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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast American Healthcare REIT EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.01Consensus EPS $0.29Beat/MissMissed by -$0.28One Year Ago EPSN/AAmerican Healthcare REIT Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$504.60 millionExpected Revenue$506.55 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.95 millionYoY Revenue Growth+7.90%American Healthcare REIT Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/5/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, August 6, 2024Conference Call Time1:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsAmerican Healthcare REIT's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, August 4, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Tuesday, August 5, 2025 at 1:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by American Healthcare REIT Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 6, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 15 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Hello and thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like Speaker 100:00:04to welcome you to the American Healthcare REIT Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Would now like to turn the conference over to Alan Peterson, Vice President of Investor Relations and Finance. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:41Good morning. Thank you for joining us for American Healthcare REIT's 2nd quarter 2024 earnings conference call. With me today are Danny Proski, President and CEO Brian Pei, Chief Financial Officer Gabe Wilhite, Chief Operating Officer and Stephane Oh, Chief Investment Officer. On today's call, Danny, Gabe and Brian will provide high level commentary discussing our results of operations, financial position and other recent news relating to American Healthcare REIT. Following these remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session with covering research analysts. Speaker 200:01:11Please be advised that this call will include forward looking statements. All statements made during this call other than statements of historical facts are forward looking statements that are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in these statements. Therefore, you should exercise caution in interpreting and relying on them. I refer you to our SEC filings, including our earnings release furnished yesterday, for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results, financial condition and prospects. All forward looking statements speak only as of today, August 6, 2024, or such other dates as may otherwise be specified. Speaker 200:01:49We assume no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. During the call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for our financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of non GAAP financial measures discussed on this call to the most directly comparable measures calculated in accordance with GAAP are included in our earnings release and supplemental information package. You can find these documents as well as our SEC filings in the audio webcast replay of this conference call on the Investor Relations section of our website at www.americanhealthcarereit.com. Speaker 200:02:33With that, I will turn the call over to our President and CEO, Danny Speaker 300:02:37Proski. Thank you, Alan. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. As we enter the latter half of twenty twenty four, demand growth for healthcare real estate remains strong as evidenced by the performance of our diversified healthcare portfolio during the first half of the year with 15.7% total same store NOI growth in the Q2 of 2024 and 14.4% same store NOI growth year to date. Within our 4 property segments, we continue to observe increased demand from an agent population, which we expect will extend at least into the latter part of the decade. Speaker 300:03:16This demand and resulting internal growth within our portfolio is surpassing our original conservative estimates prompting us to increase our guidance for both total portfolio same store NOI and earnings for fiscal year 2024. Our anticipated same store NOI growth for 2024 has been increased to a range of 12% to 14%. Revised normalized funds from operations guidance now stands at $1.23 to $1.27 per fully diluted share. Brian will provide more details regarding our revised guidance later in the call. I want to express my gratitude to the entire team here at American Healthcare REIT and our regional operating partners for their commitment to delivering excellent results for all of our stakeholders. Speaker 300:04:05Our team's hard work is demonstrated in our quarterly results. Reflecting on the current environment for healthcare real estate, I've spent 32 years working within the healthcare REIT space and have never been more optimistic about our businesses growth prospects. The strength we have seen over the last 18 months within our industry is the most robust I have observed and the outlook for our company at least over the next 3 to 5 years looks extremely promising. When evaluating our portfolio, I believe we are well positioned to continue delivering sector leading performance within our managed portfolio, which includes our integrated senior health campuses and SHOP segments. We are particularly excited about our assisted living exposure. Speaker 300:04:50Industry data from the Q2 shows that combined assisted living rate and occupancy growth has outperformed compared to other long term care sectors for 11 consecutive quarters. Industry wide assisted living occupancy now stands at approximately 85% in the Q2 of 20 24, and we are seeing the industry trend of AL outperformance within our portfolio, although our results are further surpassing certain benchmarks. Our same store integrated senior health campus and SHOP segment occupancies exceeded the industry assisted living occupancy average in the Q2 of 2024. Our same store shop assets coupled above industry average occupancy with accelerating RevPAR growth year over year in the Q2. These results are a testament to the quality of our portfolio and the quality of our operating partners. Speaker 300:05:53While still early in our history as a traded REIT, we hope that through all the interactions with the investment community, we are establishing ourselves as leaders in both the public markets and the healthcare real estate sector. Nevertheless, with all the additional work, we're not losing sight Speaker 400:06:16of Speaker 300:06:25Number 2, committing to strong operating performance through our hands on asset management approach, utilizing best in class regional operators. And number 3, demonstrating prudent capital allocation to optimize our portfolio's earnings and intrinsic value, focusing on attractive risk adjusted returns. Looking ahead, I'm excited to continue executing our plans alongside the entire AHR team to achieve further growth across our diversified healthcare portfolio. I will now turn it over to Gabe to discuss our operational results in further detail. Speaker 400:07:00Thanks, Danny. As Danny mentioned, we're thrilled to see robust levels of demand driving portfolio performance, particularly within our managed segments, which accounts for approximately 60% of our pro rata cash NOI. Within our managed segments, our integrated senior health campuses operated by Trilogy Health Services continue to set the standard for healthcare operations across all levels of long term care, particularly assisted living and skilled nursing. And you can see this reflected in our 24.1% year over year same store NOI growth within that segment in the Q2 of 2024 compared to the same period in 2023. Trilogy's unique model, purpose built facilities and strong reputation have continued to drive demand. Speaker 400:07:46Occupancy continued its sequential gains in the 2nd quarter with a 20 basis point increase from the results in the Q1 of 2024 and occupancy continued its climb higher subsequent to the end of the second quarter with spot same store occupancy as of July 26, 2024 at 87.4%. Skilled nursing occupancy particular remains well above the industry average, although we've seen some seasonality return to that segment, albeit to a lesser extent than historic norms and not enough to offset gains in other areas. I'm also excited to see the benefits of Trilogy's moat, as I've explained to many in the past, playing out in the results. The unique model and regional scale allow resources to be allocated efficiently across our campuses, providing a stable foundation for further margin expansion with continued top line growth and continued expense management, which naturally ultimately leads to sustained NOI growth. Over the balance of 2024, with demand increasing for all care settings within the campus, skilled nursing, assisted living and independent living, I expect our integrated senior health campuses occupancy to continue to grow and of course incremental occupancy gains would be expected to result in a higher pull through to the bottom line. Speaker 400:09:03But again, because of Trilogy's unique business, we actually see multiple levers outside of growth for optimization and margin expansion beyond current levels. For example, as operator of choice in its markets, Trilogy can focus on queue mix and value based care opportunities to provide for top line growth, completely independent occupancy growth. Another example, Trilogy's industry leading employee retention, which we've seen improving steadily, provides an opportunity for further expense management. Trilogy is constantly improving the employee experience, which allowed them to eliminate the need for agency nursing completely long ago and reduces unnecessary overtime expenses and the wasted costs associated with employee turnover. Now that being said, Trilogy's biggest advantage by far is that Trilogy is known for its high quality care and we wholeheartedly believe that people see value in that and when making a decision continue to want their loved ones in the Trilogy facility. Speaker 400:10:01In our SHOP segment, we're achieving industry leading levels of NOI growth by 1, partnering with best in class regional operators and 2, as a product of our work repositioning underperforming properties with new operators. Our same store year over year shop NOI grew by 49.1% in the Q2 of 2024 compared to the Q2 of 2023, driven by approximately 700 basis points in occupancy gains compared to the Q2 of 2023 and also accelerating RevPOR growth above and beyond export growth. Furthermore, and as a credit to our hands on asset management approach, we're pleased to report that same store NOI margins for our shop segment expanded by 200 basis points from the prior quarter and exceeded 20% in Q2 2024. Similar to our integrated senior health campuses segment, occupancy in the shop segment is trending higher post quarter end with spot same store occupancy as of July 26, 2024 at 88.1%. At these levels, more options become available to our operating partners to drive investment performance and to support further NOI gains in the second half of twenty twenty four into 2025 and beyond. Speaker 400:11:14The strategy moving forward for the team and our operating group in addition to delivering occupancy gains will be to further optimize our pricing power where demand dictates and control expenses to deliver further margin expansion from current levels. I continue to believe that partnering with strong operators is the single most important factor driving successful senior housing investments. We are confident that our regional asset management approach during these results could be successfully expanded upon with other growth opportunities when the time is right and appropriate for Speaker 500:11:43us to grow externally. With Speaker 400:11:46that, I'll hand it over to Brian. Speaker 500:11:49Thanks Gabe. In the Q2 of 2024, we earned $0.33 per fully diluted share of normalized funds from operation, driven largely by 15.7% same store net operating income growth across our combined portfolio. We are increasing our full year 2024 NFFO guidance to a range of $1.23 to $1.27 per fully diluted share, representing a $0.04 increase to the midpoint of earnings guidance. This upward revision is primarily due to the increased expectations NOI growth in 2024 across our combined same store portfolio of between 12% 14%. We are also adjusting same store guidance for our various segments for the full year 2024 as follows. Speaker 500:12:42We now expect our Integrated Senior Health Campuses segment to grow between 18% 20%. And in our SHOP segment, we now project 45% to 50% NOI growth in 2024. As Danny mentioned earlier, the pace at which demand increased among our Managed Care segments is a positive development, prompting the revisions to our total portfolio and segment level NOI guidance for 2024. In my mind and as I have mentioned often, it was never a matter of if we would be able to achieve this level of performance, only a matter of when. And I'm glad that we are getting there faster than we had originally forecasted. Speaker 500:13:24Our guidance for outpatient medical and triple net leased segments remains unchanged. To remind everyone, we anticipate flat to slightly declining growth within outpatient medical and 1% to 3% growth within our triple net leased properties in 2024. We expect stability from our outpatient medical segment where our team is actively managing tenant move outs with incremental leasing in the back half of the year. The anticipated move outs are expected to occur in the Q4 of 2024, but we anticipate healthy new leasing and re leasing activity through the end of the year to partially offset those occupancy headwinds. Within our triple net leased segment, we continue to see improving lease coverage levels for our tenants with total triple net leased EBITDAR coverage levels ticking up sequentially from 1.25 times last quarter to 1.29 times in the Q2 of 2024. Speaker 500:14:22The most meaningful improvement in segment rent coverage occurred for our skilled nursing and senior housing leased segments currently at 1.34x and 1.11x EBITDAR coverage respectively. With respect to full year NFFO guidance changes, the upside is being driven by significant same store earnings growth in excess of previous expectations as well as some minor non recurring income this quarter with an ongoing offset from increased borrowing costs. In the quarter, we received approximately $1,800,000 in non recurring recoveries from former tenants, resulting in slightly more than $0.01 per share increase to our Q2 2024 and full year earnings. I would not anticipate those amounts to repeat in subsequent quarters. Interest expense remains a headwind to earnings as we anticipate higher interest costs going forward from several factors. Speaker 500:15:23Asset sales are taking longer than originally anticipated, which means debt paydowns are delayed until later in the year. We financed a few lease buyouts at Trilogy utilizing debt, resulting in lower facility rent expense, but higher interest costs, higher variable rate debt costs due to changes to short term interest rate expectations as determined by the Fed, non cash interest expense is higher related to write offs of previously unamortized loan fees, loan fees related to extending revolving lines of credit and GAAP above and below market rate debt adjustments. Although these amounts are showing up in earnings, they are non cash charges and do not affect cash flow from operations. Taking a look at our balance sheet, organic internal earnings growth has improved our net debt to annualized adjusted EBITDA ratio by a half a turn to 5.9 times as of the end of the second quarter in 2024 as compared to 6.4 times at the end of Q1, twenty twenty four. Turning to our capital allocation activity. Speaker 500:16:31During Q2, 2024, we exercised purchase options on 3 campuses within our Integrated Senior Health Campus segment, totaling approximately $46,000,000 These buildings carried a lease rate of approximately 9.1% and buying them out reduced our facility rent expense, enhanced segment level earnings and importantly allowed us to gain control of the real estate underlying our operating assets. We are maintaining our disposition proceeds guidance with expectations to sell approximately $50,000,000 of additional non core properties for the remainder of the year, bringing full year 2024 sales proceeds to approximately $65,000,000 As previously stated, we continue to expose assets to the market to further recycle capital within our portfolio. We evaluate additional dispositions based on whether or not we are able to attain attractive pricing, which in turn supports earnings and NAV accretion and further deleverages the balance sheet or allows for modest external growth. Our approach to capital allocation remains measured and is aimed at maximizing value for all AHR stakeholders. That concludes our prepared remarks. Speaker 500:17:45And with that, operator, we are now ready to open the line for questions. Speaker 100:17:54Thank you. And the floor is now open for your questions. Our first question comes from Joshua DeNelier from Bank of America. Speaker 600:18:34Yes. Hey, guys. Everyone's doing well. I just wanted to kind of maybe touch base on Trilogy. It's kind of newer to the public markets. Speaker 600:18:43Just kind of how should we kind of think about like the rate growth going forward, from just all the different moving pieces? I know like CMS is moving rates and then like the different states. I guess any kind of insight into the go forward, if there's any certainty at this point? Speaker 300:19:00Thanks, Josh. This is Danny. Good morning and thanks for joining us. Good afternoon to you. And I'm going to hand it over to Gabe for that one. Speaker 400:19:06Hey, Josh. So I think Trilogy to think about their business, it's basically a mix of senior housing and skilled nursing that boils down to about 55% skilled nursing beds and 45% senior housing beds, which is predominantly AL and with a little bit of IL. On the AL, IL senior housing side of the business, I think the rate growth acts very much like the rest of our competitors in the rest of the nation. Trilogy maybe a little bit better than Bose because they're higher occupied already, so they've got more pricing power. But more important than that, they're kind of the preferred option in the markets that they're in. Speaker 400:19:44So we saw on their senior housing side about 6.5% to 7% year over year growth in rate. I think they'll continue to have pricing power there. On the skilled nursing side, it's obviously a mix. And within that skilled nursing component, you've got a certain percentage that's private pay, which acts a lot like the private pay on the AL and IL part of the business. Although Trilogy saw outsized growth in rate in that part of their skilled nursing business at 9.3% year over year. Speaker 400:20:17With Medicare and Medicaid, I think we've seen the reimbursement environment steadily improving. And part of it is catching up to what was really incredible inflation over the last year and a half and getting the rates to a spot where it takes into account, especially the increases in compensation expenses that we've had. So we expect that to be to continue to be positive. Specifically with Medicare, they put out the final rule that said that the national average increase for skilled nursing would be 4.2%. In Trilogy's markets, we expect it to be a little bit better based on reflecting the increase in labor expenses over the last year. Speaker 400:21:02On the Medicaid part of the business, I think this might be the most interesting part of the business as far as where rate growth can go because the states that Trilogy operates in are shifting more and more to value based care models, where if you provide the highest quality of care, you're going to be rewarded for it in terms of an add on or additional rate. And the things that they look at are things that Trilogy performs really well in, 5 star rating, staffing rating, hospitalization rates in certain conditions like pressure ulcers, things like this. And that's one of the things we really like about partnering with Trilogy and all of our operators are high quality operators. But Trilogy kind of stands ahead of everyone in providing the highest quality of care. And now the reimbursement environment is really starting to recognize and appreciate that level of care and give the people who are doing it the best a little bit more of an incentive to continue to perform that way. Speaker 600:22:01No, that's good color. Thanks Gabe. And Brian, you mentioned asset sales are taking a bit longer than you expected. Is there any kind of color you can provide on like what's driving that delay or? Speaker 500:22:13Yes, good question. Actually, Stephane is on the front line of that. I'd actually like him to weigh in. Speaker 100:22:20Hey, thanks Brian. Hey Josh, nice to hear. Speaker 700:22:24Yes, so in terms of what's delaying deals, I mean, I think it really is a matter of buyers are tending to be a little more careful about their diligence. They want to be they want to understand, for example, what's going on, on the CapEx level. So they're just digging in a little bit more on that end. And I think part of that is related to the lenders and what they're expecting as well on their side as far as the underwriting is concerned. So, I think a little bit of it is a push down from the lenders, but I also think that in the market today where you've got a very limited amount of supply in terms of assets that are out there, especially on the MOB side or outpatient medical side. Speaker 700:23:17I think they are just being a little more careful about what they're buying and what they're paying for. And so I think that's what's delaying really some of the progress in terms of getting deals done. Speaker 500:23:33And Josh, oddly enough, we're not actually seeing a backup in pricing. So it's not as though cap rates are moving from where we were originally thinking we could get deals done. It's as Stephane just described, it's really way more stringent due diligence probably brought on by lenders. Interesting. Thanks. Speaker 500:23:54Thanks guys. Speaker 100:23:59Our next question comes from Austin Burschmidt from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Speaker 800:24:07Great. Thanks. Good morning, everybody out there. So for the Integrated Health campuses, Gabe, really appreciate all the detail you provided on that segment and some of these levers and opportunities that you highlighted occupancy, queue mix and expense management, I think were kind of the primary. What does this all kind of roll up and mean for the margin expansion potential over time? Speaker 800:24:31Can you just frame that up for us a little bit? Thanks. Speaker 300:24:35Yes. So we're very pleased with the direction that we've seen from the margins at Trilogy. We're still below where we were pre COVID, but we're getting closer. Every quarter there seems to be pretty good movement. My expectation is that we'll surpass the pre COVID margins. Speaker 300:24:53It could take a little bit longer. I think part of that is because I'm expecting higher occupancies and we're already at higher occupancies than pre COVID, but I expect those to continue ticking up. But we've got good wind in our backs from a reimbursement perspective. Gabe mentioned Medicaid has been moving up at a very nice clip. October 1st, when that new Medicare rate kicks in, that's going to be very, very helpful for Trilogy. Speaker 300:25:20So I mean Trilogy's margin pre COVID was kind of a 19 ish range and we're not too far off that. I would expect us to surpass that. Speaker 800:25:32Appreciate some of the thoughts there. And then just switching over maybe to the shops segment. You've alluded to exploring opportunities to grow that segment at the right time, similar to kind of the Oregon deal you did earlier this year. Any update or thought process around the opportunities that lie in front of you either with the existing operator base or new relationships? Speaker 300:25:55Yes. So, good question. We've had a couple of opportunities that we've done over the last year and a half, mainly because of mezz position we were in. We took over a portfolio in Texas, we're very pleased with, the one in Oregon that you just mentioned. There is one more kind of coming down the pike, which we really are not ready to disclose anything on it. Speaker 300:26:16If and when that deal closes, we'll disclose it at that point. Speaker 500:26:20I mean, sort of top level Austin, there's tremendous opportunity in the market. And I think you're seeing some of our peers one of our peers able to take advantage of that. We see those same opportunities. We love the fact that we've got these great regional operator relationships. They're bringing us deals. Speaker 500:26:38And we are a little bit capital constrained at the present time. We don't want to we fought hard to get our leverage where it is, down to 5.9 times and we're very protective of that. So hopefully at some point the stock rerates and we'll be able to grow externally. But for now we're being extremely selective. Speaker 300:26:56Yes. So we've closed on the deals that we've just discussed. We've been growing within Trilogy. We view Trilogy as our best risk adjusted return today. So we've been kind of taking our limited capital dollars and really putting it towards Trilogy expansion. Speaker 800:27:12Yes. That makes a lot of sense. But I guess on this one more SHOP opportunity, I mean, A, I guess what are the plans to fund it to the extent that it does materialize? And is this similar to those other opportunities you've highlighted where there's pretty significant NOI growth and occupancy upside? Speaker 300:27:34Yes. So we would be taking it over for the cost of the debt, so there'd be no new dollars going out the door. And we view it as a very opportunistic play with a lot of upside. Speaker 100:27:49Great. Thank you. Our next question comes from Ronald Kampton from Morgan Stanley. Speaker 900:28:04Hey, just two quick ones. So going back to Trilogy, I think following up on that line of questioning, I think you talked about potentially getting a record margins. Maybe can you talk about what you think the occupancy levels are at that point as well? Could you get to sort of the 90s? And also maybe just a quick update on the potential buyout. Speaker 900:28:25Obviously, the numbers have been accelerating. Just how you're thinking about sort of the buyout and funding it? Speaker 300:28:30Yes. So Trilogy's occupancy has ticked up very nicely. Right now, the AL IL and the skilled occupancy Speaker 1000:28:39are roughly the same. AL has Speaker 300:28:39caught up nicely. If we go occupancy are roughly the same. AL has caught up nicely. If we go back a year and a half, coming out of COVID, the skilled side recovered much faster as we would expect. I would expect that the AL IL side will I would expect that the AL IL side will probably grow faster at this point. Speaker 300:28:54I mean, there is room to grow on skilled as well. But Trilogy skilled model is a short stay. Average length of stay there is less than 30 days. Hospital discharges are where we get our patients. So there's really there is room to grow it, but you're not going to take it to 98%. Speaker 300:29:11You're always going to want to have beds available for new residents to move in. The AL IL side, I think that there is room to definitely grow that. I don't see any reason why that wouldn't go well into the 90s. But it's higher margin business, probably faster growing in the long run. As far as the option, we've got a lot of flexibility there. Speaker 300:29:34We have well over a year to exercise that option. We've got flexibility as to how we do it, whether it's cash or preferred. There may be an opportunity to do something with common stock. We're obviously eager to exercise that option. We want to own all of Trilogy. Speaker 300:29:51We would love to recognize the earnings accretion that would come along with that transaction. That being said, the price is fixed. There does increase January 1st. So that is obviously a deadline that we're going to look at as to whether we want to do it before or after that. But the value creation of Trilogy inures to us under any circumstance regardless of when we close. Speaker 300:30:13So it's we'd like to close it in an efficient way. And as Brian mentioned, we've gotten our debt multiple down to a level that we're very comfortable with. And we're just we don't want to just turn around and raise it back up without an opportunity to lower it again. Speaker 900:30:31Great. That's helpful. And then look, my second question was just on flow through. Maybe you talked about the $0.04 raise in the guidance, a penny of that seemed like a non recurring. Maybe can you talk about the NOI upside, like how many pennies was that and what the interest costs offset on that was? Speaker 900:30:53How we think about flow through going forward? Thanks. Speaker 500:30:57Yes, I mean, listen, we haven't broken it down to a penny for each segment raise or a penny for the interest. We are comfortable at the NFFO guidance for the year, the entire range of the guidance. Obviously, the midpoint is $1.25 but we put out the guidance because we're comfortable in that range, at least as of today. We may see things down the road. I mean, heck, there's been a lot of calls for a 50 basis point decrease in interest rates from the Fed next month. Speaker 500:31:30And if that were to happen, then I think interest becomes a little bit less of a headwind. So we are comfortable with the range. We haven't really talked about pennies for each the individual segment increases. As we get more visibility as the year wears on, we can refine that guidance even more. Speaker 900:31:49Great. Thanks so much. That's it for me. Speaker 100:31:55Our next question comes from Michael Carroll from RBC Capital Markets. Speaker 300:32:01Hi, Mike. Speaker 500:32:03Hey, thanks. Hey, Danny, can you talk Speaker 1100:32:04a little bit about your investment pipeline? And I know you mentioned that you're seeing some really good opportunities out there. I mean, with the improvement in the cost of capital that you've seen specifically in the stock price over the past few months, I mean, can AHR get more aggressive deploying capital and growing externally, possibly using new equity to fund some of those investments? Speaker 300:32:27I don't want to get ahead of ourselves. Obviously, now that our lockup has expired, we are able to go back to the market. I'm not saying it's something we're necessarily looking to do this month or next month. Right now, we have so many opportunity. We do have the 3rd opportunity that I mentioned that hopefully will come to fruition sometime soon. Speaker 300:32:49We've got we just started 5 new independent living villa developments within Trilogy. We just announced a new campus for Trilogy in Michigan. There are so many opportunities to grow Trilogy that as long as our capital is limited, we're probably going to focus more there. We may do the one off deal with some of our regional operating partners. I wouldn't be surprised to see something there. Speaker 300:33:14But as far as going out and starting to invest a lot in new acquisitions outside of Trilogy, I think we're going to, I mean, right now job 1 is to expand Trilogy and buy out the rest of Trilogy. I would say that's probably going to be our primary focus before you start seeing us go along into other acquisitions. Even though the opportunities are there, it kind of we see them and we'd love to take advantage of them, but we also have to Speaker 500:33:43be good stewards of capital. Investors spoke to us loud and clear during the IPO process of where they wanted to see our leverage. Partly that's because it makes the equity trade better, partly because it will allow us to take advantage of external growth opportunities out in the future once we find things that are going to meet our return requirements. And so to the extent that the stock continues to rerate, the multiple goes up, I think those opportunities become more and more attractive. But we're very cognizant of where our leverage multiple is. Speaker 500:34:14Okay, great. Speaker 1100:34:15And then I guess with regard to Trilogy, I know they've done some pretty good results over the past several quarters and probably years. I know there has been a few leadership changes or not maybe changes, but with the promotion of David becoming the President and CFO, I guess, first, congrats to David. And I guess, and second, can you provide some color on that shift, I guess, within their leadership? And what does that open up till you do? I mean, can they expand more aggressively? Speaker 1100:34:43Or is it just giving more recognition to David for his work and the stuff that he's contributed to Trilogy? Speaker 300:34:54Yes, I wouldn't read too much into that. It's not really a change in leadership. I mean, Leanne has been the CEO for 5, maybe 6 years at this point. She took over for Randy Bucker, the Founder, when he retired in 2019. Leanne has been there for 20 some odd years. Speaker 300:35:10She's been a long time COO. She's not looking to make any changes in her life. David has been the CFO for several years, I don't know, 6, 7 years. Both of them are doing a fantastic job as you can see by the results. We're big fans of both David and Leanne. Speaker 300:35:29I think this is really just an upgraded title for David. He has taken on more responsibilities as CFO, especially on the ancillary side of the ancillary business side of the company. So I really don't you shouldn't read too much into that adjustment in title. Speaker 100:35:47Okay, great. Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Griffin from Citi. Speaker 300:35:58Hey, Michael. Speaker 1200:35:59Hey, guys. How are we doing? Gabe, I want to go back to your comments just on seasonality within Trilogy and just given where kind of occupancy expectations are there. You called out a lot of the stay on the SNF side, a shorter short sort of shorter term rehab stays. So is it fair to assume Speaker 1300:36:17that occupancy is going to Speaker 1000:36:18fluctuate in the near term? Or do you Speaker 1200:36:18still expect kind of is going to fluctuate in the near term? Or do you still expect kind of the sustained increase to happen over the next few quarters? Speaker 400:36:28It's a good question. I think the hard part about where we're at right now in this kind of post COVID world in senior housing and skilled nursing is that it's really difficult to project how quickly things are going to move. So I think that what the question actually is, is about what could stop growth from happening. And right now from my seat, there's sure there's a little bit of seasonality in skilled nursing, but like I said, it's probably less than half of what we see in a traditional pre COVID year, right? So what could really disrupt kind of this long term run rate we're on that I think is at least 2 or 3 years is new supply, obviously. Speaker 400:37:13We don't see that coming, especially in skilled nursing where the number of units in America continues to decline, not increase. And on the AL side of Trilogy's business, we're not seeing any construction starts. It's at historic lows, I think even below where we were during the global financial crisis. So if supply is not picking up, the only other lever there is really the demand. And on the skilled side, you see demand kind of go down a little bit with seasonality, I think mainly driven by the flu. Speaker 400:37:43And so that's normal. I don't think it's too concerning at this point that we are seeing a little bit of seasonality in the skilled line of that business because we're seeing accelerating growth in their assisted living part of the business. And by the way, that's part of why we think Trilogy is an attractive platform, because the entire business has a different risk profile when you've got these different drivers of demand by including them all in one campus, IL, AL and skilled nursing, right? So it's always been at Trilogy. The AL summer selling season is really positive and the skilled nursing occupancy has some seasonality to it and the reverse is also true in the winter months where the skilled occupancy picks up and maybe AL drops off a little bit. Speaker 300:38:34Yes. Remember, Brett, Trilogy also has the ability to transition wings if demand is up or down for any particular service. If there's a demand for AL memory care, they can convert a wing very easily. If they need additional snip beds, as long as they've got the licenses for it, they can convert into additional snip pads. So they've got flexibility there based on the demand for the different lines of business. Speaker 300:39:03And the one more point I want Speaker 400:39:04to make on this too is occupancy is not the end all be all for Trilogy NOI growth. You couldn't see how even sequentially in the quarter, Trilogy's optimized queue mix in order to grow NOI pretty substantially, but you're not seeing huge moves in occupancy. And that's by design, right? You can pick and you can optimize the business in ways that help you to grow the NOI without necessarily pushing occupancy to the limit. And I think you're going to start to see that happen in the shops world as well, right? Speaker 400:39:39As people focus more on what's a rate that can get me back to a pre pandemic margin, they may be willing to decelerate the growth in occupancy in exchange for a rate that's more profitable. Speaker 300:39:52Yes. So, Trilogy can take more Medicare and less Medicare Advantage. They can take lower acuity Medicare residents where their daily rate may actually be a little bit lower, but the margin is much higher just because there's a lower level of care. So all kinds of things they can do to move the needle without just simply growing their skilled senses. Speaker 1200:40:16That's great. Appreciate all the color you guys gave there. And then maybe just some updated thoughts around the dividend. Obviously, the payout ratio looked like it improved about sub 90% this quarter. I know that the CapEx can be kind of lumpy on a quarterly basis. Speaker 1200:40:31But if I think back to the IPO, I think the expectation was for about 100% payout ratio for 2024. Has anything changed? And could we see that payout ratio on a full year basis kind of come inside of that maybe into the low to mid-90s? Speaker 500:40:48Yes, I think that's totally possible. If you look at the CapEx spend, if you isolate Q2, if you look at the CapEx spend and you add back the non cash interest expense, I think our AFFO payout ratio was certainly around 90%. What has changed, frankly, from the original discussion was that occupancy has increased faster than we had anticipated. The mix is very beneficial at Trilogy. Ultimately, there's a lot left to the year. Speaker 500:41:22I would classify our earnings growth expectations, the guidance we've given as still somewhat aspirational, which is to say that we can't just go on vacation and assume that these numbers are going to show up. We've got work to do to get there. And I think that if they come through the way we're currently projecting, I think there is a chance that the dividend is covered. Now it's not going to be covered at the level that we would like to see it. Obviously, we gave guidance that we want to see much deeper coverage. Speaker 500:41:53But we think that the organic earnings growth that's embedded in the portfolio will get us there, possibly in 2025 or probably in 2025. But yes, I think there is a chance we'll be below 100% payout ratio this year. Speaker 1200:42:09Great. That's it for me. Thanks for the time. Speaker 100:42:12Thanks, Graeff. Our next question comes from John Pawlowski with Green Street. Speaker 300:42:22Hey, John. Speaker 1400:42:24Hey, good morning. Just two questions from me on the SHOP portfolio. The 3.1% respor growth year over year in the quarter, are concessions still weighing down that number? Or is that kind of a clean results we should expect as a reasonable run rate moving forward? Speaker 300:42:42Yes. I think there's still there's less concessions, that's for sure. If you go back to the last earnings call, we said that our expectation is we will see RevPAR growth accelerate throughout the year. We've certainly seen it from Q1 to Q2. And I hate to provide forward looking statements, but my expectation is we'll continue to see acceleration throughout the rest Speaker 500:43:06of the year. And that's the benefit of occupancy where it is. I think at that point, you can be a little bit more strict on concessions and not handing them out. You can certainly push on street rates. And that's the benefit of having occupancy up where it is. Speaker 500:43:23If you're trying to build occupancy and raise RevPAR at the same time, it becomes much more difficult. But now that you've got a critical mass of occupancy, you can push on rate. Speaker 1400:43:33Okay. And then I want to go back to your CapEx comments. I know there's seasonality in CapEx, and it's lumpy, but it's up massively year over year versus Q2 of 2023 in your SHOP portfolio. Can you just let us know how basically for how long should we expect an above trend CapEx figure as you maybe spend some deferred CapEx that you didn't get to during COVID? Speaker 500:44:01It's a fair question, John. The reality is that we see seasonality in our CapEx spend, which sounds weird, but we do have a number of assets that are in cold weather states and it's very difficult to do a roof replacement or a parking lot resurfacing when there's snow on the ground or snow on the roof. And so the Q2 spend is higher than it was in Q1. But frankly, if you go back and look at the trailing 4 quarters of CapEx, for each of our segments that we've given guidance on, those numbers are almost exactly where we've given guidance. And what I mean by that is the Trilogy CapEx spend, we gave guidance about $900 to $1,000 a bed. Speaker 500:44:41It happens to be a trailing 4 quarters basis $10.32 So it's right where we had indicated. On the shop side, the trailing 4 quarters is about $1100 a bet and that's precisely where we gave guidance. We thought it's between $1,000 $1100 So I would say the CapEx spend is more tied to the fact that there's a couple of things. 1, we talked about the weather. Number 2, with operator swap outs, those were situations where we did not necessarily want to spend with an operator that we were replacing or even potentially a triple net lease that we were going to convert. Speaker 500:45:17So once we got the new operators in and they've been in now for a little while, that's when we want to deploy capital the way they expect or need it to be deployed. So that's a little bit of the step up. I wouldn't say there's deferred maintenance. CapEx is pretty much right where we're expecting it to be. Speaker 1400:45:37Maybe I'm missing something in disclosure. I'm not following your comments. I'm controlling for seasonality in my comments. So I know the trailing 4 quarters of SHOP is lower, but $3,500 per unit spent in Q2. I might be missing something, but and that's versus $830,000,000 from Q2 a year ago. Speaker 500:45:58You know what, that's true. It's true and it's not true. I have the benefit of seeing what our numbers were pre IPO. And so I can tell you CapEx spend in Q1 was $7.89 a bed. That's public and publicly disclosed. Speaker 500:46:16CapEx spend in Q4 was $7.93 a bed. CapEx spend is $34.96 you're right in Q4, but in Q3 2023 it was $200 a bet. Now that's pre IPO and you don't have the benefit of seeing that. But if you take those 4 quarters and put them together, it's exactly $1100 a bet. Speaker 100:46:37Yes. And I think the Speaker 300:46:37difference between Q2 last year to Q2 this year is we had Speaker 100:46:41a lot Speaker 300:46:41of operator transitions last year at this time. And we when we're doing that, we're not going to be spending a lot on CapEx. We're going to wait to get the new operator in and then kind of see what needs to be done. So the way I correct me if I'm wrong, Brian, but I think Q222 2024 is kind of a catch up quarter where we had kind of low spending the last few quarters, while we were transitioning operators and we had a lot of spend in Q2. I wouldn't expect that number to repeat itself over and over again going forward. Speaker 500:47:11Yes. It's weather related, right? And it's also that the new operators are now directing our CapEx spend. But I wouldn't expect it to be I wouldn't one thing I can guarantee, it's not going to be $3,500 a bed for 20.24. It's going to be closer to $1,000 to $11,000 a bed. Speaker 100:47:35All right. Thanks for the time. There are no further questions. Danny Pruszky, I'll turn the call back over to you. Speaker 300:47:51Thanks, Jerico. Appreciate it. And everybody on the call, I want to thank you for your time and your interest. It's been a great 6 months since we concluded our IPO and we're looking forward to continued improvement in our portfolio here at American Healthcare REIT. So have a great rest of the week everybody and we'll talk to you soon.Read morePowered by Key Takeaways Guidance increase: American Healthcare REIT raised its 2024 same-store NOI growth guidance to 12%–14% and normalized FFO to $1.23–$1.27 per share after delivering 15.7% Q2 same-store NOI growth. Senior campus outperformance: The Trilogy-operated integrated senior health campus segment achieved 24.1% year-over-year same-store NOI growth in Q2, with occupancy up to 87.4% as of July 26 and margins on track to exceed pre-COVID levels. SHOP segment gains: The SHOP portfolio delivered 49.1% year-over-year same-store NOI growth in Q2 driven by roughly 700 bps of occupancy gains and accelerating RevPAR growth, with margins expanding 200 bps to over 20%. Outpatient medical and triple-net lease segments remain stable, with 2024 same-store growth forecast flat to slightly negative for outpatient medical and 1%–3% for triple-net, while triple-net EBITDAR coverage improved to 1.29× in Q2. Capital actions include exercising $46 M of Trilogy purchase options to lower rent expense, reducing net debt to 5.9× EBITDA, and targeting ~$65 M of non-core asset sales to recycle capital and maintain prudent leverage. AI Generated. 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There are 15 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Hello and thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like Speaker 100:00:04to welcome you to the American Healthcare REIT Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Would now like to turn the conference over to Alan Peterson, Vice President of Investor Relations and Finance. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:41Good morning. Thank you for joining us for American Healthcare REIT's 2nd quarter 2024 earnings conference call. With me today are Danny Proski, President and CEO Brian Pei, Chief Financial Officer Gabe Wilhite, Chief Operating Officer and Stephane Oh, Chief Investment Officer. On today's call, Danny, Gabe and Brian will provide high level commentary discussing our results of operations, financial position and other recent news relating to American Healthcare REIT. Following these remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session with covering research analysts. Speaker 200:01:11Please be advised that this call will include forward looking statements. All statements made during this call other than statements of historical facts are forward looking statements that are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in these statements. Therefore, you should exercise caution in interpreting and relying on them. I refer you to our SEC filings, including our earnings release furnished yesterday, for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results, financial condition and prospects. All forward looking statements speak only as of today, August 6, 2024, or such other dates as may otherwise be specified. Speaker 200:01:49We assume no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. During the call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for our financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of non GAAP financial measures discussed on this call to the most directly comparable measures calculated in accordance with GAAP are included in our earnings release and supplemental information package. You can find these documents as well as our SEC filings in the audio webcast replay of this conference call on the Investor Relations section of our website at www.americanhealthcarereit.com. Speaker 200:02:33With that, I will turn the call over to our President and CEO, Danny Speaker 300:02:37Proski. Thank you, Alan. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. As we enter the latter half of twenty twenty four, demand growth for healthcare real estate remains strong as evidenced by the performance of our diversified healthcare portfolio during the first half of the year with 15.7% total same store NOI growth in the Q2 of 2024 and 14.4% same store NOI growth year to date. Within our 4 property segments, we continue to observe increased demand from an agent population, which we expect will extend at least into the latter part of the decade. Speaker 300:03:16This demand and resulting internal growth within our portfolio is surpassing our original conservative estimates prompting us to increase our guidance for both total portfolio same store NOI and earnings for fiscal year 2024. Our anticipated same store NOI growth for 2024 has been increased to a range of 12% to 14%. Revised normalized funds from operations guidance now stands at $1.23 to $1.27 per fully diluted share. Brian will provide more details regarding our revised guidance later in the call. I want to express my gratitude to the entire team here at American Healthcare REIT and our regional operating partners for their commitment to delivering excellent results for all of our stakeholders. Speaker 300:04:05Our team's hard work is demonstrated in our quarterly results. Reflecting on the current environment for healthcare real estate, I've spent 32 years working within the healthcare REIT space and have never been more optimistic about our businesses growth prospects. The strength we have seen over the last 18 months within our industry is the most robust I have observed and the outlook for our company at least over the next 3 to 5 years looks extremely promising. When evaluating our portfolio, I believe we are well positioned to continue delivering sector leading performance within our managed portfolio, which includes our integrated senior health campuses and SHOP segments. We are particularly excited about our assisted living exposure. Speaker 300:04:50Industry data from the Q2 shows that combined assisted living rate and occupancy growth has outperformed compared to other long term care sectors for 11 consecutive quarters. Industry wide assisted living occupancy now stands at approximately 85% in the Q2 of 20 24, and we are seeing the industry trend of AL outperformance within our portfolio, although our results are further surpassing certain benchmarks. Our same store integrated senior health campus and SHOP segment occupancies exceeded the industry assisted living occupancy average in the Q2 of 2024. Our same store shop assets coupled above industry average occupancy with accelerating RevPAR growth year over year in the Q2. These results are a testament to the quality of our portfolio and the quality of our operating partners. Speaker 300:05:53While still early in our history as a traded REIT, we hope that through all the interactions with the investment community, we are establishing ourselves as leaders in both the public markets and the healthcare real estate sector. Nevertheless, with all the additional work, we're not losing sight Speaker 400:06:16of Speaker 300:06:25Number 2, committing to strong operating performance through our hands on asset management approach, utilizing best in class regional operators. And number 3, demonstrating prudent capital allocation to optimize our portfolio's earnings and intrinsic value, focusing on attractive risk adjusted returns. Looking ahead, I'm excited to continue executing our plans alongside the entire AHR team to achieve further growth across our diversified healthcare portfolio. I will now turn it over to Gabe to discuss our operational results in further detail. Speaker 400:07:00Thanks, Danny. As Danny mentioned, we're thrilled to see robust levels of demand driving portfolio performance, particularly within our managed segments, which accounts for approximately 60% of our pro rata cash NOI. Within our managed segments, our integrated senior health campuses operated by Trilogy Health Services continue to set the standard for healthcare operations across all levels of long term care, particularly assisted living and skilled nursing. And you can see this reflected in our 24.1% year over year same store NOI growth within that segment in the Q2 of 2024 compared to the same period in 2023. Trilogy's unique model, purpose built facilities and strong reputation have continued to drive demand. Speaker 400:07:46Occupancy continued its sequential gains in the 2nd quarter with a 20 basis point increase from the results in the Q1 of 2024 and occupancy continued its climb higher subsequent to the end of the second quarter with spot same store occupancy as of July 26, 2024 at 87.4%. Skilled nursing occupancy particular remains well above the industry average, although we've seen some seasonality return to that segment, albeit to a lesser extent than historic norms and not enough to offset gains in other areas. I'm also excited to see the benefits of Trilogy's moat, as I've explained to many in the past, playing out in the results. The unique model and regional scale allow resources to be allocated efficiently across our campuses, providing a stable foundation for further margin expansion with continued top line growth and continued expense management, which naturally ultimately leads to sustained NOI growth. Over the balance of 2024, with demand increasing for all care settings within the campus, skilled nursing, assisted living and independent living, I expect our integrated senior health campuses occupancy to continue to grow and of course incremental occupancy gains would be expected to result in a higher pull through to the bottom line. Speaker 400:09:03But again, because of Trilogy's unique business, we actually see multiple levers outside of growth for optimization and margin expansion beyond current levels. For example, as operator of choice in its markets, Trilogy can focus on queue mix and value based care opportunities to provide for top line growth, completely independent occupancy growth. Another example, Trilogy's industry leading employee retention, which we've seen improving steadily, provides an opportunity for further expense management. Trilogy is constantly improving the employee experience, which allowed them to eliminate the need for agency nursing completely long ago and reduces unnecessary overtime expenses and the wasted costs associated with employee turnover. Now that being said, Trilogy's biggest advantage by far is that Trilogy is known for its high quality care and we wholeheartedly believe that people see value in that and when making a decision continue to want their loved ones in the Trilogy facility. Speaker 400:10:01In our SHOP segment, we're achieving industry leading levels of NOI growth by 1, partnering with best in class regional operators and 2, as a product of our work repositioning underperforming properties with new operators. Our same store year over year shop NOI grew by 49.1% in the Q2 of 2024 compared to the Q2 of 2023, driven by approximately 700 basis points in occupancy gains compared to the Q2 of 2023 and also accelerating RevPOR growth above and beyond export growth. Furthermore, and as a credit to our hands on asset management approach, we're pleased to report that same store NOI margins for our shop segment expanded by 200 basis points from the prior quarter and exceeded 20% in Q2 2024. Similar to our integrated senior health campuses segment, occupancy in the shop segment is trending higher post quarter end with spot same store occupancy as of July 26, 2024 at 88.1%. At these levels, more options become available to our operating partners to drive investment performance and to support further NOI gains in the second half of twenty twenty four into 2025 and beyond. Speaker 400:11:14The strategy moving forward for the team and our operating group in addition to delivering occupancy gains will be to further optimize our pricing power where demand dictates and control expenses to deliver further margin expansion from current levels. I continue to believe that partnering with strong operators is the single most important factor driving successful senior housing investments. We are confident that our regional asset management approach during these results could be successfully expanded upon with other growth opportunities when the time is right and appropriate for Speaker 500:11:43us to grow externally. With Speaker 400:11:46that, I'll hand it over to Brian. Speaker 500:11:49Thanks Gabe. In the Q2 of 2024, we earned $0.33 per fully diluted share of normalized funds from operation, driven largely by 15.7% same store net operating income growth across our combined portfolio. We are increasing our full year 2024 NFFO guidance to a range of $1.23 to $1.27 per fully diluted share, representing a $0.04 increase to the midpoint of earnings guidance. This upward revision is primarily due to the increased expectations NOI growth in 2024 across our combined same store portfolio of between 12% 14%. We are also adjusting same store guidance for our various segments for the full year 2024 as follows. Speaker 500:12:42We now expect our Integrated Senior Health Campuses segment to grow between 18% 20%. And in our SHOP segment, we now project 45% to 50% NOI growth in 2024. As Danny mentioned earlier, the pace at which demand increased among our Managed Care segments is a positive development, prompting the revisions to our total portfolio and segment level NOI guidance for 2024. In my mind and as I have mentioned often, it was never a matter of if we would be able to achieve this level of performance, only a matter of when. And I'm glad that we are getting there faster than we had originally forecasted. Speaker 500:13:24Our guidance for outpatient medical and triple net leased segments remains unchanged. To remind everyone, we anticipate flat to slightly declining growth within outpatient medical and 1% to 3% growth within our triple net leased properties in 2024. We expect stability from our outpatient medical segment where our team is actively managing tenant move outs with incremental leasing in the back half of the year. The anticipated move outs are expected to occur in the Q4 of 2024, but we anticipate healthy new leasing and re leasing activity through the end of the year to partially offset those occupancy headwinds. Within our triple net leased segment, we continue to see improving lease coverage levels for our tenants with total triple net leased EBITDAR coverage levels ticking up sequentially from 1.25 times last quarter to 1.29 times in the Q2 of 2024. Speaker 500:14:22The most meaningful improvement in segment rent coverage occurred for our skilled nursing and senior housing leased segments currently at 1.34x and 1.11x EBITDAR coverage respectively. With respect to full year NFFO guidance changes, the upside is being driven by significant same store earnings growth in excess of previous expectations as well as some minor non recurring income this quarter with an ongoing offset from increased borrowing costs. In the quarter, we received approximately $1,800,000 in non recurring recoveries from former tenants, resulting in slightly more than $0.01 per share increase to our Q2 2024 and full year earnings. I would not anticipate those amounts to repeat in subsequent quarters. Interest expense remains a headwind to earnings as we anticipate higher interest costs going forward from several factors. Speaker 500:15:23Asset sales are taking longer than originally anticipated, which means debt paydowns are delayed until later in the year. We financed a few lease buyouts at Trilogy utilizing debt, resulting in lower facility rent expense, but higher interest costs, higher variable rate debt costs due to changes to short term interest rate expectations as determined by the Fed, non cash interest expense is higher related to write offs of previously unamortized loan fees, loan fees related to extending revolving lines of credit and GAAP above and below market rate debt adjustments. Although these amounts are showing up in earnings, they are non cash charges and do not affect cash flow from operations. Taking a look at our balance sheet, organic internal earnings growth has improved our net debt to annualized adjusted EBITDA ratio by a half a turn to 5.9 times as of the end of the second quarter in 2024 as compared to 6.4 times at the end of Q1, twenty twenty four. Turning to our capital allocation activity. Speaker 500:16:31During Q2, 2024, we exercised purchase options on 3 campuses within our Integrated Senior Health Campus segment, totaling approximately $46,000,000 These buildings carried a lease rate of approximately 9.1% and buying them out reduced our facility rent expense, enhanced segment level earnings and importantly allowed us to gain control of the real estate underlying our operating assets. We are maintaining our disposition proceeds guidance with expectations to sell approximately $50,000,000 of additional non core properties for the remainder of the year, bringing full year 2024 sales proceeds to approximately $65,000,000 As previously stated, we continue to expose assets to the market to further recycle capital within our portfolio. We evaluate additional dispositions based on whether or not we are able to attain attractive pricing, which in turn supports earnings and NAV accretion and further deleverages the balance sheet or allows for modest external growth. Our approach to capital allocation remains measured and is aimed at maximizing value for all AHR stakeholders. That concludes our prepared remarks. Speaker 500:17:45And with that, operator, we are now ready to open the line for questions. Speaker 100:17:54Thank you. And the floor is now open for your questions. Our first question comes from Joshua DeNelier from Bank of America. Speaker 600:18:34Yes. Hey, guys. Everyone's doing well. I just wanted to kind of maybe touch base on Trilogy. It's kind of newer to the public markets. Speaker 600:18:43Just kind of how should we kind of think about like the rate growth going forward, from just all the different moving pieces? I know like CMS is moving rates and then like the different states. I guess any kind of insight into the go forward, if there's any certainty at this point? Speaker 300:19:00Thanks, Josh. This is Danny. Good morning and thanks for joining us. Good afternoon to you. And I'm going to hand it over to Gabe for that one. Speaker 400:19:06Hey, Josh. So I think Trilogy to think about their business, it's basically a mix of senior housing and skilled nursing that boils down to about 55% skilled nursing beds and 45% senior housing beds, which is predominantly AL and with a little bit of IL. On the AL, IL senior housing side of the business, I think the rate growth acts very much like the rest of our competitors in the rest of the nation. Trilogy maybe a little bit better than Bose because they're higher occupied already, so they've got more pricing power. But more important than that, they're kind of the preferred option in the markets that they're in. Speaker 400:19:44So we saw on their senior housing side about 6.5% to 7% year over year growth in rate. I think they'll continue to have pricing power there. On the skilled nursing side, it's obviously a mix. And within that skilled nursing component, you've got a certain percentage that's private pay, which acts a lot like the private pay on the AL and IL part of the business. Although Trilogy saw outsized growth in rate in that part of their skilled nursing business at 9.3% year over year. Speaker 400:20:17With Medicare and Medicaid, I think we've seen the reimbursement environment steadily improving. And part of it is catching up to what was really incredible inflation over the last year and a half and getting the rates to a spot where it takes into account, especially the increases in compensation expenses that we've had. So we expect that to be to continue to be positive. Specifically with Medicare, they put out the final rule that said that the national average increase for skilled nursing would be 4.2%. In Trilogy's markets, we expect it to be a little bit better based on reflecting the increase in labor expenses over the last year. Speaker 400:21:02On the Medicaid part of the business, I think this might be the most interesting part of the business as far as where rate growth can go because the states that Trilogy operates in are shifting more and more to value based care models, where if you provide the highest quality of care, you're going to be rewarded for it in terms of an add on or additional rate. And the things that they look at are things that Trilogy performs really well in, 5 star rating, staffing rating, hospitalization rates in certain conditions like pressure ulcers, things like this. And that's one of the things we really like about partnering with Trilogy and all of our operators are high quality operators. But Trilogy kind of stands ahead of everyone in providing the highest quality of care. And now the reimbursement environment is really starting to recognize and appreciate that level of care and give the people who are doing it the best a little bit more of an incentive to continue to perform that way. Speaker 600:22:01No, that's good color. Thanks Gabe. And Brian, you mentioned asset sales are taking a bit longer than you expected. Is there any kind of color you can provide on like what's driving that delay or? Speaker 500:22:13Yes, good question. Actually, Stephane is on the front line of that. I'd actually like him to weigh in. Speaker 100:22:20Hey, thanks Brian. Hey Josh, nice to hear. Speaker 700:22:24Yes, so in terms of what's delaying deals, I mean, I think it really is a matter of buyers are tending to be a little more careful about their diligence. They want to be they want to understand, for example, what's going on, on the CapEx level. So they're just digging in a little bit more on that end. And I think part of that is related to the lenders and what they're expecting as well on their side as far as the underwriting is concerned. So, I think a little bit of it is a push down from the lenders, but I also think that in the market today where you've got a very limited amount of supply in terms of assets that are out there, especially on the MOB side or outpatient medical side. Speaker 700:23:17I think they are just being a little more careful about what they're buying and what they're paying for. And so I think that's what's delaying really some of the progress in terms of getting deals done. Speaker 500:23:33And Josh, oddly enough, we're not actually seeing a backup in pricing. So it's not as though cap rates are moving from where we were originally thinking we could get deals done. It's as Stephane just described, it's really way more stringent due diligence probably brought on by lenders. Interesting. Thanks. Speaker 500:23:54Thanks guys. Speaker 100:23:59Our next question comes from Austin Burschmidt from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Speaker 800:24:07Great. Thanks. Good morning, everybody out there. So for the Integrated Health campuses, Gabe, really appreciate all the detail you provided on that segment and some of these levers and opportunities that you highlighted occupancy, queue mix and expense management, I think were kind of the primary. What does this all kind of roll up and mean for the margin expansion potential over time? Speaker 800:24:31Can you just frame that up for us a little bit? Thanks. Speaker 300:24:35Yes. So we're very pleased with the direction that we've seen from the margins at Trilogy. We're still below where we were pre COVID, but we're getting closer. Every quarter there seems to be pretty good movement. My expectation is that we'll surpass the pre COVID margins. Speaker 300:24:53It could take a little bit longer. I think part of that is because I'm expecting higher occupancies and we're already at higher occupancies than pre COVID, but I expect those to continue ticking up. But we've got good wind in our backs from a reimbursement perspective. Gabe mentioned Medicaid has been moving up at a very nice clip. October 1st, when that new Medicare rate kicks in, that's going to be very, very helpful for Trilogy. Speaker 300:25:20So I mean Trilogy's margin pre COVID was kind of a 19 ish range and we're not too far off that. I would expect us to surpass that. Speaker 800:25:32Appreciate some of the thoughts there. And then just switching over maybe to the shops segment. You've alluded to exploring opportunities to grow that segment at the right time, similar to kind of the Oregon deal you did earlier this year. Any update or thought process around the opportunities that lie in front of you either with the existing operator base or new relationships? Speaker 300:25:55Yes. So, good question. We've had a couple of opportunities that we've done over the last year and a half, mainly because of mezz position we were in. We took over a portfolio in Texas, we're very pleased with, the one in Oregon that you just mentioned. There is one more kind of coming down the pike, which we really are not ready to disclose anything on it. Speaker 300:26:16If and when that deal closes, we'll disclose it at that point. Speaker 500:26:20I mean, sort of top level Austin, there's tremendous opportunity in the market. And I think you're seeing some of our peers one of our peers able to take advantage of that. We see those same opportunities. We love the fact that we've got these great regional operator relationships. They're bringing us deals. Speaker 500:26:38And we are a little bit capital constrained at the present time. We don't want to we fought hard to get our leverage where it is, down to 5.9 times and we're very protective of that. So hopefully at some point the stock rerates and we'll be able to grow externally. But for now we're being extremely selective. Speaker 300:26:56Yes. So we've closed on the deals that we've just discussed. We've been growing within Trilogy. We view Trilogy as our best risk adjusted return today. So we've been kind of taking our limited capital dollars and really putting it towards Trilogy expansion. Speaker 800:27:12Yes. That makes a lot of sense. But I guess on this one more SHOP opportunity, I mean, A, I guess what are the plans to fund it to the extent that it does materialize? And is this similar to those other opportunities you've highlighted where there's pretty significant NOI growth and occupancy upside? Speaker 300:27:34Yes. So we would be taking it over for the cost of the debt, so there'd be no new dollars going out the door. And we view it as a very opportunistic play with a lot of upside. Speaker 100:27:49Great. Thank you. Our next question comes from Ronald Kampton from Morgan Stanley. Speaker 900:28:04Hey, just two quick ones. So going back to Trilogy, I think following up on that line of questioning, I think you talked about potentially getting a record margins. Maybe can you talk about what you think the occupancy levels are at that point as well? Could you get to sort of the 90s? And also maybe just a quick update on the potential buyout. Speaker 900:28:25Obviously, the numbers have been accelerating. Just how you're thinking about sort of the buyout and funding it? Speaker 300:28:30Yes. So Trilogy's occupancy has ticked up very nicely. Right now, the AL IL and the skilled occupancy Speaker 1000:28:39are roughly the same. AL has Speaker 300:28:39caught up nicely. If we go occupancy are roughly the same. AL has caught up nicely. If we go back a year and a half, coming out of COVID, the skilled side recovered much faster as we would expect. I would expect that the AL IL side will I would expect that the AL IL side will probably grow faster at this point. Speaker 300:28:54I mean, there is room to grow on skilled as well. But Trilogy skilled model is a short stay. Average length of stay there is less than 30 days. Hospital discharges are where we get our patients. So there's really there is room to grow it, but you're not going to take it to 98%. Speaker 300:29:11You're always going to want to have beds available for new residents to move in. The AL IL side, I think that there is room to definitely grow that. I don't see any reason why that wouldn't go well into the 90s. But it's higher margin business, probably faster growing in the long run. As far as the option, we've got a lot of flexibility there. Speaker 300:29:34We have well over a year to exercise that option. We've got flexibility as to how we do it, whether it's cash or preferred. There may be an opportunity to do something with common stock. We're obviously eager to exercise that option. We want to own all of Trilogy. Speaker 300:29:51We would love to recognize the earnings accretion that would come along with that transaction. That being said, the price is fixed. There does increase January 1st. So that is obviously a deadline that we're going to look at as to whether we want to do it before or after that. But the value creation of Trilogy inures to us under any circumstance regardless of when we close. Speaker 300:30:13So it's we'd like to close it in an efficient way. And as Brian mentioned, we've gotten our debt multiple down to a level that we're very comfortable with. And we're just we don't want to just turn around and raise it back up without an opportunity to lower it again. Speaker 900:30:31Great. That's helpful. And then look, my second question was just on flow through. Maybe you talked about the $0.04 raise in the guidance, a penny of that seemed like a non recurring. Maybe can you talk about the NOI upside, like how many pennies was that and what the interest costs offset on that was? Speaker 900:30:53How we think about flow through going forward? Thanks. Speaker 500:30:57Yes, I mean, listen, we haven't broken it down to a penny for each segment raise or a penny for the interest. We are comfortable at the NFFO guidance for the year, the entire range of the guidance. Obviously, the midpoint is $1.25 but we put out the guidance because we're comfortable in that range, at least as of today. We may see things down the road. I mean, heck, there's been a lot of calls for a 50 basis point decrease in interest rates from the Fed next month. Speaker 500:31:30And if that were to happen, then I think interest becomes a little bit less of a headwind. So we are comfortable with the range. We haven't really talked about pennies for each the individual segment increases. As we get more visibility as the year wears on, we can refine that guidance even more. Speaker 900:31:49Great. Thanks so much. That's it for me. Speaker 100:31:55Our next question comes from Michael Carroll from RBC Capital Markets. Speaker 300:32:01Hi, Mike. Speaker 500:32:03Hey, thanks. Hey, Danny, can you talk Speaker 1100:32:04a little bit about your investment pipeline? And I know you mentioned that you're seeing some really good opportunities out there. I mean, with the improvement in the cost of capital that you've seen specifically in the stock price over the past few months, I mean, can AHR get more aggressive deploying capital and growing externally, possibly using new equity to fund some of those investments? Speaker 300:32:27I don't want to get ahead of ourselves. Obviously, now that our lockup has expired, we are able to go back to the market. I'm not saying it's something we're necessarily looking to do this month or next month. Right now, we have so many opportunity. We do have the 3rd opportunity that I mentioned that hopefully will come to fruition sometime soon. Speaker 300:32:49We've got we just started 5 new independent living villa developments within Trilogy. We just announced a new campus for Trilogy in Michigan. There are so many opportunities to grow Trilogy that as long as our capital is limited, we're probably going to focus more there. We may do the one off deal with some of our regional operating partners. I wouldn't be surprised to see something there. Speaker 300:33:14But as far as going out and starting to invest a lot in new acquisitions outside of Trilogy, I think we're going to, I mean, right now job 1 is to expand Trilogy and buy out the rest of Trilogy. I would say that's probably going to be our primary focus before you start seeing us go along into other acquisitions. Even though the opportunities are there, it kind of we see them and we'd love to take advantage of them, but we also have to Speaker 500:33:43be good stewards of capital. Investors spoke to us loud and clear during the IPO process of where they wanted to see our leverage. Partly that's because it makes the equity trade better, partly because it will allow us to take advantage of external growth opportunities out in the future once we find things that are going to meet our return requirements. And so to the extent that the stock continues to rerate, the multiple goes up, I think those opportunities become more and more attractive. But we're very cognizant of where our leverage multiple is. Speaker 500:34:14Okay, great. Speaker 1100:34:15And then I guess with regard to Trilogy, I know they've done some pretty good results over the past several quarters and probably years. I know there has been a few leadership changes or not maybe changes, but with the promotion of David becoming the President and CFO, I guess, first, congrats to David. And I guess, and second, can you provide some color on that shift, I guess, within their leadership? And what does that open up till you do? I mean, can they expand more aggressively? Speaker 1100:34:43Or is it just giving more recognition to David for his work and the stuff that he's contributed to Trilogy? Speaker 300:34:54Yes, I wouldn't read too much into that. It's not really a change in leadership. I mean, Leanne has been the CEO for 5, maybe 6 years at this point. She took over for Randy Bucker, the Founder, when he retired in 2019. Leanne has been there for 20 some odd years. Speaker 300:35:10She's been a long time COO. She's not looking to make any changes in her life. David has been the CFO for several years, I don't know, 6, 7 years. Both of them are doing a fantastic job as you can see by the results. We're big fans of both David and Leanne. Speaker 300:35:29I think this is really just an upgraded title for David. He has taken on more responsibilities as CFO, especially on the ancillary side of the ancillary business side of the company. So I really don't you shouldn't read too much into that adjustment in title. Speaker 100:35:47Okay, great. Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Griffin from Citi. Speaker 300:35:58Hey, Michael. Speaker 1200:35:59Hey, guys. How are we doing? Gabe, I want to go back to your comments just on seasonality within Trilogy and just given where kind of occupancy expectations are there. You called out a lot of the stay on the SNF side, a shorter short sort of shorter term rehab stays. So is it fair to assume Speaker 1300:36:17that occupancy is going to Speaker 1000:36:18fluctuate in the near term? Or do you Speaker 1200:36:18still expect kind of is going to fluctuate in the near term? Or do you still expect kind of the sustained increase to happen over the next few quarters? Speaker 400:36:28It's a good question. I think the hard part about where we're at right now in this kind of post COVID world in senior housing and skilled nursing is that it's really difficult to project how quickly things are going to move. So I think that what the question actually is, is about what could stop growth from happening. And right now from my seat, there's sure there's a little bit of seasonality in skilled nursing, but like I said, it's probably less than half of what we see in a traditional pre COVID year, right? So what could really disrupt kind of this long term run rate we're on that I think is at least 2 or 3 years is new supply, obviously. Speaker 400:37:13We don't see that coming, especially in skilled nursing where the number of units in America continues to decline, not increase. And on the AL side of Trilogy's business, we're not seeing any construction starts. It's at historic lows, I think even below where we were during the global financial crisis. So if supply is not picking up, the only other lever there is really the demand. And on the skilled side, you see demand kind of go down a little bit with seasonality, I think mainly driven by the flu. Speaker 400:37:43And so that's normal. I don't think it's too concerning at this point that we are seeing a little bit of seasonality in the skilled line of that business because we're seeing accelerating growth in their assisted living part of the business. And by the way, that's part of why we think Trilogy is an attractive platform, because the entire business has a different risk profile when you've got these different drivers of demand by including them all in one campus, IL, AL and skilled nursing, right? So it's always been at Trilogy. The AL summer selling season is really positive and the skilled nursing occupancy has some seasonality to it and the reverse is also true in the winter months where the skilled occupancy picks up and maybe AL drops off a little bit. Speaker 300:38:34Yes. Remember, Brett, Trilogy also has the ability to transition wings if demand is up or down for any particular service. If there's a demand for AL memory care, they can convert a wing very easily. If they need additional snip beds, as long as they've got the licenses for it, they can convert into additional snip pads. So they've got flexibility there based on the demand for the different lines of business. Speaker 300:39:03And the one more point I want Speaker 400:39:04to make on this too is occupancy is not the end all be all for Trilogy NOI growth. You couldn't see how even sequentially in the quarter, Trilogy's optimized queue mix in order to grow NOI pretty substantially, but you're not seeing huge moves in occupancy. And that's by design, right? You can pick and you can optimize the business in ways that help you to grow the NOI without necessarily pushing occupancy to the limit. And I think you're going to start to see that happen in the shops world as well, right? Speaker 400:39:39As people focus more on what's a rate that can get me back to a pre pandemic margin, they may be willing to decelerate the growth in occupancy in exchange for a rate that's more profitable. Speaker 300:39:52Yes. So, Trilogy can take more Medicare and less Medicare Advantage. They can take lower acuity Medicare residents where their daily rate may actually be a little bit lower, but the margin is much higher just because there's a lower level of care. So all kinds of things they can do to move the needle without just simply growing their skilled senses. Speaker 1200:40:16That's great. Appreciate all the color you guys gave there. And then maybe just some updated thoughts around the dividend. Obviously, the payout ratio looked like it improved about sub 90% this quarter. I know that the CapEx can be kind of lumpy on a quarterly basis. Speaker 1200:40:31But if I think back to the IPO, I think the expectation was for about 100% payout ratio for 2024. Has anything changed? And could we see that payout ratio on a full year basis kind of come inside of that maybe into the low to mid-90s? Speaker 500:40:48Yes, I think that's totally possible. If you look at the CapEx spend, if you isolate Q2, if you look at the CapEx spend and you add back the non cash interest expense, I think our AFFO payout ratio was certainly around 90%. What has changed, frankly, from the original discussion was that occupancy has increased faster than we had anticipated. The mix is very beneficial at Trilogy. Ultimately, there's a lot left to the year. Speaker 500:41:22I would classify our earnings growth expectations, the guidance we've given as still somewhat aspirational, which is to say that we can't just go on vacation and assume that these numbers are going to show up. We've got work to do to get there. And I think that if they come through the way we're currently projecting, I think there is a chance that the dividend is covered. Now it's not going to be covered at the level that we would like to see it. Obviously, we gave guidance that we want to see much deeper coverage. Speaker 500:41:53But we think that the organic earnings growth that's embedded in the portfolio will get us there, possibly in 2025 or probably in 2025. But yes, I think there is a chance we'll be below 100% payout ratio this year. Speaker 1200:42:09Great. That's it for me. Thanks for the time. Speaker 100:42:12Thanks, Graeff. Our next question comes from John Pawlowski with Green Street. Speaker 300:42:22Hey, John. Speaker 1400:42:24Hey, good morning. Just two questions from me on the SHOP portfolio. The 3.1% respor growth year over year in the quarter, are concessions still weighing down that number? Or is that kind of a clean results we should expect as a reasonable run rate moving forward? Speaker 300:42:42Yes. I think there's still there's less concessions, that's for sure. If you go back to the last earnings call, we said that our expectation is we will see RevPAR growth accelerate throughout the year. We've certainly seen it from Q1 to Q2. And I hate to provide forward looking statements, but my expectation is we'll continue to see acceleration throughout the rest Speaker 500:43:06of the year. And that's the benefit of occupancy where it is. I think at that point, you can be a little bit more strict on concessions and not handing them out. You can certainly push on street rates. And that's the benefit of having occupancy up where it is. Speaker 500:43:23If you're trying to build occupancy and raise RevPAR at the same time, it becomes much more difficult. But now that you've got a critical mass of occupancy, you can push on rate. Speaker 1400:43:33Okay. And then I want to go back to your CapEx comments. I know there's seasonality in CapEx, and it's lumpy, but it's up massively year over year versus Q2 of 2023 in your SHOP portfolio. Can you just let us know how basically for how long should we expect an above trend CapEx figure as you maybe spend some deferred CapEx that you didn't get to during COVID? Speaker 500:44:01It's a fair question, John. The reality is that we see seasonality in our CapEx spend, which sounds weird, but we do have a number of assets that are in cold weather states and it's very difficult to do a roof replacement or a parking lot resurfacing when there's snow on the ground or snow on the roof. And so the Q2 spend is higher than it was in Q1. But frankly, if you go back and look at the trailing 4 quarters of CapEx, for each of our segments that we've given guidance on, those numbers are almost exactly where we've given guidance. And what I mean by that is the Trilogy CapEx spend, we gave guidance about $900 to $1,000 a bed. Speaker 500:44:41It happens to be a trailing 4 quarters basis $10.32 So it's right where we had indicated. On the shop side, the trailing 4 quarters is about $1100 a bet and that's precisely where we gave guidance. We thought it's between $1,000 $1100 So I would say the CapEx spend is more tied to the fact that there's a couple of things. 1, we talked about the weather. Number 2, with operator swap outs, those were situations where we did not necessarily want to spend with an operator that we were replacing or even potentially a triple net lease that we were going to convert. Speaker 500:45:17So once we got the new operators in and they've been in now for a little while, that's when we want to deploy capital the way they expect or need it to be deployed. So that's a little bit of the step up. I wouldn't say there's deferred maintenance. CapEx is pretty much right where we're expecting it to be. Speaker 1400:45:37Maybe I'm missing something in disclosure. I'm not following your comments. I'm controlling for seasonality in my comments. So I know the trailing 4 quarters of SHOP is lower, but $3,500 per unit spent in Q2. I might be missing something, but and that's versus $830,000,000 from Q2 a year ago. Speaker 500:45:58You know what, that's true. It's true and it's not true. I have the benefit of seeing what our numbers were pre IPO. And so I can tell you CapEx spend in Q1 was $7.89 a bed. That's public and publicly disclosed. Speaker 500:46:16CapEx spend in Q4 was $7.93 a bed. CapEx spend is $34.96 you're right in Q4, but in Q3 2023 it was $200 a bet. Now that's pre IPO and you don't have the benefit of seeing that. But if you take those 4 quarters and put them together, it's exactly $1100 a bet. Speaker 100:46:37Yes. And I think the Speaker 300:46:37difference between Q2 last year to Q2 this year is we had Speaker 100:46:41a lot Speaker 300:46:41of operator transitions last year at this time. And we when we're doing that, we're not going to be spending a lot on CapEx. We're going to wait to get the new operator in and then kind of see what needs to be done. So the way I correct me if I'm wrong, Brian, but I think Q222 2024 is kind of a catch up quarter where we had kind of low spending the last few quarters, while we were transitioning operators and we had a lot of spend in Q2. I wouldn't expect that number to repeat itself over and over again going forward. Speaker 500:47:11Yes. It's weather related, right? And it's also that the new operators are now directing our CapEx spend. But I wouldn't expect it to be I wouldn't one thing I can guarantee, it's not going to be $3,500 a bed for 20.24. It's going to be closer to $1,000 to $11,000 a bed. Speaker 100:47:35All right. Thanks for the time. There are no further questions. Danny Pruszky, I'll turn the call back over to you. Speaker 300:47:51Thanks, Jerico. Appreciate it. And everybody on the call, I want to thank you for your time and your interest. It's been a great 6 months since we concluded our IPO and we're looking forward to continued improvement in our portfolio here at American Healthcare REIT. So have a great rest of the week everybody and we'll talk to you soon.Read morePowered by