NASDAQ:JAMF Jamf Q2 2024 Earnings Report $11.57 0.00 (0.00%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$11.56 -0.01 (-0.09%) As of 04:20 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Jamf EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.14Consensus EPS $0.14Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPS-$0.19Jamf Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$153.02 millionExpected Revenue$151.66 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.36 millionYoY Revenue Growth+13.30%Jamf Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/7/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, August 7, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsJamf's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Company ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Jamf Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 7, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00session. As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. Operator00:00:03And now I'd like to introduce Jennifer Gamon. Speaker 100:00:07Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss JAMP's Q2 2024 financial results. With me on today's call are John Stroessl, Chief Executive Officer and Ian Goodkind, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that shortly after the market closed today, we issued a press release announcing our second quarter financial results. We also published a Q2 earnings presentation, investor presentation and Excel file containing quarterly financial statements to assist you with modeling. You may access this information on the Investor Relations section of jamf.com. Speaker 100:00:40Today's discussion includes forward looking statements. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forecast. For more details, please refer to the risk factors and other information discussed in our most recent SEC reports, including our most recent Annual Report on Form 10 ks. JAMFA assumes no obligation to update forward looking statements, which speak only as of the date they are made. I would also like to remind you that during the call, we will discuss some non GAAP measures related to Jamf's performance. Speaker 100:01:11You can find a reconciliation of those measures to the nearest comparable GAAP measures in our earnings release. Additionally, to ensure we can address as many analyst questions as possible during the call, we ask that you please limit your questions to one initial question and one follow-up. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to John Strozzle. John? Speaker 200:01:29Thanks, Jen. In Q2, we continued to deliver on the expectations we set for 2024. Q2 revenue and non GAAP operating income again exceeded the high end of our outlook. Q2 year over year revenue growth was 13% and non GAAP operating income was $23,500,000 representing a non GAAP operating income margin of 15%. This margin represents more than 1,000 basis points improvement from Q2 of 2023. Speaker 200:02:00At the end of Q2, ARR grew 13% year over year to $621,700,000 We ended Q2 with 33,600,000 devices on our platform and 76,600 customers. Of these customers, 41% run both a Jamf Management and Security product. Security ARR grew 27% to $145,000,000 representing 23% of Jamf's total ARR. We continue to see strength across a diverse group of industries, while the tech and K-twelve industries continue to see softness related to device expansion. We're seeing great traction in industries where technology adoption has lagged historically through our platform's ability to deliver unique workflows for purpose based devices, which we refer to as deskless. Speaker 200:02:53We're also encouraged by the 2 consecutive quarters of PC shipment growth after 2 years of declines. IDC estimates Q2 year over year worldwide PC shipment growth of 3%, with Apple experiencing the highest year over year growth in shipments of any manufacturer at nearly 21%, gaining market share. As a reminder, our outlook for 2024 does not rely on significant uplift in device expansion. Before we cover some of our customer successes in Q2, I'd like to touch on some exciting updates coming out of Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference. At the June event, Apple unveiled a suite of updates across its platform, while reiterating their focus on privacy, user experience and seamless integration within its ecosystem. Speaker 200:03:41Apple continues to innovate to help organizations embrace Apple Devices as their secure and stable endpoint of choice. This includes further improvements to manage OS software updates, enhanced phishing resistant identity provider integrations, 0 touch deployment for VisionPro and hardening of managed device attestation by leveraging Apple Silicone Chipsets. Combined, Apple continues to demonstrate their commitment to winning over IT and security teams alike with their endpoint platform. Jamf is fully committed to helping organizations realize all of these capabilities through Jamf's comprehensive platform of software and enterprise integration. Apple also introduced their take on generative large language models through their implementation of Apple Intelligence. Speaker 200:04:29Apple Intelligence is unique in the AI space and that Apple maintains their privacy and security model not only through on device techniques, but also through leveraging a revolutionary innovation in cloud computing, which is Apple Private Cloud Compute. This new combined model provides cloud scale computing power to pick up processing where the device leaves off, all in an auditable privacy first implementation. These capabilities are incredibly powerful and will benefit users as protecting sensitive or confidential data makes device security even more important now than ever. Jamf remains committed to helping organizations realize the best that Apple has to offer on their device beyond traditional device management. As Apple continues to innovate, Jamf provides the tools and expertise necessary to harness these advancements, optimizing the benefit to businesses globally. Speaker 200:05:25We have a number of exciting announcements planned for our Jamf Nation user conference in October to demonstrate our commitment. As we like to say at Jamf, when Apple innovates, Jamf celebrates. For the remainder of my remarks, I'd like to use the strategic growth drivers we discussed during our Investor Day, Mac leadership, mobile expansion, management plus security and international expansion to highlight some of our successes we saw in Q2. In Mac leadership, we continue to see customers choose Mac along with Jamf Pro to meet the needs of highly technical development organizations, like a U. S.-based strategic technology company focused on developing augmented reality software. Speaker 200:06:09This customer chose Jamf to manage their global fleet of Mac. Key to this win was the ease with which Jamf Pro can help safely and efficiently deploy applications across the organization with little to no impact to end users. Efficiency and ultimately end user productivity were also key reasons a leading private sector bank in India decided to make the move to JAMF. The bank was experiencing extensive delays in deployment and configuration with their legacy vendor. Our team was able to demonstrate a number of efficiencies through a pilot period for senior leaders of the bank. Speaker 200:06:45This investment in JAMF licenses underscores the bank's commitment to leveraging cutting edge technology to enhance operational efficiency and security. And Jamf's technology continues to be recognized in the industry. Recently, Jamf was named a leader in the IDC Marketscape Worldwide UEM Software for Apple Devices 20 24 Vendor Assessment, a testament to our leadership in managing and securing Apple at Work. Our second strategic growth driver, expanding with mobile, was particularly strong in Q2 with the 2 largest deals of the quarter having a large mobile component. First is one of the top 10 largest school districts in the U. Speaker 200:07:26S. The district recently hired a new CSO who is interested in stronger security for district Mac devices. Jamf was able to demonstrate our strong security features and expand the conversation to Jamf Connect as well as Jamf Pro for iOS. This key win displays a well entrenched incumbent provider for a significant number of devices, both Mac and iOS over a 5 year term. As I mentioned earlier in my remarks, Jamf's deskless workflows for mobile continue to provide unique solutions for countless industry use cases, representing a large growth opportunity within mobile. Speaker 200:08:03Ipads as point of sale devices and pilot flight bags, Apple Watch for driver tracking and baggage handling, and Vision Pro for medical use cases are just a few. In all cases, these devices need to be managed and secured within their organization's environment. Additionally, in Q2, one of our lighthouse customers in the telecom space expanded with Jamf beyond Mac, adding a significant number of seats of Jamf Pro and Jamf Connect for iOS across thousands of retail locations, representing the 2nd of the largest deals in Q2. This is an incredible competitive win for Jamf against the legacy UEM that reflects not only expanding with mobile, but also Jamf's ability to deliver both management and security at scale. This ability to deliver both management and security on one platform is a key differentiator for Jamf, providing a unified experience for users and driving customers to consider moving away from Windows to Apple. Speaker 200:09:03The number of deals we see with both a management and a security component continues to grow. In Q2, 16 of our top 20 deals included a security component. These deals include both new customers and our management customers expanding into security. Currently, approximately 40% of our new customer commercial pipeline is made up of a security opportunity similar to Q1. Another example of our success with both management and security are what we refer to as delivering our Trusted Access vision is a leading airline in India who has embraced Trusted Access for their Mac devices. Speaker 200:09:42JAMF's holistic approach with Trusted Access allowing the airline to see the benefits of our platform capabilities and building a strong relationship with the CISO were what ultimately secured this competitive win. And last, international expansion. As we laid out at our Investor Day, we continue to invest in strategic geographies with growing adoption of Apple. In addition to the 2 deals I've already mentioned in India, an area where Apple and Jamf are expanding rapidly, we continue to see the strength in more mature international markets like Western Europe and Japan. In Q2, a Western European government agency expanded with Jamf, almost doubling their fleet. Speaker 200:10:22Jamf is now the primary threat defense and secure remote access partner for the agency's iPhone fleet with Jamf Connect and Jamf Protect. Key aspects of this win were tied to the strength of our technology from the superior experience of ZTNA with Jamf Connect to our ability to demonstrate the power of Jamf Protect with Myriam, our AI and machine learning engine for mobile threat prevention. On average, over a 1 month period, Merriam evaluated nearly 320,000 domains and identified nearly 50,000 zero day phishing attacks. I'll now turn it over to Ian to review our Q2 results and provide our Q3 and 2024 outlook. Speaker 300:11:04Thanks, John. Q2 year over year revenue growth was 13% exceeding the high end of our revenue outlook. SaaS recurring revenue remained strong 15%. Less strategic revenue sources like license, services and on premise revenues continue to experience year over year decline. We ended Q2 with total ARR of $621,700,000 representing year over year growth of 13% exceeding expectations. Speaker 300:11:35JAMF Commercial ARR was 74% of JAMF's total ARR and security ARR was 23% of total ARR. JAMF's commercial business remains the main driver of JAMF's ARR and we expect this to continue over time. Our net retention rate decreased slightly as expected to 106% in Q2 when compared to Q1. The remainder of my remarks on margins, expense items and profitability will be on a non GAAP basis. Our GAAP financial results along with a reconciliation between GAAP and non GAAP are found in the earnings release. Speaker 300:12:13Q2 non GAAP gross profit margin was 82%, a slight uptick from Q1 and within our expectation. We continue to expect gross margins in the low 80% range and expect slight fluctuations each quarter. Non GAAP operating income exceeded the high end of our Q2 outlook by $1,000,000 to $23,500,000 or 15% margin due to cost saving initiatives and increased revenues, representing more than 1,000 basis point improvement over Q2 2023. Our trailing 12 month unlevered free cash flow margin was 14% compared to 13% in the prior year. Our effective tax rate for Q2 was negative 7.6%, consistent with our expectations. Speaker 300:13:01As a reminder, for non GAAP metrics, we use our domestic statutory rate for calculating tax impact, which is currently 24%. Please note that we pay a nominal amount of cash taxes. During our Investor Day, we outlined some key milestones that will help you track our progress against our goals in 2024. 1, meet our quarterly financial outlook. In Q2, we exceeded the high end of both our revenue and non GAAP operating income guidance ranges 2, achieve at least 25% growth in security ARR. Speaker 300:13:35Q2 year over year growth of security ARR was 27%. 3, decreased general and administrative expense as a percent of total revenue. Q2 non GAAP G and A margin was 14% similar to Q1, an approximately 100 basis point improvement from Q4 2023. 4, decreased sales and marketing expense as a percent of total revenue. Q2 non GAAP sales and marketing margin was 34%, similar to Q1, an approximately 200 basis point improvement from Q4 2023. Speaker 300:14:12Now turning to our outlook for Q3 and full year 2024. For revenue growth, we continue to expect softness in device upsell through the remainder of 2024. We will continue to drive new logo and cross sell in the areas John highlighted. We continue to make investments in scalability and efficiency to drive future growth and margin expansion. We're focused on scaling our go to market organization, optimizing our platform and automating back office processes. Speaker 300:14:41We reached a key milestone related to these initiatives earlier this month when we went live with a comprehensive systems update to enhance both the customer and partner experience. And later this month, we'll launch JAMF's new partner program. The new program includes enhancements to partner management capabilities and incentive structures with the goal of empowering our partners with the tools and insights needed to expand with Jamf. Scalability initiatives like these will set Jamf up for profitable growth in the future and return Jamf to the rule of 40 as outlined at our Investor Day. Based on these factors, for the Q3 of 2024, we expect total revenue of $156,500,000 to $158,500,000 representing year over year growth of 10% to 11%. Speaker 300:15:35Non GAAP operating income of $25,500,000 to 26 point $5,000,000 representing non GAAP operating income margin of 16.5% at the midpoint. Additionally, this year's Jamf Nation user conference falls in Q4 instead of Q3 impacting Q4 expenses. For the full year 2024, given our continued strong performance in Q2, we are increasing our expectations. Total revenue of 6 $122,500,000 to $625,500,000 representing year over year growth of 11% at the midpoint. This reflects an increase of $3,500,000 at the midpoint. Speaker 300:16:19Non GAAP operating income of 96 $1,000,000 to $98,000,000 representing a non GAAP operating income margin of 15.5 percent at the midpoint and an approximately 7 40 basis point improvement over fiscal year 2023. This reflects an increase of $3,000,000 at the midpoint. While we don't provide an outlook for ARR, we suggest modeling full year 2024 ARR growth similar to full year revenue growth. With respect to unlevered free cash flows for full year 2024, we expect unlevered free cash flow margin to be similar to non GAAP operating income margin. We also provide estimates for amortization, stock based compensation related payroll taxes and other metrics to assist with modeling in the earnings presentation as part of the webcast and also posted on our Investor Relations website. Speaker 300:17:15With respect to the longer term financial outlook we presented as part of our Investor Day, we remain committed to the goals we outlined during the event. And last, we will be hosting an in person product session for investors during the Champ Nation user conference in Nashville in early October, led by our Chief Innovation Officer, Jason Woody. An invitation with details will be sent out next week. Now, John and I will take your questions. Operator? Operator00:17:46Certainly. And our first question for today comes from the line of Rob Owens from Piper Sandler. Your question please. Speaker 400:17:55Great. Thank you so much for taking my question. I would like to drill down into some of the verticals like K-twelve and Tech that remain challenging And just what you're seeing on that front, any signs of stabilization or potential green shoots of growth? I guess noting that the installed base of devices in K-twelve is probably aging at this point to the extent that maybe there's a refresh coming. Speaker 200:18:22Yes, Rob, thanks for your question. This is John and Ian can add some color on this. When we think about the education market, we still are awaiting a refresh cycle there. We're working with some of our larger customers. We did note in our prepared remarks one of our largest wins in Q2 was an education customer. Speaker 200:18:43That's a new logo to us. And we are working with our existing customers on that refresh cycle. We haven't seen them yet, but we are in discussions about them. So we know it's coming. We just don't know exactly when it's coming, but we're working with them on that. Speaker 300:18:56I would just add to Rob, the things that we think could accelerate the education market or things where we look for that refresh We are encouraged also by our security products, Jamshed Internet and their education bundles. And lastly, from deals that we see outside the U. S. And we think those are opportunities for that market and for our growth rates to increase in that market. I think you asked a little bit on tech too. Speaker 300:19:21There we've continued to see what we've seen. But when we look at that and we've been just staring at different ways looking at our net retention, we're starting to just see signs continued signs of stabilization. And that's encouraging for us when you look at our SMB, for example, we've seen stabilization within that NRR. And I think that bodes well for us in the future. And we're just we're not calling about them, but we're just seeing those signs of stabilization. Speaker 400:19:50Great. And then you mentioned security. Would love to drill down a little bit more. Obviously, you guys are executing on that opportunity and gave us a disclosure of management and security customers. Can you remind us if a customer takes both, what's that typically do to deal size versus them taking one or the other? Speaker 400:20:06I guess I'm really trying to extract what that security upsell looks like. Speaker 300:20:10Yes. A couple of data points I'd give you there. First, at our Investor Day, what we had shared is that if you took everyone that was on Pro today or Pro and Connect or Pro and Protect and you move them to business plan at today's ASPs, that was about Speaker 500:20:25a $350,000,000 Speaker 300:20:27opportunity. One other way to think about it is just to look at our prices on those different products. So when you take Jamf Pro, think of Jamf Connect as a 50% uplift and Jamf Protect as a 75% uplift. And then even business plan is, call it, almost double of what Pro would be. Speaker 400:20:48Great. Thank you, guys. Operator00:20:51Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Joshua Riley from Needham. Your question please. Speaker 500:21:01Yes. Thanks for taking my questions and I would echo the nice job on the quarter here. Wanted to get your thoughts on the progress you're seeing in cross selling iOS security and management to existing Mac customers and whether that's being reflected in Jamf Business Plan or just multi device sales. I think you highlighted a couple of examples there, but are you seeing greater adoption of management and security for iOS devices in commercial markets? Speaker 200:21:32Yes, Josh, John here. I'll start the commentary on, we've had really good success when we've spoken about before, when we bundle those products together, not only do we have better retention, we also have better upsell. So our customers are really it's really resonating with our customers, the management and security together are really two sides of the same coin and you can find out something's wrong and you can actually remediate that through the management capability. 2 of our largest deals for the quarter that we mentioned in the prepared remarks both had a significant mobile component. And so that again is testament to those customers and new customers taking on both the management and security side of the product capabilities. Speaker 500:22:20Got it. And then as we look at the guidance here for Q3, and I just wanted to get your guys' thoughts around the pipeline as we are kind of entering the seasonally strong period for commercial markets. Do you think that the visibility is the same as quarter or 2 quarters ago? Or do you think it's improving? How would you just kind of characterize your view into your own internal business? Speaker 500:22:41Thanks, guys. Speaker 200:22:44Yes. Yes, Josh, John again here. It's pretty similar to what it's been. I mean, we're as Ian said, we're seeing some stabilization. We've gotten some good conversations with prospective customers and existing customers alike as they look to expand. Speaker 200:23:00So it's about similar to it has been before and pretty stable. Speaker 500:23:06Got it. Thanks guys. Operator00:23:09Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Matt Hettenberg from RBC. Your question please. Speaker 600:23:18Great. Good afternoon guys. John, I think you said the word stable a whole bunch of times, which is really good to hear in this macro environment. I'm sort of hearing, recognizing that we typically have back end loaded quarters, was the linearity pretty consistent to what you would expect into Q2? And I guess, have things in July trended kind of similar to what you saw in June? Speaker 600:23:42In other words, like does that stability also kind of made its way into Q3? Speaker 200:23:48Yes. Thanks, Matt. We have seen some stabilization and we've said it a bunch of times because that's what we're seeing. We tend to see quarters more back end loaded, how it's typically been and then that's happened for the last few years. Customers, they'll learn to buy this way, right? Speaker 200:24:07They negotiate up until the end of the quarter. So that's been pretty similar in the 1st 2 quarters of this year as we've seen in the past. We're not seeing a significant difference in that pattern. Speaker 600:24:18Got it. Thanks for that. And then as it's also good to hear the PCs are finally growing again, Speaker 700:24:27but you haven't baked that Speaker 600:24:28into guidance. I guess, on the broader topic of partners, which is a big part of your Analyst Day, could you talk about the importance of that Day, could you talk about the importance of that sort of the partner distribution channel into the back half this year? And as we think about acceleration, how meaningful could ramping partner contributions be in that accelerating story? Speaker 200:24:48Yes, significant. I mean, we've really focused on this and we talked about this at our Investor Day, how we've leaned into getting more efficiency from our go to market organization and our sales productivity. A lot of that is through leveraging the partners that we have. And particularly in the U. S, we've tended to leverage partners more heavily outside the U. Speaker 200:25:10S. And now we're really leaning into that in the U. S. As well. Some of the technology infrastructure advancements that we spoke about before as well, We're well into implementing those, which will provide us with partner portals, for example. Speaker 200:25:25Partners can come in. We don't have to have a Jamf person touch that, partners can actually generate their own quotes independently. All of these things will help us quite a bit on the partner side. In addition to rolling out a new partner program, that will leverage that partner portal heavily and the compensation to the partners that go along with that. Speaker 400:25:48Really good to hear. Best of luck guys. Operator00:25:51Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Gregg Moskowitz from Mizuho. Your question please. Speaker 800:26:01Okay. Thank you very much for taking the question. Good afternoon guys. So on the security side, we're continuing to see very nice growth overall. Although from a net new security AR perspective, at least for Q2, it looks like the net new dollars that were added were a little bit lower than what we've seen in the prior couple of Q2 periods. Speaker 800:26:25And I just wanted to ask if there were any nuances to be aware of or anything else that you would call out? Speaker 300:26:30Yes. Hey, Greg, it's Ian. I'll take that one. So yes, when you compare to Q2 last year, if you were on the clock, we talked about a significant enterprise deal that we had, and they were lapping in Q2. We did add approximately $7,000,000 just shy of that here within the quarter, which has been a similar run rate to, let's say, Q3 last year and other periods. Speaker 300:26:52So it actually was a real good quarter. We saw a security component in 2016 of our top 20 deals. So we do see a lot of good traction there, and we do believe that traction will continue. I think the one other interesting comment here I'd make on it is that we've seen it on the mobile side too. I think 7 of our top 10 deals had an iOS component and those have security with it too. Speaker 300:27:15And so we're just seeing traction in those areas that we mentioned at Investor Day with commercial security, the mobile and education security. Those are where we said that cross sell will start to have an impact and start to drive growth as we go forward. Speaker 800:27:31That's really helpful, Ian. Thanks for that. And then for John, you had previously spoken, thinking back to last quarter about particularly aggressive pricing from one of your competitors in the earlier part of Q1. I'm assuming that that activity has ceased. I know it sort of stopped fairly early on in the Q1, but I would love to hear any commentary on the overall pricing environment throughout the Q2 period. Speaker 800:27:54Thank you. Speaker 200:27:55Yes, Greg. Thanks for the question. It really did nothing has changed in that way. We did see an acute competitive pressure, particularly in January of all months. And it didn't persist through the rest of Q2 and we didn't or sorry, in Q1, and we didn't see that continue into Q2 significantly. Speaker 200:28:15And so we know that there were some other factors for that competitor, relating to needing funding and things like that, that may have driven that. So but we haven't seen that persist, which is beneficial for our customers and for us. Speaker 800:28:29All right, great. Thank you very much. Operator00:28:32Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Koji Ikeda from BofA Securities. Your question please. Speaker 700:28:42Yes. Thanks so much for taking my question. I only have one today. And it's really around the demand environment that you guys are seeing. Amongst a lot of software companies out there, we've seen a wide range of demand from very good to frankly not so good out there. Speaker 700:28:58But you guys are executing and you're beating and raising. And so maybe talk a little bit about what's different or what's unique about the current and upcoming demand cycle for JAMF that is enabling these good results and guide? Thank you. Speaker 200:29:13Yes, Koji, I'll take that one. This is John. I think a couple of things are at play here. Again, the longer we talk about management and security together, the more it resonates with our customer. And that has that's continued to see traction as Ian had said. Speaker 200:29:29And also on the mobile side, on the iOS side, we continue to see more and more companies lean into the mobile side for protection and management, but certainly for the security side as well. And the thing that we've seen a lot of demand in recently, and again, we mentioned in one of our top two deals, it was really around the deskless workflow and how these companies are coming up with very innovative ways on how to use the Apple endpoint. And that's really beneficial to us because all of those devices as they use them in retail environments or tracking bags or drivers or all of those things, they all need to be managed and secured within the corporate environment. So I think we're seeing some traction there and that's helping push the demand and we only expect that to continue. Speaker 700:30:14Thank you so much. Operator00:30:17Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jake Roberge from William Blair. Your question please. Speaker 900:30:28Yes, thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the great results. John, we've seen those 2 straight quarters of solid device shipment growth from a lot of the market research firms. I know that your results aren't directly impacted by device shipments on a quarter to quarter basis, but could you just remind us kind of the correlation and lag effect between your business and that device shipment data? Speaker 200:30:52Yes, Jake. It certainly doesn't correlate exactly to the quarter, because we'll see when we see not just 1 quarter or maybe even 2, but when we start to see continued year over year increase in those device sales that impacts us down the road. I can't put my thumb on exactly the timing of that, whether it's 1 or 2 or 3 quarters down the road. But we know that continued device growth gives us a bigger opportunity. It's a leading indicator on what that potential opportunity could be. Speaker 200:31:25So that we're aware of those things and obviously we're trying to address that in the market best we can. But there's not one quarter directly correlates to the next quarter's increase in our license sales, but does create a bigger environment for us to sell into. Speaker 900:31:40Yes, that's helpful. And then great to hear 16 of the top 20 deals included security in the quarter. When looking at security now representing about 40% of the pipeline, has there been any change in the win rates that you're seeing with security and management together? Or are those still kind of much healthier than the rest of the base where you've talked about 2 times better win rates with security and management together? Speaker 200:32:04Yes, that's been consistent. When we talk about management and security together, we do have a higher win rate, we have a higher retention rate and we have a greater upsell rate within those customers. And so that's really, again, one of the reasons we talk about management security resonating with our customer base is and that's one of the indicators. Speaker 900:32:25Very helpful. Thanks for taking the questions. Operator00:32:29Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Patrick Walravens from Citizens JMP. Your question please. Speaker 300:32:40Great. And let me add my congratulations guys. So I was particularly intrigued by the comments in the script about Apple Intelligence maintaining privacy and security. And I was wondering how does Jamf fit in there? So how does Jamf provide tools and expertise necessary to help harness that advancement? Speaker 200:33:01Yes. Thanks, Pat. Great question. One of the things that when Apple talks about Apple Intelligence, they really continue to maintain their posture on security and privacy and they do it somewhat differently than other companies might, which is a good thing for us because that specificity allows us to create tools and capabilities around that, that other platforms may not have or share. And so that again, it gives us that competitive edge to innovate along with Apple at the pace of Apple, which we've done for over 2 decades. Speaker 200:33:35And that's difficult for companies to do, but we've really got a cadence and rigor around that. Speaker 700:33:45All right. Are we leaning into stuff that you want to Speaker 200:33:48save for the conference? Is Speaker 700:33:52that's fine. I get it. I get it. Speaker 200:33:54I thought there was a follow-up for that. But we are going to highlight this at our upcoming JNUC in October in Nashville. 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Its products include Jamf Pro, an Apple ecosystem management software solution for IT environments; Jamf Now, a pay-as-you-go Apple device management software solution for small-to-medium-sized businesses; Jamf School, an apple mobile device management for schools; and Jamf Connect, a ZTNA solution that replaces legacy conditional access and VPN technology. The company also offers Jamf Protect, that provides purpose-built endpoint security and MTD for Mac and mobile devices; Jamf Business Plan, a Apple solution that automates the lifecycle of Apple devices, including device deployment, identity and access, management, and security; Jamf Safe Internet, that help schools protect minors from harmful content on the internet; Jamf Executive Threat Protection, an ADR solution for mobile devices that gives organizations the ability to extract critical device telemetry; Jamf's education apps empower teachers, parents, and students to control, manage, and secure devices inside and outside of the classroom. It sells its SaaS solutions through a subscription model, direct sales force, and online, as well as indirectly through channel partners, including Apple. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00session. As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. Operator00:00:03And now I'd like to introduce Jennifer Gamon. Speaker 100:00:07Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss JAMP's Q2 2024 financial results. With me on today's call are John Stroessl, Chief Executive Officer and Ian Goodkind, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that shortly after the market closed today, we issued a press release announcing our second quarter financial results. We also published a Q2 earnings presentation, investor presentation and Excel file containing quarterly financial statements to assist you with modeling. You may access this information on the Investor Relations section of jamf.com. Speaker 100:00:40Today's discussion includes forward looking statements. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forecast. For more details, please refer to the risk factors and other information discussed in our most recent SEC reports, including our most recent Annual Report on Form 10 ks. JAMFA assumes no obligation to update forward looking statements, which speak only as of the date they are made. I would also like to remind you that during the call, we will discuss some non GAAP measures related to Jamf's performance. Speaker 100:01:11You can find a reconciliation of those measures to the nearest comparable GAAP measures in our earnings release. Additionally, to ensure we can address as many analyst questions as possible during the call, we ask that you please limit your questions to one initial question and one follow-up. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to John Strozzle. John? Speaker 200:01:29Thanks, Jen. In Q2, we continued to deliver on the expectations we set for 2024. Q2 revenue and non GAAP operating income again exceeded the high end of our outlook. Q2 year over year revenue growth was 13% and non GAAP operating income was $23,500,000 representing a non GAAP operating income margin of 15%. This margin represents more than 1,000 basis points improvement from Q2 of 2023. Speaker 200:02:00At the end of Q2, ARR grew 13% year over year to $621,700,000 We ended Q2 with 33,600,000 devices on our platform and 76,600 customers. Of these customers, 41% run both a Jamf Management and Security product. Security ARR grew 27% to $145,000,000 representing 23% of Jamf's total ARR. We continue to see strength across a diverse group of industries, while the tech and K-twelve industries continue to see softness related to device expansion. We're seeing great traction in industries where technology adoption has lagged historically through our platform's ability to deliver unique workflows for purpose based devices, which we refer to as deskless. Speaker 200:02:53We're also encouraged by the 2 consecutive quarters of PC shipment growth after 2 years of declines. IDC estimates Q2 year over year worldwide PC shipment growth of 3%, with Apple experiencing the highest year over year growth in shipments of any manufacturer at nearly 21%, gaining market share. As a reminder, our outlook for 2024 does not rely on significant uplift in device expansion. Before we cover some of our customer successes in Q2, I'd like to touch on some exciting updates coming out of Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference. At the June event, Apple unveiled a suite of updates across its platform, while reiterating their focus on privacy, user experience and seamless integration within its ecosystem. Speaker 200:03:41Apple continues to innovate to help organizations embrace Apple Devices as their secure and stable endpoint of choice. This includes further improvements to manage OS software updates, enhanced phishing resistant identity provider integrations, 0 touch deployment for VisionPro and hardening of managed device attestation by leveraging Apple Silicone Chipsets. Combined, Apple continues to demonstrate their commitment to winning over IT and security teams alike with their endpoint platform. Jamf is fully committed to helping organizations realize all of these capabilities through Jamf's comprehensive platform of software and enterprise integration. Apple also introduced their take on generative large language models through their implementation of Apple Intelligence. Speaker 200:04:29Apple Intelligence is unique in the AI space and that Apple maintains their privacy and security model not only through on device techniques, but also through leveraging a revolutionary innovation in cloud computing, which is Apple Private Cloud Compute. This new combined model provides cloud scale computing power to pick up processing where the device leaves off, all in an auditable privacy first implementation. These capabilities are incredibly powerful and will benefit users as protecting sensitive or confidential data makes device security even more important now than ever. Jamf remains committed to helping organizations realize the best that Apple has to offer on their device beyond traditional device management. As Apple continues to innovate, Jamf provides the tools and expertise necessary to harness these advancements, optimizing the benefit to businesses globally. Speaker 200:05:25We have a number of exciting announcements planned for our Jamf Nation user conference in October to demonstrate our commitment. As we like to say at Jamf, when Apple innovates, Jamf celebrates. For the remainder of my remarks, I'd like to use the strategic growth drivers we discussed during our Investor Day, Mac leadership, mobile expansion, management plus security and international expansion to highlight some of our successes we saw in Q2. In Mac leadership, we continue to see customers choose Mac along with Jamf Pro to meet the needs of highly technical development organizations, like a U. S.-based strategic technology company focused on developing augmented reality software. Speaker 200:06:09This customer chose Jamf to manage their global fleet of Mac. Key to this win was the ease with which Jamf Pro can help safely and efficiently deploy applications across the organization with little to no impact to end users. Efficiency and ultimately end user productivity were also key reasons a leading private sector bank in India decided to make the move to JAMF. The bank was experiencing extensive delays in deployment and configuration with their legacy vendor. Our team was able to demonstrate a number of efficiencies through a pilot period for senior leaders of the bank. Speaker 200:06:45This investment in JAMF licenses underscores the bank's commitment to leveraging cutting edge technology to enhance operational efficiency and security. And Jamf's technology continues to be recognized in the industry. Recently, Jamf was named a leader in the IDC Marketscape Worldwide UEM Software for Apple Devices 20 24 Vendor Assessment, a testament to our leadership in managing and securing Apple at Work. Our second strategic growth driver, expanding with mobile, was particularly strong in Q2 with the 2 largest deals of the quarter having a large mobile component. First is one of the top 10 largest school districts in the U. Speaker 200:07:26S. The district recently hired a new CSO who is interested in stronger security for district Mac devices. Jamf was able to demonstrate our strong security features and expand the conversation to Jamf Connect as well as Jamf Pro for iOS. This key win displays a well entrenched incumbent provider for a significant number of devices, both Mac and iOS over a 5 year term. As I mentioned earlier in my remarks, Jamf's deskless workflows for mobile continue to provide unique solutions for countless industry use cases, representing a large growth opportunity within mobile. Speaker 200:08:03Ipads as point of sale devices and pilot flight bags, Apple Watch for driver tracking and baggage handling, and Vision Pro for medical use cases are just a few. In all cases, these devices need to be managed and secured within their organization's environment. Additionally, in Q2, one of our lighthouse customers in the telecom space expanded with Jamf beyond Mac, adding a significant number of seats of Jamf Pro and Jamf Connect for iOS across thousands of retail locations, representing the 2nd of the largest deals in Q2. This is an incredible competitive win for Jamf against the legacy UEM that reflects not only expanding with mobile, but also Jamf's ability to deliver both management and security at scale. This ability to deliver both management and security on one platform is a key differentiator for Jamf, providing a unified experience for users and driving customers to consider moving away from Windows to Apple. Speaker 200:09:03The number of deals we see with both a management and a security component continues to grow. In Q2, 16 of our top 20 deals included a security component. These deals include both new customers and our management customers expanding into security. Currently, approximately 40% of our new customer commercial pipeline is made up of a security opportunity similar to Q1. Another example of our success with both management and security are what we refer to as delivering our Trusted Access vision is a leading airline in India who has embraced Trusted Access for their Mac devices. Speaker 200:09:42JAMF's holistic approach with Trusted Access allowing the airline to see the benefits of our platform capabilities and building a strong relationship with the CISO were what ultimately secured this competitive win. And last, international expansion. As we laid out at our Investor Day, we continue to invest in strategic geographies with growing adoption of Apple. In addition to the 2 deals I've already mentioned in India, an area where Apple and Jamf are expanding rapidly, we continue to see the strength in more mature international markets like Western Europe and Japan. In Q2, a Western European government agency expanded with Jamf, almost doubling their fleet. Speaker 200:10:22Jamf is now the primary threat defense and secure remote access partner for the agency's iPhone fleet with Jamf Connect and Jamf Protect. Key aspects of this win were tied to the strength of our technology from the superior experience of ZTNA with Jamf Connect to our ability to demonstrate the power of Jamf Protect with Myriam, our AI and machine learning engine for mobile threat prevention. On average, over a 1 month period, Merriam evaluated nearly 320,000 domains and identified nearly 50,000 zero day phishing attacks. I'll now turn it over to Ian to review our Q2 results and provide our Q3 and 2024 outlook. Speaker 300:11:04Thanks, John. Q2 year over year revenue growth was 13% exceeding the high end of our revenue outlook. SaaS recurring revenue remained strong 15%. Less strategic revenue sources like license, services and on premise revenues continue to experience year over year decline. We ended Q2 with total ARR of $621,700,000 representing year over year growth of 13% exceeding expectations. Speaker 300:11:35JAMF Commercial ARR was 74% of JAMF's total ARR and security ARR was 23% of total ARR. JAMF's commercial business remains the main driver of JAMF's ARR and we expect this to continue over time. Our net retention rate decreased slightly as expected to 106% in Q2 when compared to Q1. The remainder of my remarks on margins, expense items and profitability will be on a non GAAP basis. Our GAAP financial results along with a reconciliation between GAAP and non GAAP are found in the earnings release. Speaker 300:12:13Q2 non GAAP gross profit margin was 82%, a slight uptick from Q1 and within our expectation. We continue to expect gross margins in the low 80% range and expect slight fluctuations each quarter. Non GAAP operating income exceeded the high end of our Q2 outlook by $1,000,000 to $23,500,000 or 15% margin due to cost saving initiatives and increased revenues, representing more than 1,000 basis point improvement over Q2 2023. Our trailing 12 month unlevered free cash flow margin was 14% compared to 13% in the prior year. Our effective tax rate for Q2 was negative 7.6%, consistent with our expectations. Speaker 300:13:01As a reminder, for non GAAP metrics, we use our domestic statutory rate for calculating tax impact, which is currently 24%. Please note that we pay a nominal amount of cash taxes. During our Investor Day, we outlined some key milestones that will help you track our progress against our goals in 2024. 1, meet our quarterly financial outlook. In Q2, we exceeded the high end of both our revenue and non GAAP operating income guidance ranges 2, achieve at least 25% growth in security ARR. Speaker 300:13:35Q2 year over year growth of security ARR was 27%. 3, decreased general and administrative expense as a percent of total revenue. Q2 non GAAP G and A margin was 14% similar to Q1, an approximately 100 basis point improvement from Q4 2023. 4, decreased sales and marketing expense as a percent of total revenue. Q2 non GAAP sales and marketing margin was 34%, similar to Q1, an approximately 200 basis point improvement from Q4 2023. Speaker 300:14:12Now turning to our outlook for Q3 and full year 2024. For revenue growth, we continue to expect softness in device upsell through the remainder of 2024. We will continue to drive new logo and cross sell in the areas John highlighted. We continue to make investments in scalability and efficiency to drive future growth and margin expansion. We're focused on scaling our go to market organization, optimizing our platform and automating back office processes. Speaker 300:14:41We reached a key milestone related to these initiatives earlier this month when we went live with a comprehensive systems update to enhance both the customer and partner experience. And later this month, we'll launch JAMF's new partner program. The new program includes enhancements to partner management capabilities and incentive structures with the goal of empowering our partners with the tools and insights needed to expand with Jamf. Scalability initiatives like these will set Jamf up for profitable growth in the future and return Jamf to the rule of 40 as outlined at our Investor Day. Based on these factors, for the Q3 of 2024, we expect total revenue of $156,500,000 to $158,500,000 representing year over year growth of 10% to 11%. Speaker 300:15:35Non GAAP operating income of $25,500,000 to 26 point $5,000,000 representing non GAAP operating income margin of 16.5% at the midpoint. Additionally, this year's Jamf Nation user conference falls in Q4 instead of Q3 impacting Q4 expenses. For the full year 2024, given our continued strong performance in Q2, we are increasing our expectations. Total revenue of 6 $122,500,000 to $625,500,000 representing year over year growth of 11% at the midpoint. This reflects an increase of $3,500,000 at the midpoint. Speaker 300:16:19Non GAAP operating income of 96 $1,000,000 to $98,000,000 representing a non GAAP operating income margin of 15.5 percent at the midpoint and an approximately 7 40 basis point improvement over fiscal year 2023. This reflects an increase of $3,000,000 at the midpoint. While we don't provide an outlook for ARR, we suggest modeling full year 2024 ARR growth similar to full year revenue growth. With respect to unlevered free cash flows for full year 2024, we expect unlevered free cash flow margin to be similar to non GAAP operating income margin. We also provide estimates for amortization, stock based compensation related payroll taxes and other metrics to assist with modeling in the earnings presentation as part of the webcast and also posted on our Investor Relations website. Speaker 300:17:15With respect to the longer term financial outlook we presented as part of our Investor Day, we remain committed to the goals we outlined during the event. And last, we will be hosting an in person product session for investors during the Champ Nation user conference in Nashville in early October, led by our Chief Innovation Officer, Jason Woody. An invitation with details will be sent out next week. Now, John and I will take your questions. Operator? Operator00:17:46Certainly. And our first question for today comes from the line of Rob Owens from Piper Sandler. Your question please. Speaker 400:17:55Great. Thank you so much for taking my question. I would like to drill down into some of the verticals like K-twelve and Tech that remain challenging And just what you're seeing on that front, any signs of stabilization or potential green shoots of growth? I guess noting that the installed base of devices in K-twelve is probably aging at this point to the extent that maybe there's a refresh coming. Speaker 200:18:22Yes, Rob, thanks for your question. This is John and Ian can add some color on this. When we think about the education market, we still are awaiting a refresh cycle there. We're working with some of our larger customers. We did note in our prepared remarks one of our largest wins in Q2 was an education customer. Speaker 200:18:43That's a new logo to us. And we are working with our existing customers on that refresh cycle. We haven't seen them yet, but we are in discussions about them. So we know it's coming. We just don't know exactly when it's coming, but we're working with them on that. Speaker 300:18:56I would just add to Rob, the things that we think could accelerate the education market or things where we look for that refresh We are encouraged also by our security products, Jamshed Internet and their education bundles. And lastly, from deals that we see outside the U. S. And we think those are opportunities for that market and for our growth rates to increase in that market. I think you asked a little bit on tech too. Speaker 300:19:21There we've continued to see what we've seen. But when we look at that and we've been just staring at different ways looking at our net retention, we're starting to just see signs continued signs of stabilization. And that's encouraging for us when you look at our SMB, for example, we've seen stabilization within that NRR. And I think that bodes well for us in the future. And we're just we're not calling about them, but we're just seeing those signs of stabilization. Speaker 400:19:50Great. And then you mentioned security. Would love to drill down a little bit more. Obviously, you guys are executing on that opportunity and gave us a disclosure of management and security customers. Can you remind us if a customer takes both, what's that typically do to deal size versus them taking one or the other? Speaker 400:20:06I guess I'm really trying to extract what that security upsell looks like. Speaker 300:20:10Yes. A couple of data points I'd give you there. First, at our Investor Day, what we had shared is that if you took everyone that was on Pro today or Pro and Connect or Pro and Protect and you move them to business plan at today's ASPs, that was about Speaker 500:20:25a $350,000,000 Speaker 300:20:27opportunity. One other way to think about it is just to look at our prices on those different products. So when you take Jamf Pro, think of Jamf Connect as a 50% uplift and Jamf Protect as a 75% uplift. And then even business plan is, call it, almost double of what Pro would be. Speaker 400:20:48Great. Thank you, guys. Operator00:20:51Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Joshua Riley from Needham. Your question please. Speaker 500:21:01Yes. Thanks for taking my questions and I would echo the nice job on the quarter here. Wanted to get your thoughts on the progress you're seeing in cross selling iOS security and management to existing Mac customers and whether that's being reflected in Jamf Business Plan or just multi device sales. I think you highlighted a couple of examples there, but are you seeing greater adoption of management and security for iOS devices in commercial markets? Speaker 200:21:32Yes, Josh, John here. I'll start the commentary on, we've had really good success when we've spoken about before, when we bundle those products together, not only do we have better retention, we also have better upsell. So our customers are really it's really resonating with our customers, the management and security together are really two sides of the same coin and you can find out something's wrong and you can actually remediate that through the management capability. 2 of our largest deals for the quarter that we mentioned in the prepared remarks both had a significant mobile component. And so that again is testament to those customers and new customers taking on both the management and security side of the product capabilities. Speaker 500:22:20Got it. And then as we look at the guidance here for Q3, and I just wanted to get your guys' thoughts around the pipeline as we are kind of entering the seasonally strong period for commercial markets. Do you think that the visibility is the same as quarter or 2 quarters ago? Or do you think it's improving? How would you just kind of characterize your view into your own internal business? Speaker 500:22:41Thanks, guys. Speaker 200:22:44Yes. Yes, Josh, John again here. It's pretty similar to what it's been. I mean, we're as Ian said, we're seeing some stabilization. We've gotten some good conversations with prospective customers and existing customers alike as they look to expand. Speaker 200:23:00So it's about similar to it has been before and pretty stable. Speaker 500:23:06Got it. Thanks guys. Operator00:23:09Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Matt Hettenberg from RBC. Your question please. Speaker 600:23:18Great. Good afternoon guys. John, I think you said the word stable a whole bunch of times, which is really good to hear in this macro environment. I'm sort of hearing, recognizing that we typically have back end loaded quarters, was the linearity pretty consistent to what you would expect into Q2? And I guess, have things in July trended kind of similar to what you saw in June? Speaker 600:23:42In other words, like does that stability also kind of made its way into Q3? Speaker 200:23:48Yes. Thanks, Matt. We have seen some stabilization and we've said it a bunch of times because that's what we're seeing. We tend to see quarters more back end loaded, how it's typically been and then that's happened for the last few years. Customers, they'll learn to buy this way, right? Speaker 200:24:07They negotiate up until the end of the quarter. So that's been pretty similar in the 1st 2 quarters of this year as we've seen in the past. We're not seeing a significant difference in that pattern. Speaker 600:24:18Got it. Thanks for that. And then as it's also good to hear the PCs are finally growing again, Speaker 700:24:27but you haven't baked that Speaker 600:24:28into guidance. I guess, on the broader topic of partners, which is a big part of your Analyst Day, could you talk about the importance of that Day, could you talk about the importance of that sort of the partner distribution channel into the back half this year? And as we think about acceleration, how meaningful could ramping partner contributions be in that accelerating story? Speaker 200:24:48Yes, significant. I mean, we've really focused on this and we talked about this at our Investor Day, how we've leaned into getting more efficiency from our go to market organization and our sales productivity. A lot of that is through leveraging the partners that we have. And particularly in the U. S, we've tended to leverage partners more heavily outside the U. Speaker 200:25:10S. And now we're really leaning into that in the U. S. As well. Some of the technology infrastructure advancements that we spoke about before as well, We're well into implementing those, which will provide us with partner portals, for example. Speaker 200:25:25Partners can come in. We don't have to have a Jamf person touch that, partners can actually generate their own quotes independently. All of these things will help us quite a bit on the partner side. In addition to rolling out a new partner program, that will leverage that partner portal heavily and the compensation to the partners that go along with that. Speaker 400:25:48Really good to hear. Best of luck guys. Operator00:25:51Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Gregg Moskowitz from Mizuho. Your question please. Speaker 800:26:01Okay. Thank you very much for taking the question. Good afternoon guys. So on the security side, we're continuing to see very nice growth overall. Although from a net new security AR perspective, at least for Q2, it looks like the net new dollars that were added were a little bit lower than what we've seen in the prior couple of Q2 periods. Speaker 800:26:25And I just wanted to ask if there were any nuances to be aware of or anything else that you would call out? Speaker 300:26:30Yes. Hey, Greg, it's Ian. I'll take that one. So yes, when you compare to Q2 last year, if you were on the clock, we talked about a significant enterprise deal that we had, and they were lapping in Q2. We did add approximately $7,000,000 just shy of that here within the quarter, which has been a similar run rate to, let's say, Q3 last year and other periods. Speaker 300:26:52So it actually was a real good quarter. We saw a security component in 2016 of our top 20 deals. So we do see a lot of good traction there, and we do believe that traction will continue. I think the one other interesting comment here I'd make on it is that we've seen it on the mobile side too. I think 7 of our top 10 deals had an iOS component and those have security with it too. Speaker 300:27:15And so we're just seeing traction in those areas that we mentioned at Investor Day with commercial security, the mobile and education security. Those are where we said that cross sell will start to have an impact and start to drive growth as we go forward. Speaker 800:27:31That's really helpful, Ian. Thanks for that. And then for John, you had previously spoken, thinking back to last quarter about particularly aggressive pricing from one of your competitors in the earlier part of Q1. I'm assuming that that activity has ceased. I know it sort of stopped fairly early on in the Q1, but I would love to hear any commentary on the overall pricing environment throughout the Q2 period. Speaker 800:27:54Thank you. Speaker 200:27:55Yes, Greg. Thanks for the question. It really did nothing has changed in that way. We did see an acute competitive pressure, particularly in January of all months. And it didn't persist through the rest of Q2 and we didn't or sorry, in Q1, and we didn't see that continue into Q2 significantly. Speaker 200:28:15And so we know that there were some other factors for that competitor, relating to needing funding and things like that, that may have driven that. So but we haven't seen that persist, which is beneficial for our customers and for us. Speaker 800:28:29All right, great. Thank you very much. Operator00:28:32Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Koji Ikeda from BofA Securities. Your question please. Speaker 700:28:42Yes. Thanks so much for taking my question. I only have one today. And it's really around the demand environment that you guys are seeing. Amongst a lot of software companies out there, we've seen a wide range of demand from very good to frankly not so good out there. Speaker 700:28:58But you guys are executing and you're beating and raising. And so maybe talk a little bit about what's different or what's unique about the current and upcoming demand cycle for JAMF that is enabling these good results and guide? Thank you. Speaker 200:29:13Yes, Koji, I'll take that one. This is John. I think a couple of things are at play here. Again, the longer we talk about management and security together, the more it resonates with our customer. And that has that's continued to see traction as Ian had said. Speaker 200:29:29And also on the mobile side, on the iOS side, we continue to see more and more companies lean into the mobile side for protection and management, but certainly for the security side as well. And the thing that we've seen a lot of demand in recently, and again, we mentioned in one of our top two deals, it was really around the deskless workflow and how these companies are coming up with very innovative ways on how to use the Apple endpoint. And that's really beneficial to us because all of those devices as they use them in retail environments or tracking bags or drivers or all of those things, they all need to be managed and secured within the corporate environment. So I think we're seeing some traction there and that's helping push the demand and we only expect that to continue. Speaker 700:30:14Thank you so much. Operator00:30:17Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jake Roberge from William Blair. Your question please. Speaker 900:30:28Yes, thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the great results. John, we've seen those 2 straight quarters of solid device shipment growth from a lot of the market research firms. I know that your results aren't directly impacted by device shipments on a quarter to quarter basis, but could you just remind us kind of the correlation and lag effect between your business and that device shipment data? Speaker 200:30:52Yes, Jake. It certainly doesn't correlate exactly to the quarter, because we'll see when we see not just 1 quarter or maybe even 2, but when we start to see continued year over year increase in those device sales that impacts us down the road. I can't put my thumb on exactly the timing of that, whether it's 1 or 2 or 3 quarters down the road. But we know that continued device growth gives us a bigger opportunity. It's a leading indicator on what that potential opportunity could be. Speaker 200:31:25So that we're aware of those things and obviously we're trying to address that in the market best we can. But there's not one quarter directly correlates to the next quarter's increase in our license sales, but does create a bigger environment for us to sell into. Speaker 900:31:40Yes, that's helpful. And then great to hear 16 of the top 20 deals included security in the quarter. When looking at security now representing about 40% of the pipeline, has there been any change in the win rates that you're seeing with security and management together? Or are those still kind of much healthier than the rest of the base where you've talked about 2 times better win rates with security and management together? Speaker 200:32:04Yes, that's been consistent. When we talk about management and security together, we do have a higher win rate, we have a higher retention rate and we have a greater upsell rate within those customers. And so that's really, again, one of the reasons we talk about management security resonating with our customer base is and that's one of the indicators. Speaker 900:32:25Very helpful. Thanks for taking the questions. Operator00:32:29Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Patrick Walravens from Citizens JMP. Your question please. Speaker 300:32:40Great. And let me add my congratulations guys. So I was particularly intrigued by the comments in the script about Apple Intelligence maintaining privacy and security. And I was wondering how does Jamf fit in there? So how does Jamf provide tools and expertise necessary to help harness that advancement? Speaker 200:33:01Yes. Thanks, Pat. Great question. One of the things that when Apple talks about Apple Intelligence, they really continue to maintain their posture on security and privacy and they do it somewhat differently than other companies might, which is a good thing for us because that specificity allows us to create tools and capabilities around that, that other platforms may not have or share. And so that again, it gives us that competitive edge to innovate along with Apple at the pace of Apple, which we've done for over 2 decades. Speaker 200:33:35And that's difficult for companies to do, but we've really got a cadence and rigor around that. Speaker 700:33:45All right. Are we leaning into stuff that you want to Speaker 200:33:48save for the conference? Is Speaker 700:33:52that's fine. I get it. I get it. Speaker 200:33:54I thought there was a follow-up for that. But we are going to highlight this at our upcoming JNUC in October in Nashville. So please really look forward to having you come and others as well to share that story with you. Speaker 300:34:06Okay. All right. Great. Thank you. I'll wait. Operator00:34:11Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session as well as today's program.Read morePowered by