NASDAQ:LINC Lincoln Educational Services Q2 2024 Earnings Report $22.30 -0.09 (-0.42%) As of 12:27 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Lincoln Educational Services EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.06Consensus EPS -$0.01Beat/MissBeat by +$0.07One Year Ago EPSN/ALincoln Educational Services Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$102.91 millionExpected Revenue$99.60 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$3.31 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ALincoln Educational Services Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/8/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, August 8, 2024Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsLincoln Educational Services' Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, August 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, August 7, 2025 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Lincoln Educational Services Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 8, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Second Quarter Lincoln Educational Services Earnings Conference Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would like now to turn the conference over to Michael Polibieux, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:42Thank you, Michelle. Good morning, everyone. Before the market opened today, Lincoln Educational Services issued its news release reporting financial results in recent corporate developments for the Q2 6 months ended June 30, 2024. The release is available on the Investor Relations portion of the company's corporate website at www.lincolntech.edu. Joining us today on the call is Scott Shaw, President and CEO and Brian Myers, Chief Financial Officer. Speaker 100:01:09Today's call is being recorded and is being broadcast live on the company's website. A replay of the call will be archived on the company's website. Statements made by Lincoln Management on today's call regarding the company's business that are not historical facts may be forward looking statements as determined identified in the federal securities laws. The words may, will, expect, believe, anticipate, project, plan, intend, estimate and continue as well as similar expressions are intended to identify forward looking statements. Forward looking statements should not be read as a guarantee of future performance. Speaker 100:01:41The company cautions you that these statements reflect certain expectations about the company's future performance or events and are subject to a number of uncertainties, risks and other influences, many of which are beyond the company's control and may influence the accuracy of the statement and projection upon which the segment and statements are based. Factors that may affect the company's results include, but are not limited to, the risks and uncertainties discussed in the Risk Factors section of the Annual Report on Form 10 ks and the quarterly report on Form 10 Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Total statements are based on the information available at the time those statements are made and management's good faith belief as of the time with respect to future events. All forward looking statements are qualified in their entirety by this cautionary statement and Lincoln undertakes no obligation to publicly revise or update any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise after the date thereof. One other housekeeping matter. Speaker 100:02:41During the Q and A portion of our call today, we would appreciate if questionnaires limited themselves to questions and then requeue to ask any additional questions. In advance, we thank you for your cooperation. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Scott Shaw, President and CEO of Lincoln Educational Services. Scott? Speaker 200:02:58Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. For several quarters, our team has been generating strong operating and financial momentum leading to consistent revenue, student start and profitability growth. We continued these trends during our Q2 and we are well on our way to meeting our 2024 guidance metrics. In fact, we are adjusting our guidance in a positive direction, which Brian will review in his remarks. The investments we've made in our transformative strategies over the past several years are driving our growth. Speaker 200:03:30Additionally, we continue to capitalize on America's expanding interest in career opportunities that avoid the cost and time of a 4 year college degree and help the nation close the skills gap inhibiting corporate growth. During the Q2 without relying on acquisitions, we grew revenue 16% over the prior year period and student starts increased 12.3%. Our student retention rate continued to be strong and we ended the quarter with an average student population increase over last year in excess of 11%. Our top line performance coupled with increased operating efficiencies driven by the implementation of our highly scalable hybrid instructional platform Lincoln 10.0 led to adjusted EBITDA of $6,000,000 I'll let Brian address our adjusted EBITDA performance during his remarks, but I do want to note our 2nd quarter result was approximately 2.5 times greater than what we generated during last year's Q2. Furthermore, our total SG and A expense during the Q2 fell below 56% as compared to 57.6% and our educational services and facilities expenses as a percentage of revenue also declined further demonstrating the operating leverage we are beginning to realize. Speaker 200:04:45We complete the rollout of Lincoln 10.0 by the end of this year, the platform will be used in teaching approximately 65% of our students. We continue to see numerous indications that the platform improves our operating efficiencies while also playing a major factor in a student's decision to enroll at Lincoln. The platform reduces the time to complete many of our programs speeding up graduates to begin their careers. This enhanced training productivity is also attractive to our corporate partners who remain constrained by the lack of skilled employees. While I've mentioned before how Lincoln 10.0 has fundamentally changed how we teach our students and position the company for the future, its transformational impact on our company bears repeating. Speaker 200:05:29The platform is serving as the foundation for our focused growth strategies of opening new campuses and replicating successful programs and existing campuses. For example, the East Point, Georgia campus is our first new greenfield campus developed in some 18 years. This brand new state of the art facility features 56,000 square feet of training space and includes 15 automotive service spaces and up to 60 welding booths, labs, classrooms and work areas. We welcome the 1st class during the Q1 and by the end of June, we had already enrolled more students at Eastpoint than we had initially budgeted for the entire year. The campus' strong results prove the success of our site selection process and bodes well for our future new campuses and relocations. Speaker 200:06:18We designed Eastpoint to be unique among trade schools and for those who have visited the campus, it is apparent when you first enter the campus. We sought to create a setting that was both sleek and modern, elevating the student and teaching experience. Everything about the campus has been thoughtfully designed to deliver exceptional hands on education and training with robust labs and shops. Moreover, we are utilizing the best in class curriculum and training aids. For example, in our automotive program, we're the only school group in the United States utilizing ElekTude curriculum and their integrated trainers. Speaker 200:06:55ElekTude is the global leader in automotive training in high schools and colleges. ElekTude's cloud based e learning platform allows our instructors access to interactive and engaging foundational lessons, gamified formative and summative assessments, teaching resources, tools to build their own curriculum, analytical tools to identify learners' needs and coursework in multiple languages. Moreover, their proprietary trainers seamlessly integrate with the curriculum and provide students with a clear understanding of all the major systems in a car. At the heart of the program is the principle of discovery learning, which is how younger generations have become so adept in mastering today's technology. Again, based on the robust response generated to date in the form of leads, applications and starts, we are off to an excellent start with Eastpoint and the early results have increased our confidence in our new campus strategy. Speaker 200:07:54Our future Nashville and Levittown campuses are scheduled to open during the first half of twenty twenty five. As a reminder, both campuses are totally new from the ground up and replace existing operations in those markets and include additional programs at both campuses. Our 4th new campus in Houston is meeting its construction and build out schedule, but local regulatory timelines are causing our startup of this campus to be pushed out. We now see starting our 1st class in Houston during the Q4 of 2025. A 5th new campus is in the initial stages of development and our plan is to announce its location by our Q3 results conference call. Speaker 200:08:32This campus would open in 2026. In addition to the new campuses, replicating and expanding successful programs at our existing campuses remains a key growth strategy. Currently, we have related initiatives which Brian will provide more detail on. However, we continue to expect that each of these programs will generate approximately $1,000,000 of profitability within 3 years of opening, if not sooner. Our focus on offering innovative efficient student curriculums is enabling a growing number of graduates to enter rewarding in demand careers. Speaker 200:09:06This focus is also attracting additional corporate partners and broadening our relationship with existing partners. Our corporate partnership development activity remained quite robust during the Q2 and we expanded our relationship with Peterbilt Corporation to our Denver campus after successfully starting up that partnership at the Nashville campus a year ago. On our last call, we reviewed the 5 year workforce development agreement signed with Container Maintenance Corporation. In June, we began the curriculum development for this program at CMC's Charleston, South Carolina facility. Over 5 years, the agreement is expected to generate approximately $6,000,000 in revenue to Lincoln. Speaker 200:09:45While our company has successfully executed workforce development programs for organizations in the past, the CMC agreement represents a new scale and level for Lincoln. Rather than bringing employees to one of our campuses, we are leveraging our curriculum and training resources to upscale CMC employees at its facilities. This approach is an emerging opportunity for Lincoln and one we believe that has the potential to become a significant contributor to our business. We expect to be able to announce additional contracts before year end. Meanwhile, we continue to have enormous opportunities with our campus focused growth strategies. Speaker 200:10:22Through the end of 20 26, we expect to layer on 3 greenfield campuses while relocating and expanding 2 others and have 10 program replications fully up and running. As each of these campuses and replications comes online, we consistently expand our opportunities to increase overall student starts. In addition, we remain focused on maintaining the solid organic start growth at existing programs. Our marketing programs continue to generate a high return on investment as leads continue to increase at a strong double digit level. Additionally, our expansion of outreach efforts in the states of Connecticut and Maryland in which we joined forces with employers, government agencies, unions and community colleges to increase awareness of the opportunities available through skilled trades careers has been a resounding success. Speaker 200:11:12In the case of Maryland, we've been engaged to coordinate a similar program next year with increased funding from the state. As you can see, we are achieving strong growth in revenues and profitability and remain on track to achieve our long term goals of $550,000,000 of revenue $90,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA in 2027. Our opportunities have never been better. From 1980 until 2020, our country pushed the need to go to a 4 year school no matter the cost or the outcome. During this time, the value of career education was pushed to the side despite the growing need for more highly trained middle skilled workers. Speaker 200:11:49The discussion around the skills gap grew during the 1st 2 decades of the 21st century as employers began to struggle to find technicians, electricians, welders and healthcare workers. Then COVID hit and the shortage of middle skills workers became abundantly clear to everyone, which is why for the most part, our students remained employed during the pandemic since we needed food and medical supplies to be delivered, which requires trucks and vans to remain operational. Electricians and HVAC technicians were needed to keep our homes, hospitals, supermarkets and other facilities up and running. Our healthcare system was stretched almost the breaking point as the demand for nurses and healthcare workers skyrocketed. In short, Lincoln Tech trains the essential workers that allow us to live our lives in the manner to which we are accustomed. Speaker 200:12:36We see the need for what we are doing we see the need for what we do growing despite the economic environment. There are unrefutable changes happening that are driving increased need for our students. For example, our population is aging and the need for healthcare and healthcare workers will only grow. Society's demand for the Internet, AI, connectivity and communication will only grow as will demand for electricians, HVAC techs and other workers to maintain server farms, install networks and rebuild our power grid. Demand for cleaner energy will continue to increase whether mandated by government or by citizens who see an opportunity to make a positive change for society. Speaker 200:13:17On this last point, I want to highlight a partnership that we have with Fujitsu, a world leader in HVAC systems and in particular split unit systems utilizing inverter technology. These new systems are extremely efficient and can now be used in colder climates to very cost effectively heat and cool homes and offices. Across the country, we are seeing mandates proposed that are discouraging installing heating and cooling systems that emit greenhouse gases and switch to mini split systems. Our partnership with Fujitsu will help ensure that our students are acquiring the skills that can be used today and into the future. Part of our very successful company is a skilled and experienced Board of Directors. Speaker 200:14:01At Lincoln, we have consistently excelled at attracting excellent Board members and recently continued this tradition with the appointments of Marketing Executive, Marta Newhart and former Treasurer of the United States, Anna Cabral. Marta is a highly recognized marketing expert and her professional experience will help broaden our Board's perspective and enhance our ability to achieve our long term strategy. Hannah's exemplary background in public service will be enormous asset to our organization and diverse community of students. Her work in government, building coalitions from diverse points of view will be a great benefit to Lincoln as we navigate through the highly regulated environment in which we operate. In summary, we are on our way to achieving our full year guidance and are well positioned for growth in 2025 and beyond. Speaker 200:14:50We are transforming our company into an exceptional provider of educational services that meets the needs of America's corporations as well as America's workforce. Finally, I'd like to note, I'll be in Chicago on August 28 for the annual Midwest Ideas Conference, as well as partaking in Barrington's Virtual Fall Investment Conference on September 12 to educate investors about the enhanced valuation potential offered through our shares. Now I'll turn the call over to Brian Myers, so he can review some of our recent financial highlights and guidance. Brian? Speaker 300:15:24Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everybody, and thank you for joining our Q2 2024 earnings call. This morning, I'm pleased to share our financial results along with some key operational highlights. Starting with the quarter's financial performance. Total revenue was nearly $103,000,000 representing an increase of about $14,000,000 or 16%, mainly driven by our robust start growth over the last 7 consecutive quarters. Speaker 300:15:52During the Q2, student starts grew by 12.3%. This marks the 3rd consecutive quarter of double digit growth in both revenue and starts. As a result, we had approximately 1500 more students as of June 30, 2024 compared to prior year, propelling revenue growth for the second half and beyond. As Scott mentioned, the new East Point campus is performing exceptionally well, exceeding enrollment goals and contributing to the company's top line. While the East Point campus contributed to our robust stock growth, we also continued to achieve solid organic stock growth from existing campuses. Speaker 300:16:30Excluding the new Eastpoint campus, we grew our organic campus revenue by $13,000,000 with the incremental revenue contributing an operating margin of over 30%. Now turning to the expenses for the quarter, which as a reminder for comparability purposes exclude one, expenses of our new Eastpoint campus during its opening period 2, pre opening costs associated with the new and relocating campuses 3, other non recurring expenses and 4, the transitional segment in 2023. Further details on these items are available in the non GAAP disclosures of our Q2 earnings release. Total operating expenses were close to $99,000,000 which is reflective of our growing population and in line with expectations. Education service and facility expenses as a percentage of revenue was down to 42% from 44.4 percent in the prior year. Speaker 300:17:29The majority of the decrease relates to instructional expenses, which increased over prior year due to costs associated with our larger student base, but decreased as a percentage of revenue as we begin to experience efficiencies and benefits from our higher population and our hard grid learning model. Adjusted EBITDA was $6,200,000 for the 2nd quarter compared to $2,400,000 in the prior year, representing more than 150% increase. We had an income tax benefit for the quarter of approximately $500,000 including a discrete item benefit associated with stock vesting. For the second half of the year, we expect our effective tax rate to be approximately 30%. Turning to the balance sheet. Speaker 300:18:13Our balance sheet remains robust with total liquidity exceeding $100,000,000 cash and cash equivalents of $67,000,000 no debt and working capital of around $50,000,000 Our CapEx for the 3 months was approximately $10,000,000 relating to multiple exciting projects, which will drive growth next year and beyond. 1st, we continue to manage the build out of 10 additional programs, which are either a program replication at an additional campus or an expansion of an existing campus. Based on the construction patient approvals, we expect 6 programs to be rolled out by year end the remaining to be launched in the first half of twenty twenty five. 2nd, we are working towards the opening of 3 new steady to the art facilities in 2025, comprised of 2 campus relocations and one brand new location. We are seeing some delays in the timing of our capital spending, which will shift about $20,000,000 to 2025,000,000 leading us to reduce our CapEx guidance for the year. Speaker 300:19:15However, we were slightly ahead of schedule in 2 of the 3 projects. Starting with the Nashville and Levittown relocations, both projects continues to make great progress and now are expected to be completed in the first half of twenty twenty five. The new Houston campus build out has experienced some delays driving a majority of the CapEx shift into 2025. As a result, we now anticipate the campus to open towards the end of 2025. Looking ahead to the remainder of 2024, based on these project statuses, we are reducing full year our full year CapEx guidance of $45,000,000 to $55,000,000 Our second quarter operating financial results as well as the outlook for the remainder of the year leads us to raise our outlook for revenue and increase the low end range of adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income and student starts. Speaker 300:20:08The outlook for guidance has been updated to revenue ranging $423,000,000 to $430,000,000 adjusted EBITDA in the range of $39,000,000 to $42,000,000 dollars adjusted net income ranging between $14,000,000 $17,000,000 and student starts growth of 9% to 12%. As a reminder, our full year financial guidance for adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net income excludes the impact of Eastpointe campus preopening costs related to new and relocated campuses, program expansions and net non cash stock based compensation. Also in terms of depreciation and amortization, we expect a slight increase in the second half of the year, resulting in approximately $7,500,000 of expense recorded fairly even over each quarter. Lastly, interest expense is anticipated to be near $500,000 in the second half, evenly dividing Q3 and Q4. In conclusion, we are very pleased with our performance in 2024. Speaker 300:21:12We have a solid growth plans and work to continue to explore new opportunities to expand and drive efficiencies. As we highlighted in our Q2 investor presentation, under the strategic growth slide that we posted to our website later today, our long term vision and goal is to generate revenue of approximately 550,000,000 dollars and adjusted EBITDA of about $90,000,000 in 2027. Our team is working diligently together and we believe we are well positioned to achieve this target. We sincerely appreciate the entire Lincoln team, especially our faculty for making a difference each day and changing our students' lives. Now I'll turn the call back over to the operator for any questions. Speaker 300:21:53Operator? Operator00:21:55Thank you. And our first question comes from Alex Paris with Barrington Research. Your line is now open. Speaker 400:22:17Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I want to congratulate you on the beaten raise. Speaker 200:22:23Thanks, Alex. Appreciate that. We're excited by it as well. Speaker 400:22:28Couple of quick questions. Both you, Scott and Brian said at the end of the call that your targets for 2027 are 5.5090 for revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Is that a rounding thing? Are you increasing it? Because I think you said at Investor Day 5.4088. Speaker 300:22:50Right. It was actually increased slightly because the start of that strategic growth plan starts with the mid range of our guidance. So as we increase that, it increases 2027 as well. Speaker 200:23:04Yes. So we did make an adjustment up since the investor meeting. Speaker 400:23:11First, I mean, San said previously, I don't recall? Speaker 300:23:17No, I think this is the first time and it will be out on our website later today. Speaker 400:23:23Great. Well, congratulations on that. Here are my two questions. I wanted to focus on starts. Starts were up more than we had expected. Speaker 400:23:34We expected 4,600 starts. You came in closer to 5,000 starts up 12%. What do you attribute that to? I'm assuming the increase in marketing. And then has that momentum continued into the Q3? Speaker 400:23:52What's your experience in July August? Speaker 200:23:55Sure. Well, definitely, we achieved greater success than we were thinking. However, to support that, we are seeing continued success moving forward. There definitely is increased demand at a double digit level for our programs kind of across the board. And it really comes down to a lot of execution to achieve those as well as just timing of when some of the starts take place within the quarter. Speaker 200:24:22But the basic prem or the basic fact is we see strong demand continuing. That's why we raised our guidance. The midpoint of our guidance is 10%, 11%, I guess, closer to 11% and that's where we anticipate will come out for the year. Speaker 400:24:42And above and beyond the renaissance in skilled trades, the appeal of these blue collar jobs that can't be outsourced or replaced by AI. You've increased marketing year over year. I think you said in the press release it was up $2,000,000 year over year? Speaker 200:25:02Yes. Yes. So there is enhanced I'm sorry, Alex, you didn't finish. Speaker 400:25:08I was just going to say and has that had any impact on the cost per lead? No cost per Speaker 200:25:13start, basically. Yes, cost per start. The good news is we follow that very closely and the cost per start is relatively flat, might be up a percentage or 2, but nothing significant and it kind of changes quarter by quarter. Again, it's kind of just timing of when we spend the money and when the students start. I think at the end of the day though, there is this increased demand. Speaker 200:25:34Some people though think that people just naturally come to you just because people talk about it. We still have to be out there in front of people. But as long as we continue to maintain our cost per start, which we have over the last 5 years, we're going to continue to make those investments and drive greater growth. Speaker 400:25:50Makes sense. And here's my last one, I know we're limited to 2. By program, population by program, starts by program. The overall starts number of up 12% was really driven by the transportation and skilled trade side of the business up 21%. Healthcare and other professions were down 6% in the quarter. Speaker 400:26:13What do you would and it was up 9% in the Q1, so definitely a decline in the Q2. What do you attribute that to? Speaker 200:26:21A lot of it again is timing of when starts occur. In certain times, we can have 2 nursing starts in the quarter, sometimes only 1. So in a couple of the campuses are switching of when those starts were taking place year over year. At the end of the day, I'm still expecting growth in the healthcare sector for the full year. I'm not worried about growing that area. Speaker 300:26:46Our biggest decline was in LPN and was due to the timing of the starts. Speaker 400:26:51Got you. Do you still though think that auto and skilled trades will increase at a greater rate than healthcare and other professions for the full year? Speaker 200:27:01Yes, simply because that's where we're replicating our programs as of now. We have future opportunity we believe to replicate the healthcare programs, But right now, we're focused on the skilled trades and auto programs. So the answer is definitely yes. Speaker 400:27:16Makes sense guys. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:27:19Thanks, Alex. Thanks, Alex. Operator00:27:21And the next question comes from Steven Frankel with Rosenblatt Securities. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:27:29Good morning. Alex stole my thunder, but maybe we're did dig into healthcare Speaker 600:27:35a little bit more. Speaker 500:27:39What's the size of the funnel there relative to the prospect funnel on the skilled trade side? Is there still a very good funnel there? Or are you finding that people are less interested in this area post COVID? I know there's plenty of job openings, but what's the interest level like? Speaker 200:28:03Yes. Interest still remains strong in healthcare. It's definitely growing. It's up over last year. As I said, I'm very comfortable that our full year healthcare numbers will be meaningfully up. Speaker 200:28:15Again, our skilled trades in auto are going to be up more because that is where we're having more replications and expansions take place. But overall demand is strong across the board. Not worried frankly about any demand indicators shifting negatively or maybe it will shift more positively, but they're definitely robust, I'd say, Stephen, across the board for us. Speaker 500:28:40I appreciate the update on the cash pay programs in skilled trades and auto. Are there any prospects for replicating that kind of success on the healthcare side? Speaker 200:28:54Absolutely. And the healthcare side of the house is an area that we're putting increased focus on. We recently hired a new individual, a VP of Healthcare, frankly, to help us drive that business going forward. So I would anticipate certainly as we get into 2025 sharing more of what those new opportunities will be for us. Speaker 500:29:19Great. Thank you. Operator00:29:24And our next question comes from Eric Martinuzzi with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Eric, your line is now open. And the next question comes from Raj Sharma with B. Riley. Operator00:29:57Your line is now open. Speaker 600:30:01Yes. Thank you. Good morning and thanks for taking my question. I wanted to understand the starts color a little bit better. So if I heard it correctly, the healthcare starts were down 6% and that's largely explainable from timing. Speaker 600:30:20Is that right? Yes. In my follow on right. My follow on question on is the ex of Atlanta, the Eastpoint Georgia campus, what was the start to growth rate? And was Atlanta almost all transportation, right? Speaker 200:30:41Well, the land is definitely all transportation skilled trades. Again, that's automotive, electrical, HVAC and welding. And the growth without it was about 5.5%. There's a slide in our investor up on the website that shows you that. So we had good solid growth without that new campus. Speaker 600:31:03Right. And what are the what is the enrollment you're expecting at the Eastpointe campus? Speaker 200:31:12Well, we modeled out that. I'll just tell you what we modeled the campus at getting to enrollment around 700 to 7 50 students. At the end of this year, we originally thought there might be 300 students and we're exceeding that. Speaker 600:31:34Right. And that makes sense. And the health care starts you expect for the year to be positive growth, any sort of target on that? Speaker 200:31:50I can't. To be honest with you, I haven't looked at it in that way. All I know is that there is positive growth. I know Brian, if you have any more information. Speaker 300:31:57Yes. We're flat for the 6 months and we're expecting the second half to be positive. And again, for our 2 big programs there is MA, which was up for this quarter, the second quarter over 30%. As Scott described, LPN was down, but that was all due to the number of starts we have because it fluctuates from quarter to quarter there. So hopefully that'll catch up in Q3. Speaker 300:32:19So we are anticipating to be positive. I don't have the number there. Speaker 600:32:24Got it. Well, that's very helpful. And just my last question on Lincoln 10.0, I see that you have covered 65%, you said, if I heard that correctly, 65% of the students would be under the Lincoln 10.0. And I understand that there are cost efficiencies to be seen. Are there cost efficiencies to be seen? Speaker 600:32:46And where would you see them in the metrics next year versus this year? That would be great, some color on that. Speaker 200:32:54Yes. You would see them in the educational line because of the increased efficiency that we'll have with faculty. We're starting to see it now. But to your point, we'll definitely see more of it in 2025 as we see the benefits of blended learning coming to fruition. It does provide some better student to teacher ratios and better utilization of the classrooms, which all adds to the efficiency. Speaker 200:33:20But it's basically in the instructional line that you'll see the savings. Speaker 500:33:24Got it. Speaker 600:33:25Thank you for taking my questions. Again, congratulations on solid results. Speaker 200:33:31Thanks, Raj. Thanks, Operator00:33:39The next question comes from Eric Martinuzzi with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 700:33:47Okay. We'll try this again. Can you hear me? Speaker 200:33:50We can hear you, Eric. Glad to hear you. Speaker 700:33:52Okay. I promise I was not on mute. I'm not sure what happened, but let's dive in here. So the 2027 plan, is that based on the existing campus footprint that we have as well as that new location that's planned for 2026? Or is there build out beyond the 2026 campus location that's Speaker 300:34:16No, it's still the same thing we talked about on the Investor Day. So it's the 2 relocating campuses and one campus the new Atlantic campus. So it's just those campuses, anything additional will be additive to that and the new programs that we discussed. Speaker 700:34:33And that and so here Speaker 600:34:37all is Speaker 300:34:38Yes, it includes, I'm sorry, Houston as well. I'm sorry, the Atlantic campus, Houston and the 2 relocating, but not the one that Scott described that we'll be announcing shortly. Speaker 200:34:48Yes. So just to be clear, everything we've announced to date, except for the new one that we anticipate we'll be announcing in the next quarter, it drives us to those results. Speaker 700:35:00Got you. And then a follow-up on that. Houston, what specifically is the regulatory or the barrier to roll out there? Why do we have to kick the can on Houston? Speaker 200:35:12Building permits, everyone thinks of Houston, I mean Texas is being very open and free with a lot of things, but for whatever reason, took us longer to get some building permits approved. Speaker 700:35:24Okay. And you said, so new students by the end of 2025, is that Q4 'twenty five, Q3 or still TBD? Speaker 200:35:35Yes. At some point within the Q4 of 2025, we'll have our first starts at that campus. Speaker 700:35:42Got it. Thanks for taking my question. Speaker 200:35:46No problem. Glad you were able to connect with us. Operator00:36:01Okay. I show no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Scott for closing remarks. Speaker 200:36:10Thanks, operator. And we just want to thank everyone for joining our call. As you can see, Lincoln has a lot of positive momentum and we really see that continuing into next year and I believe even the year after. There's so much that's happening that we serve and the need for what we do, we see increasing given the demand we hear from employers and given the trends we are seeing in society waking up to the fact that there are other opportunities for people to start their careers in a shorter, faster, more economical way. And that's certainly what we're all about at Lincoln Tech. Speaker 200:36:44We like that as we say, we help students put their potential to work and we look forward to doing that with more and more students. We look forward to updating you at our next earnings call and we hope you all have a wonderful day. Thank you. Operator00:36:57This does conclude today's conference call. Thank you forRead morePowered by Key Takeaways Q2 financial performance: Revenue increased 16% year-over-year, student starts grew 12.3%, and adjusted EBITDA of $6.2 million was approximately 2.5 times last year’s Q2 result. Management raised full-year guidance, now expecting $423 million–$430 million in revenue and $39 million–$42 million of adjusted EBITDA for 2024. Rollout of the Lincoln 10.0 hybrid instructional platform is on track to cover 65% of students by year-end, delivering improved operating efficiencies and accelerated program completion. The new East Point, Georgia campus exceeded enrollment forecasts for its first class, validating Lincoln’s site-selection and modern facility strategy. Construction and regulatory delays have pushed the opening of the Houston greenfield campus to Q4 2025, shifting approximately $20 million of CapEx into next year. AI Generated. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Second Quarter Lincoln Educational Services Earnings Conference Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would like now to turn the conference over to Michael Polibieux, Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:42Thank you, Michelle. Good morning, everyone. Before the market opened today, Lincoln Educational Services issued its news release reporting financial results in recent corporate developments for the Q2 6 months ended June 30, 2024. The release is available on the Investor Relations portion of the company's corporate website at www.lincolntech.edu. Joining us today on the call is Scott Shaw, President and CEO and Brian Myers, Chief Financial Officer. Speaker 100:01:09Today's call is being recorded and is being broadcast live on the company's website. A replay of the call will be archived on the company's website. Statements made by Lincoln Management on today's call regarding the company's business that are not historical facts may be forward looking statements as determined identified in the federal securities laws. The words may, will, expect, believe, anticipate, project, plan, intend, estimate and continue as well as similar expressions are intended to identify forward looking statements. Forward looking statements should not be read as a guarantee of future performance. Speaker 100:01:41The company cautions you that these statements reflect certain expectations about the company's future performance or events and are subject to a number of uncertainties, risks and other influences, many of which are beyond the company's control and may influence the accuracy of the statement and projection upon which the segment and statements are based. Factors that may affect the company's results include, but are not limited to, the risks and uncertainties discussed in the Risk Factors section of the Annual Report on Form 10 ks and the quarterly report on Form 10 Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Total statements are based on the information available at the time those statements are made and management's good faith belief as of the time with respect to future events. All forward looking statements are qualified in their entirety by this cautionary statement and Lincoln undertakes no obligation to publicly revise or update any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise after the date thereof. One other housekeeping matter. Speaker 100:02:41During the Q and A portion of our call today, we would appreciate if questionnaires limited themselves to questions and then requeue to ask any additional questions. In advance, we thank you for your cooperation. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Scott Shaw, President and CEO of Lincoln Educational Services. Scott? Speaker 200:02:58Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. For several quarters, our team has been generating strong operating and financial momentum leading to consistent revenue, student start and profitability growth. We continued these trends during our Q2 and we are well on our way to meeting our 2024 guidance metrics. In fact, we are adjusting our guidance in a positive direction, which Brian will review in his remarks. The investments we've made in our transformative strategies over the past several years are driving our growth. Speaker 200:03:30Additionally, we continue to capitalize on America's expanding interest in career opportunities that avoid the cost and time of a 4 year college degree and help the nation close the skills gap inhibiting corporate growth. During the Q2 without relying on acquisitions, we grew revenue 16% over the prior year period and student starts increased 12.3%. Our student retention rate continued to be strong and we ended the quarter with an average student population increase over last year in excess of 11%. Our top line performance coupled with increased operating efficiencies driven by the implementation of our highly scalable hybrid instructional platform Lincoln 10.0 led to adjusted EBITDA of $6,000,000 I'll let Brian address our adjusted EBITDA performance during his remarks, but I do want to note our 2nd quarter result was approximately 2.5 times greater than what we generated during last year's Q2. Furthermore, our total SG and A expense during the Q2 fell below 56% as compared to 57.6% and our educational services and facilities expenses as a percentage of revenue also declined further demonstrating the operating leverage we are beginning to realize. Speaker 200:04:45We complete the rollout of Lincoln 10.0 by the end of this year, the platform will be used in teaching approximately 65% of our students. We continue to see numerous indications that the platform improves our operating efficiencies while also playing a major factor in a student's decision to enroll at Lincoln. The platform reduces the time to complete many of our programs speeding up graduates to begin their careers. This enhanced training productivity is also attractive to our corporate partners who remain constrained by the lack of skilled employees. While I've mentioned before how Lincoln 10.0 has fundamentally changed how we teach our students and position the company for the future, its transformational impact on our company bears repeating. Speaker 200:05:29The platform is serving as the foundation for our focused growth strategies of opening new campuses and replicating successful programs and existing campuses. For example, the East Point, Georgia campus is our first new greenfield campus developed in some 18 years. This brand new state of the art facility features 56,000 square feet of training space and includes 15 automotive service spaces and up to 60 welding booths, labs, classrooms and work areas. We welcome the 1st class during the Q1 and by the end of June, we had already enrolled more students at Eastpoint than we had initially budgeted for the entire year. The campus' strong results prove the success of our site selection process and bodes well for our future new campuses and relocations. Speaker 200:06:18We designed Eastpoint to be unique among trade schools and for those who have visited the campus, it is apparent when you first enter the campus. We sought to create a setting that was both sleek and modern, elevating the student and teaching experience. Everything about the campus has been thoughtfully designed to deliver exceptional hands on education and training with robust labs and shops. Moreover, we are utilizing the best in class curriculum and training aids. For example, in our automotive program, we're the only school group in the United States utilizing ElekTude curriculum and their integrated trainers. Speaker 200:06:55ElekTude is the global leader in automotive training in high schools and colleges. ElekTude's cloud based e learning platform allows our instructors access to interactive and engaging foundational lessons, gamified formative and summative assessments, teaching resources, tools to build their own curriculum, analytical tools to identify learners' needs and coursework in multiple languages. Moreover, their proprietary trainers seamlessly integrate with the curriculum and provide students with a clear understanding of all the major systems in a car. At the heart of the program is the principle of discovery learning, which is how younger generations have become so adept in mastering today's technology. Again, based on the robust response generated to date in the form of leads, applications and starts, we are off to an excellent start with Eastpoint and the early results have increased our confidence in our new campus strategy. Speaker 200:07:54Our future Nashville and Levittown campuses are scheduled to open during the first half of twenty twenty five. As a reminder, both campuses are totally new from the ground up and replace existing operations in those markets and include additional programs at both campuses. Our 4th new campus in Houston is meeting its construction and build out schedule, but local regulatory timelines are causing our startup of this campus to be pushed out. We now see starting our 1st class in Houston during the Q4 of 2025. A 5th new campus is in the initial stages of development and our plan is to announce its location by our Q3 results conference call. Speaker 200:08:32This campus would open in 2026. In addition to the new campuses, replicating and expanding successful programs at our existing campuses remains a key growth strategy. Currently, we have related initiatives which Brian will provide more detail on. However, we continue to expect that each of these programs will generate approximately $1,000,000 of profitability within 3 years of opening, if not sooner. Our focus on offering innovative efficient student curriculums is enabling a growing number of graduates to enter rewarding in demand careers. Speaker 200:09:06This focus is also attracting additional corporate partners and broadening our relationship with existing partners. Our corporate partnership development activity remained quite robust during the Q2 and we expanded our relationship with Peterbilt Corporation to our Denver campus after successfully starting up that partnership at the Nashville campus a year ago. On our last call, we reviewed the 5 year workforce development agreement signed with Container Maintenance Corporation. In June, we began the curriculum development for this program at CMC's Charleston, South Carolina facility. Over 5 years, the agreement is expected to generate approximately $6,000,000 in revenue to Lincoln. Speaker 200:09:45While our company has successfully executed workforce development programs for organizations in the past, the CMC agreement represents a new scale and level for Lincoln. Rather than bringing employees to one of our campuses, we are leveraging our curriculum and training resources to upscale CMC employees at its facilities. This approach is an emerging opportunity for Lincoln and one we believe that has the potential to become a significant contributor to our business. We expect to be able to announce additional contracts before year end. Meanwhile, we continue to have enormous opportunities with our campus focused growth strategies. Speaker 200:10:22Through the end of 20 26, we expect to layer on 3 greenfield campuses while relocating and expanding 2 others and have 10 program replications fully up and running. As each of these campuses and replications comes online, we consistently expand our opportunities to increase overall student starts. In addition, we remain focused on maintaining the solid organic start growth at existing programs. Our marketing programs continue to generate a high return on investment as leads continue to increase at a strong double digit level. Additionally, our expansion of outreach efforts in the states of Connecticut and Maryland in which we joined forces with employers, government agencies, unions and community colleges to increase awareness of the opportunities available through skilled trades careers has been a resounding success. Speaker 200:11:12In the case of Maryland, we've been engaged to coordinate a similar program next year with increased funding from the state. As you can see, we are achieving strong growth in revenues and profitability and remain on track to achieve our long term goals of $550,000,000 of revenue $90,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA in 2027. Our opportunities have never been better. From 1980 until 2020, our country pushed the need to go to a 4 year school no matter the cost or the outcome. During this time, the value of career education was pushed to the side despite the growing need for more highly trained middle skilled workers. Speaker 200:11:49The discussion around the skills gap grew during the 1st 2 decades of the 21st century as employers began to struggle to find technicians, electricians, welders and healthcare workers. Then COVID hit and the shortage of middle skills workers became abundantly clear to everyone, which is why for the most part, our students remained employed during the pandemic since we needed food and medical supplies to be delivered, which requires trucks and vans to remain operational. Electricians and HVAC technicians were needed to keep our homes, hospitals, supermarkets and other facilities up and running. Our healthcare system was stretched almost the breaking point as the demand for nurses and healthcare workers skyrocketed. In short, Lincoln Tech trains the essential workers that allow us to live our lives in the manner to which we are accustomed. Speaker 200:12:36We see the need for what we are doing we see the need for what we do growing despite the economic environment. There are unrefutable changes happening that are driving increased need for our students. For example, our population is aging and the need for healthcare and healthcare workers will only grow. Society's demand for the Internet, AI, connectivity and communication will only grow as will demand for electricians, HVAC techs and other workers to maintain server farms, install networks and rebuild our power grid. Demand for cleaner energy will continue to increase whether mandated by government or by citizens who see an opportunity to make a positive change for society. Speaker 200:13:17On this last point, I want to highlight a partnership that we have with Fujitsu, a world leader in HVAC systems and in particular split unit systems utilizing inverter technology. These new systems are extremely efficient and can now be used in colder climates to very cost effectively heat and cool homes and offices. Across the country, we are seeing mandates proposed that are discouraging installing heating and cooling systems that emit greenhouse gases and switch to mini split systems. Our partnership with Fujitsu will help ensure that our students are acquiring the skills that can be used today and into the future. Part of our very successful company is a skilled and experienced Board of Directors. Speaker 200:14:01At Lincoln, we have consistently excelled at attracting excellent Board members and recently continued this tradition with the appointments of Marketing Executive, Marta Newhart and former Treasurer of the United States, Anna Cabral. Marta is a highly recognized marketing expert and her professional experience will help broaden our Board's perspective and enhance our ability to achieve our long term strategy. Hannah's exemplary background in public service will be enormous asset to our organization and diverse community of students. Her work in government, building coalitions from diverse points of view will be a great benefit to Lincoln as we navigate through the highly regulated environment in which we operate. In summary, we are on our way to achieving our full year guidance and are well positioned for growth in 2025 and beyond. Speaker 200:14:50We are transforming our company into an exceptional provider of educational services that meets the needs of America's corporations as well as America's workforce. Finally, I'd like to note, I'll be in Chicago on August 28 for the annual Midwest Ideas Conference, as well as partaking in Barrington's Virtual Fall Investment Conference on September 12 to educate investors about the enhanced valuation potential offered through our shares. Now I'll turn the call over to Brian Myers, so he can review some of our recent financial highlights and guidance. Brian? Speaker 300:15:24Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everybody, and thank you for joining our Q2 2024 earnings call. This morning, I'm pleased to share our financial results along with some key operational highlights. Starting with the quarter's financial performance. Total revenue was nearly $103,000,000 representing an increase of about $14,000,000 or 16%, mainly driven by our robust start growth over the last 7 consecutive quarters. Speaker 300:15:52During the Q2, student starts grew by 12.3%. This marks the 3rd consecutive quarter of double digit growth in both revenue and starts. As a result, we had approximately 1500 more students as of June 30, 2024 compared to prior year, propelling revenue growth for the second half and beyond. As Scott mentioned, the new East Point campus is performing exceptionally well, exceeding enrollment goals and contributing to the company's top line. While the East Point campus contributed to our robust stock growth, we also continued to achieve solid organic stock growth from existing campuses. Speaker 300:16:30Excluding the new Eastpoint campus, we grew our organic campus revenue by $13,000,000 with the incremental revenue contributing an operating margin of over 30%. Now turning to the expenses for the quarter, which as a reminder for comparability purposes exclude one, expenses of our new Eastpoint campus during its opening period 2, pre opening costs associated with the new and relocating campuses 3, other non recurring expenses and 4, the transitional segment in 2023. Further details on these items are available in the non GAAP disclosures of our Q2 earnings release. Total operating expenses were close to $99,000,000 which is reflective of our growing population and in line with expectations. Education service and facility expenses as a percentage of revenue was down to 42% from 44.4 percent in the prior year. Speaker 300:17:29The majority of the decrease relates to instructional expenses, which increased over prior year due to costs associated with our larger student base, but decreased as a percentage of revenue as we begin to experience efficiencies and benefits from our higher population and our hard grid learning model. Adjusted EBITDA was $6,200,000 for the 2nd quarter compared to $2,400,000 in the prior year, representing more than 150% increase. We had an income tax benefit for the quarter of approximately $500,000 including a discrete item benefit associated with stock vesting. For the second half of the year, we expect our effective tax rate to be approximately 30%. Turning to the balance sheet. Speaker 300:18:13Our balance sheet remains robust with total liquidity exceeding $100,000,000 cash and cash equivalents of $67,000,000 no debt and working capital of around $50,000,000 Our CapEx for the 3 months was approximately $10,000,000 relating to multiple exciting projects, which will drive growth next year and beyond. 1st, we continue to manage the build out of 10 additional programs, which are either a program replication at an additional campus or an expansion of an existing campus. Based on the construction patient approvals, we expect 6 programs to be rolled out by year end the remaining to be launched in the first half of twenty twenty five. 2nd, we are working towards the opening of 3 new steady to the art facilities in 2025, comprised of 2 campus relocations and one brand new location. We are seeing some delays in the timing of our capital spending, which will shift about $20,000,000 to 2025,000,000 leading us to reduce our CapEx guidance for the year. Speaker 300:19:15However, we were slightly ahead of schedule in 2 of the 3 projects. Starting with the Nashville and Levittown relocations, both projects continues to make great progress and now are expected to be completed in the first half of twenty twenty five. The new Houston campus build out has experienced some delays driving a majority of the CapEx shift into 2025. As a result, we now anticipate the campus to open towards the end of 2025. Looking ahead to the remainder of 2024, based on these project statuses, we are reducing full year our full year CapEx guidance of $45,000,000 to $55,000,000 Our second quarter operating financial results as well as the outlook for the remainder of the year leads us to raise our outlook for revenue and increase the low end range of adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income and student starts. Speaker 300:20:08The outlook for guidance has been updated to revenue ranging $423,000,000 to $430,000,000 adjusted EBITDA in the range of $39,000,000 to $42,000,000 dollars adjusted net income ranging between $14,000,000 $17,000,000 and student starts growth of 9% to 12%. As a reminder, our full year financial guidance for adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net income excludes the impact of Eastpointe campus preopening costs related to new and relocated campuses, program expansions and net non cash stock based compensation. Also in terms of depreciation and amortization, we expect a slight increase in the second half of the year, resulting in approximately $7,500,000 of expense recorded fairly even over each quarter. Lastly, interest expense is anticipated to be near $500,000 in the second half, evenly dividing Q3 and Q4. In conclusion, we are very pleased with our performance in 2024. Speaker 300:21:12We have a solid growth plans and work to continue to explore new opportunities to expand and drive efficiencies. As we highlighted in our Q2 investor presentation, under the strategic growth slide that we posted to our website later today, our long term vision and goal is to generate revenue of approximately 550,000,000 dollars and adjusted EBITDA of about $90,000,000 in 2027. Our team is working diligently together and we believe we are well positioned to achieve this target. We sincerely appreciate the entire Lincoln team, especially our faculty for making a difference each day and changing our students' lives. Now I'll turn the call back over to the operator for any questions. Speaker 300:21:53Operator? Operator00:21:55Thank you. And our first question comes from Alex Paris with Barrington Research. Your line is now open. Speaker 400:22:17Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I want to congratulate you on the beaten raise. Speaker 200:22:23Thanks, Alex. Appreciate that. We're excited by it as well. Speaker 400:22:28Couple of quick questions. Both you, Scott and Brian said at the end of the call that your targets for 2027 are 5.5090 for revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Is that a rounding thing? Are you increasing it? Because I think you said at Investor Day 5.4088. Speaker 300:22:50Right. It was actually increased slightly because the start of that strategic growth plan starts with the mid range of our guidance. So as we increase that, it increases 2027 as well. Speaker 200:23:04Yes. So we did make an adjustment up since the investor meeting. Speaker 400:23:11First, I mean, San said previously, I don't recall? Speaker 300:23:17No, I think this is the first time and it will be out on our website later today. Speaker 400:23:23Great. Well, congratulations on that. Here are my two questions. I wanted to focus on starts. Starts were up more than we had expected. Speaker 400:23:34We expected 4,600 starts. You came in closer to 5,000 starts up 12%. What do you attribute that to? I'm assuming the increase in marketing. And then has that momentum continued into the Q3? Speaker 400:23:52What's your experience in July August? Speaker 200:23:55Sure. Well, definitely, we achieved greater success than we were thinking. However, to support that, we are seeing continued success moving forward. There definitely is increased demand at a double digit level for our programs kind of across the board. And it really comes down to a lot of execution to achieve those as well as just timing of when some of the starts take place within the quarter. Speaker 200:24:22But the basic prem or the basic fact is we see strong demand continuing. That's why we raised our guidance. The midpoint of our guidance is 10%, 11%, I guess, closer to 11% and that's where we anticipate will come out for the year. Speaker 400:24:42And above and beyond the renaissance in skilled trades, the appeal of these blue collar jobs that can't be outsourced or replaced by AI. You've increased marketing year over year. I think you said in the press release it was up $2,000,000 year over year? Speaker 200:25:02Yes. Yes. So there is enhanced I'm sorry, Alex, you didn't finish. Speaker 400:25:08I was just going to say and has that had any impact on the cost per lead? No cost per Speaker 200:25:13start, basically. Yes, cost per start. The good news is we follow that very closely and the cost per start is relatively flat, might be up a percentage or 2, but nothing significant and it kind of changes quarter by quarter. Again, it's kind of just timing of when we spend the money and when the students start. I think at the end of the day though, there is this increased demand. Speaker 200:25:34Some people though think that people just naturally come to you just because people talk about it. We still have to be out there in front of people. But as long as we continue to maintain our cost per start, which we have over the last 5 years, we're going to continue to make those investments and drive greater growth. Speaker 400:25:50Makes sense. And here's my last one, I know we're limited to 2. By program, population by program, starts by program. The overall starts number of up 12% was really driven by the transportation and skilled trade side of the business up 21%. Healthcare and other professions were down 6% in the quarter. Speaker 400:26:13What do you would and it was up 9% in the Q1, so definitely a decline in the Q2. What do you attribute that to? Speaker 200:26:21A lot of it again is timing of when starts occur. In certain times, we can have 2 nursing starts in the quarter, sometimes only 1. So in a couple of the campuses are switching of when those starts were taking place year over year. At the end of the day, I'm still expecting growth in the healthcare sector for the full year. I'm not worried about growing that area. Speaker 300:26:46Our biggest decline was in LPN and was due to the timing of the starts. Speaker 400:26:51Got you. Do you still though think that auto and skilled trades will increase at a greater rate than healthcare and other professions for the full year? Speaker 200:27:01Yes, simply because that's where we're replicating our programs as of now. We have future opportunity we believe to replicate the healthcare programs, But right now, we're focused on the skilled trades and auto programs. So the answer is definitely yes. Speaker 400:27:16Makes sense guys. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:27:19Thanks, Alex. Thanks, Alex. Operator00:27:21And the next question comes from Steven Frankel with Rosenblatt Securities. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:27:29Good morning. Alex stole my thunder, but maybe we're did dig into healthcare Speaker 600:27:35a little bit more. Speaker 500:27:39What's the size of the funnel there relative to the prospect funnel on the skilled trade side? Is there still a very good funnel there? Or are you finding that people are less interested in this area post COVID? I know there's plenty of job openings, but what's the interest level like? Speaker 200:28:03Yes. Interest still remains strong in healthcare. It's definitely growing. It's up over last year. As I said, I'm very comfortable that our full year healthcare numbers will be meaningfully up. Speaker 200:28:15Again, our skilled trades in auto are going to be up more because that is where we're having more replications and expansions take place. But overall demand is strong across the board. Not worried frankly about any demand indicators shifting negatively or maybe it will shift more positively, but they're definitely robust, I'd say, Stephen, across the board for us. Speaker 500:28:40I appreciate the update on the cash pay programs in skilled trades and auto. Are there any prospects for replicating that kind of success on the healthcare side? Speaker 200:28:54Absolutely. And the healthcare side of the house is an area that we're putting increased focus on. We recently hired a new individual, a VP of Healthcare, frankly, to help us drive that business going forward. So I would anticipate certainly as we get into 2025 sharing more of what those new opportunities will be for us. Speaker 500:29:19Great. Thank you. Operator00:29:24And our next question comes from Eric Martinuzzi with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Eric, your line is now open. And the next question comes from Raj Sharma with B. Riley. Operator00:29:57Your line is now open. Speaker 600:30:01Yes. Thank you. Good morning and thanks for taking my question. I wanted to understand the starts color a little bit better. So if I heard it correctly, the healthcare starts were down 6% and that's largely explainable from timing. Speaker 600:30:20Is that right? Yes. In my follow on right. My follow on question on is the ex of Atlanta, the Eastpoint Georgia campus, what was the start to growth rate? And was Atlanta almost all transportation, right? Speaker 200:30:41Well, the land is definitely all transportation skilled trades. Again, that's automotive, electrical, HVAC and welding. And the growth without it was about 5.5%. There's a slide in our investor up on the website that shows you that. So we had good solid growth without that new campus. Speaker 600:31:03Right. And what are the what is the enrollment you're expecting at the Eastpointe campus? Speaker 200:31:12Well, we modeled out that. I'll just tell you what we modeled the campus at getting to enrollment around 700 to 7 50 students. At the end of this year, we originally thought there might be 300 students and we're exceeding that. Speaker 600:31:34Right. And that makes sense. And the health care starts you expect for the year to be positive growth, any sort of target on that? Speaker 200:31:50I can't. To be honest with you, I haven't looked at it in that way. All I know is that there is positive growth. I know Brian, if you have any more information. Speaker 300:31:57Yes. We're flat for the 6 months and we're expecting the second half to be positive. And again, for our 2 big programs there is MA, which was up for this quarter, the second quarter over 30%. As Scott described, LPN was down, but that was all due to the number of starts we have because it fluctuates from quarter to quarter there. So hopefully that'll catch up in Q3. Speaker 300:32:19So we are anticipating to be positive. I don't have the number there. Speaker 600:32:24Got it. Well, that's very helpful. And just my last question on Lincoln 10.0, I see that you have covered 65%, you said, if I heard that correctly, 65% of the students would be under the Lincoln 10.0. And I understand that there are cost efficiencies to be seen. Are there cost efficiencies to be seen? Speaker 600:32:46And where would you see them in the metrics next year versus this year? That would be great, some color on that. Speaker 200:32:54Yes. You would see them in the educational line because of the increased efficiency that we'll have with faculty. We're starting to see it now. But to your point, we'll definitely see more of it in 2025 as we see the benefits of blended learning coming to fruition. It does provide some better student to teacher ratios and better utilization of the classrooms, which all adds to the efficiency. Speaker 200:33:20But it's basically in the instructional line that you'll see the savings. Speaker 500:33:24Got it. Speaker 600:33:25Thank you for taking my questions. Again, congratulations on solid results. Speaker 200:33:31Thanks, Raj. Thanks, Operator00:33:39The next question comes from Eric Martinuzzi with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is open. Speaker 700:33:47Okay. We'll try this again. Can you hear me? Speaker 200:33:50We can hear you, Eric. Glad to hear you. Speaker 700:33:52Okay. I promise I was not on mute. I'm not sure what happened, but let's dive in here. So the 2027 plan, is that based on the existing campus footprint that we have as well as that new location that's planned for 2026? Or is there build out beyond the 2026 campus location that's Speaker 300:34:16No, it's still the same thing we talked about on the Investor Day. So it's the 2 relocating campuses and one campus the new Atlantic campus. So it's just those campuses, anything additional will be additive to that and the new programs that we discussed. Speaker 700:34:33And that and so here Speaker 600:34:37all is Speaker 300:34:38Yes, it includes, I'm sorry, Houston as well. I'm sorry, the Atlantic campus, Houston and the 2 relocating, but not the one that Scott described that we'll be announcing shortly. Speaker 200:34:48Yes. So just to be clear, everything we've announced to date, except for the new one that we anticipate we'll be announcing in the next quarter, it drives us to those results. Speaker 700:35:00Got you. And then a follow-up on that. Houston, what specifically is the regulatory or the barrier to roll out there? Why do we have to kick the can on Houston? Speaker 200:35:12Building permits, everyone thinks of Houston, I mean Texas is being very open and free with a lot of things, but for whatever reason, took us longer to get some building permits approved. Speaker 700:35:24Okay. And you said, so new students by the end of 2025, is that Q4 'twenty five, Q3 or still TBD? Speaker 200:35:35Yes. At some point within the Q4 of 2025, we'll have our first starts at that campus. Speaker 700:35:42Got it. Thanks for taking my question. Speaker 200:35:46No problem. Glad you were able to connect with us. Operator00:36:01Okay. I show no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Scott for closing remarks. Speaker 200:36:10Thanks, operator. And we just want to thank everyone for joining our call. As you can see, Lincoln has a lot of positive momentum and we really see that continuing into next year and I believe even the year after. There's so much that's happening that we serve and the need for what we do, we see increasing given the demand we hear from employers and given the trends we are seeing in society waking up to the fact that there are other opportunities for people to start their careers in a shorter, faster, more economical way. And that's certainly what we're all about at Lincoln Tech. Speaker 200:36:44We like that as we say, we help students put their potential to work and we look forward to doing that with more and more students. We look forward to updating you at our next earnings call and we hope you all have a wonderful day. Thank you. Operator00:36:57This does conclude today's conference call. Thank you forRead morePowered by