NASDAQ:LOCO El Pollo Loco Q2 2024 Earnings Report $10.62 -0.28 (-2.57%) As of 06/12/2025 04:00 PM Eastern ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast El Pollo Loco EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.26Consensus EPS $0.21Beat/MissBeat by +$0.05One Year Ago EPS$0.23El Pollo Loco Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$122.20 millionExpected Revenue$120.39 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.81 millionYoY Revenue Growth+0.60%El Pollo Loco Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/1/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 1, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsEl Pollo Loco's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, July 30, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by El Pollo Loco Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 1, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the El Pollo Loco Second Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen only mode and the lines will be open for your questions following the presentation. Please note that this conference is being recorded today, August 1, 2024. And now, I would like to turn the conference over to Ira Phils, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Operator00:00:31Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:34Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. By now, everyone should have access to our Q2 2024 earnings release. If not, it can be found at www.elpoyoloco.com in the Investor Relations section. Before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that our discussions today will include forward looking statements, including statements related to our growth opportunities, strategic and operating initiatives, expectations regarding sales and margins, potential changes to our product platforms, capital expenditure plans, expectations regarding kiosk rollouts, the ability of our franchisees to drive growth, expectations regarding commodity and wage inflation, remodel plans our 2024 guidance among others. These forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and therefore you should not put undue reliance on them. Speaker 100:01:35These statements are also subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we currently expect. We refer you to our recent SEC filings, including our Form 10 ks for the year ended 2023 previously filed as well as our Form 10 Q for the Q2 to be filed for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial condition. We expect to file our 10 Q for the Q2 of 2024 tomorrow. We encourage you to review that document at your earliest convenience. During today's call, we will discuss non GAAP measures that we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. Speaker 100:02:28The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP and reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures are available in our earnings release, which is available in the Investor Relations section of our website. With respect to the restaurant contribution margin outlook we will be providing on today's call, please note that we have not provided a reconciliation to the most directly comparable forward looking GAAP financial measure because without unreasonable efforts, we are unable to predict with reasonable certainty the amount of or timing of non GAAP adjustments that are used to calculate income from operations and company operated restaurant revenue on a forward looking basis. Now, I would like to turn it over to our CEO, Liz Williams. Speaker 200:03:26Thank you, Ira, and good afternoon, everyone. I am proud of what we have accomplished during the Q2 as we delivered 4.5% increase in system wide comparable restaurant sales driven by our iconic Steyr grilled chicken, our renewed focus on everyday value and our consistent operations. Our restaurant level margins were 18.6%, 170 basis point improvement versus the Q2 of 2023, which can be attributed to our ongoing operational focus. While we are proud of these achievements, we are just getting started in growing our beloved brand. As you know, it has been a challenging macroeconomic environment for the restaurant industry and consumers as a whole in the recent months. Speaker 200:04:23While some may see this as an obstacle, we see this as an opportunity to showcase to our guests that El Pollo Loco is one of the unique restaurants that can offer portable, craveable, fresh food all for a good value and with the convenience of fast service. And don't just take our word for it. Last month, we were named the nation's number 1 best restaurant for quick, healthy food by USA TODAY as voted on by consumers across the country, beating out several well known larger brands. It is recognition like this that reinforces our differentiated consumer value proposition that makes us primed for growth. As we navigate the second half of twenty twenty four, let me update you on our 5 strategic pillars. Speaker 200:05:19As a reminder, these are Brand That Wins, to be the flavorful, affordable, better for you chicken leader Hospitality mindset, to show up consistently and with a hospitality mindset. Number 3, digital first, to become a digital first business in service of improving the customer experience. Number 4, to deliver winning unit economics and number 5, to drive unit growth again with national expansion. Let's start with brand that wins. El Pollo Loco sits at the intersection of chicken and Mexican, 2 of the fastest growing categories. Speaker 200:06:04We are squarely focused on being known for the best chicken in the limited service restaurant sector by bringing thoughtful innovation and affordable options back into the brand. To that end, we recently re launched our Fire Grill burritos with handmade guacamole included in all 3, at a very attractive price point of $9.99 $8.99 for our Loco Rewards members. As value perceptions across our entire industry are at a crucial point right now, our burritos with delicious ingredients like our new creamy Chipotle sauce or our signature queso blanco reinforce the promise that you can fill up on really good food for a good price at El Pollo Loco. The best part is that these burritos were designed to maintain our favorable margins. Early feedback has been positive and we look forward to providing you with additional updates later this year. Speaker 200:07:10As we launched our new burritos, we also brought back for a limited time our double chopped salads with chicken and we reintroduced shrimp following the success we saw with shrimp in the Q1. While premium priced, these fan favorites are affordable versus the fast casual alternatives in the market, and they provide healthy options for consumers on the go. We also continued to test other value with our Fire Grill deal, including our a la carte and combo offering in the $3 to $7 price range. With classics like our original Playa Bowl and Tacos All Carbone. I look forward to sharing more with you in the upcoming months as we learn more from our tough markets. Speaker 200:08:04Finally, as we sharpen our brand positioning, we look forward to reinforcing as genuinely delicious food that not only tastes good, but also makes you feel good. We have a unique opportunity to own this space in QSR. Turning now to our digital first pillar. While we believe $9.99 is already a very competitive price point on our menu, our Loco Rewards loyalty members have access to even better deals like 8.99 Burritos already mentioned. Our program powered through our Loco Rewards app is the best place for these deals at EPL. Speaker 200:08:50In this environment where value is key to the consumer, we will continue to ensure our digital assets offer value that drive trial and repeat visits. Turning to kiosks. When we first began the rollout of kiosks late last year, our timeline was accelerated to help offset the minimum wage increases that were forecasted in our California markets. When we stepped back and realized the high touch training and customer service that was needed to drive sustainable customer adoption, we decided to better pace and sequence this timeline to ensure our guest experience remained a priority. In parallel, our team has been exploring additional labor productivity initiatives throughout our P and L to offset any gap from kiosk savings. Speaker 200:09:47As such, we now expect to complete our company kiosk rollout by the end of the year. This extra time has also enabled some technology enhancements that help our operational and customer experience, like accepting gift cards and discounts. We believe this has been the right decision for the success of kiosks within El Pollo Loco for the long term. We remain excited by the future potential of kiosks and look forward to keeping you updated as the year goes on. The next pillar I want to touch on is delivering winning unit economics. Speaker 200:10:28While we are pleased with our margin performance during the quarter, we are excited about the roadmap that we are building for our future. We are looking across the P and L from labor productivity to cost of goods sold to repair and maintenance and utilities and all other controllable expenses. We have a dedicated working team focused on these initiatives led by recently hired new leaders guiding our supply chain, our operational services and our culinary functions. With their fresh perspective and our talented teams that have been with El Pollo Loco for many years, we are approaching our cost savings initiatives methodically to ensure our high quality food and the guest experience only improve. As we unlock this potential, we expect to start seeing the benefits in the Q4 of 2024 and offsetting the investments we are making in this initiative. Speaker 200:11:33Through the work we've done thus far and with the roadmap for the next year, we believe there is an opportunity to approach 18% restaurant contribution margins in 2025, giving us increased confidence in our ability to return to consistent 18% to 20% margins over time. Lastly, let's talk about driving unit growth. As I mentioned on our last call, our current prototype build costs are simply too high to drive consistent long term franchise growth. To that end, we have made good progress on value engineering and reducing the cost of our prototype, while at the same time modernizing our brand image. I have increased confidence in our ability to reduce our new unit build cost to around $1,800,000 We are just finishing up the design of the prototype, which will have a more relevant image that bridges our current design to our future. Speaker 200:12:41In the next few months, we will begin construction on a company unit with the new prototype and reduced cost model. We look forward to sharing further updates as we move through the year. Combined with the development incentive that we launched a few months ago for our franchise partners, we are quickly laying the foundation to ignite development growth in 2025. Wrapping up development, I am pleased to introduce Tim Welsh as our Chief Development Officer. Tim joined the team in early June and has brought with him over 20 years of development and franchising experience in growth strategies, franchise sales, prototype development, remodel programs and facilities maintenance. Speaker 200:13:32From design to facilities maintenance to restaurant equipment, Tim has already had an impact on many areas of our cost engineering and design initiatives. His experience is the perfect fit for El Pollo Loco as we work together with our franchise partners to drive unit growth and become a national brand. I want to close by talking about our hospitality mindset pillar and the underpinning priority of culture. We are committed to attracting, hiring and retaining top talent and driving a culture of accountability. As I have gotten to know the El Pollo Loco team better in my last 6 months, I have been so impressed with our restaurant culture. Speaker 200:14:24Because of the strength of our leaders and the passion of our team members and franchise partners, we have some of the lowest turnover in the restaurant industry in both company and franchise restaurants. As our team is focused on updating our tools and standards to drive speed, accuracy and hospitality, we are confident that our culture will enable some quick operational wins. We look forward to sharing more in the future. In summary, we believe we have the right building blocks for long term success. We are reinventing value by focusing on our key differentiator, citrus marinated fire grilled chicken. Speaker 200:15:12We have the right leadership in place to reignite our growth plan and return Opio Loco to historically strong margin performance. And we are fortunate to have such a strong support center team and over 4,300 amazing team members in our restaurants and an incredible franchise system. Together, all of this is ready to capture the growth ahead. With that, let me turn the call over to Ira for a more detailed discussion of our Q2 financial results. Speaker 100:15:49Thank you, Liz, and good afternoon, everyone. For the Q2 ended June 26, 2024, total revenue increased 0.6 percent to $122,200,000 compared to $121,500,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Company operated restaurant revenue decreased 1.5% to $102,300,000 from $103,900,000 in the same period last year. The $1,600,000 decrease in company operated restaurant sales was primarily driven by a $5,500,000 decrease in revenue from the refranchising of 19 company operated restaurants to existing franchisees in prior quarters, offset by a 3.2% increase in company operated comparable restaurant sales and additional sales from restaurants opened during or subsequent to the Q2 of 2023. The increase in comparable restaurant sales included an 8.8% increase in average check size and an approximately 5.2% decrease in transactions. Speaker 100:17:11During the Q2, our effective price increase versus 2023 was 7.8%. Franchise revenue increased 15.1% to $11,700,000 during the 2nd quarter driven by a 5.3% increase in franchise comparable restaurant sales as well as 4 new franchise restaurant openings during or subsequent to the Q2 of 2023 and the 19 refranchise restaurants I've just mentioned earlier. Looking ahead, 3rd quarter to date sales through July 30, 2024 system wide comparable store sales increased 1.9% consisting of a 0.3% increase in company operated restaurants and a 2.8% increase in franchise restaurants. Our quarter to date trends reflect 2 major factors. 1st, the impact of the July 4th shift and second, the impact of a mismatch in LTO timing relative to last year. Speaker 100:18:30As we've moved past these transitory timing issues, we've already seen trends start to normalize and expect to see comparable trends similar to what we achieved in the Q2 for the majority of the remainder of the 3rd quarter. Turning to expenses. Food and labor costs as a percentage of company restaurant sales decreased 220 basis points year over year to 25.2 percent due to higher menu prices and lower discounting, partially offset by slight commodity inflation of approximately 2.7%. We expect commodity inflation to be a manageable 2% to 3% for the full year 2024. Labor and related expenses as a percentage of company restaurant sales increased 100 basis points year over year to 32.1 percent. Speaker 100:19:31An increase in wages was partially offset by higher menu prices and better operating efficiencies primarily driven through improvements in labor deployment and labor scheduling especially during open and closing periods. Labor wage inflation during the 2nd quarter was approximately 15% for all our company owned locations driven by wage inflation in our California restaurants of approximately 17% as a result of the April 1, California $20 minimum wage increase for QSR restaurants. For the full year 2024, we expect wage inflation between 12% 13% for all our company owned locations. Occupancy and other operating expenses as a percentage of company restaurant sales decreased 50 basis points year over year to 24.1 percent primarily due to the leverage gained on the same store sales increase combined with the sale of lower volume locations to existing franchisees in the prior year. Our restaurant contribution margin for the Q2 was 18.6% compared to 16.9% in the year ago period. Speaker 100:20:56For the full year 2024, we are now expecting our restaurant contribution margin to be in the 16% to 17% range, an increase from our prior expectation of 15.5% percent to 16.5 percent, including the Q3 of 24% in the 15% to 16% range. We are pleased with the progress we are making in our labor improvement initiatives and as Liz mentioned earlier, we are continuing to focus on identifying additional savings and efficiencies across the P and L as we continue to improve restaurant level margins. General and administrative expenses increased 50 basis points year over year to 9.6 percent of total revenue. The increase for the quarter was primarily due to an increase in estimated management bonus expense and executive transition costs. During the Q2, we recorded a provision for our income taxes $2,000,000 for an effective tax rate of 29.3%. Speaker 100:22:08This compares to a provision for our income taxes of $2,700,000 and an effective tax rate of 27.9% in the prior year period. We reported GAAP net income of $7,600,000 or $0.25 per diluted share in the Q2 compared to GAAP net income of $7,100,000 or $0.20 per diluted share in the prior year period. Adjusted net income for the quarter was $7,800,000 or $0.26 per diluted share compared to adjusted net income of $8,000,000 or $0.23 per diluted share in the Q2 of last year. Please refer to our earnings release for a reconciliation of non GAAP measures. Turning to development. Speaker 100:23:02We are modestly reducing our development and remodel guidance for the year. This enables us to incorporate design elements and cost savings from our new prototype and a greater portion of the system more quickly and thus better setting us up for success over the long term. During the quarter, our franchisees opened 1 new restaurant in California and we sold one company location to an existing franchisee. In regards to remodels, during the Q2, we completed 2 company operated for the year to 5 company restaurants and 28 franchise restaurants. For the full year, we expect to complete a total of 10 to 12 company remodels and 35 to 45 franchise remodels in 2024. Speaker 100:24:04Turning to liquidity. As of June 26, 2024, we had $87,000,000 of debt outstanding and $10,500,000 in cash and cash equivalents. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we paid down an additional $4,000,000 on our revolver resulting in $83,000,000 of debt outstanding as of July 31, 2024. On May 29, 2024, the company repurchased approximately 1,500,000 shares for $15,000,000 under a stock repurchase agreement with FS Equity Partners and FS Affiliates. Additionally, during the Q2, we repurchased approximately 203,000 shares of stock for approximately $2,000,000 leaving about $4,200,000 remaining under our current share repurchase authorization as of June 26, 2024. Speaker 100:25:07Finally, based on our results to date, we would like to update the following guidance for 2024. The opening of 2 company owned restaurants and 4 to 5 franchise restaurants. Capital spending between $24,000,000 $26,000,000 G and A expenses between $45,000,000 $47,000,000 excluding one time costs and an adjusted income tax rate of 27.5% to 28%. This concludes our prepared remarks. We'd like to thank you again for joining us on the call today and we are now happy to answer any questions that you may have. Speaker 100:25:50Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:25:57Ladies and gentlemen, we will now be conducting a question and answer Our first question comes from the line of Jake Bartlett with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:26:39Great. Thanks for taking the question. My first one was just on underlying consumer demand, underlying restaurant demand. Your same store sales, obviously great in the quarter itself, a little volatile as the promotions have kind of rolled off and then rolled back on. How do you interpret what the underlying demand is? Speaker 300:26:58Do you feel like it's stabilizing, still maybe deteriorating a bit, maybe improving? What's your characterization of your consumer right now? Speaker 200:27:08Thanks for the question, Jake. And I'll start and then I can pass it over to Eira. Pretty much all of those characteristics you just mentioned, we're seeing a lot of that noise in the data. When you look at as we entered into Q3, we have a lot of factors of our own that also clouded the data somewhat. So we have a lap that was mismatched with last year when we started our LTO this year versus where we started last year, which always creates some noise. Speaker 200:27:40And then we also made a strategic decision earlier this year to reduce the amount of discounting that we were doing with our rather, it's a bit of an older format of discounting with our FSIs or our coupon drops. And those decisions are made months in advance. You can imagine because it's the old way of doing things where things are printed. And so the discounting levels were less than they were last year, which now where we see where we sit in value, you'd want them to be more. So we're of course changing that going forward. Speaker 200:28:10But that of course had impact. And then when you layer in the 4th July holiday, which I think what others have been saying, we saw that too. People really adjusted their schedule more than just a day or 2. And then just the overall consumer softness. So you put all that together and I definitely am seeing that. Speaker 200:28:33But then we launched the good news about this business is we got out there, we just launched 2 new products. We re launched our burritos with our guacamole, fresh guacamole included at $9.99 $8.99 And then on barbell strategy, so we did that on the value and then on the salads, we launched the double to start a salad and have gotten a great response there even though that's up at $11 to $12 price point, but it's still value versus where fast casual salads are. So we launched those and we saw the traffic pick back up. So I don't know that I gave you any more clarity, but it's definitely a mixed bag. Go ahead, Isaac. Speaker 200:29:18Yes. Speaker 100:29:19It was very much a mixed bag as you move through the month. The only thing I will add and I mean it's not a lot of data points, but this most recent week that we experienced, we did see a little bit of a return to where we had been earlier on in the year or specifically last quarter from a sales standpoint. So, we are optimistic as we move from the quarter that we still have nice sales momentum. But July there was a lot going in our July comp. Operator00:29:50Got it. And maybe if Speaker 300:29:51you could also just address regionality and how your stores in California are doing versus stores outside. We've heard a lot of different results in California, mostly kind of bad news, the consumer pulling back and traffic being fairly pressured in that market. Was that your experience? Maybe the experience outside of California is a little bit more representative the kind of the maybe the underlying consumer itself, but any commentary there would be helpful. Speaker 100:30:23We didn't see a whole lot of difference between the markets. I mean, I would say marginally, there were some markets outside of California that was a little stronger. But I think in general, the comp that you see for us is pretty representative of the system. Speaker 300:30:41Okay. And last question, on the expansion of the margins, you're really going from 24% to 25% kind of to come. What is the main driver? It's about I think at the midpoint of about 150 basis points, which is it right to think about labor as really the kind of the vast majority of the benefit would be coming through the labor line or is it more broad based than that? Speaker 200:31:06It's going to be more broad based than that. Certainly labor productivity, we still think that there's opportunity in those shoulder hours, within some of the productivity we're doing. And then as we deploy kiosks, all of those will help. But then we also have a very concerted effort on our cost of goods and some of our semi variable costs where we have put a dedicated effort. We've engaged a third party. Speaker 200:31:34We have some new talent leading our supply chain function and some of our other functions. And we're just doing a very thorough look in the middle of the P and L on those other line items. And honestly, it just hasn't been done in a couple of years and it's overdue. Speaker 300:31:52Great. I appreciate it. Operator00:31:55Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Todd Brooks with Benchmark Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:32:04Hey, thanks for taking my questions and congrats on strong results in a very choppy environment. So well done. Operator00:32:14Thank you, Craig. Speaker 400:32:14First question, just to follow-up on Jake's question. Ira, you're talking about the regional performance and not seeing big discrepancies. But if we don't look at it at the total same store sales level, but we looked at it as more at the traffic level, Kind of what's the spread between what you've seen in California versus Speaker 300:32:35the non California markets? Speaker 100:32:38Yes, we definitely have seen a little more decline in California from a traffic standpoint than the outer markets because those are the markets that we've taken a little more price. Speaker 400:32:49And I know that there's been talk about that consumer kind of throwing up their hands and walking away in April May. But if you look at California traffic trends, are you seeing any evidence that this whole concept of I'm just going to make my food at home, I'm not going to eat out, There'll be a point that people get tired of it and they figure out how to add some of these restaurant visits back into their routines and their budgeting. Are you seeing any improvement in California traffic trends relative to what you were seeing in April, May with all the hype around the fast act of the price increases that were taken? Speaker 200:33:27Yes, not yet. I hope what you're hypothesizing is true. I think we've seen cycles like this where that has happened or the other thing that happens is gas prices come back down and they have a little bit of extra money. Now we're about to go into back to school where people are spending money on that. What we are seeing is and I think everyone's seeing the trade down effect. Speaker 200:33:50And so, we sit in the middle, so we do get the trade down where people find going to casual dining too expensive or even I was talking about the salads, the fast casual salad is too expensive. So instead of $15 to $16 they're going to come to us for an $11 to $12 salad. And the salad we're promoting right now has super green lettuce, it has pepitas, queso fresco, of course our plains grilled chicken and we're offering shrimp as well. So when you compare it side by side with those salads on the upper end, I see a nice we're benefiting from trade down there. But then we give up some as people trade down on the lower end of QSR. Speaker 200:34:35So as we've got the guys out there running the crazy couple of dollar for this or that, the consumer that's really under pressure, sadly is going to trade down there. So, I think we're seeing all of that right now. Speaker 400:34:54Okay, fair enough. And then a final one for me and it was encouraging to hear, but I think mix has been running negative for a few quarters now. And when you were giving us the components of same store sales, it sounds like mix was up 100 basis points in the quarter. I guess what drove the positive swing and maybe duration either due to easier compares on the mix front or what you're doing on the menu? Just thoughts on the ability to keep the mix in a flat to positive place. Speaker 400:35:23Thanks. Speaker 100:35:24Yes. You're right on it starts a little bit with what you talked about a little easier compares from a standpoint because last year is when we started to see the headwinds from a mix standpoint. So that's a component of it. Another component of it for the quarter is as we talked a little bit earlier is we had less discounting during the quarter as well, which also helped from a mix standpoint. And then we just continue to see some positive benefits in our core tostadas as we promoted that kind of at the end of last quarter and into this quarter. Speaker 100:35:53And we're continuing to seeing that. And the quesadilla that we added to the menu and the crunchy taco drive a little mix as well, the new crunchy taco, which we added earlier in the year, but that also helped drive a little mix as well. Speaker 400:36:07So you're expecting durability of kind of positive mix for the next few quarters then, Ira? Operator00:36:12Yes. Speaker 400:36:14Okay, perfect. Thank you both. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:36:17Thank you. Operator00:36:18Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andy Barish with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:36:28Yes. Hey, guys. Just trying to tease out, I mean, the step down in food costs to low-25s is not something I think the brand's ever seen. So I mean pricing ramped up a little bit from 1Q. I'm just even thinking sequentially from 1Q to 2Q, but not that much, I guess, to account for 120 basis points sequentially. Speaker 500:36:53So, is it really the discounting and then the pulling back of the FSIs? And then did that have a direct effect, I guess, on the traffic numbers? And then also, as you turn answered the last question, helping boost the mix. I'm just trying to kind of put together all those pieces of the puzzle. Speaker 100:37:16Yes. So it's what you talked about. It was a little bit of the discounting, obviously the pricing, but it's a little in the mix as we've shifted our mix a little bit from the bone in chicken to the entree items, which have more leg and thigh meat, that's a lower cost item. And so we saw some mix in that of lower our cost as well, which also helped drive a lower food cost during the quarter. Speaker 200:37:42And I would also add that I think we're doing a better job of sourcing and we've invested in our supply chain team. And that's as I mentioned earlier, something we're going to continue to do, but certainly just being more pragmatic across the board. Speaker 500:38:00Yes. I wanted to dovetail on that if you could, Liz. I think you said, with some of the new leaders in those various areas that there's some investments, I guess, with headcount and such, but that it starts to turn into a benefit in the 4Q and beyond as the part of the bridge to that 18% possibility in 25%. Am I hearing that correctly? Speaker 200:38:31That's correct. That's correct. Speaker 500:38:34Okay. And then, I guess, just sort of an update in terms of where family meals stand in terms of your kind of everyday value proposition, how you kind of think about that business, how it's been acting over the last few months? Speaker 100:38:59It has still remained a little bit under pressure. I mean part of that is because we've been promoting the entree items, but we have seen that. We have as a percent of our mix it has declined, but it is very important part of our value proposition and our positioning because owning chicken is a big part of who we are. Speaker 200:39:22I would also say it remains one of our biggest value drivers. So when you look at the discounting and the couponing, the family chicken is one of the highest redeemed. So the person looking for the deal is usually that family chicken buyer. So they are a bit more of the price sensitive and that is also usually a dinner item. So in terms of people you're less likely to trade out and bring your lunch to work or go to the grocery store to substitute lunch, but you might do that. Speaker 200:39:57You might find that substitution for dinner. So that's also something, which again, it's just forcing us to go back as a system to figure out what's the right value equation, what's the right deal to be offering. Speaker 500:40:13Okay, got it. Thank you very much. Operator00:40:16You're welcome. Our next question comes from the line of Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:40:25Hi, good afternoon. I guess two questions. As we think about kind of the new unit prototype going down to 1,800,000 dollars build out cost. I mean, what are you value engineering in that? Is it just a smaller box? Speaker 600:40:42Is there anything meaningful you're doing on kitchen to take out costs? And then secondarily, on the kiosks, the kind of slower roll, are you going to have suggested selling now when you do have the kiosks rollout? Speaker 200:40:58Thanks for the question. I'll answer the last one first. So on the kiosk, definitely adding this or have the suggested selling and the additional can add to your burrito add or change things. So that is all enabled with the kiosk and something that clearly drives check once you get the kiosk in and fully full adoption. So we're excited about that. Speaker 200:41:24We really just wanted to slow down a bit to make sure that customer service was we're known for our customer service and we just we didn't want to be that environment where you walk in and you're just greeted by screens. So we saw that we had some room to take a beat and get it right and so we took that opportunity. And then as it relates to the build cost, the savings is coming from all over. So the first place I would point to is just reducing the size of the unit. Somehow we got into this world where we were building the units bigger than they needed to be, the dining rooms bigger than they needed to be. Speaker 200:42:02And in this world where drive through and delivery, especially with the 3rd party aggregators just continues to grow. We just didn't need that big of a dining room. And so we've reduced that to be about 2,200 square feet. So off of that, that's the savings. On the equipment package, we were over specking the equipment package. Speaker 200:42:21We were building out some elements of the kitchen bigger than we needed to build as well. And this is an area where Tim who just joined us leading development, he just came from an equipment provider and just as he knows that world inside and out and he's already brought some great ideas, try this and try that. So same savings there. And then the other place is just taking time to be more competitive and to in some of the design features. We were probably over designing the unit and of the design features, quite frankly, weren't modern. Speaker 200:43:00And so it was pretty easy to say, let's step back and rethink this and then redraw it and simplify and then go and rebid it. And so we've seen some nice savings on the construction costs as well. So it's not one thing, it's a list of many things that are going to get us to that 1.8. Okay. Thank you. Speaker 200:43:21You're welcome. Thank you. Operator00:43:25Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached to the end of today's question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Liz Williams for closing remarks. Speaker 200:43:38I just wanted to thank everyone again for joining us today. We're really pleased with the results for this quarter and we look forward to speaking with you in the next couple of weeks and months ahead. So thank you. Operator00:43:51Thank you. The conference of El Pollo Loco has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways System-wide comparable restaurant sales rose 4.5% in Q2 with restaurant-level margins improving 170 basis points to 18.6%, driving an upgraded full-year restaurant contribution margin outlook to 16–17%. Q2 total revenue was $122.2 million (up 0.6%), with franchise revenue up 15.1% while company-operated sales dipped 1.5%; commodity inflation of ~2.7% is expected to moderate to 2–3% and full-year wage inflation is guided at 12–13%. Unveiled new Fire Grill burritos with fresh guacamole at $9.99 ($8.99 for Loco Rewards members) and brought back double chopped salads and shrimp to reinforce portable, craveable, value offerings. Extended the kiosk rollout to year-end to ensure high customer adoption and service standards, while pursuing additional labor productivity initiatives across the P&L to offset wage pressure. Targeting a reduced prototype build cost of ~$1.8 million through downsized dining rooms, optimized equipment specs and design cost engineering; hired Tim Welsh as Chief Development Officer to accelerate franchise growth in 2025. AI Generated. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the El Pollo Loco Second Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen only mode and the lines will be open for your questions following the presentation. Please note that this conference is being recorded today, August 1, 2024. And now, I would like to turn the conference over to Ira Phils, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Operator00:00:31Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:34Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. By now, everyone should have access to our Q2 2024 earnings release. If not, it can be found at www.elpoyoloco.com in the Investor Relations section. Before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that our discussions today will include forward looking statements, including statements related to our growth opportunities, strategic and operating initiatives, expectations regarding sales and margins, potential changes to our product platforms, capital expenditure plans, expectations regarding kiosk rollouts, the ability of our franchisees to drive growth, expectations regarding commodity and wage inflation, remodel plans our 2024 guidance among others. These forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and therefore you should not put undue reliance on them. Speaker 100:01:35These statements are also subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we currently expect. We refer you to our recent SEC filings, including our Form 10 ks for the year ended 2023 previously filed as well as our Form 10 Q for the Q2 to be filed for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial condition. We expect to file our 10 Q for the Q2 of 2024 tomorrow. We encourage you to review that document at your earliest convenience. During today's call, we will discuss non GAAP measures that we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. Speaker 100:02:28The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP and reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures are available in our earnings release, which is available in the Investor Relations section of our website. With respect to the restaurant contribution margin outlook we will be providing on today's call, please note that we have not provided a reconciliation to the most directly comparable forward looking GAAP financial measure because without unreasonable efforts, we are unable to predict with reasonable certainty the amount of or timing of non GAAP adjustments that are used to calculate income from operations and company operated restaurant revenue on a forward looking basis. Now, I would like to turn it over to our CEO, Liz Williams. Speaker 200:03:26Thank you, Ira, and good afternoon, everyone. I am proud of what we have accomplished during the Q2 as we delivered 4.5% increase in system wide comparable restaurant sales driven by our iconic Steyr grilled chicken, our renewed focus on everyday value and our consistent operations. Our restaurant level margins were 18.6%, 170 basis point improvement versus the Q2 of 2023, which can be attributed to our ongoing operational focus. While we are proud of these achievements, we are just getting started in growing our beloved brand. As you know, it has been a challenging macroeconomic environment for the restaurant industry and consumers as a whole in the recent months. Speaker 200:04:23While some may see this as an obstacle, we see this as an opportunity to showcase to our guests that El Pollo Loco is one of the unique restaurants that can offer portable, craveable, fresh food all for a good value and with the convenience of fast service. And don't just take our word for it. Last month, we were named the nation's number 1 best restaurant for quick, healthy food by USA TODAY as voted on by consumers across the country, beating out several well known larger brands. It is recognition like this that reinforces our differentiated consumer value proposition that makes us primed for growth. As we navigate the second half of twenty twenty four, let me update you on our 5 strategic pillars. Speaker 200:05:19As a reminder, these are Brand That Wins, to be the flavorful, affordable, better for you chicken leader Hospitality mindset, to show up consistently and with a hospitality mindset. Number 3, digital first, to become a digital first business in service of improving the customer experience. Number 4, to deliver winning unit economics and number 5, to drive unit growth again with national expansion. Let's start with brand that wins. El Pollo Loco sits at the intersection of chicken and Mexican, 2 of the fastest growing categories. Speaker 200:06:04We are squarely focused on being known for the best chicken in the limited service restaurant sector by bringing thoughtful innovation and affordable options back into the brand. To that end, we recently re launched our Fire Grill burritos with handmade guacamole included in all 3, at a very attractive price point of $9.99 $8.99 for our Loco Rewards members. As value perceptions across our entire industry are at a crucial point right now, our burritos with delicious ingredients like our new creamy Chipotle sauce or our signature queso blanco reinforce the promise that you can fill up on really good food for a good price at El Pollo Loco. The best part is that these burritos were designed to maintain our favorable margins. Early feedback has been positive and we look forward to providing you with additional updates later this year. Speaker 200:07:10As we launched our new burritos, we also brought back for a limited time our double chopped salads with chicken and we reintroduced shrimp following the success we saw with shrimp in the Q1. While premium priced, these fan favorites are affordable versus the fast casual alternatives in the market, and they provide healthy options for consumers on the go. We also continued to test other value with our Fire Grill deal, including our a la carte and combo offering in the $3 to $7 price range. With classics like our original Playa Bowl and Tacos All Carbone. I look forward to sharing more with you in the upcoming months as we learn more from our tough markets. Speaker 200:08:04Finally, as we sharpen our brand positioning, we look forward to reinforcing as genuinely delicious food that not only tastes good, but also makes you feel good. We have a unique opportunity to own this space in QSR. Turning now to our digital first pillar. While we believe $9.99 is already a very competitive price point on our menu, our Loco Rewards loyalty members have access to even better deals like 8.99 Burritos already mentioned. Our program powered through our Loco Rewards app is the best place for these deals at EPL. Speaker 200:08:50In this environment where value is key to the consumer, we will continue to ensure our digital assets offer value that drive trial and repeat visits. Turning to kiosks. When we first began the rollout of kiosks late last year, our timeline was accelerated to help offset the minimum wage increases that were forecasted in our California markets. When we stepped back and realized the high touch training and customer service that was needed to drive sustainable customer adoption, we decided to better pace and sequence this timeline to ensure our guest experience remained a priority. In parallel, our team has been exploring additional labor productivity initiatives throughout our P and L to offset any gap from kiosk savings. Speaker 200:09:47As such, we now expect to complete our company kiosk rollout by the end of the year. This extra time has also enabled some technology enhancements that help our operational and customer experience, like accepting gift cards and discounts. We believe this has been the right decision for the success of kiosks within El Pollo Loco for the long term. We remain excited by the future potential of kiosks and look forward to keeping you updated as the year goes on. The next pillar I want to touch on is delivering winning unit economics. Speaker 200:10:28While we are pleased with our margin performance during the quarter, we are excited about the roadmap that we are building for our future. We are looking across the P and L from labor productivity to cost of goods sold to repair and maintenance and utilities and all other controllable expenses. We have a dedicated working team focused on these initiatives led by recently hired new leaders guiding our supply chain, our operational services and our culinary functions. With their fresh perspective and our talented teams that have been with El Pollo Loco for many years, we are approaching our cost savings initiatives methodically to ensure our high quality food and the guest experience only improve. As we unlock this potential, we expect to start seeing the benefits in the Q4 of 2024 and offsetting the investments we are making in this initiative. Speaker 200:11:33Through the work we've done thus far and with the roadmap for the next year, we believe there is an opportunity to approach 18% restaurant contribution margins in 2025, giving us increased confidence in our ability to return to consistent 18% to 20% margins over time. Lastly, let's talk about driving unit growth. As I mentioned on our last call, our current prototype build costs are simply too high to drive consistent long term franchise growth. To that end, we have made good progress on value engineering and reducing the cost of our prototype, while at the same time modernizing our brand image. I have increased confidence in our ability to reduce our new unit build cost to around $1,800,000 We are just finishing up the design of the prototype, which will have a more relevant image that bridges our current design to our future. Speaker 200:12:41In the next few months, we will begin construction on a company unit with the new prototype and reduced cost model. We look forward to sharing further updates as we move through the year. Combined with the development incentive that we launched a few months ago for our franchise partners, we are quickly laying the foundation to ignite development growth in 2025. Wrapping up development, I am pleased to introduce Tim Welsh as our Chief Development Officer. Tim joined the team in early June and has brought with him over 20 years of development and franchising experience in growth strategies, franchise sales, prototype development, remodel programs and facilities maintenance. Speaker 200:13:32From design to facilities maintenance to restaurant equipment, Tim has already had an impact on many areas of our cost engineering and design initiatives. His experience is the perfect fit for El Pollo Loco as we work together with our franchise partners to drive unit growth and become a national brand. I want to close by talking about our hospitality mindset pillar and the underpinning priority of culture. We are committed to attracting, hiring and retaining top talent and driving a culture of accountability. As I have gotten to know the El Pollo Loco team better in my last 6 months, I have been so impressed with our restaurant culture. Speaker 200:14:24Because of the strength of our leaders and the passion of our team members and franchise partners, we have some of the lowest turnover in the restaurant industry in both company and franchise restaurants. As our team is focused on updating our tools and standards to drive speed, accuracy and hospitality, we are confident that our culture will enable some quick operational wins. We look forward to sharing more in the future. In summary, we believe we have the right building blocks for long term success. We are reinventing value by focusing on our key differentiator, citrus marinated fire grilled chicken. Speaker 200:15:12We have the right leadership in place to reignite our growth plan and return Opio Loco to historically strong margin performance. And we are fortunate to have such a strong support center team and over 4,300 amazing team members in our restaurants and an incredible franchise system. Together, all of this is ready to capture the growth ahead. With that, let me turn the call over to Ira for a more detailed discussion of our Q2 financial results. Speaker 100:15:49Thank you, Liz, and good afternoon, everyone. For the Q2 ended June 26, 2024, total revenue increased 0.6 percent to $122,200,000 compared to $121,500,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Company operated restaurant revenue decreased 1.5% to $102,300,000 from $103,900,000 in the same period last year. The $1,600,000 decrease in company operated restaurant sales was primarily driven by a $5,500,000 decrease in revenue from the refranchising of 19 company operated restaurants to existing franchisees in prior quarters, offset by a 3.2% increase in company operated comparable restaurant sales and additional sales from restaurants opened during or subsequent to the Q2 of 2023. The increase in comparable restaurant sales included an 8.8% increase in average check size and an approximately 5.2% decrease in transactions. Speaker 100:17:11During the Q2, our effective price increase versus 2023 was 7.8%. Franchise revenue increased 15.1% to $11,700,000 during the 2nd quarter driven by a 5.3% increase in franchise comparable restaurant sales as well as 4 new franchise restaurant openings during or subsequent to the Q2 of 2023 and the 19 refranchise restaurants I've just mentioned earlier. Looking ahead, 3rd quarter to date sales through July 30, 2024 system wide comparable store sales increased 1.9% consisting of a 0.3% increase in company operated restaurants and a 2.8% increase in franchise restaurants. Our quarter to date trends reflect 2 major factors. 1st, the impact of the July 4th shift and second, the impact of a mismatch in LTO timing relative to last year. Speaker 100:18:30As we've moved past these transitory timing issues, we've already seen trends start to normalize and expect to see comparable trends similar to what we achieved in the Q2 for the majority of the remainder of the 3rd quarter. Turning to expenses. Food and labor costs as a percentage of company restaurant sales decreased 220 basis points year over year to 25.2 percent due to higher menu prices and lower discounting, partially offset by slight commodity inflation of approximately 2.7%. We expect commodity inflation to be a manageable 2% to 3% for the full year 2024. Labor and related expenses as a percentage of company restaurant sales increased 100 basis points year over year to 32.1 percent. Speaker 100:19:31An increase in wages was partially offset by higher menu prices and better operating efficiencies primarily driven through improvements in labor deployment and labor scheduling especially during open and closing periods. Labor wage inflation during the 2nd quarter was approximately 15% for all our company owned locations driven by wage inflation in our California restaurants of approximately 17% as a result of the April 1, California $20 minimum wage increase for QSR restaurants. For the full year 2024, we expect wage inflation between 12% 13% for all our company owned locations. Occupancy and other operating expenses as a percentage of company restaurant sales decreased 50 basis points year over year to 24.1 percent primarily due to the leverage gained on the same store sales increase combined with the sale of lower volume locations to existing franchisees in the prior year. Our restaurant contribution margin for the Q2 was 18.6% compared to 16.9% in the year ago period. Speaker 100:20:56For the full year 2024, we are now expecting our restaurant contribution margin to be in the 16% to 17% range, an increase from our prior expectation of 15.5% percent to 16.5 percent, including the Q3 of 24% in the 15% to 16% range. We are pleased with the progress we are making in our labor improvement initiatives and as Liz mentioned earlier, we are continuing to focus on identifying additional savings and efficiencies across the P and L as we continue to improve restaurant level margins. General and administrative expenses increased 50 basis points year over year to 9.6 percent of total revenue. The increase for the quarter was primarily due to an increase in estimated management bonus expense and executive transition costs. During the Q2, we recorded a provision for our income taxes $2,000,000 for an effective tax rate of 29.3%. Speaker 100:22:08This compares to a provision for our income taxes of $2,700,000 and an effective tax rate of 27.9% in the prior year period. We reported GAAP net income of $7,600,000 or $0.25 per diluted share in the Q2 compared to GAAP net income of $7,100,000 or $0.20 per diluted share in the prior year period. Adjusted net income for the quarter was $7,800,000 or $0.26 per diluted share compared to adjusted net income of $8,000,000 or $0.23 per diluted share in the Q2 of last year. Please refer to our earnings release for a reconciliation of non GAAP measures. Turning to development. Speaker 100:23:02We are modestly reducing our development and remodel guidance for the year. This enables us to incorporate design elements and cost savings from our new prototype and a greater portion of the system more quickly and thus better setting us up for success over the long term. During the quarter, our franchisees opened 1 new restaurant in California and we sold one company location to an existing franchisee. In regards to remodels, during the Q2, we completed 2 company operated for the year to 5 company restaurants and 28 franchise restaurants. For the full year, we expect to complete a total of 10 to 12 company remodels and 35 to 45 franchise remodels in 2024. Speaker 100:24:04Turning to liquidity. As of June 26, 2024, we had $87,000,000 of debt outstanding and $10,500,000 in cash and cash equivalents. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we paid down an additional $4,000,000 on our revolver resulting in $83,000,000 of debt outstanding as of July 31, 2024. On May 29, 2024, the company repurchased approximately 1,500,000 shares for $15,000,000 under a stock repurchase agreement with FS Equity Partners and FS Affiliates. Additionally, during the Q2, we repurchased approximately 203,000 shares of stock for approximately $2,000,000 leaving about $4,200,000 remaining under our current share repurchase authorization as of June 26, 2024. Speaker 100:25:07Finally, based on our results to date, we would like to update the following guidance for 2024. The opening of 2 company owned restaurants and 4 to 5 franchise restaurants. Capital spending between $24,000,000 $26,000,000 G and A expenses between $45,000,000 $47,000,000 excluding one time costs and an adjusted income tax rate of 27.5% to 28%. This concludes our prepared remarks. We'd like to thank you again for joining us on the call today and we are now happy to answer any questions that you may have. Speaker 100:25:50Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:25:57Ladies and gentlemen, we will now be conducting a question and answer Our first question comes from the line of Jake Bartlett with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:26:39Great. Thanks for taking the question. My first one was just on underlying consumer demand, underlying restaurant demand. Your same store sales, obviously great in the quarter itself, a little volatile as the promotions have kind of rolled off and then rolled back on. How do you interpret what the underlying demand is? Speaker 300:26:58Do you feel like it's stabilizing, still maybe deteriorating a bit, maybe improving? What's your characterization of your consumer right now? Speaker 200:27:08Thanks for the question, Jake. And I'll start and then I can pass it over to Eira. Pretty much all of those characteristics you just mentioned, we're seeing a lot of that noise in the data. When you look at as we entered into Q3, we have a lot of factors of our own that also clouded the data somewhat. So we have a lap that was mismatched with last year when we started our LTO this year versus where we started last year, which always creates some noise. Speaker 200:27:40And then we also made a strategic decision earlier this year to reduce the amount of discounting that we were doing with our rather, it's a bit of an older format of discounting with our FSIs or our coupon drops. And those decisions are made months in advance. You can imagine because it's the old way of doing things where things are printed. And so the discounting levels were less than they were last year, which now where we see where we sit in value, you'd want them to be more. So we're of course changing that going forward. Speaker 200:28:10But that of course had impact. And then when you layer in the 4th July holiday, which I think what others have been saying, we saw that too. People really adjusted their schedule more than just a day or 2. And then just the overall consumer softness. So you put all that together and I definitely am seeing that. Speaker 200:28:33But then we launched the good news about this business is we got out there, we just launched 2 new products. We re launched our burritos with our guacamole, fresh guacamole included at $9.99 $8.99 And then on barbell strategy, so we did that on the value and then on the salads, we launched the double to start a salad and have gotten a great response there even though that's up at $11 to $12 price point, but it's still value versus where fast casual salads are. So we launched those and we saw the traffic pick back up. So I don't know that I gave you any more clarity, but it's definitely a mixed bag. Go ahead, Isaac. Speaker 200:29:18Yes. Speaker 100:29:19It was very much a mixed bag as you move through the month. The only thing I will add and I mean it's not a lot of data points, but this most recent week that we experienced, we did see a little bit of a return to where we had been earlier on in the year or specifically last quarter from a sales standpoint. So, we are optimistic as we move from the quarter that we still have nice sales momentum. But July there was a lot going in our July comp. Operator00:29:50Got it. And maybe if Speaker 300:29:51you could also just address regionality and how your stores in California are doing versus stores outside. We've heard a lot of different results in California, mostly kind of bad news, the consumer pulling back and traffic being fairly pressured in that market. Was that your experience? Maybe the experience outside of California is a little bit more representative the kind of the maybe the underlying consumer itself, but any commentary there would be helpful. Speaker 100:30:23We didn't see a whole lot of difference between the markets. I mean, I would say marginally, there were some markets outside of California that was a little stronger. But I think in general, the comp that you see for us is pretty representative of the system. Speaker 300:30:41Okay. And last question, on the expansion of the margins, you're really going from 24% to 25% kind of to come. What is the main driver? It's about I think at the midpoint of about 150 basis points, which is it right to think about labor as really the kind of the vast majority of the benefit would be coming through the labor line or is it more broad based than that? Speaker 200:31:06It's going to be more broad based than that. Certainly labor productivity, we still think that there's opportunity in those shoulder hours, within some of the productivity we're doing. And then as we deploy kiosks, all of those will help. But then we also have a very concerted effort on our cost of goods and some of our semi variable costs where we have put a dedicated effort. We've engaged a third party. Speaker 200:31:34We have some new talent leading our supply chain function and some of our other functions. And we're just doing a very thorough look in the middle of the P and L on those other line items. And honestly, it just hasn't been done in a couple of years and it's overdue. Speaker 300:31:52Great. I appreciate it. Operator00:31:55Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Todd Brooks with Benchmark Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:32:04Hey, thanks for taking my questions and congrats on strong results in a very choppy environment. So well done. Operator00:32:14Thank you, Craig. Speaker 400:32:14First question, just to follow-up on Jake's question. Ira, you're talking about the regional performance and not seeing big discrepancies. But if we don't look at it at the total same store sales level, but we looked at it as more at the traffic level, Kind of what's the spread between what you've seen in California versus Speaker 300:32:35the non California markets? Speaker 100:32:38Yes, we definitely have seen a little more decline in California from a traffic standpoint than the outer markets because those are the markets that we've taken a little more price. Speaker 400:32:49And I know that there's been talk about that consumer kind of throwing up their hands and walking away in April May. But if you look at California traffic trends, are you seeing any evidence that this whole concept of I'm just going to make my food at home, I'm not going to eat out, There'll be a point that people get tired of it and they figure out how to add some of these restaurant visits back into their routines and their budgeting. Are you seeing any improvement in California traffic trends relative to what you were seeing in April, May with all the hype around the fast act of the price increases that were taken? Speaker 200:33:27Yes, not yet. I hope what you're hypothesizing is true. I think we've seen cycles like this where that has happened or the other thing that happens is gas prices come back down and they have a little bit of extra money. Now we're about to go into back to school where people are spending money on that. What we are seeing is and I think everyone's seeing the trade down effect. Speaker 200:33:50And so, we sit in the middle, so we do get the trade down where people find going to casual dining too expensive or even I was talking about the salads, the fast casual salad is too expensive. So instead of $15 to $16 they're going to come to us for an $11 to $12 salad. And the salad we're promoting right now has super green lettuce, it has pepitas, queso fresco, of course our plains grilled chicken and we're offering shrimp as well. So when you compare it side by side with those salads on the upper end, I see a nice we're benefiting from trade down there. But then we give up some as people trade down on the lower end of QSR. Speaker 200:34:35So as we've got the guys out there running the crazy couple of dollar for this or that, the consumer that's really under pressure, sadly is going to trade down there. So, I think we're seeing all of that right now. Speaker 400:34:54Okay, fair enough. And then a final one for me and it was encouraging to hear, but I think mix has been running negative for a few quarters now. And when you were giving us the components of same store sales, it sounds like mix was up 100 basis points in the quarter. I guess what drove the positive swing and maybe duration either due to easier compares on the mix front or what you're doing on the menu? Just thoughts on the ability to keep the mix in a flat to positive place. Speaker 400:35:23Thanks. Speaker 100:35:24Yes. You're right on it starts a little bit with what you talked about a little easier compares from a standpoint because last year is when we started to see the headwinds from a mix standpoint. So that's a component of it. Another component of it for the quarter is as we talked a little bit earlier is we had less discounting during the quarter as well, which also helped from a mix standpoint. And then we just continue to see some positive benefits in our core tostadas as we promoted that kind of at the end of last quarter and into this quarter. Speaker 100:35:53And we're continuing to seeing that. And the quesadilla that we added to the menu and the crunchy taco drive a little mix as well, the new crunchy taco, which we added earlier in the year, but that also helped drive a little mix as well. Speaker 400:36:07So you're expecting durability of kind of positive mix for the next few quarters then, Ira? Operator00:36:12Yes. Speaker 400:36:14Okay, perfect. Thank you both. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:36:17Thank you. Operator00:36:18Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andy Barish with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:36:28Yes. Hey, guys. Just trying to tease out, I mean, the step down in food costs to low-25s is not something I think the brand's ever seen. So I mean pricing ramped up a little bit from 1Q. I'm just even thinking sequentially from 1Q to 2Q, but not that much, I guess, to account for 120 basis points sequentially. Speaker 500:36:53So, is it really the discounting and then the pulling back of the FSIs? And then did that have a direct effect, I guess, on the traffic numbers? And then also, as you turn answered the last question, helping boost the mix. I'm just trying to kind of put together all those pieces of the puzzle. Speaker 100:37:16Yes. So it's what you talked about. It was a little bit of the discounting, obviously the pricing, but it's a little in the mix as we've shifted our mix a little bit from the bone in chicken to the entree items, which have more leg and thigh meat, that's a lower cost item. And so we saw some mix in that of lower our cost as well, which also helped drive a lower food cost during the quarter. Speaker 200:37:42And I would also add that I think we're doing a better job of sourcing and we've invested in our supply chain team. And that's as I mentioned earlier, something we're going to continue to do, but certainly just being more pragmatic across the board. Speaker 500:38:00Yes. I wanted to dovetail on that if you could, Liz. I think you said, with some of the new leaders in those various areas that there's some investments, I guess, with headcount and such, but that it starts to turn into a benefit in the 4Q and beyond as the part of the bridge to that 18% possibility in 25%. Am I hearing that correctly? Speaker 200:38:31That's correct. That's correct. Speaker 500:38:34Okay. And then, I guess, just sort of an update in terms of where family meals stand in terms of your kind of everyday value proposition, how you kind of think about that business, how it's been acting over the last few months? Speaker 100:38:59It has still remained a little bit under pressure. I mean part of that is because we've been promoting the entree items, but we have seen that. We have as a percent of our mix it has declined, but it is very important part of our value proposition and our positioning because owning chicken is a big part of who we are. Speaker 200:39:22I would also say it remains one of our biggest value drivers. So when you look at the discounting and the couponing, the family chicken is one of the highest redeemed. So the person looking for the deal is usually that family chicken buyer. So they are a bit more of the price sensitive and that is also usually a dinner item. So in terms of people you're less likely to trade out and bring your lunch to work or go to the grocery store to substitute lunch, but you might do that. Speaker 200:39:57You might find that substitution for dinner. So that's also something, which again, it's just forcing us to go back as a system to figure out what's the right value equation, what's the right deal to be offering. Speaker 500:40:13Okay, got it. Thank you very much. Operator00:40:16You're welcome. Our next question comes from the line of Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:40:25Hi, good afternoon. I guess two questions. As we think about kind of the new unit prototype going down to 1,800,000 dollars build out cost. I mean, what are you value engineering in that? Is it just a smaller box? Speaker 600:40:42Is there anything meaningful you're doing on kitchen to take out costs? And then secondarily, on the kiosks, the kind of slower roll, are you going to have suggested selling now when you do have the kiosks rollout? Speaker 200:40:58Thanks for the question. I'll answer the last one first. So on the kiosk, definitely adding this or have the suggested selling and the additional can add to your burrito add or change things. So that is all enabled with the kiosk and something that clearly drives check once you get the kiosk in and fully full adoption. So we're excited about that. Speaker 200:41:24We really just wanted to slow down a bit to make sure that customer service was we're known for our customer service and we just we didn't want to be that environment where you walk in and you're just greeted by screens. So we saw that we had some room to take a beat and get it right and so we took that opportunity. And then as it relates to the build cost, the savings is coming from all over. So the first place I would point to is just reducing the size of the unit. Somehow we got into this world where we were building the units bigger than they needed to be, the dining rooms bigger than they needed to be. Speaker 200:42:02And in this world where drive through and delivery, especially with the 3rd party aggregators just continues to grow. We just didn't need that big of a dining room. And so we've reduced that to be about 2,200 square feet. So off of that, that's the savings. On the equipment package, we were over specking the equipment package. Speaker 200:42:21We were building out some elements of the kitchen bigger than we needed to build as well. And this is an area where Tim who just joined us leading development, he just came from an equipment provider and just as he knows that world inside and out and he's already brought some great ideas, try this and try that. So same savings there. And then the other place is just taking time to be more competitive and to in some of the design features. We were probably over designing the unit and of the design features, quite frankly, weren't modern. Speaker 200:43:00And so it was pretty easy to say, let's step back and rethink this and then redraw it and simplify and then go and rebid it. And so we've seen some nice savings on the construction costs as well. So it's not one thing, it's a list of many things that are going to get us to that 1.8. Okay. Thank you. Speaker 200:43:21You're welcome. Thank you. Operator00:43:25Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached to the end of today's question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Liz Williams for closing remarks. Speaker 200:43:38I just wanted to thank everyone again for joining us today. We're really pleased with the results for this quarter and we look forward to speaking with you in the next couple of weeks and months ahead. So thank you. Operator00:43:51Thank you. The conference of El Pollo Loco has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by