NASDAQ:OCUL Ocular Therapeutix Q2 2024 Earnings Report $7.24 -0.49 (-6.29%) As of 12:23 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Ocular Therapeutix EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.26Consensus EPS -$0.22Beat/MissMissed by -$0.04One Year Ago EPS-$0.27Ocular Therapeutix Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$16.40 millionExpected Revenue$15.85 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$550.00 thousandYoY Revenue Growth+7.90%Ocular Therapeutix Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/7/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, August 7, 2024Conference Call Time8:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Ocular Therapeutix Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 7, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Ocular Therapeutics Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the prepared remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the Investor Relations section of the Ocular Therapeutics website. I would now like to turn the call over to Ocular's Vice President of Investor Relations, Bill Slattery. Operator00:00:33Please go ahead, Mr. Slattery. Speaker 100:00:36Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release outlining our financial results for the Q2 2024. To make the best use of your time today, Ocular's Executive Chairman, President and CEO, Doctor. Praveen Duggal, will briefly provide a summary of recent business highlights, so we can quickly get to your questions. Joining Doctor. Speaker 100:00:58Dougal for the Q and A portion of the call will be Donald Notman, Chief Financial Officer Doctor. Nadia Waheed, Chief Medical Officer Doctor. Sanjay Nayak, Chief Strategy Officer and Steve Myers, Chief Commercial Officer. We refer everyone to this morning's press release and our Form 10 Q for a comprehensive update of second quarter financial and business results. During today's call, we will be making certain forward looking statements and our actual results may differ materially. Speaker 100:01:28Please see the Risk Factors section of our annual report on Form 10 ks and our other SEC filings for details on the risks and uncertainties relating to our business. With that, I'd like to hand the call over to Doctor. Praveen Duggal to review our recent updates. Praveen? Speaker 200:01:44Thank you, Bill, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. We know this is a very busy time of year for everyone, so let's jump right in. When I assumed responsibility as Ocular's Chairman of the Board, President and CEO in mid April, the goal was simple, transform this organization into a retina focused company and execute, execute, execute. Ocular's number one priority today is to bring ex Paxley to market for wet AMD as soon as possible given the large market size and the unmet need, both in terms of the need for a more sustainable treatment confirm that the FDA has advised us that the 2 wet AMD studies in which we are currently enrolling patients, SOL-one and SOLAR, are both appropriate as registration enabling studies. This is a momentous achievement for the Ocular team that has been working diligently to surpass all expectations. Speaker 200:03:00In a few short months, this team has achieved 4 tremendous accomplishments that I'd like to outline today. First, we set a decisive vision for the company and streamlined the organization. This year, we've invested in the areas of the business that are most value creating and are aligned with our vision to be a leading retina company. We've invested in highly credentialed retina experts with unmatched experience in clinical development, regulatory affairs, biostatistics and other key functions. To put this dream team in context, members of the Ocular team have played a role in nearly every major advancement in retinal diseases over the past 3 decades. Speaker 200:03:52We are fortunate today to be well financed with approximately $460,000,000 in cash at the end of the Q2. Based on our current operating plans, we believe this gives us a cash runway into 2028 beyond the anticipated top line readouts for both the SOL-one and SOLAR studies in wet AMD. Our commitment to the investment community is to stay financially disciplined, which included making the difficult decision earlier this quarter to reduce headcount in areas of the business that are not aligned with the vision of the company. Our second significant accomplishment relates to the SOUL-one study, where the rate of enrollment continues to accelerate and exceed our expectations. SOL-one is the first of 2 registration studies for ex Paxilate and wet AMD. Speaker 200:04:56The single biggest challenge I saw when I first came to Ocular was how to effectively communicate the benefits and advantages of the SOL-one study to the retinal community as well as patients. In our June Investor Day, we shared the success of our communication campaign by announcing that 60 sites had been activated and over 150 patients were in various stages of loading and randomization. As many of you know, enrollment in clinical trials is not always linear. When you hit a critical mass of sites activated, enrollment starts to accelerate in an exponential fashion. And today, we believe we're in that exciting phase of enrollment in the SOL-one study. Speaker 200:05:47In short, we continue to be delighted with the enrollment following our Investor Day announcement. The 3rd substantial accomplishment is the initiation of our repeat dosing study, SOLAR or wet AMD. Over the course of just 3 months, the Ocular team developed the concept for SOLAR, activated study sites and as of last week began enrolling SOLAR is acceptable, in writing that SOLAR is acceptable as a registrational study for ex paclit in wet AMD. Let me say that again. XOLAR was taken from concept to clinic in just 3 months. Speaker 200:06:48This is simply exceptional and in my experience, unprecedented. When we talk about SOL-one and SOLAR, what's most important for everyone to understand is how well these studies complement each other and how much thought has gone into patient selection and study design to reduce disease variability, derisk the patient population and improve the likelihood of a successful outcome in both pivotal studies. The bottom line is when taken in its totality, SOL-one and SOLAR are designed to meet our regulatory requirements while providing commercially meaningful data. The 4th accomplishment is the presentation of results from our Phase 1 HELIO study in non proliferative diabetic retinopathy or NPDR. What's remarkable about these results is that every single metric and parameter favored ex Paxil. Speaker 200:08:00These data show that with a single expaaxi implant, literally 0 patients in the trial were observed to have developed vision threatening complications at 48 weeks versus the 20% to 30% year over year historic rates. In other words, not a single patient after a single injection of X Paxley developed a potentially blinding complication after 48 weeks. These impressive results have been well noted by our retina colleagues. In fact, they were viewed as significant enough to warrant a late breaker presentation at the recent ASRS meeting. Ultimately, we believe the positive initial data from Healios not only provide us a remarkable opportunity in NPDR, but also build on our U. Speaker 200:09:02S. And Australia studies in wet AMD, giving us further data based confidence for the success of both the SOL-one and SOLAR pivotal studies. As we conclude the prepared remarks in today's call, I'd like to leave you with these key messages. We are dedicated to becoming a leader in the treatment of retinal disease and improving vision in the real world. We have assembled an expert retina team to accelerate the development of X Pac's wafer wet AMD, which now includes 2 registration enabling studies that are enrolling patients. Speaker 200:09:51We have very thoughtfully designed both SOL-one and SOLAR with an emphasis on enriching the patient selection appropriately for each trial and on derisking each study to improve the probability of success. SOL-one and SOLAR are strategically designed to provide meaningful data for both regulatory and commercial purposes. We are executing extremely well, exceeding our highest expectations based on the enrollment pace for Solar One and the rapidity of initiation of enrollment in Solar. And we believe based on our current operating plans that our cash runway takes us into 2028 and fully funds GoOne and Solar top line results. We look forward to updating you on our progress with the sincerest thanks for your engagement and ongoing support. Speaker 200:11:04Operator, I would now like to open the call for questions. Operator00:11:09Thank you. Our first question comes from Tazeen Ahmad of Bank of America. Your line is open. Speaker 300:11:30Hi, good morning guys. Thanks so much for taking my questions. Congrats on getting the alignment with FDA. Praveen, I wanted to maybe ask you with that now in tow, your CEL1 study has been recruiting much faster than expected. And at your R and D day you talked about how that could also feed into the speed with which the SOLAR study could recruit. Speaker 300:11:53Have you had a chance to talk to FDA about whether both studies would need to be submitted at the same time when you do apply for approval or kind of potential rolling submission beyond the table? That's my first question. And then secondly, as you think about the time period between inserts that might be needed for the FOL-one study, you've talked about an average of maybe every 9 months. Can you talk about as you experience as a retina physician, dosing less frequently and some dosing less frequently and where you think at the end of the day, the average dosing frequency for the insert will be? Thanks. Speaker 200:12:43Good morning, Tazeen, and thank you for the questions. I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your questions. First of all, let me make it very clear. We are absolutely thrilled with the written FDA response. It validates what we've been saying to the Street all along, which is that our thinking is absolutely in line with the FDA requirements. Speaker 200:13:04And now we have this in writing and this absolutely validates everything that we've told you. We also have in writing that these two studies will potentially qualify for approval. 1 is a non inferiority study and the other one is a superiority study. These two studies are very thoughtfully, very carefully designed to answer not only the regulatory requirement questions, but also have a commercial impact. Very importantly, as I've been saying all along, the SOLAR study is specifically designed to actually increase the recruitment in SOLAR. Speaker 200:13:46Having said that, I must tell you that we're very pleased with the continued pace of recruitment in SOLAR. As you know, recruitment is not necessarily a lender. After you hit a certain critical mass, it becomes exponential and we clearly are in that phase. We are very pleased with the recruitment of SOL-one. Now in regards to your question about the clinical the potential clinical use of ex Paxilate, our goal as you know is to get this drug to patients as soon as possible. Speaker 200:14:22We believe that when you take SOL-one and SOLAR in its totality, it allows physicians the flexibility of dosing up to every 6 months. In some patients, this may be necessary and a lot of patients, this may not be necessary and patients may be extended further for a treatment every 9 months, 10 months or even a year. So the important part here is that to recognize that this disease is a heterogeneous disease. Patients will be treated in a personalized fashion, I believe, as they have as they are being with the anti VEGFs today. But the important part is that given the totality of these two studies, it answers many questions while providing a clear regulatory pathway and gives the physicians the flexibility in terms of personal treatment and having a normal treatment regimen with potentially a better chronic long term outcome. Speaker 200:15:22Thank you for your question. Operator00:15:26We'll take our next question from Biren Amin of Piper Sandler. Speaker 400:15:32Yes. Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the regulatory update. Maybe, Praveen, if I could start with SOL-one. I think the company previously guided to patient enrollment completing in the trial in the first half of twenty twenty five. Speaker 400:15:47Do you have an update on this timeline? And then second question is, you've got FDA feedback and I know there's been some discussions with EMA. Any update there in terms of the EMA's thoughts on the design of Solar and Sol 1? Speaker 200:16:09Darren, thank you for your question and good morning to you. Thank you. So first of all, you're right, we did guide in our previous filings active recruitment for SOL-one being the end of the Q1 of 2025. We did also say that given the pace of enrolling for SOL-one, we believe earlier. We have not changed any official guidance since then. Speaker 200:16:38It is too early to do so. When appropriate, we certainly will update you with the proper amount. In regards to the EMA, it's clear that Paxly is a global drug and we are in conversations with the EMA. We're very, very pleased with our conversations. And when the time is appropriate, we certainly will update you as to that as well. Speaker 400:17:04And if I could have one follow-up on the SOLAR, what are the retreatment criteria that you're using for the trial? Speaker 200:17:15As you know, this is a non inferiority study. My expectation is that the retreatment criteria will be different than SOD1 and in line with other non inferiority studies. As of now, we're still discussing this with the FDA And when it is finalized, we'll certainly update you. Speaker 400:17:35Great. Thank you. Operator00:17:41Thank you. We'll take our next question from Tara Bancroft of TD Cowen. Speaker 500:17:47Hi, good morning and great to see the news on the FDA feedback here. So my question is, if you can elaborate on the term that you put in the press release that generally acceptable in the written response and if you believe there's any remaining risk to both studies satisfying the NDA requirements? And really, if so, if there's anything that you're doing to mitigate that proactively? Thank you. Speaker 200:18:11Good morning, Tara, and thank you for your question. Look, the term that we use is a term that the FDA uses and it's term that's generally used. There's really nothing to read into that. The take home message here is that we are absolutely thrilled with the alignment that the FDA has and we have that now in writing and I repeat in writing. So there is this is not subject to any interpretation. Speaker 200:18:34It is in writing that their thinking that their requirements are absolutely aligned with what we've been saying. For example, we have been saying and this is aligned with the FDA and we have in writing and that sham is not recommended, that it does not constitute complete masking. It has the ability to introduce bias and any study done with a sham will be subject to review. That is what we've been saying all along and now we have that in writing from the FDA in a Type C response. As you know, we don't have any sham in any of our studies. Speaker 200:19:11We are not willing to do any of our studies at risk. We believe that we're in absolute alignment with what the FDA requirements are as of just a few days ago. Speaker 600:19:30Great. Thank you. Operator00:19:32Thank you. We'll move next to Colleen Cusi of Baird. Speaker 500:19:37Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the progress. So with the FDA written feedback, would you expect to also plan to pursue a SPA for SOLAR? And then based on the feedback that you received, are there any changes that you plan to make to the SOLAR study? Speaker 500:19:55And can you just confirm how the FDA is viewing the role of the comparator arm? Do you need any sort of statistical significance, difference in terms of the EYLEA high dose arm? Speaker 200:20:08Colleen, good morning and again, thank you for your question. It's important to state that we requested a Type C meeting and the FDA responded by saying that they know us and our drug well enough to have a written response. As you know, we have a spot for the SILVA-one study. To answer your question directly, look, we believe we are in complete alignment with the example regarding sham is absolutely validated in this written response. In regards to the potential for respond, the answer is I honestly don't know at this point. Speaker 200:20:49We've just received this written response a few days ago. What I will tell you is that our goal here is to get this drug to patients as quickly as possible. We will not do anything that will jeopardize that or will delay that in any way whether it be use of resources or time. We will give you an answer regarding the spa discussion at this point. I simply don't know as yet. Speaker 200:21:16Pauline, does that answer your question? Was there another one that I missed? Speaker 500:21:20And then just yes, that's helpful on the SPA. And then can you just confirm, were there any other changes that you plan to make to the trial design and what the role of the comparator arm is, whether you need any statistics around that? Speaker 200:21:31Yes. So we don't anticipate really any large changes whatsoever. The FDA has been very clear in its written response to saying that this trial is acceptable as a registration study. We really do not anticipate any great changes whatsoever here. This is absolute complete alignment with the FDA. Speaker 200:21:52In regards to the comparator arm, again, I say this as I said before, we have followed the guidelines to the T. As you know, the comparator or the requirement of the comparator arm is that the comparator arm have the same dosing frequency and the same rescue requirements as the treatment arm. It is purely for masking purposes. It is not for statistical analysis. And that has not changed I believe with FDA at all. Speaker 200:22:21That has been absolutely in line with what we've been saying. Speaker 500:22:26Great. Thanks for taking our questions. Speaker 700:22:28Thank you. Operator00:22:31Our next question is from Kelly Hsieh of Jefferies. Speaker 600:22:36Congrats on the great progress. Maybe could you walk us your expectation on how the 2 comparator arms might perform in so are based on historical trial data and how the real world dosing frequency of EYLEA for both high dose and the low dose might differ in YAMD? Thank you. Speaker 200:22:58Kelly, good morning and thank you for your question. I don't want to predict how a study may perform other than to tell you that we are extremely confident in terms of our arms that we have selected. As you know, this is a SOLAR is a trial design, where the statistical analysis will be done versus the 2 milligram esolubracet arm. I believe the best comparator that you can look for is our U. S. Speaker 200:23:34Study. In our U. S. Study, as you recall, in a patient population that was not super selective or enriched as we have in SOLAR at the 6 month point per protocol, 100% of patients were rescue free. And again, I repeat per protocol at 6 months, a 100% of patients were rescue free in the ex paclit arm. Speaker 200:23:59So this gives us a great deal of confidence based on our data that in this patient population, which has been derisked and selected and enriched that those numbers will not only stand, but actually will be even better. As I said early on, there is one comparator arm and that is not for a statistical analysis that is purely for purposes. But given the data that we have from the U. S. Study, we are very confident in the non inferiority outcome of SIRAR. Speaker 600:24:33Makes sense. Thank you. And maybe I can add a follow-up here. So now your wet AMD trials are well on track to advance, wondering how should we think about the next step of actually in diabetic retinopathy? What would be the key learnings on trial design from your discussion with FDA on wet AMD trial designs and also the Doctor trial design in the space overall? Speaker 600:24:57Thanks. Speaker 200:24:59Kelly, thank you again for that question. I want to be very clear. We as a company have made our priorities about as transparent and about as clear as possible. Our priority is SOL-one and SOLAR. Our priority is to get this drug to patients as quickly as possible and have the potential to be approved as quickly as possible. Speaker 200:25:23We are thrilled with the Healios data set. This comes as the next priority. To be clear, we have not had a formal meeting with the FDA regarding the non proliferative diabetic retinopathy study. However, our intention is to do so. The take home messages from HELIOS-two, the first one is that the results of Helios, which I think are quite remarkable, which is that as we mentioned earlier that every single metric, every single parameter is absolutely aligned in favor of the drug. Speaker 200:26:00And that's quite remarkable given the variability of this patient population. I don't think there's any doubt whatsoever that the drug is active, that it's safe, and that is absolutely working at 48 weeks with a single injection of patients with non proliferative diabetic retinopathy. The take home message is that we have a clear path forward to target this disease for which right now effectively there is no drug and patients are going blind. The vision threatening complication rate as you know is 20% to 30% year upon year. So the first take home message is that there's a clear path forward for us into this target. Speaker 200:26:41The second important is that there is a great line of sight that is database that should give us confidence based on Helios for the success of SOL-one and SOLAR in terms of the activity of this drug. So I think those are the 2 take home messages. Speaker 600:27:00Thanks again, Praveen. Speaker 200:27:02Thank you, Kelly. Operator00:27:05Our next question is from Sean McCutcheon of Raymond James. Speaker 700:27:12Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. So maybe to pick on the SOLAR comparator arm a bit more and understanding that the 8 megabliterset is for masking only, but what strategic significance do you think it plays that you will have these data in hand and your competitors presumably will not? Does this give you optionality on the marketing front or maybe to widen the lens a bit? Can you just walk us through the decision process as you design the study with your investigators? Speaker 700:27:41Thanks. Speaker 200:27:42Tom, thank you. Good morning and thank you for your question. The first goal here is to make sure that from a regulatory point of view, we're about as clear as possible and as aligned as possible with the FDA requirements. I believe we've achieved that with the comparator arm. And as you rightly stated, the comparator arm is purely for masking, not for statistical analysis. Speaker 200:28:05That is the first goal. In terms of what the read through from a commercial point of view, we will be able to show here a comparison with what may be considered the next generation of EYLEA product, which is high dose EYLEA. And I think that will be very valuable for physicians. Most importantly, when taken in its totality, when you look at SOL-one and SOLAR, SOL-one is a superiority study. Solar will give us a great deal of information as to the durability of the single injection of ax paclit. Speaker 200:28:44So LAR is a repeat non inferiority study. It gives us information regarding repeatability. It allows for flexibility of dosing and it gives us a commercial information in regards to how our drug does, which we are very confident about with both the 2 milligram of flivirasat as well as high dose EYLEA. So I think taken in its totality, most of the questions accumulation of the data in both studies. Operator00:29:24And we'll take our next question from Yi Chen of H. C. Wainwright. Speaker 100:29:31Thank you for taking my questions. With respect the SOLAR trial, do you currently have an estimate as to when the trial could complete enrollment? And also for the 5 loading doses, does that apply to both patients who failed at randomization in the SOW-one trial as well as patients who directly enrolled into the SOW-one trial? Thank you. Speaker 200:29:55Keith, thank you again. Good morning and thank you for your question. We have not given any guidelines as to when we expect Solar to be recruited. Regarding your second question, one of the really important requirements that I had for SOLAR was that not only it's not cannibalized patients from SOLAR-one, but it actually helped the recruitment in SUL-one. Now we're recruiting extraordinarily well in SUL-one, I want to emphasize that, but we always want to have more traffic in that study. Speaker 200:30:32So you are correct. Initially, right now, what we're doing is we're only recruiting those patients who screen fail in SOL-one into SOLAR. Now, why may they screen fail? Well, the most common reason may be that they simply may not get, for instance, a 10 letter gain. They may only get an 8 or 9 letter gain. Speaker 200:30:55And then there will be a place for them to go, which is so large. It will absolutely increase the traffic and the recruitment of Solar One. Once we are certain that Solar One is either recruited or about to be recruited, we control the switch and this is really important. We control the switch to now say patients who are being recruited for SOLAR and no longer need to come from SOLAR-one screen failures that may come from the outside. But the way the study is designed, the fact that we control that switch is really important to understand, which is that as required, so large will only help the recruitment of Sol 1 and never cannibalize on the recruitment of SOL-one. Speaker 200:31:46For study sites, this is really important. It's really important for studies as you probably saw in that quote from Doctor. Oh, that they're able to tell patients, this is a great study, we'd like you to be recruited for this study and the study coordinators and the physicians will have the confidence that pretty much all patients will qualify for 1 or the other study. That is a really important fact for all study centers. Thank you for your question. Operator00:32:19We'll take a question from Jon Wollibin of Citizens Speaker 500:32:25JMP. Hi. This is Catherine on for John. I just have quick question about, so recruitment, just kind of follow-up, so one recruitment, just follow-up. Have you guys updated how many patients have been randomized? Speaker 500:32:39I know there was an update during the Investor Day. And also any guidance on the screen failure rate? Speaker 200:32:45Yes. Thank you for the question and good morning. What we did in Investor Day was to show that this team that we had assembled, what we call the Dream Team, was not just there in name, but was actually functioning extremely well and working extremely hard. And to do so, we actually provided data. And what we showed that in 2 short months, we absolutely exceeded the expectations of recruitment. Speaker 200:33:14What we said was that 151 patients had been recruited and were in various stages of loading and randomization. We have not given you any further granularity as to that. What we have said also is that the spleen failure rate is lower than we anticipated and modeled and that we're very pleased with that. And given that, our expectation is that most of the patients eventually in SOLAR will come from the outside and not necessarily from the screen failures of SOLAR-one because the screen failure rate is so low. That guidance also has not changed. Speaker 200:33:59As you know, as I said earlier, when you reach a critical mass, you enter an exponential phase of recruitment and we are in that phase. We are very, very pleased with the recruitment of Solar One And our belief is now with the execution of Solar that pace of recruitment will be even further accelerated. And we certainly will give you milestones when appropriate. Thanks for your question. Speaker 500:34:26Thank Operator00:34:30you. This concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back to Doctor. Praveen Duggal for closing remarks. Speaker 200:34:38Thank you very much. And I'd like to thank everyone for taking the time to join our call today. We look forward to updating you on our progress. If you have any follow-up questions, please reach out to Bill Slattery, our Vice President of Investor Relations. Have a great day, and you may now disconnect the call. Speaker 200:34:58Thank you. Operator00:35:01This does conclude the Ocular Therapeutics' Q2 2024 earnings conference call. 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Email Address About Ocular TherapeutixOcular Therapeutix (NASDAQ:OCUL), a biopharmaceutical company, focuses on the formulation, development, and commercialization of therapies for diseases and conditions of the eye using its bioresorbable hydrogel-based formulation technology in the United States. The company markets DEXTENZA, a dexamethasone ophthalmic insert to treat post-surgical ocular inflammation and pain following ophthalmic surgery, as well as allergic conjunctivitis. It is developing AXPAXLI, an axitinib intravitreal implant that is in phase 3 trials for the treatment of wet age-related macular degeneration and other retinal diseases; PAXTRAVA, a travoprost intracameral implant, which is in phase 2 clinical trials for the treatment of open-angle glaucoma or ocular hypertension; OTX-CSI, a cyclosporine intracanalicular insert that has completed phase 2 clinical trials for the treatment of dry eye disease; and OTX-DED, a dexamethasone intracanalicular insert, which is in phase 2 clinical trials for the short-term treatment of the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease. In addition, the company offers modulator for intermediate and late dry age-related macular degeneration; and gene delivery for inherited retinal degenerations and protein biofactory indications. The company has a strategic collaboration with Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (Regeneron) for the development and commercialization of products using the company's sustained-release hydrogel in combination with Regeneron's large molecule VEGF-targeting compounds for the treatment of retinal diseases; and AffaMed Therapeutics Limited for the development and commercialization of DEXTENZA and OTX-TIC. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Ocular Therapeutics Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the prepared remarks, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the Investor Relations section of the Ocular Therapeutics website. I would now like to turn the call over to Ocular's Vice President of Investor Relations, Bill Slattery. Operator00:00:33Please go ahead, Mr. Slattery. Speaker 100:00:36Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release outlining our financial results for the Q2 2024. To make the best use of your time today, Ocular's Executive Chairman, President and CEO, Doctor. Praveen Duggal, will briefly provide a summary of recent business highlights, so we can quickly get to your questions. Joining Doctor. Speaker 100:00:58Dougal for the Q and A portion of the call will be Donald Notman, Chief Financial Officer Doctor. Nadia Waheed, Chief Medical Officer Doctor. Sanjay Nayak, Chief Strategy Officer and Steve Myers, Chief Commercial Officer. We refer everyone to this morning's press release and our Form 10 Q for a comprehensive update of second quarter financial and business results. During today's call, we will be making certain forward looking statements and our actual results may differ materially. Speaker 100:01:28Please see the Risk Factors section of our annual report on Form 10 ks and our other SEC filings for details on the risks and uncertainties relating to our business. With that, I'd like to hand the call over to Doctor. Praveen Duggal to review our recent updates. Praveen? Speaker 200:01:44Thank you, Bill, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. We know this is a very busy time of year for everyone, so let's jump right in. When I assumed responsibility as Ocular's Chairman of the Board, President and CEO in mid April, the goal was simple, transform this organization into a retina focused company and execute, execute, execute. Ocular's number one priority today is to bring ex Paxley to market for wet AMD as soon as possible given the large market size and the unmet need, both in terms of the need for a more sustainable treatment confirm that the FDA has advised us that the 2 wet AMD studies in which we are currently enrolling patients, SOL-one and SOLAR, are both appropriate as registration enabling studies. This is a momentous achievement for the Ocular team that has been working diligently to surpass all expectations. Speaker 200:03:00In a few short months, this team has achieved 4 tremendous accomplishments that I'd like to outline today. First, we set a decisive vision for the company and streamlined the organization. This year, we've invested in the areas of the business that are most value creating and are aligned with our vision to be a leading retina company. We've invested in highly credentialed retina experts with unmatched experience in clinical development, regulatory affairs, biostatistics and other key functions. To put this dream team in context, members of the Ocular team have played a role in nearly every major advancement in retinal diseases over the past 3 decades. Speaker 200:03:52We are fortunate today to be well financed with approximately $460,000,000 in cash at the end of the Q2. Based on our current operating plans, we believe this gives us a cash runway into 2028 beyond the anticipated top line readouts for both the SOL-one and SOLAR studies in wet AMD. Our commitment to the investment community is to stay financially disciplined, which included making the difficult decision earlier this quarter to reduce headcount in areas of the business that are not aligned with the vision of the company. Our second significant accomplishment relates to the SOUL-one study, where the rate of enrollment continues to accelerate and exceed our expectations. SOL-one is the first of 2 registration studies for ex Paxilate and wet AMD. Speaker 200:04:56The single biggest challenge I saw when I first came to Ocular was how to effectively communicate the benefits and advantages of the SOL-one study to the retinal community as well as patients. In our June Investor Day, we shared the success of our communication campaign by announcing that 60 sites had been activated and over 150 patients were in various stages of loading and randomization. As many of you know, enrollment in clinical trials is not always linear. When you hit a critical mass of sites activated, enrollment starts to accelerate in an exponential fashion. And today, we believe we're in that exciting phase of enrollment in the SOL-one study. Speaker 200:05:47In short, we continue to be delighted with the enrollment following our Investor Day announcement. The 3rd substantial accomplishment is the initiation of our repeat dosing study, SOLAR or wet AMD. Over the course of just 3 months, the Ocular team developed the concept for SOLAR, activated study sites and as of last week began enrolling SOLAR is acceptable, in writing that SOLAR is acceptable as a registrational study for ex paclit in wet AMD. Let me say that again. XOLAR was taken from concept to clinic in just 3 months. Speaker 200:06:48This is simply exceptional and in my experience, unprecedented. When we talk about SOL-one and SOLAR, what's most important for everyone to understand is how well these studies complement each other and how much thought has gone into patient selection and study design to reduce disease variability, derisk the patient population and improve the likelihood of a successful outcome in both pivotal studies. The bottom line is when taken in its totality, SOL-one and SOLAR are designed to meet our regulatory requirements while providing commercially meaningful data. The 4th accomplishment is the presentation of results from our Phase 1 HELIO study in non proliferative diabetic retinopathy or NPDR. What's remarkable about these results is that every single metric and parameter favored ex Paxil. Speaker 200:08:00These data show that with a single expaaxi implant, literally 0 patients in the trial were observed to have developed vision threatening complications at 48 weeks versus the 20% to 30% year over year historic rates. In other words, not a single patient after a single injection of X Paxley developed a potentially blinding complication after 48 weeks. These impressive results have been well noted by our retina colleagues. In fact, they were viewed as significant enough to warrant a late breaker presentation at the recent ASRS meeting. Ultimately, we believe the positive initial data from Healios not only provide us a remarkable opportunity in NPDR, but also build on our U. Speaker 200:09:02S. And Australia studies in wet AMD, giving us further data based confidence for the success of both the SOL-one and SOLAR pivotal studies. As we conclude the prepared remarks in today's call, I'd like to leave you with these key messages. We are dedicated to becoming a leader in the treatment of retinal disease and improving vision in the real world. We have assembled an expert retina team to accelerate the development of X Pac's wafer wet AMD, which now includes 2 registration enabling studies that are enrolling patients. Speaker 200:09:51We have very thoughtfully designed both SOL-one and SOLAR with an emphasis on enriching the patient selection appropriately for each trial and on derisking each study to improve the probability of success. SOL-one and SOLAR are strategically designed to provide meaningful data for both regulatory and commercial purposes. We are executing extremely well, exceeding our highest expectations based on the enrollment pace for Solar One and the rapidity of initiation of enrollment in Solar. And we believe based on our current operating plans that our cash runway takes us into 2028 and fully funds GoOne and Solar top line results. We look forward to updating you on our progress with the sincerest thanks for your engagement and ongoing support. Speaker 200:11:04Operator, I would now like to open the call for questions. Operator00:11:09Thank you. Our first question comes from Tazeen Ahmad of Bank of America. Your line is open. Speaker 300:11:30Hi, good morning guys. Thanks so much for taking my questions. Congrats on getting the alignment with FDA. Praveen, I wanted to maybe ask you with that now in tow, your CEL1 study has been recruiting much faster than expected. And at your R and D day you talked about how that could also feed into the speed with which the SOLAR study could recruit. Speaker 300:11:53Have you had a chance to talk to FDA about whether both studies would need to be submitted at the same time when you do apply for approval or kind of potential rolling submission beyond the table? That's my first question. And then secondly, as you think about the time period between inserts that might be needed for the FOL-one study, you've talked about an average of maybe every 9 months. Can you talk about as you experience as a retina physician, dosing less frequently and some dosing less frequently and where you think at the end of the day, the average dosing frequency for the insert will be? Thanks. Speaker 200:12:43Good morning, Tazeen, and thank you for the questions. I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your questions. First of all, let me make it very clear. We are absolutely thrilled with the written FDA response. It validates what we've been saying to the Street all along, which is that our thinking is absolutely in line with the FDA requirements. Speaker 200:13:04And now we have this in writing and this absolutely validates everything that we've told you. We also have in writing that these two studies will potentially qualify for approval. 1 is a non inferiority study and the other one is a superiority study. These two studies are very thoughtfully, very carefully designed to answer not only the regulatory requirement questions, but also have a commercial impact. Very importantly, as I've been saying all along, the SOLAR study is specifically designed to actually increase the recruitment in SOLAR. Speaker 200:13:46Having said that, I must tell you that we're very pleased with the continued pace of recruitment in SOLAR. As you know, recruitment is not necessarily a lender. After you hit a certain critical mass, it becomes exponential and we clearly are in that phase. We are very pleased with the recruitment of SOL-one. Now in regards to your question about the clinical the potential clinical use of ex Paxilate, our goal as you know is to get this drug to patients as soon as possible. Speaker 200:14:22We believe that when you take SOL-one and SOLAR in its totality, it allows physicians the flexibility of dosing up to every 6 months. In some patients, this may be necessary and a lot of patients, this may not be necessary and patients may be extended further for a treatment every 9 months, 10 months or even a year. So the important part here is that to recognize that this disease is a heterogeneous disease. Patients will be treated in a personalized fashion, I believe, as they have as they are being with the anti VEGFs today. But the important part is that given the totality of these two studies, it answers many questions while providing a clear regulatory pathway and gives the physicians the flexibility in terms of personal treatment and having a normal treatment regimen with potentially a better chronic long term outcome. Speaker 200:15:22Thank you for your question. Operator00:15:26We'll take our next question from Biren Amin of Piper Sandler. Speaker 400:15:32Yes. Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the regulatory update. Maybe, Praveen, if I could start with SOL-one. I think the company previously guided to patient enrollment completing in the trial in the first half of twenty twenty five. Speaker 400:15:47Do you have an update on this timeline? And then second question is, you've got FDA feedback and I know there's been some discussions with EMA. Any update there in terms of the EMA's thoughts on the design of Solar and Sol 1? Speaker 200:16:09Darren, thank you for your question and good morning to you. Thank you. So first of all, you're right, we did guide in our previous filings active recruitment for SOL-one being the end of the Q1 of 2025. We did also say that given the pace of enrolling for SOL-one, we believe earlier. We have not changed any official guidance since then. Speaker 200:16:38It is too early to do so. When appropriate, we certainly will update you with the proper amount. In regards to the EMA, it's clear that Paxly is a global drug and we are in conversations with the EMA. We're very, very pleased with our conversations. And when the time is appropriate, we certainly will update you as to that as well. Speaker 400:17:04And if I could have one follow-up on the SOLAR, what are the retreatment criteria that you're using for the trial? Speaker 200:17:15As you know, this is a non inferiority study. My expectation is that the retreatment criteria will be different than SOD1 and in line with other non inferiority studies. As of now, we're still discussing this with the FDA And when it is finalized, we'll certainly update you. Speaker 400:17:35Great. Thank you. Operator00:17:41Thank you. We'll take our next question from Tara Bancroft of TD Cowen. Speaker 500:17:47Hi, good morning and great to see the news on the FDA feedback here. So my question is, if you can elaborate on the term that you put in the press release that generally acceptable in the written response and if you believe there's any remaining risk to both studies satisfying the NDA requirements? And really, if so, if there's anything that you're doing to mitigate that proactively? Thank you. Speaker 200:18:11Good morning, Tara, and thank you for your question. Look, the term that we use is a term that the FDA uses and it's term that's generally used. There's really nothing to read into that. The take home message here is that we are absolutely thrilled with the alignment that the FDA has and we have that now in writing and I repeat in writing. So there is this is not subject to any interpretation. Speaker 200:18:34It is in writing that their thinking that their requirements are absolutely aligned with what we've been saying. For example, we have been saying and this is aligned with the FDA and we have in writing and that sham is not recommended, that it does not constitute complete masking. It has the ability to introduce bias and any study done with a sham will be subject to review. That is what we've been saying all along and now we have that in writing from the FDA in a Type C response. As you know, we don't have any sham in any of our studies. Speaker 200:19:11We are not willing to do any of our studies at risk. We believe that we're in absolute alignment with what the FDA requirements are as of just a few days ago. Speaker 600:19:30Great. Thank you. Operator00:19:32Thank you. We'll move next to Colleen Cusi of Baird. Speaker 500:19:37Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the progress. So with the FDA written feedback, would you expect to also plan to pursue a SPA for SOLAR? And then based on the feedback that you received, are there any changes that you plan to make to the SOLAR study? Speaker 500:19:55And can you just confirm how the FDA is viewing the role of the comparator arm? Do you need any sort of statistical significance, difference in terms of the EYLEA high dose arm? Speaker 200:20:08Colleen, good morning and again, thank you for your question. It's important to state that we requested a Type C meeting and the FDA responded by saying that they know us and our drug well enough to have a written response. As you know, we have a spot for the SILVA-one study. To answer your question directly, look, we believe we are in complete alignment with the example regarding sham is absolutely validated in this written response. In regards to the potential for respond, the answer is I honestly don't know at this point. Speaker 200:20:49We've just received this written response a few days ago. What I will tell you is that our goal here is to get this drug to patients as quickly as possible. We will not do anything that will jeopardize that or will delay that in any way whether it be use of resources or time. We will give you an answer regarding the spa discussion at this point. I simply don't know as yet. Speaker 200:21:16Pauline, does that answer your question? Was there another one that I missed? Speaker 500:21:20And then just yes, that's helpful on the SPA. And then can you just confirm, were there any other changes that you plan to make to the trial design and what the role of the comparator arm is, whether you need any statistics around that? Speaker 200:21:31Yes. So we don't anticipate really any large changes whatsoever. The FDA has been very clear in its written response to saying that this trial is acceptable as a registration study. We really do not anticipate any great changes whatsoever here. This is absolute complete alignment with the FDA. Speaker 200:21:52In regards to the comparator arm, again, I say this as I said before, we have followed the guidelines to the T. As you know, the comparator or the requirement of the comparator arm is that the comparator arm have the same dosing frequency and the same rescue requirements as the treatment arm. It is purely for masking purposes. It is not for statistical analysis. And that has not changed I believe with FDA at all. Speaker 200:22:21That has been absolutely in line with what we've been saying. Speaker 500:22:26Great. Thanks for taking our questions. Speaker 700:22:28Thank you. Operator00:22:31Our next question is from Kelly Hsieh of Jefferies. Speaker 600:22:36Congrats on the great progress. Maybe could you walk us your expectation on how the 2 comparator arms might perform in so are based on historical trial data and how the real world dosing frequency of EYLEA for both high dose and the low dose might differ in YAMD? Thank you. Speaker 200:22:58Kelly, good morning and thank you for your question. I don't want to predict how a study may perform other than to tell you that we are extremely confident in terms of our arms that we have selected. As you know, this is a SOLAR is a trial design, where the statistical analysis will be done versus the 2 milligram esolubracet arm. I believe the best comparator that you can look for is our U. S. Speaker 200:23:34Study. In our U. S. Study, as you recall, in a patient population that was not super selective or enriched as we have in SOLAR at the 6 month point per protocol, 100% of patients were rescue free. And again, I repeat per protocol at 6 months, a 100% of patients were rescue free in the ex paclit arm. Speaker 200:23:59So this gives us a great deal of confidence based on our data that in this patient population, which has been derisked and selected and enriched that those numbers will not only stand, but actually will be even better. As I said early on, there is one comparator arm and that is not for a statistical analysis that is purely for purposes. But given the data that we have from the U. S. Study, we are very confident in the non inferiority outcome of SIRAR. Speaker 600:24:33Makes sense. Thank you. And maybe I can add a follow-up here. So now your wet AMD trials are well on track to advance, wondering how should we think about the next step of actually in diabetic retinopathy? What would be the key learnings on trial design from your discussion with FDA on wet AMD trial designs and also the Doctor trial design in the space overall? Speaker 600:24:57Thanks. Speaker 200:24:59Kelly, thank you again for that question. I want to be very clear. We as a company have made our priorities about as transparent and about as clear as possible. Our priority is SOL-one and SOLAR. Our priority is to get this drug to patients as quickly as possible and have the potential to be approved as quickly as possible. Speaker 200:25:23We are thrilled with the Healios data set. This comes as the next priority. To be clear, we have not had a formal meeting with the FDA regarding the non proliferative diabetic retinopathy study. However, our intention is to do so. The take home messages from HELIOS-two, the first one is that the results of Helios, which I think are quite remarkable, which is that as we mentioned earlier that every single metric, every single parameter is absolutely aligned in favor of the drug. Speaker 200:26:00And that's quite remarkable given the variability of this patient population. I don't think there's any doubt whatsoever that the drug is active, that it's safe, and that is absolutely working at 48 weeks with a single injection of patients with non proliferative diabetic retinopathy. The take home message is that we have a clear path forward to target this disease for which right now effectively there is no drug and patients are going blind. The vision threatening complication rate as you know is 20% to 30% year upon year. So the first take home message is that there's a clear path forward for us into this target. Speaker 200:26:41The second important is that there is a great line of sight that is database that should give us confidence based on Helios for the success of SOL-one and SOLAR in terms of the activity of this drug. So I think those are the 2 take home messages. Speaker 600:27:00Thanks again, Praveen. Speaker 200:27:02Thank you, Kelly. Operator00:27:05Our next question is from Sean McCutcheon of Raymond James. Speaker 700:27:12Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. So maybe to pick on the SOLAR comparator arm a bit more and understanding that the 8 megabliterset is for masking only, but what strategic significance do you think it plays that you will have these data in hand and your competitors presumably will not? Does this give you optionality on the marketing front or maybe to widen the lens a bit? Can you just walk us through the decision process as you design the study with your investigators? Speaker 700:27:41Thanks. Speaker 200:27:42Tom, thank you. Good morning and thank you for your question. The first goal here is to make sure that from a regulatory point of view, we're about as clear as possible and as aligned as possible with the FDA requirements. I believe we've achieved that with the comparator arm. And as you rightly stated, the comparator arm is purely for masking, not for statistical analysis. Speaker 200:28:05That is the first goal. In terms of what the read through from a commercial point of view, we will be able to show here a comparison with what may be considered the next generation of EYLEA product, which is high dose EYLEA. And I think that will be very valuable for physicians. Most importantly, when taken in its totality, when you look at SOL-one and SOLAR, SOL-one is a superiority study. Solar will give us a great deal of information as to the durability of the single injection of ax paclit. Speaker 200:28:44So LAR is a repeat non inferiority study. It gives us information regarding repeatability. It allows for flexibility of dosing and it gives us a commercial information in regards to how our drug does, which we are very confident about with both the 2 milligram of flivirasat as well as high dose EYLEA. So I think taken in its totality, most of the questions accumulation of the data in both studies. Operator00:29:24And we'll take our next question from Yi Chen of H. C. Wainwright. Speaker 100:29:31Thank you for taking my questions. With respect the SOLAR trial, do you currently have an estimate as to when the trial could complete enrollment? And also for the 5 loading doses, does that apply to both patients who failed at randomization in the SOW-one trial as well as patients who directly enrolled into the SOW-one trial? Thank you. Speaker 200:29:55Keith, thank you again. Good morning and thank you for your question. We have not given any guidelines as to when we expect Solar to be recruited. Regarding your second question, one of the really important requirements that I had for SOLAR was that not only it's not cannibalized patients from SOLAR-one, but it actually helped the recruitment in SUL-one. Now we're recruiting extraordinarily well in SUL-one, I want to emphasize that, but we always want to have more traffic in that study. Speaker 200:30:32So you are correct. Initially, right now, what we're doing is we're only recruiting those patients who screen fail in SOL-one into SOLAR. Now, why may they screen fail? Well, the most common reason may be that they simply may not get, for instance, a 10 letter gain. They may only get an 8 or 9 letter gain. Speaker 200:30:55And then there will be a place for them to go, which is so large. It will absolutely increase the traffic and the recruitment of Solar One. Once we are certain that Solar One is either recruited or about to be recruited, we control the switch and this is really important. We control the switch to now say patients who are being recruited for SOLAR and no longer need to come from SOLAR-one screen failures that may come from the outside. But the way the study is designed, the fact that we control that switch is really important to understand, which is that as required, so large will only help the recruitment of Sol 1 and never cannibalize on the recruitment of SOL-one. Speaker 200:31:46For study sites, this is really important. It's really important for studies as you probably saw in that quote from Doctor. Oh, that they're able to tell patients, this is a great study, we'd like you to be recruited for this study and the study coordinators and the physicians will have the confidence that pretty much all patients will qualify for 1 or the other study. That is a really important fact for all study centers. Thank you for your question. Operator00:32:19We'll take a question from Jon Wollibin of Citizens Speaker 500:32:25JMP. Hi. This is Catherine on for John. I just have quick question about, so recruitment, just kind of follow-up, so one recruitment, just follow-up. Have you guys updated how many patients have been randomized? Speaker 500:32:39I know there was an update during the Investor Day. And also any guidance on the screen failure rate? Speaker 200:32:45Yes. Thank you for the question and good morning. What we did in Investor Day was to show that this team that we had assembled, what we call the Dream Team, was not just there in name, but was actually functioning extremely well and working extremely hard. And to do so, we actually provided data. And what we showed that in 2 short months, we absolutely exceeded the expectations of recruitment. Speaker 200:33:14What we said was that 151 patients had been recruited and were in various stages of loading and randomization. We have not given you any further granularity as to that. What we have said also is that the spleen failure rate is lower than we anticipated and modeled and that we're very pleased with that. And given that, our expectation is that most of the patients eventually in SOLAR will come from the outside and not necessarily from the screen failures of SOLAR-one because the screen failure rate is so low. That guidance also has not changed. Speaker 200:33:59As you know, as I said earlier, when you reach a critical mass, you enter an exponential phase of recruitment and we are in that phase. We are very, very pleased with the recruitment of Solar One And our belief is now with the execution of Solar that pace of recruitment will be even further accelerated. And we certainly will give you milestones when appropriate. Thanks for your question. Speaker 500:34:26Thank Operator00:34:30you. This concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back to Doctor. Praveen Duggal for closing remarks. Speaker 200:34:38Thank you very much. And I'd like to thank everyone for taking the time to join our call today. We look forward to updating you on our progress. If you have any follow-up questions, please reach out to Bill Slattery, our Vice President of Investor Relations. Have a great day, and you may now disconnect the call. Speaker 200:34:58Thank you. Operator00:35:01This does conclude the Ocular Therapeutics' Q2 2024 earnings conference call. Everyone now can disconnect and have a great day.Read morePowered by