NASDAQ:DVAX Dynavax Technologies Q2 2024 Earnings Report $11.28 -0.06 (-0.49%) As of 09:57 AM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Dynavax Technologies EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.08Consensus EPS $0.06Beat/MissBeat by +$0.02One Year Ago EPS$0.03Dynavax Technologies Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$73.80 millionExpected Revenue$76.92 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$3.12 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADynavax Technologies Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/6/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, August 6, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsDynavax Technologies' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Dynavax Technologies Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 6, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Dynavax Technologies Second Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. At the end of the company's prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions and provide specific participation instructions at that time. I would now like to turn the call over to Paul Vaux, Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:23Thank you for participating in today's call. Joining me from Dynavax are Ryan Spencer, Chief Executive Officer Don Casale, Chief Commercial Officer Rob Jansen, Chief Medical Officer and Kelly McDonnell, our Chief Financial Officer. Earlier today, Dynavax released financial results for the Q2 ended June 30, 2024. Copies of the press release and a supplementary slide presentation are available on Dynavax's website. Before we begin, I advise you that we will be making forward looking statements today based on our current expectations and beliefs, including but not limited to potential market sizes, market segmentation, effective marketing efforts, future expected market share and related growth rates and related ACIP recommendation impact on each financial guidance and trends, including revenue, profitability, cash flow and sufficiency of current capitalization, timing and results of FDA submissions, clinical trial starts and data readouts and potential future uses of or demand for our CPG1018 adjuvant. Speaker 100:01:31These statements involve risks and uncertainties and our actual results may differ materially. These risks are summarized in today's press release and detailed in the Risk Factors section of our SEC filings, including today's quarterly report on Form 10Q. Our forward looking statements speak as of today and we undertake no obligation to update such statements. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Ryan. Speaker 200:01:59Thanks, Paul. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us to review our Q2 2024 results. We've achieved another record quarter for HEPLISAV B net product sales as we strengthen our leadership position in the U. S. Adult hepatitis B vaccine market, notching continued year over year market share gains for the total market and in key market segments. Speaker 200:02:22Based on our strong results in Q2 and the continued strengthening of the hepatitis B vaccine market across Q2 and into early Q3, we are reaffirming our HEPLISAV B product revenue guidance for the full year 2024. Longer term, we are highly optimistic about the adult hepatitis B B vaccine market of over 130,000,000 eligible patients, which is one of the largest addressable patient populations for vaccines in the U. S. We expect the market opportunity for FLTEN B to grow to over $800,000,000 by 2027 with continued growth in both market share and market size through the end of the decade. We also anticipate long term demand for HEPLISAV beyond 2,030 as a result of the continued penetration of the unvaccinated adult cohort as well as expanding market share, providing a substantial long term revenue opportunity for HEPLISAV B. Speaker 200:03:16For our pipeline development, we are pleased to have recently initiated our Phase onetwo trial for our novel shingles vaccine program and remain excited for several upcoming milestones, including readouts from the shingle study as well as our TDAP and PLAY vaccine programs expected across 2024 2025. In addition to this progress and bolstered by our strong financial position, we continue to evaluate strategic opportunities to grow beyond our internal organic pipeline within the infectious disease space, which we believe would enable us to further diversify our product portfolio and create future commercial opportunities. We look forward to providing updates on these efforts in the future. I'll now turn the call over to Don and Rob, who will provide more details on HEPLISAV B results and our pipeline progress respectively before Kelly reviews our financial results for the Q2. Don? Speaker 300:04:12Thank you, Ryan. We are thrilled with the performance and record break in sales for HEPLISAV B in the Q2. HEPLISAV B achieved over $70,000,000 in net product revenue in the quarter supported by hepatitis B vaccine market growth and increases in HEPLISAV market share. During our last earnings call, we said that the hepatitis B vaccine market began to strengthen in early Q2 as the focus of healthcare providers and retail pharmacy shifted back to prioritizing non respiratory vaccines. That dynamic continue to play out throughout the quarter as customers reprioritized adoption of the ACIP universal recommendation to help protect their patients from hepatitis B. Speaker 300:04:53HEPLISAV B continued to increase its total U. S. Market share year over year, achieving an estimated 42% market share in the second quarter compared to 39% during the same period last year. HEPLISAV's strong performance continues to be driven by 2 critical segments, retail pharmacy and integrated delivery networks or IDN. In retail, HEPLISAV B's 2nd quarter estimated market share increased to approximately 59% compared to approximately 45% during the same period last year. Speaker 300:05:28For IDN, HEPLISAV B's estimated market share increased to approximately 56% compared to approximately 53% for Q2 last year. During the quarter, several top national retail chains and many large IDN systems established hepatitis B focused initiatives and campaigns to increase hepatitis B vaccination. We are encouraged by the focus and commitment of these customers and expect this momentum to continue into Q3 as healthcare providers continue to mobilize around the opportunity of hepatitis B vaccination. We remain confident in the long term expansion of U. S. Speaker 300:06:09Hepatitis B vaccine market. In early 2022, when the ACIP universal recommendation went into effect, we provided 5 year guidance and we expect the HEPLISAV B market opportunity to be over $800,000,000 by 2027 with HEPLISAV B positioned to achieve a majority market share. We remain confident in that 5 year guidance and expect continued hepatitis B market expansion and HEPLISAV B market share gains through the end of the decade. Beyond 2,030, we expect the market to be substantial due to the continued penetration of the remaining large unvaccinated adult cohort. We look forward to providing more specific longer term guidance by the end of this year. Speaker 300:06:54In summary, we are reaffirming our confidence in the outlook for HEPLISAV B both for 2024 and long term. We expect HEPLISAV B to strengthen this position as a clear market share leader in the expanding hepatitis B vaccine market. We are very proud of our commercial team's success and are excited to help build on the momentum seen in Q2 for the remainder of 2024. I will now turn the call over to Rob to take you through our clinical pipeline. Speaker 400:07:23Thank you, Don. I'm excited by the progress we're making with our innovative vaccine pipeline, starting with our shingles vaccine program, Z1018. As a reminder, we believe there's an opportunity to develop an improved shingles vaccine given the challenging tolerability profile of the current market leading product. In the Q2, we initiated a randomized active controlled dose escalation multicenter Phase III trial to evaluate the safety, tolerability and immunogenicity of CD1018 compared to an active control in approximately 440 healthy adults aged 50 to 69 years. Key objectives of the trial include selecting the optimal glycoprotein E dose level and dosing schedule as well as adjuvant formulation for further clinical development. Speaker 400:08:15The Phase onetwo trial will be used to support validation of a patient reported outcome measurement tool to differentiate V1018 on tolerability and to support potential label claims. We anticipate reporting top line immunogenicity and safety data in the second half of twenty twenty five, including a comparison of CD4 positive T cells 1 month after the second of 2 vaccine doses. Turning next to TDAP-ten eighteen program. This is an investigational vaccine candidate intended for active booster immunization against tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis or Tdap. Current Tdap vaccines have limitations including waning effectiveness. Speaker 400:08:57And we believe there's an opportunity to improve the duration of protection using our CPG1018 adjuvant to generate a Th1 biased immune response. We're evaluating the persistence of TDAP-ten eighteen induced pertussis immunogenicity through a long term follow-up study of participants who completed a Phase 1 trial of a booster dose of Tdap1018 compared to an active control. The extension study will capture data for participants up to 3 years following initial vaccination. Results from the Phase 1 extension study are expected in the Q4 of 2024. These data will provide us with a view of how the TDAP-ten eighteen immune response over time compares to the active control and will help establish our views on the potential benefits that can be achieved with this vaccine candidate. Speaker 400:09:49For our plague vaccine program, which is in collaboration with and funded by the U. S. Department of Defense, we anticipate providing a program update based on results from both our Phase 2 clinical trial and the non human primate challenge study in the Q4 of 2024. We're also focused on addressing FDA comments regarding our SVLA for a HEPLISAV B hemodialysis dosing regimen. We intend to meet with the FDA in the second half of twenty twenty four as part of the standard regulatory process to discuss pathways to amend our SBLA with additional data to support potential approval of the 4 dose regimen. Speaker 400:10:31We're pleased with this progress across our pipeline and we look forward to executing on these upcoming milestones in the coming months. I'll now turn the call over to Kelly to review our financial results. Speaker 500:10:43Thank you, Rob. Before I get started, a reminder to please refer to our press release and Form 10 Q filed earlier today for more detailed financial information. I'll walk through the financial highlights for another strong quarter underscored by record HEPLISAV B net sales of $70,000,000 a 24% year over year increase and a 47% sequential increase compared to last quarter, putting us on track to achieve our guidance for the full year 2024. We believe this progress is a testament to the effectiveness of our overall brand plan and highlights the strength of our sales deal team combined with successful marketing campaigns across multiple channels including retail. HEPLISAV B gross margin improved to 83% in Q2 2024 from 76% in the prior year quarter. Speaker 500:11:35This margin expansion is consistent with our guidance of approximately 80% for the full year 2024 and the result of highly efficacious capital investments in our manufacturing process combined with improved scale over time. Other revenue was about $4,000,000 for the 2nd quarter, representing revenue related to the PLAY vaccine program in collaboration with and funded by the U. S. Department of Defense. Turning to our expenses. Speaker 500:12:02Research and development expenses were $15,000,000 for Q2 2024 compared to $13,000,000 for the prior year period with the increase reflecting important progress throughout our discovery, preclinical and clinical pipeline. Selling, general and administrative expenses for the Q2 of 2024 were $42,000,000 compared to approximately $37,000,000 for the prior year period. The increase was primarily driven by sales by our sales force expansion in the second half of twenty twenty three and other high ROI investments driving the growth of our HEPLISAV B franchise. Sublease income was $2,000,000 in the Q2 of 2024. And as a reminder from last quarter's call, we expect to record approximately $5,000,000 of net sublease income for the full year 2024. Speaker 500:12:53These results generated net income of $11,000,000 in the Q2 of 2024 compared to $3,000,000 during the prior year period. Moving to the balance sheet. We exited the Q2 of 2024 with cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities of approximately 7 $36,000,000 which was a $12,000,000 increase during Q2. We remain on track to achieve our cash guidance for the year and continue to believe that we have sufficient capital to prosecute our organic pipeline without the need to access the capital markets. Based on our strong execution year to date, we are also reiterating all of our full year 2024 financial guidance. Speaker 500:13:36For our full guidance framework, please consult our press release from earlier today. In closing, we are excited to report another strong quarter consisting of record quarterly revenue for HEPLISAV B, improved gross product gross margins and advancing pipeline and a very robust balance sheet. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Ryan for closing comments. Speaker 200:13:59Thanks, Kelly. I want to take a few moments to provide additional context and reflect on the progress we are making beyond the results from this quarter. I'm personally very proud of what this company has accomplished over the last few years and how that set us up to drive the next leg of growth. We've demonstrated exceptional execution commercializing HEPLISAV B and delivered a profitable brand with a long term growth profile, which provides a strong foundation for us to continue to build on. I'm proud of our team's success in a market that has long been dominated by big pharma. Speaker 200:14:32Beyond HEPLISAV B, we have managed stay both disciplined and agile, allowing us to respond to opportunities and manage our risk while advancing new products into the clinic. We've been actively evaluating strategic opportunities for growth, but remain committed to applying disciplined business judgment, avoiding any temptation to take action for the sake of the perception of progress. Beyond our financial position, we have built a high performing team focused on strategic leadership and professionalism. We believe this provides us the tools we need to grow our business and maximize our impact to benefit all of our stakeholders, including patients, investors and employees as we aim to position Dynavax as a leading infectious disease company. Thank you, everyone. Speaker 200:15:20Operator, we would now like to open the Q and A portion of today's call. Operator00:15:24Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question and answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Matthew Phipps at William Blair. Matthew, please go ahead. Your line is now open. Speaker 600:15:58Hi, thanks for taking my questions and giving us the update here across the HEP-seven programs. I was wondering maybe if you could give us a little bit of your expectations around market share maybe by the end of this year or when you think you will break that kind of 50% mark in market share? And then as we think about some of the seasonality throughout the rest of the year, Kelly, maybe you can help us on, should we assume a similar percentage of total year sales in Q3 and Q4 this year as we saw last year? And Kelly, we'll come back. Speaker 200:16:38Thanks, Matt. I'll take the first one on market share. Obviously, we don't provide guidance at that level of detail. So I'll just have Speaker 300:16:44to refer back to some Speaker 200:16:45of our general comments related to 2027 on the long term guide that we expect to have a majority share at that period in time, but we haven't provided any guidance on market share that's more refined than that. And as it relates to seasonality, Kelly, you want to take that one? Speaker 500:17:00Sure. Thanks for the warm welcome back, Matt. So as a reminder, we did reiterate our guidance, our net sales guidance the year between $265,000,000 to $280,000,000 With respect to the seasonality that we previously guided to and have sort of started to see throughout this year. We are still anticipating that Q4 contraction at the higher end of historical ranges, so in that 15%. I think last year we might have seen 15% to 20%. Speaker 500:17:27We are expecting that to come into the about 15% range this year. Again, that's sort of how we expect Q4 relative to Q3. So hopefully that's helpful. We do still, of course, expect Q3 to Speaker 200:17:40be a very strong quarter as well. Speaker 600:17:45Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 200:17:47Thanks, Alex. Thank you. Operator00:17:48Our next question comes from the line of Phil Nadeau from TD Cowen. Phil, your line is now open. Speaker 700:17:57Thanks for taking our questions. 1 commercial, 1 pipeline. On commercial, you reiterated your guidance for $800,000,000 market in a few years. Can you talk about the data points that are accumulating that continue to give you confidence in that market growth? I think for most of us, it's a little hard given the noise around contraction in the market some quarters and growth others. Speaker 700:18:19So what gives you confidence that all is on track to hit that ultimate market size? Speaker 200:18:26Yes. I'll make a couple of high level points and Don if you have any other details to add, please do. Don may you reminded us that back in 2022, we projected out the market to be $800,000,000 by 2027 based on our modeling of increasing coverage rates as a result of the ACIP universal recommendation. And we continue to reiterate that because we're tracking towards those projections as we've progressed over the last few years. Don, I don't know if you want to elaborate at all on. Speaker 300:18:57I mean the only additional color would be those rates that we kind of put into our forecast are kind of in line with other vaccines and so other vaccine analogs. So as Ryan mentioned, we see that occurring and that gives us the confidence to kind of reiterate that guidance long term. But again, looking at the market, looking at what happens with other vaccines, and we believe hepatitis B vaccination will follow that similar path. So Phil, Speaker 200:19:24I think the data points you can look at are 1, the historical size of the hep B market, and how it's grown since, 2022 recommendation along with, analog vaccine products that have recommendation changes. And you'll see in those products like TDAP for example or flu that you will have multiple years of progress made towards increasing vaccination coverage rates. Speaker 700:19:48Got it. Okay. Maybe actually one follow-up on commercial. There's a lot of controversy in the COVID vaccine and RSV vaccine space because of recent trends there. COVID has been a little disappointing. Speaker 700:19:59RSV obviously had the recent recommendation or not recommendation for annual vaccination. So seems to be some concern that those vaccines won't be as heavily utilized next season as they had in this past. How does that figure into your expectations for seasonality for HEPLISAV? Is it too early to tell? Or is there some reason to think maybe 2024 to 2025 that respiratory virus season won't be as impacted on HBV vaccines as the past? Speaker 200:20:31Yes. So a couple of comments on the landscape. 1, COVID remains still a very large product. So you're right, I think it could have some there's a comparison of expectation versus utilization, but it's still relatively highly utilized annually. And ROCE is going to be lower given that the lack of recommendation for annual boost. Speaker 200:20:53Those are both tailwinds for HEPLISAVR. Don, do you want to maybe just provide a little bit of color on, in particular, the retail pharmacy trends that we have seen or could see as we progress as it relates to PlusOne options? I think it Speaker 300:21:08boils down to that, Phil, and the fact that it provides more vaccination opportunity, quite frankly, for patients as they originate in the pharmacy this fall season into winter season. So again, to Ryan's point, it's a tailwind. It's an opportunity. Our retail partners see it as such. And so for hep B, it is an opportunity because again it provides additional origination vaccination opportunities this season and we factor that in as Speaker 200:21:38we think about this year and beyond. And to be clear, although RSV will be utilized less, that took an arm up is the point when someone originated for flu or COVID, now they have there's an opportunity to be a different vaccine to be administered. Correct. Speaker 700:21:54Got it. Okay. Last question on the pipeline. You mentioned C4 levels are going to be assessed in the Z1018 trial. Can you give us some sense of what you hope to see? Speaker 700:22:03What would you consider encouraging that will prompt further investment versus what would be discouraging in Dynavax's eyes? Speaker 400:22:12Sure. Rob, why don't you take that? Yes. What we're looking at we're looking at a number of different antigen levels in different combinations with adjuvants as well as different dosing regimens. And what we anticipate is identifying the best to move forward, which would be one that provides similar levels of CD4 accounts that we see with Shingrix. Speaker 700:22:36Got it. Thanks for taking our questions. Operator00:22:39Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Miller at Evercore. John, your line is now open. Speaker 800:22:47Yes. Thanks for taking my question. I guess one on market share here and I Speaker 100:22:54know you sort of talked about this Speaker 800:22:55a little bit, but what drives the next leg of market share here? Obviously, you've had good year on year growth for the past handful of quarters, but does feel like it's stable plus or minus a couple of percent and the comps will year on year comps get tougher going into second half here. So what drives the next level of HEPLISAV growth from here? Speaker 200:23:17Yes. So a couple of things. I'll hit it at the high level. Again, Don, if you want to add to it, please do. But we continue to have customers where we can expand utilization. Speaker 200:23:27So customers don't move as a block necessarily in the IND space. So you'll get the largest clinics and you can continue to expand there. I think the other element of this is a disproportionate share of growth. So we do believe HEPLISAV will continue to capture disproportionate share of the market expansion, which will also help overall market share. Don, can you hear us? Speaker 200:23:53Okay. Speaker 800:23:55Okay, sure. Then the other question I guess is, looks like from a gross margin perspective, you're more or less hitting your guidance this quarter. As I think quarter to quarter, how much noise is there in gross margin now that the big efforts to improve that over time are on board and you're reaching the realm you are hoping to get to? Sure. Speaker 500:24:21So we'll continue to see some minor fluctuations quarter to quarter and some variability quarter to quarter just because of timing of just manufacturing processes. But I think in terms of order of magnitude, what we've seen these last couple of quarters is probably what we can expect to see going forward, which is why we provided the 3.80 percent estimated gross margin for the year as our guidance. Speaker 800:24:48Great. And then maybe last one for me. Just more about the phrasing of how your some of your guidance reads. You're guiding for cash and equivalents at year end to be greater than it was at year end 2023. And I noticed you're not talking about cash flow, you're not talking about particular profitability numbers, it's specifically cash plus equivalents guidance. Speaker 800:25:14Does that imply that BD is less likely before the end of the calendar year? Speaker 200:25:20That guidance, John, just to be very clear is on our current existing business. Obviously, to the extent that we had significant deployment of capital for BD opportunity that would impact that guidance. Speaker 800:25:35Yes, makes sense. Thanks very much. Operator00:25:38Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Paul Choi from Goldman Sachs. Paul, your line is now open. Speaker 900:25:46Hi, good afternoon and thank you for taking our questions. My first question is also on the guidance and maybe directed to Kelly and Don. As you think about the guidance for the back half of the year, obviously, you've historically been weighted to 3Q versus 4Q. But I guess it seems like as we look at recent prescription trends through July, while up versus the tail end of 2Q, Seems like there's going to be a bit of a heavy lift to make the midpoint or upper end of your guidance. So I guess the question is, based on what you're seeing in the marketplace right now, are you more comfortable with the lower end of the guidance you provided versus the second, with regard to the PLAY program, I've seen you guys did mention that you'll get provide an update in 4Q. Speaker 900:26:37But assuming the data is positive there, can you maybe just remind us that if that triggers any milestone with regard to that program? And welcome back, Kelly, as well. Speaker 500:26:46Thank you. I'll take the first one and then Don will definitely layer in some details. But just as we think about guidance, I think we certainly believe that we have plenty of scenarios that will support the upper end of the range. So, we keep the guidance in terms of a range because there are uncertainties. So I think a couple of things that we're really excited about headed into Q3 and even Q4 have already been highlighted on this call. Speaker 500:27:10So for example, some of the retail pull through that we've seen, we continue to see that. We also have really strong response to our personal promotion. And then also, of course, some of the opportunities that was highlighted around the recent RSV recommendations, certainly that opens up an opportunity for us. Maybe I'll hand it over to Don to add any other color. Speaker 300:27:34Yes, Paul, just regarding looking into Q3, I mean, to just Kelly's point, we've said this already. We're excited what we see, especially within the retail pharmacy segment, actions and behaviors that are happening and occurring by our partners really save themselves up for a fairly robust back half of the year, taking advantage of opportunities and patient origination, as I mentioned before, with the RHC example. Infrastructure is in place, communications in place. And so that's why we feel very good about what we're going at, where we reaffirmed our guidance for 2024. Speaker 200:28:11And then Paul on the PLAY program, there's no defined milestone structure as it relates to that program. That is a it's a DoD funded program that would the upside value there would be in future product sales of either 10/18 or if we ended up being responsible for the whole product. So we'll provide an update on the program in Q4, which would include any future expectations around advancement and funding. Speaker 900:28:40Got it. Okay. Thanks for the clarity. Thank you very much. Operator00:28:43Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Roy Buchanan from JMP Securities. Roy, your line is now open. Speaker 1000:28:52Follow-up on a lot of the guidance questions. Just the longer term guidance that you mentioned providing later this year. Can you maybe talk a little give us a preview maybe of what that's going to look like? Is that 2030, 2,035, 2,040? Any granularity on when you might give us that guidance? Speaker 1000:29:12Yes. Thanks. Speaker 200:29:15Yes. Hi, Roy. As you heard in some of the qualitative statements we made today around a little bit of an indication of what we expect beyond 2027 with continued market growth and to continue market share, we are looking to be able to update longer term guidance to focus on providing color as to where we see the peak opportunity and then some context for the shape of the curve post peak. So we're refining that work right now, which is where we feel confident in continued growth beyond 27, and we'll refine that a little bit more and provide a bit more quantitative update later this year. Speaker 1000:29:58Okay, great. And then did anything change? I guess not, but or have you just seen enough data at this point to be able to be confident in making these longer term projections? Thanks. Speaker 200:30:08Well, it kind of goes back to the discussion we had earlier in the Q and A session the time and we think we need to continue to provide our view of the long term opportunity as we have additional information to influence it. So the last few years have provided us insight that we'd like to reflect in our long term guidance. Speaker 1000:30:35Makes sense. Thanks. Operator00:30:38We have no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Ryan Spencer, CEO, for closing remarks. You may begin. Speaker 200:30:47Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Dynavax. We are excited about our recent accomplishments and the strength of our position. We look forward to updating you on our progress focused on protecting the world against infectious diseases. Operator, you may end the call. Operator00:31:03Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us today. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect. 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Email Address About Dynavax TechnologiesDynavax Technologies (NASDAQ:DVAX), a commercial stage biopharmaceutical company, focuses on developing and commercializing vaccines in the United States. It markets HEPLISAV-B, a hepatitis B vaccine for prevention of infection caused by all known subtypes of hepatitis B virus in age 18 years and older in the United States and Europe. The company also manufactures and sells CpG 1018, the adjuvant used in HEPLISAV-B. Dynavax Technologies Corporation has a collaboration agreement with Valneva Scotland Limited; Zhejiang Clover Biopharmaceuticals, Inc.; Clover Biopharmaceuticals (Hong Kong) Co., Limited; Biological E. Limited; PT Bio Farma; Medigen Vaccine Biologics; and Serum Institute of India Pvt. Ltd. The company was formerly known as Double Helix Corporation and changed its name to Dynavax Technologies Corporation in September 1996. 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There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Dynavax Technologies Second Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. At the end of the company's prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions and provide specific participation instructions at that time. I would now like to turn the call over to Paul Vaux, Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:23Thank you for participating in today's call. Joining me from Dynavax are Ryan Spencer, Chief Executive Officer Don Casale, Chief Commercial Officer Rob Jansen, Chief Medical Officer and Kelly McDonnell, our Chief Financial Officer. Earlier today, Dynavax released financial results for the Q2 ended June 30, 2024. Copies of the press release and a supplementary slide presentation are available on Dynavax's website. Before we begin, I advise you that we will be making forward looking statements today based on our current expectations and beliefs, including but not limited to potential market sizes, market segmentation, effective marketing efforts, future expected market share and related growth rates and related ACIP recommendation impact on each financial guidance and trends, including revenue, profitability, cash flow and sufficiency of current capitalization, timing and results of FDA submissions, clinical trial starts and data readouts and potential future uses of or demand for our CPG1018 adjuvant. Speaker 100:01:31These statements involve risks and uncertainties and our actual results may differ materially. These risks are summarized in today's press release and detailed in the Risk Factors section of our SEC filings, including today's quarterly report on Form 10Q. Our forward looking statements speak as of today and we undertake no obligation to update such statements. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Ryan. Speaker 200:01:59Thanks, Paul. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us to review our Q2 2024 results. We've achieved another record quarter for HEPLISAV B net product sales as we strengthen our leadership position in the U. S. Adult hepatitis B vaccine market, notching continued year over year market share gains for the total market and in key market segments. Speaker 200:02:22Based on our strong results in Q2 and the continued strengthening of the hepatitis B vaccine market across Q2 and into early Q3, we are reaffirming our HEPLISAV B product revenue guidance for the full year 2024. Longer term, we are highly optimistic about the adult hepatitis B B vaccine market of over 130,000,000 eligible patients, which is one of the largest addressable patient populations for vaccines in the U. S. We expect the market opportunity for FLTEN B to grow to over $800,000,000 by 2027 with continued growth in both market share and market size through the end of the decade. We also anticipate long term demand for HEPLISAV beyond 2,030 as a result of the continued penetration of the unvaccinated adult cohort as well as expanding market share, providing a substantial long term revenue opportunity for HEPLISAV B. Speaker 200:03:16For our pipeline development, we are pleased to have recently initiated our Phase onetwo trial for our novel shingles vaccine program and remain excited for several upcoming milestones, including readouts from the shingle study as well as our TDAP and PLAY vaccine programs expected across 2024 2025. In addition to this progress and bolstered by our strong financial position, we continue to evaluate strategic opportunities to grow beyond our internal organic pipeline within the infectious disease space, which we believe would enable us to further diversify our product portfolio and create future commercial opportunities. We look forward to providing updates on these efforts in the future. I'll now turn the call over to Don and Rob, who will provide more details on HEPLISAV B results and our pipeline progress respectively before Kelly reviews our financial results for the Q2. Don? Speaker 300:04:12Thank you, Ryan. We are thrilled with the performance and record break in sales for HEPLISAV B in the Q2. HEPLISAV B achieved over $70,000,000 in net product revenue in the quarter supported by hepatitis B vaccine market growth and increases in HEPLISAV market share. During our last earnings call, we said that the hepatitis B vaccine market began to strengthen in early Q2 as the focus of healthcare providers and retail pharmacy shifted back to prioritizing non respiratory vaccines. That dynamic continue to play out throughout the quarter as customers reprioritized adoption of the ACIP universal recommendation to help protect their patients from hepatitis B. Speaker 300:04:53HEPLISAV B continued to increase its total U. S. Market share year over year, achieving an estimated 42% market share in the second quarter compared to 39% during the same period last year. HEPLISAV's strong performance continues to be driven by 2 critical segments, retail pharmacy and integrated delivery networks or IDN. In retail, HEPLISAV B's 2nd quarter estimated market share increased to approximately 59% compared to approximately 45% during the same period last year. Speaker 300:05:28For IDN, HEPLISAV B's estimated market share increased to approximately 56% compared to approximately 53% for Q2 last year. During the quarter, several top national retail chains and many large IDN systems established hepatitis B focused initiatives and campaigns to increase hepatitis B vaccination. We are encouraged by the focus and commitment of these customers and expect this momentum to continue into Q3 as healthcare providers continue to mobilize around the opportunity of hepatitis B vaccination. We remain confident in the long term expansion of U. S. Speaker 300:06:09Hepatitis B vaccine market. In early 2022, when the ACIP universal recommendation went into effect, we provided 5 year guidance and we expect the HEPLISAV B market opportunity to be over $800,000,000 by 2027 with HEPLISAV B positioned to achieve a majority market share. We remain confident in that 5 year guidance and expect continued hepatitis B market expansion and HEPLISAV B market share gains through the end of the decade. Beyond 2,030, we expect the market to be substantial due to the continued penetration of the remaining large unvaccinated adult cohort. We look forward to providing more specific longer term guidance by the end of this year. Speaker 300:06:54In summary, we are reaffirming our confidence in the outlook for HEPLISAV B both for 2024 and long term. We expect HEPLISAV B to strengthen this position as a clear market share leader in the expanding hepatitis B vaccine market. We are very proud of our commercial team's success and are excited to help build on the momentum seen in Q2 for the remainder of 2024. I will now turn the call over to Rob to take you through our clinical pipeline. Speaker 400:07:23Thank you, Don. I'm excited by the progress we're making with our innovative vaccine pipeline, starting with our shingles vaccine program, Z1018. As a reminder, we believe there's an opportunity to develop an improved shingles vaccine given the challenging tolerability profile of the current market leading product. In the Q2, we initiated a randomized active controlled dose escalation multicenter Phase III trial to evaluate the safety, tolerability and immunogenicity of CD1018 compared to an active control in approximately 440 healthy adults aged 50 to 69 years. Key objectives of the trial include selecting the optimal glycoprotein E dose level and dosing schedule as well as adjuvant formulation for further clinical development. Speaker 400:08:15The Phase onetwo trial will be used to support validation of a patient reported outcome measurement tool to differentiate V1018 on tolerability and to support potential label claims. We anticipate reporting top line immunogenicity and safety data in the second half of twenty twenty five, including a comparison of CD4 positive T cells 1 month after the second of 2 vaccine doses. Turning next to TDAP-ten eighteen program. This is an investigational vaccine candidate intended for active booster immunization against tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis or Tdap. Current Tdap vaccines have limitations including waning effectiveness. Speaker 400:08:57And we believe there's an opportunity to improve the duration of protection using our CPG1018 adjuvant to generate a Th1 biased immune response. We're evaluating the persistence of TDAP-ten eighteen induced pertussis immunogenicity through a long term follow-up study of participants who completed a Phase 1 trial of a booster dose of Tdap1018 compared to an active control. The extension study will capture data for participants up to 3 years following initial vaccination. Results from the Phase 1 extension study are expected in the Q4 of 2024. These data will provide us with a view of how the TDAP-ten eighteen immune response over time compares to the active control and will help establish our views on the potential benefits that can be achieved with this vaccine candidate. Speaker 400:09:49For our plague vaccine program, which is in collaboration with and funded by the U. S. Department of Defense, we anticipate providing a program update based on results from both our Phase 2 clinical trial and the non human primate challenge study in the Q4 of 2024. We're also focused on addressing FDA comments regarding our SVLA for a HEPLISAV B hemodialysis dosing regimen. We intend to meet with the FDA in the second half of twenty twenty four as part of the standard regulatory process to discuss pathways to amend our SBLA with additional data to support potential approval of the 4 dose regimen. Speaker 400:10:31We're pleased with this progress across our pipeline and we look forward to executing on these upcoming milestones in the coming months. I'll now turn the call over to Kelly to review our financial results. Speaker 500:10:43Thank you, Rob. Before I get started, a reminder to please refer to our press release and Form 10 Q filed earlier today for more detailed financial information. I'll walk through the financial highlights for another strong quarter underscored by record HEPLISAV B net sales of $70,000,000 a 24% year over year increase and a 47% sequential increase compared to last quarter, putting us on track to achieve our guidance for the full year 2024. We believe this progress is a testament to the effectiveness of our overall brand plan and highlights the strength of our sales deal team combined with successful marketing campaigns across multiple channels including retail. HEPLISAV B gross margin improved to 83% in Q2 2024 from 76% in the prior year quarter. Speaker 500:11:35This margin expansion is consistent with our guidance of approximately 80% for the full year 2024 and the result of highly efficacious capital investments in our manufacturing process combined with improved scale over time. Other revenue was about $4,000,000 for the 2nd quarter, representing revenue related to the PLAY vaccine program in collaboration with and funded by the U. S. Department of Defense. Turning to our expenses. Speaker 500:12:02Research and development expenses were $15,000,000 for Q2 2024 compared to $13,000,000 for the prior year period with the increase reflecting important progress throughout our discovery, preclinical and clinical pipeline. Selling, general and administrative expenses for the Q2 of 2024 were $42,000,000 compared to approximately $37,000,000 for the prior year period. The increase was primarily driven by sales by our sales force expansion in the second half of twenty twenty three and other high ROI investments driving the growth of our HEPLISAV B franchise. Sublease income was $2,000,000 in the Q2 of 2024. And as a reminder from last quarter's call, we expect to record approximately $5,000,000 of net sublease income for the full year 2024. Speaker 500:12:53These results generated net income of $11,000,000 in the Q2 of 2024 compared to $3,000,000 during the prior year period. Moving to the balance sheet. We exited the Q2 of 2024 with cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities of approximately 7 $36,000,000 which was a $12,000,000 increase during Q2. We remain on track to achieve our cash guidance for the year and continue to believe that we have sufficient capital to prosecute our organic pipeline without the need to access the capital markets. Based on our strong execution year to date, we are also reiterating all of our full year 2024 financial guidance. Speaker 500:13:36For our full guidance framework, please consult our press release from earlier today. In closing, we are excited to report another strong quarter consisting of record quarterly revenue for HEPLISAV B, improved gross product gross margins and advancing pipeline and a very robust balance sheet. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Ryan for closing comments. Speaker 200:13:59Thanks, Kelly. I want to take a few moments to provide additional context and reflect on the progress we are making beyond the results from this quarter. I'm personally very proud of what this company has accomplished over the last few years and how that set us up to drive the next leg of growth. We've demonstrated exceptional execution commercializing HEPLISAV B and delivered a profitable brand with a long term growth profile, which provides a strong foundation for us to continue to build on. I'm proud of our team's success in a market that has long been dominated by big pharma. Speaker 200:14:32Beyond HEPLISAV B, we have managed stay both disciplined and agile, allowing us to respond to opportunities and manage our risk while advancing new products into the clinic. We've been actively evaluating strategic opportunities for growth, but remain committed to applying disciplined business judgment, avoiding any temptation to take action for the sake of the perception of progress. Beyond our financial position, we have built a high performing team focused on strategic leadership and professionalism. We believe this provides us the tools we need to grow our business and maximize our impact to benefit all of our stakeholders, including patients, investors and employees as we aim to position Dynavax as a leading infectious disease company. Thank you, everyone. Speaker 200:15:20Operator, we would now like to open the Q and A portion of today's call. Operator00:15:24Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question and answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Matthew Phipps at William Blair. Matthew, please go ahead. Your line is now open. Speaker 600:15:58Hi, thanks for taking my questions and giving us the update here across the HEP-seven programs. I was wondering maybe if you could give us a little bit of your expectations around market share maybe by the end of this year or when you think you will break that kind of 50% mark in market share? And then as we think about some of the seasonality throughout the rest of the year, Kelly, maybe you can help us on, should we assume a similar percentage of total year sales in Q3 and Q4 this year as we saw last year? And Kelly, we'll come back. Speaker 200:16:38Thanks, Matt. I'll take the first one on market share. Obviously, we don't provide guidance at that level of detail. So I'll just have Speaker 300:16:44to refer back to some Speaker 200:16:45of our general comments related to 2027 on the long term guide that we expect to have a majority share at that period in time, but we haven't provided any guidance on market share that's more refined than that. And as it relates to seasonality, Kelly, you want to take that one? Speaker 500:17:00Sure. Thanks for the warm welcome back, Matt. So as a reminder, we did reiterate our guidance, our net sales guidance the year between $265,000,000 to $280,000,000 With respect to the seasonality that we previously guided to and have sort of started to see throughout this year. We are still anticipating that Q4 contraction at the higher end of historical ranges, so in that 15%. I think last year we might have seen 15% to 20%. Speaker 500:17:27We are expecting that to come into the about 15% range this year. Again, that's sort of how we expect Q4 relative to Q3. So hopefully that's helpful. We do still, of course, expect Q3 to Speaker 200:17:40be a very strong quarter as well. Speaker 600:17:45Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 200:17:47Thanks, Alex. Thank you. Operator00:17:48Our next question comes from the line of Phil Nadeau from TD Cowen. Phil, your line is now open. Speaker 700:17:57Thanks for taking our questions. 1 commercial, 1 pipeline. On commercial, you reiterated your guidance for $800,000,000 market in a few years. Can you talk about the data points that are accumulating that continue to give you confidence in that market growth? I think for most of us, it's a little hard given the noise around contraction in the market some quarters and growth others. Speaker 700:18:19So what gives you confidence that all is on track to hit that ultimate market size? Speaker 200:18:26Yes. I'll make a couple of high level points and Don if you have any other details to add, please do. Don may you reminded us that back in 2022, we projected out the market to be $800,000,000 by 2027 based on our modeling of increasing coverage rates as a result of the ACIP universal recommendation. And we continue to reiterate that because we're tracking towards those projections as we've progressed over the last few years. Don, I don't know if you want to elaborate at all on. Speaker 300:18:57I mean the only additional color would be those rates that we kind of put into our forecast are kind of in line with other vaccines and so other vaccine analogs. So as Ryan mentioned, we see that occurring and that gives us the confidence to kind of reiterate that guidance long term. But again, looking at the market, looking at what happens with other vaccines, and we believe hepatitis B vaccination will follow that similar path. So Phil, Speaker 200:19:24I think the data points you can look at are 1, the historical size of the hep B market, and how it's grown since, 2022 recommendation along with, analog vaccine products that have recommendation changes. And you'll see in those products like TDAP for example or flu that you will have multiple years of progress made towards increasing vaccination coverage rates. Speaker 700:19:48Got it. Okay. Maybe actually one follow-up on commercial. There's a lot of controversy in the COVID vaccine and RSV vaccine space because of recent trends there. COVID has been a little disappointing. Speaker 700:19:59RSV obviously had the recent recommendation or not recommendation for annual vaccination. So seems to be some concern that those vaccines won't be as heavily utilized next season as they had in this past. How does that figure into your expectations for seasonality for HEPLISAV? Is it too early to tell? Or is there some reason to think maybe 2024 to 2025 that respiratory virus season won't be as impacted on HBV vaccines as the past? Speaker 200:20:31Yes. So a couple of comments on the landscape. 1, COVID remains still a very large product. So you're right, I think it could have some there's a comparison of expectation versus utilization, but it's still relatively highly utilized annually. And ROCE is going to be lower given that the lack of recommendation for annual boost. Speaker 200:20:53Those are both tailwinds for HEPLISAVR. Don, do you want to maybe just provide a little bit of color on, in particular, the retail pharmacy trends that we have seen or could see as we progress as it relates to PlusOne options? I think it Speaker 300:21:08boils down to that, Phil, and the fact that it provides more vaccination opportunity, quite frankly, for patients as they originate in the pharmacy this fall season into winter season. So again, to Ryan's point, it's a tailwind. It's an opportunity. Our retail partners see it as such. And so for hep B, it is an opportunity because again it provides additional origination vaccination opportunities this season and we factor that in as Speaker 200:21:38we think about this year and beyond. And to be clear, although RSV will be utilized less, that took an arm up is the point when someone originated for flu or COVID, now they have there's an opportunity to be a different vaccine to be administered. Correct. Speaker 700:21:54Got it. Okay. Last question on the pipeline. You mentioned C4 levels are going to be assessed in the Z1018 trial. Can you give us some sense of what you hope to see? Speaker 700:22:03What would you consider encouraging that will prompt further investment versus what would be discouraging in Dynavax's eyes? Speaker 400:22:12Sure. Rob, why don't you take that? Yes. What we're looking at we're looking at a number of different antigen levels in different combinations with adjuvants as well as different dosing regimens. And what we anticipate is identifying the best to move forward, which would be one that provides similar levels of CD4 accounts that we see with Shingrix. Speaker 700:22:36Got it. Thanks for taking our questions. Operator00:22:39Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Miller at Evercore. John, your line is now open. Speaker 800:22:47Yes. Thanks for taking my question. I guess one on market share here and I Speaker 100:22:54know you sort of talked about this Speaker 800:22:55a little bit, but what drives the next leg of market share here? Obviously, you've had good year on year growth for the past handful of quarters, but does feel like it's stable plus or minus a couple of percent and the comps will year on year comps get tougher going into second half here. So what drives the next level of HEPLISAV growth from here? Speaker 200:23:17Yes. So a couple of things. I'll hit it at the high level. Again, Don, if you want to add to it, please do. But we continue to have customers where we can expand utilization. Speaker 200:23:27So customers don't move as a block necessarily in the IND space. So you'll get the largest clinics and you can continue to expand there. I think the other element of this is a disproportionate share of growth. So we do believe HEPLISAV will continue to capture disproportionate share of the market expansion, which will also help overall market share. Don, can you hear us? Speaker 200:23:53Okay. Speaker 800:23:55Okay, sure. Then the other question I guess is, looks like from a gross margin perspective, you're more or less hitting your guidance this quarter. As I think quarter to quarter, how much noise is there in gross margin now that the big efforts to improve that over time are on board and you're reaching the realm you are hoping to get to? Sure. Speaker 500:24:21So we'll continue to see some minor fluctuations quarter to quarter and some variability quarter to quarter just because of timing of just manufacturing processes. But I think in terms of order of magnitude, what we've seen these last couple of quarters is probably what we can expect to see going forward, which is why we provided the 3.80 percent estimated gross margin for the year as our guidance. Speaker 800:24:48Great. And then maybe last one for me. Just more about the phrasing of how your some of your guidance reads. You're guiding for cash and equivalents at year end to be greater than it was at year end 2023. And I noticed you're not talking about cash flow, you're not talking about particular profitability numbers, it's specifically cash plus equivalents guidance. Speaker 800:25:14Does that imply that BD is less likely before the end of the calendar year? Speaker 200:25:20That guidance, John, just to be very clear is on our current existing business. Obviously, to the extent that we had significant deployment of capital for BD opportunity that would impact that guidance. Speaker 800:25:35Yes, makes sense. Thanks very much. Operator00:25:38Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Paul Choi from Goldman Sachs. Paul, your line is now open. Speaker 900:25:46Hi, good afternoon and thank you for taking our questions. My first question is also on the guidance and maybe directed to Kelly and Don. As you think about the guidance for the back half of the year, obviously, you've historically been weighted to 3Q versus 4Q. But I guess it seems like as we look at recent prescription trends through July, while up versus the tail end of 2Q, Seems like there's going to be a bit of a heavy lift to make the midpoint or upper end of your guidance. So I guess the question is, based on what you're seeing in the marketplace right now, are you more comfortable with the lower end of the guidance you provided versus the second, with regard to the PLAY program, I've seen you guys did mention that you'll get provide an update in 4Q. Speaker 900:26:37But assuming the data is positive there, can you maybe just remind us that if that triggers any milestone with regard to that program? And welcome back, Kelly, as well. Speaker 500:26:46Thank you. I'll take the first one and then Don will definitely layer in some details. But just as we think about guidance, I think we certainly believe that we have plenty of scenarios that will support the upper end of the range. So, we keep the guidance in terms of a range because there are uncertainties. So I think a couple of things that we're really excited about headed into Q3 and even Q4 have already been highlighted on this call. Speaker 500:27:10So for example, some of the retail pull through that we've seen, we continue to see that. We also have really strong response to our personal promotion. And then also, of course, some of the opportunities that was highlighted around the recent RSV recommendations, certainly that opens up an opportunity for us. Maybe I'll hand it over to Don to add any other color. Speaker 300:27:34Yes, Paul, just regarding looking into Q3, I mean, to just Kelly's point, we've said this already. We're excited what we see, especially within the retail pharmacy segment, actions and behaviors that are happening and occurring by our partners really save themselves up for a fairly robust back half of the year, taking advantage of opportunities and patient origination, as I mentioned before, with the RHC example. Infrastructure is in place, communications in place. And so that's why we feel very good about what we're going at, where we reaffirmed our guidance for 2024. Speaker 200:28:11And then Paul on the PLAY program, there's no defined milestone structure as it relates to that program. That is a it's a DoD funded program that would the upside value there would be in future product sales of either 10/18 or if we ended up being responsible for the whole product. So we'll provide an update on the program in Q4, which would include any future expectations around advancement and funding. Speaker 900:28:40Got it. Okay. Thanks for the clarity. Thank you very much. Operator00:28:43Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Roy Buchanan from JMP Securities. Roy, your line is now open. Speaker 1000:28:52Follow-up on a lot of the guidance questions. Just the longer term guidance that you mentioned providing later this year. Can you maybe talk a little give us a preview maybe of what that's going to look like? Is that 2030, 2,035, 2,040? Any granularity on when you might give us that guidance? Speaker 1000:29:12Yes. Thanks. Speaker 200:29:15Yes. Hi, Roy. As you heard in some of the qualitative statements we made today around a little bit of an indication of what we expect beyond 2027 with continued market growth and to continue market share, we are looking to be able to update longer term guidance to focus on providing color as to where we see the peak opportunity and then some context for the shape of the curve post peak. So we're refining that work right now, which is where we feel confident in continued growth beyond 27, and we'll refine that a little bit more and provide a bit more quantitative update later this year. Speaker 1000:29:58Okay, great. And then did anything change? I guess not, but or have you just seen enough data at this point to be able to be confident in making these longer term projections? Thanks. Speaker 200:30:08Well, it kind of goes back to the discussion we had earlier in the Q and A session the time and we think we need to continue to provide our view of the long term opportunity as we have additional information to influence it. So the last few years have provided us insight that we'd like to reflect in our long term guidance. Speaker 1000:30:35Makes sense. Thanks. Operator00:30:38We have no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Ryan Spencer, CEO, for closing remarks. You may begin. Speaker 200:30:47Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Dynavax. We are excited about our recent accomplishments and the strength of our position. We look forward to updating you on our progress focused on protecting the world against infectious diseases. Operator, you may end the call. Operator00:31:03Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us today. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect. Speaker 500:31:09Goodbye.Read morePowered by