Sprott Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 7, 2024

There are 5 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Sprott Inc. 2024 Second Quarter Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session.

Operator

Instructions will be provided at that time for you to queue up for questions. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today, August 7, 2024. On behalf of the speakers that follow, listeners are cautioned that today's presentation and the responses to questions may contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provision of the Canadian provisional securities laws. Forward looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and uncertainties and not be placed on such statements. Certain material factors are assumptions are implied in making forward looking statements and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in such statements.

Operator

For additional information about factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from expectations and about material factors or assumptions applied in making forward looking statements, please consult the MD and A for the quarter of Sprott's other filings and the Canadian and U. S. Security regulators. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Whitney George.

Operator

Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. On the call with me today is our CFO, Kevin Hibbert and John Ciampaoglia, CEO of Sprott Asset Management. Our 2024 second quarter results were released this morning and are available on our website where you can also find the financial statements and MD and A. I'll start on Slide 4. Before I get into our results for the quarter, I'd like to comment briefly on the recent turmoil in the markets and the world at large.

Speaker 1

Sadly, 2 wars continue with no feasible end in the U. S. Elections has been turned on its head by the recent assassination attempt on former President Trump as well as President Biden's decision not to seek reelection. Globally, recent election results reflect a general dissatisfaction with the incumbents. On top of this, financial markets have experienced a bout of extreme volatility resulting primarily from the sudden unwinding of the yen carry trade, as well as a batch of weak economic data in the United States.

Speaker 1

At Sprott, we do our best not to be distracted by the noise. We're focused on the key long term drivers of our business, which are fundamentally unchanged. Our focus on precious metals and critical materials investments, we believe are very well positioned for the current market environment. Turning now to our results. I am pleased to report that our assets under management increased by $1,700,000,000 to $31,100,000,000 which is another record high for Scott.

Speaker 1

Subsequent to the quarter end, we added an additional $400,000,000 in assets reaching $31,500,000,000 as of August 1, 2024. However, this number has moved around a bit over the last few days due to the recent volatility across all asset classes. Gold and silver performed well in the first half of twenty twenty four. Gold recently reached a new record of $2,484 before retreating back to around $2,400 on some profit taking. Silver achieved its highest quarterly close since the Q3 of 2012 at 29.14 buoyed by gold's move, global monetary expansion policies and demand for the photovoltaic sector.

Speaker 1

We continue to note the series of new highs set in 2024 have been driven by central bank purchases and achieved with limited investor general investor participation in the precious metals sector. We continue to build out our critical material quarter with the IPO of the Sprott Fiscal Copper Trust, which is the world's 1st physical copper fund. Launching the Copper Trust was a strategic priority for Sprott and the latest addition to our critical materials investment strategies. John will talk more about that and the launch in future plans in a few minutes. After reporting net redemptions in the Q1, for the first time in more than 4 years, we returned to net sales in Q2.

Speaker 1

During the quarter, we generated $357,000,000 in net sales plus an additional $110,000,000 inflows from the Copper Trust IPO. With that, I'll pass it over to Kevin for a look at our financial results. Kevin?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Whitney, and good morning, everyone. I'll start on Slide 5, which provides a summary of our historical AUM. As Whitney noted, AUM finished the quarter at $31,100,000,000 which was up 6% from $29,400,000,000 last quarter and up 8% from $28,700,000,000 at the end of last year. On a 3 6 months ended basis, we benefited from market value appreciation in our precious metals physical trusts, net inflows across our exchange listed products mix and the launch of the physical copper trust in the quarter. Over the last 5 years, our AUM has grown by $21,800,000,000 of which 49% was attributable to net inflows, 37% was related to market value appreciation and 14% was related to acquisitions and new fund launches, demonstrating the quality and resolve of our asset base and related earnings.

Speaker 2

Subsequent to quarter end, on August 1, our AUM increased 2% to 31 point $5,000,000,000 Slide 6 provides a brief look at our 3 6 month earnings. Last year, our net income benefited from the realization of an $18,600,000 non recurring asset. Consequently, our net income this quarter of $13,400,000 was down 25% from $17,700,000 for the 3 months ended last year. On a year to date basis, net income was $24,900,000 down 2% from $25,400,000 last year. Excluding the impact of last year's realization of a non recurring asset, our 3 months ended net income was actually up $14,200,000 from the same 3 month period last year, and our 6 months ended net income was up $18,100,000 from the same 6 month period last year.

Speaker 2

Adjusted base EBITDA was $22,400,000 in the quarter, up 25% from $18,000,000 earned over the same 3 month period last year and was $42,100,000 on a 6 months ended basis, up 19% from $35,300,000 earned over the same 6 month period last year. Our 3 6 months ended results benefited from higher management fees on improved market valuations in our precious metals exchange listed products, higher commission income on increased ATM activity in our critical materials exchange listed products and higher finance income in our Private Strategy segment due to higher streaming syndication fees. Finally, slide 7 provides a few treasury and balance sheet management highlights. And as you can see, our cash and liquidity profile continues to strengthen quarter over quarter. Our leverage remains low and we will be even and will be even lower in the second half of the year as we expect to pay down more debt.

Speaker 2

For more information on our revenues, expenses, EBITDA and balance sheet metrics, you can refer to the supplemental information of this presentation as well as our quarterly MD and A and financial statements filed earlier this morning. With that said, I'll pass things over to John.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Kevin, and good morning, everybody. We enjoyed a very strong rebound in sales in Q2 as Whitney mentioned, and the positive momentum has continued since the end of the quarter. We did feel as though March marked the bottom for our business where there was a low in sentiment across a number of metals markets. And I'm pleased to report we've realized the expected rebound that we were anticipating. After a period of indifference, investor interest in precious metals is slowly returning.

Speaker 3

This is very positive for our business given gold is already sitting at $2,400 largely with institutional investors in the West not participating. Central bank buying of gold coupled with concerns about a number of potential portfolio risks is generating renewed interest, while copper is well positioned to benefit from the growing long term demand for electricity and copper intensive clean energy technologies. Let's go to the next slide. AUM growth has been strong year to date, up $2,600,000,000 with assets reaching an all time high during the quarter. Over the last 6 quarters, our AUM in this segment has increased approximately 30%, which is really great considering many markets have been somewhat range bound.

Speaker 3

On June 6, we welcomed our newest physical metals trust to our lineup with the copper trust. We're very excited about adding another metal given the compelling long term fundamentals for copper. We spent the last few years building out our product suite both organically and via acquisitions to diversify and competitively position ourselves in market segments that we believe are entering new bull markets. This diversification strategy has been very effective as metal markets do not always move in sync, allowing us to capture new assets when investor interest appears. Next slide please.

Speaker 3

Shifting over to our equity based ETFs, we enjoyed a strong recovery in sales for the quarter after a soft Q1. Our uranium mining ETFs led the pack for the quarter. In this category, we now have over 10 funds across various metal segments and listing locations and assets continue to scale for many of the newer funds as we achieve platform approvals and achieve breakeven AUM levels. Next slide please. We're very pleased with how the product suite is scaling.

Speaker 3

AUM has also reached an all time high in the quarter and has essentially doubled over the last 6 quarters. Mining Equity ETFs are popular choices for both institutional, advisor and individual investors as many prefer to invest in a thematic through a basket of stocks. Many of the ETFs we offer track indices that Sprott has co developed with index providers such as NASDAQ that integrate our knowledge and experience as long time investors in metals and mining. This allows us to provide differentiated offerings that represent more pure play

Speaker 1

options

Speaker 3

Copper Trust IPO. The market environment for IPOs remains very challenging with COP representing the 1st IPO on the Toronto Stock Exchange since March 2023. Gross proceeds raised were $110,000,000 with 80% of the assets coming from institutions. Of the institutional participation, approximately 80% were existing investors in other Sprott Funds and or our holders of Sprott Inc. Stock.

Speaker 3

And we'd like to thank these institutions for their continued support in helping us get this IPO off the ground. We're very excited about the long term growth potential of the Copper Trust, given the size of the market and the broader appeal of copper amongst generalist investors. We've been talking to investors for 3 years now about uranium and I would say that 80% of the time there's also dual interest in copper as well. We've recently implemented an at the market program to raise additional capital and our plan is to ramp up marketing investor outreach over the coming months. And with that, I will pass it over to Whitney.

Speaker 1

Thanks, John. Well, I'll turn to Slide 13 now, managed equities. While gold and silver enjoyed a strong first half of the year, the mining equities have stubbornly lagged the metals themselves. Investor sentiment towards the miners is at historically low levels and a small rotation out of tech stocks into precious metals equities would have a profoundly positive impact on the sector. Despite the lack of investor interest, we are pleased with the strong performance of our precious metals equity strategies in the first half of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1

Our flagship gold equity fund is up approximately 20% as of August 1st and its performance has been steadily improving relative to its peer group. I'll turn now to Slide 14 for a look at our private strategies. Combined lending and streaming strategies AUM was $2,500,000,000 as of June 30, 2024. The team is continuing to monitor and harvest investments in our 2nd private lending fund and is actively assessing new investment opportunities in our Lending Fund III. We are also pleased with the early investor response to our active physical commodity strategy, which was launched late last year.

Speaker 1

Slide 15. I'll move now to Slide 15 for closing remarks. Despite the recent volatility in the markets, little has changed from our outlook that we presented at the start of 2024. As expected, inflation remained a bit stickier than most had hoped for the first half of the year. While many countries have begun to cut interest rates, in the U.

Speaker 1

S. Short term rates are unchanged, although expectations have fluctuated wildly over the last 6 months. Once again, the Fed appears to be behind the curve and is only now edging towards a September cut. Fiscal deficits continue to grow to new non recessionary records as a percentage of U. S.

Speaker 1

GDP. And as noted at the start of the call, wars and elections are creating geopolitical uncertainty. Fortunately, gold prices have responded favorably to these difficult fundamentals, setting several new highs before settling close to the 2,400 mark, at least for the time being. We're pleased with our performance in the first half of twenty twenty four. AUM is near record highs.

Speaker 1

We delivered positive net sales in the first half of the year. The top of the year results are steadily improving. Despite some recent weakness in uranium and copper prices, which we expect to be short lived, our critical materials strategy are capturing market share in a rapidly growing category. We appreciate the continued support of our clients and shareholders and feel confident their trust will be rewarded in the quarters and years ahead. That would conclude our remarks for today's call.

Speaker 1

I'll now turn it over to the operator for some Q and A. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Mike Kozak with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Yes. Good morning, everybody. Thank you. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on a great quarter. Just one question from me on the uranium trust.

Speaker 4

Other than the ATM, what other levers could you potentially pull to keep the cash position up in that trust? I mean, you've done location swaps in the past, I believe. Could these be ramped up in any way? And if you needed to, are there any other alternative methods to raising cash in the uranium trust specifically?

Speaker 3

Yes. Hi, Mike. It's John. That's an interesting question. So obviously, the ATM is the primary way to issue new units and receive cash.

Speaker 3

As you mentioned, we've done a number of location and origin swaps over the last 3 years, which have been very beneficial in terms of generating additional income. And the last resort, if those two things don't work out, is we physically would sell a small portion of uranium, which we've not had to do in 3 years. So we prudently manage the cash so that we don't have to let go of any of our material. And right now we're holding, I think, a sufficient cash balance to cover expenses of running the trust for the next few months. So it's not anything of near term concern.

Speaker 4

Got it. Very good. That's helpful. Thanks. I'll turn it back.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Whitney for closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you everyone for participating on this call, particularly on a very quiet August summer day. We appreciate your interest in Sprott and look forward to speaking to you again after our Q3 results. Thanks again. And that concludes our

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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