing through. It's just constrained a bit and creates some inconvenience. You're probably looking at somewhere in the, I'd say, 12% to 15%, maybe slightly above that impact. There are some other regional nuance, if you will, on what I would consider to be irrational kind of competitor behavior. Speaker 400:25:07And so we're seeing some heightened reinvestment. So that's Rhode Island. Atlantic City, George can touch on a little bit more, but we going through a little bit of property reinvention in terms of redefining our VIP relationships with the whole staff. We lost some key folks on that team and repositioning the property a little bit and revitalizing those relationships. I'll let George touch on those 2 and then he can finish up with Chicago if he has some different thoughts. Speaker 300:25:40Yes. I think the one thing we missed is the impact of Tropicana with that. I think year over year, I think it was about $4,000,000 worth of EBITDAR impact. So from a same store perspective that obviously had a little bit of an impact on us. Yes, I think Marcus is right. Speaker 300:26:01I mean, we've clearly seeing an impact from the road closure. It's not really been in our rate of play. Our rate of play, we're continuing to sustain the ability to continue to motivate the customer, but we are seeing a decline in non rated play. I think it's about probably within the range that Marcus described. So we're still trying to for solutions as it relates to that, providing different options from a customer perspective. Speaker 300:26:30So unfortunately with that, we're going to continue to deal with that most likely into 2027 now is kind of what we're hearing. So we'll be attempting to mitigate that in other ways. What was the other one? Speaker 400:26:45Chicago. Speaker 300:26:50Yes. Chicago, so that's still we're still ramping that property. We're focused really is on Speaker 400:26:58continuing to motivate database growth. Speaker 300:26:58If you just look at we've grown we've grown GDR 40% in Q2 versus Q4. So we're continuing to build momentum there. It's just taking a little bit longer to ramp that property. We're over 100,000 people in the database. That's actually 100% growth since Q4. Speaker 300:27:26So again, our focus and our priorities continue to grow that database as we continue to work our way towards the opening of our Corona facility. Speaker 400:27:36And just to finish that off, Jeff, as you can see from our commentary, Chicago continues to progress, as George stated. We're being intentional with nurturing the existing customer base as well as continuing to try to fill the funnel with new introductions and relationships with consumers in that market. Margin will come as we continue to mature as a property. But right now, the idea is we are laying the foundation for our permanent casino that will come Q3 of 2026. And so the idea is we're going to continue to build that business and make sure that we drive top line knowing we'll eventually get to a better place on the margin. Speaker 700:28:19Great. That's really helpful. Thank you for all that color. And then maybe for my follow-up question, turning over to the International Interactive business. Robison, can you just add a bit more color to what you're seeing currently in Japan, that I believe you referenced in the prepared remarks. Speaker 700:28:35Is this mostly a function of the government cracking down on your payments and kind of other providers? Is there something else structural that's driving negative constant currency revenue growth? And then how much has the devaluation in the yen played a role here? Just any additional color you can provide there would be great. Thanks. Speaker 200:28:57Thank you, Jeff. Well, it's good to acknowledge the devaluation of the yen. Some of the government impacts has largely driven sentiment. So it's more of a demand. So the audiences capturing new audience has been more challenging. Speaker 200:29:14That's actually been the real issue. That has definitely stalled all the sort of willingness to play. Every time historically we've seen this, we've seen demands come back and it ebbs and flows. But yes, only really a demand basis. The model still works. Speaker 200:29:34It still converts. What we've shown that even with revenue decline there, we're still able to convert fairly efficiently down to an EBITDA level. So we've got Speaker 100:29:47the levers to pull. Speaker 200:29:49I would say that the reason why some margins aren't as high, particularly as you would expect, given how much we're converting revenue to EBITDA in Japan. We're actually investing in growth. So we're actually spending a bit more on brand in other markets such as the U. K. Because we're seeing opportunities there and we think we can grow very consistently in that market. Speaker 200:30:21I can give you more color about the U. K. If you can, Steven. Speaker 700:30:25Yes, sure. And then actually before we turn to the U. K, I just want to be crystal clear on one thing with Japan. When you talk about more of a sentiment impact and player demand, I guess, are you referring to players becoming fearful of, I guess, the kind of pseudo gray and potential legal action? Are you more referring to wealth effect with anything priced in non yen being more expensive for them currently or I guess both? Speaker 200:30:52It's so yes, things are more expensive for these people because of the weakening in the yen. It's not as large an audience searching for the product as previously seen. So when you actually look at search volumes, there's less engagement there. Again, that can either be driven by sentiment in the market, but it also can be driven by essentially the cost of entertainment becoming higher because the weakening at the end. So you'll spend much more in your local currency. Speaker 700:31:23Okay. That's great. And then I think you did not to get crude here, but I think you did mention potentially some color on UK as well. So that offers to hold for the we'd love to hear a little more on Speaker 300:31:34UK as well. Speaker 200:31:35Yes, sure. So we've been spending more money on brand advertising, so really trying to get the brand out there. Typically, that's less effective from a performance marketing point of view, but we really want to invest in making sure that some of our brands such as Virgin and Bally's grow in the market. Bally's is doing pretty well. Think it's record month and revenues, it's been growing consistently now. Speaker 200:32:03That's all about having highly accurate marketing. We've definitely improved that code base of our native applications in that market, which has made it easier to drive a better customer experience. And we've massively advanced our real time monitoring and player management. So that both helps us from communicating to our players in a near real time fashion, I mean sort of split seconds. That also helps from a regulatory perspective and actually that's been great because we're working very closely with UK Gambling Commission. Speaker 200:32:40That relationship Speaker 300:32:42is constructive. Speaker 200:32:44The reason why I say the business is sustainable and I'm very confident of the future is the systems we're putting in place means that we have good play, it's safe play and that means that players are staying with us for longer, engaging with us, which is great given our revenue growth. Speaker 700:33:07Great. Thanks, Robert. Appreciate the additional color there. I'll pass it on. Speaker 100:33:12Thank you, Jeff. Operator00:33:15Thank you. We go next now to Chad Beynon of Macquarie. Speaker 800:33:20Afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Robison, on the North American Interactive business, I think you mentioned that we should still expect a $30,000,000 loss for the year, and that's not going to be linear in the back half obviously. There's some seasonality in a number of different factors. So maybe a 2 parter on that. Speaker 800:33:42I guess, firstly, on the cost side, I believe even though you're transitioning to Cambie and WhiteHat, there were some extra costs just in terms of 2 different stacks that you were running on. So I guess first question, can you kind of give us an update in terms of where the cost structure is? And then secondly, more importantly, can you give us some additional commentary in terms of timing of different states, kind of how you're thinking about customer acquisition or cross sell, maybe just some milestones as we get deeper into 2024? Thanks. Speaker 200:34:22Sure. So thank you, Chad. We just recently launched in Maryland with OSB. We've got a few other sports launches coming through the course of the year. I'll call out the easier well, the simpler ones, which are pure OSB, which are Illinois and Tennessee. Speaker 200:34:41The change from our technology stacks is incomplete. So we're currently still running both the WhiteHat PAM and the proprietary Bally's Pam in North America. During Q4, that will be replaced across Ontario, Pennsylvania and New Jersey. In both Ontario and New Jersey, we'll introduce OSB, which will help us from an acquisition perspective to help gain extra revenue. And also, yes, it will save on some marketing costs. Speaker 200:35:20But more importantly, it simplifies how our operational teams can work as there's one back office tool, there'll be one set of tooling. So these people actually have a far better life and we have a simpler solution to keep on scaling in a more cost effective way. I'm happy with our progress. I guess the standout is probably Pennsylvania where we continue to gain share. We'll do much more to make sure we're optimizing our product mix between slots and table games as the varying tax rates make a big difference to your EBITDA conversion of revenue. Speaker 800:35:59That's great. Thank you very much. And then separately on the CapEx reduction, can you just provide some color in terms of was this more maintenance CapEx, the reduction, smaller projects and why you're bringing that down at this point? Speaker 400:36:20Yes, it was a combination of the 2. Most of it was some small expansion projects at different properties that we reevaluated and want to make sure that we put a little bit more thought process to each of those projects before bringing those online. And so looking at where we are, spending a little more time with the operational team and fully rounding out our thought process around that allowed us to spend a little more time evaluating. Speaker 800:36:49Perfect. Thanks, Marcus. Appreciate it. Operator00:36:58We'll go next now to Jonathan Navarat at TD Cowen. Speaker 600:37:03Thank you. And good afternoon, everyone. Just, George, I think you mentioned that, the database in Chicago doubled since December, right? Speaker 300:37:16That's right. We're at 100,000 now. Speaker 600:37:19Right. That's good. And could you just let me know what are the revenue EBITDA run rates at the Chicago facility right now? Speaker 300:37:29Yes. So the revenue run rates that we I think I have to get accuracy on that, but I think we're from a GGR perspective, we're at around $13,000,000 on GGR tables and slots. Speaker 600:37:46And Speaker 300:37:48we had our peak performance in May, typically from seasonal perspective is peak. June was a little flash, but that's more calendar. And then we continue So it also took 50% when it's now in June July. Yes, I'm talking to GDS. Yes. Speaker 300:38:05So I think when you look at us compared to the market, we're continuing to make we're continuing to grow. I think we're number 2 in table games and we're continuing maybe number 4 now in slots, I believe. So So we're just continuing to grow. But again, I mentioned earlier that our focus really is on growing database. We just want to just open up the funnel at the top and get as many people in that database, which gives us the ability to market to obviously once the permanent opens. Speaker 600:38:41Got it. And I may have missed it, but anything on EBITDA run rate? Speaker 100:38:48We're not really doing that at this point in time. Speaker 600:38:51Okay. And lastly for me is, how much in terms of EBITDA did the Rhode Island Bridge closure cost the company this quarter? And can we expect somewhat of a similar impact for the remaining two quarters should that bridge remain closed or rather congested for the remainder of the year? Speaker 300:39:14We calculate about $2,000,000 on a quarterly basis right now. So a little over $500,000 a month from an EBITDA perspective. Speaker 600:39:25Got it. Thank you. Operator00:39:30We'll go next now to Colin Mansfield at CBRE Institutional Research. Speaker 900:39:36Hi, everybody. Thanks for taking my question and congratulations on securing the financing for the Chicago project. Maybe a couple from our side just on Chicago. I guess the approval process you mentioned that you're going through with the city right now on the new design. What are your expectations for how long that's going to take? Speaker 900:39:58Is there anything potentially that could take a while that this could potentially slow down how you're thinking about the cadence of construction? Or is there any risk that I think the target date of September 2026 for the opening, is there anything with this process that could potentially put that in jeopardy? Speaker 100:40:18Let me take a shot at it. Look, obviously, it's a totally new design and the set of circumstances we have to get the specifications and engineering, all the documentation that the department of buildings will be able to Speaker 300:40:30approve. Speaker 100:40:32It has been the new design, additional towers that has resonated with Citi. I mean, if you look at the press, I think there's consistent degree of support for that. But practically, there are certain things that we can't do until we actually have that approved. But there are with our partner GLPI, there's things like certain supplies that have either long lead times or to get going like buying concrete, buying materials, steel to the degree that you don't have to buy 100% first. You can do that over time. Speaker 100:41:10And we are trying to do everything we can to make sure that we are able to do things in parallel while we're waiting for those approvals. And the so the near term spending may move a little bit to the right, but relative to we will open by September 2026. Speaker 900:41:35Okay, great. Thanks for the color there. And then just maybe one modeling question from us. Of the about $170,000,000 of restricted cash that you guys disclosed, can you just remind us how much of that is actually down at the Chicago subsidiary? Speaker 100:41:54There was $58,000,000 in that that got released on 5 days later because $50,000,000 for the final payment to the Tribune and then $8,000,000 was accumulated cash COOP or interest banks actually pay interest these days and those were released with that. So the $171,000,000 would be $58,000,000 less 6 days later. Speaker 900:42:22Okay, great. Thanks everybody. Operator00:42:27And gentlemen, it appears we have no further questions this afternoon. I'd like turn the conference back to you, members of management for any closing comments. Speaker 200:42:36Yes. So everyone, thank you for joining us again. Let me give a few extra comments. Just as a reminder, we have delivered on the funding that we promised for our Chicago permanent casino resort. We'll continue to diligently deliver our development pipeline and that includes delivering a route to profitability for North America Interactive. Speaker 200:42:59And we'll continue to nail our core profitability across our C and R and international interactive segments. So great to hear from you all. You'll hear from us again soon. See you. Bye bye. Operator00:43:16Thank you, Mr. Reeves. Ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude today's Bally's Corporation's Q2 earnings conference call. Again, thanks so much for joining us everyone and we wish you all a great day.Read morePowered by