NASDAQ:MDAI Spectral AI Q2 2024 Earnings Report $1.27 -0.02 (-1.55%) Closing price 05/2/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$1.28 +0.01 (+1.18%) As of 05/2/2025 07:57 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Spectral AI EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.16Consensus EPS -$0.14Beat/MissMissed by -$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/ASpectral AI Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$7.48 millionExpected Revenue$6.00 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.48 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ASpectral AI Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/12/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, August 12, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsSpectral AI's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Spectral AI Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 12, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Spectral AI Inc. 2nd Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. Operator00:00:30I would now like to turn the conference over to Devin Sullivan of The Equity Group. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:37Thank you, Nick. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Spectral AI's 2024 Second Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. Our speakers for today will be Peter Carlson, Chief Executive Officer and Vince Capone, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that during this call, certain statements may be made that constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements regarding the company's strategy, plans, objectives, initiatives and financial outlook. Speaker 100:01:13When used during these discussions, the words estimates, projected, expects, anticipates, forecasts, plans, intends, believes, seek, may, will, should and variations of these words or similar expressions or the negative versions of such words or expressions are intended to identify forward looking statements. These forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, conditions or results and involve a number of known and unknown risks, uncertainties, assumptions and other important factors, many of which are outside the company's control that could cause actual results or outcomes to differ materially from those discussed in the forward looking statements. As such, investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any forward looking statements. Investors should carefully consider the foregoing factors and the other risks and uncertainties described in the Risk Factors sections of the company's filings with the SEC. These filings identify and address other important risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events and results to differ materially from those contained in the forward looking statements. Speaker 100:02:21With that said, I would now like to turn the call over to Pete Carlson, Spectral AI's Chief Executive Officer. Pete, please go Speaker 200:02:30ahead. Thank you, Devin, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today for our Q2 financial results conference call. We had strong revenues in the Q2, and I'm pleased to say we are making significant progress in advancing our proprietary AI driven DeepView system wound assessment platform technology. Our focus as a company is to achieve product commercialization for a technology that we believe will improve patient while providing tangible economic and operational benefits across the healthcare system. Speaker 200:03:08We have spent more than 10 years creating the Deep View platform, which we believe is the only AI driven predictive medical diagnostic tool that supports the delivery of a fast, accurate and informed wound assessment. The development of DeepView reflects more than $250,000,000 of non dilutive government awards, multiple successful clinical trials that validate the accuracy and utility of our technology and a commitment from a dedicated group of executives, engineers, clinicians and partner institutions. The evolution of our business from an exclusively clinical development stage company to development along with product commercialization will manifest with the first commercial sales of our DeepView technology for the burn indication in the United Kingdom later this year. Although the initial impact of these commercial revenues will be modest, the validation provided by this landmark achievement should prove to be significant with respect to our planned submission to the FDA in 2025 and the long term commercial success of the Deep View system as a platform technology. I'll spend some time discussing our recent achievements and highlighting the catalysts we expect over the next several quarters. Speaker 200:04:31In addition to preparing for the commercial availability of Deep Vu for burn in the United Kingdom, we are taking important steps to establish a commercial presence in the United States and over the longer term other geographies. We deployed a total of 5 DeepView AI burn devices at facilities across the UK following the February 2024 receipt of UKCA authorization. These initial deployments increase clinical familiarity of the device in advance of commercialization, provide real world data that enhances the AI algorithm and allow us to partner with these institutions as we gain a better understanding of how to commercialize, train and deploy future units. I'm pleased to announce that we have exceeded 85 percent enrollment of our desired total subject count at burn centers for our U. S. Speaker 200:05:35Burn pivotal study and expect to complete enrollment for this portion of the study shortly. As a reminder, it was just last month that we achieved 100 percent pediatric enrollment to burn centers. This burn pivotal study is one of the largest burn studies ever conducted in the United States. It is designed to validate the AI driven algorithm used by DeepView and will be the final clinical trial before we seek FDA approval in 2025. We've expanded the total number of U. Speaker 200:06:09S. Clinical sites to 16, comprised of both burn centers and emergency departments or EDs. Enrollment at EDs will continue into 2025 as some of those sites are just now beginning to enroll and more generally conducting trials in EDs have longer enrollment periods than centers focused on a the structural limitations of wound care for burns in the United States and how we believe that DeepQ can address this care gap. In a nation of more than 330,000,000 people, there are approximately 125 burn centers across the U. S. Speaker 200:06:58And less than 250 burn surgeons. Conversely, while the number of emergency department number exceeds 5,000, they are generally limited in having burn care specialists on staff. To that end, any efficiencies that can be introduced to the workflow of the EDs by DeepView would yield significant operational and economic benefits, allowing the most severely injured patients to be more accurately triaged and quickly treated. At burn centers, we believe that the predictive assessment offered by the DeepView technology can accelerate time to surgery for patients who require such treatment, while avoiding unnecessary surgeries for those patients who are likely to heal on their own. At emergency departments, where we estimate that most burn wounds are initially assessed, BPU can avoid unnecessary transfers to a burn center or trauma units while adding confidence in deciding when a specialist should see a patient. Speaker 200:08:10In both scenarios, DeepView also provides uniformed imaging documentation and standardized total body surface area or TBSA measurements. Reflecting the enrollment momentum in burn centers, we expect to submit the request for a de novo classification for use of DeepView AI burn in burn centers in the first half of twenty twenty five. We believe this will result in commercialization in the U. S. Early in 2026. Speaker 200:08:47After receipt of the de novo classification for use in burn centers, we plan to immediately submit the request for 510 approval for use in emergency departments, where we will have completed the remaining clinical trial work. We anticipate that the sequence of commercialization would begin with deploying the DPU technology into those U. S. Burn centers to promote expert adoption of the technology, followed by the deployment into emergency departments where we would leverage this primary point of entry into the U. S. Speaker 200:09:24Healthcare system. Beyond the UK and the U. S, we have an opportunity to establish a presence for DeepView in multiple geographies, such as in Australia through our recent memorandum of understanding with Polynovo Limited, one of the world's most respected providers of burn treatment solutions and an established market leader. Under the MOU, Polynovo will support our application to the Australian Special Access Scheme or SAS with a goal of allowing a A significant benefit of our years of developing both the image capture technology and the AI algorithm is how DeepView can be applied to potential indications that extend beyond our current focus. To that end, we are making great progress in the development of DeepView Snapshot M, a handheld version of our cart based DeepView technology that is intended for burn wound assessment in a combat and military setting. Speaker 200:10:47Earlier this year, we inked a new contract valued at over $500,000 that brings the total for just the DeepView Snapshot M to more than $6,000,000 DeepFuse Snapshot M is designed to be an integral part of the battlefield triage process by providing a quick and accurate wound care assessment, so that soldiers with more severe burn injuries can be prioritized for evacuation. We believe that the potential applications of CPU Snapshot N expand well beyond military use to serve our first responders and other healthcare providers with that more mobile unit. We are presenting an abstract titled Advancing Combat Burn Assessment of Deep Use Handheld Device for military field use at the upcoming 2024 Military Health System Research Symposium. This event is the Department of Defense's foremost scientific meeting and we look forward to sharing our progress with the attendees. Now let's talk a bit about timing of revenues from our U. Speaker 200:12:08S. Government contracts, which is helpful in assessing our future cash flows. Through the 1st 6 months of 2024, we have received approximately $12,000,000 in cash payments from BARDA, primarily from the base phase of the Project BioShield contract awarded in September 2023. This base phase of nearly $55,000,000 will take us through the Q1 of 2026 in support of the clinical validation and FDA approval processes for the burn indication. The next phases, which we expect to commence no later than the first half of twenty twenty six, are estimated to be $95,000,000 for feature enhancement, procurement and deployment of devices to burn centers and select emergency departments across the U. Speaker 200:13:03S. Specific timing of amounts under these remaining phases are subject to discussions with BARDA. In summary, to date, BARDA has awarded contracts to Spectral totaling almost $250,000,000 and since 2013 has paid over $113,000,000 to the company under these contracts. Total U. S. Speaker 200:13:28Government contracts awarded to Spectral since 2013, which include Emtek and other government agencies, approximate $258,000,000 Couple more items to discuss before turning things over to Vince. We were very happy to announce that our stock was added to the Russell Microcap Index effective July 1. We continue to strengthen our intellectual property mode and increased our granted patents from to 26 from 2020. We also have an additional 38 pending patent applications worldwide. Finally, regarding our newly formed healthcare IP focused subsidiary, Spectral IP, we continue to identify potential intellectual property for acquisition and to assess alternatives to leverage those assets. Speaker 200:14:29As a reminder, the activities associated with this subsidiary require limited management resources and no additional capital from the company. Additionally, no core operating assets of the company will be involved in this subsidiary. I'll now turn the conversation over to Vince. Speaker 300:14:50Thanks, Pete, and thank you all for joining us today. We issued our press release this afternoon, which contains additional details of our operating results, and we filed our 10 Q with the SEC this afternoon as well. With that in mind, I will focus my remarks on select financial highlights and key metrics. We are pleased to report that R and D revenue in the 2nd quarter rose 76% to $7,500,000 from $4,300,000 in the second quarter of last year. This growth reflects an increased level of activity under the BARDA project BioShield contract, as previously noted, which was awarded to the company in September 2023. Speaker 300:15:36Gross margin also rose to 44.3% from 42.1% in the Q2 of last year due to the higher reimbursement rate under the BARDA Project BioShield contract as compared to the reimbursement rate in the BARDA burn 2 contract, which accounted for most of our operating revenue throughout 2023. General and administrative expenses during the Q2 of 20 24 rose to $5,800,000 as compared to $4,800,000 reflecting higher headcount during the comparable periods. With that said, general and administrative expense as a percentage of revenue in the Q2 of 2024 decreased to 77% from 112% in last year's Q2. Non revenue generating research and development activities decreased by approximately $100,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024, as compared to the comparable period in 2023. This decrease was offset by an increase of approximately $1,100,000 related to other administrative expenses for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024, as compared to the same period in 2023. Speaker 300:17:00Other expenses for the Q2 of 20 24 were up approximately $314,000 from the Q2 of 2023, primarily reflecting our new borrowing related costs of $699,000 as compared to no costs in the Q2 of last year. This was due to debt issuance costs and payments from the convertible notes issued with the standby equity purchase agreement announced in March that were expensed during the quarter. Lastly, we're pleased to announce we trimmed our net loss for the quarter to $2,900,000 or $0.16 per share as compared to a net loss of $3,100,000 in the Q2 of last year or 23% per share. As of June 30, 2024, we had 17,606,367 shares outstanding. Moving now to the balance sheet. Speaker 300:18:01As of June 30, 2024, cash and cash equivalents totaled $6,900,000 up from $4,800,000 on December 31, 2023. Cash at June 30, 2024 included $900,000 in the company's newly formed wholly owned subsidiary Spectral IP. As discussed on our last call, we enhanced our access to capital by completing a common stock purchase agreement with an investment bank and entering into a standby equity purchase agreement with a long only investor. The standby equity purchase Agreement has a total capacity of $30,000,000 that included $12,500,000 of prepaid advances. As of June 30, 2024, the company received a net $9,200,000 in these prepaid advances. Speaker 300:18:56The final advance of $2,500,000 was received by the company on July 15, 2024. As a reminder, any additional draws above the total prepaid advances of $12,500,000 are at the sole discretion of the company. For 2024, we are reiterating our revenue guidance of approximately $28,000,000 an expected increase of about 55 percent from the $18,100,000 we reported in 2023. This growth reflects our work on the BARDA project BioShield contract as well as additional governmental funding in the continued development of our handheld device, DeepView Snapshot M. Our guidance does not reflect contributions from any sales of the D. Speaker 300:19:47F. U. System for the burn indication in the U. K. That are expected to begin later this year or any other contributions that may result from the commercialization of our DeepView system. Speaker 300:19:59With that, I thank you and we'll turn the conversation back over to Pete. Thank you, Vince. Speaker 200:20:06We are pleased with our progress through the first half of the year and are very optimistic about our future. Nick, let's open the call for questions. Thank you. Operator00:20:18We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:20:47Good afternoon and congrats on your progress. Maybe just to start, I have a couple of questions guys. First, just from related to guidance. So I think last time, Vince, you guys suggested that maybe the second half would see a little bit more revenue from BARDA relative to the first half. I just want to confirm if that's still your expectation as we move into the second half just based on the timing and the development milestones, etcetera, for the second half of the year regarding the $28,000,000 Speaker 300:21:26Yes. Brian, nice to talk to you. Yes, we continue to see the second half ramping up in our BARDA revenue really as the clinical trials continue to grow. I think as we sit here sitting on $13,800,000 in the first half of revenue for 2024, We feel confident that $28,000,000 is something we can reiterate to the market and we're excited to continue with our clinical trial development in the second half of this year. Speaker 400:21:59Okay. Very helpful. And then, Pete, as you think about, you talked about this a little bit, but a commercial presence in the U. S. As you think about going after that burn market, you talked about kind of building that commercial presence. Speaker 400:22:13What does that look like to you at this stage either from a cost standpoint, or a size standpoint or any kind of early thoughts around targeting that burn market? Speaker 200:22:28Brian, good to talk. As you look in particularly to the burn centers, we have a partner in our distribution to the burn centers in BARDA. We do not need to build a large commercial operation to service that market or frankly even the emergency department market. We need some resources, but the Speaker 400:22:54this is Speaker 200:22:55a deployment of a device is sort of a one time transaction and really the where we'll have the volume of people, but it will still be only moderate is in field service as we get the devices out into the emergency department. So we do not see the need to build a large commercial operation with significant sales force. Speaker 400:23:23Okay. Very helpful. And then just let me sneak one more in. The wound trial in the U. S, you guys reached 475 patients, it looks like. Speaker 400:23:34And what is the current determination for what to do with that data, clearly prioritizing burns over wound right now. Just help us understand what the timelines will be for DFU potentially in the U. S. Based on completing those 4 75 patients? Thanks for taking the questions. Speaker 200:23:59Yes. What we talked about kind of assessing the insights of the study, we'll get the final readouts internally here probably early Q4 as the last patients go through the full trial. And while we work focused on the burn indication and application to the FDA, we do want to look at how the data set what the data set tells us and how that relates to our best approach particularly from a reimbursement standpoint. Is it a particular indication like diabetic foot ulcers? Is it a broader indication of wounds, wound bed preparedness, etcetera? Speaker 200:24:51And so we feel we have a very significant asset in this data set we are finalizing with this trial. And that's the assessment we're going to look to do is what how does that what's the best strategic path forward given the results of that trial and where the market stands today? When you look at it on a broader basis, as we think about our near to mid term, we see the vast majority of the economics coming from the burn indication. That would mean not only the burn centers, but meaningful penetration into the emergency department. So relative to our longer term plans for that second indication, it's not a very significant change in timing as you look out 3 to 5 years. Speaker 400:25:41Thanks for taking the questions, Pete and Vin. Thanks, Ryan. Operator00:25:47The next question comes from Carl Byrnes with Northland Capital Markets. Please go Speaker 500:25:52ahead. Thanks for the question. Congratulations on the progress as well. Most of my questions have been answered here. But maybe you can drill a little bit further on UK. Speaker 500:26:02I know you cited you had 5 deployments. What might you be looking for by the end of the year in terms of deployments in the UK? And I know that that's not included in the $28,000,000 guidance in terms of contribution. Thanks. Speaker 200:26:19Thanks, John. Good to talk. From a deployment standpoint there, we would 1 or 2 more deployments are possible here as the year goes on. What's going to be important is that we're going to convert those some of these deployments into commercial revenues. We are not yet ready to further the impact or that's a roll out. Speaker 200:26:47But we also have a pretty neat opportunity coming up next week. The International Society of Burn has burn indications, I think is the other eye, has an annual conference, and they're going to be attendees from across the burn wound care or the burn care environment in the UK, but also a significant number of U. S. Burn surgeons and burn healthcare providers in attendance. We'll have a significant attendance there, presence there ourselves, including on the podium and are excited to share output from the device with these burn healthcare participants. Speaker 200:27:31It's really going to be one of their first opportunities to see that output. I mentioned that because that will help inform our next steps in the UK as we visit with each of the sites we're already working with and get indication of interest from others. Speaker 500:27:49Got it. Great. Thanks. That's helpful. And then just another follow-up here. Speaker 500:27:52Do you are there any other partnerships or alliances in the works similar to PolyNova in Australia that we might see in the next 6 to 12 months? Thanks. Speaker 200:28:09That's a very open ended question. We appreciate that opportunity. The answer would be yes, but that's about all we'll be able to say is yes, we are talking with others both domestically and elsewhere, and certainly hope to continue to have partnerships like that announced, both in new geographies as well as with significant partners in current geographies. No, I don't want to make any commitments one way or the other though. Speaker 500:28:38No, fair enough. Thanks so much. Thanks. Speaker 300:28:42Thanks, Carl. Operator00:28:45Next question comes from RK Ramakanth with H. C. Wainwright. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:28:53Thank you. Good afternoon, Pete and Vince. A couple of quick questions here. So regarding the UK deployment, just trying to understand how is it helping you in terms of designing your U. S. Speaker 600:29:13Commercialization? And also, is it possible for some of the folks in the UK to publish any of the data that can be used for reimbursement here in the U. S? Speaker 200:29:35Okay. Thanks for the question. I'll give you my thoughts and then I'll ask Jeremiah to share his thoughts, particularly leveraging his and we're already getting or have been receiving very positive and constructive feedback. So it's informing not only device performance, but it's also informing our commercial rollout strategy, how we staff and support rollout, what types of skill sets we need, etcetera. Let me let Jeremiah give you his additional thoughts. Speaker 700:30:18Thank you, Pete. So I would just echo what Pete said. The ability for us to start and do these evaluations in the UK is giving us very good feedback, constructive feedback and helping us understand the device better and how we would start the commercialization process in the U. S. Specifically to your question about publications, that's definitely something that we're looking to work with these clinicians on as they move beyond the evaluation phase and to publish their results, so that we can get that information out to payers in the U. Speaker 700:30:57S, etcetera, that will help us with the reimbursement. Speaker 600:31:02Thank you. And then in terms of label expectations in the U. S, I'm just trying to understand the inclusion of the pediatric patients in their study. One, how in terms of label expansion and also market expansion, How much of a market expansion did you get by getting pediatrics included into the label at the first instance? Speaker 200:31:35Thanks, RK. The when you look at pediatrics in the burn environment, you actually generally about 25% of admissions for burn situations are pediatrics. And it can be it can even go higher than that at times. So it's always been a focus of BARDA and working with us to make sure we included pediatrics in our studies. We want to be able to serve that community. Speaker 200:32:11One of the technologies and this is something we see in the UK as well as in the U. S. That exists today is called laser Doppler imaging. That technology takes several minutes to capture its image and thus requires sedation often of the pediatric patients. And you can imagine a young child with a burn in pain having to sit still. Speaker 200:32:41This is where the benefit of our less than one second image capture comes in and a place where we see the opportunity to really be useful in burns. I don't know that it expands the market opportunity. I think it enhances the willingness and acceptance in the market. So I would tell you the numbers we generally have talked about have included the expectation of the pediatric portion of the burn community. But similar to the measurement capabilities of the tool, we think the ease of use with a pediatric patient are things that will help increase interest in the market, thus help our deployment and our penetration opportunity, both in quantity and in speed. Speaker 600:33:35Thank you for that. One last question for me. This is regarding the Australian market. How long do you think it will take Polanova to stop commercializing the product? And also, I think you started talking about trying to place a couple of centers initially in Australia. Speaker 600:33:59So is that part of initiating the commercialization process or is that part of the application process such that Australian authorities Speaker 200:34:17Vince, do you want to take that and we can if Jeremiah has something to add, we'll let him do that. Speaker 300:34:22Yes, RK, good to hear from you. I think with respect to the work we're doing in tangent with PolyNovo, their help to get us into the special access program is good for us to have a potential rollout there of at least 2 machines. That's probably a good 12 months away, I would say, as we have to work through not just the special access program, but also have to get through each of the different hospitals' ethics committees to ensure that everybody is on board with introducing our device there. So we look at it as really a partnership, the initial starting of a partnership there with them, more so and data gathering more so than the commercial opportunity that it may present subsequent to a 12 month period beyond that into 2026, 2027. Speaker 600:35:17Thank you. Thanks for taking all my questions, please. Speaker 200:35:21Thanks, RK. Operator00:35:29The next question comes from John Vandermosten with Zacks. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:35:35Hello, good afternoon, everyone, and good to speak with you again. I want to explore some of the opportunities and challenges for the handheld Snapshot M. And I guess, first of all, what are some of the challenges, I guess, that you have with developing that and getting that approved? By the time that's ready, you'll already have DeepView approved and deployed. So what are the incremental challenges for the mobile version of the product to get approval? Speaker 200:36:08John, it's Pete. Good to talk. Certainly, the miniaturization is the challenge. So and you can see this out on our website and in some of our materials. The current image capture device associated with the cart based version, I referred to it as sort of the size of a large household iron. Speaker 200:36:30And there are the image is captured with 4 separate cameras. To get those 4 cameras into something that is portable, sturdy, portable and easy to manipulate in difficult environments is a challenge. And it's been amazing to see the team and hear the team talk about the various ways and vendors they've worked with to get the cameras into smaller and smaller while doing it in ultimately cameras that aren't much bigger, if not smaller than a pushpin. And so we are again, these are 4 high quality, high resolution cameras capturing images. And then there is the ability to have both the data set either in the device or accessible sort of by satellite technology. Speaker 200:37:44So those are the couple of engineering type aspects of the device miniaturization. Yes, sort of like I talked about in my prepared remarks, once we get one of these indications and uses through the regulatory approval process, we believe these other 510s with the predicates will be easier or have a shorter timeframe, not be easier, will have a shorter timeframe because it will be a more narrow aspect that is being assessed. And that's the same thing. So what we would look to do with the miniature or the handheld version is demonstrate that the image capture and the is consistent and demonstrate that the ability of the AI to make regulatory pathway look like for Speaker 800:38:38that machine? Okay. And what bit. And what does that regulatory pathway look like for that machine? Will you be required to do a 200 some odd patient trial? Speaker 800:38:53Or are you just making sure that what worked on the large scale works on a handheld scale as well in terms of just getting the regulatory nod from the regulators? Speaker 200:39:04I think there's twofold to that. 1 is the regulatory path and one is the commercial acceptance path. Again, we think we're very pleased let me step back. We're very pleased and proud to be working with these agencies supporting the DoD in developing a device that can help the military. We think this is an outstanding use of the technology. Speaker 200:39:27But we also think we have a really neat opportunity on behalf of our shareholders to take that technology and commercialize it in the field in multiple ways, particularly when you get into other indications that you might do in normal practice like a diabetic foot ulcer or other more chronic wound care that is done say in private offices for them to have access to more affordable smaller device with the capabilities of this technology, we think is going to be very powerful. So, yes, do we need to do a little bit of a trial? We don't think it has to be a significantly large trial, but enough to be able to demonstrate that the technology is working similar to the cart based technology. We haven't at this point tried to size that, but I certainly don't think it would be 4 50 patients like this current trial. Speaker 800:40:29Okay. And last question is on the size of the market and then I guess the potential areas of the market. I think you guys have said ambulances might be a really good place to place these handheld items. And obviously, you're getting your grants to support military use of them. What are some of the areas that might be appropriate for this? Speaker 800:40:54And how is that market size compared to kind of the ED and burn center market size? Is it equal? Is it maybe just a fraction of it? Or maybe is it larger? I mean, any sense of that? Speaker 200:41:07Couple of points here also, and let me give you my thoughts and I'll let Jeremiah round it out. Part of it is how many would we get into a situation where there might be multiple units at one site? So a large hospital complex, would it want to have several of these smaller devices in various practice areas as well as say a cart based device in a high volume place like the emergency department or the burn center. The other it opens up is the private practices and what we've talked about in some of our material with a chronic wound like diabetic foot ulcers is not only the 1100 wound care clinics that are out there dealing with situations like this, but also the 4,000 plus private practices as far as market opportunities. And then so you get into those types of numbers that we think about. Speaker 200:42:10If it was cost effective, would it be in ambulance? Yes, it would be very helpful in that situation. And maybe that's thinking about the ambulance and the areas where you have the level 1 trauma centers and maybe that's where the volume would justify this being carried on something like an ambulance, so they could take somebody if there were no other factors directly to a burn center. Let me let Jeremiah add his thoughts. Speaker 700:42:43Thanks, Pete. No, I think Pete said it very well. And when we assess this, we're looking at both the indication, basically what types of wound types that we're looking at, also site of service. There's the inpatient, there's the outpatient and potentially even physician offices. So when you look at the indications up again and then potentially even ambulances, when you look at that, there really could be widespread adoption, but it really starts with the what is the right indication and then how do we get that into the clinicians' hands. Speaker 700:43:22And then you couple that with reimbursement that'll be some major drivers as we look to assess the overall market. Speaker 800:43:30Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:43:35This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Pete Carlson for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:43:44We certainly appreciate everybody's participation and your continued interest in spectral AI. I do want to let you know there are a number of upcoming events, including the H. C. Wainwright Conference in New York City, September 9 through 11, where we will be available for meetings. As always, we're also available for shareholders to interact with us outside of those formal meeting opportunities. Speaker 200:44:10With that, I'll say thank you and have a good evening. Operator00:44:15The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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Email Address About Spectral AISpectral AI (NASDAQ:MDAI), an artificial intelligence (AI) company, focuses on developing predictive medical diagnostics in the United States. The company develops medical diagnostics for faster and accurate treatment decisions in wound care with applications involving patients with burns and diabetic foot ulcers. Its products include DeepView System, a predictive analytics platform integrated with the predictive AI-Burn, which combines AI algorithms and multispectral imaging (MSI) imaging for an assessment of wound healing potential and offers clinicians an objective and immediate assessment of a wound's healing potential prior to treatment or other medical intervention; and DeepView SnapShot M, a handheld, portable, and wireless diagnostic tool, that provides a potential enhanced and expanded use for the government and emergency care, first responders, and potentially home health care professionals. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Spectral AI Inc. 2nd Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. Operator00:00:30I would now like to turn the conference over to Devin Sullivan of The Equity Group. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:37Thank you, Nick. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Spectral AI's 2024 Second Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. Our speakers for today will be Peter Carlson, Chief Executive Officer and Vince Capone, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that during this call, certain statements may be made that constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements regarding the company's strategy, plans, objectives, initiatives and financial outlook. Speaker 100:01:13When used during these discussions, the words estimates, projected, expects, anticipates, forecasts, plans, intends, believes, seek, may, will, should and variations of these words or similar expressions or the negative versions of such words or expressions are intended to identify forward looking statements. These forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, conditions or results and involve a number of known and unknown risks, uncertainties, assumptions and other important factors, many of which are outside the company's control that could cause actual results or outcomes to differ materially from those discussed in the forward looking statements. As such, investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any forward looking statements. Investors should carefully consider the foregoing factors and the other risks and uncertainties described in the Risk Factors sections of the company's filings with the SEC. These filings identify and address other important risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events and results to differ materially from those contained in the forward looking statements. Speaker 100:02:21With that said, I would now like to turn the call over to Pete Carlson, Spectral AI's Chief Executive Officer. Pete, please go Speaker 200:02:30ahead. Thank you, Devin, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today for our Q2 financial results conference call. We had strong revenues in the Q2, and I'm pleased to say we are making significant progress in advancing our proprietary AI driven DeepView system wound assessment platform technology. Our focus as a company is to achieve product commercialization for a technology that we believe will improve patient while providing tangible economic and operational benefits across the healthcare system. Speaker 200:03:08We have spent more than 10 years creating the Deep View platform, which we believe is the only AI driven predictive medical diagnostic tool that supports the delivery of a fast, accurate and informed wound assessment. The development of DeepView reflects more than $250,000,000 of non dilutive government awards, multiple successful clinical trials that validate the accuracy and utility of our technology and a commitment from a dedicated group of executives, engineers, clinicians and partner institutions. The evolution of our business from an exclusively clinical development stage company to development along with product commercialization will manifest with the first commercial sales of our DeepView technology for the burn indication in the United Kingdom later this year. Although the initial impact of these commercial revenues will be modest, the validation provided by this landmark achievement should prove to be significant with respect to our planned submission to the FDA in 2025 and the long term commercial success of the Deep View system as a platform technology. I'll spend some time discussing our recent achievements and highlighting the catalysts we expect over the next several quarters. Speaker 200:04:31In addition to preparing for the commercial availability of Deep Vu for burn in the United Kingdom, we are taking important steps to establish a commercial presence in the United States and over the longer term other geographies. We deployed a total of 5 DeepView AI burn devices at facilities across the UK following the February 2024 receipt of UKCA authorization. These initial deployments increase clinical familiarity of the device in advance of commercialization, provide real world data that enhances the AI algorithm and allow us to partner with these institutions as we gain a better understanding of how to commercialize, train and deploy future units. I'm pleased to announce that we have exceeded 85 percent enrollment of our desired total subject count at burn centers for our U. S. Speaker 200:05:35Burn pivotal study and expect to complete enrollment for this portion of the study shortly. As a reminder, it was just last month that we achieved 100 percent pediatric enrollment to burn centers. This burn pivotal study is one of the largest burn studies ever conducted in the United States. It is designed to validate the AI driven algorithm used by DeepView and will be the final clinical trial before we seek FDA approval in 2025. We've expanded the total number of U. Speaker 200:06:09S. Clinical sites to 16, comprised of both burn centers and emergency departments or EDs. Enrollment at EDs will continue into 2025 as some of those sites are just now beginning to enroll and more generally conducting trials in EDs have longer enrollment periods than centers focused on a the structural limitations of wound care for burns in the United States and how we believe that DeepQ can address this care gap. In a nation of more than 330,000,000 people, there are approximately 125 burn centers across the U. S. Speaker 200:06:58And less than 250 burn surgeons. Conversely, while the number of emergency department number exceeds 5,000, they are generally limited in having burn care specialists on staff. To that end, any efficiencies that can be introduced to the workflow of the EDs by DeepView would yield significant operational and economic benefits, allowing the most severely injured patients to be more accurately triaged and quickly treated. At burn centers, we believe that the predictive assessment offered by the DeepView technology can accelerate time to surgery for patients who require such treatment, while avoiding unnecessary surgeries for those patients who are likely to heal on their own. At emergency departments, where we estimate that most burn wounds are initially assessed, BPU can avoid unnecessary transfers to a burn center or trauma units while adding confidence in deciding when a specialist should see a patient. Speaker 200:08:10In both scenarios, DeepView also provides uniformed imaging documentation and standardized total body surface area or TBSA measurements. Reflecting the enrollment momentum in burn centers, we expect to submit the request for a de novo classification for use of DeepView AI burn in burn centers in the first half of twenty twenty five. We believe this will result in commercialization in the U. S. Early in 2026. Speaker 200:08:47After receipt of the de novo classification for use in burn centers, we plan to immediately submit the request for 510 approval for use in emergency departments, where we will have completed the remaining clinical trial work. We anticipate that the sequence of commercialization would begin with deploying the DPU technology into those U. S. Burn centers to promote expert adoption of the technology, followed by the deployment into emergency departments where we would leverage this primary point of entry into the U. S. Speaker 200:09:24Healthcare system. Beyond the UK and the U. S, we have an opportunity to establish a presence for DeepView in multiple geographies, such as in Australia through our recent memorandum of understanding with Polynovo Limited, one of the world's most respected providers of burn treatment solutions and an established market leader. Under the MOU, Polynovo will support our application to the Australian Special Access Scheme or SAS with a goal of allowing a A significant benefit of our years of developing both the image capture technology and the AI algorithm is how DeepView can be applied to potential indications that extend beyond our current focus. To that end, we are making great progress in the development of DeepView Snapshot M, a handheld version of our cart based DeepView technology that is intended for burn wound assessment in a combat and military setting. Speaker 200:10:47Earlier this year, we inked a new contract valued at over $500,000 that brings the total for just the DeepView Snapshot M to more than $6,000,000 DeepFuse Snapshot M is designed to be an integral part of the battlefield triage process by providing a quick and accurate wound care assessment, so that soldiers with more severe burn injuries can be prioritized for evacuation. We believe that the potential applications of CPU Snapshot N expand well beyond military use to serve our first responders and other healthcare providers with that more mobile unit. We are presenting an abstract titled Advancing Combat Burn Assessment of Deep Use Handheld Device for military field use at the upcoming 2024 Military Health System Research Symposium. This event is the Department of Defense's foremost scientific meeting and we look forward to sharing our progress with the attendees. Now let's talk a bit about timing of revenues from our U. Speaker 200:12:08S. Government contracts, which is helpful in assessing our future cash flows. Through the 1st 6 months of 2024, we have received approximately $12,000,000 in cash payments from BARDA, primarily from the base phase of the Project BioShield contract awarded in September 2023. This base phase of nearly $55,000,000 will take us through the Q1 of 2026 in support of the clinical validation and FDA approval processes for the burn indication. The next phases, which we expect to commence no later than the first half of twenty twenty six, are estimated to be $95,000,000 for feature enhancement, procurement and deployment of devices to burn centers and select emergency departments across the U. Speaker 200:13:03S. Specific timing of amounts under these remaining phases are subject to discussions with BARDA. In summary, to date, BARDA has awarded contracts to Spectral totaling almost $250,000,000 and since 2013 has paid over $113,000,000 to the company under these contracts. Total U. S. Speaker 200:13:28Government contracts awarded to Spectral since 2013, which include Emtek and other government agencies, approximate $258,000,000 Couple more items to discuss before turning things over to Vince. We were very happy to announce that our stock was added to the Russell Microcap Index effective July 1. We continue to strengthen our intellectual property mode and increased our granted patents from to 26 from 2020. We also have an additional 38 pending patent applications worldwide. Finally, regarding our newly formed healthcare IP focused subsidiary, Spectral IP, we continue to identify potential intellectual property for acquisition and to assess alternatives to leverage those assets. Speaker 200:14:29As a reminder, the activities associated with this subsidiary require limited management resources and no additional capital from the company. Additionally, no core operating assets of the company will be involved in this subsidiary. I'll now turn the conversation over to Vince. Speaker 300:14:50Thanks, Pete, and thank you all for joining us today. We issued our press release this afternoon, which contains additional details of our operating results, and we filed our 10 Q with the SEC this afternoon as well. With that in mind, I will focus my remarks on select financial highlights and key metrics. We are pleased to report that R and D revenue in the 2nd quarter rose 76% to $7,500,000 from $4,300,000 in the second quarter of last year. This growth reflects an increased level of activity under the BARDA project BioShield contract, as previously noted, which was awarded to the company in September 2023. Speaker 300:15:36Gross margin also rose to 44.3% from 42.1% in the Q2 of last year due to the higher reimbursement rate under the BARDA Project BioShield contract as compared to the reimbursement rate in the BARDA burn 2 contract, which accounted for most of our operating revenue throughout 2023. General and administrative expenses during the Q2 of 20 24 rose to $5,800,000 as compared to $4,800,000 reflecting higher headcount during the comparable periods. With that said, general and administrative expense as a percentage of revenue in the Q2 of 2024 decreased to 77% from 112% in last year's Q2. Non revenue generating research and development activities decreased by approximately $100,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024, as compared to the comparable period in 2023. This decrease was offset by an increase of approximately $1,100,000 related to other administrative expenses for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024, as compared to the same period in 2023. Speaker 300:17:00Other expenses for the Q2 of 20 24 were up approximately $314,000 from the Q2 of 2023, primarily reflecting our new borrowing related costs of $699,000 as compared to no costs in the Q2 of last year. This was due to debt issuance costs and payments from the convertible notes issued with the standby equity purchase agreement announced in March that were expensed during the quarter. Lastly, we're pleased to announce we trimmed our net loss for the quarter to $2,900,000 or $0.16 per share as compared to a net loss of $3,100,000 in the Q2 of last year or 23% per share. As of June 30, 2024, we had 17,606,367 shares outstanding. Moving now to the balance sheet. Speaker 300:18:01As of June 30, 2024, cash and cash equivalents totaled $6,900,000 up from $4,800,000 on December 31, 2023. Cash at June 30, 2024 included $900,000 in the company's newly formed wholly owned subsidiary Spectral IP. As discussed on our last call, we enhanced our access to capital by completing a common stock purchase agreement with an investment bank and entering into a standby equity purchase agreement with a long only investor. The standby equity purchase Agreement has a total capacity of $30,000,000 that included $12,500,000 of prepaid advances. As of June 30, 2024, the company received a net $9,200,000 in these prepaid advances. Speaker 300:18:56The final advance of $2,500,000 was received by the company on July 15, 2024. As a reminder, any additional draws above the total prepaid advances of $12,500,000 are at the sole discretion of the company. For 2024, we are reiterating our revenue guidance of approximately $28,000,000 an expected increase of about 55 percent from the $18,100,000 we reported in 2023. This growth reflects our work on the BARDA project BioShield contract as well as additional governmental funding in the continued development of our handheld device, DeepView Snapshot M. Our guidance does not reflect contributions from any sales of the D. Speaker 300:19:47F. U. System for the burn indication in the U. K. That are expected to begin later this year or any other contributions that may result from the commercialization of our DeepView system. Speaker 300:19:59With that, I thank you and we'll turn the conversation back over to Pete. Thank you, Vince. Speaker 200:20:06We are pleased with our progress through the first half of the year and are very optimistic about our future. Nick, let's open the call for questions. Thank you. Operator00:20:18We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:20:47Good afternoon and congrats on your progress. Maybe just to start, I have a couple of questions guys. First, just from related to guidance. So I think last time, Vince, you guys suggested that maybe the second half would see a little bit more revenue from BARDA relative to the first half. I just want to confirm if that's still your expectation as we move into the second half just based on the timing and the development milestones, etcetera, for the second half of the year regarding the $28,000,000 Speaker 300:21:26Yes. Brian, nice to talk to you. Yes, we continue to see the second half ramping up in our BARDA revenue really as the clinical trials continue to grow. I think as we sit here sitting on $13,800,000 in the first half of revenue for 2024, We feel confident that $28,000,000 is something we can reiterate to the market and we're excited to continue with our clinical trial development in the second half of this year. Speaker 400:21:59Okay. Very helpful. And then, Pete, as you think about, you talked about this a little bit, but a commercial presence in the U. S. As you think about going after that burn market, you talked about kind of building that commercial presence. Speaker 400:22:13What does that look like to you at this stage either from a cost standpoint, or a size standpoint or any kind of early thoughts around targeting that burn market? Speaker 200:22:28Brian, good to talk. As you look in particularly to the burn centers, we have a partner in our distribution to the burn centers in BARDA. We do not need to build a large commercial operation to service that market or frankly even the emergency department market. We need some resources, but the Speaker 400:22:54this is Speaker 200:22:55a deployment of a device is sort of a one time transaction and really the where we'll have the volume of people, but it will still be only moderate is in field service as we get the devices out into the emergency department. So we do not see the need to build a large commercial operation with significant sales force. Speaker 400:23:23Okay. Very helpful. And then just let me sneak one more in. The wound trial in the U. S, you guys reached 475 patients, it looks like. Speaker 400:23:34And what is the current determination for what to do with that data, clearly prioritizing burns over wound right now. Just help us understand what the timelines will be for DFU potentially in the U. S. Based on completing those 4 75 patients? Thanks for taking the questions. Speaker 200:23:59Yes. What we talked about kind of assessing the insights of the study, we'll get the final readouts internally here probably early Q4 as the last patients go through the full trial. And while we work focused on the burn indication and application to the FDA, we do want to look at how the data set what the data set tells us and how that relates to our best approach particularly from a reimbursement standpoint. Is it a particular indication like diabetic foot ulcers? Is it a broader indication of wounds, wound bed preparedness, etcetera? Speaker 200:24:51And so we feel we have a very significant asset in this data set we are finalizing with this trial. And that's the assessment we're going to look to do is what how does that what's the best strategic path forward given the results of that trial and where the market stands today? When you look at it on a broader basis, as we think about our near to mid term, we see the vast majority of the economics coming from the burn indication. That would mean not only the burn centers, but meaningful penetration into the emergency department. So relative to our longer term plans for that second indication, it's not a very significant change in timing as you look out 3 to 5 years. Speaker 400:25:41Thanks for taking the questions, Pete and Vin. Thanks, Ryan. Operator00:25:47The next question comes from Carl Byrnes with Northland Capital Markets. Please go Speaker 500:25:52ahead. Thanks for the question. Congratulations on the progress as well. Most of my questions have been answered here. But maybe you can drill a little bit further on UK. Speaker 500:26:02I know you cited you had 5 deployments. What might you be looking for by the end of the year in terms of deployments in the UK? And I know that that's not included in the $28,000,000 guidance in terms of contribution. Thanks. Speaker 200:26:19Thanks, John. Good to talk. From a deployment standpoint there, we would 1 or 2 more deployments are possible here as the year goes on. What's going to be important is that we're going to convert those some of these deployments into commercial revenues. We are not yet ready to further the impact or that's a roll out. Speaker 200:26:47But we also have a pretty neat opportunity coming up next week. The International Society of Burn has burn indications, I think is the other eye, has an annual conference, and they're going to be attendees from across the burn wound care or the burn care environment in the UK, but also a significant number of U. S. Burn surgeons and burn healthcare providers in attendance. We'll have a significant attendance there, presence there ourselves, including on the podium and are excited to share output from the device with these burn healthcare participants. Speaker 200:27:31It's really going to be one of their first opportunities to see that output. I mentioned that because that will help inform our next steps in the UK as we visit with each of the sites we're already working with and get indication of interest from others. Speaker 500:27:49Got it. Great. Thanks. That's helpful. And then just another follow-up here. Speaker 500:27:52Do you are there any other partnerships or alliances in the works similar to PolyNova in Australia that we might see in the next 6 to 12 months? Thanks. Speaker 200:28:09That's a very open ended question. We appreciate that opportunity. The answer would be yes, but that's about all we'll be able to say is yes, we are talking with others both domestically and elsewhere, and certainly hope to continue to have partnerships like that announced, both in new geographies as well as with significant partners in current geographies. No, I don't want to make any commitments one way or the other though. Speaker 500:28:38No, fair enough. Thanks so much. Thanks. Speaker 300:28:42Thanks, Carl. Operator00:28:45Next question comes from RK Ramakanth with H. C. Wainwright. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:28:53Thank you. Good afternoon, Pete and Vince. A couple of quick questions here. So regarding the UK deployment, just trying to understand how is it helping you in terms of designing your U. S. Speaker 600:29:13Commercialization? And also, is it possible for some of the folks in the UK to publish any of the data that can be used for reimbursement here in the U. S? Speaker 200:29:35Okay. Thanks for the question. I'll give you my thoughts and then I'll ask Jeremiah to share his thoughts, particularly leveraging his and we're already getting or have been receiving very positive and constructive feedback. So it's informing not only device performance, but it's also informing our commercial rollout strategy, how we staff and support rollout, what types of skill sets we need, etcetera. Let me let Jeremiah give you his additional thoughts. Speaker 700:30:18Thank you, Pete. So I would just echo what Pete said. The ability for us to start and do these evaluations in the UK is giving us very good feedback, constructive feedback and helping us understand the device better and how we would start the commercialization process in the U. S. Specifically to your question about publications, that's definitely something that we're looking to work with these clinicians on as they move beyond the evaluation phase and to publish their results, so that we can get that information out to payers in the U. Speaker 700:30:57S, etcetera, that will help us with the reimbursement. Speaker 600:31:02Thank you. And then in terms of label expectations in the U. S, I'm just trying to understand the inclusion of the pediatric patients in their study. One, how in terms of label expansion and also market expansion, How much of a market expansion did you get by getting pediatrics included into the label at the first instance? Speaker 200:31:35Thanks, RK. The when you look at pediatrics in the burn environment, you actually generally about 25% of admissions for burn situations are pediatrics. And it can be it can even go higher than that at times. So it's always been a focus of BARDA and working with us to make sure we included pediatrics in our studies. We want to be able to serve that community. Speaker 200:32:11One of the technologies and this is something we see in the UK as well as in the U. S. That exists today is called laser Doppler imaging. That technology takes several minutes to capture its image and thus requires sedation often of the pediatric patients. And you can imagine a young child with a burn in pain having to sit still. Speaker 200:32:41This is where the benefit of our less than one second image capture comes in and a place where we see the opportunity to really be useful in burns. I don't know that it expands the market opportunity. I think it enhances the willingness and acceptance in the market. So I would tell you the numbers we generally have talked about have included the expectation of the pediatric portion of the burn community. But similar to the measurement capabilities of the tool, we think the ease of use with a pediatric patient are things that will help increase interest in the market, thus help our deployment and our penetration opportunity, both in quantity and in speed. Speaker 600:33:35Thank you for that. One last question for me. This is regarding the Australian market. How long do you think it will take Polanova to stop commercializing the product? And also, I think you started talking about trying to place a couple of centers initially in Australia. Speaker 600:33:59So is that part of initiating the commercialization process or is that part of the application process such that Australian authorities Speaker 200:34:17Vince, do you want to take that and we can if Jeremiah has something to add, we'll let him do that. Speaker 300:34:22Yes, RK, good to hear from you. I think with respect to the work we're doing in tangent with PolyNovo, their help to get us into the special access program is good for us to have a potential rollout there of at least 2 machines. That's probably a good 12 months away, I would say, as we have to work through not just the special access program, but also have to get through each of the different hospitals' ethics committees to ensure that everybody is on board with introducing our device there. So we look at it as really a partnership, the initial starting of a partnership there with them, more so and data gathering more so than the commercial opportunity that it may present subsequent to a 12 month period beyond that into 2026, 2027. Speaker 600:35:17Thank you. Thanks for taking all my questions, please. Speaker 200:35:21Thanks, RK. Operator00:35:29The next question comes from John Vandermosten with Zacks. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:35:35Hello, good afternoon, everyone, and good to speak with you again. I want to explore some of the opportunities and challenges for the handheld Snapshot M. And I guess, first of all, what are some of the challenges, I guess, that you have with developing that and getting that approved? By the time that's ready, you'll already have DeepView approved and deployed. So what are the incremental challenges for the mobile version of the product to get approval? Speaker 200:36:08John, it's Pete. Good to talk. Certainly, the miniaturization is the challenge. So and you can see this out on our website and in some of our materials. The current image capture device associated with the cart based version, I referred to it as sort of the size of a large household iron. Speaker 200:36:30And there are the image is captured with 4 separate cameras. To get those 4 cameras into something that is portable, sturdy, portable and easy to manipulate in difficult environments is a challenge. And it's been amazing to see the team and hear the team talk about the various ways and vendors they've worked with to get the cameras into smaller and smaller while doing it in ultimately cameras that aren't much bigger, if not smaller than a pushpin. And so we are again, these are 4 high quality, high resolution cameras capturing images. And then there is the ability to have both the data set either in the device or accessible sort of by satellite technology. Speaker 200:37:44So those are the couple of engineering type aspects of the device miniaturization. Yes, sort of like I talked about in my prepared remarks, once we get one of these indications and uses through the regulatory approval process, we believe these other 510s with the predicates will be easier or have a shorter timeframe, not be easier, will have a shorter timeframe because it will be a more narrow aspect that is being assessed. And that's the same thing. So what we would look to do with the miniature or the handheld version is demonstrate that the image capture and the is consistent and demonstrate that the ability of the AI to make regulatory pathway look like for Speaker 800:38:38that machine? Okay. And what bit. And what does that regulatory pathway look like for that machine? Will you be required to do a 200 some odd patient trial? Speaker 800:38:53Or are you just making sure that what worked on the large scale works on a handheld scale as well in terms of just getting the regulatory nod from the regulators? Speaker 200:39:04I think there's twofold to that. 1 is the regulatory path and one is the commercial acceptance path. Again, we think we're very pleased let me step back. We're very pleased and proud to be working with these agencies supporting the DoD in developing a device that can help the military. We think this is an outstanding use of the technology. Speaker 200:39:27But we also think we have a really neat opportunity on behalf of our shareholders to take that technology and commercialize it in the field in multiple ways, particularly when you get into other indications that you might do in normal practice like a diabetic foot ulcer or other more chronic wound care that is done say in private offices for them to have access to more affordable smaller device with the capabilities of this technology, we think is going to be very powerful. So, yes, do we need to do a little bit of a trial? We don't think it has to be a significantly large trial, but enough to be able to demonstrate that the technology is working similar to the cart based technology. We haven't at this point tried to size that, but I certainly don't think it would be 4 50 patients like this current trial. Speaker 800:40:29Okay. And last question is on the size of the market and then I guess the potential areas of the market. I think you guys have said ambulances might be a really good place to place these handheld items. And obviously, you're getting your grants to support military use of them. What are some of the areas that might be appropriate for this? Speaker 800:40:54And how is that market size compared to kind of the ED and burn center market size? Is it equal? Is it maybe just a fraction of it? Or maybe is it larger? I mean, any sense of that? Speaker 200:41:07Couple of points here also, and let me give you my thoughts and I'll let Jeremiah round it out. Part of it is how many would we get into a situation where there might be multiple units at one site? So a large hospital complex, would it want to have several of these smaller devices in various practice areas as well as say a cart based device in a high volume place like the emergency department or the burn center. The other it opens up is the private practices and what we've talked about in some of our material with a chronic wound like diabetic foot ulcers is not only the 1100 wound care clinics that are out there dealing with situations like this, but also the 4,000 plus private practices as far as market opportunities. And then so you get into those types of numbers that we think about. Speaker 200:42:10If it was cost effective, would it be in ambulance? Yes, it would be very helpful in that situation. And maybe that's thinking about the ambulance and the areas where you have the level 1 trauma centers and maybe that's where the volume would justify this being carried on something like an ambulance, so they could take somebody if there were no other factors directly to a burn center. Let me let Jeremiah add his thoughts. Speaker 700:42:43Thanks, Pete. No, I think Pete said it very well. And when we assess this, we're looking at both the indication, basically what types of wound types that we're looking at, also site of service. There's the inpatient, there's the outpatient and potentially even physician offices. So when you look at the indications up again and then potentially even ambulances, when you look at that, there really could be widespread adoption, but it really starts with the what is the right indication and then how do we get that into the clinicians' hands. Speaker 700:43:22And then you couple that with reimbursement that'll be some major drivers as we look to assess the overall market. Speaker 800:43:30Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:43:35This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Pete Carlson for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:43:44We certainly appreciate everybody's participation and your continued interest in spectral AI. I do want to let you know there are a number of upcoming events, including the H. C. Wainwright Conference in New York City, September 9 through 11, where we will be available for meetings. As always, we're also available for shareholders to interact with us outside of those formal meeting opportunities. Speaker 200:44:10With that, I'll say thank you and have a good evening. Operator00:44:15The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by