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Earnings HistoryForecast biote EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.14Consensus EPS $0.09Beat/MissBeat by +$0.05One Year Ago EPSN/Abiote Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$49.17 millionExpected Revenue$50.40 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.23 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/Abiote Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/8/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, August 8, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming Earningsbiote's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by biote Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 8, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Bioty Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Speaker 100:00:09Conference Call. Operator00:00:30Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Simon Serovetski, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:41Thank you for joining us today. This afternoon, BioSeed published financial results for the Q2 ended June 30, 2024. This news release is available in the Investor Relations section of the company's website. Terry Weber, Chief Executive Officer and Bob Peterson, Chief Financial Officer will host today's call. Speaker 300:00:59Before we Speaker 200:00:59get started, I would like to remind everyone that management will make statements during this call that include forward looking statements regarding, among other things, the company's financial results, future performance and growth opportunities, business outlook, strategies, goals, region development, manufacturing and commercialization activities, regulatory process operations, the effect of macroeconomic conditions on its business, relative operations, financial conditions and other matters. These statements are not guarantees of future performance. They are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond the company's control. Actual results could differ materially from expectations reflected in any forward looking statements. These statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are based on management's current expectations as of today. Speaker 200:01:43BioTelete undertakes no obligation to update them in the future. Therefore, these statements should not be relied upon as presented to the company's views as of any subsequent date. For a discussion of risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to our SEC filings available on the SEC's website and the Investor Relations section of our website, as well as risks and other important factors discussed in the earnings release. Management will also refer to adjusted EBITDA, which is a non GAAP financial measure to provide additional information to investors. Reconciliation of the non GAAP to GAAP measure is provided in earnings release with the primary differences being stock based compensation, fair value adjustments to certain liabilities, transaction related expenses and other non operating expenses. Speaker 200:02:23Please refer to our Q2 2024 earnings release for reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA to net income, the closest comparable GAAP measure. I will now turn the call over to Terri Weber. Speaker 400:02:33Thank you, Simon, and thank you all for joining us. On the call with me today is Bob Peterson, our Chief Financial Officer, who will review our financial results and discuss our outlook for 2024. Mark Beer, our Executive Chairman, is also on today's call to help answer your questions during the Q and A session following our prepared remarks. IoT generated solid financial performance in the Q2, highlighted by a sequential increase in procedure revenue growth. This improvement reflected our strategic focus on driving growth from our top tier accounts, expanding our practitioner network and optimizing new clinic success through our Quick Start program. Speaker 400:03:20In the first half of twenty twenty four, approximately 30% more new clinics on a year over year basis with significant growth in new clinics achieving quick starts. We have found that the early success generated by clinics that achieve quick start status translates into stronger clinic performance over time. As a result, we continue to work closely with our new providers to optimize the launch of their hormone and therapeutic wellness practices. We also achieved solid gross profit and adjusted EBITDA, even as we selectively increased our investments in key marketing and sales initiatives to enhance our long term growth opportunities. These investments included our annual provider conference, where we strengthened engagement with our top practitioners. Speaker 400:04:11We spent 2.5 days with over 500 practitioners teaching advanced concepts and therapeutic wellness. Even with these strategic investments, we remain on track to achieve our 2024 financial guidance. The phased launch of BioTRx across our network continues to progress with approximately 600 clinics now enrolled. We believe our BioTRx platform represents a unique and differentiated approach to care in the hormone and therapeutic wellness market. In addition to an expanded range of products and treatments, BioTRx supports practitioners with a comprehensive portfolio of advanced technical tools, support, training and educational resources, which we believe separates us from our competitors. Speaker 400:05:05Over the next several weeks, we will introduce several major enhancements to the BioTE method, expanding our science based approach to care. With these enhancements, we're confident that BIO T will enable practitioners to deliver an even higher level, the holistic personalized medicine for their patients. 1st, we'll expand our wellness lab panels to utilize the latest technology, liquid chromatography and mass spectrometry for blood sample analysis. These additional lab panels broaden our testing capabilities while providing greater testing sensitivity and accuracy. These advantages will enable practitioners to provide more precise dosing that addresses a wider range of treatments and delivers better health outcomes for patients. Speaker 400:05:56To further enhance clinical decision making, we will update our proprietary software with new functionality to deliver even more individualized precision patient care. For example, our updated clinical decision support software features enhanced algorithms for ongoing patient management, continuously adapting to a patient's evolving health needs. We are also broadening our BioTRx offerings across key therapeutic categories. We will introduce new offerings in the areas of body composition, sexual wellness, non pellet hormone optimization and thyroid and autoimmune conditions. These new products complement our existing therapies, elevating our value proposition and enabling more comprehensive patient care. Speaker 400:06:50Finally, we will further bolster our support for practitioners with enhanced tools and procedures, including a new trocar for pellet delivery and new techniques for pellet insertion. As always, Bioty will continue to provide an unmatched level of education and training, covering a broad spectrum of hormone and therapeutic wellness. The integration of Asteria Health into our operations continues to progress smoothly. We've been pleased with the positive feedback we're hearing from our practitioners who value the capabilities that Hysteria Health adds to our business. As we continue the integration process, we remain focused on expanding Asteria Health's licenses to additional states, as well as driving long term manufacturing cost efficiencies. Speaker 400:07:42During the Q2, we were pleased to conclude outstanding litigation with 2 large shareholders. These agreements eliminate the time and expense associated with litigation and build long term shareholder value through significant share repurchases. Bob will provide more information in his remarks. In summary, BIO T continues to make solid progress in advancing our strategic objectives and we remain on track to deliver our 2024 financial guidance. I'll now turn the call over to Bob to discuss our Q2 financial results and provide our outlook for 2024. Speaker 500:08:26Thank you, Terry, and good afternoon, everyone. Total revenue in the Q2 was $49,200,000 essentially flat year over year and consistent with our expectations. Procedure revenue growth increased 7.8%, increasing sequentially from the 6.6% growth rate reported in the Q1 of 2024. 2nd quarter procedure revenue growth was broad based across our network and primarily driven by growth from our top tier clinics. Our performance also benefited from approximately 30% growth in new clinics over the past 12 months. Speaker 500:09:07As Terry mentioned previously, many of these newly added clinics have successfully implemented our Quick Start program that accelerates new procedure revenue streams. As expected, 2nd quarter dietary supplement revenue decreased 32.2% year over year as we continued the transition of our e commerce business and lapped a significant seasonal promotion in last year's Q2. Consistent with our timeline, we began managing distribution of several key products previously delivered from our former distributor at the end of the Q2. While we continue to work down inventory of certain nutraceuticals from our prior distributor, we expect overall nutraceutical revenue to resume year over year growth in the second half of this year. 2nd quarter gross profit margin was 68.9 percent, a 100 basis point increase from the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 500:10:17Gross profit of $33,900,000 in the Q2 of 2024 included a $1,200,000 step up in inventory value related to the acquisition of Asteria Health. Excluding this inventory revaluation, 2nd quarter 2024 gross profit margin would have been 70.9%. The year over year improvement in gross profit margin reflected product mix and effective cost management. As expected, we anticipate consolidated gross profit margin will revert to historical levels as nutraceutical sales resume year over year growth in the second half. Consistent with our expectations, selling, general and administrative costs were $27,600,000 compared to $25,800,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 500:11:16Operating expenses increased from the prior year primarily due to planned strategic investments in sales and marketing, including our annual provider event. As a result, 2nd quarter operating income was $6,200,000 compared to $7,700,000 in the prior year quarter. Net loss in the 2nd quarter was $10,500,000 inclusive of a $13,900,000 loss due to a change in the fair value of the earn out liability. This compares to a net loss of $13,100,000 in the Q2 of 2023, which included a $6,400,000 loss due to the net change in fair value of the earn out liability and an $11,800,000 loss due to the net change in fair value of the warrant liability. During the Q2, we selectively increased our investments in sales and marketing to strengthen engagement with our top providers, expand our therapeutic wellness offerings and further our geographic expansion. Speaker 500:12:32Largely due to these investments, 2nd quarter adjusted EBITDA decreased 12.4% from the prior year to $12,700,000 with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 25.9%. This compares to adjusted EBITDA of $14,500,000 with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 29.5% in the prior year period. While we continue to make investments aligned with our growth strategy, we anticipate our overall operating expenses will moderate in the second half of this year as compared to the first half. 2nd quarter operating cash flow was approximately $17,300,000 As Terry noted and has previously announced, Bioty concluded litigation with 2 large shareholders during the Q2. These settlements include significant share repurchases and the release and cancellation of earn out shares for no additional consideration. Speaker 500:13:41Under the terms of these settlements, Bioty repurchased the 1st tranche of shares from Doctor. Gary Donovitz for $32,200,000 in April. Subsequently in June, Bioty repurchased the 1st tranche of shares from Marcy Donovitz for $30,000,000 After the repurchase of the first tranches, Bioty has agreed to repurchase the remaining 14,400,000 shares over the next 3 years. Largely because of these share repurchases, cash and cash equivalents at the end of the Q2 of 2024 were $26,400,000 down from $78,800,000 at the end of the Q1 of 2024. Moving forward, we will continue to prudently manage our operating cash flow to assist funding settlement related share repurchases while maintaining our capital allocation discipline. Speaker 500:14:43Turning to our financial outlook for fiscal 2024, we reiterate our previously reported guidance with revenue of $200,000,000 to $204,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $60,000,000 to $63,000,000 At a high level, our 2024 sales guidance reflects our expectations for improving procedure revenue growth in the second half and a return to year over year growth in nutraceutical sales. On the expense side, we anticipate moderation in the second half operating expenses as compared to the first half. Strengthening procedure revenue growth in the second half of twenty twenty four relative to the first half is expected to be driven by 3 factors. 1, improving performance from our top tier clinics 2, the continued expansion of our existing practitioner network and 3, a growing contribution from new clinics, including continued growth in clinics implementing Quick Starts. Now I'll turn the call back to Teri for her closing comments. Speaker 400:15:57Thank you, Bob. Bioty generated solid financial performance in the Q2, and we are on track to achieve our financial and strategic objectives for the year. We continue to progressively rollout BioTRx across our network with plans to add new capabilities to better serve both patients and practitioners. We also continue to integrate Asteria Health, which improves our manufacturing efficiency and offers new opportunities for growth over time. Finally, we have enhanced long term shareholder value by concluding outstanding litigation and committing to significant share repurchases on favorable terms. Speaker 400:16:41We remain focused on driving profitable growth as we strive to become the leading single source provider of evidence based therapeutic wellness solutions. And now, I'd like to open the call for questions. Operator, please begin the question and answer session. Operator00:16:59We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Lee Silolsky with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:17:28Yes. Good evening, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. So Terry, I didn't hear much commentary around your weight loss program and your strategy. Can you just perhaps maybe highlight now that we've heard some of the branded GLP-1s coming off of the shortage list, essentially how does that impact your Speaker 300:17:54I guess there's limitations Speaker 600:17:54from presentations will be no longer available on the I guess there's limitations from presentations will be no longer available on the drug shortage list? And I have a follow-up. Speaker 400:18:02Wow, that's a mouthful. So I'll break it into the pieces. So let me give you a context and a framework for our BioTRx and our use of the GLP-1s. BioTRx. It has a full complement of therapeutic wellness products, which includes the GLP-1s. Speaker 400:18:23And it includes that both in the trisapatide and semiglutide that are both being produced because of the by compounders because of the shortage list. So for us, it's a piece of a formula with a lot of other products that allow that one stop shop at Biotie. So we have a platform that allows those providers to order the product easily delivered on very short SLAs. It's part of a performance piece on therapeutic wellness and it's just a couple of the products. So we're not concerned about this. Speaker 400:19:00The platform is working well. There's a lot of adoption. So it's proceeding very well. And that we can talk a little bit about what's happened even this week on these two products. So right now, if you look at the shortage and why compounders can manufacture, it's the shortage list. Speaker 400:19:18And the FDA considers the following criteria before removing a drug from the shortage list. 1st, whether the manufacturer is able to meet the total national historical demand. And you can report on the amount of that national demand even within the last year on both of the formulations. The second part is whether the manufacturer can verify that it has built enough safety stock for the drugs. You also have other considerations as to whether prescribers or patients have the availability of the drug or if there's still that type of a shortage. Speaker 400:19:58So it's quite a long process. And the only person that determines whether it goes off shortage is the FDA. And if our audience has listened and probably hasn't to the earnings recordings from both Eli Lilly and Novo Novartis that produce the 2 branded products of the trussapatide and the semiglutide, both companies address the fact that they had difficulty meeting demand and that these certain dosage of their drugs come in and out of supply. Alilly announced that there'll be intermittent supply disruptions for drugs such as ZEPT bound and demand may result in periodic supply tightness at different levels at dosage levels. So when we look at this, it looks as if certainly for Novo Novartis, they announced that they'll continue restricting supplies of their starter doses in the U. Speaker 400:21:04S. Market to ensure patients who start the treatment can continue this treatment. So in our estimation and these drugs will remain on shortage for a period of time. There's many options. New drugs are being developed in the GLP-one space as we speak. Speaker 400:21:23So compounders will be allowed to do the ones that are on shortage. And for us, we're not concerned about it in our model. We just want to make sure that our doctors get an easy access to it and a consistent supply. So our platform offers that. And I hope I've given you some insights into why that is not a big concern for us. Speaker 400:21:44I'll also remind you that we get paid a tech platform fee for accessing the our platform, which offers the other formulations as well in therapeutic wellness. So this is just part of our long term therapeutic wellness focus. Speaker 600:22:02Excellent color. I mean, very helpful. Perhaps just to maybe build on that in some sense on the Asteria facility, you've mentioned before you're looking to add a production line on the compounded GLP-one. Is that still in the works? When can we kind of expect that to be operational? Speaker 600:22:21And then I guess my last question is, what percentage of your physicians are in the medical spa setting? And then I guess how many operate at a virtual setting? Thank you. Speaker 400:22:33Good questions. Three questions there. So number 1 on Asteria, we are looking to expanding our space at Asteria and after we're making sure that we can meet all the production need in our integration, we're very focused on manufacturing the other GLP-one products. So I'd be looking to 2025 for that manufacturer and that impact. Your second question, want to repeat that real quick? Speaker 600:23:02Have number percentage of physicians in the Have number percentage of physicians in the medical spa setting and in virtual? Speaker 400:23:08So the medical spa setting, so our practitioners in the medical spa setting have all supervising practitioners. They're usually an arm of an OBGYN or an internist who has a wellness practice next to their traditional practice. So it's a way that that's structured that really allows us to have very good supervising practitioners. And I would certainly say, less than 10%. And on the virtual end, we have very few that have they have a virtual component of their practice, but they're all practitioners with clinics. Speaker 400:23:45So we don't, at this point, service just any completely virtual group. Speaker 600:23:53Great. Thank you. Operator00:23:56And the next question comes from Jonah Kim with TD Cowen. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:24:01Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Curious about the marketing and investments that you've made this quarter. It looks like a step up there. Should we expect similar level of marketing and investments for the remainder of the year? Speaker 400:24:14And just a follow-up to that, how are you measuring your success of spend? And just going forward, how we think about your investment plans? Thank you so much. So what Biot looks to do, Jonna, is to really engage long term with these practitioners, so they keep decades of an involvement with us. So what we invested in this year is that enhancement to our clinical decision support software. Speaker 400:24:41So you'll not only have that clinical decision support software doing an excellent job of hormone optimization, it includes now therapeutic wellness products from our BioTRx. So that's an investment in growing engagement with those providers. Now this is new science and its innovations. And so that large meeting that we had that had so many of our providers, our key large providers, we spent 2.5 days educating them off-site on these new therapeutic wellness products and where the science is going. So that was a large investment in Q2, but all of these should do a very solid ROI on both the enhancement to the Tier 1 clinics and our largest providers, as well as taking us into that next generation where we have no we very much are differentiated from competition. Speaker 500:25:39And Jonas, just to add a little bit to that, as we look at our OpEx, typically it's higher in Q2. And as Terry mentioned, several of the expenses to really support sales, marketing and other customer related expenditures were planned in Q2, as Terry mentioned. And I Speaker 100:25:57would just tell you when Speaker 500:25:57we think about the investments that we're looking to continue to deploy, I mean, whether it's practitioner engagement, modernization of our data systems and data analytics, I would tell you all of those are really supporting what Terry is saying to review that ROI of the spends that we deploy. Speaker 400:26:17Got it. And just one follow-up is, have you seen any notable changes or anything to call out quarter to date trends versus 2nd quarter? And just what gives you confidence in the second half inflection embedded in your guidance? Thank you. Speaker 500:26:34Yes. So right now, I think when we look at Q2 revenue, the improved growth from a sequential perspective on procedure revenue. It was consistent with our year to date guidance. We were expecting that uptick. We don't give quarterly guidance. Speaker 500:26:56So we continue to anticipate second half performance with will strengthen versus the first half. But we're focused really on our key trends, which as we mentioned during the call, growth in our top tier accounts, new customer growth, specifically with improving the quick starts and neutral growth in the second half, which should show positive momentum. Operator00:27:25And the next question comes from Jeff Van Sinderen with B. Riley Securities. Speaker 700:27:33Hello. This is Richard Magnuson in for Jeff Van Sinderen. Thank you for taking our call. First off, you did mention quickly state licenses. And I was wondering if you could provide more color on where you are exactly with obtaining all the various state licenses? Speaker 500:27:50Yes. So we've made pretty good progress as it relates as you can as you look at the entirety of Vysteria, we keep on applying for new licenses. It's constantly in flux. And I would just say, we're obtaining those licenses as planned. And we continue to work with our teams to diligently progress forward in that area. Speaker 500:28:14So I would say we're approaching about the halfway mark of the licenses that we are looking to obtain with a whole handful coming over the next quarter, quarter and a half. Speaker 700:28:29Okay. And then my next question is, previously you talked about the doctors, they were a little bit maybe stubborn to migrate towards your new platform from what they were used to. Some of it was because they had more inventory from previous sources. And so my question is, have they depleted that as far as you know or a lot of it? And the other aspect was that they were reluctant to move away from the legacy sources and were testing the BioTE as a source with smaller orders until they feel comfortable with BioTE. Speaker 700:29:03Has this situation meaningfully improved? Or what can you tell us about that? Speaker 400:29:10Yes, it's meaningfully improved. We've been adding new doctors because new state licenses are coming in for our Bio TRx. So we've been adding practitioners. They've been increasing their orders. They're seeing the consistency of the delivery time and the quality of the product. Speaker 400:29:27So all that's going very well. And what I'm excited about is these new clinics that we've got are becoming it's It's not just GLP-1s. They're not just shopping GLP-1s, but they're learning the business and depending on us for their supply and used to using our platforms. So the strategy is working very well. Speaker 700:29:54All right. Thank you. Operator00:29:58And the next question comes from George Kelly with Roth Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:30:04Hey, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple for you. First on Asteria, curious how much of your production is running through there and what is your expectation for year end? Speaker 500:30:20Yes. So the way that I would look at this, George, I mean, we've talked a little bit about the state licenses. We are at a point now where from a production perspective, we've built the capabilities to meet the needs in the short term and probably in the medium term by building additional machinery, installing additional machinery. And I think we're at a point now where we scaled up well and we're building the inventory and producing enough really to make sure that we have enough inventory to meet our future demand. Speaker 300:30:57So I guess the next part of that question is, so are you anticipating a meaningful step up in gross margin in the back half just based on that production flowing through Asteria? Speaker 500:31:11So the way that we're looking at this, I mean, as you look at the 3 different facets, so there let's just take a little bit of a step back and I'll touch on the gross margin piece. So as you can imagine, when you onboard a function like Asteria into Bioty, you need to be really focused on doing each facet quite well. 1, as we just already mentioned, was the state licenses. Number 2 is really trying to phase in and work towards the conversion of these additional states that we get access to. And what we're finding is that we're working quite well with our commercial teams and very strategically to work through this process to ensure a smooth transition. Speaker 500:31:55And we're succeeding in this process. So I think that's good. We already also touched on the last piece, which is building that inventory. So clearly Asteria is an important piece and a strategic part of our overall capabilities within Biotie. As we transition, we'll begin to operationalize and operationally transition pellets into the different clinics. Speaker 500:32:21As procedures start to occur and these pellets are implanted, This will be more of a as we start to progress through this, this will enable a more phased approach through the second half of the year. And the financial impact on gross margin has been factored into our 2024 adjusted EBITDA guidance range. Speaker 300:32:44Okay. And then 2 other quick ones. In your prepared remarks, you mentioned that you expect SG and A to moderate in the back half versus what you just reported in the first half. Can you be more specific? Does that mean that you expect absolute SG and A dollars to decline in the back half versus the first half? Speaker 300:33:05Or what does that mean? Speaker 500:33:08No. So here's the way I would look at it. So we our core expenses to really remain flat. We don't see any material shifts in the business, but we are going to continue to spend additional funds on revenue generating activities. We don't have any big expenses like the Sun and Sea events that Terry mentioned that we had in Q2. Speaker 500:33:31But we're going to continue to spend on new customer trainings, Amazon demand generating activities and development of new and existing customer growth. So the moderation is really baked in also into that guidance. Speaker 300:33:48Okay. Speaker 500:33:49Does that address your question? Speaker 300:33:52Yes, I think so. I'm just trying to sort of triangulate into your EBITDA guide. And it implies a fairly significant step up in EBITDA margin in the back half. And so I'm just trying to figure out like what's is that a gross margin thing or an SG and A thing? I don't know if there's a way to sort of get to that. Speaker 300:34:14If not, that's okay. Speaker 500:34:18No, I think no, I would just tell you right now, we do expect that moderation. And I would just say, as we look at gross margin in the second half, I would say we're kind of we are going to be guiding towards the high end of our historical range, so in that upper 60s range. So that can give you kind of a little bit of a guide to where we're going on that front. Speaker 300:34:47Okay, understood. Thank you. Operator00:34:51And the next question comes from Kamil Gajrawala with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:34:58Hey, guys. Good evening. Couple, I guess, follow ups from some of your answers to other questions. On the state licensing, can you maybe just give an update or an idea of maybe how many states are left and if any particularly large states or ones where you recently became licensed? Speaker 500:35:20Well, I would tell you that the just overall the state licenses that we've been approved in match up fairly well to our existing footprint. And I would just say that we are continuing I think I can say with we've applied for nearly all states and they're varying phases of the approval process. Speaker 100:35:52Okay. Got it. And on I guess as a follow-up a little bit to the last question is, was the step up in marketing simply the big event? And we're just looking at more of a run rate over the rest of the year? Was there an actual in addition to the event, a few things that were incremental that stepped up the investment dollars? Speaker 500:36:15Yes. I would just say that the Sunsea event is a pretty material event. And I would say that that is probably one of the largest drivers. I would say that there's a combination, as I mentioned, as we look at optimizing our sales force, doing the engaging with our practitioners, improving our data systems. There are other smaller items along the way, but you've really hit the big one. Speaker 400:36:44Yes. Camille, I think one of the things is that investment in the people. We're going to therapeutic wellness and taking all of our providers to a much more evidence based science as we look into therapeutic wellness. So we invested in our educators. Those are our practitioners who teach for us and we educated in their ability to teach and revamping the training program. Speaker 400:37:08So I really want to invite you and people in the audience that this is the new training in the fall for this therapeutic wellness is a significant step up. And we invested in the instructors, the materials and the whole education process to really make it a very strong interactive experience for our new providers and those that are coming back for additional training. Speaker 100:37:33Got it. Sounds like a good time. We'll look out for an invite. Thanks guys. We'll talk soon. Operator00:37:41This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Terri Weber for any closing remarks. Speaker 400:37:50Thank you everyone for joining us today. We appreciate the interest in Bioty and we really look forward to updating you on our progress in therapeutic wellness on our next conference call. Operator00:38:06The conference has now concluded. 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The company offers Biote Method, a comprehensive end-to-end practice building platform that provides Biote-certified practitioners with the components developed for practitioners in the hormone optimization space comprising Biote Method education, training, and certification services; practice management software that allows Biote-certified practitioners to order, track, and manage hormone optimization product inventory and other administrative requirements; inventory management software to monitor pellet inventory; and information regarding available hormone replacement therapy products, as well as digital and point-of-care marketing support. It also sells dietary supplements under the Biote brand; and sterile pellet insertion kits that is used with hormone optimization therapies for male and female. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Bioty Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Speaker 100:00:09Conference Call. Operator00:00:30Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Simon Serovetski, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:41Thank you for joining us today. This afternoon, BioSeed published financial results for the Q2 ended June 30, 2024. This news release is available in the Investor Relations section of the company's website. Terry Weber, Chief Executive Officer and Bob Peterson, Chief Financial Officer will host today's call. Speaker 300:00:59Before we Speaker 200:00:59get started, I would like to remind everyone that management will make statements during this call that include forward looking statements regarding, among other things, the company's financial results, future performance and growth opportunities, business outlook, strategies, goals, region development, manufacturing and commercialization activities, regulatory process operations, the effect of macroeconomic conditions on its business, relative operations, financial conditions and other matters. These statements are not guarantees of future performance. They are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond the company's control. Actual results could differ materially from expectations reflected in any forward looking statements. These statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are based on management's current expectations as of today. Speaker 200:01:43BioTelete undertakes no obligation to update them in the future. Therefore, these statements should not be relied upon as presented to the company's views as of any subsequent date. For a discussion of risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to our SEC filings available on the SEC's website and the Investor Relations section of our website, as well as risks and other important factors discussed in the earnings release. Management will also refer to adjusted EBITDA, which is a non GAAP financial measure to provide additional information to investors. Reconciliation of the non GAAP to GAAP measure is provided in earnings release with the primary differences being stock based compensation, fair value adjustments to certain liabilities, transaction related expenses and other non operating expenses. Speaker 200:02:23Please refer to our Q2 2024 earnings release for reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA to net income, the closest comparable GAAP measure. I will now turn the call over to Terri Weber. Speaker 400:02:33Thank you, Simon, and thank you all for joining us. On the call with me today is Bob Peterson, our Chief Financial Officer, who will review our financial results and discuss our outlook for 2024. Mark Beer, our Executive Chairman, is also on today's call to help answer your questions during the Q and A session following our prepared remarks. IoT generated solid financial performance in the Q2, highlighted by a sequential increase in procedure revenue growth. This improvement reflected our strategic focus on driving growth from our top tier accounts, expanding our practitioner network and optimizing new clinic success through our Quick Start program. Speaker 400:03:20In the first half of twenty twenty four, approximately 30% more new clinics on a year over year basis with significant growth in new clinics achieving quick starts. We have found that the early success generated by clinics that achieve quick start status translates into stronger clinic performance over time. As a result, we continue to work closely with our new providers to optimize the launch of their hormone and therapeutic wellness practices. We also achieved solid gross profit and adjusted EBITDA, even as we selectively increased our investments in key marketing and sales initiatives to enhance our long term growth opportunities. These investments included our annual provider conference, where we strengthened engagement with our top practitioners. Speaker 400:04:11We spent 2.5 days with over 500 practitioners teaching advanced concepts and therapeutic wellness. Even with these strategic investments, we remain on track to achieve our 2024 financial guidance. The phased launch of BioTRx across our network continues to progress with approximately 600 clinics now enrolled. We believe our BioTRx platform represents a unique and differentiated approach to care in the hormone and therapeutic wellness market. In addition to an expanded range of products and treatments, BioTRx supports practitioners with a comprehensive portfolio of advanced technical tools, support, training and educational resources, which we believe separates us from our competitors. Speaker 400:05:05Over the next several weeks, we will introduce several major enhancements to the BioTE method, expanding our science based approach to care. With these enhancements, we're confident that BIO T will enable practitioners to deliver an even higher level, the holistic personalized medicine for their patients. 1st, we'll expand our wellness lab panels to utilize the latest technology, liquid chromatography and mass spectrometry for blood sample analysis. These additional lab panels broaden our testing capabilities while providing greater testing sensitivity and accuracy. These advantages will enable practitioners to provide more precise dosing that addresses a wider range of treatments and delivers better health outcomes for patients. Speaker 400:05:56To further enhance clinical decision making, we will update our proprietary software with new functionality to deliver even more individualized precision patient care. For example, our updated clinical decision support software features enhanced algorithms for ongoing patient management, continuously adapting to a patient's evolving health needs. We are also broadening our BioTRx offerings across key therapeutic categories. We will introduce new offerings in the areas of body composition, sexual wellness, non pellet hormone optimization and thyroid and autoimmune conditions. These new products complement our existing therapies, elevating our value proposition and enabling more comprehensive patient care. Speaker 400:06:50Finally, we will further bolster our support for practitioners with enhanced tools and procedures, including a new trocar for pellet delivery and new techniques for pellet insertion. As always, Bioty will continue to provide an unmatched level of education and training, covering a broad spectrum of hormone and therapeutic wellness. The integration of Asteria Health into our operations continues to progress smoothly. We've been pleased with the positive feedback we're hearing from our practitioners who value the capabilities that Hysteria Health adds to our business. As we continue the integration process, we remain focused on expanding Asteria Health's licenses to additional states, as well as driving long term manufacturing cost efficiencies. Speaker 400:07:42During the Q2, we were pleased to conclude outstanding litigation with 2 large shareholders. These agreements eliminate the time and expense associated with litigation and build long term shareholder value through significant share repurchases. Bob will provide more information in his remarks. In summary, BIO T continues to make solid progress in advancing our strategic objectives and we remain on track to deliver our 2024 financial guidance. I'll now turn the call over to Bob to discuss our Q2 financial results and provide our outlook for 2024. Speaker 500:08:26Thank you, Terry, and good afternoon, everyone. Total revenue in the Q2 was $49,200,000 essentially flat year over year and consistent with our expectations. Procedure revenue growth increased 7.8%, increasing sequentially from the 6.6% growth rate reported in the Q1 of 2024. 2nd quarter procedure revenue growth was broad based across our network and primarily driven by growth from our top tier clinics. Our performance also benefited from approximately 30% growth in new clinics over the past 12 months. Speaker 500:09:07As Terry mentioned previously, many of these newly added clinics have successfully implemented our Quick Start program that accelerates new procedure revenue streams. As expected, 2nd quarter dietary supplement revenue decreased 32.2% year over year as we continued the transition of our e commerce business and lapped a significant seasonal promotion in last year's Q2. Consistent with our timeline, we began managing distribution of several key products previously delivered from our former distributor at the end of the Q2. While we continue to work down inventory of certain nutraceuticals from our prior distributor, we expect overall nutraceutical revenue to resume year over year growth in the second half of this year. 2nd quarter gross profit margin was 68.9 percent, a 100 basis point increase from the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 500:10:17Gross profit of $33,900,000 in the Q2 of 2024 included a $1,200,000 step up in inventory value related to the acquisition of Asteria Health. Excluding this inventory revaluation, 2nd quarter 2024 gross profit margin would have been 70.9%. The year over year improvement in gross profit margin reflected product mix and effective cost management. As expected, we anticipate consolidated gross profit margin will revert to historical levels as nutraceutical sales resume year over year growth in the second half. Consistent with our expectations, selling, general and administrative costs were $27,600,000 compared to $25,800,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 500:11:16Operating expenses increased from the prior year primarily due to planned strategic investments in sales and marketing, including our annual provider event. As a result, 2nd quarter operating income was $6,200,000 compared to $7,700,000 in the prior year quarter. Net loss in the 2nd quarter was $10,500,000 inclusive of a $13,900,000 loss due to a change in the fair value of the earn out liability. This compares to a net loss of $13,100,000 in the Q2 of 2023, which included a $6,400,000 loss due to the net change in fair value of the earn out liability and an $11,800,000 loss due to the net change in fair value of the warrant liability. During the Q2, we selectively increased our investments in sales and marketing to strengthen engagement with our top providers, expand our therapeutic wellness offerings and further our geographic expansion. Speaker 500:12:32Largely due to these investments, 2nd quarter adjusted EBITDA decreased 12.4% from the prior year to $12,700,000 with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 25.9%. This compares to adjusted EBITDA of $14,500,000 with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 29.5% in the prior year period. While we continue to make investments aligned with our growth strategy, we anticipate our overall operating expenses will moderate in the second half of this year as compared to the first half. 2nd quarter operating cash flow was approximately $17,300,000 As Terry noted and has previously announced, Bioty concluded litigation with 2 large shareholders during the Q2. These settlements include significant share repurchases and the release and cancellation of earn out shares for no additional consideration. Speaker 500:13:41Under the terms of these settlements, Bioty repurchased the 1st tranche of shares from Doctor. Gary Donovitz for $32,200,000 in April. Subsequently in June, Bioty repurchased the 1st tranche of shares from Marcy Donovitz for $30,000,000 After the repurchase of the first tranches, Bioty has agreed to repurchase the remaining 14,400,000 shares over the next 3 years. Largely because of these share repurchases, cash and cash equivalents at the end of the Q2 of 2024 were $26,400,000 down from $78,800,000 at the end of the Q1 of 2024. Moving forward, we will continue to prudently manage our operating cash flow to assist funding settlement related share repurchases while maintaining our capital allocation discipline. Speaker 500:14:43Turning to our financial outlook for fiscal 2024, we reiterate our previously reported guidance with revenue of $200,000,000 to $204,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $60,000,000 to $63,000,000 At a high level, our 2024 sales guidance reflects our expectations for improving procedure revenue growth in the second half and a return to year over year growth in nutraceutical sales. On the expense side, we anticipate moderation in the second half operating expenses as compared to the first half. Strengthening procedure revenue growth in the second half of twenty twenty four relative to the first half is expected to be driven by 3 factors. 1, improving performance from our top tier clinics 2, the continued expansion of our existing practitioner network and 3, a growing contribution from new clinics, including continued growth in clinics implementing Quick Starts. Now I'll turn the call back to Teri for her closing comments. Speaker 400:15:57Thank you, Bob. Bioty generated solid financial performance in the Q2, and we are on track to achieve our financial and strategic objectives for the year. We continue to progressively rollout BioTRx across our network with plans to add new capabilities to better serve both patients and practitioners. We also continue to integrate Asteria Health, which improves our manufacturing efficiency and offers new opportunities for growth over time. Finally, we have enhanced long term shareholder value by concluding outstanding litigation and committing to significant share repurchases on favorable terms. Speaker 400:16:41We remain focused on driving profitable growth as we strive to become the leading single source provider of evidence based therapeutic wellness solutions. And now, I'd like to open the call for questions. Operator, please begin the question and answer session. Operator00:16:59We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Lee Silolsky with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:17:28Yes. Good evening, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. So Terry, I didn't hear much commentary around your weight loss program and your strategy. Can you just perhaps maybe highlight now that we've heard some of the branded GLP-1s coming off of the shortage list, essentially how does that impact your Speaker 300:17:54I guess there's limitations Speaker 600:17:54from presentations will be no longer available on the I guess there's limitations from presentations will be no longer available on the drug shortage list? And I have a follow-up. Speaker 400:18:02Wow, that's a mouthful. So I'll break it into the pieces. So let me give you a context and a framework for our BioTRx and our use of the GLP-1s. BioTRx. It has a full complement of therapeutic wellness products, which includes the GLP-1s. Speaker 400:18:23And it includes that both in the trisapatide and semiglutide that are both being produced because of the by compounders because of the shortage list. So for us, it's a piece of a formula with a lot of other products that allow that one stop shop at Biotie. So we have a platform that allows those providers to order the product easily delivered on very short SLAs. It's part of a performance piece on therapeutic wellness and it's just a couple of the products. So we're not concerned about this. Speaker 400:19:00The platform is working well. There's a lot of adoption. So it's proceeding very well. And that we can talk a little bit about what's happened even this week on these two products. So right now, if you look at the shortage and why compounders can manufacture, it's the shortage list. Speaker 400:19:18And the FDA considers the following criteria before removing a drug from the shortage list. 1st, whether the manufacturer is able to meet the total national historical demand. And you can report on the amount of that national demand even within the last year on both of the formulations. The second part is whether the manufacturer can verify that it has built enough safety stock for the drugs. You also have other considerations as to whether prescribers or patients have the availability of the drug or if there's still that type of a shortage. Speaker 400:19:58So it's quite a long process. And the only person that determines whether it goes off shortage is the FDA. And if our audience has listened and probably hasn't to the earnings recordings from both Eli Lilly and Novo Novartis that produce the 2 branded products of the trussapatide and the semiglutide, both companies address the fact that they had difficulty meeting demand and that these certain dosage of their drugs come in and out of supply. Alilly announced that there'll be intermittent supply disruptions for drugs such as ZEPT bound and demand may result in periodic supply tightness at different levels at dosage levels. So when we look at this, it looks as if certainly for Novo Novartis, they announced that they'll continue restricting supplies of their starter doses in the U. Speaker 400:21:04S. Market to ensure patients who start the treatment can continue this treatment. So in our estimation and these drugs will remain on shortage for a period of time. There's many options. New drugs are being developed in the GLP-one space as we speak. Speaker 400:21:23So compounders will be allowed to do the ones that are on shortage. And for us, we're not concerned about it in our model. We just want to make sure that our doctors get an easy access to it and a consistent supply. So our platform offers that. And I hope I've given you some insights into why that is not a big concern for us. Speaker 400:21:44I'll also remind you that we get paid a tech platform fee for accessing the our platform, which offers the other formulations as well in therapeutic wellness. So this is just part of our long term therapeutic wellness focus. Speaker 600:22:02Excellent color. I mean, very helpful. Perhaps just to maybe build on that in some sense on the Asteria facility, you've mentioned before you're looking to add a production line on the compounded GLP-one. Is that still in the works? When can we kind of expect that to be operational? Speaker 600:22:21And then I guess my last question is, what percentage of your physicians are in the medical spa setting? And then I guess how many operate at a virtual setting? Thank you. Speaker 400:22:33Good questions. Three questions there. So number 1 on Asteria, we are looking to expanding our space at Asteria and after we're making sure that we can meet all the production need in our integration, we're very focused on manufacturing the other GLP-one products. So I'd be looking to 2025 for that manufacturer and that impact. Your second question, want to repeat that real quick? Speaker 600:23:02Have number percentage of physicians in the Have number percentage of physicians in the medical spa setting and in virtual? Speaker 400:23:08So the medical spa setting, so our practitioners in the medical spa setting have all supervising practitioners. They're usually an arm of an OBGYN or an internist who has a wellness practice next to their traditional practice. So it's a way that that's structured that really allows us to have very good supervising practitioners. And I would certainly say, less than 10%. And on the virtual end, we have very few that have they have a virtual component of their practice, but they're all practitioners with clinics. Speaker 400:23:45So we don't, at this point, service just any completely virtual group. Speaker 600:23:53Great. Thank you. Operator00:23:56And the next question comes from Jonah Kim with TD Cowen. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:24:01Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Curious about the marketing and investments that you've made this quarter. It looks like a step up there. Should we expect similar level of marketing and investments for the remainder of the year? Speaker 400:24:14And just a follow-up to that, how are you measuring your success of spend? And just going forward, how we think about your investment plans? Thank you so much. So what Biot looks to do, Jonna, is to really engage long term with these practitioners, so they keep decades of an involvement with us. So what we invested in this year is that enhancement to our clinical decision support software. Speaker 400:24:41So you'll not only have that clinical decision support software doing an excellent job of hormone optimization, it includes now therapeutic wellness products from our BioTRx. So that's an investment in growing engagement with those providers. Now this is new science and its innovations. And so that large meeting that we had that had so many of our providers, our key large providers, we spent 2.5 days educating them off-site on these new therapeutic wellness products and where the science is going. So that was a large investment in Q2, but all of these should do a very solid ROI on both the enhancement to the Tier 1 clinics and our largest providers, as well as taking us into that next generation where we have no we very much are differentiated from competition. Speaker 500:25:39And Jonas, just to add a little bit to that, as we look at our OpEx, typically it's higher in Q2. And as Terry mentioned, several of the expenses to really support sales, marketing and other customer related expenditures were planned in Q2, as Terry mentioned. And I Speaker 100:25:57would just tell you when Speaker 500:25:57we think about the investments that we're looking to continue to deploy, I mean, whether it's practitioner engagement, modernization of our data systems and data analytics, I would tell you all of those are really supporting what Terry is saying to review that ROI of the spends that we deploy. Speaker 400:26:17Got it. And just one follow-up is, have you seen any notable changes or anything to call out quarter to date trends versus 2nd quarter? And just what gives you confidence in the second half inflection embedded in your guidance? Thank you. Speaker 500:26:34Yes. So right now, I think when we look at Q2 revenue, the improved growth from a sequential perspective on procedure revenue. It was consistent with our year to date guidance. We were expecting that uptick. We don't give quarterly guidance. Speaker 500:26:56So we continue to anticipate second half performance with will strengthen versus the first half. But we're focused really on our key trends, which as we mentioned during the call, growth in our top tier accounts, new customer growth, specifically with improving the quick starts and neutral growth in the second half, which should show positive momentum. Operator00:27:25And the next question comes from Jeff Van Sinderen with B. Riley Securities. Speaker 700:27:33Hello. This is Richard Magnuson in for Jeff Van Sinderen. Thank you for taking our call. First off, you did mention quickly state licenses. And I was wondering if you could provide more color on where you are exactly with obtaining all the various state licenses? Speaker 500:27:50Yes. So we've made pretty good progress as it relates as you can as you look at the entirety of Vysteria, we keep on applying for new licenses. It's constantly in flux. And I would just say, we're obtaining those licenses as planned. And we continue to work with our teams to diligently progress forward in that area. Speaker 500:28:14So I would say we're approaching about the halfway mark of the licenses that we are looking to obtain with a whole handful coming over the next quarter, quarter and a half. Speaker 700:28:29Okay. And then my next question is, previously you talked about the doctors, they were a little bit maybe stubborn to migrate towards your new platform from what they were used to. Some of it was because they had more inventory from previous sources. And so my question is, have they depleted that as far as you know or a lot of it? And the other aspect was that they were reluctant to move away from the legacy sources and were testing the BioTE as a source with smaller orders until they feel comfortable with BioTE. Speaker 700:29:03Has this situation meaningfully improved? Or what can you tell us about that? Speaker 400:29:10Yes, it's meaningfully improved. We've been adding new doctors because new state licenses are coming in for our Bio TRx. So we've been adding practitioners. They've been increasing their orders. They're seeing the consistency of the delivery time and the quality of the product. Speaker 400:29:27So all that's going very well. And what I'm excited about is these new clinics that we've got are becoming it's It's not just GLP-1s. They're not just shopping GLP-1s, but they're learning the business and depending on us for their supply and used to using our platforms. So the strategy is working very well. Speaker 700:29:54All right. Thank you. Operator00:29:58And the next question comes from George Kelly with Roth Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:30:04Hey, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple for you. First on Asteria, curious how much of your production is running through there and what is your expectation for year end? Speaker 500:30:20Yes. So the way that I would look at this, George, I mean, we've talked a little bit about the state licenses. We are at a point now where from a production perspective, we've built the capabilities to meet the needs in the short term and probably in the medium term by building additional machinery, installing additional machinery. And I think we're at a point now where we scaled up well and we're building the inventory and producing enough really to make sure that we have enough inventory to meet our future demand. Speaker 300:30:57So I guess the next part of that question is, so are you anticipating a meaningful step up in gross margin in the back half just based on that production flowing through Asteria? Speaker 500:31:11So the way that we're looking at this, I mean, as you look at the 3 different facets, so there let's just take a little bit of a step back and I'll touch on the gross margin piece. So as you can imagine, when you onboard a function like Asteria into Bioty, you need to be really focused on doing each facet quite well. 1, as we just already mentioned, was the state licenses. Number 2 is really trying to phase in and work towards the conversion of these additional states that we get access to. And what we're finding is that we're working quite well with our commercial teams and very strategically to work through this process to ensure a smooth transition. Speaker 500:31:55And we're succeeding in this process. So I think that's good. We already also touched on the last piece, which is building that inventory. So clearly Asteria is an important piece and a strategic part of our overall capabilities within Biotie. As we transition, we'll begin to operationalize and operationally transition pellets into the different clinics. Speaker 500:32:21As procedures start to occur and these pellets are implanted, This will be more of a as we start to progress through this, this will enable a more phased approach through the second half of the year. And the financial impact on gross margin has been factored into our 2024 adjusted EBITDA guidance range. Speaker 300:32:44Okay. And then 2 other quick ones. In your prepared remarks, you mentioned that you expect SG and A to moderate in the back half versus what you just reported in the first half. Can you be more specific? Does that mean that you expect absolute SG and A dollars to decline in the back half versus the first half? Speaker 300:33:05Or what does that mean? Speaker 500:33:08No. So here's the way I would look at it. So we our core expenses to really remain flat. We don't see any material shifts in the business, but we are going to continue to spend additional funds on revenue generating activities. We don't have any big expenses like the Sun and Sea events that Terry mentioned that we had in Q2. Speaker 500:33:31But we're going to continue to spend on new customer trainings, Amazon demand generating activities and development of new and existing customer growth. So the moderation is really baked in also into that guidance. Speaker 300:33:48Okay. Speaker 500:33:49Does that address your question? Speaker 300:33:52Yes, I think so. I'm just trying to sort of triangulate into your EBITDA guide. And it implies a fairly significant step up in EBITDA margin in the back half. And so I'm just trying to figure out like what's is that a gross margin thing or an SG and A thing? I don't know if there's a way to sort of get to that. Speaker 300:34:14If not, that's okay. Speaker 500:34:18No, I think no, I would just tell you right now, we do expect that moderation. And I would just say, as we look at gross margin in the second half, I would say we're kind of we are going to be guiding towards the high end of our historical range, so in that upper 60s range. So that can give you kind of a little bit of a guide to where we're going on that front. Speaker 300:34:47Okay, understood. Thank you. Operator00:34:51And the next question comes from Kamil Gajrawala with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:34:58Hey, guys. Good evening. Couple, I guess, follow ups from some of your answers to other questions. On the state licensing, can you maybe just give an update or an idea of maybe how many states are left and if any particularly large states or ones where you recently became licensed? Speaker 500:35:20Well, I would tell you that the just overall the state licenses that we've been approved in match up fairly well to our existing footprint. And I would just say that we are continuing I think I can say with we've applied for nearly all states and they're varying phases of the approval process. Speaker 100:35:52Okay. Got it. And on I guess as a follow-up a little bit to the last question is, was the step up in marketing simply the big event? And we're just looking at more of a run rate over the rest of the year? Was there an actual in addition to the event, a few things that were incremental that stepped up the investment dollars? Speaker 500:36:15Yes. I would just say that the Sunsea event is a pretty material event. And I would say that that is probably one of the largest drivers. I would say that there's a combination, as I mentioned, as we look at optimizing our sales force, doing the engaging with our practitioners, improving our data systems. There are other smaller items along the way, but you've really hit the big one. Speaker 400:36:44Yes. Camille, I think one of the things is that investment in the people. We're going to therapeutic wellness and taking all of our providers to a much more evidence based science as we look into therapeutic wellness. So we invested in our educators. Those are our practitioners who teach for us and we educated in their ability to teach and revamping the training program. Speaker 400:37:08So I really want to invite you and people in the audience that this is the new training in the fall for this therapeutic wellness is a significant step up. And we invested in the instructors, the materials and the whole education process to really make it a very strong interactive experience for our new providers and those that are coming back for additional training. Speaker 100:37:33Got it. Sounds like a good time. We'll look out for an invite. Thanks guys. We'll talk soon. Operator00:37:41This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Terri Weber for any closing remarks. Speaker 400:37:50Thank you everyone for joining us today. We appreciate the interest in Bioty and we really look forward to updating you on our progress in therapeutic wellness on our next conference call. Operator00:38:06The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation.Read morePowered by