NYSE:HCC Warrior Met Coal Q2 2024 Earnings Report $46.02 -1.28 (-2.71%) As of 09:52 AM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Warrior Met Coal EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.35Consensus EPS $1.32Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPS$1.63Warrior Met Coal Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$396.52 millionExpected Revenue$387.91 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$8.61 millionYoY Revenue Growth+4.40%Warrior Met Coal Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/1/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 1, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Warrior Met Coal Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 1, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. My name is Drew, and I will be your conference call operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Warrior Second Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. Operator00:00:20This call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the company's website. I would like to turn the conference over to Deandre Wright, Vice President of External Affairs and Communications. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:38Good afternoon, and welcome, everyone, to Warrior's Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Before we begin, let me remind you that certain statements made during this call include statements relating to our expected future business and financial performance may be considered forward looking statements according to the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Forward looking statements, by their nature, address matters that are to different degrees uncertain. Those uncertainties, which are described in more detail in the company's annual and quarterly reports filed with the SEC, may cause our actual future results to be materially different from those expected in our forward looking statements. We do not undertake to update our forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as may be required by law. Speaker 100:01:33For more information regarding forward looking statements, please refer to the company's press releases and SEC filings. We will also be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures, which are defined and reconciled to comparable GAAP financial measures in our 2024 second quarter press release furnished to the SEC on Form 8 ks, which is also posted on our website. Additionally, we filed our 10 Q for the Q2 ended June 30, 2024 with the SEC this afternoon. You can find additional information regarding the company on our website atwww.warriormetcoal.com, which also includes the 2nd quarter supplemental slide deck that was posted this afternoon. On the call with me today are Mr. Speaker 100:02:22Walt Scheller, Chief Executive Officer and Mr. Dale Boyles, Chief Financial Officer. After our formal remarks, we'll be happy to take any questions. With that, I'll now turn the call Speaker 200:02:35over to Walt. Walt? Thanks, Deandre. Hello, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us today to discuss our Q2 2024 results. After my remarks, Dale will review our results in additional detail, and then you'll have the opportunity to ask questions. Speaker 200:02:54We delivered very strong results for the Q2 driven by our continued success in maximizing the benefits of our high quality assets our operational capabilities. Our highly successful operational performance led to double digit increases in both sales and production volumes despite weaker global demand, which led to strong financial performance of adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow. We generated $147,000,000 of cash from operations, which was used to fund $122,000,000 of CapEx and mine development during the Q2, resulting in free cash flow of $25,000,000 In addition, we continue to make excellent progress on Blue Creek, meeting several key milestones as we advance the development of this world class asset. This exceptional performance in the development of Blue Creek continue to drive value for our stockholders regardless of market factors. From a market perspective, the Q2 played out largely as we had expected with softer demand and stronger supply from all regions, resulting in a weaker steelmaking coal price environment. Speaker 200:04:06We were hoping to see signs of improving demand towards the end of the quarter, which did not materialize. In addition, we were surprised by the spot volume availability from Australia in May June. Customers recognized these favorable supply conditions and were patient in their buying approach. Other factors contributing to the weaker demand included Chinese steel exports at multiyear highs and global steel prices declining for most of the Q2, reflecting the softer steel demand across all regions. As a result, steelmaking coal prices extended the sharp decline that started in March. Speaker 200:04:46We saw 2 attempted price spikes during the 2nd quarter that were short lived as the market fundamentals were not supportive. We were again extremely pleased by the performance of our rail partner during the 2nd quarter as we were able to navigate the temporary loss of the barging system due to the failure of the Demopolis lock without any impact to our customers and with minimal impact to our costs. This lock was repaired and reopened towards the end of May, allowing us to return to moving our products on the river. Unfortunately, that reopening was short lived as the river system had to be closed again in late June due to the failure of the Holt lock unrelated to the Demopolis lock. Right now, we do not have an official repair plan from the local Corps of Engineers. Speaker 200:05:33However, we're planning as if the repairs will take as long as the Demopolis lock repairs of about 4 to 5 months. We expect to be able to manage the current Holt lock failure without interruption to our customers just as we did in the previous lock failure. The steep correction in pricing experienced in March continued into the beginning of the second quarter where we saw all indices establish recent lows around early April. Our primary index, the PLV, FOB Australia ended the 2nd quarter at $2.12 per short ton, which was $95 lower than its 1st quarter high of $307 per short ton. Likewise, the POV CFR China Index experienced a $76 decline during the same period, closing the 2nd quarter at a price of $2.24 per short ton. Speaker 200:06:28Similar declines were observed with 2nd tier indices, which were also lower relative to the PLV index, averaging between 86% to 90% for the 2nd quarter. High vol A prices ended the 2nd quarter at $192 per short ton and averaged $197 per short ton for the 2nd quarter. We achieved a consolidated gross price realization of 90% in the 2nd quarter, which was a function of product mix, geography and freight rates. According to the World Steel Association monthly report, global pig iron production decreased by approximately 2.6% for the 1st 6 months of 2024 as compared to the prior year period. Pig iron production in China, which is the world's largest production region, fell by 3.6% for the same period, whereas the rest of the world's production experienced a more modest decline of 0.3% for the first half of the year. Speaker 200:07:30India remains a bright spot with a growth rate of 2.7% and is expected to continue growing with new blast furnace capacity coming online later this year. Several other reasons also experienced positive growth for the period, such as select European countries and Brazil. However, their gains were largely offset by declining production from Japan and South Korea. Now let me turn to our 2nd quarter results. Our 2nd quarter sales volume of 2,100,000 short tons was 18% higher than the comparable quarter last year. Speaker 200:08:06The overall increase was primarily driven by both mines operating at higher capacity levels this year compared to last year, stable contractual demand from our traditional markets and solid Asian spot demand. Our sales by geography in the 2nd quarter break down as follows: 39% into Europe, 38% into Asia and 23% into South America. The majority of the sales into Asia in the second quarter to customers in Japan, China and India. As we've previously noted, demand from the Asian steel producers has been growing over the last year, resulting in higher sales to that geography, while sales from our traditional markets for Europe and South America have been lower primarily due to weak spot markets. Our spot volume was 30% in the Q2 2024, which was primarily sold into the Asian markets. Speaker 200:09:02This rate was lower than 37% in the Q1 of the year. For the full year, we expect our spot volume to approximately 25% 30% of total sales volume. Production volume in the 2nd quarter was 2,200,000 short tons compared to 1,900,000 short tons in the same quarter 2023, representing a 13% increase. This is the highest quarterly production output over the last 3 years. Both mines operated at higher capacity levels in the Q2 of this year compared to the same quarter last year. Speaker 200:09:37Our coal inventory increased slightly to 895,000 short tons from 892,000 short tons at the end of the Q1. During the Q2, we spent $122,000,000 on CapEx and mine development. CapEx spending was $111,000,000 which included $84,000,000 on the Blue Creek project. Mine development spending on Blue Creek project was $11,000,000 during the Q2 2024. As we begin developing the 1st longwall panel at Blue Creek in the 3rd quarter, our mine development costs will continue to grow in the second half of the year and until the longwall starts production, which we expect to occur in 2026. Speaker 200:10:23Next, I'd like to provide you with a progress report on our Blue Creek growth project, including updates on our remarkable development progress in the Q2 and what comes next. We've now completed major components for seam access on schedule, which include the production slope, service shaft, ventilation shaft and fan. The next major step is completing the installation of the service cage and the slope belt. Given our significant progress to date, we are able to begin development of the initial longwall panel with the 1st continuous miner unit expected in the Q3. On the surface infrastructure components, we completed the construction of the bathhouse, warehouse and critical electrical substations and made noteworthy progress on the construction of the preparation plan. Speaker 200:11:14On the coal transportation components, good progress was made on the construction of the run of mine and clean coal belt structures. Steady progress continued during the quarter on the rail and barge loadouts as well. All of these components remain on schedule. In addition, we are focused on increasing our headcount in Blue Creek by approximately 100 people by the end of the year and are on track to meet that goal. We are extremely excited that the longwall panel development is scheduled to begin on the originally expected timeline, and we are on track to produce approximately 200,000 short tons of High Vol A steelmaking coal in the second half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 200:11:55The development tons produced from the second half of this year to the first half of twenty twenty five are expected to be sold in the second half of twenty twenty five after the preparation plant comes online. On the financial side, Warrior invested $84,000,000 during the Q2 2024 on the development of Blue Creek, which brings the year to date spending to $153,000,000 The company expects to invest approximately $325,000,000 to $375,000,000 in 2024 on the continued development of the Blue Creek reserves, inclusive of the $153,000,000 already invested. The entire project to date through the end of the second quarter, we've invested a grand total of $519,000,000 We remain focused on tight capital spending discipline to ensure the project will be completed within our reset baseline cost estimate and on the original schedule, including the longwall startup in the Q2 of 2026. Blue Creek represents 1 of the last remaining untapped premium high quality high vol 8 coal reserves in the U. S, which we anticipate will achieve premium prices. Speaker 200:13:12Warrior expects incremental annualized production of 4,800,000 short tons of premium high vol A steelmaking coal after the start up of the longwall, which the company expects will enhance and strengthen its already strong global cost curve positioning and deliver incremental profit and cash flows. I'll now ask Dale to address our 2nd quarter results in greater detail. Speaker 300:13:36Thanks, Walt. Despite the weaker global demand for steelmaking coal in the Q2, we continued to deliver strong operational and financial performance by leveraging our high quality assets and strong operational competencies. Strong financial performance allows us to invest in the future of our company and drive incremental value for our stockholders. We are investing nearly $1,000,000,000 over 5 years in our company's future from the cash generated from our existing operations without taking on any additional financial leverage. In fact, we have deleveraged the company since the beginning of the development of Blue Creek and paid out incremental special dividends to our stockholders. Speaker 300:14:18That makes a strong statement about the high quality of our existing assets, our people and our focus on generating value for our stockholders. The opportunity at Blue Creek combined with our operational efficiency and strong existing assets means that Warrior has a very bright future ahead. Now let's look at the specific financial results for the Q2. For the Q2 of 2024, the company recorded net income on a GAAP basis of $71,000,000 or $1.35 per diluted share, compared to net income of $82,000,000 or $1.58 per diluted share in the same quarter of 2023. Non GAAP adjusted net income for the 2nd quarter, excluding the non recurring business interruption expenses, was $1.35 per diluted share. Speaker 300:15:11This compares to adjusted net income of $1.64 per diluted share in the same quarter of 2023. These decreases quarter over quarter were primarily driven by the 11% lower average net selling price and lower results from our gas business, partially offset by 18% higher sales volumes. We reported adjusted EBITDA of $116,000,000 in the Q2 of 2024 compared to $130,000,000 in the same quarter of last year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 29% in the Q2 of 2024 compared to 34% in the same quarter of last year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin per ton was $55 for the Q2 of this year. Speaker 300:15:59As I previously these decreases quarter over quarter were primarily driven by the 11% lower average net selling price and lower results from our gas business, which were partially offset by 18% higher sales volumes. Total revenues were $397,000,000 in the 2nd quarter compared to $380,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023. This overall increase of $17,000,000 was primarily due to the 18% increase in sales volume, offset by the 11% decrease in average net selling prices and higher demurrage and other charges. Demurrage and other charges were $4,000,000 higher compared to 2023 Q2. The merge and other charges resulted in an average net selling price of $186 per short term in the Q2 of 2024 compared to $209 per short ton in the same quarter of last year. Speaker 300:17:00Other revenues, mainly from our gas businesses, were lower in the Q2 of 2024 compared to the same quarter of last year, primarily due to a a was $260,000,000 or 67 percent of mining revenues compared to $229,000,000 or 62% of mining revenues in the Q2 of 2023. Of the $31,000,000 increase in cash cost of sales, $41,000,000 of the increase was driven primarily by the 18% increase in sales volumes and the higher employee wages and incentives associated with a higher headcount. This increase was offset partially by the decrease in cash cost of sales of $10,000,000 attributed to lower variable cost of transportation and royalties associated with lower steelmaking coal prices. Cash cost of sales per short ton, FOB port, was approximately $124 in the Q2 of this year compared to $129 in the Q2 of 2023. Our cash cost of production was 61% of our total cash cost per short ton compared to 59% last year. Speaker 300:18:19On a per ton basis, cost of production were flat in the 2nd quarter compared to the prior year quarter. This reflects the higher headcount and associated employee related wages and incentives that were offset by the higher production volumes. Overall transportation and royalty costs were 39% of our cash cost of sales per short ton in the Q2 of this year on lower average net selling prices compared to 41% in the same quarter last year. Transportation costs were about $3 per short ton lower due to lower average net selling prices and their impact on variable transportation costs. This was net of the $1 per short ton impact of the higher rail mix due to the Demopolis lock failure. Speaker 300:19:07Likewise, royalty costs were lower by about $2 per short ton on lower average net selling prices. As a result of these changes in our cash cost, our cash margin per short time was $62 in the 2nd quarter compared to $80 in the same quarter last year. SG and A expenses were about $15,000,000 or 3.9 percent of total revenues in the Q2 2024 and were slightly higher than 2023's Q2 of 3.5%, primarily due to an increase in employee related compensation expenses. The interest income earned on our cash investments was lower in the Q2 of this year, primarily due to lower average cash balances. Our interest expense was lower primarily due to the early retirement of debt in August of 2023 and the capitalization of interest to the construction of Blue Creek. Speaker 300:20:03Our low effective tax rate continues to reflect an income tax benefit for depletion expense in foreign derived intangible income. Turning to cash flow. During the Q2 of 2024, free cash flow was $25,000,000 This was a result of cash flows generated by operating activities of $147,000,000 less cash used for capital expenditures and mine development of 122 $1,000,000 Free cash flow was $48,000,000 higher than the Q2 of 2023, primarily due to higher operating cash flows and lower Blue Creek CapEx spending. Free cash flow in the Q2 of 2024 was positively impacted by a $29,000,000 decrease in net working capital from the end of the first quarter, primarily due to lower accounts receivable on timing of sales and lower steelmaking coal prices. Our total available liquidity at the end of the Q2 of 2024 was $816,000,000 and consisted of cash and cash equivalents of $709,000,000 $107,000,000 available under our ABL facility. Speaker 300:21:16Now let's turn to our outlook and guidance for the full year 2024. After another strong quarter of operational and financial performance despite weak demand in the global markets, we have reaffirmed our outlook and guidance for the full year as outlined in our earnings release. We did make a nonmaterial adjustment to interest expense by lowering the full year expected amount. I will now turn it back to Walt for his final comments. Speaker 200:21:41Thanks, Dale. Before we move on to Q and A, I'd like to make some final comments. We're expecting demand to increase as the second half of the year progresses, although we still do not have firm signals and are therefore cautious. We will continue to be patient when possible and seek opportunities that maximize price realizations even if we need to temporarily manage higher than normal inventory levels. We do not expect any meaningful demand improvements in our traditional markets of Europe and South America, but are expecting to see demand improve in certain geographies like India and Southeast Asia. Speaker 200:22:19As for China, we anticipate still making coal production cuts will be implemented in the second half of the year as the recent stimulus efforts have failed to improve demand. We believe the steelmaking coal supply will be slightly tighter in the second half of the year due to a combination of supply disruptions, like the mine fires, formal mine maintenance and longwall moves in Australia. We are well positioned operationally and from an inventory level standpoint to capitalize on increasing market demand in the second half of the year. While we're well prepared to address a variety of market conditions, we're also extremely excited and laser focused on the disciplined development of our world class Blue Creek reserves. We are on track for the 1st development of tons from continuous miner units in the Q3 of 2024 with the longwall scheduled to start up in the Q2 of 2026. Speaker 200:23:13With that, we'd like to open the call for questions. Operator? Speaker 400:23:56Well, Dale, congrats on the progress at Blue Creek. And I wanted to ask about your key milestones for the project between now and the end of the year. And then I also wanted to ask, who will have the honor to mine the first ton of coal with the continuous miner unit in Q3? Thank you all very much for your perspective. Speaker 200:24:18Thank you. Key milestones will be getting that first continuous miner unit up and running, which will happen pretty quickly here. It will happen in the Q3. And then the other key milestone will be getting that second continuous miner unit running before the end of the year after we've cleared enough space with the 1st continuous monitor unit. We've talked about the completion of the slope and the slope belt is being installed now. Speaker 200:24:49We'll have the service cage up and running pretty quickly here in Q3. So, the real key moments are beginning those first two continuous miner units running. And I have no doubt that our mine manager over there will insist that he be the one to make the first cut with the continuous miner. Speaker 400:25:13That's understandable. Thank you. Thank you all for that color. In terms of your annual guidance, when I look at the midpoint, it implies about 3,500,000 tons of production in the second half versus first half at 4,200,000 tons. So quite a bit of a pullback. Speaker 400:25:39And I wondered, is there anything that you see and I appreciate that's at the midpoint, but is there anything that you see operationally that would call for that reduction or is that a degree of conservatism either operationally or because of where the market is? Thank you very much for your perspective. Speaker 200:25:58We always like to underpromise and overdeliver. But frankly, we've got 3 longwall moves that will occur. And while we have shields and those should be 0 day moves, you still have to slow down towards the end of the panel in order to complete the meshing process and get that face bolted up before we move over to start the new longwall face. So that'll be on all three of those longwall moves. And then we also have we always expect that around the holidays, between absenteeism and just trying to give people a little extra time off, we expect a reduction in our production levels. Speaker 400:26:40Thank you. And then the cost guidance related to that conservatism as well, you had a nice improvement there quarter over quarter. Speaker 300:26:49Yes. Lucas, this is Dale. I mean, if you look at our year to date, we're right on track of where we said we would be in our range. So when you look at where prices are versus what our guidance is built on, we're pretty much in line with all that. So all that seems to be actually unfolding as we said. Speaker 300:27:10So we feel good about where we are. Speaker 400:27:15All right. Well, I appreciate the color and to the entire team, best of luck. Thank you. Speaker 200:27:20All right. Thank you. Thank you, Lucas. Operator00:27:24The next question comes from Nathan Martin with The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:27:31Yeah. Thanks, operator. Good afternoon, guys. Speaker 500:27:35Maybe start on the pricing side. Walt, it sounds like you said capture rate up to about 90% this quarter, which is better than I believe it's 84% in the Q1. So I'm guessing likely aided a bit by the quarter over quarter decline in net prices. But you guys still feel confident that where it can hit kind of that 85% to 90 percent bogey that Dale mentioned previously, the Aussie benchmark for the full year? Or should we assume maybe given the higher high vol A production that we're seeing from Mine 4, which I think is running at pretty near record levels at least through the first half, and still that wider than historical spread between high vol A and the benchmark that maybe it ends up being a little bit lower than that range? Speaker 500:28:17Just would be great to get your thoughts. Speaker 200:28:20Well, actually, we've seen the spread close back up a little bit, which is very positive. And I think your first comment about the declining price pushing those relativities up higher is very that's very accurate. And I think what we'll see is if we see continued declining prices, unfortunately, I think you'd continue to see that percentage go up or stay up. However, I do feel confident that I'm hoping the price will go back up and I'd rather see the spread in our percentage go down a little bit because we have a rising coal price. But we're still pretty confident in that 85% to 90% range. Speaker 500:29:03Right. I completely understand that mentality, Walt. Maybe just related to then the cadence of shipments for the remainder of the year. I know you guys mentioned 3 longwall moves in the 2 in Q3, 1 in Q4, if I remember correctly. You mentioned a slight build in inventories quarter over quarter. Speaker 500:29:24When would you expect maybe some of those inventories to be drawn down, whether it be Q3, Q4? Just any specific thoughts or drivers around shipments between the quarters and the last half of the year? Speaker 200:29:37I think the first thing we have to remember here is, as we've said, we're going to mine a couple 100,000 tons out of Blue Creek, which is going to be incremental inventory. So, if we just maintain our inventory levels flat for 47, we actually increase inventory by 200,000 tons. In terms of working that inventory down, as I said, we're going to be very patient. We are not going to jump in the market just to dump tons. We don't need to do that. Speaker 200:30:05So, we're going to be. And if we see market opportunities that, in our opinion, justify going ahead and moving additional coal, we'll do that. But we don't feel pressured to do so. Speaker 300:30:20Yes, Nate, this is Dale. I'll just add to that. If you look at last year, if you remember, Q3, we really pushed a lot of volume out to introduce our products into Asia. And then we pulled back in the Q4 and we only shipped about $1,500,000 last year. So we try to take advantage of the market situations when we can and if we think the latter half of the year prices are going to increase, then we're going to be a little more patient with our approach. Speaker 300:30:53So Q3 could be a little lower and Q4 could be a little higher. It just really depends on what the market customer demand is so that we maximize price. Speaker 500:31:06Got it. Thanks, Dale. Thanks, Walt. And then maybe just one last question on Blue Creek. It's one I get from investors fairly often. Speaker 500:31:15Looking to the slide deck, obviously, some of these numbers are a little stale at this point, but specifically focused on the cash costs and the possibilities around the Blue Creek product. I know you guys have said that it should eventually help lower the overall cash cost, average cash cost for Warrior. Your slide deck is still showing around $70 or so, but maybe can we just get some thoughts on where that number could look like once you guys update some of these economics, especially given some of the inflationary pressures that we've already applied to the CapEx budget? Thanks. Speaker 300:31:56No, good question, Nate. Look, we do expect to be updating all those project economics. As we said, the scope change last year really had no effect on because we had the improvement in transportation costs and everything. So no net impact on the overall economics. I actually think they're going to be better with the higher met coal pricing assumption. Speaker 300:32:20So sometime next year, we'll get that information back out. But that $70 all in before we've been talking about the inflation and supplies and everything being 30%, 35%. So if you tack that on, you're starting to get to where we think it will be. Now I don't know if that's the exact number, but that's a pretty good idea of where we're probably headed right now. Speaker 500:32:51Great. Thanks for that update, Dale. I'll leave it there. Appreciate the time. Best of luck in the second half. Speaker 200:32:57Thank you. Operator00:33:06The next question comes from Katya Yancek with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:33:14Hi. Thank you for taking my question. I think in the prepared remarks, Walt, you mentioned that the spot exposure in 2024 is going to be between 25% to 30%. Is that a bit higher than what was previously expected? I thought initially the expectation was around 25 percent? Speaker 200:33:34I think we had said 25% to 30% all along. But the issue is there's been really no materialization of spot activity in Europe or South America at all. So it's just having to continue to move the coal into Asia and a lot of that's happening in the spot market. Speaker 600:34:00Is it in the near term because as you mentioned right now the spot activity is a little softer that the spot volume could be or the spot exposure could be lower during let's say the Q3? Speaker 200:34:15Yes, it could be. Again, we were at 37% in Q1, down to 30% in Q2, and we're still saying 25% to 30%. So it has to go down. In order for us to hit our range, it has to be below 30 in the 3rd or Q4 to drag our number down where we believe it will end up. Speaker 600:34:37And one more, if I may. Longer term, once Blue Creek starts ramping up, does that exposure change? Speaker 200:34:46I think that exposure increases the 1st couple of years of Blue Creek as you're putting another 4,800,000 short tons into the market and getting that coal established and finding homes for it. So I think the percentage of spot will increase for that term for the next few years. Speaker 600:35:12Okay, perfect. Thank you. Speaker 200:35:14Thank you. Operator00:35:17At this time, there are no further questions. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Scheller for any comments. Speaker 200:35:24That concludes our call this afternoon. Thank you again for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Warrior. Operator00:35:31The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. My name is Drew, and I will be your conference call operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Warrior Second Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. Operator00:00:20This call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the company's website. I would like to turn the conference over to Deandre Wright, Vice President of External Affairs and Communications. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:38Good afternoon, and welcome, everyone, to Warrior's Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Before we begin, let me remind you that certain statements made during this call include statements relating to our expected future business and financial performance may be considered forward looking statements according to the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Forward looking statements, by their nature, address matters that are to different degrees uncertain. Those uncertainties, which are described in more detail in the company's annual and quarterly reports filed with the SEC, may cause our actual future results to be materially different from those expected in our forward looking statements. We do not undertake to update our forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as may be required by law. Speaker 100:01:33For more information regarding forward looking statements, please refer to the company's press releases and SEC filings. We will also be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures, which are defined and reconciled to comparable GAAP financial measures in our 2024 second quarter press release furnished to the SEC on Form 8 ks, which is also posted on our website. Additionally, we filed our 10 Q for the Q2 ended June 30, 2024 with the SEC this afternoon. You can find additional information regarding the company on our website atwww.warriormetcoal.com, which also includes the 2nd quarter supplemental slide deck that was posted this afternoon. On the call with me today are Mr. Speaker 100:02:22Walt Scheller, Chief Executive Officer and Mr. Dale Boyles, Chief Financial Officer. After our formal remarks, we'll be happy to take any questions. With that, I'll now turn the call Speaker 200:02:35over to Walt. Walt? Thanks, Deandre. Hello, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us today to discuss our Q2 2024 results. After my remarks, Dale will review our results in additional detail, and then you'll have the opportunity to ask questions. Speaker 200:02:54We delivered very strong results for the Q2 driven by our continued success in maximizing the benefits of our high quality assets our operational capabilities. Our highly successful operational performance led to double digit increases in both sales and production volumes despite weaker global demand, which led to strong financial performance of adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow. We generated $147,000,000 of cash from operations, which was used to fund $122,000,000 of CapEx and mine development during the Q2, resulting in free cash flow of $25,000,000 In addition, we continue to make excellent progress on Blue Creek, meeting several key milestones as we advance the development of this world class asset. This exceptional performance in the development of Blue Creek continue to drive value for our stockholders regardless of market factors. From a market perspective, the Q2 played out largely as we had expected with softer demand and stronger supply from all regions, resulting in a weaker steelmaking coal price environment. Speaker 200:04:06We were hoping to see signs of improving demand towards the end of the quarter, which did not materialize. In addition, we were surprised by the spot volume availability from Australia in May June. Customers recognized these favorable supply conditions and were patient in their buying approach. Other factors contributing to the weaker demand included Chinese steel exports at multiyear highs and global steel prices declining for most of the Q2, reflecting the softer steel demand across all regions. As a result, steelmaking coal prices extended the sharp decline that started in March. Speaker 200:04:46We saw 2 attempted price spikes during the 2nd quarter that were short lived as the market fundamentals were not supportive. We were again extremely pleased by the performance of our rail partner during the 2nd quarter as we were able to navigate the temporary loss of the barging system due to the failure of the Demopolis lock without any impact to our customers and with minimal impact to our costs. This lock was repaired and reopened towards the end of May, allowing us to return to moving our products on the river. Unfortunately, that reopening was short lived as the river system had to be closed again in late June due to the failure of the Holt lock unrelated to the Demopolis lock. Right now, we do not have an official repair plan from the local Corps of Engineers. Speaker 200:05:33However, we're planning as if the repairs will take as long as the Demopolis lock repairs of about 4 to 5 months. We expect to be able to manage the current Holt lock failure without interruption to our customers just as we did in the previous lock failure. The steep correction in pricing experienced in March continued into the beginning of the second quarter where we saw all indices establish recent lows around early April. Our primary index, the PLV, FOB Australia ended the 2nd quarter at $2.12 per short ton, which was $95 lower than its 1st quarter high of $307 per short ton. Likewise, the POV CFR China Index experienced a $76 decline during the same period, closing the 2nd quarter at a price of $2.24 per short ton. Speaker 200:06:28Similar declines were observed with 2nd tier indices, which were also lower relative to the PLV index, averaging between 86% to 90% for the 2nd quarter. High vol A prices ended the 2nd quarter at $192 per short ton and averaged $197 per short ton for the 2nd quarter. We achieved a consolidated gross price realization of 90% in the 2nd quarter, which was a function of product mix, geography and freight rates. According to the World Steel Association monthly report, global pig iron production decreased by approximately 2.6% for the 1st 6 months of 2024 as compared to the prior year period. Pig iron production in China, which is the world's largest production region, fell by 3.6% for the same period, whereas the rest of the world's production experienced a more modest decline of 0.3% for the first half of the year. Speaker 200:07:30India remains a bright spot with a growth rate of 2.7% and is expected to continue growing with new blast furnace capacity coming online later this year. Several other reasons also experienced positive growth for the period, such as select European countries and Brazil. However, their gains were largely offset by declining production from Japan and South Korea. Now let me turn to our 2nd quarter results. Our 2nd quarter sales volume of 2,100,000 short tons was 18% higher than the comparable quarter last year. Speaker 200:08:06The overall increase was primarily driven by both mines operating at higher capacity levels this year compared to last year, stable contractual demand from our traditional markets and solid Asian spot demand. Our sales by geography in the 2nd quarter break down as follows: 39% into Europe, 38% into Asia and 23% into South America. The majority of the sales into Asia in the second quarter to customers in Japan, China and India. As we've previously noted, demand from the Asian steel producers has been growing over the last year, resulting in higher sales to that geography, while sales from our traditional markets for Europe and South America have been lower primarily due to weak spot markets. Our spot volume was 30% in the Q2 2024, which was primarily sold into the Asian markets. Speaker 200:09:02This rate was lower than 37% in the Q1 of the year. For the full year, we expect our spot volume to approximately 25% 30% of total sales volume. Production volume in the 2nd quarter was 2,200,000 short tons compared to 1,900,000 short tons in the same quarter 2023, representing a 13% increase. This is the highest quarterly production output over the last 3 years. Both mines operated at higher capacity levels in the Q2 of this year compared to the same quarter last year. Speaker 200:09:37Our coal inventory increased slightly to 895,000 short tons from 892,000 short tons at the end of the Q1. During the Q2, we spent $122,000,000 on CapEx and mine development. CapEx spending was $111,000,000 which included $84,000,000 on the Blue Creek project. Mine development spending on Blue Creek project was $11,000,000 during the Q2 2024. As we begin developing the 1st longwall panel at Blue Creek in the 3rd quarter, our mine development costs will continue to grow in the second half of the year and until the longwall starts production, which we expect to occur in 2026. Speaker 200:10:23Next, I'd like to provide you with a progress report on our Blue Creek growth project, including updates on our remarkable development progress in the Q2 and what comes next. We've now completed major components for seam access on schedule, which include the production slope, service shaft, ventilation shaft and fan. The next major step is completing the installation of the service cage and the slope belt. Given our significant progress to date, we are able to begin development of the initial longwall panel with the 1st continuous miner unit expected in the Q3. On the surface infrastructure components, we completed the construction of the bathhouse, warehouse and critical electrical substations and made noteworthy progress on the construction of the preparation plan. Speaker 200:11:14On the coal transportation components, good progress was made on the construction of the run of mine and clean coal belt structures. Steady progress continued during the quarter on the rail and barge loadouts as well. All of these components remain on schedule. In addition, we are focused on increasing our headcount in Blue Creek by approximately 100 people by the end of the year and are on track to meet that goal. We are extremely excited that the longwall panel development is scheduled to begin on the originally expected timeline, and we are on track to produce approximately 200,000 short tons of High Vol A steelmaking coal in the second half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 200:11:55The development tons produced from the second half of this year to the first half of twenty twenty five are expected to be sold in the second half of twenty twenty five after the preparation plant comes online. On the financial side, Warrior invested $84,000,000 during the Q2 2024 on the development of Blue Creek, which brings the year to date spending to $153,000,000 The company expects to invest approximately $325,000,000 to $375,000,000 in 2024 on the continued development of the Blue Creek reserves, inclusive of the $153,000,000 already invested. The entire project to date through the end of the second quarter, we've invested a grand total of $519,000,000 We remain focused on tight capital spending discipline to ensure the project will be completed within our reset baseline cost estimate and on the original schedule, including the longwall startup in the Q2 of 2026. Blue Creek represents 1 of the last remaining untapped premium high quality high vol 8 coal reserves in the U. S, which we anticipate will achieve premium prices. Speaker 200:13:12Warrior expects incremental annualized production of 4,800,000 short tons of premium high vol A steelmaking coal after the start up of the longwall, which the company expects will enhance and strengthen its already strong global cost curve positioning and deliver incremental profit and cash flows. I'll now ask Dale to address our 2nd quarter results in greater detail. Speaker 300:13:36Thanks, Walt. Despite the weaker global demand for steelmaking coal in the Q2, we continued to deliver strong operational and financial performance by leveraging our high quality assets and strong operational competencies. Strong financial performance allows us to invest in the future of our company and drive incremental value for our stockholders. We are investing nearly $1,000,000,000 over 5 years in our company's future from the cash generated from our existing operations without taking on any additional financial leverage. In fact, we have deleveraged the company since the beginning of the development of Blue Creek and paid out incremental special dividends to our stockholders. Speaker 300:14:18That makes a strong statement about the high quality of our existing assets, our people and our focus on generating value for our stockholders. The opportunity at Blue Creek combined with our operational efficiency and strong existing assets means that Warrior has a very bright future ahead. Now let's look at the specific financial results for the Q2. For the Q2 of 2024, the company recorded net income on a GAAP basis of $71,000,000 or $1.35 per diluted share, compared to net income of $82,000,000 or $1.58 per diluted share in the same quarter of 2023. Non GAAP adjusted net income for the 2nd quarter, excluding the non recurring business interruption expenses, was $1.35 per diluted share. Speaker 300:15:11This compares to adjusted net income of $1.64 per diluted share in the same quarter of 2023. These decreases quarter over quarter were primarily driven by the 11% lower average net selling price and lower results from our gas business, partially offset by 18% higher sales volumes. We reported adjusted EBITDA of $116,000,000 in the Q2 of 2024 compared to $130,000,000 in the same quarter of last year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 29% in the Q2 of 2024 compared to 34% in the same quarter of last year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin per ton was $55 for the Q2 of this year. Speaker 300:15:59As I previously these decreases quarter over quarter were primarily driven by the 11% lower average net selling price and lower results from our gas business, which were partially offset by 18% higher sales volumes. Total revenues were $397,000,000 in the 2nd quarter compared to $380,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023. This overall increase of $17,000,000 was primarily due to the 18% increase in sales volume, offset by the 11% decrease in average net selling prices and higher demurrage and other charges. Demurrage and other charges were $4,000,000 higher compared to 2023 Q2. The merge and other charges resulted in an average net selling price of $186 per short term in the Q2 of 2024 compared to $209 per short ton in the same quarter of last year. Speaker 300:17:00Other revenues, mainly from our gas businesses, were lower in the Q2 of 2024 compared to the same quarter of last year, primarily due to a a was $260,000,000 or 67 percent of mining revenues compared to $229,000,000 or 62% of mining revenues in the Q2 of 2023. Of the $31,000,000 increase in cash cost of sales, $41,000,000 of the increase was driven primarily by the 18% increase in sales volumes and the higher employee wages and incentives associated with a higher headcount. This increase was offset partially by the decrease in cash cost of sales of $10,000,000 attributed to lower variable cost of transportation and royalties associated with lower steelmaking coal prices. Cash cost of sales per short ton, FOB port, was approximately $124 in the Q2 of this year compared to $129 in the Q2 of 2023. Our cash cost of production was 61% of our total cash cost per short ton compared to 59% last year. Speaker 300:18:19On a per ton basis, cost of production were flat in the 2nd quarter compared to the prior year quarter. This reflects the higher headcount and associated employee related wages and incentives that were offset by the higher production volumes. Overall transportation and royalty costs were 39% of our cash cost of sales per short ton in the Q2 of this year on lower average net selling prices compared to 41% in the same quarter last year. Transportation costs were about $3 per short ton lower due to lower average net selling prices and their impact on variable transportation costs. This was net of the $1 per short ton impact of the higher rail mix due to the Demopolis lock failure. Speaker 300:19:07Likewise, royalty costs were lower by about $2 per short ton on lower average net selling prices. As a result of these changes in our cash cost, our cash margin per short time was $62 in the 2nd quarter compared to $80 in the same quarter last year. SG and A expenses were about $15,000,000 or 3.9 percent of total revenues in the Q2 2024 and were slightly higher than 2023's Q2 of 3.5%, primarily due to an increase in employee related compensation expenses. The interest income earned on our cash investments was lower in the Q2 of this year, primarily due to lower average cash balances. Our interest expense was lower primarily due to the early retirement of debt in August of 2023 and the capitalization of interest to the construction of Blue Creek. Speaker 300:20:03Our low effective tax rate continues to reflect an income tax benefit for depletion expense in foreign derived intangible income. Turning to cash flow. During the Q2 of 2024, free cash flow was $25,000,000 This was a result of cash flows generated by operating activities of $147,000,000 less cash used for capital expenditures and mine development of 122 $1,000,000 Free cash flow was $48,000,000 higher than the Q2 of 2023, primarily due to higher operating cash flows and lower Blue Creek CapEx spending. Free cash flow in the Q2 of 2024 was positively impacted by a $29,000,000 decrease in net working capital from the end of the first quarter, primarily due to lower accounts receivable on timing of sales and lower steelmaking coal prices. Our total available liquidity at the end of the Q2 of 2024 was $816,000,000 and consisted of cash and cash equivalents of $709,000,000 $107,000,000 available under our ABL facility. Speaker 300:21:16Now let's turn to our outlook and guidance for the full year 2024. After another strong quarter of operational and financial performance despite weak demand in the global markets, we have reaffirmed our outlook and guidance for the full year as outlined in our earnings release. We did make a nonmaterial adjustment to interest expense by lowering the full year expected amount. I will now turn it back to Walt for his final comments. Speaker 200:21:41Thanks, Dale. Before we move on to Q and A, I'd like to make some final comments. We're expecting demand to increase as the second half of the year progresses, although we still do not have firm signals and are therefore cautious. We will continue to be patient when possible and seek opportunities that maximize price realizations even if we need to temporarily manage higher than normal inventory levels. We do not expect any meaningful demand improvements in our traditional markets of Europe and South America, but are expecting to see demand improve in certain geographies like India and Southeast Asia. Speaker 200:22:19As for China, we anticipate still making coal production cuts will be implemented in the second half of the year as the recent stimulus efforts have failed to improve demand. We believe the steelmaking coal supply will be slightly tighter in the second half of the year due to a combination of supply disruptions, like the mine fires, formal mine maintenance and longwall moves in Australia. We are well positioned operationally and from an inventory level standpoint to capitalize on increasing market demand in the second half of the year. While we're well prepared to address a variety of market conditions, we're also extremely excited and laser focused on the disciplined development of our world class Blue Creek reserves. We are on track for the 1st development of tons from continuous miner units in the Q3 of 2024 with the longwall scheduled to start up in the Q2 of 2026. Speaker 200:23:13With that, we'd like to open the call for questions. Operator? Speaker 400:23:56Well, Dale, congrats on the progress at Blue Creek. And I wanted to ask about your key milestones for the project between now and the end of the year. And then I also wanted to ask, who will have the honor to mine the first ton of coal with the continuous miner unit in Q3? Thank you all very much for your perspective. Speaker 200:24:18Thank you. Key milestones will be getting that first continuous miner unit up and running, which will happen pretty quickly here. It will happen in the Q3. And then the other key milestone will be getting that second continuous miner unit running before the end of the year after we've cleared enough space with the 1st continuous monitor unit. We've talked about the completion of the slope and the slope belt is being installed now. Speaker 200:24:49We'll have the service cage up and running pretty quickly here in Q3. So, the real key moments are beginning those first two continuous miner units running. And I have no doubt that our mine manager over there will insist that he be the one to make the first cut with the continuous miner. Speaker 400:25:13That's understandable. Thank you. Thank you all for that color. In terms of your annual guidance, when I look at the midpoint, it implies about 3,500,000 tons of production in the second half versus first half at 4,200,000 tons. So quite a bit of a pullback. Speaker 400:25:39And I wondered, is there anything that you see and I appreciate that's at the midpoint, but is there anything that you see operationally that would call for that reduction or is that a degree of conservatism either operationally or because of where the market is? Thank you very much for your perspective. Speaker 200:25:58We always like to underpromise and overdeliver. But frankly, we've got 3 longwall moves that will occur. And while we have shields and those should be 0 day moves, you still have to slow down towards the end of the panel in order to complete the meshing process and get that face bolted up before we move over to start the new longwall face. So that'll be on all three of those longwall moves. And then we also have we always expect that around the holidays, between absenteeism and just trying to give people a little extra time off, we expect a reduction in our production levels. Speaker 400:26:40Thank you. And then the cost guidance related to that conservatism as well, you had a nice improvement there quarter over quarter. Speaker 300:26:49Yes. Lucas, this is Dale. I mean, if you look at our year to date, we're right on track of where we said we would be in our range. So when you look at where prices are versus what our guidance is built on, we're pretty much in line with all that. So all that seems to be actually unfolding as we said. Speaker 300:27:10So we feel good about where we are. Speaker 400:27:15All right. Well, I appreciate the color and to the entire team, best of luck. Thank you. Speaker 200:27:20All right. Thank you. Thank you, Lucas. Operator00:27:24The next question comes from Nathan Martin with The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:27:31Yeah. Thanks, operator. Good afternoon, guys. Speaker 500:27:35Maybe start on the pricing side. Walt, it sounds like you said capture rate up to about 90% this quarter, which is better than I believe it's 84% in the Q1. So I'm guessing likely aided a bit by the quarter over quarter decline in net prices. But you guys still feel confident that where it can hit kind of that 85% to 90 percent bogey that Dale mentioned previously, the Aussie benchmark for the full year? Or should we assume maybe given the higher high vol A production that we're seeing from Mine 4, which I think is running at pretty near record levels at least through the first half, and still that wider than historical spread between high vol A and the benchmark that maybe it ends up being a little bit lower than that range? Speaker 500:28:17Just would be great to get your thoughts. Speaker 200:28:20Well, actually, we've seen the spread close back up a little bit, which is very positive. And I think your first comment about the declining price pushing those relativities up higher is very that's very accurate. And I think what we'll see is if we see continued declining prices, unfortunately, I think you'd continue to see that percentage go up or stay up. However, I do feel confident that I'm hoping the price will go back up and I'd rather see the spread in our percentage go down a little bit because we have a rising coal price. But we're still pretty confident in that 85% to 90% range. Speaker 500:29:03Right. I completely understand that mentality, Walt. Maybe just related to then the cadence of shipments for the remainder of the year. I know you guys mentioned 3 longwall moves in the 2 in Q3, 1 in Q4, if I remember correctly. You mentioned a slight build in inventories quarter over quarter. Speaker 500:29:24When would you expect maybe some of those inventories to be drawn down, whether it be Q3, Q4? Just any specific thoughts or drivers around shipments between the quarters and the last half of the year? Speaker 200:29:37I think the first thing we have to remember here is, as we've said, we're going to mine a couple 100,000 tons out of Blue Creek, which is going to be incremental inventory. So, if we just maintain our inventory levels flat for 47, we actually increase inventory by 200,000 tons. In terms of working that inventory down, as I said, we're going to be very patient. We are not going to jump in the market just to dump tons. We don't need to do that. Speaker 200:30:05So, we're going to be. And if we see market opportunities that, in our opinion, justify going ahead and moving additional coal, we'll do that. But we don't feel pressured to do so. Speaker 300:30:20Yes, Nate, this is Dale. I'll just add to that. If you look at last year, if you remember, Q3, we really pushed a lot of volume out to introduce our products into Asia. And then we pulled back in the Q4 and we only shipped about $1,500,000 last year. So we try to take advantage of the market situations when we can and if we think the latter half of the year prices are going to increase, then we're going to be a little more patient with our approach. Speaker 300:30:53So Q3 could be a little lower and Q4 could be a little higher. It just really depends on what the market customer demand is so that we maximize price. Speaker 500:31:06Got it. Thanks, Dale. Thanks, Walt. And then maybe just one last question on Blue Creek. It's one I get from investors fairly often. Speaker 500:31:15Looking to the slide deck, obviously, some of these numbers are a little stale at this point, but specifically focused on the cash costs and the possibilities around the Blue Creek product. I know you guys have said that it should eventually help lower the overall cash cost, average cash cost for Warrior. Your slide deck is still showing around $70 or so, but maybe can we just get some thoughts on where that number could look like once you guys update some of these economics, especially given some of the inflationary pressures that we've already applied to the CapEx budget? Thanks. Speaker 300:31:56No, good question, Nate. Look, we do expect to be updating all those project economics. As we said, the scope change last year really had no effect on because we had the improvement in transportation costs and everything. So no net impact on the overall economics. I actually think they're going to be better with the higher met coal pricing assumption. Speaker 300:32:20So sometime next year, we'll get that information back out. But that $70 all in before we've been talking about the inflation and supplies and everything being 30%, 35%. So if you tack that on, you're starting to get to where we think it will be. Now I don't know if that's the exact number, but that's a pretty good idea of where we're probably headed right now. Speaker 500:32:51Great. Thanks for that update, Dale. I'll leave it there. Appreciate the time. Best of luck in the second half. Speaker 200:32:57Thank you. Operator00:33:06The next question comes from Katya Yancek with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:33:14Hi. Thank you for taking my question. I think in the prepared remarks, Walt, you mentioned that the spot exposure in 2024 is going to be between 25% to 30%. Is that a bit higher than what was previously expected? I thought initially the expectation was around 25 percent? Speaker 200:33:34I think we had said 25% to 30% all along. But the issue is there's been really no materialization of spot activity in Europe or South America at all. So it's just having to continue to move the coal into Asia and a lot of that's happening in the spot market. Speaker 600:34:00Is it in the near term because as you mentioned right now the spot activity is a little softer that the spot volume could be or the spot exposure could be lower during let's say the Q3? Speaker 200:34:15Yes, it could be. Again, we were at 37% in Q1, down to 30% in Q2, and we're still saying 25% to 30%. So it has to go down. In order for us to hit our range, it has to be below 30 in the 3rd or Q4 to drag our number down where we believe it will end up. Speaker 600:34:37And one more, if I may. Longer term, once Blue Creek starts ramping up, does that exposure change? Speaker 200:34:46I think that exposure increases the 1st couple of years of Blue Creek as you're putting another 4,800,000 short tons into the market and getting that coal established and finding homes for it. So I think the percentage of spot will increase for that term for the next few years. Speaker 600:35:12Okay, perfect. Thank you. Speaker 200:35:14Thank you. Operator00:35:17At this time, there are no further questions. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Scheller for any comments. Speaker 200:35:24That concludes our call this afternoon. Thank you again for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Warrior. Operator00:35:31The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by